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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News talks 'b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Mike vander Allison, our resident chef, is with us.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good morning, Mike, Good morning, and we're going to keep
the Christmas inspiration going with some great ideas for the
Christmas menu, and we're going to talk about sides and
salads today.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, well, it's it's pretty crucial and particularly you know,
like if you think of daylight today, measure of Christmas
Day is twenty eight degrees lights today, you know it's
going to be total.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm up in the Hawks Bay, it probably will be.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's toasting. And so that the sides are crucial to
any sort of weather you're serving turkey whatever. The protein
and the sides are probably the most important part I
think of a Christmas Day, even more so than dessert.
And that's that's saying something. So when it comes to side,
what are we what are we looking for in regards
to sides and salads? So I think balance is probably
(01:04):
a big thing that would come to my mind. So
you're going sweet versus tart, You're going heavy and creamy
versus light and crispy, So you know, what you don't
want to be doing is serving up everything that's say,
mayonnaise based or cream based. So if you've got a
potato salad and then you're serving that alongside a heavy
mayonnaise based cold saw, and then you're serving that alongside
(01:27):
some heavy grutt and potatoes that are cooked and cream.
You know, all these things are going to end up
with all your guests and your family lying in the
corner asleep by three o'clock in the afternoon. So think
of the classic potato salad and then match that up
with a crispy lettuce salad, you know, with a simple
dressing like go lemon juice, mustard, a little bit of
(01:49):
olive or salt, pepper done, you know. So it's it's
finding that balance in your sides.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Okay, give me something to think, you know, You're give
me quite a lot to think about that. I don't
put that much ef and I go, I want, I eat.
I love that salad. I like that one. I'll do this,
this and this, but no, a little bit more thought
would be very.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
A little bit. So you think raw raw salads versus
cook salads, so you know you're going you beetroot, carrot
pumpkin seeds. I'm going to match that with a ready
tart sort of lime yogurt dressing, and then go I'm
going to have a cook salad, which might be your
potato salad, and I'm going to keep that quite light,
so I'm just going to make a pesto. I'm just
going to dress it with a pesto. So try and
(02:27):
keep things as light as you can, because bear in mind,
after your your main course, you are diving into probably
Pavlovas and green.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Gotta leave room for that. You've got a couple of
recipes for us today, and we'll make sure that we
get all those up on our website. Which one would
you like to take us through?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Probably the charred cauliflower, just because cauliflower will be still
looking reasonably good come Christmas.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Excellent.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So this is called an Emberg charred culiflower. And I
have spoken about this before and it's probably is. It
would have to be in my top five salads to
serve it anytime, no matter what the occasion. So go
ahead of cauliflower. Bring a large pot of board, more
water to the boil, heavily season that with some salt.
Take your whole cauliflower drop that, and or you can
(03:12):
if you want to speed that, you can cut your
cauliflower into large florettes. Drop that and this will take
two minutes. Two to three minutes after that time, take
it out, plunge it into ice water to stop that
cooking and overcooking instantly. And then once it's called pull
it out, drain it, drizzle it with a little bit
of olive oil and a little bit of salt, a
little bit of pepper, and then fire that onto a barbecue.
(03:34):
So this is called ember fire char char charred couliflower.
So think of an open fire, think of a raging
hot barbecue. You need maximum heat for this, So take
your cauliflower put onto that barbecue and get it really
charred so the outside has got those nice bits of
darkness to them. And then once that's done, pulling mack
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in into a large bowl, and then comes all the
important other ingredients that makes a salad so special, and
there's not a lot to them. So one knob of
like a large knob of ginger, peel that, and then
finally micro playing that flat leaf parsi. You want about
a cup to a half maybe a cup of actual
chopped flat leaf parsi, and then a cup of palms in.
(04:18):
So think of a good palmsan for this, Regina palmsano
granted pedando. Finally grate that on your microplane. Add that
in and this would probably be the only time in
a lot of recipes that I actually want you to
use extra virgion olive bill for this because I want
that business. I want the flavor of the oil. So
about four tablespoons and extra virgion olive bill. Maybe season
it up a little bit more, a bit more crack pepper,
(04:39):
a little bit more flaky salt. Give that a toss
if you want. You could swee some fresh lemon juice
over that and then serve that straight away. And it's
the most simple but really flavorsome salad with that charred coliflower,
the ginger and the palmsan and the parsley all kind
of coming together in a in a pretty cool marriage, both.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
These salads that you've also got roasted carrots with mint
emulsion and spice chickpeas. These it be my meal, I'd
make these, had that it's not my meal.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, oien is maybe a but turkey or a little
sliced ham and Bob's your auntie, You're all done.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It's always important. I like, We've got members of our household,
some like meat, some don't. So you know, if you
often the salad becomes the main meal and then there
might be a bit of protein on the side. If
somebody can't, you couldn't, couldn't possibly survive without a little
bit of it.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So next week I'm actually talking about the protein. So
I can't ever think about what I'm gonna which protein
I'm actually gonna do a recipe for, because I can't
do a rest before all the No.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Do do you always have a turkey a Christmas?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
We don't. Our tradition is a Dutch dish called cow scottle,
and it's it's braised beef served with cold potato, pickles,
gurkins and those real tiny little pickled white onions with mayonnaise,
tomatoes and lettuce for scottle.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Just imagine how the afternoon is going to play out
at your place. I love it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Yeah, delicious, Thank you so much, Mike.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
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