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June 22, 2026 12 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) No Plan. No Legacy/All These Policies/There Is No Cost of Living Crisis In New Zealand/How About Those Rates?/He Ain't No Song and Dance Man

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Okay there, welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday, all the
best fits from the mic casting breakfast and a sillier package.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm Glenhart today.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
After having no policies from hardly anyone, we seem to
be swamped with them now five months out from the election,
so we'll dabble our toes into that shortly. Is there
a cost of living crisis or not? Depends on whether
you listen to Mike Hosking or you don't. Our rates
are part of that, depends where you live. And Ardie

(00:51):
Sabbia was on the show this morning. We won't play him,
We'll just play your reaction to him. But before any
of that, Yes, and another Prime minister please in the UK. Thanks,
thanks for coming Sekire, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Any consolation and it won't be sicky. You didn't get
to be PM because he was brilliant, because Labour had
a program of exceptionalism. He got to power because the
Tories had ruled Britain for far too many years, had
too many leaders, too many scandals in the UK voter
was thoroughly sick of them. And what you saw unfold
was a truism of modern democracy. Oppositions don't win elections,
governments lose them. Also, if it's any consolation, and it

(01:25):
won't be either, Labour only landed thirty three percent of
the vote, and yet because it happened to land in
pretty much the right spot virtually everywhere, they ended up
with a stonking majority, which can be good or in
Kia statese are k is to our case not so
good because when that happens, you get a lot of
people in government that never expected to be there, and
in this case a lot of people from a different
branch of the Labour Party than Kia. And because that happened,

(01:47):
they held him to a card of ransom and he
couldn't do a lot because the factionalism within the party
was too great and it came at a time when
doing a lot was actually needed and one of the
things he needed to do a lot on was a
legal migration, of course, and because it continued to be
a carbuncle on the political landscape, reform came along and
milked it for all it was worth and saw rewards
in the polls, not helping Starmer. Also was inexplicable obsession

(02:10):
with Lord Mandelssohn and the big job in Washington, and
along with the broad based migration and cost of living pressures,
the Epstein Mandelssohn scandal stood out as reason enough to
light the fires of suspicion that this bloke might not
be up to much toss. And a by election loss
or two and a local body election routing, you had
all the ingredients there for a coup, except the party
was so devoid of any talent they literally couldn't find

(02:34):
a single person in a collection of four hundred and
two MP's to do it until Friday, when maker Field
provided the solution. And so it is over. It is
not over over because Burnham is not a magician and
the last thing Britain needs is a northern lefty. But
you can't tell them that at the moment. So Zakia's
toast undone by a combination of bad luck and blandness

(02:54):
of circumstances beyond his control and a lack of backbone.
The public hate him, There is no legacy. He will
not be missed.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Do they just not even bother doing the Wikipedia update.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Scrub on the internet pretend he never He was never
there in the first place, because he hardly was rewrap
right from UK politics to New Zealand politics, all these
policies everybody's promising, who can actually deliver?

Speaker 4 (03:21):
How to handle the avalanche of ideas that are starting
to tumble our way even though we're still five months
five months away from the election. So the nuances of
MMP I mean the vast majority of what is promoted
on the campaign trail will never of course see the
light of day. This is a great advantage to small
parties and those in opposition. So the simple thing I
guess is to hear it all, debate it all, work

(03:43):
it all out for ourselves.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Now.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
The trouble with that is you get fatigue, of course,
and you get confusion. What's in, what's out, what might
be in, what could be in? What will never happen
no matter how badly you want it right, So it's
all over the place. So buying in this country generally
round elections is bad enough as it is. Between the
divisive nature, not to mention of the complete bs of
social media c. If you're following social media at the moment,

(04:06):
people get hopelessly confused as to what's real and what
is not. You've got this fanaticism right now of those
of you telling you the entire conservation estate. You're following
this on social media, the entire conservation estate's going to
be sold, very good case in point. I mean I
personally know people who believe that, even though it isn't
remotely true. So making it slightly more complex is the
lack of bottom line. See, no one has one. There

(04:28):
isn't a policy that a party will die on a
hill for. So they can plead and promise and control
an arm, twist all their blue in the face, it's
still no matter what the idea, it may never be
a thing. Therefore, what do you vote on? So the
Greens and their envy taxes yesterday never happening, the purchase
by the State of the Bank of New Zealand to
Winston Peter Special never happening. The Nats and their compulsory

(04:49):
super I mean, personally, I doubt it's ever going to happen.
It might not, I mean, it might get up, but
it probably won't. So what is it we're actually voting for. Well, see,
most of the stuff that Labour sees so far will
happen if they win. You know, those bus rides and
the scans and the doctor's visits, more tax on houses. See,
the Greens won't stop that, so at least you know,
with Labour's at this point anyway, where you're at or

(05:10):
from the government side, I would have thought basically the
status quo, same parties, same policies. Surely it'll be the
same rough coalition deal, unless, of course, actual New Zealand
first surge and have greater leverage. And my guess is
that's not going to happen. But if we air all
the ideas, we're going to get flummix. We're going to
get confused and bored and also disappointed when it doesn't eventuate.

(05:30):
So we need to pick our subjects, I reckon, we
need to pick our subjects, pick our topics with care
and not get bogged down by electoral fantasy.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
It does depress me that the people who seem to
run the sharpest social media game get a lot of attention.
And just because they're running a sharp social media game
doesn't necessarily mean they'll have any kind of power to
do any of this stuff that they say they want
to do. Oh well, the rewrap now, of course, the

(05:59):
cost of living crisis will be a big factor, I assume,
although only if there actually is a cost of living crisis.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Mike, depends whether you're in government or an opposition read
the cost of living. That's true, Mike. The government was
in charge during COVID created the cost of living crisis.
They overcook the economy, let the inflation monster wreck havoc
until they apologize and reassure us they'll never do it again.
The cost of living crisis is here to stay. Well,
that's a political statement, not an economic one. I was
just referring last week to the spending. Spending's up, Our

(06:30):
confidence is down. Some of the inflation that we're expecting,
you know, around the food doesn't eventuate, hasn't eventuated, maybe
never will eventuate. So the inference being that the so
called cost of living crisis is no longer applicable, price
of fuels going down, Things are getting better materially, I
mean factually, they are getting better, and at some point
in all of our minds will go well, there's no

(06:52):
longer a cost of living crisis, Or if we just
decided because everything's going up in price, whether it's your
screaming service or your insurance or your rates. It's a
cost of living crisis. It'll always be a cost of
living crisis, and we've decided that's the funk we're in.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
I think it does rub some people the wrong way.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
We may here Mike asking claim there is no cost
of living crisis, given that he actually went on here
a little bit later on this morning and talked about
the too Soon Saunas that he had their belt specifically,
I don't think they are in the same place. I
think they are in two different places. I'm not sure
if that makes it worse or better. Actually, the rewrappit right,

(07:29):
Let's move on to rates now. Now, who doesn't love rates?
And by that I mean talking about them, complaining about them,
not actually having to pay them, of course.

Speaker 4 (07:38):
On the subject or of councils and taxes, as we
were talking about in the first half hour of the program.
Very very excited to be able to report overall, christ
Hitch had such a good weekend, and that I mean,
if you saw the pictures of the Warriors game, it
was just absolutely brilliant. The stadium, the city, the sunset,
the whole thing. Not to mention the Warriors winning. Andrew
Webster with us by the way after eight o'clock this morning.
But we also standing by in Christchurch for a rates cut.

(07:59):
How often do you hear that a rates cut project
was completed? They got the final report. This is all
I'm telling you about. They reported six weeks early. Eificantly
under budget projects are past targets for engaging local workers
and businesses. Government costs. Now, that's interesting with local businesses
and workers. I understand the rationale behind it, but as

(08:20):
a project based on patriotism, I elocal or is it
based on price anyway? Governance costs, expenses associated with the
general administration, compliance and strategic oversight also came an under budget.
In the last nine months of the project, four thousand
people two point four million work hours completed. This is
all part of the Finance and Performance Committee's meeting with

(08:41):
the council. Total cost of the stadium was more than
twenty six million dollars under budget and as a result
of them saving money that's going to be reflected. Don't
get too excited about the rate cut that the mayor
was talking about. It it quates to zero point two four
percent of a positive impact. But it's better than going
the other way, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's not seriously going to have It's like one of
those It's like, you know, no matter how low oil goes,
we all know that Petro was never going to be
down to where it was. I mean, it might get close,
but it's just saying they're never going to cut rates,
are they?

Speaker 3 (09:16):
The rewrap right, let's finish up here.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
It was quite a sporty sort of a morning, as
you heard Mike saying that cat. We talked to Andrew
Webster about the Warriors, and we talked to the new
All Blacks Captain as well. Although some people went super
impressed by the sounds of it.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
He's a sample that was not interview with Artie, Mike.
Not overly uplifting, seemed very flat and rather un enthused.
Not a lot of energy or excitement. Couldn't really hear
a smile in his voice. Odd, So I'm marking it
higher than you are. You guys are hard work. Wow, Mike,
what a great interview with a new All Black Captain.
I can't wait for more of those over the next
few years. Laughing emoji Phil morning, Mike. I'm so disappointed

(09:55):
with how Artie presented himself as the new All Blacks captain.
He sounded like he was still asleep, very drabbing, an
inability to articulate a good answer to any question. See I,
without picking a fight with you, I disagree. He's a
low key guy and he said some good stuff, but
he said it in a low key way. What you're
articulating to me, I think is that a guy in

(10:16):
a dressing room I'm listening to. And I think that's
probably a fair point. Sorry, Mike, not your fault, but
ab captain not very articulate. I don't think that. I
don't know that he wasn't necessarily articulate. I think he
just he's what you wanted was a song and dance man.
And the song and danceman would namely the last time
the All Blacks had a song and dance man. I mean, honestly,
they don't.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Andrew Martins.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
He wasn't the captain though, But good point, very good point, Mike,
No doubting his ability on the field. Not so sure
off the field. Opening review is not good.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
It is strange that people don't get a bit more
pumped up when they're coming on the most popular radio
show in the country.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
He was fine, He just took a little while to
get going Ardie and saying that I don't have it.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I know the question is Captain c tread though I've
seen him literally, you know, turn games around single handedly
by grabbing the ball in hand and doing what needs
to be done or making the tackles, winning the you know,
that's the kind of leadership I like.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I'm happy for him to literally just give.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Monosyllabic answers if he wants to, if that's the way
he continues to.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Play, and I'm sure it will be.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
No, he doesn't have to do a song or a dance,
although I know I am on record and saying that
that was the problem with Scott Robinson's coaching is that
he never did any breakdancing once he became All Blacks coach,
and I think that's where we went wrong. So maybe
he does need to sing and dance. I don't know.
I don't know what I'm talking about. So I'm going

(11:54):
to stop and I'll start again tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
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