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THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Monday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) These Are Not the Sourdough Times of the Past
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrapoday there and welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All
the best but's from the my Casking Breakfast on Newstalk, said,
be in a sillier package, I am Glen harton today.
It's just going to be all about the fuel shortage
because basically that's all anybody seems to want to talk
about at the moment. So I'm gonna let you have
this podcast. You people who that's all you want to do.
(00:46):
Let's start off with, you know, obviously, the reason that
all this is happening.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Anthony Albanezi reminded all Australian's he's of the labor left
yesterday by endorsing free public transport even though it's not
his decision to endorse, and by announcing cuts to fuel
tax for three months. He also wanted more clarity around
war goals from the US President Will in part he
might have got them. Trump talked to the Financial Times.
I thought, unhelpfully, they might take carg Island. They might not.
(01:12):
That is the troops on the ground scenario people keep
talking about. It's got a Venezuela vibe about it. But Iran,
of course, is not Venezuela, and Iran is not about
grabbing the leader, installing the deputy, and collecting the oil
and sending it to Houston. Or is it Is it
possible they've killed enough of the old regime? Trump claimed
the so called new leader's gone. His words, not mine.
We certainly haven't heard from them or even seen them.
(01:34):
The exiled Prince Pilarbi over the weekend told conservatives, when
the time is right, he will give the word on
the uprising. So could the Americans grab the oil, install
the prince, get a cease fire in its high fives
all round? The administration keep insisting this is four to
six weeks. They have not adjusted that. They have not
walked it back. Ask yourself why Trump has the China
meeting set he as the world cap and event you
(01:55):
don't want to host in the middle of a war.
What he did say to the ft specifically to help Albaneasi,
is they have about three thousand targets left. So far
they've got thirteen thousand. So once again, do the math.
Thirteen thousand and four weeks is about three thousand A
weeks who more weeks should do it. Also, you can't
forget the markets. They're bleeding. The sell off is on,
interest rates are up, Recession fears arising, the poles are tanking.
(02:16):
The world is a combination of fearful and angry Americans
will punish all of this in November. If it isn't
a distant victorious memory. None of this ever has been
lost of course on the administration. Look also to the Israelis.
It's like that hit the turbo button on Lebanon. It's
all on why because they've been given the word time
is fast coming to an end. There is I think
enough there to still draw a reasonably confident conclusion that
(02:39):
roughly this is going to a plan. The plan, within
a margin, was always four to six weeks. At times
it's looked a bit wobbly, and indeed overnight the outburst
yet again about blowing up oil indicates trouble. You can
only threaten to do the same thing over and over
again before it no longer gets taken seriously. But for
those and there are quite a few desperate to paint
this as some sort of wayward mess, I would still
(03:00):
argue they will be proven wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So yeah, just kick your head down, maybe even put
your head the sand, and then pop out. And six
months or so and was he see what's going on then?
And hopefully you don't have to fill out your car
too many times in the meantime, So rewrap. I think
Mike thinks that the government's not doing such a bad
(03:24):
job of insulating us as much as they can from
the fuel crisis.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
From our don't waste a crisis file. Is it possible
as government's handling thus far of oil events might well
see them rewarded with an increased level of supporters the
election draws closer. Initial reaction think about this, when the
war broke out and oil went up was twofold right
one around the economy, the rebound, the resurgence that we
had seen may well be yet again off as Nick
was telling us a moment ago, and then two ah,
(03:53):
the poor government worked their butts off, trim the budget,
change the laws, got rid of the mess. At last
was seeing the fruits of the labor and bang epic fury.
Next question so far unanswered here is will the government
of the day take the political heat because of the
cost of living being up up even though it's none
of their fault. Partial answer comes to us from Australia
and their polling, and that answer is no, the war
(04:15):
and its associated economic artworkings falls entirely on America. In fact,
polling in America shows the same thing. This is on Trump.
As I said last week, New Zealand versus Australia, in
terms of messaging and organization and reaction and action, it's
not even a contest. Australia is a hot mess of confusion,
claim and counterclaim in a growing bitch session between the
state and Canberra. Here it would seem close to faultless. Now,
(04:37):
for those upset over the lack of free money so far,
you might not agree with it, but you can't blame
the messaging or say it hasn't been explained to you.
Yesterday's llenng explanation from the Prime Minster on this program,
for example, you said it either stacks up for it doesn't.
And that's what we desperately need more of. Not ideology,
not fields, not obsessions, just stats, numbers and facts. Does
(04:59):
it work? Does it not? The oil numbers yesterday seem
reassuringly well organized. We are clearly hustling and so far
it's clearly working. Messaging about what it isn't. I this
isn't COVID. This isn't about sourdough or animals and windows.
This isn't about hugs and kindness and all the other bs.
It's about adults and organization and getting stuff done as
(05:20):
best you can in an environment that is one largely
beyond your control, and two in a country that is
at the end of a very long supply chain at
the bottom of the world. Although we wouldn't wish any
of this, of course, on our worst enemy. So far,
so good, and from what looks like to my mind,
a seriously competent government, and one that might get some
support simply because when it hit the fan, they were
(05:43):
up for it and not making it up.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, so lax, And yesterday literally said this is not
COVID two point zero. It's not We're not baking sour dough.
I'm not sure I can get behind this anti sourdough sentiment.
I mean, there's nothing better than a fresh baked sour dough.
And I think just because you perhaps don't have the
same time that you did during COVID, because you're still
(06:06):
having to go to work, I think if you want
to bake Sata You should be allowed to bake sat.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
A very good piece written by Ben Thomas in the
post I think over the weekend, the Labor Party party
ahead in the polls, but absent in the moment the
reason I mentioned that, I thought it was a very
good headline apart from anything else. But you listened to
Shane Jones and you watch him yesterday and Luxeon was smiling.
The problem with luxany's too nice a guy to put
the boot in. But this is all at the doorstep
and the feet of the Labor Party and what he
(06:34):
means if you're not up on this, and the just
in time system is what we have in this country.
When Marsden got closed down, the oil company said, don't
worry about it. We like running a just in time system.
We'll look after it. No problems at all. You don't
need a lot of storage. What could possibly go wrong? There,
goes to cabinet. Megan Woods goes, oh, what could possibly
go wrong? We don't need a lot of storage. The rest,
as they say, is history. Shane Jones is I think
(06:56):
rightly reveling in his moment of saying I told you so.
So he's got the feet to the fire of the
oil companies because they wanted the system. They've got to
deliver on this and so fast, so good. That's encouraging.
I like the idea that there are new Zealanders out
there who can hustle a bit and get some ships here.
But then you get into the problem. So there's three
(07:18):
things happening. One is price. None of us like paying
what we're paying, but you know, most of us can
suck it up for a while and we'll do that.
One is supply is there the oil out there to
actually get our hands on. That would increasingly, to my mind,
seem to be yes, we can if we hustle. But
the third part is if we could get as much
(07:40):
oil as we wanted at the moment, where would we
put it? And the answer is we don't have anywhere
to put it. That's why places like Japan we've got
two hundred and fifty days and we've got about fifty max,
and that includes the stuff that's on the water. One
would hope we may come out of this having learned
some pretty hard lessons and do something about it. But
(08:04):
one also wonders whether there are certain people in the
political sphere who would make the same mistakes all over
again if given the chance.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, my twenty two year old, for example, had no
idea that about the Chris Hopkins not telling everybody about
the vaccine risks thing. She hadn't heard that at all.
And all she'd heard is that we're supposed to be
voting for Chris Hopkins now, not Chris Luxeon. That's it
sounds basic, but that's I mean, she's twenty two. You know,
(08:34):
she's already voted in won election, you know, rewrapping. But yeah,
back to the fuel shortage? Are we the only ones
in the world and here in New Zealand who haven't
completely lost our minds over this?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So in the UK, what can to tell you Rod
after thirty this morning that they're starting to get a
angsty around the part. But what have they done? Low
income households getting some money off heating oil. That's part
of a fifty three million dollar or pound package. And that's,
you know, giving that Britain is sixty six million people
and growing, it's not much money. They're thrown at that
Ireland because they've got no money, I mean coming out
(09:09):
of COVID. There are many economies around the world that
simply don't have the bandwidth debt wise to start handing
out money. Ireland taxes on petrol and diesel are cut
levees also going to be reduced on the price of
home heating oil. Once again, I reiterate, we don't know
how lucky we are in terms of renewables, in terms
of heating homes and stuff like that. Vat inclusive cutters
(09:31):
and excised green diesel is on the cards. They're an island. Australia,
a couple of states have gone with free public transport.
That's Victoria and Tasmania. New South Wales pushback yesterday said
we're not doing it, we don't have the money. And
the weird thing about alban easy it's the strangest thing.
Cutting a fuel tax literally gives free money to Porsche drivers.
(09:53):
I mean, honestly, in a country that has got towards
a trillion dollars worth of debt, telling the Lamborghini driver
they're getting cheaper fuel is just I mean, the level
of idiocy is gobsmacking. Egypt, what are can I tell
you there? Shops, restaurants, cafes. I mentioned this yesterday. They've
got a close at nine each night. Street lights are
(10:15):
dimmed roadside advertisings, dimmed non essential workers go home for
a day a week. They've raised this is interesting. Egypt
have raised the petrol prices and the fares on public
transport to limit the impact on the public finance. To see,
they're another country you can't afford it, so they're trying to.
They're making it unaffordable to do anything, which leads nowhere good.
(10:36):
Of course, Philippines national emergency has been declared. Sounds dramatic.
Offering subsidies to transport drivers, are reducing ferry services four
day a week for civil servants. Nothing's off the table,
says Ferdinand Marcos, Sri Lanka wednesdays of public holiday. They
were one of the first to move. Actually, fuel rationing
drivers limited to fifteen liters a week. What would you
do if it was limited to fifteen? You wouldn't go
(10:58):
far on fifteen motorcyclists five Thailand, take your jackets off here,
conditioning set at twenty six twenty seven, which strikes me
as bloody hot, doesn't it? For goodness sake? Take your
jet it off. Ethiopia they've boorded fuel supplying companies to
prioritize security institutions. Government projects and key industries. Me and
MA private vehicles currently allowed to operate on alternate days.
(11:20):
That's done on the old number plate business. Digitally monitored
fuel rationing. Your purchases are scanned, logged, tracked by a
QR code. And you know, me and MA take a
bit of the petrol when you weren't supposed to, they
won't be seen again. Vietnam, they're encouraging citizens to stay
at home. And if you don't want to stay at home,
(11:40):
can you ride a bicycle?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So you know, yesterday when our Prime Minister decess is
not COVID two point zero, people are not going to
be sitting at home baking sour dough. It kind of
sounds like it. It kind of sounds like countries are
just flying off.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Countries are all they're different, but we are not things.
That's the important That's what I was trying to say
at seven thirty. We actually look like adults here. For
once Bangladesh they're going to close the universities that'll serve
them well. Slovenia, I told you this the other day.
First EU country to do anything. They're limiting purchase of fuel.
But if you're a business, it's two hundred liters a day.
(12:14):
If you're an individual, it's fifty liters a day. South Sudan,
they're rationing electricity. So you're right. A lot of the
world's gone into COVID mode. We haven't, which is good.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, So apparently we are the only ones who haven't
lost our minds over this and that if we can
just like I'll go back to the Soudo thing, If
we can just find a way to make that as
well as you know, get through this without rationing too
much fuel, I think we will approve that we're a
(12:48):
productive society after all, aren't we? The rerat You with
everybody being so obsessed about the fuel shortage, what's even
to all those other things that the government was going
to do or going to stop doing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's the other thing with the Hopkins. There's a campaign
on the morification at the moment. One of the act
MP's Todd Stevenson, has been busy writing Judith Collins, Minister
of the State Service, and go, well, all that promise
we made in the coalition about the morriification, all the
married names and stuff, what's going on? She's come back
and goes, oh, I a bit worried about the cost.
Now you see, this is what a war does. War
takes the heat and the spotlight off all the issues
(13:23):
you were obsessed about prior to the war. So graifications off,
Hepkin's resignations off, It's all off. And till Trump takes
carg installs on, wats his face and goes home, all
the stories are off. There is no news.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So that's a shame. A bit like this podcast. They
just sort of put everything on hold until we get
all the fuel stuff sorted. No wonder PenLink's been put
off till the end of twenty twenty nine. I angry
and Hart. That's going to be my pet pee that
I'm going to keep bringing up until you're thoroughly sick
and tired of hearing about it. Good luck with Bet Sourday.
(13:58):
I'll see you back here again to Marry.
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrapoday there and welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All
the best but's from the my Casking Breakfast on Newstalk, said,
be in a sillier package, I am Glen harton today.
It's just going to be all about the fuel shortage
because basically that's all anybody seems to want to talk
about at the moment. So I'm gonna let you have
this podcast. You people who that's all you want to do.
(00:46):
Let's start off with, you know, obviously, the reason that
all this is happening.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Anthony Albanezi reminded all Australian's he's of the labor left
yesterday by endorsing free public transport even though it's not
his decision to endorse, and by announcing cuts to fuel
tax for three months. He also wanted more clarity around
war goals from the US President Will in part he
might have got them. Trump talked to the Financial Times.
I thought, unhelpfully, they might take carg Island. They might not.
(01:12):
That is the troops on the ground scenario people keep
talking about. It's got a Venezuela vibe about it. But Iran,
of course, is not Venezuela, and Iran is not about
grabbing the leader, installing the deputy, and collecting the oil
and sending it to Houston. Or is it Is it
possible they've killed enough of the old regime? Trump claimed
the so called new leader's gone. His words, not mine.
We certainly haven't heard from them or even seen them.
(01:34):
The exiled Prince Pilarbi over the weekend told conservatives, when
the time is right, he will give the word on
the uprising. So could the Americans grab the oil, install
the prince, get a cease fire in its high fives
all round? The administration keep insisting this is four to
six weeks. They have not adjusted that. They have not
walked it back. Ask yourself why Trump has the China
meeting set he as the world cap and event you
(01:55):
don't want to host in the middle of a war.
What he did say to the ft specifically to help Albaneasi,
is they have about three thousand targets left. So far
they've got thirteen thousand. So once again, do the math.
Thirteen thousand and four weeks is about three thousand A
weeks who more weeks should do it. Also, you can't
forget the markets. They're bleeding. The sell off is on,
interest rates are up, Recession fears arising, the poles are tanking.
(02:16):
The world is a combination of fearful and angry Americans
will punish all of this in November. If it isn't
a distant victorious memory. None of this ever has been
lost of course on the administration. Look also to the Israelis.
It's like that hit the turbo button on Lebanon. It's
all on why because they've been given the word time
is fast coming to an end. There is I think
enough there to still draw a reasonably confident conclusion that
(02:39):
roughly this is going to a plan. The plan, within
a margin, was always four to six weeks. At times
it's looked a bit wobbly, and indeed overnight the outburst
yet again about blowing up oil indicates trouble. You can
only threaten to do the same thing over and over
again before it no longer gets taken seriously. But for
those and there are quite a few desperate to paint
this as some sort of wayward mess, I would still
(03:00):
argue they will be proven wrong.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So yeah, just kick your head down, maybe even put
your head the sand, and then pop out. And six
months or so and was he see what's going on then?
And hopefully you don't have to fill out your car
too many times in the meantime, So rewrap. I think
Mike thinks that the government's not doing such a bad
(03:24):
job of insulating us as much as they can from
the fuel crisis.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
From our don't waste a crisis file. Is it possible
as government's handling thus far of oil events might well
see them rewarded with an increased level of supporters the
election draws closer. Initial reaction think about this, when the
war broke out and oil went up was twofold right
one around the economy, the rebound, the resurgence that we
had seen may well be yet again off as Nick
was telling us a moment ago, and then two ah,
(03:53):
the poor government worked their butts off, trim the budget,
change the laws, got rid of the mess. At last
was seeing the fruits of the labor and bang epic fury.
Next question so far unanswered here is will the government
of the day take the political heat because of the
cost of living being up up even though it's none
of their fault. Partial answer comes to us from Australia
and their polling, and that answer is no, the war
(04:15):
and its associated economic artworkings falls entirely on America. In fact,
polling in America shows the same thing. This is on Trump.
As I said last week, New Zealand versus Australia, in
terms of messaging and organization and reaction and action, it's
not even a contest. Australia is a hot mess of confusion,
claim and counterclaim in a growing bitch session between the
state and Canberra. Here it would seem close to faultless. Now,
(04:37):
for those upset over the lack of free money so far,
you might not agree with it, but you can't blame
the messaging or say it hasn't been explained to you.
Yesterday's llenng explanation from the Prime Minster on this program,
for example, you said it either stacks up for it doesn't.
And that's what we desperately need more of. Not ideology,
not fields, not obsessions, just stats, numbers and facts. Does
(04:59):
it work? Does it not? The oil numbers yesterday seem
reassuringly well organized. We are clearly hustling and so far
it's clearly working. Messaging about what it isn't. I this
isn't COVID. This isn't about sourdough or animals and windows.
This isn't about hugs and kindness and all the other bs.
It's about adults and organization and getting stuff done as
(05:20):
best you can in an environment that is one largely
beyond your control, and two in a country that is
at the end of a very long supply chain at
the bottom of the world. Although we wouldn't wish any
of this, of course, on our worst enemy. So far,
so good, and from what looks like to my mind,
a seriously competent government, and one that might get some
support simply because when it hit the fan, they were
(05:43):
up for it and not making it up.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, so lax, And yesterday literally said this is not
COVID two point zero. It's not We're not baking sour dough.
I'm not sure I can get behind this anti sourdough sentiment.
I mean, there's nothing better than a fresh baked sour dough.
And I think just because you perhaps don't have the
same time that you did during COVID, because you're still
(06:06):
having to go to work, I think if you want
to bake Sata You should be allowed to bake sat.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
A very good piece written by Ben Thomas in the
post I think over the weekend, the Labor Party party
ahead in the polls, but absent in the moment the
reason I mentioned that, I thought it was a very
good headline apart from anything else. But you listened to
Shane Jones and you watch him yesterday and Luxeon was smiling.
The problem with luxany's too nice a guy to put
the boot in. But this is all at the doorstep
and the feet of the Labor Party and what he
(06:34):
means if you're not up on this, and the just
in time system is what we have in this country.
When Marsden got closed down, the oil company said, don't
worry about it. We like running a just in time system.
We'll look after it. No problems at all. You don't
need a lot of storage. What could possibly go wrong? There,
goes to cabinet. Megan Woods goes, oh, what could possibly
go wrong? We don't need a lot of storage. The rest,
as they say, is history. Shane Jones is I think
(06:56):
rightly reveling in his moment of saying I told you so.
So he's got the feet to the fire of the
oil companies because they wanted the system. They've got to
deliver on this and so fast, so good. That's encouraging.
I like the idea that there are new Zealanders out
there who can hustle a bit and get some ships here.
But then you get into the problem. So there's three
(07:18):
things happening. One is price. None of us like paying
what we're paying, but you know, most of us can
suck it up for a while and we'll do that.
One is supply is there the oil out there to
actually get our hands on. That would increasingly, to my mind,
seem to be yes, we can if we hustle. But
the third part is if we could get as much
(07:40):
oil as we wanted at the moment, where would we
put it? And the answer is we don't have anywhere
to put it. That's why places like Japan we've got
two hundred and fifty days and we've got about fifty max,
and that includes the stuff that's on the water. One
would hope we may come out of this having learned
some pretty hard lessons and do something about it. But
(08:04):
one also wonders whether there are certain people in the
political sphere who would make the same mistakes all over
again if given the chance.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, my twenty two year old, for example, had no
idea that about the Chris Hopkins not telling everybody about
the vaccine risks thing. She hadn't heard that at all.
And all she'd heard is that we're supposed to be
voting for Chris Hopkins now, not Chris Luxeon. That's it
sounds basic, but that's I mean, she's twenty two. You know,
(08:34):
she's already voted in won election, you know, rewrapping. But yeah,
back to the fuel shortage? Are we the only ones
in the world and here in New Zealand who haven't
completely lost our minds over this?
Speaker 3 (08:48):
So in the UK, what can to tell you Rod
after thirty this morning that they're starting to get a
angsty around the part. But what have they done? Low
income households getting some money off heating oil. That's part
of a fifty three million dollar or pound package. And that's,
you know, giving that Britain is sixty six million people
and growing, it's not much money. They're thrown at that
Ireland because they've got no money, I mean coming out
(09:09):
of COVID. There are many economies around the world that
simply don't have the bandwidth debt wise to start handing
out money. Ireland taxes on petrol and diesel are cut
levees also going to be reduced on the price of
home heating oil. Once again, I reiterate, we don't know
how lucky we are in terms of renewables, in terms
of heating homes and stuff like that. Vat inclusive cutters
(09:31):
and excised green diesel is on the cards. They're an island. Australia,
a couple of states have gone with free public transport.
That's Victoria and Tasmania. New South Wales pushback yesterday said
we're not doing it, we don't have the money. And
the weird thing about alban easy it's the strangest thing.
Cutting a fuel tax literally gives free money to Porsche drivers.
(09:53):
I mean, honestly, in a country that has got towards
a trillion dollars worth of debt, telling the Lamborghini driver
they're getting cheaper fuel is just I mean, the level
of idiocy is gobsmacking. Egypt, what are can I tell
you there? Shops, restaurants, cafes. I mentioned this yesterday. They've
got a close at nine each night. Street lights are
(10:15):
dimmed roadside advertisings, dimmed non essential workers go home for
a day a week. They've raised this is interesting. Egypt
have raised the petrol prices and the fares on public
transport to limit the impact on the public finance. To see,
they're another country you can't afford it, so they're trying to.
They're making it unaffordable to do anything, which leads nowhere good.
(10:36):
Of course, Philippines national emergency has been declared. Sounds dramatic.
Offering subsidies to transport drivers, are reducing ferry services four
day a week for civil servants. Nothing's off the table,
says Ferdinand Marcos, Sri Lanka wednesdays of public holiday. They
were one of the first to move. Actually, fuel rationing
drivers limited to fifteen liters a week. What would you
do if it was limited to fifteen? You wouldn't go
(10:58):
far on fifteen motorcyclists five Thailand, take your jackets off here,
conditioning set at twenty six twenty seven, which strikes me
as bloody hot, doesn't it? For goodness sake? Take your
jet it off. Ethiopia they've boorded fuel supplying companies to
prioritize security institutions. Government projects and key industries. Me and
MA private vehicles currently allowed to operate on alternate days.
(11:20):
That's done on the old number plate business. Digitally monitored
fuel rationing. Your purchases are scanned, logged, tracked by a
QR code. And you know, me and MA take a
bit of the petrol when you weren't supposed to, they
won't be seen again. Vietnam, they're encouraging citizens to stay
at home. And if you don't want to stay at home,
(11:40):
can you ride a bicycle?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So you know, yesterday when our Prime Minister decess is
not COVID two point zero, people are not going to
be sitting at home baking sour dough. It kind of
sounds like it. It kind of sounds like countries are
just flying off.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Countries are all they're different, but we are not things.
That's the important That's what I was trying to say
at seven thirty. We actually look like adults here. For
once Bangladesh they're going to close the universities that'll serve
them well. Slovenia, I told you this the other day.
First EU country to do anything. They're limiting purchase of fuel.
But if you're a business, it's two hundred liters a day.
(12:14):
If you're an individual, it's fifty liters a day. South Sudan,
they're rationing electricity. So you're right. A lot of the
world's gone into COVID mode. We haven't, which is good.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, So apparently we are the only ones who haven't
lost our minds over this and that if we can
just like I'll go back to the Soudo thing, If
we can just find a way to make that as
well as you know, get through this without rationing too
much fuel, I think we will approve that we're a
(12:48):
productive society after all, aren't we? The rerat You with
everybody being so obsessed about the fuel shortage, what's even
to all those other things that the government was going
to do or going to stop doing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's the other thing with the Hopkins. There's a campaign
on the morification at the moment. One of the act
MP's Todd Stevenson, has been busy writing Judith Collins, Minister
of the State Service, and go, well, all that promise
we made in the coalition about the morriification, all the
married names and stuff, what's going on? She's come back
and goes, oh, I a bit worried about the cost.
Now you see, this is what a war does. War
takes the heat and the spotlight off all the issues
(13:23):
you were obsessed about prior to the war. So graifications off,
Hepkin's resignations off, It's all off. And till Trump takes
carg installs on, wats his face and goes home, all
the stories are off. There is no news.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So that's a shame. A bit like this podcast. They
just sort of put everything on hold until we get
all the fuel stuff sorted. No wonder PenLink's been put
off till the end of twenty twenty nine. I angry
and Hart. That's going to be my pet pee that
I'm going to keep bringing up until you're thoroughly sick
and tired of hearing about it. Good luck with Bet Sourday.
(13:58):
I'll see you back here again to Marry.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
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