July 19, 2026 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Monday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Best In the World Beats Best In Sydney, Every Time/Old Guys Sounding Old/Paying for Stars
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said B.
Follow this and our Wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
The Rewrap, the Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
To the Rewrap for Monday, all the best buts from
the myc Asking Breakfast on Newstalk, said B. In a
sillier package, I am Glen Harten. Today the Warriors won,
so might be the year. Winston Peters and Donald Trump
both did speeches that made them sound like cantankerous old
(00:45):
geezers who might be losing it a bit. And then
we find out that we literally paid for at least
one missionline start. But before any of that, Yeah, Ryan Fox,
eh the best in the world today, So that beats
the best in Sydney, I would have thought.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Mike, I questioned why Fox's win would be bigger than
the Warriors winning the NRL. I thought would be on
par at least Murray. These are the great conversations we
have in sport, and this is why sport's the only
thing that unites us anymore at all. No one loves
the Warriors more than I do. But I can tell
you that a regionalish competition in a game of sport
that really isn't global or remotely so, does not in
(01:24):
any way, shape or form, come close to winning a
golfing major. There are some sports in the world that
are truly international. Football is one of them, golfer is another,
Basketball's another, Tennis is another. To win a major in
those sports, as a New Zealander puts you at the
very pinnacle of global sport. And when you look at
(01:45):
it in that context, as much as it pains me
to say, rugby league ain't even close.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And also I mean, I know our win's a win,
but if you watch the game on Siday, and I
sort of watched it at the same time as I
was watching the All Blacks, and there was a similar
kind of a vibe to both those games. Really, they
were both sort of quite bad tempered, messy affairs. The
Warriors ran around like a bunch of hitless chucks a
(02:12):
lot of the time, and we're very lucky with some
refereeing decisions, and I think the same could be said
of the All Blacks. Actually so, but I'm not comparing
either the All Blacks or the or the or the
Warriors with each other. I'm comparing probably both of them
to Ryan Fox. And I think even if the All
Blacks beat South Africa, which I don't think is going
(02:32):
to happen. I think i'd still be becking Ryan Fox
as this sporting moment of the years a rewrap. Anyway,
it's not to say the Warriors aren't gonna win, but
it is pretty much just a Sydney competition.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So here's the next story in our most excellent Warriors
adventure of twenty twenty six. Now you may have noticed
the Panthers. Previously the unbeatable team had been falling apart.
The side that no one could best is being beaten.
I don't know why, it doesn't really matter. What matters
is the gap between them and US is back down
to two points. We of course got our two points
Saturday night against the Dragon side. That was either better
than many thought or a reminder that the NRL is
(03:07):
so tight even the ordinary playing the extraordinary can make
a bit of a game of it all. Anyway, back
to the Panthers, have a look at the clearies. Couple
of weeks back, postgame presser talk about surly and depressed
and things haven't got any better late. Broncos tipped them
up last week and the misery rolls on, which means
now here's the thing, which means, think about this. We
can be minor premiers. We can win the competition and
(03:29):
the whole thing. Seven games to go. One of them
is the mentally fragile Panthers. But apart from that, given
we're a good second on the ladder, every other team
is below us. There is a points differential issue with
the Panthers if we end up tied. But is it
not entirely possible that we can finish the year as
we have traveled the year with a good collection of victories,
possibly one loss along the way, but with the minor
(03:49):
premiership at the end of it. Now two thousand and
two we did that, remember, but that was the Bulldog's year.
So if we do it in twenty twenty six, it
would be one for the record books. We haven't because
we don't need to talk about making the eight. We
haven't because we don't need to talk about making the four.
This is how good this year is and we should
never forget that part of it. And now surely the
(04:10):
premiership is not beyond us, and along with it the
benefits of the time off in the home playoff games
every other year for three decades whenever we're playoff bound.
We're hoping and praying and fingers crossed and wins and
losses and mathematical calculations for other sides. This year we
are the dominant side. We are as good as it gets,
and we just keep winning. Imagine if we won it all,
(04:34):
we won everything, now, that would be our year.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I mean, I suppose you could argue that the Worries
have been trying to do this for an extremely long time.
Does that have any weight? Shouldn't really? Should it? It
doesn't really matter how long you've been trying to win something,
does it right? Over the years Whenston Peter's sort of
been a winner more often than he's been a loser,
I think you could argue, But as his time app
did he really need to talk for as long as
(05:00):
he did yesterday about not much? So?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I watched Peter's speech yesterday, which once again seemed to
go on an awfully long time. It was certainly longer
than a Sunday. I thought I'd better do it. I
better be on top of this, and they've taken an
on and I mate wrap it up. For God's sake.
It's Sunday. I've got things to do anyway, there's one
billion dollars to go mapping some stuff. So first of all,
he's spending money. We don't have to do something that
(05:23):
we don't know the outcome on, because once you've mapped
the territory, it's entirely possible they might come back and
go not as much as we thought, mate, And that's
before you get to the people. Once you've mapped it,
who comes in and does it? Because it's entirely possible
the next government will be labor and they'll ban it
all again. And then they said we're getting the money
from you said the Future Fund. Now I'm open to correction.
(05:44):
I didn't think the Future Fund had started yet. It's
a labor idea, the Future Fund. So what the hell's
he talking about? What's going on here?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah? I'm pretty sure that's generally not the desired effect
from a political speech from some kind of political leader.
It's for people to be at They never going what's
going on here?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
It's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And yet pretty much every time Trump appears these days,
I think more people than not are asking that very
same question. With the war, I was.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Thinking about this over the weekend. You watch the speech.
Watch his speech Friday with the war he doesn't know
how to finish. It seems to me the Trump plan,
given the Iran problem, will reflect badly for him in
the midterms is too. Basically now, Jerry manned the boat
by pretending they've got an emergency. That was largely the
point of Friday's speech, wasn't it, which contained a reissuing
of old material, none of which specifically claimed his famed
(06:34):
twenty twenty were stolen. A couple of polls out over
the weekend have won his approval rating for the war
and the economy down again and to the overall viewer
of personal financial circumstances among Americans at multi year lows.
Americans basically are miserable, and the import prices, by the
way over the weekend as well out of China way
higher than expected, which of course means everything gets more
expensive for those already miserable and adds of course to inflation.
(06:56):
And that's before you get to the thirty year fixed
mortgage rates which came out over the weekend as well.
They're now the mid sixes once again multi year highs
and killing off any summer house buying sentiment. So faced
with all of that, jacking an election would seem the
only way to move forward. Now, whether he can pull
it off will be interesting and worrying, of course, to watch.
You wonder if at some point even the Republicans who
(07:17):
have stayed the course with the increasing amounts of madness
might see it as a bridge too far. Looks increasingly
obvious that America's being run by a dictator, if not
in reality, certainly in his own mind. His whole second
term has been about testing the boundaries of presidential power,
mainly thanks to the Supreme Court, though in a futile fashion,
but the plan appears. You know, you try ten different things,
maybe win two. An emergency around voting will be another
(07:40):
test of the system. Ironically, this should be fertile ground
for the Democrats, but they're busy pulling themselves apart as
they scrap over a progressive madness driven by them and
Dami brigade versus centralism has led by the likes of,
you know, people like Gavin Newsom. But one of the
aforementioned polls only gave them a four point edge on
congressional success. All that madness and corruption in the White
(08:02):
House and you still can't muster a runaway lead for
goodness sake, how how broken does that make the place look?
Which would be fine if this was Poland or Turkey,
but it's America and America counts, which is why we
should all be worried because it can't end well.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah. Interestingly, our boss just got back from holiday in
America and he said he loved it and thought it
was a great place. Mostly that seems to be based
on the fact that he could catch a weay moo
like a driverless taxi to most places he wanted to
go to in LA. That left a good impression on him.
(08:39):
Apparently the rerap right, let's finish up with I thought
this had all been put to bed and we were
moving on, and most people were generally happy about the
fact that, you know, half our restaurants had got Michelin
stars now. But apparently you just as long as you
come up with the money, you'll get one.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
So Project dem was a secret business case. Tourism New
Zealand emphasized the upside scenario. It's what you can't blame
them for. That's you know, you're thinking, as a tourist organization,
you want to create a bit of fizz, So why
wouldn't you accentuate the positive, so to speak. Essentially though
for the initial fee, and we didn't know this previously,
so the government paid six or seven million dollars, but
(09:18):
the initial fee was just short of two million. It
was one point nine million, And essentially it was guaranteed
that at least one star would be handed out to
a restaurant if that fee was paid. So that's different
from what we might have been led to believe. In
other words, good Micheline people would wander freely around the
countryside and review a whole lot of restaurants and if
we were good enough, we might get something. So for
(09:41):
it's a pay to play. Subsequent briefing in August of
twenty twenty five the first Michelin Stars would be awarded
by the end of June and twenty six, so in
other words, they'd already decided they were at handing out stars.
Then the question in this article, which is well worth reading,
how realistic was tourism New Zealand being it pitched thirty
six thousand additional visitors one hundred and eighty five million
(10:01):
extra tourist revenue to the minister. This is Louise Upston
in one of the same briefings. They did also admit that,
in all their bullishness, they had previously missed its targets
for off peak guest nights. Missed the target on the
call marker, credited business as awareness of it's Tiarchi brand,
and also noted the recovery in the youth tourist market
was lagging. So the good talking bullish not necessarily at
(10:23):
being accurate. It's the old treasury equation, so make up
your own mind from it. Because there was some consternation
at the time that there were people everyone we know
has been to a restaurant we had going, jeez, I
tell you what that deserves a Michelin star and you
didn't get it. Why not? We'll never know. Because Michelin
don't talk. You can argue that it was nothing more
(10:43):
than a pr exercise, and good on us for doing it.
It got some hype, it got some noise, it got
some bookings. It may well get some tourists here. Therefore
it was worth it. But the article itself does give
you an insight into how these things work that we
previously didn't know, and I found it moderately interesting. So
that's on the news room site.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I like how sort of Jane's Bondie project m sounds,
and that makes me I want to hear that little
and the music when I walk into one of these restaurants.
Now that you'll have to make sure that you you know,
you have a seat facing the door in case somebody
comes in with a gun. Yeah, I guess I'm I'm
(11:28):
more interested in action stars than Michelin stars. I suppose
one thing that's come out of all this michel and
stuff is that I'm pretty sure I know how to
spell Michelin. Now have I said that already? That's the
one thing that every time I type it out, I go,
Is that right? Anyway? That was the rewrap. I'm just
(11:49):
waiting to see if Spain are going to score off
this this penalty kick well foul kick, oul kick, free
kick after seven minutes of time added on or with
this game will go into extra time. But that could
tack all day. So I'll let you go and we'll
come back tomorrow after somebody's won.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It the rerap. For more from News Talks at b
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from news Talk, said B.
Follow this and our Wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio,
The Rewrap, the Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
To the Rewrap for Monday, all the best buts from
the myc Asking Breakfast on Newstalk, said B. In a
sillier package, I am Glen Harten. Today the Warriors won,
so might be the year. Winston Peters and Donald Trump
both did speeches that made them sound like cantankerous old
(00:45):
geezers who might be losing it a bit. And then
we find out that we literally paid for at least
one missionline start. But before any of that, Yeah, Ryan Fox,
eh the best in the world today, So that beats
the best in Sydney, I would have thought.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Mike, I questioned why Fox's win would be bigger than
the Warriors winning the NRL. I thought would be on
par at least Murray. These are the great conversations we
have in sport, and this is why sport's the only
thing that unites us anymore at all. No one loves
the Warriors more than I do. But I can tell
you that a regionalish competition in a game of sport
that really isn't global or remotely so, does not in
(01:24):
any way, shape or form, come close to winning a
golfing major. There are some sports in the world that
are truly international. Football is one of them, golfer is another,
Basketball's another, Tennis is another. To win a major in
those sports, as a New Zealander puts you at the
very pinnacle of global sport. And when you look at
(01:45):
it in that context, as much as it pains me
to say, rugby league ain't even close.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
And also I mean, I know our win's a win,
but if you watch the game on Siday, and I
sort of watched it at the same time as I
was watching the All Blacks, and there was a similar
kind of a vibe to both those games. Really, they
were both sort of quite bad tempered, messy affairs. The
Warriors ran around like a bunch of hitless chucks a
(02:12):
lot of the time, and we're very lucky with some
refereeing decisions, and I think the same could be said
of the All Blacks. Actually so, but I'm not comparing
either the All Blacks or the or the or the
Warriors with each other. I'm comparing probably both of them
to Ryan Fox. And I think even if the All
Blacks beat South Africa, which I don't think is going
(02:32):
to happen. I think i'd still be becking Ryan Fox
as this sporting moment of the years a rewrap. Anyway,
it's not to say the Warriors aren't gonna win, but
it is pretty much just a Sydney competition.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So here's the next story in our most excellent Warriors
adventure of twenty twenty six. Now you may have noticed
the Panthers. Previously the unbeatable team had been falling apart.
The side that no one could best is being beaten.
I don't know why, it doesn't really matter. What matters
is the gap between them and US is back down
to two points. We of course got our two points
Saturday night against the Dragon side. That was either better
than many thought or a reminder that the NRL is
(03:07):
so tight even the ordinary playing the extraordinary can make
a bit of a game of it all. Anyway, back
to the Panthers, have a look at the clearies. Couple
of weeks back, postgame presser talk about surly and depressed
and things haven't got any better late. Broncos tipped them
up last week and the misery rolls on, which means
now here's the thing, which means, think about this. We
can be minor premiers. We can win the competition and
(03:29):
the whole thing. Seven games to go. One of them
is the mentally fragile Panthers. But apart from that, given
we're a good second on the ladder, every other team
is below us. There is a points differential issue with
the Panthers if we end up tied. But is it
not entirely possible that we can finish the year as
we have traveled the year with a good collection of victories,
possibly one loss along the way, but with the minor
(03:49):
premiership at the end of it. Now two thousand and
two we did that, remember, but that was the Bulldog's year.
So if we do it in twenty twenty six, it
would be one for the record books. We haven't because
we don't need to talk about making the eight. We
haven't because we don't need to talk about making the four.
This is how good this year is and we should
never forget that part of it. And now surely the
(04:10):
premiership is not beyond us, and along with it the
benefits of the time off in the home playoff games
every other year for three decades whenever we're playoff bound.
We're hoping and praying and fingers crossed and wins and
losses and mathematical calculations for other sides. This year we
are the dominant side. We are as good as it gets,
and we just keep winning. Imagine if we won it all,
(04:34):
we won everything, now, that would be our year.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I mean, I suppose you could argue that the Worries
have been trying to do this for an extremely long time.
Does that have any weight? Shouldn't really? Should it? It
doesn't really matter how long you've been trying to win something,
does it right? Over the years Whenston Peter's sort of
been a winner more often than he's been a loser,
I think you could argue, But as his time app
did he really need to talk for as long as
(05:00):
he did yesterday about not much? So?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I watched Peter's speech yesterday, which once again seemed to
go on an awfully long time. It was certainly longer
than a Sunday. I thought I'd better do it. I
better be on top of this, and they've taken an
on and I mate wrap it up. For God's sake.
It's Sunday. I've got things to do anyway, there's one
billion dollars to go mapping some stuff. So first of all,
he's spending money. We don't have to do something that
(05:23):
we don't know the outcome on, because once you've mapped
the territory, it's entirely possible they might come back and
go not as much as we thought, mate, And that's
before you get to the people. Once you've mapped it,
who comes in and does it? Because it's entirely possible
the next government will be labor and they'll ban it
all again. And then they said we're getting the money
from you said the Future Fund. Now I'm open to correction.
(05:44):
I didn't think the Future Fund had started yet. It's
a labor idea, the Future Fund. So what the hell's
he talking about? What's going on here?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah? I'm pretty sure that's generally not the desired effect
from a political speech from some kind of political leader.
It's for people to be at They never going what's
going on here?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
It's the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
And yet pretty much every time Trump appears these days,
I think more people than not are asking that very
same question. With the war, I was.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Thinking about this over the weekend. You watch the speech.
Watch his speech Friday with the war he doesn't know
how to finish. It seems to me the Trump plan,
given the Iran problem, will reflect badly for him in
the midterms is too. Basically now, Jerry manned the boat
by pretending they've got an emergency. That was largely the
point of Friday's speech, wasn't it, which contained a reissuing
of old material, none of which specifically claimed his famed
(06:34):
twenty twenty were stolen. A couple of polls out over
the weekend have won his approval rating for the war
and the economy down again and to the overall viewer
of personal financial circumstances among Americans at multi year lows.
Americans basically are miserable, and the import prices, by the
way over the weekend as well out of China way
higher than expected, which of course means everything gets more
expensive for those already miserable and adds of course to inflation.
(06:56):
And that's before you get to the thirty year fixed
mortgage rates which came out over the weekend as well.
They're now the mid sixes once again multi year highs
and killing off any summer house buying sentiment. So faced
with all of that, jacking an election would seem the
only way to move forward. Now, whether he can pull
it off will be interesting and worrying, of course, to watch.
You wonder if at some point even the Republicans who
(07:17):
have stayed the course with the increasing amounts of madness
might see it as a bridge too far. Looks increasingly
obvious that America's being run by a dictator, if not
in reality, certainly in his own mind. His whole second
term has been about testing the boundaries of presidential power,
mainly thanks to the Supreme Court, though in a futile fashion,
but the plan appears. You know, you try ten different things,
maybe win two. An emergency around voting will be another
(07:40):
test of the system. Ironically, this should be fertile ground
for the Democrats, but they're busy pulling themselves apart as
they scrap over a progressive madness driven by them and
Dami brigade versus centralism has led by the likes of,
you know, people like Gavin Newsom. But one of the
aforementioned polls only gave them a four point edge on
congressional success. All that madness and corruption in the White
(08:02):
House and you still can't muster a runaway lead for
goodness sake, how how broken does that make the place look?
Which would be fine if this was Poland or Turkey,
but it's America and America counts, which is why we
should all be worried because it can't end well.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah. Interestingly, our boss just got back from holiday in
America and he said he loved it and thought it
was a great place. Mostly that seems to be based
on the fact that he could catch a weay moo
like a driverless taxi to most places he wanted to
go to in LA. That left a good impression on him.
(08:39):
Apparently the rerap right, let's finish up with I thought
this had all been put to bed and we were
moving on, and most people were generally happy about the
fact that, you know, half our restaurants had got Michelin
stars now. But apparently you just as long as you
come up with the money, you'll get one.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
So Project dem was a secret business case. Tourism New
Zealand emphasized the upside scenario. It's what you can't blame
them for. That's you know, you're thinking, as a tourist organization,
you want to create a bit of fizz, So why
wouldn't you accentuate the positive, so to speak. Essentially though
for the initial fee, and we didn't know this previously,
so the government paid six or seven million dollars, but
(09:18):
the initial fee was just short of two million. It
was one point nine million, And essentially it was guaranteed
that at least one star would be handed out to
a restaurant if that fee was paid. So that's different
from what we might have been led to believe. In
other words, good Micheline people would wander freely around the
countryside and review a whole lot of restaurants and if
we were good enough, we might get something. So for
(09:41):
it's a pay to play. Subsequent briefing in August of
twenty twenty five the first Michelin Stars would be awarded
by the end of June and twenty six, so in
other words, they'd already decided they were at handing out stars.
Then the question in this article, which is well worth reading,
how realistic was tourism New Zealand being it pitched thirty
six thousand additional visitors one hundred and eighty five million
(10:01):
extra tourist revenue to the minister. This is Louise Upston
in one of the same briefings. They did also admit that,
in all their bullishness, they had previously missed its targets
for off peak guest nights. Missed the target on the
call marker, credited business as awareness of it's Tiarchi brand,
and also noted the recovery in the youth tourist market
was lagging. So the good talking bullish not necessarily at
(10:23):
being accurate. It's the old treasury equation, so make up
your own mind from it. Because there was some consternation
at the time that there were people everyone we know
has been to a restaurant we had going, jeez, I
tell you what that deserves a Michelin star and you
didn't get it. Why not? We'll never know. Because Michelin
don't talk. You can argue that it was nothing more
(10:43):
than a pr exercise, and good on us for doing it.
It got some hype, it got some noise, it got
some bookings. It may well get some tourists here. Therefore
it was worth it. But the article itself does give
you an insight into how these things work that we
previously didn't know, and I found it moderately interesting. So
that's on the news room site.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I like how sort of Jane's Bondie project m sounds,
and that makes me I want to hear that little
and the music when I walk into one of these restaurants.
Now that you'll have to make sure that you you know,
you have a seat facing the door in case somebody
comes in with a gun. Yeah, I guess I'm I'm
(11:28):
more interested in action stars than Michelin stars. I suppose
one thing that's come out of all this michel and
stuff is that I'm pretty sure I know how to
spell Michelin. Now have I said that already? That's the
one thing that every time I type it out, I go,
Is that right? Anyway? That was the rewrap. I'm just
(11:49):
waiting to see if Spain are going to score off
this this penalty kick well foul kick, oul kick, free
kick after seven minutes of time added on or with
this game will go into extra time. But that could
tack all day. So I'll let you go and we'll
come back tomorrow after somebody's won.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
It the rerap. For more from News Talks at b
Listen live on air or online, and keep our shows
with you wherever you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio.
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