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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Now. I don't know about you, but cruising the Mediterranean
aboard a luxury super yacht sounds like a dream holiday
to me, But for Captain Sandy Yawn, it's just a
day's work. Captain Sandy is the skipper in one of
the stars of the hugely popular reality show Below Deck Mediterranean.
Sandy and her crew host the rich and famous on
board the yacht, sailing the Mediterranean seas and experiencing the
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best the region has to offer. Season nine of Below
Deck Mediterranean is out now on Hey you. Captain Sandy
Yawn is here in New Zealand and has kindly come
into the studio. Good morning, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I love your country. From what I've seen by the
airplane and the landing I've had in the buildings, I
would love to see it.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
They haven't given you that.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
They're not They're not giving you any time to take
to the water here.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
You know, I'm here for a reason, so I knew that.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
And as you can tell from walking around this building,
this show it's really loved, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Absolutely Yes, every time I go somewhere that I haven't
been and I meet people and I see how happy
they are, it just says to me, Wow, keep doing
what you're doing, because you're doing a good job.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Now. The gorgeous This particular series features the gorgeous Asia,
who is a Kiwi Chief Stewart. Have you worked with
a lot of Kiwi's I have.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
In the past before.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Below Deck a Kiwi, Australian, a multi nationality crew, so
it's kind of cool.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
It's like United Nations on board.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Are the Keywi's good to work with?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yes? Absolutely, you know most people are. They're there because
they have a you know, they're adventurous. They want to
you know, journey across the world. And some don't.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Want to work hard. Some do work hard.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
So that's that's the line there, like, okay, great people,
but I need you to really work.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Asia is a hard worker. Most Kiwis are is the.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Crew that appears on the show. The only crew on board.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
No, there are engineers. You don't see, well you do.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
We introduced them at the beginning of the show and
then there's a first officer.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Because I did laugh.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
We sort of saw the engineers and then they disappear
and I wanted it was because.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Whether they just didn't really they were busy, or they
didn't want to be on it.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
No, because they cast you know us for the show.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
But the engineers, most of them, they're engineers for a reason.
They like staying in their engineering environment. Some have the
personalities where they don't mind being on camera.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
It is a lot of work, isn't it running a superyo.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Yes, it's a lot of work, absolutely, but it's worth it. So, yes,
you got to work hard, play hard. You get the
perks you get. You count that cash at the end
of the season.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
It's worth it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
What is the most ridiculous thing a geest has asked
of you and the team?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
You know, I don't look at it as every ridiculous request.
I look at it as that's their expectation. If we
can do it, great, If we can't, then we don't.
So we rarely say no, we can't do it. It's
rare and we just dangle the carrot over here. But
we could do this.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
It works. It's like Hollywood set ready.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Is there an expectation that was a struggle to meet.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Sometimes taking the boat off the dock. I think their expectation,
and I don't blame them. They pay money, they get
on board, they want to leave the dock, and I go, sorry.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
We can't.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
So then the crew have to work really hard to
figure out what to do on shore. I would think
that would be the biggest disappointment.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
The geests are they multimillionaires? Billionaires? Are they? They're up there,
aren't they? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So before below deck usually one person charters and we
they bring their friends. So in my career you're like
shoulder to shoulder with billionaires. I work for billionaires. That's
who hire me. I think our series is yes, they
have the means, but I think it's a different, different level.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
What do they like to work for? Say that again?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Oh the people they worked before below that incredible, just
great people, every one of them.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
They run businesses.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
They you know, they didn't get to that success without
knowing how to you know, take care of their people.
So every owner I've ever worked for billionaires have been
you know, I have their cell phone numbers. We we're
like family. It's you create that bond. It's pretty cool,
but there is a line there. You're there to serve,
but you will always forever be a part of each
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other's life because you work for them, you spend time
with them, you spend holidays with them, and that's.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
What are they like to care for.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
On the art, they have an expectation.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, so if their expectation isn't meant, they come to me,
so I make sure we meet it.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
You're not just the captain, but from what I've seen
of the show, you're also sometimes the crews.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Defect O mother. How do you find that?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Well, I don't look at it as being their mom,
but I do look at it as like a coach, right,
So like a football team, you just have to rally them.
You have to, you know, sometimes say hey, you can't
behave that way, but I'm gonna give you another opportunity.
It's about encouraging them and building them up so they
come out and they don't want to disappoint.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
So that's how I look at it.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Like, if it's a parent, they know they're always going
to have that parent, right, But if it's like more
like a coach, they know they could get kicked off
the team.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, Now, a coach is a much bitter description, much
better way of describing it.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Is it a transient life for you?
Speaker 5 (05:45):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It used to be.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Now it's a lot less, which, you know, I had
a great career before the show. I have a great
career doing the show, and I you know, we filmed
for six weeks, I come home. I'm not gone for
a year.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Before.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I used to get two months off a year, but
I was gone all the other you know, all the
other ten months, which is hard.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So in a way, this show, as you say, you're
six weeks on and then you go home and then
you come back. Is that how it kind of works, Yes,
consistently throughout it.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Yeah, you do the press like we're doing now.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
But and congratulations, I believe you got married recently, so
this must be a nice place to be where you're
not away for ten months of the year, much much
easier to have those good relationships and spend time with
friends and family.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yes, it was the best day of my life.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Congratulations. Are there many female captains in the business.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
There are not as many as men, and that's because
women want to have families and have babies. I think
our shows opened up opportunities to show people while their
careers in the industry, And to be honest, if you
know they're not ready to have children, then come because
the industry is open for that.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
How did you get into the industry?
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I started washing boats, Yeah, and a guy hired me
and he sent me to sea school.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
Did you grow up sailing? Did you always want to
be the water?
Speaker 5 (07:06):
No, we grew up water skiing.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So we always went on the weekends small boats, like
very small boats.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
So how do you go?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
So they send you to sea school and then how
do you end up? I mean, what's sort of the
process to get to.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
These So it's just like a pilot.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You need hours at sea, like you know, So we
have to accumulate certain amount of time and we have
to maintain that over the years. So we I renewed
my license every five years and with that I have
to retake certified radar class firefighting. There are certain things
you always have to redo.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
We certify in.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
What is it like learning to drive one of those yachts.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
It's fun, it's you know, intimidating, it's challenging, but it's rewarding.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
It's all of that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
You know, you have to have challenging moments and to
feel the reward, Like have you ever done anything and
not that's been hard to do? It's the reward is
the best part.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Because watching you both is quite amazing.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I had a good teacher, right.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Is it a bit like backing a car for you now?
Speaker 5 (08:11):
It is? It all depends on the team.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Well, that's the thing, isn't it. There's only so much you.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Can But you know, I make sure because I don't
hire the crew, so I make sure that I have
an eye on the side.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
I stay closer to the side.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
I can see because I don't trust their distances. So
I just if it's that much room, I'm fine.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
I mean, you were just holding up your hands there
you were. That's like what ten centimes? Yeah, I mean
that is not a lot of room, but it's.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Enough, right so in critical Yeah, but we have also fenders,
so that protects us.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
They are very large though they have yachts, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You've been part of the Below Deck show since I
think twenty and fifteen.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Did you know what you were getting into? Were you?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Were?
Speaker 4 (09:00):
You kind of keen to jump in and get rid
of clueless?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Completely clueless, no idea, had no know filming. I was like, okay,
I didn't think it would be so big, and now
it's worldwide. I don't care what country I'm in. People
know watch the show. I get messages from countries you've
never heard of before.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
It's a pretty great lifestyle. Yeah, you know, I does it.
Is there any downsides to it?
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Is?
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Is it really less money? But I get to be
home more.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
You know, the maritime industry offers lucrative careers if you
work hard.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
We don't have the beast places to cruise. I love the.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Mediterranean, that is my favorite place. I also think America.
I wish they'd do a show there because the East
Coast of the United States is one of the most
beautiful coastlines because there's it is. They have an intra
coastal waterway. And then you go up to New York's
cruise down Long Island Sound and to the Hampton's over
to Newport, which is where all the you know, the astors,
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the Vanderbilts, all the mansions are. And then you go
to Nantucket, Martha's Vineyard, and around to Boston and to Maine.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
With Bay Harbor. These places are spectacular. That's where I learned.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
The beginning of my career was cruising the East Coast.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Well sandy.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You know, people, surely you should be able to have
a chat to someone and just make a little suggestion
as to where you might like to go next.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Maybe, Hey, you yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
A few years back now, I believe you encountered pirates.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Is that right?
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So two thousand and seven, yeah, or two thousand and four,
I don't know, it's been a while.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Does that happen often?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
It does?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
But you know, I was chased by pirates. I was
actually chased by pirates in one more passage. So in
two thousand, when I was in the Red Sea, it
was the threat of pirates. We were rescued by warship,
but actually chased by pirates.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
You know, it was a real thing.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
And when ward passes between Cuba and Haiti, I called
the coast guard on my telephone. They can togzagged my
course and got into open water and lost the pirates.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Does that does that concern you? Do you see that
kind of behavior very often where you are? Or is
it pretty it's a pretty safe.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Now where I am.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It's great, you know, but pirates are thieves at sea.
So people we all load our toys because though you'll
wake up and they're gone.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Okay, they're still there.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
It's just the level of piracy, you know, are you
riving a safe, are you riving a bank or are.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
You taking a fugit skis off the back of about
Oh Sandy.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
It's just been a delight to meet you. Thank you
so much for coming in. Best of luck for the
rest of the season. Obviously, this is season nine, which
is out. Now, what's the future hold.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Going home and being with Leah, like staying home for
like a month, which will be really great. So that's
my future right now, brilliant.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Thanks for having me below.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Dick Mediterranean season nine. It's screening now on Hey You.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
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