May 9, 2026 • 41 mins
Staging homes has been a popular way to market your property for years.
It's not your home as you have lived in it God Forbid but it gives potential buyers an idea of what their future home could look like if it were intentionally designed and hardly lived in.
We know our home likely won't look a whole lot like that once we move ourselves in - but there's a rising trend of digitally altered property photos that are harder to see through.
What was once just higher contrast and saturation, or greener grass, could be a slippery slope to changes that would cost an arm and a leg to make a reality.
Overseas, a few agents have even gone as far as knocking out a wall or installing a deck digitally to show the potential of a property that may not have a lot to offer otherwise.
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you to on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Now
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we're going to talk about broadly speaking, a few things
to do with AI, but staging homes as well. It
looks staging homes of course, it's a popular way to
market your property, and it's often it's not presented as
your home as you have lived in it, god forbid.
But you know, you stage your home because it'll give
potential bars an idea of what their future home could
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look like if it were particularly design one particular way,
or maybe if it's you know, a house says it's
hardly been lived in because they always look brand new,
don't they, even if they're not that new. So you
know that your home won't look necessarily a whole lot
like that once you move yourselves in. But there is
a rising trend of using a bit of AI or
(01:58):
AIS gets the blame for everything, just a bit of
photoshop to make things look you know, maybe you've polished
up a dent in a wall or a scratch, or
you've maybe you've given the walls a liqu of paint,
or you've just provided a nice you've just done a
nice little highlight highlight everything sort of package. But AI
is playing a role, so you know once was what
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once was just higher contrast and saturation. It might have
moved to greener grass, or perhaps actually grass where there
is none, or maybe they might even put in some
chambers changes which you know would cost an arm and
leg if you want to do that in reality. So
apparently overseas some agents have even gone so far as
(02:43):
to knocking out a wall or installing a deck digitally
to show the potential of a property that might not
have a lot to offer otherwise. Now, I think there
is a bit of a catch to this because if
you're drawn to a properties photos and think, wow, this
is the home of our dreams, and you turn up
and you see the dog that's there, you go, oh,
that's not what it looks like in the photos. So
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but what is the morality? Look, that's a loaded question,
isn't it. But what do you think the ethics are
as to how much you can change what a house
looks like? And how much should you or do you
in fact ever trust the photos? Have you ever do
you know anyone who's purchased a property sight unseen? I
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would say that if you purchased a property unseen based
on the photos, then that's a very bad move. But
if you've based it on the fact you don't care
what the house is, it's just the land, then possibly
you could do that. Anyway, I want your thoughts on
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nine two and joining us to discuss these potentially thorny
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ethical issues. He is managing director at AII. I can't
mean list all them. He's at Harcourts anyway, and his
name is Martin Cooper. Martin, how are you good?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Good afternoon. I'm here in person. Everything I say I
can't speak anymore without referring to AI. So it maybe
delay as we have this global dependency on AI for everything.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It's a great tool, isn't it. But I actually was
wondering if, just broadly speaking, without getting into all the photos,
you know, the real estate blurbs and all that sort
of thing, how how important to roll does a blurb
play in the property versus photos? So, because I would
imagine if I was a real estate agent, I'd go, well,
(04:32):
I'd say to chat GPT, Look, i've got a property
I'm selling. It's based in this neighborhood. This is the
value it's got, this many bedrooms. It's got this and
this and this and this and this and this. It's
floss it up for me and it will probably do
quite a good job. Would not.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah, we will give you a really good guideline. But
you know, when I talk to people said why did
you buy that house, They'll say, oh, you know, it
was a feeling it was at that house. That home
that we purchase just felt right. But when you are
selling a property, I think it's crucial that you do
some storytelling about what the current owners love about the
property rather than just a list of what's there.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Storytelling rather than storytelling. There's two different types of storytelling,
because there's a storytelling when you're being naughty, and then
there's a storytelling when you are drawing people into a story.
So you mean that one not the other one.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Not telling stories about your past or you know, telling
on someone. It's actually why would you live here? In
a simple thing. You can be running an open home
and you can say, oh, the owners just love They
feed the tooyes every year and they just love it
out on the deck. You know you're not saying, look
there's a big deck and look at the indoor outdoor
flow a lot of people just state the obvious and
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their add copy. You want to be telling a bit
more of a story about why it would be a
cool place to live in.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Of course, if you're saying that the previous owners the
current owners love to feed the toys and in fact
there are no toyes, storytelling of a different kind.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah that's true. But hey, you're not going to get
too far on telling lies or you know, you've got
to be You've got to be authentic with what you're
saying for sure.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well that's because of of course, long term as an agent,
your vested interest is as the agent especially, is to
give everyone a positive experience, because that's how you'd get
business back and repeat business and you have a long
term career.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Oh, I think the hard courts have an old school
client for life. And I think you know one of
the things I love about real estate. Years ago we
got invited to go to Disney Disneyland as real estate people. Yes,
and it was a hard courts. I thought I was
asked to pay for managers to go to Disney. Now
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that this is ridiculous. It's not my idea. Why would
I pay then go to Disneyland? But what we were
asked to do. We went to the Disney Academy where
they trained all the people who worked in the Disney
theme parks. And the concept of all the staff working
at Disney was when people leaving the theme park, they
wanted to have a desire to return to have such
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a great family experience and a desire to recommend to
their friend, family, colleagues. And I've got some Disney agents
because they just they have the client that will refer
people in because they had a great experience and they
will return because of the experience. Now, an agent who's
in it for a short term just burn the client,
do a deal, then try and find a new client.
It's a hard hard to build a sustainable creer over
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a long term on that basis.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Okay, so what is I mean? We are in a
future with AI what do you? What do you? Okay,
let's start nice and easy, is it okay? Or something
where I mean, how far can you would people? I'm
not talking about your company, I was just thinking generally,
but I mean, have you ever seen images of a
house where you go, oh, they've flossied that up a
(07:49):
bit too much with the photoshop, or they've stuck the
grass and or for instance, you might have a patch
of patch or ground we've stuck a flower bed in
there where there is none. Is it okay to green
the grass because grass in summer can go but brown
if you haven't watered it and it's going to be
green in winter. I mean, are their rules to these things?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Well? Were we finding? Buyers are generally fine with AI
improving photos, you know, brightening up the sky or.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh they do that. They get an internal photo where
everything's bright outside. I look at it and go all
the photoshop, the windows, the view outside.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, but generally buyers are happy with that better lighting,
you know, putting some virtual staging into a property of
its empty green of lawns, taking rubbish bins out of
a picture so it looks better cosmetic.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Okay, I'm going to write a list here. I think
taking the rubbish bins out is okay, although would have
been preferable that you'd remove them. You might, But taking
vegans out, we'll give that a tick. Greening the grass
no problem. Yeah, you can green the grass, but.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Buyers aren't worried about that. I mean, it could be
dry summer, but it's just enhancing the property. What what if.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You've replaced cockuoo, grass and all that sort of stuff
which is difficult to mow and you get but stripped
out by the moa with a nice sort of Karras Brook.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, look, I don't Buyers are not fine with AI
changing the reality of the property, so making a living
room look bigger, or making a view look closer, but
just just photo shopping, tidying up the image so the
sun looks like it's shining if your photography is on
a rainy day. People are accepting of that. But there
is a shift in the industry where and if you're well,
(09:31):
I don't call it doom scrolling. I'm on my phone
scrolling through Instagram all the time. Find it quite a
happy place myself. I get a bit annoyed it's a
doom scroller. But if you do get I've.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Got lots of puppies, you know, you got that rolling
over on your Instagram, whether.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Getting a lot of stuff on safaris, you know, I
was talking about that, you know, going into Africa and
looking on those animal safaris. But half the time I
don't know what's real or not. So that's a frustrating
thing as a consumer of content.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Actually funny enough, you should say that I do have
that with Instagram. There's a certain voice that's a generic
AI voice of this, and as soon as I hear it,
I'm just like, I'm not interested, and I almost wish
I could shout at the person who could produce that video. Yeah,
bugger off.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, I think it'd be great if there's a water
mark on real estate. You know, it just had an
AI water mark, so it would be a statutory thing
that if you are putting images up that have been enhanced,
you have to put a little AI water mark on it.
So you, as a consumer, you look at the photograph
and you know in the bottom right hand corner theres or.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Just a note digitally enhanced in the footnote digitally.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Do I think that would be a good move forward?
So yeah, Well.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Here's one you mentioned digitally staging. So you've got an
empty room and you shove a bed in there. That
is instantly problematic for me because it gives no idea
of dimensions. You might have a room that's tiny and
somebody's managed to make it look like a double bead
fit in there quite nicely, which means there's no substitute
for going and visiting a property, is there.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Oh, look, if you are making something look bigger than
it is and the consumer, the customer comes and has
a look, they're going to.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Trust gets eroded pretty quickly.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, they especially if they're driving all the way out,
look at the property, have a look. They get there
thinking oh, that's good, it's got the space we want.
But their photos haven't represented what the properties like. They
look at the property and so this isn't what we
came all this way to look for. And then they
look at the agent and think, what do you You're
misrepresenting it. It doesn't help.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Actually, that's an interesting point because if I'm that sort
of customer that if I did have a bad experience
with a particular agent, I'd be like, I'd be ruling
out all their listings. I just if I went out
and I found that it was nonsense, I'd just be like, well,
I'm not going to look at anything they're offering because
I'm not going to waste my time. Again.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Well, if it doesn't match reality, when you get there
straight away, you're going to think, well, the agent's got
me here, they've tricked me, and it's not helpful. You
don't want to be tricked into buying a property.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Could you do I mean, okay, if it was clearly labeled,
could you have images where you've reimagined something and saying, look,
this is the potential for this property. That's a tricky
one because one photo rolls into another, isn't it? That
was funny. The other week we had a Property of
the Week where part of it to me was fascinating
because they had the order of the photos, didn't present
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the best view of the house first, and had endless
photos of the house from a few degrees different angle
that the entrance way, and I thought, God, there's five
photos the same for start. And then the next photo
was of the septic tanks and it was showing off
the retaining wall and stuff. And I just remember going
because there is an art to staging a home, isn't there?
I mean even just the number of photos. Do you
(12:50):
have a policy on you know, how many photos you'd
put up of a home before you're going hang on,
you're saturating the brain there.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Oh yeah, some large, expensive properties with a lot of outbuildings,
you can get forty eight or four photographs plus a video,
plus floor plans, but about twenty four photos is a
good number to scroll through and get an idea of
a standard sized property.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Because the other thing, actually, how do you how generally
do people take photos? There would have I imagine there
would have been a time when you had a professional
photographer come in these days with the videos that would
be imagined by somebody else.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
All of our listings would be professionally photographed. Absolutely is
you're setting You are like trying to set the trap,
you know. So if we're trying to hunt, if you're
trying to hunt for mice, yeah, put some good cheese
in it. So you want it to look good. And
I'll tell you what property staging is a big thing.
I really think some people would look at the home
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beautifully staged, beautiful and tidy. Everything looks fantastic, and then
when they settle on that home, everything's out. They come
into the empty house and think, oh my god, this
doesn't look like what we purchased too late. It's a
trap here. But hey, you look at the visual online
stuff now it If you present your property poorly in
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a competitive market, you're not going to get as many
people through as many inspections. You've got to play the game.
You've got it just like if you took your car.
If every car in the car yard was not groomed,
oh you're not beautifully presented, they're not going to have
a good lineup of sales. So you've got to make
your house look beautiful.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
What does it? Should everyone stage their house or is
it or are there? Is it just a case that
if somebody has exceptional taste in decore where you say,
you're probably all right. Interestingly, the property of the week
this week, I'm going to get your take on it.
I might actually share the address of it well in
advance because it's part of this conversation. We can talk
about it later on. But it's interesting because most of
(14:53):
the home, in fact, I think all of their furniture
looks pretty good, except there's a few sort of antique
sort of bits which are a bit incongruous and you
almost think, I wonder if there was a conversation with
the age and about any might want to move that
one out. But and how flash does your house need
to be before you don't need to stage it.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I think to be competitive you should have it looking
at its absolute best. And I have some of my
team members they'll have a seller spending thirty or forty
thousand dollars on a refresh of their property, prying to
go this is an Auckland based property.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Going to refresh, not just staging it.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah yeah, but like it may be this needs doing,
that needs doing, but they've had enough experience that they
can actually help a seller make their home look beautiful
and get the money back plus because it looks so good.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Well, funny enough, funny you should say that, because that's
one of the questions I had for you was about
the investments you make. You know, what sort of investment
should you or do you need to make? And what
are the ways of spending money on presenting and improving
your property so you get the price you want that
actually pay for themselves and what doesn't. And the actually
(16:10):
part of the reason we're asking this was because by accident,
we ended up having quite a busy conversation when somebody
simply texted and going with selling our house and I
want to add solar to make it more sellable. And
we had had a very detail, quite a big conversation
with our callers and texts about whether it's worth it
or not. And I think it boiled down to that
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that probably wasn't necessarily going to get the money back
in the way that it might have been, but it
led us to think, we should discuss this with you
about what you can spend money on where you'll get
the money back. And you'd say a refresh That sounds
to me like paint, maybe carpets and staging.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, it could be. Could it be as far as
a bathroom makeover or a deck replaced.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Or well that's getting priced. As soon as you say bathrooms,
it's like, ah.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, yeah, But look, each home is unique, and that's
the thing you've got to go through. I had a
found it quite you had to have the trust of
the person when you were listing their property for sale,
but with their permission. One of my favorite tasks was
to get a clipboard I felt quite official and go
around and say, right, I'm going to go round and
have a thorough inspection and look at your home through buyers' eyes,
(17:25):
and I'm going to give you a list of things
that I think will get you a better outcome.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Because God to go through my house.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Like when you're running an open home, if the spouting
is a bit off on the property, the buyer generally
works out roughly what it would cost to fix it
and doubles the price and expects to get that off
the price.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So if you've got if you've got something that obviously
needs replacing, then you should you need to do that now.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, in my opinion, have everything so beautifully presented that
the people trying to knock your price down can't fault
the property.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
You see. Okay, here's just me shooting from the hip.
I think that if you've got something that's essential to
the function of the house to someone's enjoyment of it,
like you know, leaky guttering and spouting and stuff, I
think that that makes sense. You've got to do that.
But for instance, if I look at the house and go, okay,
we could knock that knock that wall out and make
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it much more appealing, would I leave that to the
buyer to work out for themselves, Because you know what
I mean, there's a difference between utilitarian this is you
have to we're going to have to do this as
soon as we move in, versus we might want to
do this.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Oh yeah, look, every case is different. But all my
years as an agent, my favorite line was I loved
French doors, you know, the and the amount of homes
that the amount of homes I sold that I said,
imagine putting some French doors in there and opening it
out so you had indoor flow.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
So did they do it or you just used to
say that to.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
The now you're selling, what would create that? And then
you take them outside and say look at the view
you'd get imagined and looking back there with French doors.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
French doors.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But that was back like I was listing and selling
real estate. Now you might say by fault doors opening out,
but I just liked the bit of European style with French.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Funny. That sounds very nineteen eighties.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, yeah, selling houses for a long time.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I'd love to flash if this was a your whole
life had been a TV show, we'd go. Now we've
got a clip of Martin offering the French doors.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Hey, look this is the thing. The first house I
ever sold, probably before you were born, to my nineteen
eighty three, very kind of for thirty thirty four. Five
hundred dollars was the sale price of the house.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
So did you feel at that time that was a
lot of money?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, that was in Dunedin where I started selling real estates.
So do you know that you could buy a whole
four bedroom student flat for that price back to those days.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Not a bad investment. Apparently. Apparently that's the thing that's
very trendy at the moment, buying a bit of a
dump of a place and then renting it just to
ten students for the year and making a killing on
the returns. I think that's pushed the value of those
properties up, the Old Castle Street flats. But that's off
the topic. Yes, we want to know. Actually I've got
a really silly trivial thing on the staging of a home,
(20:29):
But we want your cause on this. Where do you
think money is well spent on staging or presenting your
home that'll actually get you'll get back in the purchase price?
And does it? Of course, everything's according to whatever the
property is. But I've got a fun question for you.
How many throw pillows and pillows is too many for
every bed? Because I tell you what, you look at
a stage home. I think they've got about twelve pillows
(20:52):
each at least, and maybe as too many, not enough.
Eight hundred ten eighty twenty seven Past four news talks
here'd b Martin Cooper is my guess we'll be back
in just to take this news talks here be this
is one roof radio show. We're talking about the money
that you can spend on getting you know, on improving
your property or getting ready for sale. What is money
well spent and staging at home, but also the role
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of AI as a buyer and as a seller. How
much would you tweak your photos to make it look
more presenting. Let's go to the calls. David, Hello, David,
Hang on a minute. We just need to make sure
something's on there, which it might not be. And David,
we can't hear David. I'll just oh there you are
(21:34):
you there?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, I've been here, I'm still here. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Where you go? Yeah, I'm enjoying the banter. Yeah, you know,
I always enjoy that. And I have sold a place
at one point that I needed to stage and we've
invested at that time. And it wasn't that long ago,
but it was probably ten years or something like that.
(22:00):
But we staged it and it cost us about three grand.
Now it'd be more now, but and and you can
stage it yourself, but my wife didn't want me to
do that, so we left. We left it, left it
to the professionals, and they did it great. They did
a great job, and it was theft for about five
(22:21):
or six weeks and then they took it away after
the thing it sold. But to me, that's almost like
artificial intelligence, because it's it's planting the seed of in
people's brains of you know, yeah, of course it's not.
It's nothing about it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
It's not like showing the home as you lived in it.
It's showing an ideal. What did it feel about?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Naughty?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Did it feel a bit naughty you doing that?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
No? I did not, because we've had it on the
market and it wasn't selling and it made a difference.
We got our product with the price that it sold
for a lot more after that, however, but we had
reasons to use the money, so you know, there's nothing
wrong with that. But what it wrang about was the
cushions thing, and that that struck a forward. I'm sick
(23:06):
of cushions. I think should be banned. And every man
who is listening to this would probably agree. You dislocate
your neck on all this crap and some of these bnbs.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeah, well, I've got Levin on my bed, but it's
not my bed though, I'm not the boss of it,
but my wife. And then I go into the bedroom David,
and I just get the cushions and throw them off
in the corner. And I'm told to place the cushions neatly,
(23:40):
and it drives me absolutely nuts. And then I also
have to chop them. Do you karate chop a cushion
so it has the right shape when you put it
back on the bed. There is intense amount of cushion protocol.
But yeah, yeah. And sometimes you look at the bed
staging in the real estate photos and they've got the blanket,
(24:03):
the weaved blank kid, and the cushions and there's no
room for anyone to actually sleep in the beard it's
so covered.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Actually, I'm just looking at the proper of the week
one right now? How on therese one two three, Oh,
they've had the karate chop. They've given them the one two, three, four, five, six,
seven eight, And that looks like they've gone light on
the cushions there. They could have gone with a few more.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah, eleven, you've got to have one old one right
at the front.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
We never do the karate chop.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Oh. If I don't do the karate chop, I get
a karate chop.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Actually, Actually, David, however, do you think that cushions help
with staging the home, because I mean, this one looks ridiculous.
I'm looking at what is the address of it so
people can look. Oh, I'm going to give you the
address of this one. It's twelve. It's a bit flash
because it's got two addresses. It's twelve and sixteen page
point in Melon's Bay. Twelve and sixteen page point in
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Melon's Bay. So how many look are you the decision
maker on these things in your house? David?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, you know the answer had the answers. You know,
there's no and it takes a lot of negotiation, and
it keeps coming up every motel we stay at because
I dislocated my neck basically for about two weeks at
one of the places, and the thing was like a
cube of concrete or most and it was way over
(25:27):
dementia was square. I mean, I mean, a cushion is
a cushion. It's a netrol fat used to be down,
didn't it. It used to be goose for this basically, oh yeah,
in the old days, and then it just comes down.
It's just a cushion. There's good enough I mean, you
know what it's like some places you've probably slept in
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where all your mind is just a kind of nice pillow.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You do realize that when you stay in a place,
you suppose you actually can take them off the bed,
can't you. You're not supposed to actually sleep with every
cushion that's been there when you first walk in.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
No, exactly, but unfortunately I tried to get to sleep
at the time, and it did the damage in the
first five minutes. And then I kicked it round and
there was a smaller place. There was nowhere to put
the damn thing. It looked like a pie said concrete.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Really yeah, okay, well anyway, but anyway, staging worked for you.
And did you have extra Did you have lots of
cushions in the staging?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
No, No, it was just and I put the odd
book of my own, you know, here and there just
anybody with a you know, you know, we've taken interest
in that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, you wanted them to know a bit about you. Yeah, hey,
thanks for sharing that with us, David. That is quite funny. Actually,
now that I appreciate you call. Now that Davis has
mentioned and you've mentioned the Karate chop on the cushions
the house that's on being staged at twenty twelve and
sixteen page point. I'm looking at the I'm looking at
the lounge and on the sofa there's one, two, three, four, five,
(27:00):
six seven, and they've all been karate chopped in the middle.
I've never noticed the karate chop and the chair at
both all three chairs that have got the karate chop.
On the bed, there's one bed that's got so many Oh,
there's another more karate chop. Cushions there everywhere the karate chop.
Once you see them, you can't unsee the karate chop.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Martin, No, it's part of the esthetic design of a
cushion is about a karate chop. It's just not the
right shape.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I had no IDEA Funny thing is the bed that
one of the bedrooms where it's got a bunch of cushions.
From one angle, it looks like the bed there's almost
nowhere to sleep. It's just cushion, cushion, cushion, cushion, cushion, cushion, cushion.
I know it's off the topic, but it's you know,
it's part of the investment you might make in staging house.
It seems that too many cushions still isn't enough.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
It's layers, it's texture. It gives a depth of color
and character to a home. But French doors and good lock.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Somebody has said to me here, I wish you could
have seen my home. Amazing. Yes, French doors, but designed
here in New Plymouth by myself and then had built
there were French Mediterranean stale style, all staged by me. Then,
so this is just someone endorsing. I'm not sure when
this man or woman would have had that done. But
(28:20):
French doors, they don't seem to be so much dajour
these days, do they.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
No, No, it's the bifold doors. It's opening out completely.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
And I was wondering if the new conversation around that
as people go. Imagine just putting shutters on the window there.
You could open them all right up, but then you
have privacy shutters. It's a shutter is a thing where
you can improve it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Well. There are another form of layering of texture and
the property, and it can particularly in suburban environments. You
can shut your windows off and you can adjust them
for privacy, but have the sunlight coming in, so they
are another addition to a stylish property without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Okay, here's one. In fact, as I say here's one,
the person who's texting says, here's one for you boys.
I staged my first home I was selling by placing
an inflatable mattress on four miter ten buckets. I then
put a flash looking duvet from an op shop a
top of that, and then hope, like, how no one
(29:15):
sat on it? Yeah that's the cats. But anyway, this
person said it worked. Yeah, I would discourage people from
that technique.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Possibly, No, there's no problem. All you're just letting people
know what it would look like as a bedroom rather
than just leaving it as an empty room.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But would you if you were having an open home,
you'd put a note on the bed saying please do
not sit on that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
We're honestly, people should not be trying that. They're not
buying the bed, they're buying the house. So and more
full lem if they jumped on it.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
But what if they just noticed their shoelace was undone
and just happened to pop themselves.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Oh okay, yeah, well we did have occupational safety, so
we might have to put a warning on that.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But Okay, we're going to dig into a bit more.
What you can you know, where the money is really
well spent in an order of priority. If you are
you know, look, you might not have the next ten
million dollar home. You might be selling it. You might
be entry level. So how much can you spend and
what should you do to make your property the one
that the first home buyers are going to go? I
(30:13):
think this is the this is the one for our dreams.
Eight hundred eighty ten and eighty text nine two nine
two And how many pillows is too many? That's my
flippant little question, but only enough. The first caller was
on that topic exactly. And do they need the karate
chop back in a moment. It's twenty to five This
News talks that be where with Martin Cooper from hard Courts,
and we're talking about the money that you can spend
(30:35):
on your home when you're getting ready to sell it,
that you will actually get back. It's worth it, And
I think the general consensus of the conversation Martin is
that unless you know, with the exception of people who
have exceptional interior design taste and presented homes, staging a
home is money well spent generally.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Absolutely, it just makes all the difference. I said earlier,
you're setting a trap, so have you want people to
come in? If people look at five or six properties
and this one just feels so good and it's got
a richness of texture and all everything looks beautifully presented,
it's just it's more enticing to say, oh, imagine we'd
(31:15):
be living here. How cool is this? And this staging
first started. I remember up at Clearmos Orchard there was
a row of homes built maybe twenty years ago, and
people have been living in like Glenfield and their old
secondhand home, you know, twenty twenty thirty years old, and
they say, come up and have a look. And the
homes were artwork, stage kids, tennis rackets and beautiful, immaculate condition,
(31:40):
beautifully staged. They'd come and have a look at the
new home. They'd look look at this, it looks so beautiful,
the colors, everything, and then they go back to their
old thirty year old home, have a look around, think
let's get out of here.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Actually I was actually curious to should I forgot to
ask their other caller, David, because sometimes you can actually
look at the way this home is staged and you go,
you know, having in that third third set of eyes,
and you go, I can't believe that we never thought
of doing this ourselves.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I'll tell you one thing. I used to have had
some great staging people. So someone's selling, you want them
to be motivated about selling, an enthusiastic You get the
home staged, decluttered, refreshed, gardens done.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
He decided to stay.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
And the owners are looking around. This isn't so bad
after all.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Actually do you have do you ever have people who
are looking at moving and then they realized they haven't
done enough with their home and they just pull it
and say, look, well, actually we've done thanks for the
inspiration for staging.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Well, I've had the circumstance where the seller has been
so impressed with the staging and the improvements to the
property that they have wanted more money for their property.
So and they deservedly they invested in it, but they
got more attached to it because they thought, why didn't
we do this for the last ten years and enjoy
(33:02):
living in it like like it is now.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
We're in our stage now actually, because you know, we've
got some we've got some stuff we have to finish
and it's amazing how long you can get used to
the fact you've still got bear jib in the hall
and the hallway sort of thing. And we realized, actually,
you know what, it's been something my wife's been talking
to me about that it's time to finish it. But
it is. I mean, it's all to do with financial
(33:24):
pressure and borrowing.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I know that every man woman, your home is your castle,
but you escape from life from stresses out there, you
should have it looking the best you can.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I'm going to do it because it's funny. I will
show you in the break the change we made to
our bathroom because for so while our kids were growing up,
we had a bathroom where there was a bathtub with
a wall and a curtain and it was moldy above
the It was a real dog of a bathroom. It
was horrible. And look, it was the place that we've
(33:56):
been renting, and we got you get used to it,
and then we finally went, we've got to do the bathroom.
We've got to do the bathroom. And we did the bathroom.
We got some great design advice and having but a
shower in your new bathroom with the tiles and stuff,
it's like a holiday. Every time you walk in there,
you're like.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Oh, zen, and that's where you start your day and
if it's covered in mold and mildew, and how the
hell can you sit your day starting that way?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Text says Judy says, your program's hilarious, surely well known.
It's well known. Blokes hate cushions. The karate chop aka
rabbity is very much a girl thing. We'll definitely be
listening next Saturday. Martin is a great real estate agent,
by the way, says, Oh meant to prefread this text.
Seed and snakes some compliments in their duty.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Thank you, Judy.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
And somebody says, I think there is exceptions to stage
and whereby thinks they're getting a bargain if it's in
poor condition, as they believe they can add value, especially
at the bottom of the market. What's your comment on that.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Oh, yeah, there's this interesting phenomenon of if something so
poorly presented, it goes into wow, this is so bad,
it's got potential, and it can create an environment where
people think I can get in fix this up and
it makes the money. So sometimes doing something different to
the rest when it's so bad. I worked with a
(35:25):
guy years ago, and his best attribute. He was positive
about everything. He could see potential in the property, so
he was almost he'd look like stage of property in
people's minds, you know, telling them look at the view.
The place was a wreck, but he'd say, look at
the view when you fix this up. Imagine he would
(35:47):
sell the vision, and nowadays it's not. Everyone's able to
sell the vision. Everything's visual in life, billboards, TV. So
what you need to do as a home seller is
let people see stage it, set it, make it look how.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Don't leave so much to the imagination people.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Everything's everything's visual nowadays media data coming at us. So
I mean, we used to have black and white TV
back in the day, one or two stations, but now
you've got a choice. So you need to see what
it looks like, how you can enjoy living in it.
So staging is really important to set the track.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Actually text supports that. It says, HI, there restaging. I
received a low offer. I had staging for six weeks,
took the staging. I took the staging out and a
couple oh, it says the opposite took the staging out
and a couple of weeks later received an offer of
thirty k more. Oh, I'd misread that text about to
say I put staging in and it got all this
extra money.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
But oh yeah, but look, it's just you only need
one buyer who falls in love with the property. And
I was selling my first property. I remember, I had
seventy eight buyers through it, and I was about to
throw it away and get rid of the my price expectation.
I was about to accept a low offer and leave money.
(37:06):
Would you believe in the need in my first home
I ever bought? But then by number because I was
counting them by number, seventy nine just fell in love
with it and paid me above what I'd hoped to
get for it. Yet my morale was gone because so
many people had said no to it. So in that
last year I.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Meant, there's a lot of interest in it, but there's
been a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
A lot of people rejecting it. I mean, you're married,
aren't you. Yes, I guarantee the first person you went
out didn't look. You probably asked seventy eight people to
get married.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Thank you. Close, close, close, close.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
But if you keep keep asking and keep going, something
good can happen.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Hey. Look, speaking of the staging. That one roof properly
of the week is next. It's twelve and sixteen page
point and we'll dig into it in just a moment.
This is news Talk sai'd be the one roof radio
show ten to five.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
The one roof property of the week on the weekend collective.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yes, and the one roof properly the week. Well, in
terms of location, it is pretty stunning and it is
a gorgeous property, as you will have heard beforehand, because
we presold this one just so you can go and
check out the staging. Twelve and sixteen page point, Melon's Bay,
Monaco City. It's four bedrooms, five bathrooms, five car garage.
The house okay, the house listened to the number at
(38:27):
six hundred and seventy five square meters. That's a biggin
land of six thousand square meters. Look it's got says
no estimate. Apparently the irv's ten million. And it is
quite a stunning And actually you know what I look
at now because of the you know when we had
bad weather events, you see cliffs give way. The property
looks as a reasonable distance, the house looks a reasonable distance
(38:49):
away from the cliff edge, which would be my first
thing I've had spare ten million, and it's generally been staged,
but I think there are some original pieces of furniture
in there as well. But they've certainly got a truckload
of cushions to go with. Martin, what do you think
of the property.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
The legacy property. It's stunning, the one hundred and eighty
degree views the sun. The serenity of this property is beautiful.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Have you watched the castle of course, straight to the pool,
the serenity an infinity pool, which infinity pool is still
a thing, by the way, are they sort of? Because
when they first came.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Out, you're just looking over that hierarchy golf, So you're
sitting in that living area looking well at space, looking
over the pool, the reflections. And i'd say more than
the ten mill mark, but the agent will probably give
you a guide on it's a deadline sale, so that's
just put your interest in and show what you're prepared
to pay, and it's all the negotiation. But that is
(39:48):
a stunning piece of real estate. And the bathroom's in
such good condition, the quality, the tiling, everything's ready to
move in and enjoy.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
And yeah, and the cushions have been karate chopped into
the rabbits here is it's funny has sort of been staged,
but a lot of it isn't. Because you can see
there's some heirloom type of it looks like inherited furniture.
There's some old score, and the bed is really in
the main bedroom is it sort of looks like a
(40:18):
bit of a it's got a heavy on the wood
woodwork side of things, so that's probably not staged. I
don't imagine, but it's obviously they've got pretty good taste.
It's a gorgeous property, isn't.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
It's six hundred and seventy five square meters of home.
It's a lot of home and six thousand square meters
of prime land with the views.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
So go and check it out. It's twelve and sixteen
page point Melon's Bay and Monoco City, so go and
check it out. And as I always love looking at
the outdoor living spaces as well, just imagining, you know,
your friends coming around for a barbecue. I don't know,
is that funny of the things we think about. Everyone's
got their own take on things. But anyway, hate Martin,
(40:57):
thanks so much. If people want to catch up with you,
they can just google Martin Cooper Harcourts, can't.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
They Yeah, very keen, I can come and help with
the cushions.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Excellent, he does great ramedy. As he said, good training allegedly. Anyway. Hey,
look we're back with the Parents Squad with our new
guest Stephanie Power.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
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you to on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Now
(01:14):
we're going to talk about broadly speaking, a few things
to do with AI, but staging homes as well. It
looks staging homes of course, it's a popular way to
market your property, and it's often it's not presented as
your home as you have lived in it, god forbid.
But you know, you stage your home because it'll give
potential bars an idea of what their future home could
(01:35):
look like if it were particularly design one particular way,
or maybe if it's you know, a house says it's
hardly been lived in because they always look brand new,
don't they, even if they're not that new. So you
know that your home won't look necessarily a whole lot
like that once you move yourselves in. But there is
a rising trend of using a bit of AI or
(01:58):
AIS gets the blame for everything, just a bit of
photoshop to make things look you know, maybe you've polished
up a dent in a wall or a scratch, or
you've maybe you've given the walls a liqu of paint,
or you've just provided a nice you've just done a
nice little highlight highlight everything sort of package. But AI
is playing a role, so you know once was what
(02:21):
once was just higher contrast and saturation. It might have
moved to greener grass, or perhaps actually grass where there
is none, or maybe they might even put in some
chambers changes which you know would cost an arm and
leg if you want to do that in reality. So
apparently overseas some agents have even gone so far as
(02:43):
to knocking out a wall or installing a deck digitally
to show the potential of a property that might not
have a lot to offer otherwise. Now, I think there
is a bit of a catch to this because if
you're drawn to a properties photos and think, wow, this
is the home of our dreams, and you turn up
and you see the dog that's there, you go, oh,
that's not what it looks like in the photos. So
(03:05):
but what is the morality? Look, that's a loaded question,
isn't it. But what do you think the ethics are
as to how much you can change what a house
looks like? And how much should you or do you
in fact ever trust the photos? Have you ever do
you know anyone who's purchased a property sight unseen? I
(03:25):
would say that if you purchased a property unseen based
on the photos, then that's a very bad move. But
if you've based it on the fact you don't care
what the house is, it's just the land, then possibly
you could do that. Anyway, I want your thoughts on
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty or text nine two
nine two and joining us to discuss these potentially thorny
(03:46):
ethical issues. He is managing director at AII. I can't
mean list all them. He's at Harcourts anyway, and his
name is Martin Cooper. Martin, how are you good?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Good afternoon. I'm here in person. Everything I say I
can't speak anymore without referring to AI. So it maybe
delay as we have this global dependency on AI for everything.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It's a great tool, isn't it. But I actually was
wondering if, just broadly speaking, without getting into all the photos,
you know, the real estate blurbs and all that sort
of thing, how how important to roll does a blurb
play in the property versus photos? So, because I would
imagine if I was a real estate agent, I'd go, well,
(04:32):
I'd say to chat GPT, Look, i've got a property
I'm selling. It's based in this neighborhood. This is the
value it's got, this many bedrooms. It's got this and
this and this and this and this and this. It's
floss it up for me and it will probably do
quite a good job. Would not.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yeah, we will give you a really good guideline. But
you know, when I talk to people said why did
you buy that house, They'll say, oh, you know, it
was a feeling it was at that house. That home
that we purchase just felt right. But when you are
selling a property, I think it's crucial that you do
some storytelling about what the current owners love about the
property rather than just a list of what's there.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Storytelling rather than storytelling. There's two different types of storytelling,
because there's a storytelling when you're being naughty, and then
there's a storytelling when you are drawing people into a story.
So you mean that one not the other one.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Not telling stories about your past or you know, telling
on someone. It's actually why would you live here? In
a simple thing. You can be running an open home
and you can say, oh, the owners just love They
feed the tooyes every year and they just love it
out on the deck. You know you're not saying, look
there's a big deck and look at the indoor outdoor
flow a lot of people just state the obvious and
(05:42):
their add copy. You want to be telling a bit
more of a story about why it would be a
cool place to live in.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Of course, if you're saying that the previous owners the
current owners love to feed the toys and in fact
there are no toyes, storytelling of a different kind.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yeah that's true. But hey, you're not going to get
too far on telling lies or you know, you've got
to be You've got to be authentic with what you're
saying for sure.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well that's because of of course, long term as an agent,
your vested interest is as the agent especially, is to
give everyone a positive experience, because that's how you'd get
business back and repeat business and you have a long
term career.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Oh, I think the hard courts have an old school
client for life. And I think you know one of
the things I love about real estate. Years ago we
got invited to go to Disney Disneyland as real estate people. Yes,
and it was a hard courts. I thought I was
asked to pay for managers to go to Disney. Now
(06:41):
that this is ridiculous. It's not my idea. Why would
I pay then go to Disneyland? But what we were
asked to do. We went to the Disney Academy where
they trained all the people who worked in the Disney
theme parks. And the concept of all the staff working
at Disney was when people leaving the theme park, they
wanted to have a desire to return to have such
(07:02):
a great family experience and a desire to recommend to
their friend, family, colleagues. And I've got some Disney agents
because they just they have the client that will refer
people in because they had a great experience and they
will return because of the experience. Now, an agent who's
in it for a short term just burn the client,
do a deal, then try and find a new client.
It's a hard hard to build a sustainable creer over
(07:25):
a long term on that basis.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Okay, so what is I mean? We are in a
future with AI what do you? What do you? Okay,
let's start nice and easy, is it okay? Or something
where I mean, how far can you would people? I'm
not talking about your company, I was just thinking generally,
but I mean, have you ever seen images of a
house where you go, oh, they've flossied that up a
(07:49):
bit too much with the photoshop, or they've stuck the
grass and or for instance, you might have a patch
of patch or ground we've stuck a flower bed in
there where there is none. Is it okay to green
the grass because grass in summer can go but brown
if you haven't watered it and it's going to be
green in winter. I mean, are their rules to these things?
Speaker 4 (08:07):
Well? Were we finding? Buyers are generally fine with AI
improving photos, you know, brightening up the sky or.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Oh they do that. They get an internal photo where
everything's bright outside. I look at it and go all
the photoshop, the windows, the view outside.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, but generally buyers are happy with that better lighting,
you know, putting some virtual staging into a property of
its empty green of lawns, taking rubbish bins out of
a picture so it looks better cosmetic.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Okay, I'm going to write a list here. I think
taking the rubbish bins out is okay, although would have
been preferable that you'd remove them. You might, But taking
vegans out, we'll give that a tick. Greening the grass
no problem. Yeah, you can green the grass, but.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Buyers aren't worried about that. I mean, it could be
dry summer, but it's just enhancing the property. What what if.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You've replaced cockuoo, grass and all that sort of stuff
which is difficult to mow and you get but stripped
out by the moa with a nice sort of Karras Brook.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Yeah, look, I don't Buyers are not fine with AI
changing the reality of the property, so making a living
room look bigger, or making a view look closer, but
just just photo shopping, tidying up the image so the
sun looks like it's shining if your photography is on
a rainy day. People are accepting of that. But there
is a shift in the industry where and if you're well,
(09:31):
I don't call it doom scrolling. I'm on my phone
scrolling through Instagram all the time. Find it quite a
happy place myself. I get a bit annoyed it's a
doom scroller. But if you do get I've.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Got lots of puppies, you know, you got that rolling
over on your Instagram, whether.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Getting a lot of stuff on safaris, you know, I
was talking about that, you know, going into Africa and
looking on those animal safaris. But half the time I
don't know what's real or not. So that's a frustrating
thing as a consumer of content.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Actually funny enough, you should say that I do have
that with Instagram. There's a certain voice that's a generic
AI voice of this, and as soon as I hear it,
I'm just like, I'm not interested, and I almost wish
I could shout at the person who could produce that video. Yeah,
bugger off.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Yeah, I think it'd be great if there's a water
mark on real estate. You know, it just had an
AI water mark, so it would be a statutory thing
that if you are putting images up that have been enhanced,
you have to put a little AI water mark on it.
So you, as a consumer, you look at the photograph
and you know in the bottom right hand corner theres or.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Just a note digitally enhanced in the footnote digitally.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Do I think that would be a good move forward?
So yeah, Well.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Here's one you mentioned digitally staging. So you've got an
empty room and you shove a bed in there. That
is instantly problematic for me because it gives no idea
of dimensions. You might have a room that's tiny and
somebody's managed to make it look like a double bead
fit in there quite nicely, which means there's no substitute
for going and visiting a property, is there.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
Oh, look, if you are making something look bigger than
it is and the consumer, the customer comes and has
a look, they're going to.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Trust gets eroded pretty quickly.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, they especially if they're driving all the way out,
look at the property, have a look. They get there
thinking oh, that's good, it's got the space we want.
But their photos haven't represented what the properties like. They
look at the property and so this isn't what we
came all this way to look for. And then they
look at the agent and think, what do you You're
misrepresenting it. It doesn't help.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Actually, that's an interesting point because if I'm that sort
of customer that if I did have a bad experience
with a particular agent, I'd be like, I'd be ruling
out all their listings. I just if I went out
and I found that it was nonsense, I'd just be like, well,
I'm not going to look at anything they're offering because
I'm not going to waste my time. Again.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Well, if it doesn't match reality, when you get there
straight away, you're going to think, well, the agent's got
me here, they've tricked me, and it's not helpful. You
don't want to be tricked into buying a property.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Could you do I mean, okay, if it was clearly labeled,
could you have images where you've reimagined something and saying, look,
this is the potential for this property. That's a tricky
one because one photo rolls into another, isn't it? That
was funny. The other week we had a Property of
the Week where part of it to me was fascinating
because they had the order of the photos, didn't present
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the best view of the house first, and had endless
photos of the house from a few degrees different angle
that the entrance way, and I thought, God, there's five
photos the same for start. And then the next photo
was of the septic tanks and it was showing off
the retaining wall and stuff. And I just remember going
because there is an art to staging a home, isn't there?
I mean even just the number of photos. Do you
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have a policy on you know, how many photos you'd
put up of a home before you're going hang on,
you're saturating the brain there.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Oh yeah, some large, expensive properties with a lot of outbuildings,
you can get forty eight or four photographs plus a video,
plus floor plans, but about twenty four photos is a
good number to scroll through and get an idea of
a standard sized property.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Because the other thing, actually, how do you how generally
do people take photos? There would have I imagine there
would have been a time when you had a professional
photographer come in these days with the videos that would
be imagined by somebody else.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
All of our listings would be professionally photographed. Absolutely is
you're setting You are like trying to set the trap,
you know. So if we're trying to hunt, if you're
trying to hunt for mice, yeah, put some good cheese
in it. So you want it to look good. And
I'll tell you what property staging is a big thing.
I really think some people would look at the home
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beautifully staged, beautiful and tidy. Everything looks fantastic, and then
when they settle on that home, everything's out. They come
into the empty house and think, oh my god, this
doesn't look like what we purchased too late. It's a
trap here. But hey, you look at the visual online
stuff now it If you present your property poorly in
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a competitive market, you're not going to get as many
people through as many inspections. You've got to play the game.
You've got it just like if you took your car.
If every car in the car yard was not groomed,
oh you're not beautifully presented, they're not going to have
a good lineup of sales. So you've got to make
your house look beautiful.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
What does it? Should everyone stage their house or is
it or are there? Is it just a case that
if somebody has exceptional taste in decore where you say,
you're probably all right. Interestingly, the property of the week
this week, I'm going to get your take on it.
I might actually share the address of it well in
advance because it's part of this conversation. We can talk
about it later on. But it's interesting because most of
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the home, in fact, I think all of their furniture
looks pretty good, except there's a few sort of antique
sort of bits which are a bit incongruous and you
almost think, I wonder if there was a conversation with
the age and about any might want to move that
one out. But and how flash does your house need
to be before you don't need to stage it.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I think to be competitive you should have it looking
at its absolute best. And I have some of my
team members they'll have a seller spending thirty or forty
thousand dollars on a refresh of their property, prying to
go this is an Auckland based property.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Going to refresh, not just staging it.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah yeah, but like it may be this needs doing,
that needs doing, but they've had enough experience that they
can actually help a seller make their home look beautiful
and get the money back plus because it looks so good.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Well, funny enough, funny you should say that, because that's
one of the questions I had for you was about
the investments you make. You know, what sort of investment
should you or do you need to make? And what
are the ways of spending money on presenting and improving
your property so you get the price you want that
actually pay for themselves and what doesn't. And the actually
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part of the reason we're asking this was because by accident,
we ended up having quite a busy conversation when somebody
simply texted and going with selling our house and I
want to add solar to make it more sellable. And
we had had a very detail, quite a big conversation
with our callers and texts about whether it's worth it
or not. And I think it boiled down to that
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that probably wasn't necessarily going to get the money back
in the way that it might have been, but it
led us to think, we should discuss this with you
about what you can spend money on where you'll get
the money back. And you'd say a refresh That sounds
to me like paint, maybe carpets and staging.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Yeah, it could be. Could it be as far as
a bathroom makeover or a deck replaced.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Or well that's getting priced. As soon as you say bathrooms,
it's like, ah.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Yeah, yeah, But look, each home is unique, and that's
the thing you've got to go through. I had a
found it quite you had to have the trust of
the person when you were listing their property for sale,
but with their permission. One of my favorite tasks was
to get a clipboard I felt quite official and go
around and say, right, I'm going to go round and
have a thorough inspection and look at your home through buyers' eyes,
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and I'm going to give you a list of things
that I think will get you a better outcome.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Because God to go through my house.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Like when you're running an open home, if the spouting
is a bit off on the property, the buyer generally
works out roughly what it would cost to fix it
and doubles the price and expects to get that off
the price.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So if you've got if you've got something that obviously
needs replacing, then you should you need to do that now.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Well, in my opinion, have everything so beautifully presented that
the people trying to knock your price down can't fault
the property.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
You see. Okay, here's just me shooting from the hip.
I think that if you've got something that's essential to
the function of the house to someone's enjoyment of it,
like you know, leaky guttering and spouting and stuff, I
think that that makes sense. You've got to do that.
But for instance, if I look at the house and go, okay,
we could knock that knock that wall out and make
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it much more appealing, would I leave that to the
buyer to work out for themselves, Because you know what
I mean, there's a difference between utilitarian this is you
have to we're going to have to do this as
soon as we move in, versus we might want to
do this.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Oh yeah, look, every case is different. But all my
years as an agent, my favorite line was I loved
French doors, you know, the and the amount of homes
that the amount of homes I sold that I said,
imagine putting some French doors in there and opening it
out so you had indoor flow.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
So did they do it or you just used to
say that to.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
The now you're selling, what would create that? And then
you take them outside and say look at the view
you'd get imagined and looking back there with French doors.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
French doors.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But that was back like I was listing and selling
real estate. Now you might say by fault doors opening out,
but I just liked the bit of European style with French.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Funny. That sounds very nineteen eighties.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Yeah, yeah, selling houses for a long time.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I'd love to flash if this was a your whole
life had been a TV show, we'd go. Now we've
got a clip of Martin offering the French doors.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Hey, look this is the thing. The first house I
ever sold, probably before you were born, to my nineteen
eighty three, very kind of for thirty thirty four. Five
hundred dollars was the sale price of the house.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
So did you feel at that time that was a
lot of money?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Well, that was in Dunedin where I started selling real estates.
So do you know that you could buy a whole
four bedroom student flat for that price back to those days.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Not a bad investment. Apparently. Apparently that's the thing that's
very trendy at the moment, buying a bit of a
dump of a place and then renting it just to
ten students for the year and making a killing on
the returns. I think that's pushed the value of those
properties up, the Old Castle Street flats. But that's off
the topic. Yes, we want to know. Actually I've got
a really silly trivial thing on the staging of a home,
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But we want your cause on this. Where do you
think money is well spent on staging or presenting your
home that'll actually get you'll get back in the purchase price?
And does it? Of course, everything's according to whatever the
property is. But I've got a fun question for you.
How many throw pillows and pillows is too many for
every bed? Because I tell you what, you look at
a stage home. I think they've got about twelve pillows
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each at least, and maybe as too many, not enough.
Eight hundred ten eighty twenty seven Past four news talks
here'd b Martin Cooper is my guess we'll be back
in just to take this news talks here be this
is one roof radio show. We're talking about the money
that you can spend on getting you know, on improving
your property or getting ready for sale. What is money
well spent and staging at home, but also the role
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of AI as a buyer and as a seller. How
much would you tweak your photos to make it look
more presenting. Let's go to the calls. David, Hello, David,
Hang on a minute. We just need to make sure
something's on there, which it might not be. And David,
we can't hear David. I'll just oh there you are
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you there?
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, I've been here, I'm still here. Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Where you go? Yeah, I'm enjoying the banter. Yeah, you know,
I always enjoy that. And I have sold a place
at one point that I needed to stage and we've
invested at that time. And it wasn't that long ago,
but it was probably ten years or something like that.
(22:00):
But we staged it and it cost us about three grand.
Now it'd be more now, but and and you can
stage it yourself, but my wife didn't want me to
do that, so we left. We left it, left it
to the professionals, and they did it great. They did
a great job, and it was theft for about five
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or six weeks and then they took it away after
the thing it sold. But to me, that's almost like
artificial intelligence, because it's it's planting the seed of in
people's brains of you know, yeah, of course it's not.
It's nothing about it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
It's not like showing the home as you lived in it.
It's showing an ideal. What did it feel about?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Naughty?
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Did it feel a bit naughty you doing that?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
No? I did not, because we've had it on the
market and it wasn't selling and it made a difference.
We got our product with the price that it sold
for a lot more after that, however, but we had
reasons to use the money, so you know, there's nothing
wrong with that. But what it wrang about was the
cushions thing, and that that struck a forward. I'm sick
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of cushions. I think should be banned. And every man
who is listening to this would probably agree. You dislocate
your neck on all this crap and some of these bnbs.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Yeah, well, I've got Levin on my bed, but it's
not my bed though, I'm not the boss of it,
but my wife. And then I go into the bedroom David,
and I just get the cushions and throw them off
in the corner. And I'm told to place the cushions neatly,
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and it drives me absolutely nuts. And then I also
have to chop them. Do you karate chop a cushion
so it has the right shape when you put it
back on the bed. There is intense amount of cushion protocol.
But yeah, yeah. And sometimes you look at the bed
staging in the real estate photos and they've got the blanket,
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the weaved blank kid, and the cushions and there's no
room for anyone to actually sleep in the beard it's
so covered.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Actually, I'm just looking at the proper of the week
one right now? How on therese one two three, Oh,
they've had the karate chop. They've given them the one two, three, four, five, six,
seven eight, And that looks like they've gone light on
the cushions there. They could have gone with a few more.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Yeah, eleven, you've got to have one old one right
at the front.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
We never do the karate chop.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Oh. If I don't do the karate chop, I get
a karate chop.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Actually, Actually, David, however, do you think that cushions help
with staging the home, because I mean, this one looks ridiculous.
I'm looking at what is the address of it so
people can look. Oh, I'm going to give you the
address of this one. It's twelve. It's a bit flash
because it's got two addresses. It's twelve and sixteen page
point in Melon's Bay. Twelve and sixteen page point in
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Melon's Bay. So how many look are you the decision
maker on these things in your house? David?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Well, you know the answer had the answers. You know,
there's no and it takes a lot of negotiation, and
it keeps coming up every motel we stay at because
I dislocated my neck basically for about two weeks at
one of the places, and the thing was like a
cube of concrete or most and it was way over
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dementia was square. I mean, I mean, a cushion is
a cushion. It's a netrol fat used to be down,
didn't it. It used to be goose for this basically, oh yeah,
in the old days, and then it just comes down.
It's just a cushion. There's good enough I mean, you
know what it's like some places you've probably slept in
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where all your mind is just a kind of nice pillow.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You do realize that when you stay in a place,
you suppose you actually can take them off the bed,
can't you. You're not supposed to actually sleep with every
cushion that's been there when you first walk in.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
No, exactly, but unfortunately I tried to get to sleep
at the time, and it did the damage in the
first five minutes. And then I kicked it round and
there was a smaller place. There was nowhere to put
the damn thing. It looked like a pie said concrete.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Really yeah, okay, well anyway, but anyway, staging worked for you.
And did you have extra Did you have lots of
cushions in the staging?
Speaker 2 (26:27):
No, No, it was just and I put the odd
book of my own, you know, here and there just
anybody with a you know, you know, we've taken interest
in that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Yeah, you wanted them to know a bit about you. Yeah, hey,
thanks for sharing that with us, David. That is quite funny. Actually,
now that I appreciate you call. Now that Davis has
mentioned and you've mentioned the Karate chop on the cushions
the house that's on being staged at twenty twelve and
sixteen page point. I'm looking at the I'm looking at
the lounge and on the sofa there's one, two, three, four, five,
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six seven, and they've all been karate chopped in the middle.
I've never noticed the karate chop and the chair at
both all three chairs that have got the karate chop.
On the bed, there's one bed that's got so many Oh,
there's another more karate chop. Cushions there everywhere the karate chop.
Once you see them, you can't unsee the karate chop.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
Martin, No, it's part of the esthetic design of a
cushion is about a karate chop. It's just not the
right shape.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
I had no IDEA Funny thing is the bed that
one of the bedrooms where it's got a bunch of cushions.
From one angle, it looks like the bed there's almost
nowhere to sleep. It's just cushion, cushion, cushion, cushion, cushion, cushion, cushion.
I know it's off the topic, but it's you know,
it's part of the investment you might make in staging house.
It seems that too many cushions still isn't enough.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
It's layers, it's texture. It gives a depth of color
and character to a home. But French doors and good lock.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Somebody has said to me here, I wish you could
have seen my home. Amazing. Yes, French doors, but designed
here in New Plymouth by myself and then had built
there were French Mediterranean stale style, all staged by me. Then,
so this is just someone endorsing. I'm not sure when
this man or woman would have had that done. But
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French doors, they don't seem to be so much dajour
these days, do they.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
No, No, it's the bifold doors. It's opening out completely.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
And I was wondering if the new conversation around that
as people go. Imagine just putting shutters on the window there.
You could open them all right up, but then you
have privacy shutters. It's a shutter is a thing where
you can improve it.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
Well. There are another form of layering of texture and
the property, and it can particularly in suburban environments. You
can shut your windows off and you can adjust them
for privacy, but have the sunlight coming in, so they
are another addition to a stylish property without a doubt.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Okay, here's one. In fact, as I say here's one,
the person who's texting says, here's one for you boys.
I staged my first home I was selling by placing
an inflatable mattress on four miter ten buckets. I then
put a flash looking duvet from an op shop a
top of that, and then hope, like, how no one
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sat on it? Yeah that's the cats. But anyway, this
person said it worked. Yeah, I would discourage people from
that technique.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Possibly, No, there's no problem. All you're just letting people
know what it would look like as a bedroom rather
than just leaving it as an empty room.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
But would you if you were having an open home,
you'd put a note on the bed saying please do
not sit on that.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
We're honestly, people should not be trying that. They're not
buying the bed, they're buying the house. So and more
full lem if they jumped on it.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
But what if they just noticed their shoelace was undone
and just happened to pop themselves.
Speaker 4 (29:47):
Oh okay, yeah, well we did have occupational safety, so
we might have to put a warning on that.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
But Okay, we're going to dig into a bit more.
What you can you know, where the money is really
well spent in an order of priority. If you are
you know, look, you might not have the next ten
million dollar home. You might be selling it. You might
be entry level. So how much can you spend and
what should you do to make your property the one
that the first home buyers are going to go? I
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think this is the this is the one for our dreams.
Eight hundred eighty ten and eighty text nine two nine
two And how many pillows is too many? That's my
flippant little question, but only enough. The first caller was
on that topic exactly. And do they need the karate
chop back in a moment. It's twenty to five This
News talks that be where with Martin Cooper from hard Courts,
and we're talking about the money that you can spend
(30:35):
on your home when you're getting ready to sell it,
that you will actually get back. It's worth it, And
I think the general consensus of the conversation Martin is
that unless you know, with the exception of people who
have exceptional interior design taste and presented homes, staging a
home is money well spent generally.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Absolutely, it just makes all the difference. I said earlier,
you're setting a trap, so have you want people to
come in? If people look at five or six properties
and this one just feels so good and it's got
a richness of texture and all everything looks beautifully presented,
it's just it's more enticing to say, oh, imagine we'd
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be living here. How cool is this? And this staging
first started. I remember up at Clearmos Orchard there was
a row of homes built maybe twenty years ago, and
people have been living in like Glenfield and their old
secondhand home, you know, twenty twenty thirty years old, and
they say, come up and have a look. And the
homes were artwork, stage kids, tennis rackets and beautiful, immaculate condition,
(31:40):
beautifully staged. They'd come and have a look at the
new home. They'd look look at this, it looks so beautiful,
the colors, everything, and then they go back to their
old thirty year old home, have a look around, think
let's get out of here.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Actually I was actually curious to should I forgot to
ask their other caller, David, because sometimes you can actually
look at the way this home is staged and you go,
you know, having in that third third set of eyes,
and you go, I can't believe that we never thought
of doing this ourselves.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I'll tell you one thing. I used to have had
some great staging people. So someone's selling, you want them
to be motivated about selling, an enthusiastic You get the
home staged, decluttered, refreshed, gardens done.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
He decided to stay.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
And the owners are looking around. This isn't so bad
after all.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
Actually do you have do you ever have people who
are looking at moving and then they realized they haven't
done enough with their home and they just pull it
and say, look, well, actually we've done thanks for the
inspiration for staging.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
Well, I've had the circumstance where the seller has been
so impressed with the staging and the improvements to the
property that they have wanted more money for their property.
So and they deservedly they invested in it, but they
got more attached to it because they thought, why didn't
we do this for the last ten years and enjoy
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living in it like like it is now.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
We're in our stage now actually, because you know, we've
got some we've got some stuff we have to finish
and it's amazing how long you can get used to
the fact you've still got bear jib in the hall
and the hallway sort of thing. And we realized, actually,
you know what, it's been something my wife's been talking
to me about that it's time to finish it. But
it is. I mean, it's all to do with financial
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pressure and borrowing.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I know that every man woman, your home is your castle,
but you escape from life from stresses out there, you
should have it looking the best you can.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
I'm going to do it because it's funny. I will
show you in the break the change we made to
our bathroom because for so while our kids were growing up,
we had a bathroom where there was a bathtub with
a wall and a curtain and it was moldy above
the It was a real dog of a bathroom. It
was horrible. And look, it was the place that we've
(33:56):
been renting, and we got you get used to it,
and then we finally went, we've got to do the bathroom.
We've got to do the bathroom. And we did the bathroom.
We got some great design advice and having but a
shower in your new bathroom with the tiles and stuff,
it's like a holiday. Every time you walk in there,
you're like.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
Oh, zen, and that's where you start your day and
if it's covered in mold and mildew, and how the
hell can you sit your day starting that way?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Text says Judy says, your program's hilarious, surely well known.
It's well known. Blokes hate cushions. The karate chop aka
rabbity is very much a girl thing. We'll definitely be
listening next Saturday. Martin is a great real estate agent,
by the way, says, Oh meant to prefread this text.
Seed and snakes some compliments in their duty.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Thank you, Judy.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
And somebody says, I think there is exceptions to stage
and whereby thinks they're getting a bargain if it's in
poor condition, as they believe they can add value, especially
at the bottom of the market. What's your comment on that.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Oh, yeah, there's this interesting phenomenon of if something so
poorly presented, it goes into wow, this is so bad,
it's got potential, and it can create an environment where
people think I can get in fix this up and
it makes the money. So sometimes doing something different to
the rest when it's so bad. I worked with a
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guy years ago, and his best attribute. He was positive
about everything. He could see potential in the property, so
he was almost he'd look like stage of property in
people's minds, you know, telling them look at the view.
The place was a wreck, but he'd say, look at
the view when you fix this up. Imagine he would
(35:47):
sell the vision, and nowadays it's not. Everyone's able to
sell the vision. Everything's visual in life, billboards, TV. So
what you need to do as a home seller is
let people see stage it, set it, make it look how.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Don't leave so much to the imagination people.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Everything's everything's visual nowadays media data coming at us. So
I mean, we used to have black and white TV
back in the day, one or two stations, but now
you've got a choice. So you need to see what
it looks like, how you can enjoy living in it.
So staging is really important to set the track.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
Actually text supports that. It says, HI, there restaging. I
received a low offer. I had staging for six weeks,
took the staging. I took the staging out and a
couple oh, it says the opposite took the staging out
and a couple of weeks later received an offer of
thirty k more. Oh, I'd misread that text about to
say I put staging in and it got all this
extra money.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
But oh yeah, but look, it's just you only need
one buyer who falls in love with the property. And
I was selling my first property. I remember, I had
seventy eight buyers through it, and I was about to
throw it away and get rid of the my price expectation.
I was about to accept a low offer and leave money.
(37:06):
Would you believe in the need in my first home
I ever bought? But then by number because I was
counting them by number, seventy nine just fell in love
with it and paid me above what I'd hoped to
get for it. Yet my morale was gone because so
many people had said no to it. So in that
last year I.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Meant, there's a lot of interest in it, but there's
been a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
A lot of people rejecting it. I mean, you're married,
aren't you. Yes, I guarantee the first person you went
out didn't look. You probably asked seventy eight people to
get married.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Thank you. Close, close, close, close.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
You know.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
But if you keep keep asking and keep going, something
good can happen.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Hey. Look, speaking of the staging. That one roof properly
of the week is next. It's twelve and sixteen page
point and we'll dig into it in just a moment.
This is news Talk sai'd be the one roof radio
show ten to five.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
The one roof property of the week on the weekend collective.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yes, and the one roof properly the week. Well, in
terms of location, it is pretty stunning and it is
a gorgeous property, as you will have heard beforehand, because
we presold this one just so you can go and
check out the staging. Twelve and sixteen page point, Melon's Bay,
Monaco City. It's four bedrooms, five bathrooms, five car garage.
The house okay, the house listened to the number at
(38:27):
six hundred and seventy five square meters. That's a biggin
land of six thousand square meters. Look it's got says
no estimate. Apparently the irv's ten million. And it is
quite a stunning And actually you know what I look
at now because of the you know when we had
bad weather events, you see cliffs give way. The property
looks as a reasonable distance, the house looks a reasonable distance
(38:49):
away from the cliff edge, which would be my first
thing I've had spare ten million, and it's generally been staged,
but I think there are some original pieces of furniture
in there as well. But they've certainly got a truckload
of cushions to go with. Martin, what do you think
of the property.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
The legacy property. It's stunning, the one hundred and eighty
degree views the sun. The serenity of this property is beautiful.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Have you watched the castle of course, straight to the pool,
the serenity an infinity pool, which infinity pool is still
a thing, by the way, are they sort of? Because
when they first came.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
Out, you're just looking over that hierarchy golf, So you're
sitting in that living area looking well at space, looking
over the pool, the reflections. And i'd say more than
the ten mill mark, but the agent will probably give
you a guide on it's a deadline sale, so that's
just put your interest in and show what you're prepared
to pay, and it's all the negotiation. But that is
(39:48):
a stunning piece of real estate. And the bathroom's in
such good condition, the quality, the tiling, everything's ready to
move in and enjoy.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
And yeah, and the cushions have been karate chopped into
the rabbits here is it's funny has sort of been staged,
but a lot of it isn't. Because you can see
there's some heirloom type of it looks like inherited furniture.
There's some old score, and the bed is really in
the main bedroom is it sort of looks like a
(40:18):
bit of a it's got a heavy on the wood
woodwork side of things, so that's probably not staged. I
don't imagine, but it's obviously they've got pretty good taste.
It's a gorgeous property, isn't.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
It's six hundred and seventy five square meters of home.
It's a lot of home and six thousand square meters
of prime land with the views.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
So go and check it out. It's twelve and sixteen
page point Melon's Bay and Monoco City, so go and
check it out. And as I always love looking at
the outdoor living spaces as well, just imagining, you know,
your friends coming around for a barbecue. I don't know,
is that funny of the things we think about. Everyone's
got their own take on things. But anyway, hate Martin,
(40:57):
thanks so much. If people want to catch up with you,
they can just google Martin Cooper Harcourts, can't.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
They Yeah, very keen, I can come and help with
the cushions.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Excellent, he does great ramedy. As he said, good training allegedly. Anyway. Hey,
look we're back with the Parents Squad with our new
guest Stephanie Power.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Next.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
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