November 27, 2025 • 13 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Friday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Work Hard. Get Paid/Mark the Week/Fish Is Getting Cheaper/Must Miss Movies/The Usual Courier Chaos
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
The Rewrap There.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And welcome to the Rewrap for Friday, all the best
bits from the mic asking Breakfast in a Silia package.
I am Glen Hart and this morning it's Friday, so
I think we shall mark the week. We've got to
get him too red meat because once again, but that's
(00:50):
going well. I'm not sure how much of that they'll
be having for Thanksgiving today in the States or off. Indeed,
they'll be going to the movies, and we've got the
usual Christmas courier chaosk before any of that. Naylor Loves
doing well, even though Construction's struggling.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Simple question with seemingly no simple answer, why aren't more
people excellent? Nayla Love reported this week that they are
cracking the one billion dollar revenue mark. They're an old
company that's never cracked a billion dollars before, Nayla Love,
or in construction. Of course, Construction is apparently having or
has had a hell of a time of it lately.
So how is it a business in a tough sector
can be so outstandingly successful? They put it down to
(01:28):
being good at complex projects. They do those well, the
reputation grows, the word of mouth spreads, and so it goes.
The other day I discovered a coffee roaster made by
a company called Cafe Logic. Their machine is made in
New Zealand. Now, the sadness is they are one of
only a handful left that produce appliances of any sort
in this country. The thing is their machine is well classed.
The bulk of professionals who enter roasting competitions use that machine.
(01:52):
So what that means is we can produce appliances but
don't Mostly that'll be a price related thing. But like
wine or beef or sheep or kiwi fruit or salmon,
there seems to be there is nothing stopping us producing
in small numbers if it's at the top end quality.
In the other words, the same way there's nothing stopping
Nyla Love booming in an industry that isn't booming. The
same way I can name you any number of restaurants
(02:12):
and cafes that are doing very nicely, thank you, in
a sector that, according to the press releases, is in
a world of trouble. The same way as we heard
just this week that despite all the job market downturns
and tough times, at no time did it get any
easier to find great talent. No shortage of people, just
a shortage of excellence. There seems a pattern here, don't
you think? It seems a truism that no matter what
(02:33):
you are surrounded by, no matter what the circumstances, excellence
will always shine and do well. That if you are
good or dore we suggest, excellent at what you do,
there is always a place for you, not just to participate,
but to succeed and excel. And while those around you
flounder and complain and blame their lot, excellence is your
ticket to wherever it is that you want to go.
But don't tell anyone Heaven forbid. It catches on.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, you know, I can't argue with that. I think
Mike's right. If you want to be good, if you
want to be excellent, if you set high standards for yourself,
how good things will come your way. If, on the
other hand, you do terrible customer service, you'll end up
being talked about on this podcast, as you will be
at the end of this one today. The rewrap right,
(03:17):
So Black Friday A It's a Friday, so we'll still
back the week.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
What time now to make the week little piece of
news and current events that is as exciting as getting
twenty two percent of something you don't need on Black Friday.
Education eight Maths trial results this week retangible example of
the simple truth that if you concentrate on something and
work hard, you will win. Are the media and the
Maths trial three a further nail and the increasingly battered
(03:43):
coffin of credibility as they pretty much ignore the whole story?
Are the All Black six se rated better than the
critics seem to suggest? Rugby has changed, but the attitude
on expectation and winning hasn't. This isn't nineteen eighty six,
Nayla Larve eight Booming in an industry that isn't in
That is a story of excellence and determination and a
lesson for anyone who wants to actually learn it. McLaren seven.
(04:07):
In one season you thought was over, it ain't over.
Regional Council's eight bold call, good call. Well we'll be
better off for the call. Ginny Anderson in Steak six.
It was delicious and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Worth a good red wine.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Who had her down as a surreptitious food. Nickaray the
ocr seven. I mean we got there in the end,
Actually did we get there in the end? Fingers crossed,
job ads eight up and significantly up. Green Shoots, Green shirts,
Green shoots are all fair? Six got a second season?
Who lose biggest hit in the years. No, it's not
our a laur or Shit's Creek or friends or Landman.
(04:45):
But the snobbery blinded too many of the so called critics.
If you haven't seen it, give it ago. Rachel Reeves too.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I know how worried families are about the cost of everything.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Have a look at her work on taxes and ask
yourself how far removed Barbara Edmonds's or isn't speaking of labor?
Michael Woods three? I mean, honestly, people who can't stay away,
they've got a whiff about them, don't they surrender by Thursday?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Four?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I'm not like those other politicians, I guess in many ways.
I mean, it wasn't that yet another hair brain thought
bubblah by bloke who looks increasingly either unhinged or tired
or rolled or mad or possibly all of those things.
The New Zealand Rural Game seven. Some of the best
news of the week, The Dog Show back on Telly.
I mean, come on, full circle moment past the k bars.
Now that's the week, copies on the website and like
(05:29):
all marking the weeks, this received an A from Auckland University.
But then doesn't everything.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But terrible confession to make. It was my solemn intent
to look up the Dog Show theme music and play
it when he took that Dog Show there, and then
I completely forgot to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I could.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I realized my mistake as we were doing Mark the Week,
and I briefly considered could I look it up and
just play it in live? And I thought too risky.
I might end up taking the entire show off here,
so I left it. But just pretend that that's what
(06:11):
you heard, and that it was the icing on your
normal Mark the Week cake. You know what goes well
with a mark a weak cake? Red meat.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Just to return to the beef situation, so yes, I'm
reading a fascinating number. The good thing about inflation and food,
as far as I can work out as this and
I didn't realize this, is that McDonald's used six thousand
tons of locally sourced beef in this country globally they
serve seventy million people a day with beef two percent
of the world's beef as used at McDonald's, which I
thought was a semi fun fact. Anyway, beef mints is
(06:43):
up eighteen percent. So the overall food prices last number
we got with four point seven. The good news around
that is originally it was five and then it's gone
down to four point seven, So still up, but not
up by as much. But the average case of beef
is up eighteen percent. Now that is a direct result
of globally, yes, but particularly America. So an answer to
(07:03):
the texts question earlier on am I going to be
paying more for my beef? Yes, you are, and the
on beef mints anyway, it's eighteen percent. But here's the
good news. I mean, you might not see it as
good news, but you don't have to eat beef the
same way you don't have to eat butter, and that's
for inflationary purposes. Good news for you because you don't
have to buy the things that are more expensive. You
can buy the things that are actually a bit cheaper.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
That I was going to say that the good news
about that is that I found that with both chicken
and beef getting more and more expensive suddenly, seafood and fish.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Sea if it looks good, it seems cheap. Airs salmon isn't.
Because I got an alert the other day from somebody
we deal with in the salmon department. They're having trouble
with salmon at the moment in terms of supply, and
therefore the price of salmon has gone through the roof.
And Katie was reporting to me the other day she's
on after rates. I'll tell you specifically what it was,
but it was something like seventy nine or eighty dollars
a kilo, which makes it more expensive then I fill it.
(07:56):
At the moment, it makes I feel it look cheap.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Quite literally, I've been buying Gernard philets and snapper filets
and Tarokey filets because it's cheaper to do a fish
meal then even mints. I've actually been told I've got
to go and buy mints today because Jemesi manager wants
to make your famous wrestoles for our guest tomorrow night.
(08:18):
Maybe I can get the fake mins. That's probably cheaper
as well.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Now the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right, So Thanksgiving? Eh? Is it the time to go
to the movies over this weekend if you're in the US,
maybe Movie time.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
By the way, Thanksgiving big big box office in the States.
I mean it's not literally a big box office because
no one goes to the movies anymore. But they hope
for good things Zotopia. iiO they reckon one thirty five
to one fifty for the Thanksgiving weekend. I mean, it
obviously hasn't happened. That's their anticipation. Wicked for good they
think is going to add another one hundred million. The
record is four hundred and twenty four million. This year
(08:55):
is going to get nowhere near it, unfortunately, which once
again sort of confirms that in a way, the movies
ain't what they used to be.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Zootopia, they're expecting big things from Zootopia two. I never
even heard of z Utopia. I didn't know there was
a Zutopia one. I hope, not expecting me to go
and see a sequel to something that I didn't even
know existed in the first place. I miss I misshard Mike,
and I heard him say they're expecting big things Zutopia
(09:28):
and he ran it because he ran it together. I
thought he said Utopia, and I'm looking at I'm trying
to look up a movie called Utopia. Yeah, he just
figure out what he actually said. I'm so out attacked.
The re rap right as promised.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You want some terrible customer service. Well, unfortunately, I don't
think Mike's going to name names.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Katie was in them all all the other day and
she said she couldn't believe the number of people. So
they're all wandering They're either all wandering around with bubble
tea or they're actually buying things. Mike, I think the
mood was changed last night. I went to k Mart
but tony eight point thirty, expecting a few to be there.
It was packed, trolley's full, et cetera, et cetera. Can
I just say, and this is another insight into what
(10:10):
I was trying to say at the beginning of the program,
Renailer Love and Construction. We dealt with the company yesterday,
Career Company. I'm not going to name them. Under different circumstances,
I might, but I'm in a good mood because it's Christmas. Anyway.
They're bloody useless. They're honestly so. We were expecting something
on Monday and they said to be there Monday Tuesday
at the outside Thursday, of course, nothing to be seen.
(10:30):
And they ring up and go, you know, and we
needed it because we got people that are involved in it,
et cetera, et cetera. And they said, look, we will
do our best by five pm fri our Thursday. And
we said, well can you you know? Is that true?
And they go, well, yeah, it might be, it might
not be. And then they got all crappy with this
and they said, well, look it's busy. It's peak season.
And I thought, that's not a surprise, mate. It's peak
(10:52):
season at Christmas every time. And one of the good
things about peak season if you're on the business of
transporting stuff, might just be you're doing more business. So
how about you employ some people and get some vans
and expand to meet the market. Bloody hell, how hard
can it be?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So he hasn't said who it was there. I mean,
there are only so many courier firms, aren't there. And
the problem is, I don't know that I've actually had
exceptional service from any of them. Some of the sort
of the more boutiquey like express courier services that we
have here in Auckland, they seem to do quite a
good job. Deadline is a good one, but they are
(11:34):
pretty bad. And I think because they are all bad,
none of them have to actually be good, because they've
all just decided to be bad. It's the same with
Telco's phone shops. I was in a phone shop yesterday,
and I can't tell you too much of the details
of it because then you'll figure out who it is
that I'm talking about, and I don't. I actually think
it was just this particular shop. I don't think it's
the whole brand that let themselves down. But I just
(11:58):
wanted to change ess from one phone to another because
I review phones, so I changed phones quite often, and
I've done it several times before. And the guy wanted
to charge me five dollars for it, which they've never
charged me five dollars for it before. And I said, hey, no,
you've never charged me for this before, so you can't
just start doing that now. And he said, well, everybody
(12:19):
else does, and I said no, they don't. In fact,
the other company that I was with before this, I
didn't have to come into the shop to change the
ESUM from one phone to another. I could just do
it all myself online and then to top it all off.
They didn't have any they didn't have any esoms. How
can you not have anything of a thing that doesn't
(12:43):
actually exist? It's not real. It's just e anyway, neary
Christmas everyone. We head towards December. It'll be December when
we see you. Would get on Monday with another rewrap.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
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air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever
you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
The Rewrap There.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And welcome to the Rewrap for Friday, all the best
bits from the mic asking Breakfast in a Silia package.
I am Glen Hart and this morning it's Friday, so
I think we shall mark the week. We've got to
get him too red meat because once again, but that's
(00:50):
going well. I'm not sure how much of that they'll
be having for Thanksgiving today in the States or off. Indeed,
they'll be going to the movies, and we've got the
usual Christmas courier chaosk before any of that. Naylor Loves
doing well, even though Construction's struggling.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Simple question with seemingly no simple answer, why aren't more
people excellent? Nayla Love reported this week that they are
cracking the one billion dollar revenue mark. They're an old
company that's never cracked a billion dollars before, Nayla Love,
or in construction. Of course, Construction is apparently having or
has had a hell of a time of it lately.
So how is it a business in a tough sector
can be so outstandingly successful? They put it down to
(01:28):
being good at complex projects. They do those well, the
reputation grows, the word of mouth spreads, and so it goes.
The other day I discovered a coffee roaster made by
a company called Cafe Logic. Their machine is made in
New Zealand. Now, the sadness is they are one of
only a handful left that produce appliances of any sort
in this country. The thing is their machine is well classed.
The bulk of professionals who enter roasting competitions use that machine.
(01:52):
So what that means is we can produce appliances but
don't Mostly that'll be a price related thing. But like
wine or beef or sheep or kiwi fruit or salmon,
there seems to be there is nothing stopping us producing
in small numbers if it's at the top end quality.
In the other words, the same way there's nothing stopping
Nyla Love booming in an industry that isn't booming. The
same way I can name you any number of restaurants
(02:12):
and cafes that are doing very nicely, thank you, in
a sector that, according to the press releases, is in
a world of trouble. The same way as we heard
just this week that despite all the job market downturns
and tough times, at no time did it get any
easier to find great talent. No shortage of people, just
a shortage of excellence. There seems a pattern here, don't
you think? It seems a truism that no matter what
(02:33):
you are surrounded by, no matter what the circumstances, excellence
will always shine and do well. That if you are
good or dore we suggest, excellent at what you do,
there is always a place for you, not just to participate,
but to succeed and excel. And while those around you
flounder and complain and blame their lot, excellence is your
ticket to wherever it is that you want to go.
But don't tell anyone Heaven forbid. It catches on.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, you know, I can't argue with that. I think
Mike's right. If you want to be good, if you
want to be excellent, if you set high standards for yourself,
how good things will come your way. If, on the
other hand, you do terrible customer service, you'll end up
being talked about on this podcast, as you will be
at the end of this one today. The rewrap right,
(03:17):
So Black Friday A It's a Friday, so we'll still
back the week.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
What time now to make the week little piece of
news and current events that is as exciting as getting
twenty two percent of something you don't need on Black Friday.
Education eight Maths trial results this week retangible example of
the simple truth that if you concentrate on something and
work hard, you will win. Are the media and the
Maths trial three a further nail and the increasingly battered
(03:43):
coffin of credibility as they pretty much ignore the whole story?
Are the All Black six se rated better than the
critics seem to suggest? Rugby has changed, but the attitude
on expectation and winning hasn't. This isn't nineteen eighty six,
Nayla Larve eight Booming in an industry that isn't in
That is a story of excellence and determination and a
lesson for anyone who wants to actually learn it. McLaren seven.
(04:07):
In one season you thought was over, it ain't over.
Regional Council's eight bold call, good call. Well we'll be
better off for the call. Ginny Anderson in Steak six.
It was delicious and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Worth a good red wine.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Who had her down as a surreptitious food. Nickaray the
ocr seven. I mean we got there in the end,
Actually did we get there in the end? Fingers crossed,
job ads eight up and significantly up. Green Shoots, Green shirts,
Green shoots are all fair? Six got a second season?
Who lose biggest hit in the years. No, it's not
our a laur or Shit's Creek or friends or Landman.
(04:45):
But the snobbery blinded too many of the so called critics.
If you haven't seen it, give it ago. Rachel Reeves too.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I know how worried families are about the cost of everything.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Have a look at her work on taxes and ask
yourself how far removed Barbara Edmonds's or isn't speaking of labor?
Michael Woods three? I mean, honestly, people who can't stay away,
they've got a whiff about them, don't they surrender by Thursday?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Four?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I'm not like those other politicians, I guess in many ways.
I mean, it wasn't that yet another hair brain thought
bubblah by bloke who looks increasingly either unhinged or tired
or rolled or mad or possibly all of those things.
The New Zealand Rural Game seven. Some of the best
news of the week, The Dog Show back on Telly.
I mean, come on, full circle moment past the k bars.
Now that's the week, copies on the website and like
(05:29):
all marking the weeks, this received an A from Auckland University.
But then doesn't everything.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
But terrible confession to make. It was my solemn intent
to look up the Dog Show theme music and play
it when he took that Dog Show there, and then
I completely forgot to do it.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I could.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
I realized my mistake as we were doing Mark the Week,
and I briefly considered could I look it up and
just play it in live? And I thought too risky.
I might end up taking the entire show off here,
so I left it. But just pretend that that's what
(06:11):
you heard, and that it was the icing on your
normal Mark the Week cake. You know what goes well
with a mark a weak cake? Red meat.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Just to return to the beef situation, so yes, I'm
reading a fascinating number. The good thing about inflation and food,
as far as I can work out as this and
I didn't realize this, is that McDonald's used six thousand
tons of locally sourced beef in this country globally they
serve seventy million people a day with beef two percent
of the world's beef as used at McDonald's, which I
thought was a semi fun fact. Anyway, beef mints is
(06:43):
up eighteen percent. So the overall food prices last number
we got with four point seven. The good news around
that is originally it was five and then it's gone
down to four point seven, So still up, but not
up by as much. But the average case of beef
is up eighteen percent. Now that is a direct result
of globally, yes, but particularly America. So an answer to
(07:03):
the texts question earlier on am I going to be
paying more for my beef? Yes, you are, and the
on beef mints anyway, it's eighteen percent. But here's the
good news. I mean, you might not see it as
good news, but you don't have to eat beef the
same way you don't have to eat butter, and that's
for inflationary purposes. Good news for you because you don't
have to buy the things that are more expensive. You
can buy the things that are actually a bit cheaper.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
That I was going to say that the good news
about that is that I found that with both chicken
and beef getting more and more expensive suddenly, seafood and fish.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Sea if it looks good, it seems cheap. Airs salmon isn't.
Because I got an alert the other day from somebody
we deal with in the salmon department. They're having trouble
with salmon at the moment in terms of supply, and
therefore the price of salmon has gone through the roof.
And Katie was reporting to me the other day she's
on after rates. I'll tell you specifically what it was,
but it was something like seventy nine or eighty dollars
a kilo, which makes it more expensive then I fill it.
(07:56):
At the moment, it makes I feel it look cheap.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Quite literally, I've been buying Gernard philets and snapper filets
and Tarokey filets because it's cheaper to do a fish
meal then even mints. I've actually been told I've got
to go and buy mints today because Jemesi manager wants
to make your famous wrestoles for our guest tomorrow night.
(08:18):
Maybe I can get the fake mins. That's probably cheaper
as well.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Now the rewrap.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Right, So Thanksgiving? Eh? Is it the time to go
to the movies over this weekend if you're in the US,
maybe Movie time.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
By the way, Thanksgiving big big box office in the States.
I mean it's not literally a big box office because
no one goes to the movies anymore. But they hope
for good things Zotopia. iiO they reckon one thirty five
to one fifty for the Thanksgiving weekend. I mean, it
obviously hasn't happened. That's their anticipation. Wicked for good they
think is going to add another one hundred million. The
record is four hundred and twenty four million. This year
(08:55):
is going to get nowhere near it, unfortunately, which once
again sort of confirms that in a way, the movies
ain't what they used to be.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Zootopia, they're expecting big things from Zootopia two. I never
even heard of z Utopia. I didn't know there was
a Zutopia one. I hope, not expecting me to go
and see a sequel to something that I didn't even
know existed in the first place. I miss I misshard Mike,
and I heard him say they're expecting big things Zutopia
(09:28):
and he ran it because he ran it together. I
thought he said Utopia, and I'm looking at I'm trying
to look up a movie called Utopia. Yeah, he just
figure out what he actually said. I'm so out attacked.
The re rap right as promised.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Terrible.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
You want some terrible customer service. Well, unfortunately, I don't
think Mike's going to name names.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Katie was in them all all the other day and
she said she couldn't believe the number of people. So
they're all wandering They're either all wandering around with bubble
tea or they're actually buying things. Mike, I think the
mood was changed last night. I went to k Mart
but tony eight point thirty, expecting a few to be there.
It was packed, trolley's full, et cetera, et cetera. Can
I just say, and this is another insight into what
(10:10):
I was trying to say at the beginning of the program,
Renailer Love and Construction. We dealt with the company yesterday,
Career Company. I'm not going to name them. Under different circumstances,
I might, but I'm in a good mood because it's Christmas. Anyway.
They're bloody useless. They're honestly so. We were expecting something
on Monday and they said to be there Monday Tuesday
at the outside Thursday, of course, nothing to be seen.
(10:30):
And they ring up and go, you know, and we
needed it because we got people that are involved in it,
et cetera, et cetera. And they said, look, we will
do our best by five pm fri our Thursday. And
we said, well can you you know? Is that true?
And they go, well, yeah, it might be, it might
not be. And then they got all crappy with this
and they said, well, look it's busy. It's peak season.
And I thought, that's not a surprise, mate. It's peak
(10:52):
season at Christmas every time. And one of the good
things about peak season if you're on the business of
transporting stuff, might just be you're doing more business. So
how about you employ some people and get some vans
and expand to meet the market. Bloody hell, how hard
can it be?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
So he hasn't said who it was there. I mean,
there are only so many courier firms, aren't there. And
the problem is, I don't know that I've actually had
exceptional service from any of them. Some of the sort
of the more boutiquey like express courier services that we
have here in Auckland, they seem to do quite a
good job. Deadline is a good one, but they are
(11:34):
pretty bad. And I think because they are all bad,
none of them have to actually be good, because they've
all just decided to be bad. It's the same with
Telco's phone shops. I was in a phone shop yesterday,
and I can't tell you too much of the details
of it because then you'll figure out who it is
that I'm talking about, and I don't. I actually think
it was just this particular shop. I don't think it's
the whole brand that let themselves down. But I just
(11:58):
wanted to change ess from one phone to another because
I review phones, so I changed phones quite often, and
I've done it several times before. And the guy wanted
to charge me five dollars for it, which they've never
charged me five dollars for it before. And I said, hey, no,
you've never charged me for this before, so you can't
just start doing that now. And he said, well, everybody
(12:19):
else does, and I said no, they don't. In fact,
the other company that I was with before this, I
didn't have to come into the shop to change the
ESUM from one phone to another. I could just do
it all myself online and then to top it all off.
They didn't have any they didn't have any esoms. How
can you not have anything of a thing that doesn't
(12:43):
actually exist? It's not real. It's just e anyway, neary
Christmas everyone. We head towards December. It'll be December when
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