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February 28, 2026 15 mins

Amanda Knox was arrested for the murder of her flatmate, wrongly convicted, and spent four years in an Italian prison, and she's looking back on her journey in a new documentary.

Mouth of the Wolf follows Amanda’s first trip back to Italy in years to face the people and places that shaped her story. 

Amanda Knox and her husband, Christopher Robinson, worked on the project together and the pair described the risky journey back to Italy.

"It was not beyond belief for us that if Amanda returned to Italy to speak the truth, that she could be putting herself in potential jeopardy for being charged with another crime. So that fear was real."

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks EDB.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
This time last year, wrongly convicted Amanda Knox joined me
on the show. Amanda shared the toll of being arrested
and found guilty of murdering her flatmate and friend Meredith Kircher,
the impact of four years in an Italian prison, and
then eventually been exonerated of the crime. Today, she returns
to share the next part of her journey. Amanda and
her husband Christopher Robinson have released a documentary. It's called

(00:34):
Mouth of the Wolf, and it follows Amanda's first trip
back to Italy in years to face the people in
places that shaped her story. Amanda Knox, Christopher Robinson, good morning,
Good morning here. Nice to talk to you again, Amanda,
and nice to meet you Christopher. Can I start by
asking you, Christopher, why did you decide to make this documentary?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Oh gosh, well, brotep. If you want brownie points with
your wife, don't whip out a camera when she's having
a panic attack. I didn't know exactly what we were making,
or even if we were making something when I first
began filming Amanda. I just knew that when the opportunity
to return to Italy arose, and when I saw her

(01:18):
extending an olive branch to the man who had put
her in prison, I knew that she was doing something
momentous and it felt like it needed to be documented.
And along that journey that lasted about five years, I
learned a lot of things, not just as a filmmaker,
but as a human and it seemed like something worth sharing.

(01:39):
Because if Amanda can sit down face to face with
the man who put her in prison and be kind
to him, then I think that that has a lot
to say about how our entire society could potentially look
at the problems we're facing with polarization and tribalism and
things like that.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I think another thing that came up over the course
of me experiencing this. So I blame him for the document.
I just went on the journey that he documented, and
something that really struck me as I was figuring out
what I was doing and what I was trying to do,
was also coming into awareness that this was a very

(02:19):
rare thing that like, you know, I'm really plugged into
the innocence world at this point. I know a lot
of people who have been wrongly convicted, and none of
them like have ever you know, sat down face to
face with their prosecutor, confronted them, got any kind of acknowledgment.
And so it's I it seemed like as much as

(02:45):
I was plagued by the why question of why did
this happen to me and that was the thing that
was driving me towards my prosecutor, I also was I
thought this was a really more bigger question of like
why why don't we have accountability like that, Like why
don't we have these conversations and these confrontations when they're
clearly so important for the sake of you know, healing

(03:08):
from trauma, but also just for accountability, right, Like that
is the whole point of the justice system is accountability
for harm, and if harm has been caused by the
system itself, why don't we have more of these kinds
of interactions, these these conversations taking place. And so that's
something that this documentary also helps to reveals, like introducing

(03:30):
this new kind of conversation and asking the question like
why aren't we doing this more often?

Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's really interesting you bring that up straight away, because
I wanted to talk to you about that about the
work that you do with the Innocence Project, and from
the people that you've spoken to, is it something that
they would like the opportunity to do, because I'm sure
there's a lot of other people who would would like
to never ever be in the same room ever again
as the person that prosecuted them.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
Well, you know, it's true that a lot of people
are just like I, have had enough of their face
in an adversarial and environment in a courtroom, and I like,
I think a lot of people very justifiably feel like
they're the as the harmed person. It's not on them
to make that conversation take place. But if you were

(04:18):
to ask any single person if they would appreciate it
if the people who put them in prison were to
come to them and say we were wrong and we're sorry,
I guarantee you every single person would say yes, they
would want that that would be an important part of

(04:39):
their healing, just that acknowledgment. And I think that's what
really universalizes this story, is that when you have been
harmed by another human being in whatever way you could be,
that any person can be harmed by another human being.
Like one of the things that you really want in
order to move on is for the person who hurt
you to acknowledge that they did it, that they shouldn't

(05:01):
have done it, and to say that they were sorry.
That is a universal human and desire. Now, the fact
that the system doesn't like set us up to do
that is really interesting, and in fact, it's almost like
the system, the criminal justice system, sets us up to
set all of these roadblocks up to prevent that kind

(05:23):
of acknowledgment from happening. And I guess I'm just really stubborn,
and I'm like, well, if no one else is going
to do it, then I'm gonna do my part and
just make it happen and see if it's possible, because
I wasn't going to sit around waiting for that to
appear to me.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
You return to Italy several times. The first time is
to appear at one of the Innocent Projects conferences. Can
you tell me did you worry about your safety and
your freedom the first time you returned to Italy?

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Did I worry about my safety and my security?

Speaker 5 (06:00):
Bab?

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Was I having panic attacks and hiding in our closet crying?
Was I having conversations with all of our friends about
private security and trying to you know, my parents trying
to talk me out of it. Like we had every
reason to think that this was a bad idea and
that I was putting myself at risk and as a result,

(06:23):
like putting our family at risk.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
You know, a lot of people don't know that when
Amanda was wrongly convicted of murder, she was also wrongly
convicted of this lesser charge for criminal slander. And at
one point she was charged with criminal slander against the police.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
And this is because mom was charged with criminal slander
against the.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
Police or for repeating to the press the statements that
Amanda had told her that the police had slapped her
during her interrogation. So like Amanda's mother and her father
were charged with a crime in Italy just for saying
those words. And so it was not beyond belief for
us that if Amanda returned to Italy to speak the truth,
that she could be putting herself in potential jeopardy for

(07:08):
being charged with another crime.

Speaker 4 (07:10):
So that fear was real, a crime that they put
people in prison for in Italy, right, Like that's not
just like a civil thing, yeah, a criminal charge.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
And then there's the fear that some you know, wacko
might show up on the street and try to stabber
or something, you know, like there are people.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
When I was pregnant, you know, when I was pregnant,
people were threatening to murder my baby just so that
I would feel the pain of what Meredith's family felt.
So like, as we are making our plans to go
back there, I didn't want to feel afraid of a place,
but there were a lot of reasons to feel afraid,

(07:48):
and we had to be very careful and mindful about
about our approach.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
You learned that, didn't you the first arrival and the
media and the paparazzi and everything, and then the second
time was a bit more of a strategic entrance into
into that was a.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Born identity thing going on.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
It certainly was. It was well, I suppose you weren't surprised, Amanda,
after all that you'd been through with the media. You
probably were expecting them to react the way that they did.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, I mean, I don't think I'm ever prepared emotionally
to be that dehumanized over and over. Like It's it's
really hard for people to understand what it feels like
to have cameras just like crushed into you. Like in

(08:39):
the third trip to Italy, I got hit in the
face with a camera because people were just swarming around you,
and it's like it's not a normal way for human
beings to interact with each other. It's it's like these
cyborg people are like coming at you and they assault.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's a kind of assault.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yeah, it's and it's for some reason it's allowed and
it's legal and they don't have any boundaries, and so
it's it's really hard.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
I think the part of you is just a deep
optimist and you always hope, yeah, humanity can improve, and
then you get sadly disappointed again when they treat you
that same way.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Like sometimes I think that I'm going to be able
to handle it, Like a ton of people tell me, well,
next time, next time it happens, just you know, hold
your head high and march through that crowd.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
And then like I think that.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
To myself, and I'm like, I'm just gonna hold my
head high and march through that crowd and not be afraid.
And then they crush you again, and like I instinctively
turtle into myself because it feels like I am being swarmed,
and so like even myself, I keep hoping that, like,
I'm going to get used to it, and I'm not.

(09:51):
I to this day, I am not used to it.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Christopher. You mentioned before that when it came to these trips,
Amenda's family and friends didn't really want her to go
and didn't really understand this need to talk to the
prosecutor and things. Why did you support her, well, aside
from the fact that she's your wife.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Yeah, I come at these issues from a very philosophical
place personally, and I don't believe in a concept like evil. Really.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
I think that there's a very few number of people
on the planet who are true psychopaths and who are
lacking the ability to empathize with other humans. But the
vast majority of harm, I believe is caused by people
who think they're doing the right thing, which I think
is actually more terrifying in a certain way. And so
understanding how harm happens is interesting to me. And so

(10:48):
when I saw Amanda coming face to face with her prosecutor,
I realized that we were connecting on this level, that
she too didn't think he was an evil man, despite
the harm that he had done to her and her
family and to Raphael's family and the closure he had
denied Meredith Kircher's family through this entire wrongful accusation and prosecution,
and so figuring out how harm actually happens is the

(11:12):
best way to prevent it in the future. So if
you don't want wrongful convictions to happen, you need to
understand how a person who has good intentions can be
so so wrong about.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
Things and whether they can come to terms with that. Yeah,
and like that that was really the open question, is
is it possible for him to get out of his
own reality that he had constructed around his head to
like for us to come back together to a common

(11:45):
reality and see each other as real people.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
But at the same time, like Amanda's mom's perspective on
this is totally valid, and I'm really glad that she
accompanied us on these trips back to Italy.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
And she's an important part of the film.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, Like she never, to her credit, you know, she
never wanted to see the prosecutor's face ever again. But
she didn't say you're not going back to Italy. She
said you're not going back without me. And you know,
interviewing her from Mouth of the Wolf was also really
crucial because I needed I needed to see that perspective.
I know that Amanda and I are kind of on

(12:22):
the rare end of the spectrum here of like being
willing to like give that guy every benefit of the
doubt that he doesn't deserve, and Eda, Amanda's mother is
just like, screw that guy well, and.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
I think, like, and that's part of the discovery of
the film, because like in the end, or like even
throughout that whole thing, I didn't know what was going
to happen. I didn't know if my intuitions about this
were right. Maybe my mom is right. Like that's where
that like inherent conflict between two people who love each

(12:54):
other and want to support each other is interesting and valid.
This is like, this journey was a journey towards discovering
whose intuitions were right and what does that mean more broadly,
about how we have conversations with people when we're in
conflict with them.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Amanda, without giving away too much about what happens in
the film, did you get what you need?

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I got what I need because I did what I
needed to do. And I'm really I feel a great
amount of peace and relief because of that.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
And I'll say, like I've never seen Amanda look more
powerful than the day that she walked into that meeting
with the prosecutor because she had realized that no one
could stop her from being kind to him, which is
just a crazy thing to do. Of all the obstacles

(13:55):
that have been in her way in various capacities stopping
her from doing this or that, a barred door stopping
her from leaving like when she had set this thing
as her goal, no one could stop her. He couldn't
stop her, the media couldn't stop her, you know. And
to be both powerful and at peace, I think is
a really unique thing.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Because you describe Amander at the beginning of the documentary
Christopher is having a deep sadness. Has that lifted now, hmm?

Speaker 4 (14:23):
That's interesting. I mean, I think grief is one of
those feelings that you feel always the rest of your life,
because as life goes on, I mean, there are some
things that didn't survive this experience, you know, first and

(14:46):
foremost my roommate didn't survive, and like that never goes away,
and so just a deep like appreciation for the preciousness
of life is sort of founded upon the grief of
knowing how fragile it is and so I think that

(15:06):
part of me becoming a woman was learning to hold
that deep sadness and become more functional as a result
of it.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Amanda Knox, Christopher Robinson, thank you so much for your
time this morning. Really appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah, thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Thank you for having us.

Speaker 2 (15:27):
And that documentary Mouth of the Wolf, Amanda Knox Returns
to Italy is streaming on Disney Plus Now.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks It'd be from nine am Sunday,
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