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December 8, 2025 • 12 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Wait... Hang On/Too Much Time Off/What a Coup Can Do for You/Parties Ain't What They Used to Be/Choosing Pets Over Kids

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Rewrap there and welcome to the Rewrap.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
For Tuesday, all the best bits from the mic Asking Breakfast,
starring here the Dooper. See Ellen on News Talks EDDB
in a Silia package. I am Glenhart today. Our holidays
are too long at this time of the year to
be a growing with all the people who are saying this,
who is our preferred PM and who's made a new

(00:47):
entry onto the list? Christmas party is ain't what they
used to be and it looks like we might love
our pets more than our kids. But before any of that,
speaking of our kids, how.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Can you keep them off for socials? You can't, can you?

Speaker 3 (01:02):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
Tomorrow's the big day, isn't it? And it is I
think not an overstatement to say that the eyes of
the world, well at least around the world, are going
to be on Australia and whether the social media band
will actually work and that is still a live question,
isn't it. We're less than twenty four hours from the
thing taking effect and none of us can totally say
for sure that we know it's going to work for
two reasons. One it's the Internet, so there's always a

(01:24):
work around out there, and two involved kids, and if
there's a work around, kids will find the work around.
I'm going to call it for you now. It's not
going to work if your definition of working is that
one hundred percent of children under sixteen get kicked off
and stay off until they're sixteen. But I think it
is possible that it is going to work if your
definition is a little bit more flexible, which is that
most kids get kicked off and stay off because their

(01:46):
parents force them to do it. And I think that
is the key thing here, like it always is parents
getting involved talking about whether it works or not. Actually,
I think kind of misses the point here, which is
that this gives parents something that they haven't had yet,
which is permission to keep their kids off social media.
Because what parents have been finding is it's very hard
to keep fourteen year old Susi off social media. Off

(02:07):
the facy, off the Insta of the time, TikTok, off
the snapchat, because all Susie's friends are on it, and
if Susie's not on it, then she becomes the weird
kid and Nobody wants their kid to be the weird kid, right,
So you're relenting. You let Susie on it. This has
the potential to flip all of that pressure around. Now
everyone's off. Now the kid that's on it, Little Johnny's
on it. Susie comes home, his old Johnny's on TikTok?
Can I go on? TikTok?

Speaker 2 (02:26):
You go?

Speaker 4 (02:27):
No, Johnny's a naughty kid from a family that has
no rules, no boundaries, no discipline. Susie, You've got boundaries
and discipline your parents care about. You know, you stay off.
It gives permission for the parents to be able to
do that kind of thing. And if you're a parent,
you know, peer pressure is massive, isn't it, especially in
the teenage years. The Aussie government's doing its bit by
bringing us to this point. The tech companies are being

(02:48):
dragged into doing their bit, and ultimately this will live
or die in Australia based on whether Australian parents do
their bit and actually step up to the plate and
parent properly.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Here.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah, exactly, if you.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Want to stop your kid's exit, you're seeing certain bits
of the internet you actually can There's plenty of solfe
where options out there from people like a Vast and
Norton and that. Yeah, there's all sorts of apps and
security options that give you control over your kid's devices.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
You just have to want to do it.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
There might be a bit of pushback, but I mean
their kids, you're the parents.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I think you're supposed to be a judge.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
It's a rewrap.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
If not, why would you want to have such a
long summer holiday. You'll be even more exposed to them
than usual.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Right.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
If you've been following this debate about whether our summer
holidays in New Zealand are too long, you'll have noticed
that Toss Brumley, who's the guy who kicked off the
debate with his column, has said nothing publicly since his column.
Now I'm told the reason for that is because of
the heat that he's getting. And the same thing happened
with an earlier LinkedIn post that he did on the
same subject. He copped heat, which I think is quite bizarre,

(04:03):
given that this is not life or death. This is
not about politics, it's not the treaty, it's not COVID.
It's just a chat about summer holidays. But apparently some
of us, and perhaps lots of us feel really strongly
that we deserve those summer holidays enough at least to
bludgeon him with our opinion. Now, Simon Bridges backs him
on this. He reckons the view is that we're on
holiday until March, and international business people see us as

(04:26):
lifestylers who are more interested in work life balance than
in growing the economy. The Prime Minister Christopher Luxon kind
of falls on his side too. He's going to work
through to Christmas. Even then he's going to take a
couple of weeks, get back on the fourth or the
fifth of January. But I'm going to take the opposite
view on this. If you want that summer break, if
you can take that summer break, you should take it.
I mean Mike Hoskins copping it a wee bit. I

(04:48):
see in some of the news coverage. Mike deserves every
single day of the seven weeks that he's taking. I
bet you there was a day when he worked every
hour that God gave him. But he doesn't have to anymore.
He is now the best in the business. He's made
his money, he's earned the right to take the break
if he wants to take the break. And I think
the same is true for every sme owner out there.
If you need the money, if you're hustling for for

(05:08):
business work, open your shop, get on the tools. But
if you don't need the money, if you've got enough
of it, take your summer. I mean, you count how
many summers you have on this planet. It's actually not
a lot at all. So work while you're young, bust
your butt to make your way, but once you have it,
enjoy what you've earned.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Having it all at the same time seems a bit
weird to me. I mean, it's actually winter when it's
cold and wet and windy that I would.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Like to take holiday from. Buy some where. It's not
doing that anyway. A rerap prime.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
So was there an attempted coupe for leadership of the
National Party or not?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Heaven is pretty convinced there was.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Okay, here's a question for you. Is two percent in
the preferred prime minister polling a good thing? Now? I'm
asking you this because Chris Bishop has popped up. So
we had the one News Varian poll last night. This
was the first pole since word got out there. Chris
Bishop had tried to get the numbers to roll Chris
Luckxon obviously failed. So the preferred prime minister ranking goes
like this, Luxeon's on the top of twenty three, then

(06:08):
fapkoins on twenty one, Winston on nine, David Seymour on five,
Chris Bishop on two, and Chloe Chloe. There's just no chance,
is there anyway? Chloe on one? Anyway, Chris Bishop popping
up on number two is you know, on two percent,
not number two, but two percent makes it. This is
significant because this makes him the first National Party MP
apart from the Prime Minister, to register in the preferred

(06:30):
prime minister poll since the election in twenty twenty three.
So I guess why I'm asking is because he should
take some heart, like he could look at that and go, hey,
I'm in there. I'm in the I'm the only one
who's in there. But then on the other hand, it
is two percent. I mean, that's a long shot to
twenty three percent, sitting just one above Chloe, and Chloe's
never never got a chance, right, So however you look

(06:51):
at it, I suppose.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, I mean one percent, one percent more than everybody else,
I guess, And.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Chris Bushop is one percent ahead of her. So mister
two percent, watch out. The rewrap.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Heather's just figured out that ends me Christmas party is
coming up.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
So if you must have ignored.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
The email which came out quite some time ago explaining
what to do to get your wrist band.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
Try to get into my Christmas party today. And yeah,
I've left them. I left it too late, so I
don't know I'm gonna I'll do, I'll do something, I'll
get into. I don't even know if I really want
to go. It's between one and four in the afternoon.
What kind of a Christmas party is that? Anyway? This
has come up again this year, comes up every year.
The question is at the end of the Lavish Kiwi
Office Christmas Party. But the reason I'm raising this with

(07:40):
you this hardy annual, the reason I'm raising it with
you this year is because finally somebody has said the
thing that needs to be said, and that's deb repeed
Debra Peede, who is the pr Queen in Auckland and
has done it for forty five years so has seen
her share her fair share of wild Christmas party, especially
in public relations reckons. There's two reasons the Lavish Christmas
Party is over number one the social media right, because

(08:03):
if you're going to go there, and then you're going
to snog your boss in the corner. I'm just gonna
come past. I'm gonna film you and stick it up
on the Instagram, aren't I And then then you're gonna
get fired. So that's part of the reason you're not
getting boozed and doing that. But the second reason, thank god,
somebody said it. The second reason is women. Women are
increasingly occupying leadership positions, she said, and we've become more

(08:23):
empowered in the workplace, so we don't put up with
bad behavior. Now, isn't that the truth? Think? I know
this is confronting. Think about it for a second. Think
about it. No one is more boring than a mum,
and especially a mum of really small kids. Like we
just don't have any tolerance for excessive drinking, excessive loud noise, rudeness,

(08:43):
like absolutely no interest in sexy stuff. Right, you've grot
trygrab in my butt. I'm just gonna punch you in
the face. I'm not interested in it at the moment.
So this is necessary. It's a biological reality because we've
got to keep the little kids alive. So we've got
to be as boring as possible. But even if, but
just because it's a necessity doesn't mean that it's not true.
Your wife is killing your party and your lady boss

(09:05):
is killing your party, and I can't do anything other
than just say I'm really sorry.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
But such as.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Life, I don't know if the back grabbing is a
crucial element of a decent Christmas party. But I mean,
you know, I worked for a company that owns radio stations,
and back in the day, we used to have people
like The Feelers and Dave Dobbin, the Dead Flowers, people.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Like that playing at our Christmas parties. It was a
good time. Last year. It was in the afternoon as well,
and I made the mistake of going to it. I'm
never doing that again. I mean, talk about not being
able to get a drink at a Christmas party.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
It wasn't because they weren't. They weren't saving anybody didn't.
The queue was so long. This organization's got a lot
of people working for it.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's just put it that way. And they were all Thursday, Thursday,
on a.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Hot Friday afternoon, and yeah, I'd busted because I thought
I might avail myself from some of those drinks. I
had to think I had about a grand total of two.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
So yeah, I don't.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Think I'm I can't even remember if IRSV beat if
I did here that you can ad myrist bend the
re wrap thing. I might just go home and sit
on the couch with my dog.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
I actually have a theory, you know how Andrew was
just talking about what's going on with the pet shops.
I don't know if he's meaning something that's happening particularly
recently or just kind of general long term trend. But
I have a theory on what's going on here, which
is that we're not having babies. So if we're not
having baby because the old birth rates coming back, isn't it.
We've seen that this is happening across western world. So
you're not having babies. But then of course the two
of you get a bit lonely, childless couples. So what

(10:42):
do you do? You get a dog? Don't you get
yourself a dog? Maybe you get yourself two dogs, And
then of course you find you've got lots of money
and you want to make a fuss, so then you
start spending money on the dogs like the children. This
is what the boss. The boss is completely mental. He
is completely he's got two dogs, is completely mental for them.
They have birthday parties with surprises and presents, So the
dogs are the children. So then you go instead of

(11:02):
going to the kiddie store, the toy store, you go
to the bloody older peat shop and blow all your cat.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
And if I'd known what I know now back then,
I would might have done that. I would have had
dogs instead of kids.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Because what's the life span of a dog? Sam ten
and twelve? Done by ten and twelve years? I mean,
we're stuck with these guys for at least twenty five years.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Exactly. If you don't like your dog, you only have
to wait a short amount of time.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
For them to pop off.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
I've seemed to never be rid of these other things.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
And then now we found out the brains only start
working fully when they're about thirty five. So that's a
really long commitment to children, actually.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
And that's if they ever start working. I'm still waiting
for mine to kick in. Maybe yet fifty five. Maybe
I'm just a late developer.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
I'll keep you postage. I am glen heart. You never
could have happen between now and tomorrow. I'll see you
then and we'll find.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
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