April 11, 2026 • 14 mins
TV investigator David Lomas is set to discover more answers and reunite families in his new local documentary series.
David Lomas Breakthrough involves the investigative reporter going to great lengths - and often great distances - to find family members who've have lost touch with a particular blood relative.
Ahead of the series debuting on Three, he explained he's lost count of how many reunions he's formed, both on and off the air.
"We've done a heck of a lot, we've put a lot of people together who have approached us - and one person doesn't want to do it or the story, from a television perspective, doesn't quite stack up."
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News talks 'b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
David Lomas has made a career out of solving family
mysteries and reuniting families. Initially a crime journalist, David switched
to his own model of reality TV around eighteen years ago.
After all these years and many incarnations of his shows,
David has proven if there's someone to be found, he
is the man for the job. David is back with
an all news series, David Lomas Breakthrough is coming to
(00:35):
three this week and David Lomas joins me. Now, good morning,
Thank you so much for coming in.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Your background is an investigative journalist and crime reporter. So
have you always sort of had a little bit of
a thirst for finding the answers?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Well, that's journalism. Yeah, it's basically you want to find
the answers. And you know, when I was doing a
lot of general reporting, I stayed with crime reporting because
I love love the challenge of finding out about peace people,
why did someone do a crime, what happened? And just
the nosiness which is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And you were one of the and you were in
sort of the initial startup team for the Home show
in the late eighties, as well as sixty Minutes you
worked on the six PM bulletins. I've got to ask,
of course, what was it like working with Paul Holmes.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Paul was just amazing. I mean, you know, he's a
character and one of the things which when we started
Homes we wanted him to go out and do things
in public, and so we sort of needed to create
a bit of a persona for him. And the first
person which I think was the first out in public
(01:49):
sort of with a celebrity type interview, was with Kelly Evandon,
who was a top tennis player. So I said, well,
what we should do is get Paul out on the
tennis court and Kelly can serve. And Kelly told Kelly,
don't hold back, just whack them, you know, and not
wack homes, just the ball down. So we've got to
Paul in and carry Anne Evans, who was working on
(02:11):
the show at the time, she said, well, we'll get
them baggy white shorts and an old wooden tennis racket.
So he had Paul flopping around in his shorts and
Kelly just firing the ball down and Paul never got
with him coolie of it, but it was just great.
I mean it's one of those amazing people. You know.
You'd go out and we got him walking through a
(02:32):
crime scene one day and he was just really amazing,
just how respectful he was, but curious and you know,
as you know, he could talk to anyone and it
was just a really nice chap.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Am I right, there was he had been doing some
work in Gibsbon. Then there was that you were flying
back on a chopper and there was the helicopter crash
out at sea. You were on the helicopter with Paul Holmes,
weren't you, Yes, yeah, yeah, and it was a tragic
accident that there was a loss of one life. Was
that a life changing moment for you?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh? Absolutely, I mean I was, I think thirty five
or something like that. I sort of, you know, all
of a sudden thought, cracky, I'm going to get myself
sorted out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So how did you then move into this form of TV?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well? I was with TV and ZED for twenty almost
twenty years and doing all sorts of things, mainly a
lot of years doing current affairs, which is amazing. We
traveled the world all the time and just went to
amazing places. But and then I'd sort of done stuff
in the newsroom, run a few programs, and I sort
of I thought, I want to do something else now.
(03:42):
And then Julie Christie, who I'd worked with on the
Auckland Sun newspaper, she said to me, I've got a
new series which I'd like to try and do, which
was about taking young Maori back to the Mariah who
had lost connection and trying to do that. And she said,
what do I think of that? And I just said, well,
I think it'll be magic for the first two or
(04:05):
three but then it would start to feel a bit
of same same, And so we talked about it and
we decided we should just do Connecting Families. And I
was to come in and just do it for one
series and I was only going to direct it. And
we got halfway through one one episode filming it, and
(04:25):
then we got this phone call one day from a
woman saying, I'm desperate to find the father of my
daughter who's dying in a hospital in Brisbane. So all
of a sudden we had this desperate chase to try
and find this guy. Was sort of life and death
and when we started doing that, I went down to
christ Church to try and find this guy were and
(04:46):
I just said, film me because we had nothing else
to film, and so we rang up.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I'll sacrifice myself, I'll put myself out there here.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It was just to get the drama of it. And
we rang up this. We're trying to find a chap
Ted Paul, and we couldn't find him, but we could
find his phone son's phone number, and rang up the
sun and I said, I'm trying to get hold of
Ted and he said why and I said, well, I
have to tell him that before I can tell you.
And it was sort of drama and that that story.
(05:18):
We tracked head down to a little farmhouse way up
and they just in the bottom of the Southern Alps.
And there so I said to the camera and jump
out in the paddock, film through the window, and we'll
just see what happened, because we're going to tell this
guy he had a child. And it just became magic.
He says, nah, no way, no way, you know, and
(05:40):
we thought we'd lost the story. But then the next
day he rang us and he said, right, I'll do
the test. And he was just the most amazing man
flew the next day to Sydney to meet this girl,
walked into the hospital room and you know it was
just beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But you found that format film, that magical format.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
There was an accidental discovery sort of the accidental presenter
and way.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You've been doing this now for about seventeen eighteen years.
Do you know how many reunions you've had over that time?
Do you keep to count?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Not specific count, But it's somewhere over in the three hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Era, which is remarkable, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And that's the ones which we're filmed. We've done a
heck of a lot, put a lot of people together
who have approached us and one person doesn't want to
do it, or for story from a television perspective doesn't
quite stack up.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
But you've still gone through the process and.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Connect it and we've put them together.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yes, what makes you so good at it? I mean
you have been fondly referred to by the media as
the human location beacon.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I don't know, I just I mean, I honestly think
most people are decent and it's come through and when
you're doing this, you're dealing with decent people. My old
lady who was my partner, but sadly died. She called
the two truths. You'd go to someone and they'd have
one story about what happened, and another person would have
(07:12):
the other. Like a family split up, the husband leaves,
he thinks he can't contact again because the new boyfriend's
moved in and he doesn't want to upset family life,
and so the daughter or a child gets lost in that.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Is that generally what keeps people apart, misunderstandings.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
A hell of a lot of misunderstandings, I mean, and
other things I mean. Adoptions. Adoptions are a big one,
and again they are some of the toughest ones because
if it's a New Zealand adoption, often you'll find the
birth mother may never have told her current husband and
(07:53):
children about this child. And we've had some really really
sad ones where it was one where I rang up
a family down christ Church and a child was trying
to find his birth parents and rang them up and
we discovered the birth parents had gone on and got
(08:15):
married and had four more children, so four full siblings
of the person who approached us, and the parents said
they wouldn't meet because they hadn't told their children about it. Yeah,
it's a heck of a delicate situation those because but
I just said to the parents, well, you've made your
choice over the years. It's now your son's choice what
(08:38):
he does, and we will tell him who you are,
what we've found out, and it'll be his choice whether
he approaches you. And I don't know what happened because
I didn't keep in contact, but yeah, it's sad. I mean,
four full siblings and they say no, we don't want
them to know.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's a heartbreaking one, David, that one. But this is
the thing. The situations you deal with can be very
delicate and very sensitive. Have you kind of I mean,
you come across is a very respectful man. But have
you sort of learned how to talk to people in
their situations or there's a certain way to approach things.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, I suppose I have, but I'm not sure. It's
sort of. I mean, I'll go back way back to
my early journalism days. Do you know if somebody had
died or something like that, you'd often go and see
the family and ask them to talk about it, and
it was just you just did it in a kind way.
(09:41):
I mean, you know it was a terrible time for them,
so you just you don't go charging in and says
tell us about them, and just ask if they will talk.
And most people are very happy to talk because it's
a big moment of grief or happiness, depending on which
sort of thing we're doing.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Because I wonder whether you talk. You spoke before about misunderstandings,
and I wonder whether actually the two different people, the
two people on who you're trying to reconnect, I wonder
if they actually feel the same that they would really
like to reconnect but they don't know how to reach
out or to find somebody or do. You often find
that it's that's where you come in. You're kind of
(10:23):
like this mediator who's able to put people together.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Well, there was this amazing story actually at work where
a lady who does Gail, who does a lot of
our research and is are marvelous at genealogy and also
now are quite a DNA expert. And she had a
brother in England who she had moved to New Zealand
(10:49):
when she was quite young, got married and moved here,
and she had lost contact with this brother and had
been sort of ostracized from her family a little bit
because he was gay. And Gail had come to New
Zealand and she had had an address for him and
then it'd gone and now what was it, thirty or
(11:10):
forty years later, she was trying to find him and
she does all the stuff for us, rings people sometimes
and all that, and she was too scared to do it.
So you know, I've tracked it down Trevor in England
and he was ecstatic, and of course Gay was, so
we took him there and it was a wonderful reunion.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But a good example of, yeah, that people are just
a little bit fearful or you know, and people might
not know where to start. Is it hard to find
people these days? Or people quite easy to track down?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's getting harder because as we get more and more
secret about our lives. I mean, once upon a time
we had phone books which you could just look up
and you'd basically find everyone in New Zealand. I used
to in New Zealand used to have you could easily
access who owned homes, and since most people owned homes,
(12:03):
you could find people cell phones just a way to
phone book altogether. You know, someone in the government decided
that you shouldn't be able to find out who owns
a house. I mean, I mean, you can do it,
but it's a complicated system now and the mobile world,
not in the mobile phone world, but the people moving things.
Lots of New Zealanders go to Australia and they just
(12:25):
get lost over there. They're not necessarily citizens, so you
don't have that key thing where you can check an
electoral role. And if they don't own a house, it's
very hard to track people down.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Where do you start.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
One of the great things, which we always say, is
to go backwards, to go forwards, or go sideways. I mean,
if you're looking for a New Zealander in Australia, will
hopefully someone else in the family knows where they are,
so you go back and look that way. In Australia
you can go and search electoral roles and hopefully you
find there. And social media obviously, but that's you know,
(13:05):
just about everyone's closing their Facebook pages now, you know private.
So there's lots of hard things and there's a lot
of little things you do and you just hope they
come to fruition.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Why is it so important to find a close family member?
What kind of closure or healing have you seen it
give people?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Ah, it's amazing. What happens. I mean like it was
so many stories, but I mean one story, a New
Zealand woman was trying to find her dad and he
was a Frenchman who had come had a very lovely
relationship with the mother that traveled through Australia, had done
lots of things together, but the Frenchman was a wanderer
(13:47):
and he just wanted to carry on, so he moved
to when traveling went to South America and they lost
contact and Charmaine, many years later, came back trying to
find her dad and it was an incredible search. We
found him an Ecuador living on a chicken farm in
a little village way out sort of in western Amazon
(14:09):
jungle and turned up there and found him and he
was delighted to meet and that has been one of
the real enduring relationships. I mean, he's now ninety two,
still alive, he's come to New Zealand to see her,
always in contact and it's just an amazing connection and
(14:30):
it's just wonderful to see.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
David. I can't thank you enough for coming in today.
It's been lovey to chat. That was David Lomas. The
new show David Lomas Breakthrough starts this Tuesday on three
and three Now For
Speaker 1 (14:43):
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You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News talks 'b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
David Lomas has made a career out of solving family
mysteries and reuniting families. Initially a crime journalist, David switched
to his own model of reality TV around eighteen years ago.
After all these years and many incarnations of his shows,
David has proven if there's someone to be found, he
is the man for the job. David is back with
an all news series, David Lomas Breakthrough is coming to
(00:35):
three this week and David Lomas joins me. Now, good morning,
Thank you so much for coming in.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh, thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Your background is an investigative journalist and crime reporter. So
have you always sort of had a little bit of
a thirst for finding the answers?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Well, that's journalism. Yeah, it's basically you want to find
the answers. And you know, when I was doing a
lot of general reporting, I stayed with crime reporting because
I love love the challenge of finding out about peace people,
why did someone do a crime, what happened? And just
the nosiness which is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
And you were one of the and you were in
sort of the initial startup team for the Home show
in the late eighties, as well as sixty Minutes you
worked on the six PM bulletins. I've got to ask,
of course, what was it like working with Paul Holmes.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Paul was just amazing. I mean, you know, he's a
character and one of the things which when we started
Homes we wanted him to go out and do things
in public, and so we sort of needed to create
a bit of a persona for him. And the first
person which I think was the first out in public
(01:49):
sort of with a celebrity type interview, was with Kelly Evandon,
who was a top tennis player. So I said, well,
what we should do is get Paul out on the
tennis court and Kelly can serve. And Kelly told Kelly,
don't hold back, just whack them, you know, and not
wack homes, just the ball down. So we've got to
Paul in and carry Anne Evans, who was working on
(02:11):
the show at the time, she said, well, we'll get
them baggy white shorts and an old wooden tennis racket.
So he had Paul flopping around in his shorts and
Kelly just firing the ball down and Paul never got
with him coolie of it, but it was just great.
I mean it's one of those amazing people. You know.
You'd go out and we got him walking through a
(02:32):
crime scene one day and he was just really amazing,
just how respectful he was, but curious and you know,
as you know, he could talk to anyone and it
was just a really nice chap.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Am I right, there was he had been doing some
work in Gibsbon. Then there was that you were flying
back on a chopper and there was the helicopter crash
out at sea. You were on the helicopter with Paul Holmes,
weren't you, Yes, yeah, yeah, and it was a tragic
accident that there was a loss of one life. Was
that a life changing moment for you?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Oh? Absolutely, I mean I was, I think thirty five
or something like that. I sort of, you know, all
of a sudden thought, cracky, I'm going to get myself
sorted out a little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
So how did you then move into this form of TV?
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well? I was with TV and ZED for twenty almost
twenty years and doing all sorts of things, mainly a
lot of years doing current affairs, which is amazing. We
traveled the world all the time and just went to
amazing places. But and then I'd sort of done stuff
in the newsroom, run a few programs, and I sort
of I thought, I want to do something else now.
(03:42):
And then Julie Christie, who I'd worked with on the
Auckland Sun newspaper, she said to me, I've got a
new series which I'd like to try and do, which
was about taking young Maori back to the Mariah who
had lost connection and trying to do that. And she said,
what do I think of that? And I just said, well,
I think it'll be magic for the first two or
(04:05):
three but then it would start to feel a bit
of same same, And so we talked about it and
we decided we should just do Connecting Families. And I
was to come in and just do it for one
series and I was only going to direct it. And
we got halfway through one one episode filming it, and
(04:25):
then we got this phone call one day from a
woman saying, I'm desperate to find the father of my
daughter who's dying in a hospital in Brisbane. So all
of a sudden we had this desperate chase to try
and find this guy. Was sort of life and death
and when we started doing that, I went down to
christ Church to try and find this guy were and
(04:46):
I just said, film me because we had nothing else
to film, and so we rang up.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
I'll sacrifice myself, I'll put myself out there here.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
It was just to get the drama of it. And
we rang up this. We're trying to find a chap
Ted Paul, and we couldn't find him, but we could
find his phone son's phone number, and rang up the
sun and I said, I'm trying to get hold of
Ted and he said why and I said, well, I
have to tell him that before I can tell you.
And it was sort of drama and that that story.
(05:18):
We tracked head down to a little farmhouse way up
and they just in the bottom of the Southern Alps.
And there so I said to the camera and jump
out in the paddock, film through the window, and we'll
just see what happened, because we're going to tell this
guy he had a child. And it just became magic.
He says, nah, no way, no way, you know, and
(05:40):
we thought we'd lost the story. But then the next
day he rang us and he said, right, I'll do
the test. And he was just the most amazing man
flew the next day to Sydney to meet this girl,
walked into the hospital room and you know it was
just beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
But you found that format film, that magical format.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
There was an accidental discovery sort of the accidental presenter
and way.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
You've been doing this now for about seventeen eighteen years.
Do you know how many reunions you've had over that time?
Do you keep to count?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Not specific count, But it's somewhere over in the three hundred.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Era, which is remarkable, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
And that's the ones which we're filmed. We've done a
heck of a lot, put a lot of people together
who have approached us and one person doesn't want to
do it, or for story from a television perspective doesn't
quite stack up.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
But you've still gone through the process and.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Connect it and we've put them together.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yes, what makes you so good at it? I mean
you have been fondly referred to by the media as
the human location beacon.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I don't know, I just I mean, I honestly think
most people are decent and it's come through and when
you're doing this, you're dealing with decent people. My old
lady who was my partner, but sadly died. She called
the two truths. You'd go to someone and they'd have
one story about what happened, and another person would have
(07:12):
the other. Like a family split up, the husband leaves,
he thinks he can't contact again because the new boyfriend's
moved in and he doesn't want to upset family life,
and so the daughter or a child gets lost in that.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Is that generally what keeps people apart, misunderstandings.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
A hell of a lot of misunderstandings, I mean, and
other things I mean. Adoptions. Adoptions are a big one,
and again they are some of the toughest ones because
if it's a New Zealand adoption, often you'll find the
birth mother may never have told her current husband and
(07:53):
children about this child. And we've had some really really
sad ones where it was one where I rang up
a family down christ Church and a child was trying
to find his birth parents and rang them up and
we discovered the birth parents had gone on and got
(08:15):
married and had four more children, so four full siblings
of the person who approached us, and the parents said
they wouldn't meet because they hadn't told their children about it. Yeah,
it's a heck of a delicate situation those because but
I just said to the parents, well, you've made your
choice over the years. It's now your son's choice what
(08:38):
he does, and we will tell him who you are,
what we've found out, and it'll be his choice whether
he approaches you. And I don't know what happened because
I didn't keep in contact, but yeah, it's sad. I mean,
four full siblings and they say no, we don't want
them to know.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
It's a heartbreaking one, David, that one. But this is
the thing. The situations you deal with can be very
delicate and very sensitive. Have you kind of I mean,
you come across is a very respectful man. But have
you sort of learned how to talk to people in
their situations or there's a certain way to approach things.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Well, I suppose I have, but I'm not sure. It's
sort of. I mean, I'll go back way back to
my early journalism days. Do you know if somebody had
died or something like that, you'd often go and see
the family and ask them to talk about it, and
it was just you just did it in a kind way.
(09:41):
I mean, you know it was a terrible time for them,
so you just you don't go charging in and says
tell us about them, and just ask if they will talk.
And most people are very happy to talk because it's
a big moment of grief or happiness, depending on which
sort of thing we're doing.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Because I wonder whether you talk. You spoke before about misunderstandings,
and I wonder whether actually the two different people, the
two people on who you're trying to reconnect, I wonder
if they actually feel the same that they would really
like to reconnect but they don't know how to reach
out or to find somebody or do. You often find
that it's that's where you come in. You're kind of
(10:23):
like this mediator who's able to put people together.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Well, there was this amazing story actually at work where
a lady who does Gail, who does a lot of
our research and is are marvelous at genealogy and also
now are quite a DNA expert. And she had a
brother in England who she had moved to New Zealand
(10:49):
when she was quite young, got married and moved here,
and she had lost contact with this brother and had
been sort of ostracized from her family a little bit
because he was gay. And Gail had come to New
Zealand and she had had an address for him and
then it'd gone and now what was it, thirty or
(11:10):
forty years later, she was trying to find him and
she does all the stuff for us, rings people sometimes
and all that, and she was too scared to do it.
So you know, I've tracked it down Trevor in England
and he was ecstatic, and of course Gay was, so
we took him there and it was a wonderful reunion.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
But a good example of, yeah, that people are just
a little bit fearful or you know, and people might
not know where to start. Is it hard to find
people these days? Or people quite easy to track down?
Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's getting harder because as we get more and more
secret about our lives. I mean, once upon a time
we had phone books which you could just look up
and you'd basically find everyone in New Zealand. I used
to in New Zealand used to have you could easily
access who owned homes, and since most people owned homes,
(12:03):
you could find people cell phones just a way to
phone book altogether. You know, someone in the government decided
that you shouldn't be able to find out who owns
a house. I mean, I mean, you can do it,
but it's a complicated system now and the mobile world,
not in the mobile phone world, but the people moving things.
Lots of New Zealanders go to Australia and they just
(12:25):
get lost over there. They're not necessarily citizens, so you
don't have that key thing where you can check an
electoral role. And if they don't own a house, it's
very hard to track people down.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
Where do you start.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
One of the great things, which we always say, is
to go backwards, to go forwards, or go sideways. I mean,
if you're looking for a New Zealander in Australia, will
hopefully someone else in the family knows where they are,
so you go back and look that way. In Australia
you can go and search electoral roles and hopefully you
find there. And social media obviously, but that's you know,
(13:05):
just about everyone's closing their Facebook pages now, you know private.
So there's lots of hard things and there's a lot
of little things you do and you just hope they
come to fruition.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Why is it so important to find a close family member?
What kind of closure or healing have you seen it
give people?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Ah, it's amazing. What happens. I mean like it was
so many stories, but I mean one story, a New
Zealand woman was trying to find her dad and he
was a Frenchman who had come had a very lovely
relationship with the mother that traveled through Australia, had done
lots of things together, but the Frenchman was a wanderer
(13:47):
and he just wanted to carry on, so he moved
to when traveling went to South America and they lost
contact and Charmaine, many years later, came back trying to
find her dad and it was an incredible search. We
found him an Ecuador living on a chicken farm in
a little village way out sort of in western Amazon
(14:09):
jungle and turned up there and found him and he
was delighted to meet and that has been one of
the real enduring relationships. I mean, he's now ninety two,
still alive, he's come to New Zealand to see her,
always in contact and it's just an amazing connection and
(14:30):
it's just wonderful to see.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
David. I can't thank you enough for coming in today.
It's been lovey to chat. That was David Lomas. The
new show David Lomas Breakthrough starts this Tuesday on three
and three Now For
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