February 28, 2026 • 15 mins
Physicist professor Brian Cox is a bit of a rockstar in the science world.
When he’s not hosting his BBC shows, Brian is touring the world making science engaging and accessible.
He performed his last show to over half a million people globally - and now he’s back and apparently bigger than ever, with his 'Emergence' show set to kick off in June.
"The show really tells the story - it starts with 1600, goes to now, which is only 400 years later, we know a tremendous amount about the universe and how it operates and how old it is, and so on."
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Physicist Professor Brian Cox. It's a bit of a rock star.
Not only does he have a number one pop song
tows name, but he's also a world record holding science communicator.
When he's not hosting his BBC shows, Brian is touring
the world making science engaging and accessible. He performed his
last show Horizon to over half a million people globally
(00:34):
and now he's back and apparently bigger than ever. His
new show Emergence is coming to New Zealand in June.
Professor Brian Cox, good.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Morning, good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You are bringing your show Emergence here to New Zealand
in June. You've said it's your most ambitious show yet.
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I think it looks very beautiful, I hope at one level,
So that's one answer. But it starts with a story
from sixteen ten about Johannes Kapler across the Childs Bridge
in Prague in a New Year's snowstorm, and he wrote
a very beautiful book called The Six Cornered Snowflake about
(01:13):
the simple question why are snowflakes? Six cornered. But what's
really wonderful about that question is that many historians site
that time about sixteen hundred in Europe as the beginning
of modern science, because the time when people start to
ask questions about nature, try to look for patterns in nature,
(01:34):
and crucially realize that there's new knowledge to be gained.
So there are things that are not known, and that's exciting.
And so the show really tells the story starts with
sixteen hundred, goes to now it's only four hundred years later.
We know a tremendous amount about the universe and how
it operates and how old it is and so on.
(01:56):
But also it focuses on the things that we don't know,
which are the most exciting things.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So what inspired it?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was inspired? I think that this this book. I've
always loved Kepler's book because he's very funny. So I
don't know if you know Kepler is he knew Galileo,
for example, so he's around about the same time as Galileo,
just after Copernicus. And I've always loved the book because
it's very funny but also asked very deep questions, and
you know, to put this in context at the time
(02:28):
we're talking about a time when really no science was known.
That the things that were known were the things that
the ancient Greek knew. So the picture of the universe
at the time was the Earth at the center and
everything goes around the Earth. And people had just started
to debate whether that was true. But so it was
very It's a very exciting book to read because you see,
(02:51):
I suppose the beginnings of the modern mind in that book.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's an interesting thought, as you say, this is sort
of when we started to you know, the beginning of
the sort of modern science. We started to learn so
much more. Are we still learning at the same rate
as we did then when it comes to science?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I mean, I think that the rate is faster, faster
than ever. But the wonderful thing I think it was,
I think it was who was who? He said? I
can't remember who was, but someone, Oh it's John Wheeler,
the great physicist, said that we live on this on
an island of knowledge in an ocean of ignorance. But
(03:34):
as the island of our knowledge increases, so did the
shores of our ignorance. I think it's a wonderful quote.
So although we know a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
More, we also know that we don't know a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, we know that we don't know a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Because I was wondering, because you with your show Horizon,
you know, it was hugely popular. I mean I think
didn't you break some sort of Guinness Book of records
with that show? I think nearly half a million people
attended that tour, Yeah, which is extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I always joke though, I always joke that there's not
an enormous amount of competition. It's a very specific world record,
the most number of people that have attended a science lecture.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Basically that I wonder, even in the space of starting
to tour a show, does the things change, does the
information change? Does the knowledge change?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
This is the most exciting thing for me. One of
the things that's central to the show is that when
new results come in, I try I put them in
the show as long as they're in part of the
narrative of the show, And the narrative really is how
we discovered our place in the universe and crucially what
we don't know. So there are new images coming in
all the time. The James Webspace Telescope, for example, is
(04:52):
the most magnificent instrument that's taken images of the sky
every day come in that are beautiful. There's also an
observatory that I have that I put results in from
called the Vera Rubin Observatory, and that takes these old
track high resolution images of the sky or every week
because we're looking for things that change in the sky.
(05:12):
And there's one image that I show, one of the
first images from the Vera Rubin Observatory, which had ten
million galaxies in a single photograph. So there's some magnificent,
picturesque and beautiful results coming in all the time, and
as soon as I see one, I put it in
the show.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Speaking of space, I know that you're very passionate about it.
Is there a science topic that works better for a
show than other sort of topics.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I think you're right that so astronomy is the most
picturesque of sciences, I would say, I mean, actually, maybe
some biologists will disagree with me. It's obviously beautiful scenes
on Earth, But in terms of physics, certainly astronomy is
the most picturesque. But actually in this show, for the
first time, I do talk about my subject. To my
(06:03):
subjects is particle physics, which is the building blocks of
the world, and that it's harder to visualize. In fact,
we don't know how to visualize an electron or a
fundamental particle. But it fits into this exploration that Kepler started.
I mean, the answer to this question Kepler asked in
(06:23):
sixteen ten about the snowflake is the shape of water molecules,
And the shape of water molecules is to do with
quantum mechanics and the building blocks of the molecules and
the things. So Kepler could never have known the answer
to the question. So there is an element of I diet.
The first thing I do in the show is dive
in as far as we can go to the building
(06:44):
blocks of matter to the edge of our understanding, and
then switch and go out to the edge of the
observable universe and to the edge of our understanding.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
The top of some of these topics are quite complex, experiant,
I mean, you have this incredible ability. You've been able
to captivate an audience when dealing with these quite complicated
and had to understand topics. Is that something you've always
been able to do or is it something that you've
kind of learned to communicate over the years.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Oh, I learned how to do it very much so
the I mean it comes. I mean I began, you know,
in universities, doing research and then teaching, and I think
anyone who's listening to this, who's a teacher at any
level will know that the more you teach, the more
you not only understand how to explain things, but the
(07:32):
more you understand. Because it's one of the central ideas
in the show actually that the ability to say I
don't understand that is the foundation of modern science, which
is the foundation of our civilization ultimately, And so that's
what the more I do it that the more I
try to explain things, then the more I find out
where my knowledge stops then, and that's the most enjoyable
(07:54):
bit because then I have to go and find out.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Do you also get a little bit of a buzz
from the fact that you are taking science and topics
like this into the mainstream and giving people hooked in
informing them.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I mean, it's vitally important. I mean, the serious centers
to that question is that my hero Carl Sagan said
it a long time ago that we live in a civilization,
in societies that rest on the foundations of science, and
so really, if we don't try, if those of us
(08:33):
that do science don't try to explain, not not necessarily
the fact. It doesn't matter if people know there are
two trillion galaxies in the observable universe, I suppose, But
it does matter if people have a glimpse of how
we acquire reliable knowledge about the world, because that knowledge
could be it could be feeding too public health policy,
(08:54):
or environmental policy or whatever. Virtually all policy actually are
some component of data and knowledge and understanding in it.
So I think it's extremely important for us to go
out and talk about what we're doing, talk about the results,
which after all, everybody owns, you know, in our countries,
(09:14):
everybody pays taxes, and the taxes goes to generating this knowledge.
So people have a right to know. But also it's
vitally important that the process by which we acquire the knowledge.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Is visible, absolutely, and of course we want that accessibility
of science. That's hugely important, as you say, particularly at
a time like that like now, where it's been challenged.
How do you deal with things like misinformation or deep fakes?
Do you deal with it? Is it something that needs
to be acknowledged or do you just stick to the message.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
No, I think it's one of the most important questions
that we face. And it's not only in science, of course,
in politics and elsewhere. Reliable information is the foundation of
a democracy. You can't have a functioning democracy if you
don't have a collective knowledge of fact. And so I'm
(10:07):
extremely worried about it. I mean, I'm you know, I
myself that there are fakes of me all over the
place on the Internet, and you know it kind of
they're not they're not very good yet, but I bet
they'll be indistinguishable from me in about six months, because
the progress is remarkable. And you might say it as
a matter you know, so what, but it matters if
you're talking about politicians or you're talking about decision makers
(10:29):
or you know that the the even for me, the
you know, people to an extent trust what I say,
and so if there are lots of avatars of me
out there talking nonsense, then it's very difficult, I think
for the average person to figure out what's facts and
what's finnction. So I think it's one of the central
(10:50):
issues of our age, actually how to deal with this information.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Brian can I can I go back to the topic
of space, because I think we're all fascinated by space,
and I think it's as simple as the fact that
it is that that good old cliche that being the
last frontier which ins to explore space excite you the most.
At the moment, I.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Think all of it actually in a very real sense
because of one of my jobs at the moment is
working with the UN on space policy, and so I
have a little job doing that, and it's been fascinating
to see what the challenges are because when you talk
(11:35):
of space, you know, we tend to think of either
science fiction or indeed space telescopes and science and so on,
but actually our economies are fundamentally interlinked and entwined with
the space environment. In the UK, there's a number in
the UK which I found astonishing, which is the eighteen
percent of our GDP in the UK is reliant on
(11:57):
space based infrastructure eighteen percent and it's growing extremely quickly.
That will be the same in New Zealand are very
similar And so I think that when we talk about
space we have to both retain the sense of wonder
and awe because it is, in a very real sense
the frontier, the frontier of our knowledge and a physical frontier.
(12:18):
But also notice that we all use it every day,
and so that the things that happen in space, the
way that it's managed and the way that we expand
outwards does affect everybody, even if they don't know about it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Brian. When you mentioned the infrastructure, is that things like satellites.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's satellites to obviously satellite navigation is one of them GPS,
but actually that provides timing information for financial transactions for it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Right, Yeah, So it's.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I think the thing to understand is there really is
no such thing now as the space spaced economy and
the economy or the environment of space and the environment
of Earth. They are entwined inexorably into our and will
become more so. And that's that's not something to be
worried about.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It's tremendously exciting and it's expanding our capabilities and so on.
But it's also something that we don't it's not been
there very long. So it's one of those areas of growth,
one of those areas that we all rely on that
really we don't fully understand how to make work yet
for everybody. So it's a great challenge.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Oh no, it's totally fascinating, Brian. While I have you
I must ask with the music is still part of
your life? I know it has been for a long time,
and I think it was it twenty twenty four that
you managed to reunite with Dream and play Glastonbury.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We did yeah with our song things can Only Get Better,
which is now thirty years old, that song, and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Still a theme song, isn't it the society?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But music? I should say the music in the show
is so some of it's composed, it's new music, and
I work with a wonderful composer called Dario Marionelli who's
a film composer who has an oscar actually, and that
he's composed some new music for the show. So so
music is central to the show as well.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, it's an audio and visual feast, doesn't it? This
this performance that this music career that you had, maybe
maybe that's contributed to your performance. Now you're you know,
you're you're comfortable on the stage and things.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's good. It's a good question because I was a
keyboard player, right, so I stand at the back, have
a load of equipment, so it's very different.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
It's still on the stage.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's more like a lead singer though isn't it. In
my job now, it's more like I'm on my own
talking to people, whereas you can be really shy as
a keyboard player and just you know, sit there in
the shadows and make everything work.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Oh, Professor Brian Cox, it's been a delight to talk
to you. Thank you so much, and we look forward
to the show.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Thank you. I'm really looking forward to it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
That was Professor Brian Cox's show. Emergence comes to New
Zealand this June for three shows. Tickets are on sale now.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks it B from nine am Sunday,
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from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Physicist Professor Brian Cox. It's a bit of a rock star.
Not only does he have a number one pop song
tows name, but he's also a world record holding science communicator.
When he's not hosting his BBC shows, Brian is touring
the world making science engaging and accessible. He performed his
last show Horizon to over half a million people globally
(00:34):
and now he's back and apparently bigger than ever. His
new show Emergence is coming to New Zealand in June.
Professor Brian Cox, good.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Morning, good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
You are bringing your show Emergence here to New Zealand
in June. You've said it's your most ambitious show yet.
Why is that?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I think it looks very beautiful, I hope at one level,
So that's one answer. But it starts with a story
from sixteen ten about Johannes Kapler across the Childs Bridge
in Prague in a New Year's snowstorm, and he wrote
a very beautiful book called The Six Cornered Snowflake about
(01:13):
the simple question why are snowflakes? Six cornered. But what's
really wonderful about that question is that many historians site
that time about sixteen hundred in Europe as the beginning
of modern science, because the time when people start to
ask questions about nature, try to look for patterns in nature,
(01:34):
and crucially realize that there's new knowledge to be gained.
So there are things that are not known, and that's exciting.
And so the show really tells the story starts with
sixteen hundred, goes to now it's only four hundred years later.
We know a tremendous amount about the universe and how
it operates and how old it is and so on.
(01:56):
But also it focuses on the things that we don't know,
which are the most exciting things.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
So what inspired it?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
It was inspired? I think that this this book. I've
always loved Kepler's book because he's very funny. So I
don't know if you know Kepler is he knew Galileo,
for example, so he's around about the same time as Galileo,
just after Copernicus. And I've always loved the book because
it's very funny but also asked very deep questions, and
you know, to put this in context at the time
(02:28):
we're talking about a time when really no science was known.
That the things that were known were the things that
the ancient Greek knew. So the picture of the universe
at the time was the Earth at the center and
everything goes around the Earth. And people had just started
to debate whether that was true. But so it was
very It's a very exciting book to read because you see,
(02:51):
I suppose the beginnings of the modern mind in that book.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's an interesting thought, as you say, this is sort
of when we started to you know, the beginning of
the sort of modern science. We started to learn so
much more. Are we still learning at the same rate
as we did then when it comes to science?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
I mean, I think that the rate is faster, faster
than ever. But the wonderful thing I think it was,
I think it was who was who? He said? I
can't remember who was, but someone, Oh it's John Wheeler,
the great physicist, said that we live on this on
an island of knowledge in an ocean of ignorance. But
(03:34):
as the island of our knowledge increases, so did the
shores of our ignorance. I think it's a wonderful quote.
So although we know a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
More, we also know that we don't know a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, yeah, we know that we don't know a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Because I was wondering, because you with your show Horizon,
you know, it was hugely popular. I mean I think
didn't you break some sort of Guinness Book of records
with that show? I think nearly half a million people
attended that tour, Yeah, which is extraordinary.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I always joke though, I always joke that there's not
an enormous amount of competition. It's a very specific world record,
the most number of people that have attended a science lecture.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Basically that I wonder, even in the space of starting
to tour a show, does the things change, does the
information change? Does the knowledge change?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
This is the most exciting thing for me. One of
the things that's central to the show is that when
new results come in, I try I put them in
the show as long as they're in part of the
narrative of the show, And the narrative really is how
we discovered our place in the universe and crucially what
we don't know. So there are new images coming in
all the time. The James Webspace Telescope, for example, is
(04:52):
the most magnificent instrument that's taken images of the sky
every day come in that are beautiful. There's also an
observatory that I have that I put results in from
called the Vera Rubin Observatory, and that takes these old
track high resolution images of the sky or every week
because we're looking for things that change in the sky.
(05:12):
And there's one image that I show, one of the
first images from the Vera Rubin Observatory, which had ten
million galaxies in a single photograph. So there's some magnificent,
picturesque and beautiful results coming in all the time, and
as soon as I see one, I put it in
the show.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Speaking of space, I know that you're very passionate about it.
Is there a science topic that works better for a
show than other sort of topics.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I think you're right that so astronomy is the most
picturesque of sciences, I would say, I mean, actually, maybe
some biologists will disagree with me. It's obviously beautiful scenes
on Earth, But in terms of physics, certainly astronomy is
the most picturesque. But actually in this show, for the
first time, I do talk about my subject. To my
(06:03):
subjects is particle physics, which is the building blocks of
the world, and that it's harder to visualize. In fact,
we don't know how to visualize an electron or a
fundamental particle. But it fits into this exploration that Kepler started.
I mean, the answer to this question Kepler asked in
(06:23):
sixteen ten about the snowflake is the shape of water molecules,
And the shape of water molecules is to do with
quantum mechanics and the building blocks of the molecules and
the things. So Kepler could never have known the answer
to the question. So there is an element of I diet.
The first thing I do in the show is dive
in as far as we can go to the building
(06:44):
blocks of matter to the edge of our understanding, and
then switch and go out to the edge of the
observable universe and to the edge of our understanding.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
The top of some of these topics are quite complex, experiant,
I mean, you have this incredible ability. You've been able
to captivate an audience when dealing with these quite complicated
and had to understand topics. Is that something you've always
been able to do or is it something that you've
kind of learned to communicate over the years.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Oh, I learned how to do it very much so
the I mean it comes. I mean I began, you know,
in universities, doing research and then teaching, and I think
anyone who's listening to this, who's a teacher at any
level will know that the more you teach, the more
you not only understand how to explain things, but the
(07:32):
more you understand. Because it's one of the central ideas
in the show actually that the ability to say I
don't understand that is the foundation of modern science, which
is the foundation of our civilization ultimately, And so that's
what the more I do it that the more I
try to explain things, then the more I find out
where my knowledge stops then, and that's the most enjoyable
(07:54):
bit because then I have to go and find out.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Do you also get a little bit of a buzz
from the fact that you are taking science and topics
like this into the mainstream and giving people hooked in
informing them.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I mean, it's vitally important. I mean, the serious centers
to that question is that my hero Carl Sagan said
it a long time ago that we live in a civilization,
in societies that rest on the foundations of science, and
so really, if we don't try, if those of us
(08:33):
that do science don't try to explain, not not necessarily
the fact. It doesn't matter if people know there are
two trillion galaxies in the observable universe, I suppose, But
it does matter if people have a glimpse of how
we acquire reliable knowledge about the world, because that knowledge
could be it could be feeding too public health policy,
(08:54):
or environmental policy or whatever. Virtually all policy actually are
some component of data and knowledge and understanding in it.
So I think it's extremely important for us to go
out and talk about what we're doing, talk about the results,
which after all, everybody owns, you know, in our countries,
(09:14):
everybody pays taxes, and the taxes goes to generating this knowledge.
So people have a right to know. But also it's
vitally important that the process by which we acquire the knowledge.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Is visible, absolutely, and of course we want that accessibility
of science. That's hugely important, as you say, particularly at
a time like that like now, where it's been challenged.
How do you deal with things like misinformation or deep fakes?
Do you deal with it? Is it something that needs
to be acknowledged or do you just stick to the message.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
No, I think it's one of the most important questions
that we face. And it's not only in science, of course,
in politics and elsewhere. Reliable information is the foundation of
a democracy. You can't have a functioning democracy if you
don't have a collective knowledge of fact. And so I'm
(10:07):
extremely worried about it. I mean, I'm you know, I
myself that there are fakes of me all over the
place on the Internet, and you know it kind of
they're not they're not very good yet, but I bet
they'll be indistinguishable from me in about six months, because
the progress is remarkable. And you might say it as
a matter you know, so what, but it matters if
you're talking about politicians or you're talking about decision makers
(10:29):
or you know that the the even for me, the
you know, people to an extent trust what I say,
and so if there are lots of avatars of me
out there talking nonsense, then it's very difficult, I think
for the average person to figure out what's facts and
what's finnction. So I think it's one of the central
(10:50):
issues of our age, actually how to deal with this information.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Brian can I can I go back to the topic
of space, because I think we're all fascinated by space,
and I think it's as simple as the fact that
it is that that good old cliche that being the
last frontier which ins to explore space excite you the most.
At the moment, I.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Think all of it actually in a very real sense
because of one of my jobs at the moment is
working with the UN on space policy, and so I
have a little job doing that, and it's been fascinating
to see what the challenges are because when you talk
(11:35):
of space, you know, we tend to think of either
science fiction or indeed space telescopes and science and so on,
but actually our economies are fundamentally interlinked and entwined with
the space environment. In the UK, there's a number in
the UK which I found astonishing, which is the eighteen
percent of our GDP in the UK is reliant on
(11:57):
space based infrastructure eighteen percent and it's growing extremely quickly.
That will be the same in New Zealand are very
similar And so I think that when we talk about
space we have to both retain the sense of wonder
and awe because it is, in a very real sense
the frontier, the frontier of our knowledge and a physical frontier.
(12:18):
But also notice that we all use it every day,
and so that the things that happen in space, the
way that it's managed and the way that we expand
outwards does affect everybody, even if they don't know about it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Brian. When you mentioned the infrastructure, is that things like satellites.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
It's satellites to obviously satellite navigation is one of them GPS,
but actually that provides timing information for financial transactions for it.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Right, Yeah, So it's.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I think the thing to understand is there really is
no such thing now as the space spaced economy and
the economy or the environment of space and the environment
of Earth. They are entwined inexorably into our and will
become more so. And that's that's not something to be
worried about.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
It's tremendously exciting and it's expanding our capabilities and so on.
But it's also something that we don't it's not been
there very long. So it's one of those areas of growth,
one of those areas that we all rely on that
really we don't fully understand how to make work yet
for everybody. So it's a great challenge.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Oh no, it's totally fascinating, Brian. While I have you
I must ask with the music is still part of
your life? I know it has been for a long time,
and I think it was it twenty twenty four that
you managed to reunite with Dream and play Glastonbury.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
We did yeah with our song things can Only Get Better,
which is now thirty years old, that song, and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Still a theme song, isn't it the society?
Speaker 3 (14:01):
But music? I should say the music in the show
is so some of it's composed, it's new music, and
I work with a wonderful composer called Dario Marionelli who's
a film composer who has an oscar actually, and that
he's composed some new music for the show. So so
music is central to the show as well.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
No, it's an audio and visual feast, doesn't it? This
this performance that this music career that you had, maybe
maybe that's contributed to your performance. Now you're you know,
you're you're comfortable on the stage and things.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
It's good. It's a good question because I was a
keyboard player, right, so I stand at the back, have
a load of equipment, so it's very different.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
It's still on the stage.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
It's more like a lead singer though isn't it. In
my job now, it's more like I'm on my own
talking to people, whereas you can be really shy as
a keyboard player and just you know, sit there in
the shadows and make everything work.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Oh, Professor Brian Cox, it's been a delight to talk
to you. Thank you so much, and we look forward
to the show.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Thank you. I'm really looking forward to it. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
That was Professor Brian Cox's show. Emergence comes to New
Zealand this June for three shows. Tickets are on sale now.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks it B from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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