June 29, 2026 • 12 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Right Idiot. Wrong Reason/No. More. Polls./Double Fail for Albo/Triple Fail for the Donald/I Think I Left it On the Backseat
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk zed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio The Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Okay, then welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All the
best that's from the Mic Hosking Breakfast on Newstalks. Here
d in a sillier package, I am Glen harton today.
No no no, no, no, no no no. We can't
be talking about poles again, can we? Australian politics? The
I was going to say the ups and downs, but
really it's just downs there, and it's a bit of
(00:45):
a downer of a day for Donald Trump as well,
you know, looking at the pluses and minuses for him. Finally,
we're going to finish up with the things that have
been left behind in ubers. But before any of that
MP expenses. Why are certain people so fascinated with this stuff?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
For some reason, TRIBB be able to use fascinate some people.
Of course, special if it comes to someone else's money.
So the Shane Jones story, right, that was your latest example. No,
we should not have done it, but it's thirty grand
for goodness sake. We've got bigger fish to fry. The
energy and energy out equation doesn't stack up. But you
can't tell the media that Louise Upston became the posted
child of course, for accommodation allowances, even though and this
(01:28):
is what makes all this stuff mental, even though she
did literally nothing wrong. Now the Herald abgne and crunched
the numbers as to who is getting what, why and when.
The upshot is a lot more people get it than
used to, and more labor MPs take it the national MPs,
although not by a lot. The forgotten part of the
equation appears to be the simple rule of allowance. If
(01:50):
you are not from Wellington, you are entitled to an allowance.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
The criteria's geography. Are you from Wellington or not not,
Whether you're wealthy or female, or old or experienced or anything,
just whether you're from Wellington or not. Now, the fact
you decide to buy a place to call your own
in Wellington does not try any change to year allowance entitlement.
So why does this become news That would in part
mean that your means tested. Wouldn't it so wealthy your
(02:16):
MPs are penalized, which of course is why it isn't
means tested, because that would make no sense. Ironically, it
doesn't actually even mean you're wealthy. I mean, I note
that Paul Goldsmith apparently bought a pad for three hundred
and twenty five thousand dollars. You don't need to be
loaded to afford a three hundred and twenty five thousand
dollars apartment. Here, I assume, like others who have purchased,
simply wants a place he can call home in Wellington.
Some don't, Some live in hotels, each to their own.
(02:39):
But at no point does the fact you own a
place change your entitlement. And yet the media decides none
of that's fair and another of these petty time wasting,
entrapment escapades and sues where people, in this case always
Upston are badgered for days on end for no real
gain and certainly no enhancement of the media's reputation. MP's
work is weird. Let's just accept that, shall we. MP's
(03:01):
work is weird, if not completely unique. They are not overpaid,
the rules are not so bad. They are glaringly obvious
alternatives to be had. So let's concentrate on the important stuff,
shall we, and stop wasting everybody's time.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, I mean, I feel slightly differently. I tend to
agree with Mike on the grand scale of things, it's
not that significant, but I think it is important to
point out what a complete deck Shane Jones is at
every opportunity, just to keep reminding people other than when,
of course he opens his mouth and does it himself.
It's the rewrap, right. So in spite of my I mean,
(03:38):
I'm really trying to enforce it, let's never ever talk
about poles on this pusha again policy. And yet it
seems like every day it seems like we talked about
poles more often than ever.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
The poll last night on there's two poles. They must
have wanted to shoot themselves. So TV one had a
poll on superinnuation and TV three had to poll on superinnuation.
In these two poles are every reason to just ignore
poles from here on in. So TV one's poll for
the people who want to keep it at sixty five,
in other words, just don't touch it, keep it at
sixty five, forty three percent, fine, nothing wrong with that.
(04:10):
Forty three percent want to keep it at sixty five.
TV three's poll was twenty six percent to keep it
at sixty five. So it's either forty three or twenty six.
Is that the margin vera, No, it isn't unless the
margin vera is about twenty percent. So in other words,
they are completely different numbers. People who wanted it means tested.
TV one's pole said twenty five percent. What it means tested?
TV three's pole said thirty five percent. So unless the
(04:31):
margin evera is ten percent, which it isn't, completely different numbers.
The only things that were close were the percentage of
people who said, increase it to sixty seven years old.
TV one said twenty six and TV three said twenty five.
So and that is a genuine poll number. But as
for the keep it at sixty five forty three to
twenty six, two poles, same question, same people potentially being asked,
(04:55):
completely different result. So that tells you that poles don't
tell you anything.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Can we do a poll on whether we should keep
doing polls?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
It's a very good question. I know the result of
that poll already, and I don't even need to ask
the question.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And yet I almost guarantee it. Tomorrow there'll be a
poll of polls. There will be a poll of our polls.
Because although I said it in jest, somebody will take
it seriously. And do one. Who are all these people
doing these polls? Don't they have anything better to do? Right?
Staying with politics now, but not ours. Things haven't really
(05:32):
worked out the way that the idea went to labor. No,
no again, I'm a stress. I'm not talking about ours
or indeed England's. I'm talking about Australia's.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
For old o finding out governments can't fix everything over
the weekend, so we often get governments or want governments
to fix everything because we collectively aren't up to fixing
things ourselves. Social media rules right, Australia was the pioneer.
A chunk of the world followed Australia to a degree
was Hail the Hero, and yet Alban Easy over the
weekends exploded with frustration a few short months after introducing
(06:06):
those rules because work two fold problem. One the customer
base I either kids don't like the band and work
hard to get around it, and two the tech companies
don't like the band and work hard to get around it.
Parents who should have done most of the heavy lifting.
Of course, hope to government would save the day. They haven't,
nor will they. Then. The supermarkets a problem of much
interest here, of course, they have as of July one tomorrow,
(06:30):
a new price gouging tool. The first country in the
world to bring in a band for price gouging, you
will officially not be allowed to price gouge of his question,
what is price gouging? And who decides? Funny story that
they haven't quite worked that bit out yet despite the
fact July ones tomorrow, and so you can pretty much
bet that in a few months time you will see
(06:51):
the return of a frustrated Albinezi, once again having been
foiled by the big players, who will continue to argue
forever just what is meant by price gouging, Which is not,
of course to say the broad idea behind these rules
is a bad thing, but it is to very simply
point out that governments who think they can control everything can't,
and people who rely on governments to control everything will
be forever disappointed. And text case, they are global and
(07:14):
too big to be contained. Basically, I mean, ask the Europeans.
They must have been finding that they find them trillions
of dollars by now to no great effect. And in
the supermarkets case, pricing on goods by the tens of thousands,
which is what they do, is so varied and so complex.
No one stop shop of government rules and regulations is
ever going to give everyone what they want all the time.
As for us in New Zealand, we really done little
(07:37):
of anything about either of these problems. And you might
argue that's the smart move given those who think they
control it all actually controlled very little.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, this is where I've got sympathy with some of
David Seymour's comments from the weekend and yesterday where it
talks about ex desire to sort of reduce government down
because what is it that they really do and really
are in charge of in people's day to day lives,
And can't we just consolidate that a little bit and
(08:06):
let them have their fun little games and we'll just
get on with stuff. The rewrap Now, speaking of fun
little games, some of Trump's little games he's been playing
have really blown up in his face. Now. He's got
this whole right leaning Supreme Court that he's managed to
engineer into the air over the years. But they're not
(08:27):
just being yes men and women to everything that he
wants to happen. What do you think's gone wrong? There?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Very bad day for Trump. Three nil. He'd be out
if he was playing baseball three strikes, he's out Supreme Court.
He does not have the authority to fire the Federal
Reserve Governor Lisa Cook from her Central Bank role. Second strike,
the Supreme Court will not be hearing the appeal by
the Trump team of the Federal Court's jury verdict awarding
(08:57):
e Gen Carroll the five million dollars. He wanted that revisited.
They said no. So that's two strikes. Third strike, and
the most important one. Mississippi can continue to count some
absentee balance received after election day five to four ruling
that was closed. Nothing in the federal election day Statutes
requires ballots to be received by election day. So three up,
three down.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
As much as I loathe to do this, that's not
quite right. He did when one decision. Where is some
other place where he is allowed to fire people as well, which,
of course is what he loves to do the most,
made a whole TV show about it. But yeah, it's
almost like he's, you know, a crazy old geezer who's
got no idea what he's really supposed to be doing.
(09:40):
The ree wrap let's finish s ARP listing off some
of the weird ar ivan items that people have left
an ubers over the last little while.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, the ins and the ouse. It's the bizz with
business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Now, ninth year, ninth year of seeing how useless we
are when we're traveling in an uber. This is their
lost and Found index when we are most useless. Well,
you can guess. Eleven am and one am Saturdays were
the days that most stuff went missing, twenty fifth of April.
As it turns out, we lost the most stuff. That
was Anzac Day, which was also a Saturday. So get
(10:18):
Anzac Day and a Saturday at one in the morning
you finished phones officially the most forgotten item, followed by
backpacks and wallets because of the sheer volume of Auckland
population of Auckland, obviously Orkland's the most forgetful city, followed
our christ Church and Wellington, so that's not a surprise.
Regionally blen him to blen them. Worst of the regionals.
One item every twenty five riodes, something happens, One item
(10:40):
every twenty five rides hung around in the cargol Second
and third, what else do we leave behind? Plants, unfinished burghers,
Now that's just disgusting. That doesn't surprise me. It's just disgusting.
We didn't leave that behind. We decided we didn't want
it anymore and just dumped it. Chilibin's vacuum cleaner number plate,
go pro drone rugs, false teeth. That will be an accident.
(11:04):
I don't think you leave those behind deliberately. I think
that's an accident. Golf A rare all Blacks jersey as
opposed to I don't have the numbers on regular all
blacks jerseys, but a rare all blacks jersey. But a
poulque is probably the weirdest one, because a paul que
is quite the thing because you will have had trouble
getting it in and you were going on, well hold
on because you're a bit pissed and it's one am
in the morning and it's a Saturday, so you're having
(11:24):
trouble getting in. But having trouble getting it in, you
surely remember you need.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
To get it to be surely one of those ones
you screw apart and not necessarily Gwin just sticking out
the window you reckon. Yeah, basically, my mind does start
to go to strange places when you hear less like this,
Like I like to think that some of these items
were all left there by the same person. So you know,
(11:50):
the guy had the pool queue, but in order to
try and get it out of the uber, he accidentally
knocked his teeth out, which then meant that he couldn't
finish his burger, you know, something like that, a whole
sort of Frank Spenser style aged eighty six style calamity,
(12:12):
and then just got out of the uber and lift
it all there. I can't do this anymore and wanted
it off to make a podcast. I am Glen Hart.
That was mine. I'll see you back here again with
another episode of it tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
The Reratrap. For more from News Talks b listen live
on air or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk zed B.
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on
iHeartRadio The Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Okay, then welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday. All the
best that's from the Mic Hosking Breakfast on Newstalks. Here
d in a sillier package, I am Glen harton today.
No no no, no, no, no no no. We can't
be talking about poles again, can we? Australian politics? The
I was going to say the ups and downs, but
really it's just downs there, and it's a bit of
(00:45):
a downer of a day for Donald Trump as well,
you know, looking at the pluses and minuses for him. Finally,
we're going to finish up with the things that have
been left behind in ubers. But before any of that
MP expenses. Why are certain people so fascinated with this stuff?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
For some reason, TRIBB be able to use fascinate some people.
Of course, special if it comes to someone else's money.
So the Shane Jones story, right, that was your latest example. No,
we should not have done it, but it's thirty grand
for goodness sake. We've got bigger fish to fry. The
energy and energy out equation doesn't stack up. But you
can't tell the media that Louise Upston became the posted
child of course, for accommodation allowances, even though and this
(01:28):
is what makes all this stuff mental, even though she
did literally nothing wrong. Now the Herald abgne and crunched
the numbers as to who is getting what, why and when.
The upshot is a lot more people get it than
used to, and more labor MPs take it the national MPs,
although not by a lot. The forgotten part of the
equation appears to be the simple rule of allowance. If
(01:50):
you are not from Wellington, you are entitled to an allowance.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
The criteria's geography. Are you from Wellington or not not,
Whether you're wealthy or female, or old or experienced or anything,
just whether you're from Wellington or not. Now, the fact
you decide to buy a place to call your own
in Wellington does not try any change to year allowance entitlement.
So why does this become news That would in part
mean that your means tested. Wouldn't it so wealthy your
(02:16):
MPs are penalized, which of course is why it isn't
means tested, because that would make no sense. Ironically, it
doesn't actually even mean you're wealthy. I mean, I note
that Paul Goldsmith apparently bought a pad for three hundred
and twenty five thousand dollars. You don't need to be
loaded to afford a three hundred and twenty five thousand
dollars apartment. Here, I assume, like others who have purchased,
simply wants a place he can call home in Wellington.
Some don't, Some live in hotels, each to their own.
(02:39):
But at no point does the fact you own a
place change your entitlement. And yet the media decides none
of that's fair and another of these petty time wasting,
entrapment escapades and sues where people, in this case always
Upston are badgered for days on end for no real
gain and certainly no enhancement of the media's reputation. MP's
work is weird. Let's just accept that, shall we. MP's
(03:01):
work is weird, if not completely unique. They are not overpaid,
the rules are not so bad. They are glaringly obvious
alternatives to be had. So let's concentrate on the important stuff,
shall we, and stop wasting everybody's time.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, I mean, I feel slightly differently. I tend to
agree with Mike on the grand scale of things, it's
not that significant, but I think it is important to
point out what a complete deck Shane Jones is at
every opportunity, just to keep reminding people other than when,
of course he opens his mouth and does it himself.
It's the rewrap, right. So in spite of my I mean,
(03:38):
I'm really trying to enforce it, let's never ever talk
about poles on this pusha again policy. And yet it
seems like every day it seems like we talked about
poles more often than ever.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
The poll last night on there's two poles. They must
have wanted to shoot themselves. So TV one had a
poll on superinnuation and TV three had to poll on superinnuation.
In these two poles are every reason to just ignore
poles from here on in. So TV one's poll for
the people who want to keep it at sixty five,
in other words, just don't touch it, keep it at
sixty five, forty three percent, fine, nothing wrong with that.
(04:10):
Forty three percent want to keep it at sixty five.
TV three's poll was twenty six percent to keep it
at sixty five. So it's either forty three or twenty six.
Is that the margin vera, No, it isn't unless the
margin vera is about twenty percent. So in other words,
they are completely different numbers. People who wanted it means tested.
TV one's pole said twenty five percent. What it means tested?
TV three's pole said thirty five percent. So unless the
(04:31):
margin evera is ten percent, which it isn't, completely different numbers.
The only things that were close were the percentage of
people who said, increase it to sixty seven years old.
TV one said twenty six and TV three said twenty five.
So and that is a genuine poll number. But as
for the keep it at sixty five forty three to
twenty six, two poles, same question, same people potentially being asked,
(04:55):
completely different result. So that tells you that poles don't
tell you anything.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Can we do a poll on whether we should keep
doing polls?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
It's a very good question. I know the result of
that poll already, and I don't even need to ask
the question.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And yet I almost guarantee it. Tomorrow there'll be a
poll of polls. There will be a poll of our polls.
Because although I said it in jest, somebody will take
it seriously. And do one. Who are all these people
doing these polls? Don't they have anything better to do? Right?
Staying with politics now, but not ours. Things haven't really
(05:32):
worked out the way that the idea went to labor. No,
no again, I'm a stress. I'm not talking about ours
or indeed England's. I'm talking about Australia's.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
For old o finding out governments can't fix everything over
the weekend, so we often get governments or want governments
to fix everything because we collectively aren't up to fixing
things ourselves. Social media rules right, Australia was the pioneer.
A chunk of the world followed Australia to a degree
was Hail the Hero, and yet Alban Easy over the
weekends exploded with frustration a few short months after introducing
(06:06):
those rules because work two fold problem. One the customer
base I either kids don't like the band and work
hard to get around it, and two the tech companies
don't like the band and work hard to get around it.
Parents who should have done most of the heavy lifting.
Of course, hope to government would save the day. They haven't,
nor will they. Then. The supermarkets a problem of much
interest here, of course, they have as of July one tomorrow,
(06:30):
a new price gouging tool. The first country in the
world to bring in a band for price gouging, you
will officially not be allowed to price gouge of his question,
what is price gouging? And who decides? Funny story that
they haven't quite worked that bit out yet despite the
fact July ones tomorrow, and so you can pretty much
bet that in a few months time you will see
(06:51):
the return of a frustrated Albinezi, once again having been
foiled by the big players, who will continue to argue
forever just what is meant by price gouging, Which is not,
of course to say the broad idea behind these rules
is a bad thing, but it is to very simply
point out that governments who think they can control everything can't,
and people who rely on governments to control everything will
be forever disappointed. And text case, they are global and
(07:14):
too big to be contained. Basically, I mean, ask the Europeans.
They must have been finding that they find them trillions
of dollars by now to no great effect. And in
the supermarkets case, pricing on goods by the tens of thousands,
which is what they do, is so varied and so complex.
No one stop shop of government rules and regulations is
ever going to give everyone what they want all the time.
As for us in New Zealand, we really done little
(07:37):
of anything about either of these problems. And you might
argue that's the smart move given those who think they
control it all actually controlled very little.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, this is where I've got sympathy with some of
David Seymour's comments from the weekend and yesterday where it
talks about ex desire to sort of reduce government down
because what is it that they really do and really
are in charge of in people's day to day lives,
And can't we just consolidate that a little bit and
(08:06):
let them have their fun little games and we'll just
get on with stuff. The rewrap Now, speaking of fun
little games, some of Trump's little games he's been playing
have really blown up in his face. Now. He's got
this whole right leaning Supreme Court that he's managed to
engineer into the air over the years. But they're not
(08:27):
just being yes men and women to everything that he
wants to happen. What do you think's gone wrong? There?
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Very bad day for Trump. Three nil. He'd be out
if he was playing baseball three strikes, he's out Supreme Court.
He does not have the authority to fire the Federal
Reserve Governor Lisa Cook from her Central Bank role. Second strike,
the Supreme Court will not be hearing the appeal by
the Trump team of the Federal Court's jury verdict awarding
(08:57):
e Gen Carroll the five million dollars. He wanted that revisited.
They said no. So that's two strikes. Third strike, and
the most important one. Mississippi can continue to count some
absentee balance received after election day five to four ruling
that was closed. Nothing in the federal election day Statutes
requires ballots to be received by election day. So three up,
three down.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
As much as I loathe to do this, that's not
quite right. He did when one decision. Where is some
other place where he is allowed to fire people as well, which,
of course is what he loves to do the most,
made a whole TV show about it. But yeah, it's
almost like he's, you know, a crazy old geezer who's
got no idea what he's really supposed to be doing.
(09:40):
The ree wrap let's finish s ARP listing off some
of the weird ar ivan items that people have left
an ubers over the last little while.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, the ins and the ouse. It's the bizz with
business fiber, take your business productivity to the next level.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Now, ninth year, ninth year of seeing how useless we
are when we're traveling in an uber. This is their
lost and Found index when we are most useless. Well,
you can guess. Eleven am and one am Saturdays were
the days that most stuff went missing, twenty fifth of April.
As it turns out, we lost the most stuff. That
was Anzac Day, which was also a Saturday. So get
(10:18):
Anzac Day and a Saturday at one in the morning
you finished phones officially the most forgotten item, followed by
backpacks and wallets because of the sheer volume of Auckland
population of Auckland, obviously Orkland's the most forgetful city, followed
our christ Church and Wellington, so that's not a surprise.
Regionally blen him to blen them. Worst of the regionals.
One item every twenty five riodes, something happens, One item
(10:40):
every twenty five rides hung around in the cargol Second
and third, what else do we leave behind? Plants, unfinished burghers,
Now that's just disgusting. That doesn't surprise me. It's just disgusting.
We didn't leave that behind. We decided we didn't want
it anymore and just dumped it. Chilibin's vacuum cleaner number plate,
go pro drone rugs, false teeth. That will be an accident.
(11:04):
I don't think you leave those behind deliberately. I think
that's an accident. Golf A rare all Blacks jersey as
opposed to I don't have the numbers on regular all
blacks jerseys, but a rare all blacks jersey. But a
poulque is probably the weirdest one, because a paul que
is quite the thing because you will have had trouble
getting it in and you were going on, well hold
on because you're a bit pissed and it's one am
in the morning and it's a Saturday, so you're having
(11:24):
trouble getting in. But having trouble getting it in, you
surely remember you need.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
To get it to be surely one of those ones
you screw apart and not necessarily Gwin just sticking out
the window you reckon. Yeah, basically, my mind does start
to go to strange places when you hear less like this,
Like I like to think that some of these items
were all left there by the same person. So you know,
(11:50):
the guy had the pool queue, but in order to
try and get it out of the uber, he accidentally
knocked his teeth out, which then meant that he couldn't
finish his burger, you know, something like that, a whole
sort of Frank Spenser style aged eighty six style calamity,
(12:12):
and then just got out of the uber and lift
it all there. I can't do this anymore and wanted
it off to make a podcast. I am Glen Hart.
That was mine. I'll see you back here again with
another episode of it tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
The Reratrap. For more from News Talks b listen live
on air or online, and keep our shows with you
wherever you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio
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