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July 3, 2024 33 mins

After an incredibly emotional week of parenting and milestones, we've made a decision - Jordan and I are having a baby. That's all we can tell you. You'll have to listen to the full podcast to hear how.

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Thanks guys, Hey everybody, and welcome to a brand new
episode of The Parenting Hangover where we're coming off the
back of a long weekend and we've got a lot
to catch up on and there's a couple of milestone
events that have been happening with our children.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
If fully, if please, I don't want to suppil I
might have got it.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I might have got a bit emotional at one point
in the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
It might be a bit of Clint's child graduates, Kendy,
which is a big milestone, and let's just say it
hits Clint hard and he tries to retell the story
and it just unravels. It's beautiful. It's a beautiful moment.
And that's why I was just trying to set the scene.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Just put it this way. I think I have to
talk with my wife after first week's podcast. Yeah, I
think she has to hear it from me. I don't
think I can. I don't think I can let someone
else tell her what gets set on this podcast, can I?

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, you're gonna have to tell her Yeah, otherwise she's
gonna have a mate that listens to this and then
goes to her, and then you're really in this ship
than the dog box. Also Matiniki Weekend for me win
a bit sideways, but ended up doing lots of random exclusions.
That's all In today's episode of The Parenting Hangover.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
We're back and this is our last episode before the
school holidays. We will be taking a break for school holidays,
so don't freak out when there's no podcast for the
next two weeks after this one because school holidays in
New Zealand mid year midyear holidays.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Halfway through the.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Year, yeah, which is classic old people. As we get older,
time flies. But I was like, got the pinch of
the punch the other morning from Meela. She ran around
the whole house, got everyone. I was like, holy shit,
it's half a year. Like you've been intermediate now for
half a year. Yeah, it's just boggles mom. I don't
know how ninety year old people feel year it seems faster,

(02:57):
does it? Surely it would feel for them that it's slower.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
It feels so much faster for me now with kids,
because there's so many little milestones that come at you
so fast. But then I wonder if when you get
into the back end of life, if it slows down again,
or if you're just like in a like a like
a water slide to the grave, you're just like, whoa.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Oh shit, I was just eighty yesterday. Now there's people
talking at my coffin. What Yeah. Disclaimer if you hear
any thuds or bangs or weird noises. Alba is home
with a cold. She's been fighting since last week on
and off. It was a big week for her. She's
doing Cuppa Hakka this year and so Matariki, which is

(03:39):
a Marty Holiday Marty New Year, so big schools and
kindergartens and colleges all throughout New Zealand get right behind it.
It's bloody awesome. So she had multiple Cupa Hacker performances
to do, which is Coupa Hacker is like Malti song singing,
Marty songs traditions. Yeah yeah, Mary performing arts you go,

(04:01):
so we kind of She had the morning off and she's,
I just want to go to school to do this one,
and she went and did a morning session kupa Hacker
performance for like the little kids, and then we got
invited to the one o'clock one and she was up there,
bro just like a zombie. I was taking photos of
her and I didn't even know if her eyes were open.
And I went up to her straight after us, I'm
taking you home now, and she's like, why, I'm fine, Dad,

(04:22):
I'm fine, But sadly she's she's missed out on lots.
She's missed out on lots. This goes straight into her
how's the kids, because we talked about last week. So
for Matadiki, which is a long weekend, we were going
to the Blue Lakes to go to the camping ground
Santa Cabin for a few nights with friends, but Alba
was very sick, so we canceled. Well, we can't drag

(04:46):
her and live. Yeah, she was sick enough that you
couldn't just say you're right, jump in the car. Yeah,
Like she had temperatures and she coughing all night and
very blocked up. So we were like, let's cancel. So
it worked out well though because the friends who were
going with they were taking their caravan and he left

(05:06):
it last minute to go and get a Warren Fitness
and when had it checked and the mechanics like the
whole chassis is cracked underneath. You can't go anywhere in this,
and your brakes seized up. So they actually called us
first and said is there any other cabins? And it
was all booked outcause Masadiki. So we're like, oh no,
what do we do? And they're like, oh shit, maybe
we should cancel. And then Albert got sick, well sicker.

(05:27):
We were like, hey, let's just canceled. So we lost
a couple hundred bucks each though.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Side note, has anyone got a good caravan story? Everybody
that I talked to who buys a caravan either finds
that it's full of rust. There's a secondhand caravans that's
full of rust, or the brakes don't work, or they
buy one and they go, we're just going to do
it up a little bit and they end up having
to strip the whole thing right back to the frame.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
For our American friends, a caravan is a trailer trailer
that you live in, you know, And I don't know,
we didn't have the podcast when we had a caravan.
Did you know we got a caravan? I think I
have mentioned, but we got one from we got right
into it. Friends had them and we moved here and
we're like, we need to get an old classic caravan.
I liked, yeah. Yeah. When I visited my grandma and

(06:11):
I see something under a big blue tarp and if
you're not looking for things, you don't really notice them.
And I'm like, what's that. She's like, oh, that's a
big caravan, So whose is it? And she's like, it's
your dad's. So I've never known of this. We opened
the doors. This big twenty foot looked really tidy, smelled
a bit funky, but looked really good, and we got
it for Dad, like pretty cheap, towed it back over
to Todunger. I saw there was a little leak in

(06:33):
one back corner, so I just gently pulled some timber
away and then you end up there. It rained and
every scene was just like a waterfall. This is after
Dad said, it's sweet, it's absolutely fine. It's basically just
sawed the rust on the chessis and it's fine. We
ended up stripping the whole thing, and then we became
these people that were like, we're going to do up
a caravan. Our whole neighborhood knew that we had this

(06:54):
massive caravan behind the fences, like it was just an eyesore.
It's set. Therefore, I stripped it in a day of
fun and ended up stripping ninety nine percent more than
I wanted to, And they just sat there for about
five months until I listed on a marketplace and someone
bought it as a shell.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
There's every caravan ever, It's every caravan I've ever heard
any family buy. And a root of your dad to
not tell you that that blue tar poland that was
covering it was actually structural.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, it was a structural blue tap. Yeah, he's like,
I told you it was fun, but you had to
keep the tarp on.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Did you remove the top?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Bro, did you remove the top?

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
So it could be won a caravan. You have to
buy almost a brand new caravan and they're not cheap.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
So no, they're not cheap. They're not cheap. So we
ended up not going away but instead because when we
were down and we were going to be in rout
just off to the side at this lake place and
we were going to go mountain biking with the kids
in the Redwoods for one day. So instead we just
held off a few days when album was okay, So
on Saturday we met up with those friends down there,
and we went and we did our mountain biking, and

(07:55):
I quickly learned that you either love mountain biking or
really I hate mountain biking. I'd been a few times before,
but it was this time that really sealed the deal.
And I stopped and asked myself, am I enjoying this?
And I was not, and neither was Like, my kids
weren't big fans either. Comically, Nala, Nala's with Jody. So
I've gone ahead with the faster kids and Nala my

(08:17):
six yards with Jody, and within three minutes and we
forgot that this happened last time. I don't know why,
but she's like, I need to go back. My Fanny
saw kids would just say the most random things. So
she said, we gotta goes back. I gotta saw Fanny.
I don't know how she's riding. I'm like, are you
putting weight on your feet as your cheer? Too high
or too low? I don't know what's going on. And

(08:38):
so we've kind of learned that our kids aren't great
with mountain biking, and I'm happy if we never ever
do it again.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I'm from there, and the mountain biking tracks and the
redwoods are beautiful, but they are gnarly like they you
go up into the hills, did you do that embarrassing
thing that mountain bikers do that I never did when
I was mountain biking.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
But you put it.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Right down, down, down, down down into the logia until
you're doing like the rotations to cover three meters and
your pedals are just going around and around and around
like that, but you're not going anywhere.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Well, I'm quite a see. I've already converted my mountain
bike seat to a big lady style traditional vin to
protect your particular and I think I talked about this
because they're just so uncomfortable. And then a mate said, oh,
I no, you watch out when you go mountain biking
because it's so wide it's going to rub you on
the inside of your thighs. I'm like, whatever, mate, And
after one little trip and I got to do like
four different tracks, I'm like, I am red rawing here.

(09:28):
This is just terrible. And then the mate say, come
with me, man, we're gonna go do this because the
kid an let's go do this. Yeah. So we went
on this track just the dad's for twenty minutes. But
first you got to go up this big hill and
he's comically in one gear in first gear, spinning his legs.
I lift my bike up on my shoulder and I'm
more of a runner and my because my groin was

(09:48):
so sore. And I ran next to him and was
like passing him and I just ran my bike uphill
and he's laughing at me, and I'm like, you're the
idiot who's going a stale pace and one get just walk.
You're be able to walk your bike. But he's been
a few times. He took off quite fast. I was
aware that if my one hundred kilograms comes down on
a collar bone, it's goodbye. So I kind of got like,

(10:10):
I kind of got a little air, but I wasn't
like I'm going to do massive jumps here. And we
had kids, Yeah, the kids. Again, I think your kids
are just like let's do it, or oh man, this
is actually quite tiring. I don't want to be here.
And our kids kind of fell into that category.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Our friends took their kids hiking to the pinnacles in
the Coromandel.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Holy shit, that's a bit like how old were the kids?

Speaker 1 (10:32):
The kids are like eight, ten and twelve, and they've probably.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Just got these awesome that awesome kids stuff.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
They've got these awesome kids who.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Are supposed how un awesome kids.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
They love fitness, they are real sort of self motivated.
They they're just the best kids. Like and my kids
love their kids, and which is great because I see
them looking at them and going, wow, these are cool kids.
I'm like, yeah, copy everything, copy everything that those kids do.
Like one of them really loves the all Blacks And
they were over on the weekend and I have got

(11:06):
way too many all Blacks jerseys and I thought, oh,
I should give one to the eldest boy in this family.
And I knew he would love it. And I wentn't
got on this all black jersey, and I brought it out.
I said hey, and I checked with his mom. I said,
am I allowed to give him this? And she goes, yeah,
if you're sure, then yeah, that'd be great. And I said, hey,
would you like this all black jersey? And he goes, oh, no, thanks,

(11:27):
and I said, oh, okay, yes, yeah, nah nah nah na.
It's a bit flesh And I was like, oh, weird.
And then his dad goes to him, Hey, are you
just being polite?

Speaker 2 (11:38):
And he goes yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
I said Oh, take the jersey, man, I've got two
of this exact jersey. I want you to have it.
And then he took it and he was beaming from
ear to ear. So he really wanted this all black jersey,
but he was too polite to say yes please when
it was being offered to him, and I was like,
how did you raise this? Amazingly humble, grateful, polite young.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Man, classic humble Kiwi kids.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
I think at that age, if anyone offers you anything,
you kind of like that, Oh shit, am I allowed to? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I guess it's a yeah yeah. Do you think I
was going to charge him for it or something.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Maybe, or like do like a give it to him
and then be like a sucker and give it straight
back off him.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Hey you want this jerseys?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Please me too. It's mean it's a joke, you dick.
So we went, we did our mountain biking and then
I think it was on Friday. The weather was so
good and I was thinking if only album was well,
we can go on fishing today, like it was glass
to go fishing. And a mate went out on on
Friday and he was fishing and sending me for posts
and I'm like, ah, but what Actually, well, I had

(12:43):
a swim because I'm this new cold immersion person. I
took the kids really early on so Friday is official
Matadiki Day, the multi New Year Day is on that Friday.
So we went down to the beach really early. First
we got up and Meela knew where the Matadiki constellation was,
so show us the stars. So we're up.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
I saw it.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, we're up at like six am. Getting pointed out this,
I'm very reluctantly and then ran back to bed. I really, oh, yeah,
that's cool, and then realize, don't be a dick, get up,
and then I took the kids to the beach and
I went for a swim and it was fantastic. It
was like a great way of like this has embraced
the environment and the new year, mid winter, midwinter dip.

(13:24):
But so the fishing was lingering in the back of
my head. And then Jody brought up the fact and
this is the lovely story. Where did you ever have
like a teddy or a blankie or anything that you
grew up with?

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Yeah, I had a wiley coyote.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Okay, yeah, I had Bobo, which was weirdly it was
my older sister's teddy. Then it was handed down to
my brother and then I don't know what age it was,
but then it was mine and then I remember I
gave it to my little sister. I can't remember how
old we were, but Bobo is a big deal right
when you're a kid. If you got that blanky or whatever,
you're connected to it. We went to a family trip.

(13:56):
I think I told you the island be Jody's family
has that island. Remember, go to this place. Yea Alba
left her blanket that she's had since she was born,
that her grandmother hand quilted like a quilt, you know,
hand sewn, and left it at the island and it's
such a rigmarole to get there. And so the last
six months she's asked every few weeks you'll remember that
she doesn't have blankey, and she'll well up and she'll ask, Jody,

(14:19):
can we please get it? And we're like, next year,
when we go back, next year, we'll get it. It'll
be there. And then because I kind of wanted to
go fishing, Jody brought it up on the Saturday and goes,
maybe we could go to the island tomorrow and we
could go fishing, and it's kind of in this little harbor.
I knew it wasn't gonna be great, but I was like, yeah,
let's go. I just want to get the boat out.
So we went on this massive, massive hour twenty drive

(14:39):
from us to go and launch in this title little
crappy little boat ramp, which is a bit dodgy launching
a boat my side, because you can easily just get
stuck the way we launched the boat went fishing. The
kids all caught little tiny baby ca Hawaii like sprats. Basically,
we bought one home and had some raw fish out
of it, some civiche or whatever you call it. And
we went to the hut and I see the Jody
have you called the people? And she's like, now it's

(15:00):
always unlocked, okay, yep, but just to be safe, have
you like text them or called them? So we pull
up to that. We fish, fish fish for an hour,
then pulled up to the hut, hopped off the boat,
walk up doors locked. I'm just hopping off the boat
like shooting diggers at Jodie, like how has the And
then we were able to either is we're able to

(15:22):
go and check some other doors and one was unlocked,
and Alba walks in there and finds Blanky and just
has this beautiful moment of just standing there and just
welling up. And she just had this eevery March, April, May,
June for like five months. Yeah, right, So it was
very lovely.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
And I was hadn't been turned into a dog blanket
in the meantime.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
No, because apparently no one been there. This is the
this is the island hut batch that only gets used
a few times a year. So Jody said, I bet
you it's under a beard, and that they found it
there under the beard. So we went on this big.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Do not go searching for Jordan's secret family Island where
the hut is always unlocked.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
After listening to that, yeah, no you won't. You'll never
find it. You'll never find it. We'll delete that bit out.
But it was. It was a lovely blanky adventure. And
we got Blankie back and we came home and she
just wouldn't let it go. She with Blankie had great
We're hoping that it brings her back and it pulls
you out of her sickness and she didn't go to school.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yeah, that's a great lot. You pecked everything and considering
your sick sick kids, you had a great long weekend.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, we ended up doing oh and I played and
I played golf. I think I also played golf you
the kids. Yeah, we did lots. In the end, it
was it was going to be this big weekend away
and instead it became multiple things a little bit, but yeah,
I took I took two of the kids who weren't
sick on a golf cart and we went and played
nine holes at Too Bookie Golf Club and it was amazing.
That's the dread as well.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
That's a perfect weekend.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Oh. Now, now that I'm looking back, it's great.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Isn't reflection good? Right? You would have been that a
that was good? But when you stop and reflect on
these things, you go, oh, hang on, that was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, And that's what matauriki is all about at the
time as well, stopping and reflecting on the day that's
been nimbering people that have passed like were deep and meaningful.
How was your matariki Friday?

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Friday was good. We had lots of friends over. I
wasn't able to go to my family matariki down in
Carterson it was too far for us to go, but
we had lots of friends over, and so we had
lots of kids. We had about ten kids over in
our place.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
And all of the good tests of the new kitchen,
good test.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Of the new kitchen, good test of everything, good test
of the secondhand swing set, good test of just the
structural integrity of our house as a whole, it was
like seventy percent boys that were over here.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh shit.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
And there's these two boys in our friend group who
were just full noise, Like the second they came up
the stairs. They identified the one other boy and they
instantly started WWF wrestling, like full like body slams, throwing
each other off the couch. And I've got girls like you,
I'm not used to this. And there was this moment
where I looked over and they were body slamming each other,

(18:05):
and my two girls were kind of set on the
ground with their jewelry boxes, with their mouths agape, just
kind of going, what is going on?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
What are they? What are they doing? What the fuck?
Exactly right side question. You're there. You've got this beautiful,
well kept home, You've got nice furniture, nice things, and
some random boys come running in and start jumping all
over your couch as clink going. Oh don't like, are

(18:35):
your kids allowed to run and jump on your couch? Yeah? Yeah,
we have.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
We have the nice things. But it's a family home,
like our houses. It's not a show home.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
So I got brought Yeah, no, I'm not trying to
say you that much, but I got brought up so
strictly that you do not jump on a couch like
a couch is not a thing that I still have
that instilled in me so much. My kids know not
to sit on the art. You don't sit on the
arm of the chick. You don't jump on the couch.
And so when I have friends come and the boys
do it, I don't. My tongue does not. I don't
bite my tongue. I'm sure I jump, don't jump on

(19:05):
my couch.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I don't hesitate to tell other people's kids if they
need to stop doing something. I think, and I hope
that my friends would do the same thing to my kids.
I'm more about dirty hands. My issue was the boys
climbing up onto the balcony railing on the second story
of our house, and they were because because it's quite
open and it looks out towards the water, and I

(19:26):
think that it looks like a fun thing to climb on.
And I turned around and at one point three of
them were pulling themselves up onto this rating, and I
put my dad voice on the wind, all right, get
off that railing, and that's all.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
That was good. That was good, man. I got a
little my hair stood up there and I thought I
was eight years old again.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
You've got to do it, You got to do it.
I think you've gotta put the fear of God up them,
especially boys, so that they know build a chat.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Is this horror? Do you have horizontal railing that's kind
of like a ladder? No?

Speaker 1 (19:56):
No, no, no, no no. It's a glass balustrade with a
with a wood.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
They can get their hands high enough that they kind
of yeah themselves up.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's a glass balustrade and then it's got a wood
plank over the top, so you can sort of rest
your coffee on top, or a drink.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Or something like that.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
So we had lots of friends over for that, and
then we just chilled for the rest of the long weekend.
I did some more digging at my place.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I saw you posting some you got you got on
the tools. Mate, that's a that's a great long weekend
activity and do it my body. I feel like we
should have we should have had a side message. I
feel like we can't complain anymore about us.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
But my hand's hurt.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I had to swing this hammer and this sledge hammer
and this axe and what you t to do again?
I had audio I can't say.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I can't say because someone put the fear of God
up me. You would might have noticed that. I pulled
that Instagram story down and they said, hey, if someone
complains about what you're doing to the council, you could
have an inspector show up. Oh so I've stopped posting
about it, okay, tell me a shame. Which is a
shame because it was the only sort of manly credibility

(21:08):
I was getting by posting videos of me swinging an ax,
you know, And now now what am I just?

Speaker 2 (21:15):
I saw it. I saw it, and initially it sounded
it looked great, like you would you were out there. Yeah,
just shit on, like you know, your backyard stuff on.
He's got this big X he's swinging, and I'm like, great,
that looks good. And he'll cut the He'll cut his
Instagram video now oh no, no, no, He's going to keep
it full length, no music, no noise, and this is
all you here. It looks great, right, but every time
this is after the ax hit, so my hand hitting

(21:37):
my hand. Here is the ax and then this is
the sound after and I probably seven swings we saw. Ah. Oh,
like his grunt wasn't at the time where you should
be grunting. And I messag him straightaway, sweet grunting bro.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Do you know what I had in mind? As that
guy on Instagram that all the ladies like, who.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Splits the logs I've done a pistake of I've done?

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Is anybody going to message me and go, oh this
is like that log splitting guy? They didn't got messages.
Some people like Jordan going, you sound like you having six.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Usually you grunt as you're heading or just before because
you need that. But as were these post grunts, it
was good. It's that your brain forgot to.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Grunt here I meant to grunty. But anyway, the Mazadiki
weeken was great. Do you know what we did yesterday though?
And you will relate to this because I learned about
this from you kindy graduation, Oh, Kendy graduation was yesterday.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well that's a big deal, man, that's a big deal.
So she's starting school after the school holidays.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, she stayed in school straight off for school holidays.
Here's twy in a graduation quite a while with a
crown and so nice bro So here in New Zealand,
Kendy is age three to five. It's pre school and
they tee's candy and a lot of candy's. They do
a proper graduation ceremony for these kids. And she's only
been there for six months, but she's well entrenched in

(23:05):
that candy because she started there late.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
And oh b it's like.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
They want I'm sure they do want to make you cry,
but it's just seeing your child achieve some anything anything.
But they're sitting there, they wearing this this Maldi cloak
which is called a quarterway. It's got feathers on it,
and they tell you that this caught a way that
you're wearing is imbued with the manna of all the
children who have been a part of the candy beforehand.

(23:31):
And they sit in a special chair and all of
the other children sing songs to them, and the teachers
talk about their memories of that child.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
And they have their they go through the book.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Oh my god, it's the same at every kindy and
then they go around and all the kids stroke the
cord away and tell Telly that they're going to miss her,
and oh bro.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
I was like, it was weird.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
It's like it was obviously an achievement and it was
a very sort of wholesome and reverent thing. But I
was sad at the same time, Like I got this feeling,
I got a similar feeling that you get to when
someone dies, because I felt like this certain part of
life was over, and I was sort of still trying
to process the feeling. I'm like, why am I so

(24:18):
happy and proud but sad at the same time. And
I think it's because there's lots of moments in a
child's life where you realize that they're not a baby anymore.
But this was definitely it. Like she had no fear,
she had no shyness, she sat in her chair, she
acknowledged everything, she responded to everything, and she's ready for
school and she was so grown up. And I was like, yeah,

(24:40):
that's it, that's it. And then my other daughter, Meggie
was beside her, and she's three, and I was like
I don't have any more babies. And I in my mind,
and I haven't even said this to my wife, I went,
oh fuck, I think I want another baby.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Oh shit, Hey, I've had a brother who I've forgot
a brother in law, had the reversal done. Mate, it's possible.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
I've had the victomy. We've sold all the baby stuff, like,
we've gotten rid of everything and it's not gonna happen.
And I know it's a fleeting feeling. I'm sure there's
plenty of moments I could reflect on that would make
me feel like I never want another baby. But at
that moment, I went, this is the most beautiful ship
in the whole world. This is the reason that this
is my reason for being. Now, why wouldn't I I'm capable,

(25:24):
Why wouldn't have an Why wouldn't have another Why wouldn't
we have another baby? I love my wife, I love
my children, I love my life. Why wouldn't I have
another baby?

Speaker 2 (25:30):
But?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, I tell you what, as a that's a trap
that an unfasctimized man could very easily fall into, you know,
And you've not mentioned this to Lucy nah now because
she doesn't want to.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
She has something that soppy ship.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I save that for you.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
The unviasctimized one. Yeah, because yeah, I canceled it because
it was going to land in the school holidays that
happening now, And I could have easily as soon as
I canceled it, I could have rebooked. But I haven't.
I haven't rebooked yet, right, And I.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Could show you some more photos from the graduation and
you'll go, I'm going to kick it out another year.
I'm going to add another year.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah, but school is the big one. I remember when
they like Nla was only just a couple of years
ago where she did the exact same thing. And it's
because school is such a big deal and you really
have a big clique. Like they've gone from daycare life
was normal cand you lasts very similar day here. They're
still a massive part of your household. They're not away
doing all these after school things and school and then

(26:33):
booth holy shit there at.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
School school, and it feels like you are kind of
until they get there and they go over that hump.
It kind of feels like you've been raising them to
school age like that is it kind of feels like
the goalposts a little bit from when.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
You have ready for her to move out?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. See now we've raised our baby.
Now we have a child, but we've raised our baby now.
So and then I posted that photo on my Instagram,
which was a five year memory that came up of
Lucy pregnant with twy and I was like, God, we
don't even live in that house anymore. And then you
start going through all the things that have changed in
five years. It was very relevant to Matadiki too. It

(27:12):
was very reflective and sort of being thankful for people
that you love. And yeah, you keep an emotional weekend.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Sounds like if you keep reflecting, you just keep reflecting. Mate.
I'll just be in the background here fully here anyway.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I am a very grateful person for everything just has
happened and will happen in my life.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
So I think it's worth acknowledging that beautiful If we
had he would have faded their song up and there
be people crying right now. Well, you've had I think
you fuck, bro, you have a moment of you, a
moment where you need to say to Lucy that I
think you need to say it. You need You've only

(28:04):
got two men and the space is fine, the space
isn't too big. If you want another talk about right now,
because there's the decision to figure it out. If you
just paid her that clip, then she'll look to you
with tears in her eyes.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Man, that's not how my wife operates. I know my wife.
That's not how she operates. You know what she will
say to me, She'll go, She'll go, cool, who are
you going to have that kid with? That's cool? If
you want to have another kid, who are you going to.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Have it with?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Me?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Me and Jordan. Me and Jordan are adopting or.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Neither of our wives want our children, so we.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
You're completely right, we're gonna have to have a kid.
And we'll call it the parenting Hangover kid. You got
to come up with a name. That's funny, bro, that's funny,
you and me. That's what the front of them. I
want to see us in a year's time on the
front of Woman's Day. Just be like, yo, we ain't gay,
but just our baby. And the whole article is that

(29:01):
our wives didn't want another so me and adopted and
we we share. You have it for a week up
in all CLN. Then I have the first ever two
dead hetero sexual baby. Yeah, bro, is this a thing?

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Women? I mean Women's Day would want the story?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Would we wouldn't get the baby? Were who are so
keen for a baby? And then their wives at the
same time in that we're done and they're like, oh,
well we're going to adopt. We're adopting our own one.
I'm gonna live in our own little We're gonna have
our own house.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
The babies baby is raised in like a flat because
it's just to Muhammad Ali and Bob Marley on.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
The wall, box of TB Bitters in the free Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Beer crepe furniture. This is our baby.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
We've hit the nail on the head with something. Here
are you coming to me? This is so this is Thursday, today, tomorrow.
I have Creator Khan, which is that my my agency
that looks after me runs this big event. This is
the second year of it where they agency too. Yeah,

(30:07):
it's people called like creat Oh yeah, your agency too, creators.
So I'm a creator. Clint is also a creator, which
is weird.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Creators.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Basically they came up because yeah that sounds real, decky,
but it's like a whole day and like Facebook come
along and people from Instagram and TikTok and they talk to.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
You about new ways of doing shirt or whatever, something
like that, and then it ends with a bit of
a booze. Up. Are you coming, Yeah, I'll come if
you've got morning radio. Yeah, I'll be free. Look hopefully
no one from Tensing our agency. Here's this, but just
come to the pizza. I'm going. I'm me and Jody.

(30:47):
Me and Jody are dry. We have a night off, right,
So we're driving up Friday morning. We're going to get
to the event a bit late. We get there like
ten am because it's a full day thing. It's long,
bro It's like nine am to nine pm. But ten
am we get there. Then I think it wraps up
at about five and then from five till nine is
drinks and snacks. And so we're having a night. We're

(31:08):
having a night up in Auckland and then we go
home Saturday.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
You staying in a nice hotel.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, I think we're at the Pullman. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
And as she's she still doesn't want that baby.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Or again, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna edit your
bit down and I'm just gonna as the mood as
we're in the room, right and we both had our
shower and we're a bit tired. Then I'm gonna pull
up your face and play and just see what happens.
And if she's like, oh my god, throws the phone,
jumps on me and we have one, we.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Have one, well, then I'm definitely coming from If that's
what's happening, I'm definitely coming.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
So okay, choice, wrong word choice there, but okay, Lucy, Lucy,
I've got to go because Jordan is convinced Jody and look,
it's all it's all real, weird, but I feel like
I want to be.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
There, Okay. I feel like this baby, they're trying to
have one of.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
Us baby, and one of us need we both need
to be there, Okay, for the making of the baby.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
And I don't know where this is gone. We've got
for this week, guys, thanks for listening. We're going to
see you in a few weeks again. If you want
to on anything, send us an audio note on Instagram
where you're at. What you want us to talk about,
message us things, funny stories, anything, send it through. We

(32:18):
like to incorporate you, guys into the parenting Hangover family,
and we love to hear your accents sometimes we get
a little we cross the line when we hear certain accents,
and because it gets us both being like, wow.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Oh wait that podcast we recorded last week doing it
at night with a beer. We almost canceled ourselves a
couple of times. I was reviewing some of the videos.
One of us did a Jamaican accent.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I think we did. This was not met in the morning.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
I think.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
You definitely one hundred of you. Okay, have a good
if you're in New Zealand, bunk it down, enjoy the
school holidays. It's such a hard, hard time. What a
hard time for so many people. How the hell do
you manage two weeks of having to have your kids
at home and figure out how you go to you?

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Know what you could do?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Know what you could do?

Speaker 1 (33:06):
You could send us your school holiday horror stories or
your school holiday survival tips that we could get in
next week's podcast, the next podcast. In a couple of weeks,
voice note us with your school holiday stories and we'll
get them in the next podcast.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
All right, See it seems to you in a couple
of weeks, peas out
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