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your calls of course, and you're we want you to
join the conversation on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
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you can text nine two nine two, and look, we
want to dig into the whole question about, you know,
the blocks that get in the way. You know, it's
easy to come up with a whole bunch of excuses
why you can't go to the gym a few times
a week, or why you can't even go to the
gym that one time a week, which then becomes the
excuse for the next time, or why you can't eat
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a balanced meal. And look, you know, too often we
tend to stand our own way when it comes from
improving a health and fitness. So why and how do
you stop it from happening? What are the motivational blocks
and how do you overcome them? How did you stop
yourself from getting in the way of your own own
sort of getting in the wave of improving yourself? Should
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I say? And anyway to discuss that, we want your
calls on O eight one hundred and eighty ten and
eighty text nine nine two and to dig into it
with me? Is the Butterbean Motivation founder? I mean, it's
all in the name, isn't it. Butterbean Motivation it's Dave Latelly.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Dave. How are you going, mate? You can see you brother.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Hey, you you look well, Actually you're looking you're looking
like you've been doing a bit of exercise.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
Yeah. I might look well, but I feel a thousand
so some starting with some boxing and had stairs this morning,
had a two hour boxing session yesterday, had stairs this morning.
Hang on stairs. That sounds unpleasant, Yes, it's not one
of my favorite Sunday What do you do? Just like
an hour and a half stairs, an hour and a
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half of yeah, just it's with our boxing gym, so yeah,
revel liga.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
It's just not so are you going up and downstairs?
Speaker 7 (03:14):
You do?
Speaker 6 (03:15):
You do five laps around the track first, and then
you do up and down, up and down, up and down.
I think it's like twenty five times. And then you
go off to another part of it and you do
five around times around. It's just a nightmare.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
What so well, I guess you can't escape it if
you've got you've made a commitment to what you're getting into.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
Yeah, boxing things, yeah, yeah, I've As a joke people
asked me when I got asked to, you know, have
a boxing match and tartanake Tartanaky explosion May sixteen and
I got you know, people asked me why are you
coming back? And I said, well, you can blame the
government as a joke. As a joke gets rally up
some calls for the today. So you know that we
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get so little support for our food bank. I've been
forced to come out of a time and be some
Paul bloke up in Tartanak, you just to raise some funds.
But really the real reason that was a laugh. The
real reason because I wanted to go. I needed a
goal with something.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You need a goal, so I mean, because yeah, it's funny,
I've been questioning myself. I'm enjoying exercise for the exercise sake,
but this in the back, I sort of thinking, oh
am I going to suddenly commit to some tragic middle
aged man and likera goal?
Speaker 6 (04:19):
You are now, aren't you.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
It's not theker yet, But I don't have the Likra.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
But I'm not a shacking bike. I've been.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
It's a second hand flash bike and that's the best
type I reckon. But yeah, it is that thing about
having a goal. Is that I mean because you have
been on the sort of the fitness track and with
the butterbean motivation helping a lot of people. Does everyone need?
Does everyone need a goal?
Speaker 6 (04:44):
I think what God order?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Like?
Speaker 6 (04:47):
You know, when I started, the goal was to you know,
I was twenty ten kilos and but the goal was
to get my children back. To do that, I had
to be you know, to be better myself. Yeah, and
you know, I got tired of not being out of
tie my shoelacers and just you know, sweating walking five minutes.
You know. It was it's half carrying that extra weight.
And so I had the goal of trying to lose
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weight in order to get these other things back in
my life. And so it's really important. And you know
with me now, I didn't need it, cause you can
get lost, you know. We I've been going on this
journey for twelve years, and yeah, the journey is a
roller coaster. People think it's just like you lose the
weight thing, you're done. It's because it's one thing. I mean,
because you know, you're a household name. It's one thing
to be sort of famous.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And you know, a likable guy. Everyone likes you.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
And that's that's my take on it anyway. But the
headlines don't delve into the journey that's going on over
those twelve years, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Yeah, it's a roller coaster and it's filled with ups
and downs and because life is tough and sometimes it
sucks more it's any good and that's that's but that's
the journey, you know. So it's understanding. You know, you
will fall over, like you will fail, you will like
you know, go through a real tough time. You just
got to keep you just gotta keep getting out.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Is that actually one of the things that we don't
actually anticipate, you know, we because when you get the
you get in the flush of going Man, I found something,
a new exercise. I'm into it, and I'm getting up
when I'm doing it three or four times a day
a week, sorry, steady on. And yet you will have
those days where you're like, oh god, because I mean
I have I didn't have a bad one like that,
(06:22):
but I've been feeling when you were feeling better inside,
you sort of think you're feeling good outside. And I
was sort of thinking I'm not looking too bad. Then
I caught myself at a particular angle and thought, oh god,
I'm a miserable side. I just looked dreadful. But I
mean that's a freck or wab putting it. But people
will have those up those those tough timesn't they.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Yeah, understand, it's part of it, you know, It's just
part of the journey. And like you know, a big
part of being healthy is about being healthy and being
feeling good within yourself. It's it's not just the scale,
you know, it can be how you're close that you
know as well.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
That's those are the tough things because I tend to
think those are the ones that are going to create
the disappointment because you might be really exercising and then
you look in the I look no different. So for me,
I think that's a real the fishhook that sort of goal.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
Is when you're worried about the scale, it definitely is.
It's a lot of you can just you know, you
can measure yourself, but also it's how you're performing, you know,
So a lot of you don't need a personal trainer,
you know. I started by working walking around one Tree
Hill for thirty minutes that summit there, and I just
try and keep beating them out of laps I was
doing so I knew I was getting fitter because I
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was always constantly beating those laps, the numbers.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I actually I don't think I've ever related to that
until much later in life, like because I never used
to enjoy running, so I always feel baggered when it
comes in from a run and be relieved it was over.
But with lately, with changing the way I'm doing it, yeah,
not pushing it so hard, and then all of a
sudden you notice an improvement. But it's not instant, but god,
it's satisfying. It's like, oh my gosh, I was fit
of that time. That was easier.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Yeah, And it's only even if it's a half a
lap more or a couple of steps more, still more,
you know, and then what you're you'll notice is that
your recovery is quicker. So you know you'll go from
being really out of breath too, and you know in
a few seconds you'll be okay to talk again. And
it's then you know you're really fit. You know, when
you're running with these guys that are talking the whole time,
that's where you know you're fit. A lot of times
(08:15):
I'm just going yep, yep, they can hold a whole conversation.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Well that actually, that's from what I'm learning. That's when
you're building that Arabic base. You should still be able
to have not an intense conversation about life, but you
should be able to contribute.
Speaker 6 (08:30):
Yeah, you should be able to hold a conversation while
you're going.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Hey, by the way, before we get into the motivational
blocks that you've seen people stumble against. And look, we
love your calls and we love you basically, we'd love
you to join the conversation with us. So give us
a call. But this fight you're doing, just tell us
a bit about that, because you know it's to raise
money for Butterbean motivation.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
So what is it? Yeah, I mean it's a boxing match,
corporate boxing match down in Tartanake at the TSB Arena. Yes,
I'm looking forward to it. It's I'm training really hard.
Just you or a bunch of it's a bunch, it's
a whole big show. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm looking training
really hard. And I said to my coach last week, well,
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I was just not like it was a hard training
And I said, man, I said, I don't know what's
wrong with me. This is so hard. And he said, well,
last time you box, you were in your thirties you're
now forty seven, And I went, oh, yeah, true, so
just be just be kinder on yourself and and it
just takes a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
I don't like to think, you know what I mean boxing,
We don't want to see you get hurt.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
Yeah yeah, I mean family.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
You like about that. I mean, of course we got
you know when you were back, when you were you know,
you're full of your lots of you have been a flair.
You know, you were a colorful character, and you know,
you knew you looked like you're you know, this guy's
up for the punishment. He's going to get in all
dish out. Whereas now I just thought, I don't want
to get you. I don't want don't don't want you
to eat a black eye.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
Yeah yeah, well I don't need this. Had some had
some training hard, and it should.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I should be Okay, why who do you know who
you're fighting?
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I'm fighting shoes. I forgot his name. That's not a
good sign of boxing. But he's he's a local guys.
It always tends to sell more when it's a local guy.
So it was a whole big thing. They had to
sort of, you know, do a video to call me out.
So it was you know what the interesting part was
the callouts back in the days were really I mean,
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people didn't like me, they hated me, and so there
was a lot of you know really yeah, there was
a lot of really anti butter. The butter Bean was
a character. But now the videos that came in, they
were really respectful. It was quite funny. You know, I
really love his work. I love the opportunity to help
help him to raise me.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
You should play the before It must be some before.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
And after together to call me, you know, Butter Chicken's Peter.
That's him.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
There we go, Petere. Is he a big guy.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
I think he's a little bit smaller than me. He's
a bit younger, so okay, smaller but younger. Yeah. I
had to be careful because I've had seventeen fights, but
I haven't fought in seven years, so you know, you
couldn't have someone with the similar fights but is active.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah okay, well okay, hey, now look, you know with
with people who when people come to Butter mean motivation,
you know, they obviously they want to improve themselves. What
do you what do you find to be the biggest
motivational uh positives? You know, the things that work for
people and where do they where do they come undone
(11:28):
with motivation. I mean, it's a difficult question to answer
in a way.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
But I spoke to a guy yesterday. I hadn't seen
or heard from HM in a while, and he just
lost his wife and he's and he was in a
he's in a dark place, and I was just trying
to get him to come back to BBM. So we're organized.
So I don't have a car to organize. You are
left someone to come pick you up. And he just said,
(11:53):
I just don't think I can walk through the door,
just worried about what everyone thinks. I haven't been there.
I've let myself go.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
The judgment and it's a massive emotional block.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Yeah, And it was just massive, That's what it was,
an emotional block. And he just couldn't get past it,
you know. So I said, looks, even if we just meet,
let's just start small. We'll just catch up, you know,
let's have a coffee and we'll just start building up
your confidence again, because he used to be with us
a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Because in a way, I mean, it would feel like
emotionally the toughest thing, but I always want you must think.
I mean, my gut reaction would be that if he
did go through the door, then the response to people
would probably blow him away and it would be in
a massive emotional release as well. Be terrified of that.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Yeah, it's just like I think you know that the
fear of the fear of judgment, the fear of it's
it's an overwhelming thing. You know that he knows he's
he's got a lot of work to do. He feels
like he's let me down, let BBM down. It's all
these but it's all things that are It's the mind.
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It's so powerful. You know that in a critic can
fill your head with negativity and everything, every reason why
you shouldn't start again.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
What is your what I mean? Have you have you
battled with that in a critic yourself all the time?
You still do?
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Still do?
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It's what's an example? I mean, we don't want to
you know, yeah, just whatever you want to share. What's
an example for the times when you really when it?
Speaker 6 (13:24):
So when I first started, it was at its loudest.
You know this voice and we all have it. This
voice would just be in my head telling me how
useless I was that I look at look at me.
I've got nothing. I've lost my family, I've lost my money.
You're staying at your sister's house, on your niece's bed.
You should kill yourself. And it was constant, constant round around,
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just just would not stop. And how I silenced it
was I exercised, That's what. And I had to exercise
all the time because when I wasn't. When I was exercising,
my brain wasn't thinking. It was just just just do
the exercise. I didn't. I didn't have time to think
about how crap things were.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Gradually, you're not its own way drag you out of it?
Or did Was that just the bandage that you wore
until you've got other help with those things?
Speaker 6 (14:13):
Yeah, I guess it's my You know, some people try
and marks things with alcohol and drugs and you know food.
I guess that's what I turned to training instead. And
I really still haven't got in counseling or anything that either.
So it is tough, you know, so I always I
still turn to training, That's what I do. You know,
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in still as, when life gets tough, you start thinking
about everything bad in your life, you know, the one
hard thing you go through the every then everything else
seems worse as well.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Hey, look, we want your calls about this. What are
the what are the blocks you've experienced with motivation and
what did you how did you actually overcome with it?
But overcome it because you know, it's one thing to
you know, have established successfully established to have it. But
a lot of the time we get in our own way.
So we're going to take actually we'll take some calls
and we'll take a call now. Actually, familiar voice, Stewart,
(15:04):
Hello to me, how are you mate?
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Good?
Speaker 5 (15:06):
Stuart Nash age that, But I mean, I love what
you do. He made it absolutely outstanding. And in this
day and age where you know, sometimes men struggle to
be men and to find the place in this world,
this is just outstanding. But so love your work. But
you know the thing that I find, I mean, I'm
a you know, I'm closer to closer to sixty than
(15:26):
I am to fifty. The thing is a people don't
realize it. Eighty percent of this is diet. So you've
got to get your diet right. You know, you can't
go for a walk around Mounteeden or up one tree
hill and go back and sit in the couch and
drink coconat, fish and chips, So you've got to do that.
The other thing also that I find, I've always found
(15:47):
is it's easy to make excuses. And you know, you
talk about motivation, it's so easy to make excuses, and
you've got to get over that. And that's the hardest thing.
But once you take that first step, you know, and
if you're doing it in the morning, the hardest thing
is to put the feet on the floor, or in
the evening after work when you're tired, you know, just
getting in the car, just getting through the gym, or
putting the shoes on. That's the hardest thing. But but
(16:09):
I look, I'll slightly disagree with you in terms of
you've got to have a goal. You know, people up
and ask me, you know, what's your goal? What are
you training for? When I'm training for life? All right,
I'm training for longevity. So when i'm you know, when
I'm seventy years old or eighty years old, I can
pick up my grandkids and I can still walk. And
you're still fitting your mobile because all the data shows,
you know, the older you get, the harder it is.
(16:30):
But the older you get you have one of those
falls and if you're not strong, or you're not stable,
or or you're not fit, then you're in trouble.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
That is a goal, though, isn't that, Stuart? I mean
that that is a goal. It's like it's it's it's
to keep on. I don't want to sound it is
to keep winning in a way. I mean, I don't
that sounds crass. It sounds like, yeah, it.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Doesn't sound cramps what it's about. And we've got to
celebrate that, you know, we've got to celebrate winning, mate.
But you know when people say, are you're training for
a mouth and you're training for a contest. No, no, no,
I'm just training for life.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
I thought you were just training for those guys it.
You know, I've seen what your guns.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
You know, I love it. And yeah, I don't know.
I trained sort of, you know, eight to ten, eight
to twelve times a week, but you know, yeah, But
the thing is, like I said, it's always easy to
find excuses. People are tired, people are busy, and this
sort of care. But if but if you don't make
that effort, you don't take that first step. But the
other thing is, you're right, my son just started at
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the gym and I celebrate mate, And he said, how
long will it take for me to, you know, to
show some soci games And I said, well by Christmas.
If you gon't hard by Christmas, you might put on
seven or eight kg. So, you know, the young guys
sometimes think, oh, well, you know, I'll start in January
and by if I don't look like Arnold by by July,
then I'll give up. But you just can't. I mean,
I've been doing this for forty years and I just love it,
(17:53):
love it more now than I ever have.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
Do you ever have any blocks in terms of you know,
some days you don't feel like what.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Are your tough days? Because you are known for being
in good shape and you're right into it. But what
about what I mean, what started for you? And what
you must have had a few moments of like I
don't like this type of exercise. I'll try this, you
know I don't.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Actually I didn't sound like the blocks for me is
if you know, if I go two days without exercise,
I just don't feel particularly good for me. It's it's
I mean, we talk about physical health and and that's
really really important. But you know, guys like you better
be in JK. John Kerwin. You know this sort of
stuff is so important for me intealth, and you know
(18:36):
it's not just us saying, oh you feel good. All
the science and all the data shows if you're fit
and healthy you're working out, not only is it good
for your for your body, but it's just as good
for your mind and almost more important.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
Right yea one hundred percent. I mean exercise saved my life.
That's one hundred percent. I'd always feel better at the
end of it. And it's like you said, you know,
our pillars are BBM as starting, staying consistant, being around
good people, and no excuses.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Yeah, yeah, Stewart, It's just one thing. So the exercise
is one thing. But Dave touched on nutrition. Did you
when you I don't know how long you maybe you've
exercised all your life and always loved it, But did
you at some stage have to make a change with
what you're eating because I think, Look, I'm not into
the fish and chips anyway, but you know there's certain
things I enjoy and I'm going.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
To struggle and give them up one hundred per cent.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I did.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
I mean, you know, I'm pretty much if I'm honstoringly
about an eighty percent keito now. But but you know,
you've got to have treats. You can't you can't completely
give up on life. But I think by Grants go
Field got a feat of Grant's go for it. He
runs a Human Potential cent through out of the aute
eating millenium. He talks about the fact that a bloke
s getted about eighty percent life. Okay, so you can
have sort of three or four cheat meals then then
(19:45):
you're on the right track. But but you know, if
you're having Coca pops for breakfast and a pie and
a coke for lunch, and yeah, the way for dinner.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
They put the way you put ash you is, we
put it's fine to have a treat, but if you're
treating yourself every day, that's no longer a treat. That's
just the way you eat. That's all. That's why I
think about it.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I agree with that. And you know that's the thing
that sends me as you go into Pack and Save
and there's almost a eyell dedicated to Coca Cola. We've
got to get over this stuff. That that's uff is
just there's just poison, mate. But the thing that you're
doing about being that I love is you give people
that motivation, right you say, okay, this is how you
start it, and we're going to keep you on track
until it's gone from being a chore into a habit,
(20:22):
then from a habit into a lifestyle, because it's actually
got to be a lifestyle. But it does take a
little while. I mean, you know, you said you started
at two hundred kg. That's big, big boy. But but
once it becomes a lifestyle and you see what you
can actually do and you see that okay, if I
if I, if I swap out coke for water, then
then it actually makes a difference and you feel so good. Ah,
(20:45):
it's just a legend. I love it. Love what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Thanks mate, Thanks guys much.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
All right.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
I mean I think that's the biggest one of the
challenges is with motivation is I mean, you've got to
get you do have to get. You've got to have
little small, little milestones I think to start with, because well, no,
you come and you're.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
You know, we help people that are three four hundred kilos.
The goal is, like Stewey said, the goal is life.
That's the goal they want to live, you know, and
then it's all it's good to have little other milestones
as you're going, your little goals, you know, simple things
like driving a car. Yeah yeah, people, some people we
help can't fit behind, steering will leaving the house, you know,
(21:29):
being able to get down and off the ground by themselves,
all these different things, you know. So it's good to
have big goals and little goals as you're going. It
just keeps you. It really does help.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Hey, Look, we'd love you to join our conversation. That's
what it's about us, you know. I mean, there's other
ways of putting us like you give us a call
and tell us your story, but we want you to
join our conversation. Give us a call. Eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. We're talking about motivation and how how
you overcome the blocks, the resistance you have to make
a real change in your life. With Dave Letelli the
butter Bean, when's your fight?
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Dave?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
By the way, May sixteen, Oh.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Oh, okay, a couple of months, it's thankfully, it's a
couple of months. Back at the moment, twenty eight past four,
Yes News Talks, there'd be with Dave Latelly. He's the
founder of Butterbean motivation. Look, and actually, you know what
it's always worth, you know when you roll off the
titles of what people have done it, but it's a
it's an amazing thing that Dave's achieved with the people
he's helped throughout of course of his life. And we're
talking about motivation, your blocks, and we want your thoughts
(22:24):
on it and how to overcome them and how did
you find the motivation to change your life?
Speaker 5 (22:28):
And Marie hello, hey, hey it does good.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Thanks?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Good hear me?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Okay, yeah, you sound great. Were you having a little
hum there just before we said alone?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I was.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Really really tired and I couldn't string my sentences together.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
So what did they do?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I thought, I move? I thought I'd better move.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Good moment.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, yeah, we talk right?
Speaker 4 (22:56):
What would you like to share with us?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I was just hearing I haven't heard all of the show.
I just heard maybe like the last twenty five minutes
or something, but I was just hearing you talk about
motivation and blocks and basically yourself talk. So I just
wanted to say a couple of tips that I've I
think are pretty helpful around around how we talk to
ourselves and when you're thinking, basically around you're thinking as well.
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I guess when you're thinking is getting pretty down on yourself.
And I think, can I heard you say something about,
you know, sometimes you feel a bit useless. You might
say that to yourself all that kind of thing. So
you mentioned that, is it, David?
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Well, yeah, you mentioned David about how basically you chose
moving or exercise instead of as I think I heard
you say, some people, you know, use other things to
change topic, I guess, or to anyway, that's what I
was hearing you talk about. And I actually before I
say that, one thing I want to say where this
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kind of comes from is also with people that chose
or that maybe get that real adrenaline fix or they're
like super fit, or they're always exercising. That kind of
thing when you possibly get injured, or if you have
a time where you can't move, that is so freaking solmsing,
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like it's really really hard. And I've I guess I've
had a little bit of experience on that thing of
when I can't do the exercises that I used to
do or that I loved, or something's happening with your
body and you just are in recovery for four six
months and it's really really I've had to think differently
about it. And so first of all, I would say
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that any kind of moving, even like I've seen, like
with older people or anything like that, even if you're
just like me dancing in my feet, or if you
can just wiggle your toes, then wiggle your toes, if
you can just so just moving, please, any kind of
moving your body loves it and it just does help.
Doesn't have to be a marathon and a fricking twenty case.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I think you've raised something really important there. Memory is
because Dave, you know it's one thing too when you're
not injured, you know you've got some severe challenges, but
you get moving. I dread getting injured because we.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Run programs called from the Couch where you're literally the
idea of training people from the couch to be able
to get up and stand up for half an hour.
That's the whole goal. And a lot of it starts
from just you know, jogging on the spot, slitting down,
like moving your arms and legs and all these types
of things. And we always say to people just take
it slow and build build that foundation, because the last,
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the last thing you need is to get injured, so
it's just take it real slow and build up, build up.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
Sorry, did you have something.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
You want to add?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Yeah, I do it, So just on the on the
thinking side of it. On the self talk and stuff,
there's a couple of things. One there's something that a
friend of mine does and he's really good at it.
And another one is just for me also going to
say it's kind of about I guess honest self talk,
I would say, but I don't, but in a gentle
way as well. But like it's kind of like if
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you're saying things like we'll just take your example, like
if you're sitting there kind of going, oh god, I'm
so useless, it's like, actually, like call yourself out on it.
Are you useless? Actually no, I'm not useless. I can
do this, this and this. But do you know what
I mean, Like it's not an honest statement, it's not
real and so kind of challenging yourself a bit, but
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not not in an angry way. I'm like, oh my god,
you're such a blah blah blah. Well like consciously sometimes
I've had to be able to do that, and that's
kind of it's kind of nice because I have you
know I've had maybe if I've been around some people
that have put me down a bit or something like that,
and then people aren't around, it's like, actually, I'm the
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only one talking to myself now, Like it's what I
say to myself. I don't have to talk to myself
that way. I don't have to put myself down. I
want to be nice to myself. And that that wasn't
a really nice thing for me to discover. And the
other one is a made of mine. Who's I love
his humor. I love is he kind of we call
itself puffery. He might be like he'll make like jokes
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about his one his six pack being a one peck
and just he kind of look like he can laugh
at himself, but it's not in a yeah, like a
good way, and like that's such a cool thing if
you can kind of just smile about it and go, oh,
well you might you might have a bit of a
bit of a tire going on, but let's just you know,
let's just take me in the tire and let's go
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do this thing anyway, and you know, kind of lighten
it up a little, you know.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Yeah, be a bit kinder to yourself. Yeah, thanks, am Ray,
thanks for your caller, We appreciate it. Eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty would love your calls. Actually dig into
it a bit more on with Dave because he will
have seen people come up with some pretty common blocks
and that get in the way and how you know,
what are the one of some suggestions to get over that.
I wait one hundred and eighty ten eighty though, if
you want to join our conversation, we'd love you too.
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It's twenty two minutes to five news Talks. He'd be talk, said,
be talking about motivation with Dave Lettelly. He's founder of
Butterbean Motivation. Actually, it was funny that Anne Marie went
who spoke to us before? As she said, I missed
your name? Is it David?
Speaker 6 (28:16):
I thought?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
Do you ever can get called David?
Speaker 6 (28:20):
Not? No, David's my dad? Oh, oh you are literally
Dave Daves. Oh I am David officially. Yeah. Most people
call me Dave or Butterbean or the bean.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Yeah, because normally I only get the full name Timothy
if I've been either very naughty or I don't know
anyway back in the old days. Hey, yeah, what are
the most common you must you must see it all
the time that the obstacles that you see psychologically people
have to overcome again and again when it comes to
sort of you know, making changes in their lives. Have
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you seen any particular common.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Problems that the common The most common excuse, I guess
is time. You know at the time, I don't have
the time, yeah, you know. And the other thing is,
you know it's expensive to eat healthy. You know so,
and it is, but you can't use it. And when
I started, people would say that this is years ago,
people say it's so expensive your how this? Well, no,
you can't use that excuse for me because I had
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no money when I started, literally, you know, had zero,
nothing in my pocket. But I was educated how to
make the best choices that were available to me.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
How did that happen?
Speaker 6 (29:25):
You know? If you my sport, you know I played
rugby league and or Sydney Bears also I had that
sport background, so I understood how to make better choices.
And that's what we do now, just educate how to
make better choices. Actually, what is.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Okay, let's deal with that. That is it expensive to
eat healthily? It can be if you want phil at steak.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
Yeah, stop, that's what I'm so. You know, we take
from the couch crew to the supermarket, you know, to
pack and save and you know, teaching how to shop
in season, choosing cheaper cuts of meat. You know, it
is possible to make better choices, you know. And it's
not cheap to buy KFC.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
It's not cheap to shop anywhere. I mean, you know
the soup weekly shopping if you are.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
It is yeah, you know, we could spend four orive
hundred dollars with that with our family. You know, in
a week there's there's five of us at home, so
it's expensive.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
It's it is quite surprising to me. And you're like,
you know, and I think the thing that irritates me
a little bit is you know, fruit, fruit and vegetables
can be and I mean, look, you look for the
seasonal stuff, but I mean I bought some peaches the
other night. It's like it was expensive, yeah, and I
just think, okay, well they were delicious.
Speaker 6 (30:33):
And it's you know, people put themselves last around a time,
you know, pants I just don't have the time. I'm
up here and working blah blah blah and all these things.
I see. Well, you know, we always put ourselves last
but you know, you say that you do anything for
your children. You know, I'm out here working my butt
off for them, you know. But you say you'll die
for your children. I always say, you'll say you're die
for future. Well, you know, would you live for them?
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You must? You must live for them, you know. So
that's about sacrificing, you know, and planning, and you're putting
your putting yourself first and your health first is not
self fish, you know. So too often we think that
I'm just I'm last.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Actually that I think that's a really good point, isn't
it. It ties in with even the negative messaging that Anne
Marie was talking about, how you can give that. But
if you reframe that like it's like the people who
want think of the people who care about you, who
want you to live for you, it's pretty it's pretty
powerful stuff in fact, to be honest, the reason I'm
trying to I've found a form of size I hope
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I can stick with is because I want to be
a dad who can it's not about tomorrow. But I'm
a little bit like I mean, maybe it's Stuart Nash,
but you know what it Stuart was saying, you want
to for yourself, but also for your family. You want
to be able to participate and just keep moving.
Speaker 6 (31:45):
You know. It's all our children want. I mean, it's
fine that the material things are cool and all the
holidays and cool and all these things, but all they
really need is you being the healthiest and happiest version
of yourself. That's it.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Hey, those trips to the supermarket that you do with
the people at Butterbean Motivation, imagine that. Is that quite
a fun trip? Or is it?
Speaker 6 (32:05):
People is daunting because you know if a lot of
the times they haven't actually been out of the house
in a very long time. You know, a lot of
these people are hiding away from the world. They're not
living there existing, you know. So we get we get
them comfortable in BBM, and we get them moving feeling
better about yourself. But a big part of what we
do is the nutritional education, you know, so we get
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them in our community kitchen cooking, you know, so that
they can teach their children because all the stuff's not
passed down anymore.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Well, there's something as well, community because if they're hiding
away from the world, I mean in a way that
you I can see why people here get involved with
your organization get really passionate about it because they end
up with a sense of belonging and I can't have
to think I think that's somehow that is so important.
Speaker 6 (32:53):
Yeah, we all want to belong to something. I mean,
it's it's in us. It's innate you to belong to something.
And it's like, you know, the way he's community in
our society used to be. You know, that takes a
village to raise a baby, all these things, and unfortunately
that's gone now, but we're trying to bring that back. Yeah,
there's a guy called Matthew who was he could he
could tell you exactly how many tiles were on his
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neighbor's roof the pattern and how many were broken from
his window because he's that's all He stayed out of
for about ten years. So did he end up Yep,
he ended up in BBM and he's doing really well.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
What led him to make that change.
Speaker 6 (33:29):
His sisters, Actually his sisters pulled him along. He was
on literally he was he was on a on a
like a walking frame and it took him a long
time to get from the car park into actually our gym.
And he had a health scare. Whereas in hot with
a heart condition, and the doctor said to him, if
you didn't start BBM, you wouldn't have made it through this,
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you know.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
So so how did I mean? That's from his system.
That's for him getting in the door, to coming and
back the second.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
Time once he was there. So I just try and
say tell people, once you get there, you'll understand. Because
they hear gym and they think, oh no, I just
don't belong in the gym. But you know, once they're
there and they feel the vibe and they see it's
not no one's judging them, and they see people that
look just like them, they see people that are just
a little bit ahead of them. So all of our
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mentors and our trainers have all had that lived experience.
Some of them have reached their goals, some of them
are still on their journey, so there's always someone that
they can reach, like so I can get there, I
can get to where James is, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Because that can be a bit of intimidating, isn't it.
I mean not can be. It is intimidating that you
go to the gym and you see all the gym
bods and even looks amazing, and you think, you.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Know, yeah, and you know, even I feel that if
I go into a commercial gym. That's where we started
our first ever commercial gym in glen Eeden called BBM Ultimate,
and it's done really well because people just want to
belong to something that's you know, it's just such a
great community environment.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
So how's how look, we don't actually tell you what.
We might just take a break. We'll come back and
I just want to dig into a little bit more
about you know, what you know, the Butterbean Motivation gyms
and things, and what you guys are trying to achieve
with fundraising and things. We'll get into that and just
to Teck as well. But if you like to join us,
we might have time for another core. Got a few
texts to get onto as well. Oh, eight hundred and
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eighty ten eighty. But it's twelve minutes to five news talk,
said B. It's news talk, said B. It's just coming
up to eight minutes to five with Dave Lettelli, founder
of Butterbean Motivation. Actually got a good text here, Dave
about motivation. It's an interesting question about the chicken in
the egg, says Hi. There, motivation doesn't lead to action,
action leads to motivation. Not original to me, however, very true. Start,
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just start. There is something in it's almost like, don't
think about something. Yeah, just put one foot in the sneaker,
then the next and move.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Well. These are the pillars of BBM. Which is how
I started my journey and helped thousands was these are
the pillars here. Start now, Stay consistent, being consistent, understanding
no one's perfect, and you will get knocked down. You've
got to keep getting up. Third thing, be around good
people that lift you up, not drag you down. Don't
be around people that are eating KFC all the time.
It's hard not to eat AFC, you know. And no
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excuses and no judgments. And it's all anchored by a
strong wine purpose because you know that actually one should
have started.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
I should have started with this thought as well, because
I think a lot of people think about motivation, motivation
and you just think, think, think too much. It's like
people just put on a pair of shoes and move.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Yeah, like people. You know, I do a lot of
speech on this, and I say, you know, you might
be sitting there thinking, man, I'm more motivated. I'm going
to I'm going to start on Monday. Today's Wednesday, you know,
So you know you've got to just just don't overthink
it and start now. Because I tell you what, I've
visited a lot of hospitals. You know, the person I've
visited in the hospitals, the heaviest person was weigh four
hundred kilos. That the way I'm on the bed. Many
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people that I've visited never made it out, and they
all have one thing in common. They'd give anything to
have an opportunity to go back in time and start.
So stop overthinking it and start small. Like you said,
get a door walk five minutes, walk back, that's ten minutes. Hey,
you know what I was looking at.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
But but butter being motivation and them and that you
know that you've got the big logo on the gym
and stuff, and I was just thinking it came from
humble beginnings. And it always amazes me when somebody manages
to establish something which is you know.
Speaker 6 (37:14):
It's it's it's a big deal.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
So but remind us because how did it actually start?
Because it's one thing to do a couple of celebrity
boxing matches and everyone sort of either loves or hates you,
and then all of a sudden you're helping people. How
did that start in the small stages?
Speaker 6 (37:29):
Yeah, well was literally just you know, helping one person.
That's why people say, you know, never underestimate the power
of helping one person. Because I helped, I got helped,
and then I helped paying it forward. Our BBM started
in West Auckland and trustadium helping my father in law's mate.
In South Auckland. We started helping one lady in a
driveway and I just thought, I wonder who else.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Wants to guess she used to go around and help
her out?
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Yep, there was you know, I turn up. There was
also people to reach out there follow me on boxing.
See I'm losing weight. You know, can you come to
help my husband or my brother or whoever.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
So you just go around and say just to chat
to turn up.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
And train them for some people to train and on
their bed all for free, trained them from their couch
and you know, give them an education around eating, get
the family education.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
So when did that How did that go from being
you know just one off sort of Dave's popping around
to give us a few pointers or help me to
the off the couch program.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Yeah, we there's been no real plan it's happened pretty organically.
Speaker 4 (38:25):
But you know it's amazing.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
Yeah, we moved into our first gym, you know, line
foundation guy. He said to me in you know, Blue Sky,
if money wasn't a problem, what would you want. So
I'd love my own gym, something that people can belong
to and hang out and you could go out and
do it. Then I went out and done and then
to get the funding. But I made it happen, you know,
And that's that's how you know, I was on the
hook for one hundred and ten grand a year and
we made it happen. And that's what we that's what
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established it. And we I didn't want to just run
normal boot camps. I wanted to run from the couch
in there. So we built these big benches which were
like the couch. You know. We had no equipment, just
just body weight our equipments around our hips, you know.
And it's just that's how all started.
Speaker 4 (39:05):
So if people want to get involved with it, I mean, look,
it's it's not something you just to everyone. Can you've
got your own gym. You started your own gym where
people can actually become members as well.
Speaker 6 (39:15):
Front the couch is free and it's it's the important
thing with from the couches, it's wrapped around with clinical
support so we have total health care soever all the
doctors and nurses around the people as well, so we
can you know, it's a it's a fence before the
cliff right. Too often people are waiting just down at
the bottom. That's what this is. It's a fence so
we can wrap the clinicals and how how.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
Do you assess because you imagine you'd have more people
than there are spots for each.
Speaker 6 (39:41):
Yep, it's always a wait list. But we do our
best to help as many people as we can. So
you're going to help them, So that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
Hey, actually I do love that. But about motivation, it's like,
stop thinking about it, just to take action today and
then see where it goes.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Discipline keeps you going. Once you're motivated, you've got to
be disciplined.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Okay, well just say that to yourself next time you're
thinking you've got another stairs work out coming out, it's
like maybe anyway, Hey, Dave, great to see you man,
thank you, thanks so much, a good time. We will
be back and just but thanks to Dave Lttelli from
Butterbean motivation. We'll be back with Martin wores Is with
us talking about ethical investing, Does it matter where your
money comes from? Eight hundred eighty ten eighty will be
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