June 27, 2026 • 41 mins
This week on The Panel, Tim Beveridge is joined by Journalist Wilhelmina O'Keeffe and Fieldays CEO Richard Lindroos to discuss the biggest stories from this week.
Winston Peters is taking shots at his coalition partners, raising questions about the FTA and the Health and Safety bill, Paul Goldsmith and Chris Finlayson are also trading blows. And Tim and his guests give their live commentary of the All Whites versus Belgium.
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But we look ahead to later in the show where
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will property ever become part of retirement planning again or
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the Sports Rap, Christopher Reeve, who I call Superman for
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obvious reasons, will be joining us. We can talk about
the Warriors and the F one, but of course right
now we're going to be giving you updates as the
All Whites are playing against Belgium. And we'll give you updates.
And I said, Chris, what are we going to talk
about when it comes to sports rap? And he so,
we'll probably about the all whites losing. And he does
have had a bit of history for the commentator's curse,
(02:43):
So maybe you should put your money on that we're
going to win Belgium. Belgium will be nervous. Mind, you
will be nervous as well. So we'll keep you up
to date. Anything interesting happens, we will let you know
straight away. Anyway, lots to get into. Welcome to the
Weekend Collective. It is eight minutes past three. What the
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hell was What's that? Can you play that one again?
Lockers are a different one, sage, Oh that's a different
one that time. Oh, there's a whole lot of things
and new I never heard those. My guests are in hysterics,
don't talk. I haven't introduced you yet. First guest today
is a panelist. Oh god, those are priceless. He is
(03:28):
CEO of Field Days and I don't think I've met
someone who seems to be so plugged in with what's
going on around the place. Because everyone wants to go
to field Days, and everyone wants to talk and say
good ay, And you know he probably learns a few
secrets here and there which you won't share with us
because he's such a small sport. Damn people who are
trustworthy on information they've been given in private anyway, So
(03:49):
I've made far too much of that. Is Richard Lindrew's
Hello Richard, how are you good afternoon?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Good afternoon listeners post field days for me?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So are you chilled out?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Now?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Very chilled?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Was it tense? Leave it leading into it?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
It's just busy. It's twenty four to seven occupied to
the mental and physical capacity, and all the politicians were there.
I know you're going to talk about it later.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well we might touch on that anyway. Hey, good good
to having you here. Mate. And I didn't describe my
next guest. She's into pr she's a broadcast, she's done
all sorts of things, and I jokingly said she's in
New Zealand's answer to Emily in Paris. But Wilhelmina in
Auckland doesn't quite bring to its Willahelmina O Keith.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's the TM version of the Netflix series Hi Cut.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Everyone, Hi, the sequel.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's a bit of a come down from the bright
lights of Paris.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I've just been watching that.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Actually, Scotch Emily in Paris really doesn't seem like your
cup of tea.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh well has a cup of team which is in Paris.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm a bit of a Francophile, so you know, even
though it's not you know, it's pretty pretty polished, idealistic,
fantasy version of living in either Paris or Rome. How
are you?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm really good, thanks, How are you excellent?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Just chicken beverage? What?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah? That was wild?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That was quite something, wasn't it. Anyway? Nice to have
you guys here. Look, let's get it. By the way,
the World Cup with FIFA and the all whites and everything,
and we've got a run playing their game against Egypt.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Egypt has scored one nil to Egypt, but no action
on the New Zealand banty.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So if we win, we're in the last thirty two.
It's a fairly big if Richard give you give you reckons.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I used to I used to wait for FIFA. Actually,
years ago, I used to run this, did you so?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Put used to one?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What what haven't you done?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
What did you used to do?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I used to work for FIFA as a regional there
so I look at these games through a different lens,
but it's going to be tough. It's still nil nil
looking good. I think the gypsum plea pleased and that
looks like it was a safe there Ah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Running commentary. He's also been a commentator in the.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Past, and he's been an athlete as well. He worked
for FIFA. That's quite something, Richard.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Actually this this is your show, the Beverdge.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Beverage.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That one down never anyway? Well, A mean or have
you been have you been following it? I guess the
question would be have you decided to subscribe to you know,
to watching as many games as you can?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Look.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I'm definitely interested in it, but I haven't actually sat
down to fully watch a game from start to finish.
But I love the hype that's around it. Based on
the whiteboard out in the newsroom though, where everyone in
the news talk they'd be office appears to have guessed
what the score will be.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It doesn't look good for New Zealand doesn't.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Based on those those guesses out there, there's a couple
of really positive guesses on the score.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You saw the white board out there.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's still zero zero No I know, but.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We are eleven minutes in.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I know, but you know that the afternoon is young
and I'm an eternal optimist, so look and look even
if we sadly, if we if we do lose like
I think, if we can score like that's great as well.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh oh god, okay, the screen, the screen anyway, it's
still now all that's all you need to know now. Actually,
by the way, the other thing is, it's quite funny.
I said to one of my listeners on the overnight.
So I was talking about crackit. Im not really into
the cricket, and then I tuned into the cricket. It
was for the last game at the Oval. And the
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thing is about the viewing experience you get with the
camera angles and everything. It's it's a gorgeous venues and
with the with the cricket, we've let our sort of
our advantages slip a little bit, I gather, but well
we could still do it. But I really quite enjoy
watching test cricket and the English are so polite.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Well it helps when you've got the weather and a
few runs on the board in my great weather. I
mean this interesting watching the crowd, you know, what are
they wearing?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
What are they wearing?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Struggling with Yeah, Emily and Paris.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Your fashion Easter cricket.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
But I saw a bit of it last night and
I thought we had a we were going okay. But
then I woke up this morning I thought we aren't
going okay, but we'll see what.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I would have loved you to have have a take
on the fashion there, because then you could have thrown.
Then you could have thrown into the max. It would
have been. I used to work for FIFA, and then
I would.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I used to work for Shanel and then I went for.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Chanel in Paris and now I went for Field. Don't
do that.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
But you're talking about broadcast. Some of the vistas they
you know, the camera men they you know, there's moldible
came as they pick up different crowd scenes, and they
were looking very relaxed.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
The British.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Let's good, you're still in a cricket game. Run seems
like the place.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, come on, let's get into it. That stop talking
at yourself now. Look, I don't know would he be
happy that we're about to talk about him? Possibly, but
Winston Peters, so he's suddenly said, I you know, I've
seen these documents which show that, you know, the government's
shifting its its stance on Indian immigrants, and he's implying
(09:08):
that that New Zealand's changing the way they're going to
treat the applications. It's going to be stricter and everything.
And anyway, I would have thought he'd be happy with that,
because his rhetoric about the Indian Free Trade Agreement is
he doesn't want a whole lot of Indians coming here,
and all of a sudden he's defending them. But it's
just to me, it's, you know, he's God, I'm over Winston.
(09:29):
I just think it's just cheap politicking. He's a great
foreign minister. As a retail politician, he's just a hussy.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I worked it out before I came here this morning. Yeah,
that you have eighteen or nineteen more shows before the election.
So if you're over election politics now, eighteen more weekends
of you before Winston.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I was just to say, this is not over. Politics's
over Winston. I agree.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's just it's always seems like all roads lead back
to Winston, and there's always something that he sees or
does to get the headlined. Look, maybe it's a really
great example of probably mar and branding and PR strategy.
So he's probably nail that on the head, but it
does get a little bit tiresome. Sometimes the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Is sidly when every headline is about something that he said.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He made it sound like I've seen a document such
and such, you know, and he wouldn't say where it
came from. And then Todd McClay was interviewed. He said,
he said it's a cabinet document and it also said
is wrong, said he's wrong, it's and it's just he couldn't.
I mean, Todd McLay. If you get anyone who would
plays straight about, straight about than Todd McLay. He does
seem to be one of those politicians who's all about
(10:36):
getting the job right, who puts us you know, he's focused.
He seems very I'd actually put him as a politician
right up there in the trust stakes. So it's very
surprised if it was anything.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Fun and a workaholic twenty four to seven. He's such
a strong promote New zon just on the India trade deal.
I mean, this is overwhelmingly good for New Zealand. We've
got a market access to four hundred million middle class Indians,
her spending more taking products with the commodity your niche
this is a very good, good deal for New.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Zealand, such a massive market, so much potential and so
much opportunity hypothetically.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I mean, I know he wasn't the biggest fan of
the details of the FDA deal.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Was he trying to maybe say something that would potentially
try and sabotage it?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Chloe, you know when she wrote to the European Commission saying, oh,
you need to check up on New Zealand. We're not
doing a bit with the with the climate.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's a little bit of sabotage.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I think it's absolutely as sabotage. And yet I don't know,
I wonder if people see through this nonsense. Probably not
the eleven or twelve or ten or whatever percent it
is who vote for New Zealand First. But you know,
it's a shame that that good but they're holding this line.
I mean, New Zealand First is about New Zealand First,
sovereignty and gnats the nets are about economic growth. It's
(11:48):
a growth story, productivity, et cetera. So they've qute different
coalition partners in terms of their positioning.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
To be fair as well I think there's be a
lot of people out there who aren't consuming enough news
and as frequently as we are to actually feel like
they're fully informed across the entire process, because every other day.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
There is something pulling left or right or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
It's actually impossible, I think, to have a full qualified
unless you're watching every single show eighteen.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Or nineteen weeks to a weekly collective before.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
We've got more to come.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And there's still there's still more Winston to come today
because the other one was the Health and Safety at
Work Act, which has been you know and New Zealand
first is signed up to it. They're supporting the bill.
And the next thing, he's down. What is he He's
talking to protesters, including families of the Pike River victims.
He wished he didn't have to vote for the legislation.
(12:40):
I think it's called running with the hairs and hunting
with the hounds, and I did. I did think it
was quite funny when people were asking questions of Brook
van Velden, who's actually going to be leaving Parliament so
she's fairly relaxed about it, And who's got this right?
Or is there a chance the minister's got this wrong
and I don't think so She's like, no, I don't
think we've got it wrong. And there's not you know,
they are voting for it, they've agreed to it. There's
(13:02):
nothing and she was sort of.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Just nothing to see here. And I think also, I mean,
this health and safety change is needed. It's over complex,
is over each over engin for years. I mean, exposition
is actually identifying critical risks in health and safety, not
capturing all. I mean as a small business and has
worked in small business medium sized businesses, it's very complex
(13:25):
and its kind of it actually means you're doing more
paperwork than actually putting out the fire.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's what this is about.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
And I can understand once this position in terms of
trying to make sure there's a protection, but no, he's wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
On this one one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
If you can have that resource in time going back
into actually managing the business properly rather than taking you
away for more red tape and bureaucracy, then I think
that's always a good thing. But as long as it
doesn't come at the expense of the safety of your
of your personality stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But it seems like it's already Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Our law's Actually you're build on previous law by how
society is and actually what happens in the workplace.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And this is all the.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Evolution, right, it continues to grow and change to reflect
the changing instances within society.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
So and the differentialing point here is what actor done.
A differententineering point is talk about critical risk and the
current laws about all risks. So it kept us everything
I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And then how do you define a minor resk versus
a major risk? Or you know, if everything is a
RISKU and you've got to put twenty five pages of
paperwork for a sliced hand with a letter up.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
No, So we're talking about, you know, the same terms
as a fire and if you're wearing a high bise,
that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, which is what? Which is crazy? They could
be in the same category.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Anyway. Let's move on to the you're having a nice
little chat there, you too, what you're doing, We're.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Just looking at each other the whole time. Gas bagging
where you're watching.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The game, it's one one in Egypt and Iran, not
that it really matters. What matters is whether we can
score a goal against against Belgium.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well, it's still it's still there is still all was
closer Belgium there.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Anyway, let's keep focused, guys.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
There's Tim Pagne. Everybody in the whole world not sorry, this.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Is radio okay, Well, I mean actually please excuse him. Sticks,
it's sticking to it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I think you're saying that I couldn't talk about school.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well I wasn't talking about you being a tradwife. Oh
my god, what the hell is that? Anyway, Hey, this
is an interesting one in the so Chris Findlsson has
been having a crack at the government and the changes
that they've made, pushing back against some of the rules
that have been made on customary title and and and
he's been pretty you know, hyperbolic himself. And anyway, Paul
(15:36):
Goldsmith's written a piece in the New Zealand Herald responding
to it, which I actually thinks a pretty good piece,
and basically saying that if we want to tone down
the hyperbole, then Chris fin Lesson should follow his own advice,
which resonated with me when I saw the remark, I thought, God,
he's got a point there, But he quates he talks
about how Bill English in his final speech to Parliament
referred to a James K. Baxter poem poem concluding that
(15:59):
he'd taken his turn at the chisel in the great
task of shaping this nation mccornew Zealand and then parted,
leaving the next generation of mpiece Chris Finlayson Rights Goldsmith
left the building six years ago, but can't let go
of the chisel. I mean, that was a nice little
bit of trolling, But anyway.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Professional trolling for Phil he well, yeah, I think the
fact that he's, yeah, he's been gone for a long time,
so is it really up to him to be able
to copy in on things like this now? And it's
interesting that they're both obviously from the national kind of side,
the right side at butting heads with each other. But like,
I'm going to have to be honest here and say
that I wasn't actually able to read the full piece
because it was behind the paywall and I've.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Got my longing. Yeah, I know, isn't that tragic?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Rich just meant have been in a job when your
previous CEO or someone is commenting on your performance and
what you're doing. I mean, how annoying is that?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I think if there's there's many past politicians who actually
should be past.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Politicians continue the relevance right, which is just kind of
let it go on, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean, I think Paul Goldsmith makes a valid point here.
I mean, to be fair to both of them, both
of them are want to honor the treaty. It's just
different methodology. I mean, the current coalition government has been
elected with a mandate and they're fast tracking something. I
think what for Liinsum was saying was really about making
sure that there's the trust and confidence in taking ebe
(17:23):
on the journey. That's what his viewers.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, And I mean the thing is the lessons used expressions.
I think from what I can see, it's in quotation
marks Mari bashing and playing the race card. And Goldsmith said, well,
one of the things they did was pushed back on.
For instance, there was a legislation and allowing Nitahu to
appoint two members to the Canterbury Regional Council and Goldsmith's
opinion is that's offending a basic democratic principle of equal
(17:48):
voting rights for all. And he said it's not. It's
not Mari bashing, it's not playing the race card. It's
doing what we should be doing. And I I agree
with Goldsmith.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
On pleased he put an article out there. I think
that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, yeah, good on them. Anyway, we went on that
too much because Bill hell Mina she has not read there.
Oh yeah, and she's reminded me of there's two l's
in her name. So when you say Willhelmina Wilhelm, I
can't even.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Say name Willhelmina.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Just let it roll, you see, But you need the
extra l in there. It needs to be vill hell mean.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We'll see you're technically the pronouncing Helmina. But this is
going to be the new thing. Good and tag you
ever mentioned that I'm in love again? So that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, I actually had the clock on when you would
mention it, and yep, you abated me to bring fifteen minutes.
It took you a bit longer today. How's been?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Here's good?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
That's great?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Is it home right now?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Famous rugby ref by the way you o'keif that's why
you recognize the name, apart from when you'll never forget
the name Wilhelmina, Bill Helmina. Back in the moment, guess what,
I'm going to have a quick cup of teina, lie
down and I'm bit concerned there might have been almost
a penalty against us there, but I'm not sure if
it's or not. It's a hydration twenty three minutes down
by the way and nilaw with Belgium and New Zealand.
(19:02):
It's twenty five past three. Yes, and welcome back to
my panel with Richard Landrucy of Field Days and vill
Helmino O'Keefe woman who is very much in love among
other things. Anyway, she begged me to give her that introduction. Now,
(19:25):
the government's policy on rewiring alt Row has welcomed the
government's solar move where they're going to be offering low
interest loans to help people switch to solar batteries, insulation
and taking away big upfront costs and anyway. The money
is going to be repaid apparently through rates, but actually,
(19:48):
to be honest, it's not. It's it's not such a
revolutionary policy because most time owners can get a By
the way, I do have to interrupt that Belgium have
just scored, OK, so that's one nill. So yeah, there
we go. It's from a corner and yep, we didn't
quite it got bumped to a player who kicked it
and basically straight in front of the goal and yep,
(20:10):
bad luck to New Zealand. We're gonna have to start
scoring some goals. Oh well, there we go. Okay, boys,
girls back focus please. So well, it feels like cheap loans,
but it doesn't feel revolutionary because I went looked at
my bank's web page and I can get a cheap
loan to do solo right now.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
But this is about access to capitol.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
This is it kind of recognized as the cost of living,
the need for energy, resilience and security. And well done
to Mike Casey from rewiring out who has been on
and on about this. So the coalition government have stepped up.
It is it national policy or is it coalition and government?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I need to it's national party polo.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Okay, here we go election election politics. So we're the
Green party on this. Do they congratulate this or are
they still not promoting careers on the wealth tax?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Well?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Are they not promoting environmental let's not talk about that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But anyway, it would actually you have you got solo
in your house? No?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
You're a new build time did you think about it? So?
I did? And what I didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
But why not.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
It wasn't economic at the time, but I think you
might do it. They need to have a better, better
bettery storage for me in a bit more of a
compelling case at the moment. But I in terms of
you like to take long showers, I think it's one
older Belgium.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah. I think it's like you said, it's not revolutionary.
I think are you with a Z Yeah, yeah, I'm
pretty sure that that the greenhome loan, I think you
can only access it if you're an A D customer.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I'm pretty sure it's only.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
As that does it Also, isn't it if you have
a mortgage?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, exactly, You've got to move your entire mortgage over there.
So actually the switching cost for that is actually quite high.
It's a bit niggli if you don't want to switch
mortgage player.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
It's not a bit of lots. It goes he paid
over time, you know, in terms of like as a
different way of yea, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yes, like a payment plan right, yeah, yeah, but I
think it is. I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think definitely the use of batteries as well as
you have been working with this great company called power
Hub and they're introducing this. They just did a big
pleage me raise, and basically it's attaching an individual battery,
similar to what Contacts done with that big battery center
out in or is it witty, I can't remember it is,
but it's an individual battery attached to your house. You
can buy power prices at wholesale price. The battery will
(22:24):
suck up and the power when you're purchasing it at
its lowest rate and hold it there and store it
there for either when the grid's overloaded or when the
wholesale price is far too high. And then they've got
another add on off the top of that, which is solars,
so you can generate your own energy and your battery
can store it. So I think anything that's going to
take pressure off the grid is a good thing.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
That's going to make it election.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
So anything that's going to make it cheaper for people especially,
I mean, our powerbolls are crazy. I've got a four
hundred and fifty dollars power bill the other day.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
To take long shower. That's cheap.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I do rense my heat pump and I work from home.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So A and C have got a good energy line.
Westpac have a warm up loan, which is to Asb's
got a better home top up. B and Z's got
the green home loan top up with the one percent
rate and Kiwi Banks got a slightly different one at
not so much cheap interest. But they give you a
two thousand.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Well, I take it back. It's more than so.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I mean, it's clever politics. It's like something that's out
there already and they're just making it broad that they're
basically taking accessible.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
So they're recognizing, you know, they're in the room. I mean,
energy costs high, we need to be resilient urban and rule.
So I think it's a really good thing. National leading this.
Where's the Greens on this.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Listening to what people want? And people want cheaper options
and cheaper.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Infrastructure, temple options, the cheaper.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Cheaper power and cheaper basics.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Okay, moving on to away from the politics, thank goodness.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
But the.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So we've got a new all black captain's being announced
Ardie Severe. He had an interview with Mike Hosking and
I'm I mean, to be honest, I was expecting terrible
things and he went on and I listened to I went, well,
that's just a typical all black captain interview. There's just
no energy or anything, and here they're actually duper c Allen.
I think she made a point. It wasn't so much
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about Ardie Severe it was triggered by that. But just
how I mean he I got it, mate. He sounded
like he was distracted in the background. But you've got
an audience of hundreds of thousands of people. You've just
been made all black captain, and he sounded like he
had better things to do. But it's not just him,
it's every rugby interview you ever hear. I just want
(24:38):
to say, you know, te him did a great job.
Rugby was the winner on the I don't want to
say too much.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Couldn't we all just ourselves step into their shoes and
prattle it off as if we were them?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Do you know what I mean? Because you can? You can.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
You can you can basically script and know exactly what
they're going to say and how they're going to deliver it.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
However, on the.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Other side of the coin, he's a professional rugby player, right,
He's not a professional presenter or performer.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I know he is in this or you know what
I'm going to say, because I just thought it was awful.
I don't have any expectations. His job is to get
over the ball when they breakdown, kick to the corner,
score the dry.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
He selected to be a good rugby plan, not a
good presenter, and not.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
A good I think there was a learning for.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Learning. Oh my god, you just say learning as supposed
to listen. Oh you really are on the beltway, now,
what's happened?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I think let's let's look at a sports was his entertainment.
Sports that do it well, Formula one, Supercars, Motor GP.
They know how to engage and connect with their fan base.
And I think that that's the lesson.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
It seems to me. Actually see you see he's a professional.
Look he's a professional rugby player. And actually being a
professional rugby player, you are profile. You get paid because
of people's interest in the product. And you mentioned just
fleetingly their Formula one. We see it's Max for Stepan's
job to win, it's you know, Cami Antonelli's job to win.
Liam Lawson's job to win. They can all string together
(26:03):
with words of more than one or two syllables. You're
available to they are available. And I think this is
where rugby gets it wrong. I just get the feeling
that there's still this culture of people talking as if
the whole team's looking over their shoulders. So I did not,
you know, raise my head too far above the parapet
but I think rugby, and it's it's not so much
Artie Severe seems like a really nice guy, is an
(26:24):
amazing rugby player, but it's I think here this's highlighted
the point. It's like, you know, rugby, they have to
be more available and you know the passion that leads
them to be all Blacks, to be some of the
best rugby players in the world. That passion, well, let's
just see when you talk to us, let's see a
bit of the passion.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
But to put them up seven thirty, but that's good,
that is kind of an excuse whatever time it is, like,
you should still be excited about it. But I also
think it's a symptomatic of the fact that there is
a whole issue with fan engagement across rugby right There's
they are struggling to get the audiences that they used to.
You know, it's really sad you go to a super
rugby game that isn't a semi final or a final
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and half the step more than half the stand.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
We'll build from the stadium, well would be for a
for a pull match.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I don't know, look a look at what happened.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Wow, that was like the first one though, been every
week Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I mean I sort of feel I sort of feel
a little bit sorry that it's focused on Addie Severe,
who seems like seems like a sort of shy ish
sort of this issue has been going on and so
it's not really about him, it's just literally about it's
just raised the head of the problem that Rugby's had
for a long time.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But like they're not investing in that fan engagement pieces.
They're obviously not investing in the in the trainings and
the learnings and the things to make them engaging, and
not training like rugby training, like I'm talking like spokesperson training,
you know, like presentation training, media training.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
They're not invested in that.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
They're trying maybe not listening.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I think we need to have a bell that every
time someone says the word learning, did I say learning?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Shocked about I thought.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Old school that I just call them lessons learning.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Sound Do you know if something feels just more formal
about saying learnings. I don't know why agrees with me.
He agrees with me.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Look, pacificaer ending too. I mean it ties into that.
I mean there was Winston trying to get the team resurrected.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
All roads lead back to Winston.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
They really do well.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Not this one. Wow, this was an actually had a
recently successful case and arguing, look, you know we as
foreign minister and we engage with Pacific.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Okay, soft power that's what it is about. Trying to
invest in this is a professional team. It's a financial failure.
Not talking about the social cultural impact. It just didn't work.
So why is I don't mind people investing their own money,
but investing the tax power money for soft power influence.
If you're going to do soft power influence, copy the Chinese.
(28:59):
They go into infrastructure, tangible items, build some legacy. What
they could have done for my own PACIFICA If they
want to go the soft power in terms of vestment
is hold the Super Round of rugby and two of
them in Summer and Tongue and get all the dollars
from one of the Pacific so they can self fund
them self fund anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
In the end, it's got to add up, doesn't it.
There were some people who are sort of almost trying
to make the case there should be some government money
going into this.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Can you remember can you remember Mawana pacifica You won't
remember the name in three or four years. I mean,
can you remember the Japanese team's name or the Argentina's team?
Know that was the competition three four years ago?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
No, there you go? Can you yes, you can?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
What was it called?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'm just a you're all over the past.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
No, sun Wolves were definitely.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Hey, by the way, I know this news is over
a week ago, but in terms of rugby actually being
engaging and showing some passion, I just loved the Wellington crowds,
joy of wast They're all singing and so happy. I
thought Ellington's had such a tough time late. Now it
was just so nice to see.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It was really nice to say, such a good time.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
The wind Chiefs, the wind, that impact in the game
was phenomenal one.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I was on their side.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That one not bad for the Chiefs. But you know,
just the hurricane time, this time, it was time.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Hey, look we're going to take a quick moment. We'll
be back. It's still just it's still one nill in
the still one nil in the match between Belgium and
New Zealand, and if you've just joined us, unfortunately that's
not one nill in our favor, that is one nil
against And so yeah, fingers crossed that we suddenly decide,
(30:42):
you know what, I don't know. Of course we want
to score goals, but that we have a little bit
of fortune and on our side that would be great.
But anyway, otherwise, when Chris Reeve joins us for the
Sports Wrap at quarter six, we probably will possibly we'll
be talking about in all Whites loss, but anyway, we'll
be back in just a moment. It's twenty to four
News Talk z B News Talk zaid be with Tim
(31:06):
Beveridge and Wilhelmina or Kevin Richard Lindry's and my guests. Now,
there's a story I heard on the news in the
last either twenty four to forty eight hours just about
the number of that sport is struggling to keep people
volunteering and coaching and things like that, and the struggle
(31:27):
that's sport across the country has and that the coaching
numbers are down, the number of people who are giving
their time still they're doing more with fewer people, and
I was thinking, it's such a shame because it's such
an amazing part of It's my favorite part of the
weekend and during the week is supporting my daughter with
her school teams and she now umpires. She goes down
(31:50):
as an umpires on a Wednesday night and so do
some of her friends. Great little bit of pocket money.
Actually she's just come in with forty bucks after doing
four matches. The funny thing is that, just a little
aside is it's money that's been paid by the teams
to Auckland Netball and they just hand over that particular envelope.
So sometimes it's folding notes and it's coins. She comes coin,
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well it's not coins, and sometimes she has a few
coins rattling around, which is kind of old school, but
I just it's worth talking about this as well because
if you are thinking of volunteering or giving you your time,
you will be welcome with open arms. Richard.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, absolutely, I think not just in sport, but in
terms of community. You know, field days, we have lots
of volunteers that we need, and yeah we need more
and we need people PEPs from a younger generation to
step up. I mean, no, we your daughter but.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Technically she gets ten bucks, so she's all volunteer.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
If you're volunteer at field Days to get a cook breakfast,
cook lunch, some free gears and a cordy experience, yeah,
you'd be very good at vo management, which need I
needs talk.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I think she's looking for a gig. Now that's not volunteering,
that's a professional gig. But actually I can see you
being a face of one of the faces of field Days, well, I.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Mean field Days.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And you have to do what all do is get
the red band out swanny and go with the full cliche.
How many politics?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You give me a dress code and I will bloody
nail it.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Let me tell you it's Willemina in Auckland, the version actually.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Field Days by the way field Days, Oh yeah, field
Day's fashion.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
In fact, Mystery Creek is Mysteret Creek just the name
of the field Days area or is it? What's the
is it? What's the largest region the area?
Speaker 4 (33:27):
It's more Tema Heiry.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Oh, Willemina and Tama Hairy. That has a certain ring
to it.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
There's a few retirement.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I think with the volunteers thing, I think a lot
of people are really time poor these days, and obviously
there's there's there's no monetary compensation right because it's volunteering,
but there still needs to be some kind of incentive
to get you then, a feel good incentive.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Recognition volunteers, celebrating them.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
But when it comes to something like coaching, and I
put it kind of in a similar category to referee,
and when there's a lot of abuse and there's a
lot of pushback, and there's a lot of grumpy you know,
grumpy customers, grumpy sideline people, grumpy parents, grumpy team members, grumpy.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
You know, they're having to deal with that. It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
It's a lot to take on and perhaps the insended
there in terms of the fulfillment and the internal fulfillment
you get isn't what it used to be.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Actually, Auckland Netball has I don't really I haven't heard
the announcements this year, but there was I remember in
the evening games in midweek. I remember there being an
announcement just saying, by the way, people, as you know,
we delighted you here sort of supporting your kids. Please,
you know, keep I don't know how they said it,
but they said, please remember the referees are giving their
times and such and such, and if you know they're
(34:36):
on the receiving end of something. Basically, we don't lose
them for the week, we lose them for life. And
I said to my daughter Rosie, I said, I said,
you know, I'll be some bit of a fan of hers,
but she's doing her best at it. And I said, oh,
I don't imagine you get any any hassle it because
she's interviewing that sorry, she's referering the lilies. And I said,
I don't imagine you get hassled there. And she says, oh,
(34:56):
I had one of the mums or one of the
coaches talking loudly behind me about that was a rubbish
call and that was such and such and all that
sort of thing. And I was like, And in fact,
I think even at one game Auckland netball got called
over by the woman who thought she was right and
they said, no, no, the ref's right.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
And that's the thing. Like the grassroots level I feel
like is the worst, is worse than professional.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
It's seven or ten year olds or something, and you
have parent what is it?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
The marmages of the world, the managing the marmagers who
just come in and you know, with their guns blazing
and feel like they have an opinion.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I mean at the professional level, it's really bad.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Every time being ref's a test match, there's at least
half a dozen, you know, abusive comments on all of.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
My stuff online.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
No, seriously, by default they'll go to our wedding photo
and just post all of this abuse.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I don't get funny bit of abuse. Once, which did
make me laugh, somebody called out, it's hey, ref, you're
missing a great game.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Have you seen those videos?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
That was funny, but that's years ago.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I was like, you've seen those videos in line when
someone's crashed or that you know, they've smashed into someone
on the road and then someone drives.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Past and the like, hey mate, you can't park there.
That corracks me up. That is that it gives me life.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Next time I drive past someone who's had you know,
obviously a minor a minor nosed towel, you can't park
their mate.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Stay tuned for the next episode of Wilhelmina and Tama Harry.
We'll be back in just a minute. It's eleven minutes
to Ford News Talk. Yes, welcome back to the panel.
By the way, the Belgian's goalkeeper, Tibau Courtois I think
is his name, is keeping the clean sheet. He's done
more defending than the defenders have so fast. So we've
(36:37):
had a few shots apparently, and they obviously haven't got
past the goalkeeper. And a scruffy goal from a corner
that slipped into the netest given Belgium their only goal
so farther it seems that another might be imminent because
they are putting a lot of pressure on us. Our
defender's been kept busy and struggling to change the flow
of the player at the other end of the all block.
(36:58):
All whites have been able to get the ball forward.
But as I said, the goalkeeper is doing a great
and he's doing a performance for a lifetime carently and
taking a taking over from his defenders. It's one nil
to Belgium, and by the way, Iran and Egypt it's
one all with both goals coming in the first twenty
minutes of that game. So yeah, we'll keep you up
to date with it if there are any further changes
(37:21):
as they go. As the games go on. Now, guys,
so Christ Churches New Stadium stadium has pumped twenty million
dollars twenty one million dollars into the economy in just
sixty days. One New Zealand one en Z Stadium was
forecast to generate fifty million in a year. Look at
look at what christ Church's new stadium has done, and
(37:42):
you know what, it almost feels like any New Zealand
team that goes there in an international sense is going
to have hometown advantage because the crowds are just full
on Richard.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Yeah, it's awesome. I mean also the project was also
completed under budget and in time. I mean for a
New zeal infrastructural project, it's outstanding. And I think, yeah, pepsire,
we use the word lessons rather than learning through everyone.
Yeah what do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Molmina.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I think it's such a great thing for the city.
I've been twice so far for two different situations. One
for the very first rugby match that was played, super
rug match that was played and went along to that
and that was a very cool experience.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
It was exciting, it was it was it was good.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
It was warm as well because you've got this obviously
the roof over the over the stadium, but there was
this real buzz in the air and the buzz in
the air and the lead up to the game, but
also after in the CB because.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
That's walking distance. It's honestly the.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Best location you stay in a hotel on the CBD.
You walk there, it takes about five minutes, and then
you hit the bars in the restaurants. I'm not surprised
it's brought in so much money because you get the
full experience. It's not just going to a game and
buying some food at the stadium and then getting an
uber out of the city. It's actually all centered in
that CBD, which I think is cool. And then I
went to that symphony down there, so being able to
see it in it's performance kind of mode. Okay, that
(38:56):
was really cool too. So it was obviously completely different vibes,
but same level of energy. Bailey's real estate is one
of my one of my clients that I worked with,
and I talked to a lot of agents down there,
and some of the christ Church agents were sort of saying,
this is a game change for the city. We've had
so many more inquiries people want to live in the CBD.
It just goes to show how much a really good
quality piece one piece of infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Actually, next, I.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Was giving Eden Park a hard time and then somebody
one of my listeners sent me through the sort of
plans for what they are going to be doing to
Eden Park eventually, and that is going to be pretty
spectacular itself, but it does invite the thoughts. So I
saw a bus for the first time today decorated with
basically a plan of the new rail system. And this
is the Crawls opening soon. God, when are they going
(39:38):
to open up? That's going to be open.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
It's going to be a huge difference, to make a
massive difference and.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Where people decide to live the auxiliary access there. Yeah,
well over I mean quality infrastructure. We have infrastructure deficit
in New Zealand. Build its and they will come.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Are you looking for any more infrastructure mystery crew?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Yes, a ever it's a leading question as oh, yeah,
we have twenty five buildings there, we need to repurpose them.
And yeah, so for social project.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Because the last time I went there was a kid.
I was at school there and in the days when
you're dead now getting back, when you actually didn't need
gum boots and in these days these people, yeah, I know,
that's one of the things Jenny Vernon when she was
on it don't need gum boots. People still think it's
you know, well, people haven't been there, townies. I guess
the town is yeah, bloody townies anyway, towns. Anyway, Hey,
(40:31):
by the way, what's where are we up to? Is
at halftime or something? It must be it is half
time now and the and the football, so one kneel
to Belgium. Maybe we're still time. There's still time to
time a bitch you. There's some good odds if you
wanted to say the all blacks, the all whites are
going to win. But if I reckon just a quick
class comment, you know, in our first game we had
(40:52):
to we we wore black. I thought the all whites
looked fantastic and black, and I was like, you should
make that. But then they'd have to be the all blacks.
We've already got one of those. But maybe they would
be a bit of friend Maybe we should just they
should both switch colors for a while, based on who
the best media appearances. Anyway, that's interview right, We are
back with the One roof radio show. Nicole Lewis is
(41:12):
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Coming up on today's show, as you know, shortly our
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But we look ahead to later in the show where
we take your calls on eight hundred and eighty ten
to eighty for the Wonder If Radio Show. At four,
(01:37):
Nicole Lewis is with us and just a really simple question,
will property ever become part of retirement planning again or
is it dead in the water? And also apartments are
they a good or a bad first home choice? Because
once you're in one, well you want to move somewhere else,
try selling that apartment. We're going to look into that
because they can be a little tricky to get rid of.
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And at five for the Parents Squad, Stephanie Powell is
with us, talking about kids, pocket money and parent or
control and so when your kids get pocket money or
they go and earn some money, should you have any
say over what they do with that money? And also
we'll talk about passing on your own bad habits to
them on the spend thrift front. Shortly before six for
the Sports Rap, Christopher Reeve, who I call Superman for
(02:21):
obvious reasons, will be joining us. We can talk about
the Warriors and the F one, but of course right
now we're going to be giving you updates as the
All Whites are playing against Belgium. And we'll give you updates.
And I said, Chris, what are we going to talk
about when it comes to sports rap? And he so,
we'll probably about the all whites losing. And he does
have had a bit of history for the commentator's curse,
(02:43):
So maybe you should put your money on that we're
going to win Belgium. Belgium will be nervous. Mind, you
will be nervous as well. So we'll keep you up
to date. Anything interesting happens, we will let you know
straight away. Anyway, lots to get into. Welcome to the
Weekend Collective. It is eight minutes past three. What the
(03:04):
hell was What's that? Can you play that one again?
Lockers are a different one, sage, Oh that's a different
one that time. Oh, there's a whole lot of things
and new I never heard those. My guests are in hysterics,
don't talk. I haven't introduced you yet. First guest today
is a panelist. Oh god, those are priceless. He is
(03:28):
CEO of Field Days and I don't think I've met
someone who seems to be so plugged in with what's
going on around the place. Because everyone wants to go
to field Days, and everyone wants to talk and say
good ay, And you know he probably learns a few
secrets here and there which you won't share with us
because he's such a small sport. Damn people who are
trustworthy on information they've been given in private anyway, So
(03:49):
I've made far too much of that. Is Richard Lindrew's
Hello Richard, how are you good afternoon?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Good afternoon listeners post field days for me?
Speaker 1 (03:56):
So are you chilled out?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Now?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Very chilled?
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Was it tense? Leave it leading into it?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
It's just busy. It's twenty four to seven occupied to
the mental and physical capacity, and all the politicians were there.
I know you're going to talk about it later.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well we might touch on that anyway. Hey, good good
to having you here. Mate. And I didn't describe my
next guest. She's into pr she's a broadcast, she's done
all sorts of things, and I jokingly said she's in
New Zealand's answer to Emily in Paris. But Wilhelmina in
Auckland doesn't quite bring to its Willahelmina O Keith.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
It's the TM version of the Netflix series Hi Cut.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Everyone, Hi, the sequel.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's a bit of a come down from the bright
lights of Paris.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I've just been watching that.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Actually, Scotch Emily in Paris really doesn't seem like your
cup of tea.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Oh well has a cup of team which is in Paris.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
I'm a bit of a Francophile, so you know, even
though it's not you know, it's pretty pretty polished, idealistic,
fantasy version of living in either Paris or Rome. How
are you?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
I'm really good, thanks, How are you excellent?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Just chicken beverage? What?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Yeah? That was wild?
Speaker 1 (05:09):
That was quite something, wasn't it. Anyway? Nice to have
you guys here. Look, let's get it. By the way,
the World Cup with FIFA and the all whites and everything,
and we've got a run playing their game against Egypt.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Egypt has scored one nil to Egypt, but no action
on the New Zealand banty.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
So if we win, we're in the last thirty two.
It's a fairly big if Richard give you give you reckons.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
I used to I used to wait for FIFA. Actually,
years ago, I used to run this, did you so?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Put used to one?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
What what haven't you done?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
What did you used to do?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I used to work for FIFA as a regional there
so I look at these games through a different lens,
but it's going to be tough. It's still nil nil
looking good. I think the gypsum plea pleased and that
looks like it was a safe there Ah.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Running commentary. He's also been a commentator in the.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Past, and he's been an athlete as well. He worked
for FIFA. That's quite something, Richard.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Actually this this is your show, the Beverdge.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Beverage.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
That one down never anyway? Well, A mean or have
you been have you been following it? I guess the
question would be have you decided to subscribe to you know,
to watching as many games as you can?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Look.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I'm definitely interested in it, but I haven't actually sat
down to fully watch a game from start to finish.
But I love the hype that's around it. Based on
the whiteboard out in the newsroom though, where everyone in
the news talk they'd be office appears to have guessed
what the score will be.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
It doesn't look good for New Zealand doesn't.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Based on those those guesses out there, there's a couple
of really positive guesses on the score.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
You saw the white board out there.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
It's still zero zero No I know, but.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
We are eleven minutes in.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
I know, but you know that the afternoon is young
and I'm an eternal optimist, so look and look even
if we sadly, if we if we do lose like
I think, if we can score like that's great as well.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh oh god, okay, the screen, the screen anyway, it's
still now all that's all you need to know now. Actually,
by the way, the other thing is, it's quite funny.
I said to one of my listeners on the overnight.
So I was talking about crackit. Im not really into
the cricket, and then I tuned into the cricket. It
was for the last game at the Oval. And the
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thing is about the viewing experience you get with the
camera angles and everything. It's it's a gorgeous venues and
with the with the cricket, we've let our sort of
our advantages slip a little bit, I gather, but well
we could still do it. But I really quite enjoy
watching test cricket and the English are so polite.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Well it helps when you've got the weather and a
few runs on the board in my great weather. I
mean this interesting watching the crowd, you know, what are
they wearing?
Speaker 1 (07:55):
It?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
What are they wearing?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Struggling with Yeah, Emily and Paris.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Your fashion Easter cricket.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
But I saw a bit of it last night and
I thought we had a we were going okay. But
then I woke up this morning I thought we aren't
going okay, but we'll see what.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I would have loved you to have have a take
on the fashion there, because then you could have thrown.
Then you could have thrown into the max. It would
have been. I used to work for FIFA, and then
I would.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I used to work for Shanel and then I went for.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Chanel in Paris and now I went for Field. Don't
do that.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
But you're talking about broadcast. Some of the vistas they
you know, the camera men they you know, there's moldible
came as they pick up different crowd scenes, and they
were looking very relaxed.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
The British.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Let's good, you're still in a cricket game. Run seems
like the place.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Okay, come on, let's get into it. That stop talking
at yourself now. Look, I don't know would he be
happy that we're about to talk about him? Possibly, but
Winston Peters, so he's suddenly said, I you know, I've
seen these documents which show that, you know, the government's
shifting its its stance on Indian immigrants, and he's implying
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that that New Zealand's changing the way they're going to
treat the applications. It's going to be stricter and everything.
And anyway, I would have thought he'd be happy with that,
because his rhetoric about the Indian Free Trade Agreement is
he doesn't want a whole lot of Indians coming here,
and all of a sudden he's defending them. But it's
just to me, it's, you know, he's God, I'm over Winston.
(09:29):
I just think it's just cheap politicking. He's a great
foreign minister. As a retail politician, he's just a hussy.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I worked it out before I came here this morning. Yeah,
that you have eighteen or nineteen more shows before the election.
So if you're over election politics now, eighteen more weekends
of you before Winston.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I was just to say, this is not over. Politics's
over Winston. I agree.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's just it's always seems like all roads lead back
to Winston, and there's always something that he sees or
does to get the headlined. Look, maybe it's a really
great example of probably mar and branding and PR strategy.
So he's probably nail that on the head, but it
does get a little bit tiresome. Sometimes the thing.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Is sidly when every headline is about something that he said.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He made it sound like I've seen a document such
and such, you know, and he wouldn't say where it
came from. And then Todd McClay was interviewed. He said,
he said it's a cabinet document and it also said
is wrong, said he's wrong, it's and it's just he couldn't.
I mean, Todd McLay. If you get anyone who would
plays straight about, straight about than Todd McLay. He does
seem to be one of those politicians who's all about
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getting the job right, who puts us you know, he's focused.
He seems very I'd actually put him as a politician
right up there in the trust stakes. So it's very
surprised if it was anything.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Fun and a workaholic twenty four to seven. He's such
a strong promote New zon just on the India trade deal.
I mean, this is overwhelmingly good for New Zealand. We've
got a market access to four hundred million middle class Indians,
her spending more taking products with the commodity your niche
this is a very good, good deal for New.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Zealand, such a massive market, so much potential and so
much opportunity hypothetically.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
I mean, I know he wasn't the biggest fan of
the details of the FDA deal.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Was he trying to maybe say something that would potentially
try and sabotage it?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Chloe, you know when she wrote to the European Commission saying, oh,
you need to check up on New Zealand. We're not
doing a bit with the with the climate.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It's a little bit of sabotage.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I think it's absolutely as sabotage. And yet I don't know,
I wonder if people see through this nonsense. Probably not
the eleven or twelve or ten or whatever percent it
is who vote for New Zealand First. But you know,
it's a shame that that good but they're holding this line.
I mean, New Zealand First is about New Zealand First,
sovereignty and gnats the nets are about economic growth. It's
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a growth story, productivity, et cetera. So they've qute different
coalition partners in terms of their positioning.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
To be fair as well I think there's be a
lot of people out there who aren't consuming enough news
and as frequently as we are to actually feel like
they're fully informed across the entire process, because every other day.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
There is something pulling left or right or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
It's actually impossible, I think, to have a full qualified
unless you're watching every single show eighteen.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Or nineteen weeks to a weekly collective before.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
We've got more to come.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And there's still there's still more Winston to come today
because the other one was the Health and Safety at
Work Act, which has been you know and New Zealand
first is signed up to it. They're supporting the bill.
And the next thing, he's down. What is he He's
talking to protesters, including families of the Pike River victims.
He wished he didn't have to vote for the legislation.
(12:40):
I think it's called running with the hairs and hunting
with the hounds, and I did. I did think it
was quite funny when people were asking questions of Brook
van Velden, who's actually going to be leaving Parliament so
she's fairly relaxed about it, And who's got this right?
Or is there a chance the minister's got this wrong
and I don't think so She's like, no, I don't
think we've got it wrong. And there's not you know,
they are voting for it, they've agreed to it. There's
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nothing and she was sort of.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Just nothing to see here. And I think also, I mean,
this health and safety change is needed. It's over complex,
is over each over engin for years. I mean, exposition
is actually identifying critical risks in health and safety, not
capturing all. I mean as a small business and has
worked in small business medium sized businesses, it's very complex
(13:25):
and its kind of it actually means you're doing more
paperwork than actually putting out the fire.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
That's what this is about.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
And I can understand once this position in terms of
trying to make sure there's a protection, but no, he's wrong.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
On this one one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
If you can have that resource in time going back
into actually managing the business properly rather than taking you
away for more red tape and bureaucracy, then I think
that's always a good thing. But as long as it
doesn't come at the expense of the safety of your
of your personality stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But it seems like it's already Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Our law's Actually you're build on previous law by how
society is and actually what happens in the workplace.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
And this is all the.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Evolution, right, it continues to grow and change to reflect
the changing instances within society.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
So and the differentialing point here is what actor done.
A differententineering point is talk about critical risk and the
current laws about all risks. So it kept us everything
I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
And then how do you define a minor resk versus
a major risk? Or you know, if everything is a
RISKU and you've got to put twenty five pages of
paperwork for a sliced hand with a letter up.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
No, So we're talking about, you know, the same terms
as a fire and if you're wearing a high bise,
that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah, yeah, which is what? Which is crazy? They could
be in the same category.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Anyway. Let's move on to the you're having a nice
little chat there, you too, what you're doing, We're.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Just looking at each other the whole time. Gas bagging
where you're watching.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
The game, it's one one in Egypt and Iran, not
that it really matters. What matters is whether we can
score a goal against against Belgium.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Well, it's still it's still there is still all was
closer Belgium there.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Anyway, let's keep focused, guys.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
There's Tim Pagne. Everybody in the whole world not sorry, this.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Is radio okay, Well, I mean actually please excuse him. Sticks,
it's sticking to it.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
I think you're saying that I couldn't talk about school.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Well I wasn't talking about you being a tradwife. Oh
my god, what the hell is that? Anyway, Hey, this
is an interesting one in the so Chris Findlsson has
been having a crack at the government and the changes
that they've made, pushing back against some of the rules
that have been made on customary title and and and
he's been pretty you know, hyperbolic himself. And anyway, Paul
(15:36):
Goldsmith's written a piece in the New Zealand Herald responding
to it, which I actually thinks a pretty good piece,
and basically saying that if we want to tone down
the hyperbole, then Chris fin Lesson should follow his own advice,
which resonated with me when I saw the remark, I thought, God,
he's got a point there, But he quates he talks
about how Bill English in his final speech to Parliament
referred to a James K. Baxter poem poem concluding that
(15:59):
he'd taken his turn at the chisel in the great
task of shaping this nation mccornew Zealand and then parted,
leaving the next generation of mpiece Chris Finlayson Rights Goldsmith
left the building six years ago, but can't let go
of the chisel. I mean, that was a nice little
bit of trolling, But anyway.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Professional trolling for Phil he well, yeah, I think the
fact that he's, yeah, he's been gone for a long time,
so is it really up to him to be able
to copy in on things like this now? And it's
interesting that they're both obviously from the national kind of side,
the right side at butting heads with each other. But like,
I'm going to have to be honest here and say
that I wasn't actually able to read the full piece
because it was behind the paywall and I've.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Got my longing. Yeah, I know, isn't that tragic?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Rich just meant have been in a job when your
previous CEO or someone is commenting on your performance and
what you're doing. I mean, how annoying is that?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
You know?
Speaker 4 (16:51):
I think if there's there's many past politicians who actually
should be past.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
Politicians continue the relevance right, which is just kind of
let it go on, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
I mean, I think Paul Goldsmith makes a valid point here.
I mean, to be fair to both of them, both
of them are want to honor the treaty. It's just
different methodology. I mean, the current coalition government has been
elected with a mandate and they're fast tracking something. I
think what for Liinsum was saying was really about making
sure that there's the trust and confidence in taking ebe
(17:23):
on the journey. That's what his viewers.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Yeah, And I mean the thing is the lessons used expressions.
I think from what I can see, it's in quotation
marks Mari bashing and playing the race card. And Goldsmith said, well,
one of the things they did was pushed back on.
For instance, there was a legislation and allowing Nitahu to
appoint two members to the Canterbury Regional Council and Goldsmith's
opinion is that's offending a basic democratic principle of equal
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voting rights for all. And he said it's not. It's
not Mari bashing, it's not playing the race card. It's
doing what we should be doing. And I I agree
with Goldsmith.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
On pleased he put an article out there. I think
that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah, yeah, good on them. Anyway, we went on that
too much because Bill hell Mina she has not read there.
Oh yeah, and she's reminded me of there's two l's
in her name. So when you say Willhelmina Wilhelm, I
can't even.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Say name Willhelmina.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Just let it roll, you see, But you need the
extra l in there. It needs to be vill hell mean.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
We'll see you're technically the pronouncing Helmina. But this is
going to be the new thing. Good and tag you
ever mentioned that I'm in love again? So that's good.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Well, I actually had the clock on when you would
mention it, and yep, you abated me to bring fifteen minutes.
It took you a bit longer today. How's been?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Here's good?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
That's great?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Is it home right now?
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Famous rugby ref by the way you o'keif that's why
you recognize the name, apart from when you'll never forget
the name Wilhelmina, Bill Helmina. Back in the moment, guess what,
I'm going to have a quick cup of teina, lie
down and I'm bit concerned there might have been almost
a penalty against us there, but I'm not sure if
it's or not. It's a hydration twenty three minutes down
by the way and nilaw with Belgium and New Zealand.
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It's twenty five past three. Yes, and welcome back to
my panel with Richard Landrucy of Field Days and vill
Helmino O'Keefe woman who is very much in love among
other things. Anyway, she begged me to give her that introduction. Now,
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the government's policy on rewiring alt Row has welcomed the
government's solar move where they're going to be offering low
interest loans to help people switch to solar batteries, insulation
and taking away big upfront costs and anyway. The money
is going to be repaid apparently through rates, but actually,
(19:48):
to be honest, it's not. It's it's not such a
revolutionary policy because most time owners can get a By
the way, I do have to interrupt that Belgium have
just scored, OK, so that's one nill. So yeah, there
we go. It's from a corner and yep, we didn't
quite it got bumped to a player who kicked it
and basically straight in front of the goal and yep,
(20:10):
bad luck to New Zealand. We're gonna have to start
scoring some goals. Oh well, there we go. Okay, boys,
girls back focus please. So well, it feels like cheap loans,
but it doesn't feel revolutionary because I went looked at
my bank's web page and I can get a cheap
loan to do solo right now.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
But this is about access to capitol.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
It's a good thing.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
This is it kind of recognized as the cost of living,
the need for energy, resilience and security. And well done
to Mike Casey from rewiring out who has been on
and on about this. So the coalition government have stepped up.
It is it national policy or is it coalition and government?
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I need to it's national party polo.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Okay, here we go election election politics. So we're the
Green party on this. Do they congratulate this or are
they still not promoting careers on the wealth tax?
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Well?
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Are they not promoting environmental let's not talk about that.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
But anyway, it would actually you have you got solo
in your house? No?
Speaker 4 (21:01):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
You're a new build time did you think about it? So?
I did? And what I didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
But why not.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
It wasn't economic at the time, but I think you
might do it. They need to have a better, better
bettery storage for me in a bit more of a
compelling case at the moment. But I in terms of
you like to take long showers, I think it's one
older Belgium.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah. I think it's like you said, it's not revolutionary.
I think are you with a Z Yeah, yeah, I'm
pretty sure that that the greenhome loan, I think you
can only access it if you're an A D customer.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I'm pretty sure it's only.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
As that does it Also, isn't it if you have
a mortgage?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Yeah, exactly, You've got to move your entire mortgage over there.
So actually the switching cost for that is actually quite high.
It's a bit niggli if you don't want to switch
mortgage player.
Speaker 4 (21:52):
It's not a bit of lots. It goes he paid
over time, you know, in terms of like as a
different way of yea, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yes, like a payment plan right, yeah, yeah, but I
think it is. I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
I think definitely the use of batteries as well as
you have been working with this great company called power
Hub and they're introducing this. They just did a big
pleage me raise, and basically it's attaching an individual battery,
similar to what Contacts done with that big battery center
out in or is it witty, I can't remember it is,
but it's an individual battery attached to your house. You
can buy power prices at wholesale price. The battery will
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suck up and the power when you're purchasing it at
its lowest rate and hold it there and store it
there for either when the grid's overloaded or when the
wholesale price is far too high. And then they've got
another add on off the top of that, which is solars,
so you can generate your own energy and your battery
can store it. So I think anything that's going to
take pressure off the grid is a good thing.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
That's going to make it election.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
So anything that's going to make it cheaper for people especially,
I mean, our powerbolls are crazy. I've got a four
hundred and fifty dollars power bill the other day.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
To take long shower. That's cheap.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
I do rense my heat pump and I work from home.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
So A and C have got a good energy line.
Westpac have a warm up loan, which is to Asb's
got a better home top up. B and Z's got
the green home loan top up with the one percent
rate and Kiwi Banks got a slightly different one at
not so much cheap interest. But they give you a
two thousand.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Well, I take it back. It's more than so.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I mean, it's clever politics. It's like something that's out
there already and they're just making it broad that they're
basically taking accessible.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
So they're recognizing, you know, they're in the room. I mean,
energy costs high, we need to be resilient urban and rule.
So I think it's a really good thing. National leading this.
Where's the Greens on this.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Listening to what people want? And people want cheaper options
and cheaper.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
Infrastructure, temple options, the cheaper.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Cheaper power and cheaper basics.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Okay, moving on to away from the politics, thank goodness.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
But the.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
So we've got a new all black captain's being announced
Ardie Severe. He had an interview with Mike Hosking and
I'm I mean, to be honest, I was expecting terrible
things and he went on and I listened to I went, well,
that's just a typical all black captain interview. There's just
no energy or anything, and here they're actually duper c Allen.
I think she made a point. It wasn't so much
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about Ardie Severe it was triggered by that. But just
how I mean he I got it, mate. He sounded
like he was distracted in the background. But you've got
an audience of hundreds of thousands of people. You've just
been made all black captain, and he sounded like he
had better things to do. But it's not just him,
it's every rugby interview you ever hear. I just want
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to say, you know, te him did a great job.
Rugby was the winner on the I don't want to
say too much.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Couldn't we all just ourselves step into their shoes and
prattle it off as if we were them?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Do you know what I mean? Because you can? You can.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
You can you can basically script and know exactly what
they're going to say and how they're going to deliver it.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
However, on the.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Other side of the coin, he's a professional rugby player, right,
He's not a professional presenter or performer.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I know he is in this or you know what
I'm going to say, because I just thought it was awful.
I don't have any expectations. His job is to get
over the ball when they breakdown, kick to the corner,
score the dry.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
He selected to be a good rugby plan, not a
good presenter, and not.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
A good I think there was a learning for.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Learning. Oh my god, you just say learning as supposed
to listen. Oh you really are on the beltway, now,
what's happened?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I think let's let's look at a sports was his entertainment.
Sports that do it well, Formula one, Supercars, Motor GP.
They know how to engage and connect with their fan base.
And I think that that's the lesson.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
It seems to me. Actually see you see he's a professional.
Look he's a professional rugby player. And actually being a
professional rugby player, you are profile. You get paid because
of people's interest in the product. And you mentioned just
fleetingly their Formula one. We see it's Max for Stepan's
job to win, it's you know, Cami Antonelli's job to win.
Liam Lawson's job to win. They can all string together
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with words of more than one or two syllables. You're
available to they are available. And I think this is
where rugby gets it wrong. I just get the feeling
that there's still this culture of people talking as if
the whole team's looking over their shoulders. So I did not,
you know, raise my head too far above the parapet
but I think rugby, and it's it's not so much
Artie Severe seems like a really nice guy, is an
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amazing rugby player, but it's I think here this's highlighted
the point. It's like, you know, rugby, they have to
be more available and you know the passion that leads
them to be all Blacks, to be some of the
best rugby players in the world. That passion, well, let's
just see when you talk to us, let's see a
bit of the passion.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
But to put them up seven thirty, but that's good,
that is kind of an excuse whatever time it is, like,
you should still be excited about it. But I also
think it's a symptomatic of the fact that there is
a whole issue with fan engagement across rugby right There's
they are struggling to get the audiences that they used to.
You know, it's really sad you go to a super
rugby game that isn't a semi final or a final
(27:04):
and half the step more than half the stand.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
We'll build from the stadium, well would be for a
for a pull match.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
I don't know, look a look at what happened.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Wow, that was like the first one though, been every
week Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
I mean I sort of feel I sort of feel
a little bit sorry that it's focused on Addie Severe,
who seems like seems like a sort of shy ish
sort of this issue has been going on and so
it's not really about him, it's just literally about it's
just raised the head of the problem that Rugby's had
for a long time.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
But like they're not investing in that fan engagement pieces.
They're obviously not investing in the in the trainings and
the learnings and the things to make them engaging, and
not training like rugby training, like I'm talking like spokesperson training,
you know, like presentation training, media training.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
They're not invested in that.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
They're trying maybe not listening.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I think we need to have a bell that every
time someone says the word learning, did I say learning?
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Shocked about I thought.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Old school that I just call them lessons learning.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Sound Do you know if something feels just more formal
about saying learnings. I don't know why agrees with me.
He agrees with me.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Look, pacificaer ending too. I mean it ties into that.
I mean there was Winston trying to get the team resurrected.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
All roads lead back to Winston.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
They really do well.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Not this one. Wow, this was an actually had a
recently successful case and arguing, look, you know we as
foreign minister and we engage with Pacific.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Okay, soft power that's what it is about. Trying to
invest in this is a professional team. It's a financial failure.
Not talking about the social cultural impact. It just didn't work.
So why is I don't mind people investing their own money,
but investing the tax power money for soft power influence.
If you're going to do soft power influence, copy the Chinese.
(28:59):
They go into infrastructure, tangible items, build some legacy. What
they could have done for my own PACIFICA If they
want to go the soft power in terms of vestment
is hold the Super Round of rugby and two of
them in Summer and Tongue and get all the dollars
from one of the Pacific so they can self fund
them self fund anyway.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
In the end, it's got to add up, doesn't it.
There were some people who are sort of almost trying
to make the case there should be some government money
going into this.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Can you remember can you remember Mawana pacifica You won't
remember the name in three or four years. I mean,
can you remember the Japanese team's name or the Argentina's team?
Know that was the competition three four years ago?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (29:32):
No, there you go? Can you yes, you can?
Speaker 2 (29:34):
What was it called?
Speaker 1 (29:35):
I'm just a you're all over the past.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
No, sun Wolves were definitely.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Hey, by the way, I know this news is over
a week ago, but in terms of rugby actually being
engaging and showing some passion, I just loved the Wellington crowds,
joy of wast They're all singing and so happy. I
thought Ellington's had such a tough time late. Now it
was just so nice to see.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It was really nice to say, such a good time.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
The wind Chiefs, the wind, that impact in the game
was phenomenal one.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I was on their side.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
That one not bad for the Chiefs. But you know,
just the hurricane time, this time, it was time.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Hey, look we're going to take a quick moment. We'll
be back. It's still just it's still one nill in
the still one nil in the match between Belgium and
New Zealand, and if you've just joined us, unfortunately that's
not one nill in our favor, that is one nil
against And so yeah, fingers crossed that we suddenly decide,
(30:42):
you know what, I don't know. Of course we want
to score goals, but that we have a little bit
of fortune and on our side that would be great.
But anyway, otherwise, when Chris Reeve joins us for the
Sports Wrap at quarter six, we probably will possibly we'll
be talking about in all Whites loss, but anyway, we'll
be back in just a moment. It's twenty to four
News Talk z B News Talk zaid be with Tim
(31:06):
Beveridge and Wilhelmina or Kevin Richard Lindry's and my guests. Now,
there's a story I heard on the news in the
last either twenty four to forty eight hours just about
the number of that sport is struggling to keep people
volunteering and coaching and things like that, and the struggle
(31:27):
that's sport across the country has and that the coaching
numbers are down, the number of people who are giving
their time still they're doing more with fewer people, and
I was thinking, it's such a shame because it's such
an amazing part of It's my favorite part of the
weekend and during the week is supporting my daughter with
her school teams and she now umpires. She goes down
(31:50):
as an umpires on a Wednesday night and so do
some of her friends. Great little bit of pocket money.
Actually she's just come in with forty bucks after doing
four matches. The funny thing is that, just a little
aside is it's money that's been paid by the teams
to Auckland Netball and they just hand over that particular envelope.
So sometimes it's folding notes and it's coins. She comes coin,
(32:11):
well it's not coins, and sometimes she has a few
coins rattling around, which is kind of old school, but
I just it's worth talking about this as well because
if you are thinking of volunteering or giving you your time,
you will be welcome with open arms. Richard.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, absolutely, I think not just in sport, but in
terms of community. You know, field days, we have lots
of volunteers that we need, and yeah we need more
and we need people PEPs from a younger generation to
step up. I mean, no, we your daughter but.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Technically she gets ten bucks, so she's all volunteer.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
If you're volunteer at field Days to get a cook breakfast,
cook lunch, some free gears and a cordy experience, yeah,
you'd be very good at vo management, which need I
needs talk.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I think she's looking for a gig. Now that's not volunteering,
that's a professional gig. But actually I can see you
being a face of one of the faces of field Days, well, I.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Mean field Days.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And you have to do what all do is get
the red band out swanny and go with the full cliche.
How many politics?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You give me a dress code and I will bloody
nail it.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
Let me tell you it's Willemina in Auckland, the version actually.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Field Days by the way field Days, Oh yeah, field
Day's fashion.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
In fact, Mystery Creek is Mysteret Creek just the name
of the field Days area or is it? What's the
is it? What's the largest region the area?
Speaker 4 (33:27):
It's more Tema Heiry.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Oh, Willemina and Tama Hairy. That has a certain ring
to it.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
There's a few retirement.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
I think with the volunteers thing, I think a lot
of people are really time poor these days, and obviously
there's there's there's no monetary compensation right because it's volunteering,
but there still needs to be some kind of incentive
to get you then, a feel good incentive.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Recognition volunteers, celebrating them.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
But when it comes to something like coaching, and I
put it kind of in a similar category to referee,
and when there's a lot of abuse and there's a
lot of pushback, and there's a lot of grumpy you know,
grumpy customers, grumpy sideline people, grumpy parents, grumpy team members, grumpy.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
You know, they're having to deal with that. It's a lot.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
It's a lot to take on and perhaps the insended
there in terms of the fulfillment and the internal fulfillment
you get isn't what it used to be.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Actually, Auckland Netball has I don't really I haven't heard
the announcements this year, but there was I remember in
the evening games in midweek. I remember there being an
announcement just saying, by the way, people, as you know,
we delighted you here sort of supporting your kids. Please,
you know, keep I don't know how they said it,
but they said, please remember the referees are giving their
times and such and such, and if you know they're
(34:36):
on the receiving end of something. Basically, we don't lose
them for the week, we lose them for life. And
I said to my daughter Rosie, I said, I said,
you know, I'll be some bit of a fan of hers,
but she's doing her best at it. And I said, oh,
I don't imagine you get any any hassle it because
she's interviewing that sorry, she's referering the lilies. And I said,
I don't imagine you get hassled there. And she says, oh,
(34:56):
I had one of the mums or one of the
coaches talking loudly behind me about that was a rubbish
call and that was such and such and all that
sort of thing. And I was like, And in fact,
I think even at one game Auckland netball got called
over by the woman who thought she was right and
they said, no, no, the ref's right.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
And that's the thing. Like the grassroots level I feel
like is the worst, is worse than professional.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
It's seven or ten year olds or something, and you
have parent what is it?
Speaker 3 (35:20):
The marmages of the world, the managing the marmagers who
just come in and you know, with their guns blazing
and feel like they have an opinion.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I mean at the professional level, it's really bad.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Every time being ref's a test match, there's at least
half a dozen, you know, abusive comments on all of.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
My stuff online.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
No, seriously, by default they'll go to our wedding photo
and just post all of this abuse.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I don't get funny bit of abuse. Once, which did
make me laugh, somebody called out, it's hey, ref, you're
missing a great game.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Have you seen those videos?
Speaker 1 (35:50):
That was funny, but that's years ago.
Speaker 3 (35:52):
I was like, you've seen those videos in line when
someone's crashed or that you know, they've smashed into someone
on the road and then someone drives.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Past and the like, hey mate, you can't park there.
That corracks me up. That is that it gives me life.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Next time I drive past someone who's had you know,
obviously a minor a minor nosed towel, you can't park
their mate.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Stay tuned for the next episode of Wilhelmina and Tama Harry.
We'll be back in just a minute. It's eleven minutes
to Ford News Talk. Yes, welcome back to the panel.
By the way, the Belgian's goalkeeper, Tibau Courtois I think
is his name, is keeping the clean sheet. He's done
more defending than the defenders have so fast. So we've
(36:37):
had a few shots apparently, and they obviously haven't got
past the goalkeeper. And a scruffy goal from a corner
that slipped into the netest given Belgium their only goal
so farther it seems that another might be imminent because
they are putting a lot of pressure on us. Our
defender's been kept busy and struggling to change the flow
of the player at the other end of the all block.
(36:58):
All whites have been able to get the ball forward.
But as I said, the goalkeeper is doing a great
and he's doing a performance for a lifetime carently and
taking a taking over from his defenders. It's one nil
to Belgium, and by the way, Iran and Egypt it's
one all with both goals coming in the first twenty
minutes of that game. So yeah, we'll keep you up
to date with it if there are any further changes
(37:21):
as they go. As the games go on. Now, guys,
so Christ Churches New Stadium stadium has pumped twenty million
dollars twenty one million dollars into the economy in just
sixty days. One New Zealand one en Z Stadium was
forecast to generate fifty million in a year. Look at
look at what christ Church's new stadium has done, and
(37:42):
you know what, it almost feels like any New Zealand
team that goes there in an international sense is going
to have hometown advantage because the crowds are just full
on Richard.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Yeah, it's awesome. I mean also the project was also
completed under budget and in time. I mean for a
New zeal infrastructural project, it's outstanding. And I think, yeah, pepsire,
we use the word lessons rather than learning through everyone.
Yeah what do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Molmina.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
I think it's such a great thing for the city.
I've been twice so far for two different situations. One
for the very first rugby match that was played, super
rug match that was played and went along to that
and that was a very cool experience.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
It was exciting, it was it was it was good.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
It was warm as well because you've got this obviously
the roof over the over the stadium, but there was
this real buzz in the air and the buzz in
the air and the lead up to the game, but
also after in the CB because.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
That's walking distance. It's honestly the.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Best location you stay in a hotel on the CBD.
You walk there, it takes about five minutes, and then
you hit the bars in the restaurants. I'm not surprised
it's brought in so much money because you get the
full experience. It's not just going to a game and
buying some food at the stadium and then getting an
uber out of the city. It's actually all centered in
that CBD, which I think is cool. And then I
went to that symphony down there, so being able to
see it in it's performance kind of mode. Okay, that
(38:56):
was really cool too. So it was obviously completely different vibes,
but same level of energy. Bailey's real estate is one
of my one of my clients that I worked with,
and I talked to a lot of agents down there,
and some of the christ Church agents were sort of saying,
this is a game change for the city. We've had
so many more inquiries people want to live in the CBD.
It just goes to show how much a really good
quality piece one piece of infrastructure.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Actually, next, I.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Was giving Eden Park a hard time and then somebody
one of my listeners sent me through the sort of
plans for what they are going to be doing to
Eden Park eventually, and that is going to be pretty
spectacular itself, but it does invite the thoughts. So I
saw a bus for the first time today decorated with
basically a plan of the new rail system. And this
is the Crawls opening soon. God, when are they going
(39:38):
to open up? That's going to be open.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
It's going to be a huge difference, to make a
massive difference and.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Where people decide to live the auxiliary access there. Yeah,
well over I mean quality infrastructure. We have infrastructure deficit
in New Zealand. Build its and they will come.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Are you looking for any more infrastructure mystery crew?
Speaker 4 (39:57):
Yes, a ever it's a leading question as oh, yeah,
we have twenty five buildings there, we need to repurpose them.
And yeah, so for social project.
Speaker 1 (40:06):
Because the last time I went there was a kid.
I was at school there and in the days when
you're dead now getting back, when you actually didn't need
gum boots and in these days these people, yeah, I know,
that's one of the things Jenny Vernon when she was
on it don't need gum boots. People still think it's
you know, well, people haven't been there, townies. I guess
the town is yeah, bloody townies anyway, towns. Anyway, Hey,
(40:31):
by the way, what's where are we up to? Is
at halftime or something? It must be it is half
time now and the and the football, so one kneel
to Belgium. Maybe we're still time. There's still time to
time a bitch you. There's some good odds if you
wanted to say the all blacks, the all whites are
going to win. But if I reckon just a quick
class comment, you know, in our first game we had
(40:52):
to we we wore black. I thought the all whites
looked fantastic and black, and I was like, you should
make that. But then they'd have to be the all blacks.
We've already got one of those. But maybe they would
be a bit of friend Maybe we should just they
should both switch colors for a while, based on who
the best media appearances. Anyway, that's interview right, We are
back with the One roof radio show. Nicole Lewis is
(41:12):
with us the news Talk z B.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
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