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August 28, 2024 12 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Thursday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) How Long Does Chippy Have Left?/Solar Is the Answer... Until it Isn't/Ginny Anderson's Word of the Day

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
There and welcome to the rewrap for Thursday.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
All the best, but it's from the My Hosking Breakfast
on News Talks EDB and a Sillier package.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I Am Glen Hart today Solar power resource. It isn't it?
What could possibly go wrong?

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Ginny Anderson makes some rather interesting comments on the news
last night and it results in us discovering a word
of the day before any of that.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yes, Labor, how are they traveling at the moment? As
Chris Hipkins for the high jump?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Sometimes soon Mumblings around the future of Ris Hipkins as
leader have started. A Labor have added to their problems
this week with a social media post from David Parker
wittering on about his tax stream capital gains tax get
all those rich bastards lined up and raided their pockets.
Which a sorry old state they find themselves in the
power crisis of courses and a dea of sorts. The
cold hard reality of their policies have come home to

(01:14):
roost for us and haunt them. I mean, you can
argue the same around the economy. I suppose in general
their COVID approach three recessions and two years, a record
unmatched by anyone I can find. Is pretty damning for
a government that spent six years basically wrecking the place.
But the power is indisputable. We have no gas because
we haven't looked for any because they closed it down.
The lack of rain or wind isn't their fault, but

(01:35):
the fragility of the system is. And all the stuff
they said would happen to close the gap hasn't, And
the onslow idea went nowhere. And the simple, irrefutable truth
is as a result of a lack of supply, the
price is up and some people can't pay it, and
people are out of work. It's a series of very clear,
simple dots that can be laid directly at their doorstep.
It goes to credibility they have none, and now tax

(01:56):
if labor go to the next election, let me tell
you this for nothing. If they go to the next
election with a package of new taxes like capital gains,
they may as well not campaign. They will have a
twofold problem. One the recent memory of their womans and
governments still fresh in voters' minds, and two a new
idea being we will tax you some more for good measure.
They will of course be facing a government that has

(02:17):
cut taxes and maywell, if they're lucky, have an economy
with some real esteam driving it. If Hipkins makes it
that far, his vision will seem so weird, so out
of touch, so ideologically mad. He will not only lose,
but quite possibly lose badly. So you can't hide your past.
You can hope that people forget, and time does help that.
But if more taxes their calling card for twenty six,

(02:38):
it's game over before it's even started.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, I'm not sure that people do generally vote for
more tax I don't think there's heap anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
We'll come back to the Labor Party shortly.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
It's a rewrap in the meantime. What's the problem with
solar energy? Isn't it great? Isn't it just like.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Unlimited power for everyone all the time. Isn't that what
we need?

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Or we have? I am reading a green investment fund
in this country. It's excited about the money it's raised
for solar energy. They work with sub zero that's a
provider to more than five f teen thousand systems. The
money has come from offshore. There are some very big
players looking to park their money into green stuff these days.
So so far they've raised three hundred and sixty five
million dollars. Now there's a key line that if you're

(03:20):
looking at this sort of thing objectively, you would see
as a bit of a red flag. See these people
hand out money for one a return on investment, Nothing
wrong with that, and two their own institutional objectives. Now
that's trendy talk for looking good for corporate green washing,
for the ability to say to shareholders or governments or
the public, let us look at our commitment to the
new green future. Now, the problem with solder is it

(03:42):
looks increasingly like a mess. Nothing wrong with harnessing the
sun to keep you lights on. But have a look
at who makes the panels. Have a look at the
market for panels. Have a look at how many companies
are falling over because the market is festooned with panels.
Look at the role the Chinese are playing. Look at
how much trouble even the Chinese are having keeping their
businesses open given how many panels they have made. Have
a look at the geopolitical tensions around a market dumping,

(04:03):
the collapse of pricing. Have a look at the markets
like Australia who once paid you for your power from
your solar panel and now they charge you. And once
you've had a look at all of that, then come
back and ask yourself whether throwing hundreds of millions of
dollars at a sector and a certain level of chaos
is actually a smart way to spend your money. Bandwagons
are easy to get on. Group think is easy to
be a part of. And this is not to say

(04:25):
solar isn't a half decent idea or that decarbonization isn't
at least a part of the future. But the world
is full of fools in their money, and they're easily separated,
and sometimes they are separated for the wrong reasons, and
sometimes they are separated because they well, what you thought
was a sure thing is actually a bust. Raising money,
sadly isn't hard, and that sometimes is actually the problem.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Mike went on to recommend the show Industry, which is.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
On Sky and lyon.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
I haven't had a look at it that, yeah, it
looks like it's probably a good show that like a
I think it is it a bit like an English
version of success succession.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
I might have that wrong. Maybe it's an English version
of opinions. Maybe it's not English at all. I don't know.
I'd like I say, I haven't watched it.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Rewrap right now onto something which would eventually basically hijack
the entire show this morning.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Ginny Anderson's comments on the News last.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Night is that me, Michael just scripts can sound like
a big baby about Bishop's speech and by partisanship with infrastructure,
we won't do that because that, Yeah, that was what
he was saying yesterday. Well, the first thing that dim
when they got into Pound they canceled everything. So it's
got that and you've got to get across that hurdle.
That wasn't as big as problem. Yesterday's biggest problem was
Ginny Anderson, who just tried to deceive us all with
this bus business of foot patrols. As far as the

(05:40):
police are concerned, the number of foot patrols is on
the rise.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I don't agree with your numbers.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
So that wasn't the worst of it, because they got this.
This is old Benedict at TB one who's built himself
up quite a reputation for being a bit pro labor,
but redeemed himself spectacularly yesterday. So it's official police data.
Of course, just.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Because we see a spike in crime as not a
sufficient reason to say that there should be fewer foot patrols.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
So we tried again to point out that the foot
patrols are in fact up.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I don't agree.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
And the best part about it was they held the
shot as she walked away from the microphone and she
was pissed off. Fifteen percent drop, she claimed between December
and June, numbers are actually on the rise, consistent seasonal
spike in numbers every December. So that's what she was

(06:35):
trying to pull the wool over your eyes with December.
It always goes up in December. It's Christmas holidays in December.
Hence it's up. Between December of twenty three and June
of twenty four, we've seen an increase of around ten percent.
Hepkins doubled down whether I don't think he knew at
that point she'd been caught out. So basically they were
lying to us. They were manipulating numbers, and it goes

(06:55):
It's one of a couple of things. Either they thought
that we couldn't be bothered looking and checking the figures,
or they hadn't checked the figures themselves, one or the other.
But fundamentally the problem is they got caught and they're late.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
So it's this kind of gas lighting behavior that we've
come to know and love in a post Trump world,
haven't we, where you just stick to your gun.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
It's no matter what the actual truth is. It doesn't
really matter what the truth is.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
The truth is what you say it is, especially if
you say it multiple times.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's a rewrap.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
If only, if only there was a word for that.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Just thinking about your comments on Ginny Anderson, it had
to be a try on because most people, when confronted
with the proof of an error or of a mistake,
would apologize. She, on the other hand, would She didn't apologize.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I don't agree with your numbers.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
No, she doesn't agree with the numbers. She doesn't. She,
on the other hand, was obdurate.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I don't agree with it.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Is obdurate a word?

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Did you not pass that test?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
It's called I'm struggling with obdurate. But it's a good word.
If it's a real word, it's an excellent word, and
I'll look to feature it in the program on the.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
We've already the crack research team behind the scenes says
here has already researched that up, and by that we
mean typed it to the internet.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yes, and yes, it is a word fantastic.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
So, of course, you know, cure a minor research emergency
and perhaps a major obsession for rerat. Yes, it didn't
just continue for a little bit throughout the rest of
the show.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
We were obsessed with one word.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Obstinate is the word I would have used. And because
I would use that word naturally, then the word obdurate
comes out of left field for me, and then I
suddenly questioned it.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
I would have thought you would have used the word gas.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
Leader could have done that, But that's a phrase, not
a word. Stubborn, unyielding and transited, obdurate, stubbornly refusing to
change one opinion, all course of action.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Yeah, so it's like when Trump sits down with doctor
Phelon says that he's probably going to win California this election.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Morning. Mike, I think the word Ginny Anderson was looking
for was obtuse. No, that's it's a good word, but
it's separate. It's different. Mike, will you still have Giny
on your show. Well, of course I will sack people
just because they make a full of themselves. Imagine if
people got sacked every time they made a full of themselves.
He'd be running the show.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Now.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
It wouldn't be me, I.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Mean, you know, otherwise we'd still have Stuart Nash on
the show exactly?

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Or should we sucker? Should we sucker?

Speaker 2 (09:34):
Hmm?

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Maybe we should hire a lawyer and take it to
court and arsbery judicial review.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Now, just to be clear, we did not sack Stuart Nash.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
He quite and then, of course, because he wasn't part
of the cannet anymore, there was no point in talking
to him every week.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
So yeah, that's how that went.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Rewrap, I mean, I would hope that, you know, just
from being obdurate. Obdurate, Well, I'm gonna have to practice
saying it if we're going to keep saying it.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Obdurate was in the Gilbert and Sullivan musical possibly Pirates
presents the song Titwiller? Is it true, Glenn, I always
come to you for am dram advice?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Is that? Well, what's the one with the willow?

Speaker 3 (10:15):
I would have thought it would have been in the
very modern you know, what's that one? You know, I'm
a very modern example of something around there, and it's
got all the rhyming words in it.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I'll look it up. I'll get back to.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Which just goes to show how little I know about
musical theater, which is ironic given that I would have
considered myself to be the show's authority of musical theater,
given that I've done musical theater and Mike hasn't. Really
and yet it turns out, as usual, I'm a know
nothing bozo.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
And also, just to wrap up obdurate, it was, is
there an apology, Glen, did you get the wrong show?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Well?

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Yes, right, so obviously yes, the text to texted Willow Willow, Yes,
And I suggested that it was this one.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
I am the model of a model medure general the.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Legend which is from the.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
It's not that there's just a lot of words in
the song, so I thought that maybe it was the song.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
It turned out that it was actually on a tree
by river and this is macat Tit.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Sang Willow did Willow did Willow? And I said to him, And.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
The song goes on for a while, and then each
apter this, but and.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
If you remain careless and obduratile shall perishes is the object,
and you will tell Paris's he did, and you will
know why. Though I probably shall not exclaim as I
die a willow, tit willow willow.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Strange shows, don't they?

Speaker 4 (11:46):
What subject do you study? That drama?

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Those all all that those subjects are banned.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Now, we don't do that culture to pass in ceo.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
No, no, that that won't help you.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
And the really annoying thing about this is that I
do actually remember now after listening to the the tip
Willow song that the Muppets she did a great version
of that.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
So I should have known all along. Gush, I'm an idiot.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Anyway, we'll be back with more great musical theater highlights tomorrow.
I also managed to get in a free plug for
the Senate stage show The Odd Couple, which starts this
weekend as well during the show, but I didn't play
that back here. I mean, that'd just be the corruption
of the highest order giving it the domestic manager who's
directing it.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
I might see you there though. Saturday Night, Sunday matinee
and so on. Next week was away.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
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