March 6, 2026 • 40 mins
This week on The Panel, Tim Beveridge is joined by NZ Gardener editor Jo McCarroll and Crane Brothers founder Murray Crane, to discuss the biggest stories from the week that was.
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Speaker 3 (00:50):
The way, I'm just going dancing. I'm Mary Yes, and
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to later in the show Win We'll also be taking
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Nicole Lewis is a guest. She's a CEO of the
Property Lifestyle and we're going to talk about how do
you make sure your first home won't be a hard
resell because you would have might have caught up with
a story about townhouses and just what they are not
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even selling in the markets. You know, in certain parts
of the market it's hard, hard to get things turning
over without dropping your price significantly. And also we'll buy
into that. We're talking to that Key we saber thing
about people who are through their service or their employment
have to live in a particular house, and so Key
Wesaver is going to be allowed to be withdrawn for
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those people to buy a house that they don't live in.
We're going to explore that and whether it needs to
be extended further. At five for the parents squad Google
Sutherlands with us. He's a psychologist at Umbrella Well Being
talking about a childhood ed early childhood education. How important
is it when you know, should you really get your
kids in there? And is it for education or is
it for socialization? And which is when and what and how?
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And it also if we got time, we'll dig into
what is something that kids used to be allowed to
do that parents no longer that keenon biking to score
probably shortly before six. Of course, we also have the
sports wrap Chris Reeb will be with us. We've got
lots to preview. The Highlanders and force will be underway.
There's the Blues and Crusaders, Brumbies and Reds and if
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one is getting underway as well, which I am reasonably
excited about. Anyway, lots to get into. Welcome to the
Weekend Collective. It is eight minutes past three.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Tim Beveridge on the Weekend Collective called eight hundred eighty
ten eighty News Talk ZEB.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
By the way, there was a reason for that for
that little bit of theme music was that we had
our photoshoot for z B and when it was my turn,
they said, oh, you want to have some theme music,
and I just lightheartedly says I'm too sexy. And it's
funny when you take the when you when you get
in front of the camera and there's I'm too sexy
booming out, and it was it was almost challenging. I
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wasn't sure if I needed to move with the with
the times and everything, but it did put a bit
of a smile on everyone's face. And I was the
last one of the shoots, so it was a bit
of fun. So I thought it is a great it's
a classic I remember when I was growing up, and
I can't remember when that song came up. When I
first heard it, I thought, oh, they call this music.
And I listened to it the other day and I thought, God,
that's kind of catchy. Anyway, just thought i'd share that
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with you because you're like, why are they playing I'm
so sexy? Obviously because Tim Beverage, Wow, what the hell? Anyway,
let's extend that theme at my first panelist. He's he's
the founder of Crane Brothers. I'm not sure if the
word what the different words we can use for tailors
as a cuturia, I'm not sure what it is, but anyway,
it's Murray Crane. Hello, Murray, how are you doing?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I'm good?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
How are you not too bad?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Just thinking about you dancing?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I wasn't actually dancing. I actually that's the thing, because
I mean, who's going to get up and start dancing
in the middle of a photoshot?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
But you are?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
No, No, it's not my bag anyway. And she is
editor of New Zealand Garden Magazine and the March issue
is out now. Lots of lovely photos of looks like
airloom tomatoes and some other tomatoes and peppers and onions
and apples and everything. It is. Joe McCarroll, Hello, Joe,
how are you, Hallo? How's things going at the magazine?
You keep me out of mischief?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Well, it's basy time for my people, harvest season, as
it says on the cover. So you know we are
flat tag.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
The fajoas are ready. The Golden Queen peaches are ready.
Your tomatoes are pumping.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The Golden Queen peaches they are. I bought some growny man,
They're tasty.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
So good, the best, the Queen of peaches.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, good name, then, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I've told you my Golden Queen peach story about my
apricot tree that became a Golden Queen peach tree. No,
oh what because my apricot tree which wasn't producing this,
tell it quickly. It's not a gardening owl. But I
chopped it off right at the ground level, and then
it grew back like a ceiling from the rootstock. But
the rootstock it had been grafted to was Golden Queen
and now it's an amazing Golden Queen peak.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Well, actually on the gardening thing as well. Look, and
I know it's not a gardening have, but we can
surely share a little bit about ourselves. We've planted a
few herbs and basil, koreanda parsley, time chives and things.
My daughter's looking after them. And I found that actually
watering your herbs regularly, it really does pay off, because
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you wonder, why is that dying?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah, anyway, bought you're quite a few copies of the
zilland Gardener. Obviously not sticking.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
But it's just you've just got to get that habit
where you get out of the car or something happens
and you cast your eye one direction, you go, that's right.
Got to do that, or my daughter does. Anyway, anyway,
shall we get into it? Are you a gardener?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
By the way, No, I don't have a green finger,
don't you on my body? Really?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
The green thumb? I think green thumb, that's the one
I think when you don't know the actual adjective or
the metaphor, that's that's a bit of a pointer. Hey,
let's get into it first things. First, look, there is
a lot to get on top of with what's going
on in the Middle East. I found that the one
that jumps out at me of the week was the
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image of the submarine being hit by a torpedo by
the United States and submarine obviously, and just the power
of that explosion actually took my breath away. And I
just you know, I mean, the America, America has some
significant arms, I mean a huge amount of arms, and
I guess you don't want the water drag on. But god,
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that moment. Actually, even my daughter was watching, she goes,
oh my goodness, it was It's not just what jarring.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
It's not just the power of that as an event,
And for me it was because there were Australian personnel
on that on the warship went there, I believe, I
think there might have been, And so you think you
can just see how this will drag in country after
country after country.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
The thing that, yeah, I don't that's the first I've
heard of that, but I don't, I don't know. But
it was just the just the power of it. And
the other thing was heg Seth having his press conference,
and I mean, look, I know he's got you know,
he's the Secretary of War and all that, but the
way he sort of said it was a torpedo by
US submarine, the first such and such a quiet death,
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like he's reveling in the culture of death. I mean,
you know, sure, okay, I don't shed any tears over
the Deer Leader and things, but there was a certain
relishment over the metaphor. It was like you'd thought of it,
you know, and I just sort of thought, God, you're
a sick puppy. But I don't know, maybe I'm being
a bit harsh. What do you reckon, marry Well.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I think the significance was that it was the first
submarine strike on a military ship since the end of
the Second.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
World War by an American ship, because of course the
Falklands actually had some, yes, had some attacks.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
But yeah, so it was quite symbolic obviously. I don't know,
you know, there's lots of symbolism and war, and I
think there's lots of ways that you can look it up.
But the sky does seem like he's.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
He's getting off on it a bit too much. I think, Yes,
that's my view of it. Look, getting back to just
the whole cause of the war and everything. I mean,
there's lots of things we can say. I mean, the
idea that Marco Rubio said we had to go otherwise
Israel would have gone. I don't buy that, because I
know there have been times when Israel's wanted to do
something in America has said no, you don't, and they haven't.
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But it seems to me a lot of this is
probably driven by net and Yahoo as well. But the question,
of course is and I don't know really how to
go about this one, because they the idea that there
was a justification for it, and what that justification was
tied Christopher Luxin and knots. But you can sort of
understand why, you know, he's caught between a rock and
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a hard place, because we've got a fairly capricious U
as president. It doesn't like being criticized. What do you think, Joe.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Well, I think if you look at say Keir Starmer,
who has sort of U turned and U turned and
now is basically copy flat from both sides, you see,
you know's there's not something you can say that is
the right thing to say. But at the same time,
I actually support Helen Clark's feedback on this, which is
that it is an illegal action. And I think Pedro Sanchez,
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the Spanish PM, did call it when he said you
cannot answer one illegality with another.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, I mean, the thing is could it would Helen
Clark have said what she said if she was Prime minister,
Because my general take is there are a lot of
opinions around this and they're all legitimate. I mean, I
think there are a lot of interesting arguments to be
made on all sides of it. But would Helen Clark
have said that as Prime minister if she was Prime
Minister right now?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Well, I would hope so, And I would also say
that that is what I think we are looking for
is leaders with convictions.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah. Well yeah, but I mean it's a very well
express a conviction if you end up with another ten
percent tariff slaped on you or something. I mean, what
do you think, what do you think, Mary, Well, I
guess that's the risk.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
And you know, he doesn't want to be seen as
been as sick of fan in kind of just pandering
to the tyranny. But at the same time, he has
kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place
because he doesn't really know what the outcome of his
commentary or opinion could.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Be, how far it's going to go.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, so he's probably just trying to remain as neutral.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
As possible and pleasing nobody, just.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Kind of backfiring a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
What could he have said, I mean without maybe raising
his head too far above the parapet Joe.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I think this has brought home that Luxon is not
a natural skilled communicator. And I think Wayne Brown was
talking somewhere and he said he just says words and
I know what the meaning are, but he just puts
them in an order where they mean nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
So he has Swayne Brown speaking about himself.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
But Wayne Brown whose famous text and reply to those
protesters like if you I'm not sure the Prime Minister
can get away with him?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
That's clear communication. No, No, I mean I think he
has just a tendency to sound like a very early
iteration of chat GPT to me, like he's got that
management speak which appears to me nothing and I and
I think it's a real weakness.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, what should what should he have said that? What
do you what was the winning position for him to take?
Do you think for New Zealand? Because it's one thing
to say this is what we stand for, but it's
another thing when you are responsible for an economy that
feels the pain of tariffs and and and the and
the capricious natures of actions of Trump It's one thing
to say this is what we stand for, but you know,
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the rubber hits the road with the Prime Minister on
the international stage. So what do you reckon?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Well, I mean, I'm not claiming I know the right
thing to say, but I definitely think the wrong thing
to say is to say that like that, he's the
The position of the National Party has been that the
Labor are supporting basically, you know, the previous regime. And
I'm like, you can say this is a legal action
without supporting the previous regime. Two things can be wrong.
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The New Zealand voting public is capable of intelligent, nuanced thinking.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So I do want to sort of roll my eyes
when you say that.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I am I vote, and I just find the reductionism
and the reducing everything to a binary right or wrong,
and different things can be true.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
But we've created that climately wrong.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
But have we created it or well, we're.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Talking about it now. I mean, you know, we're damned
if we do, damned if we don't. It seems that,
you know, we say what's our stand what's our opinion,
but you could ask five different people on the street
and then you get five different opinions. So if you
look at a seasoned foreign affairs minister like mister Peters.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
What did he say? They forgotten for one?
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Well, but that's why it should be.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It means media didn't pick up on it. Maybe that's
the thing. You need to say something forgettable and.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Just not just not say anything that is going to
end up in the news.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I don't know if I quite buy into that level
of cynicism. Yeah, I would like for the leaders of
our country to take a stand to say things that
are difficult to say, to not be afraid to say, yeah,
thing that's challenging.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
But they are representing all of us when they're in
that position, and they you know, they do need to
be respectful of a lot of different things, whether it's
military or farming, or agricultural exports or there's there's a
lot of there's a lot of things going there's a
lot of noise, there's a lot of things going on
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in their head that they're trying to a lot of
people that want to keep happy. See, there was an
interesting they keep no one happy. There was an interesting
peace by an Iranian New Zealander. She's embarrassed and solicitor
based in Auckland, which was a response to Helen Clark,
and this is why I actually I'm quite happy we've
got people like Helen Clark saying what she says, it
doesn't doesn't ruffle my feathers at all. But the response
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to it was by a woman called Samira Ta Garvey,
and she basically says that it's all very well to
sort of talk about this, you know what lies in
legal texts and things like that, but she just argues
that in reality, you know what, I don't want to
do a disservice to her. She makes a very strong
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pushback about the realities of the situation that if you're
waiting for legal action and action from the UN, you'll
be waiting a very very long time because the UN and.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
This sort of situation is utterly useless. But you know,
of course, the pretexts the Americans said are preemptive strike.
I mean, the grounds for it look very shaky. But
the problem is now they've started. I really want them
to finish the job, because otherwise where are we left
and what is finishing the job? Looked like? Even what's
the name Carolyn Levitt saying, you know, we think we're
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going to achieve our objectives in four to six weeks.
What the objectives are? What are the objectives?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, and there's no precedent of that happening. In conflicts
in the Middle East, they generally escalate gradually.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Name one that's four weeks.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, well, I mean look what look what what's the
state of the Iraq government and government sort of situation.
What's the state of Afghanistan? You know, the Vietnam War
of course is now it's a communist state. I mean,
it's I'm not sure there's a bit a precedent that
shows these things turn out well. And that's the problem is,
I don't think they really knew what apart from I mean,
(15:44):
as I say, I think it's all Netanyahu driving the ship.
And then you know Trump's Trump's a big fan of
the strong man and everything. So yeah, I don't know
what else to say about it.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Well, and I think that one thing that I don't
want to talk about Trump too. I seem to say
that every time I come on. But well, there's a
lack of diplomacy, and diplomacy used to solve.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
A lot of alum or avoid.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Problems from happening, and that's where the UN probably had
more of a role. But when it's kind of a
sledgehammer approach, no diplomacy, everybody's kind of caught off guard
because they kind of their first things think did he
really say that? Or hang on a minute like that
doesn't like there's no kind of middle ground, there's no
kind of time to mediate or talk.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, but we're underway now, so that the thing is,
you know, I want them, I want them military. I
don't want the Iranian Guard to prevail. And I don't
know what happens in the vacuum that's going to happen,
but you know where it's underway now we think that's happened, right.
I did love what was what was Trump's latest statement
yesterday or the day before if he had an attacked
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a run, they would have had a nuclear weapon in
two weeks. I mean I've heard that before. I mean
nit and Yahoo. I found a clip on somebody put
it together on TikTok where for twenty five years he said, oh,
they're almost got a bomb. They've almost a bomb. They've
almost got a bomb. Okay, we don't want them getting
a bomb, but mass destruction.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, it does feel quite like we've we've heard this
song we have heard it before.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
A mission accomplished. Who said that? Oh, George w anyway, Hey, look,
we had to we had to talk about that. It's
it is a difficult time. And I guess the other
the only other thing it's is the other aspect to
it is the disruption that gets felt right in New
Zealand with people with New Zealanders being stranded. We're sending
a hercules over there, and you know, I don't imagine
many people or say I would like to fly via Dubai.
(17:31):
Thanks very much in the future, crikey one.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Hundred percent, and the New Zealanders who are there, and
and also like we really haven't even begun to see
what the ripple effects are going to be for New
Zealanders in New Zealand, what this is really going to
mean for retail, for petrol, for all of it. You know,
that's going to affect all of us.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, oh well, well just you know, but at least
not going to be the last last word that's said
on this, that's for sure. Anyway, we'll be back in
just a monment. We're going to take a break. This
is the panel of Joe mccarell and Murray Crane, I'm
Tim Beverage will be back in just to tech. We'll
start off the next one we've got apparently is it
poll trouble for Luxon. We'll discuss that whether polls are
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actually you know, how much we stock we want to
put in these things. In just a moment, it's twenty
four past three News Talks. I'd be yes, welcome back
my guests on the panel today, a Murray Crane and
Joe McCarroll. Now, Josh Luxan was under a bit of
pressure yesterday. There was a pole that was out from
the Taxpayers Union. It was the Taxpayers Union Curier poll
which sort of results had been sort of leaked I think. Anyway,
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it showed Labor gaining point three points to thirty four
point four one National dropping two point nine points to
twenty eight point four. And then the questions were, you know,
is Luxon gonna last to the election? And he appeared
on here the dou Percy Allen's show and said, there's
nothing of the sort. I'm fully supported by the by
my caucus colleagues, et cetera. And he was quite unequivocal
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about it. And anyway, I won't add Mike, I won't
add my gut reaction comments. I'll go with you, Murray.
What did you make of all this?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Well?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I was doing some kind of reading on this, and
I came across a quote that says, the significance of
the poll is a narrative. It creates, not necessarily the numbers. Yeah,
and I thought that was quite good. And what narrative
would you like to respond to that with? Well, it's
a narrative. It's someone's opinion. I mean, but it's a poll.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I mean, but how accurate is it? It's one poll, To.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Be honest, one, I don't buy it because I don't
think it'd be astounding that labor without announcing any policy
can be on thirty four point four, given that another
poll had National on thirty seven only a little while ago.
I don't know. It just seems a lot of noise
over one pole. What do you make of it? Joan?
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Look, I think you take these poles with a grain
of salt, all of them. They're just a snapshot of
a certain cohort of people in that moment of time.
But I mean, this is an extraordinary poll. I'd love
to see if, say, National under Simon Bridges got to
those numbers. I didn't look up Hello, he went, but.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I mean it wasn't Prime Minister, I guess, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
But this is a government in its first term. You
know these numbers would be that pole and what that
reflects that that would be low for an opposition party.
And I think I do not believe we have ever
had a national one term government, but I wouldn't be
surprised if this was a national one term government. I
don't actually think Luckxelon will be rolled.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
No.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I think that's because who would replace them. Chris Bishops
special is a charisma vacuum.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And pretty I mean because he's got some left wing
flavors term as well with his housing policy and he
wants I.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Just wonder if the thinking would be let Luxem lose
the election and then rollin.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I think the pole is complete. BS. Now my colors
to the mast on this is that there's no way
that there's been some swing where National ha been on
thirty four whatever and all of a sudden they're in
twenty eight. I just think that the polling, the polling,
I mean you've seen Gallup has stopped doing its presidential
polls in the States because they just can't you know,
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their approval ratings because they just can't get a decent
read given the various ways people engage with it. Used
to be everyone had a landline that it's sort of
a mobile who's in you know, the natural inbuilt biases
about it. I just think that it's it's it's like,
so what will happen is one News will have their
poll and they'll pretend it's the only poll, and yet
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there'll be another poll the week before which completely contradicts it.
But they go on and they try to generate news
off one pole, whether plus or minus margin ever of
three percent. So now my bet is it's bollocks.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
But I actually take Mary's point. Regardless it's being reported on,
it's in the media, and therefore it does.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Slow news week.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Well, actually it was a particularly a challenging week for Luxon,
Like it wasn't his best work, but.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
He's having these but challenging communication a challenge.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
But whether you like the guy or not, it's been
a challenging time. Like, like, they've pretty much been pissing
people off for the last two years because they've had
to deliver so much bad news. You know that they're
kind of it. They are they are in a very
difficult position. And whoever, because the country is in a
difficult position, so whoever was in there, they'd be dealing
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with the same problems. And you know, I mean, all
the optics are bad, but all the figures are good,
like they are making progress.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
So the interesting thing what do you want?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Do you want someone in there where it's We've had
a popularity contest that didn't work.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I still see what's his name, I've forgotten his name,
all of his hipkins. I keep on wanting to say Hitchins,
because there was a Christopher Hitchins. He still reminds me
of the artist standing back, going, oh, look at how
these guys haven't rebuilt their house. I've bent down. But
that's just my personal view on it. But the other
comment that is going to be a prime minister anyway,
so it'll be fun. The interesting point that was made
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is on Heather Show, people are saying, well, if things
go really badly with the war, that's going to really
affect New Zealand and the government's going to pay the
price for that. Earlier on Joe said that the voter
was quite smart. But if the voter's going to blame
the existing government for stuff outside its control. Then the
voters are not that smart.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But it won't be the voter. It will start with
the media. That's where it will start. So if the
media blame the government, the voter will blame the government.
Oh hot take in the media, which is what you
were saying five minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, I did have a crack at beneit at Collins on.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
His So it's all about the dialogue.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Hey, let's move on to fun things, shall we. So
Dave Rennie has been made the new coach. I know,
you know this is it's not a sports show, but
it's a big deal that the All Blacks transcend, you know,
so many different right through New Zealand society. I will
give my hot take on that was I've sort of
generally lost interest in the All Blacks except for the
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Northern Hemisphere tour. But now with Dave Rennie in there,
Jamie Joseph, I would have been just as happy. I
don't know, I just since there's this earthiness that's the
and the tour. I mean, he's been through the school
of hard knocks. They're off to South Africa. I'm going
to be absolutely glued to the All Blacks prospects this
year and an old school tour of South Africa is
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going to be great fun. I'm not sure, are you?
And what do you reckon? Joe? We'll get to start
with you.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Look, I'm a bit of a fair weather fan. It's
fair to but you know, I think he's got a
strong track record, you know, building tough cultures, you know.
But I'd say there's clearly some cultural issues in terms
of leadership, in terms of consistency, you know, with with
the all blacks, and I think that's what you want
someone to take a step back and not be afraid
(25:00):
to make the changes that are required.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, what do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Well, I saw a great piece on spin Off and
we're allowed to mention them on saying that he was
going to succeed because he had a grumpy face and
that all other great New Zealand all black coaches have
been just as grumpy, and if you actually look at
them all side by side, it's the grumpy ones that
do well.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
So Actually, because Steve Hansen was a fairly grumpy Ian,
Foster was unlucky not to do slightly better. And he's
he seemed to be the sort of Smiley, most amenable.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Guy Graham, Henry Graham, Henry Grumpy.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
So there is some maybe there are some logics.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
But look, I think it's you know now that they
finally made the decision. And I think we were still
shocked when Scott Robertson left, you know, it was was dumped,
not left of his own volition. And of course, you know,
you would have assumed that after seven victories with the Crusaders,
he had it all. You know, he had a long
ten ten you're ahead of them, and yet now David
Renni's in charge. So but yeah, do you remember getting
(26:08):
up Do you ever get up in the middle of
the night when you were for the you know, the
tour of South Africa and watching them play trans Vale
and Pretoria and.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Well I was almost getting up and listening to it
on the wireless, but not quite.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Did you ever get up and watch sport in the
middle of the night, Jones?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Sometimes for the Olympics or something?
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Really?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, gosh, the whole days before video before when did
video come around?
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Look, let's be let's where we're so very old.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Let's not date ourselves too quickly, Okay, right, tell you what,
Let's come back and talk about David Seymour wanting us
to become New Zealand, to become the cannabis powerhouse much
and get a nice Suvinyon blanc and a nice medicinal
cannabis all courtesy of New Zealand were back in just
the tickets twenty three and a half minutes to four.
Yes News Talk said, be the panel today with Murray
(26:54):
Crane and Joe McCarroll. Now this is I surprised how
much cannabis we've exported. There's a Ministry of Health paper
shows that we released we exported more than a ton
of cannabis flower in twenty twenty four and David Seymour
believes New Zealand could become a high value powerhouse for
exporting medicinal cannabis. I almost wonder whether we should be
(27:16):
exporting the you know, the stuff that just gets you
high as well to places where it's legal. But just
a positive news export story. Why wouldn't you find this
New Zealand green beef coming from New Zealand? What do
you think? Joe Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
I thought Seymour's you know, every three years he reverts
to sounding relatively sane. Prior to the election because yeah, completely,
I think that would you know, if this could be
an export crop, not just medicinal cannabis, but also hemp
is a fiber. You know, I think there's a real
potential there, but I would say we would surely be
very far behind a lot of other countries if this
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is going to be an export positive littlelone an export boom.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, it was for medicinal cannabis, so a couple of
years three years ago it was one hundred and eighty
four point three kilograms, and before that was only forty
nine kilograms, which is basically enough. That's sort of what
they probably see in someone's luggage they're coming.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
What do they expect exporting? Is it the oil or well?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I just see it's more than a time of cannabis flower.
I'm not sure if it's Yeah, it's it's a funny one,
doesn't it. It's a medicinal cannabis export. But it looks
like it's exported and it's sort of you know, natural state.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
And where's it going to?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I don't know, but obviously in places that want to
utilize it, I think it's bigger. The biggest markets are Australia,
Portugal and Uruguay. So yeah, anyway, drugs and they yes, anyway, It's.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Probably quite a good way to up the school lunch consumption, though.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Given what's one cheers.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I know a friend of mine works in pharmacy, and
he was visiting a medicinal cannabis growth factory or a
place that they're growing, and he has to have a
special note because when he leaves it, he smells so
strongly of cannabis that if he's stops, if you stopped
by the police, he has to have a special I
work in the medicinal cannabis.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
How do you get one of those?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I couldn't even tell you what I mean. I know
it smoked cannabis smells like from It's probably one of
those smells from decades ago. I don't know what raur.
I couldn't tell you if I recognized what rawal cannabis
would smell like.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
But I can imagine it'd be very pungent.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
I think the oil is in that same smell that
you might remember from the seventies ten.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Speak for yourself. God, hell, but how do you think
I am? Crikey? Anyway? Hey, Look, by the way, I
was quite surprised to see this big change to trade
me that they were removing success fees for casual sellers,
and apparently with this one marketing expertis said it's probably
(29:51):
a response to the growing power of Facebook marketplace. I
must say, I haven't remember when Facebook was in it. Sorry,
trade me was in its heyday. It seemed just about
everyone was on trade me every other day looking for
a Still I've been looking for a couple of things
on trade me, not too seriously, but I think Sam
(30:12):
Morgan was the one who sold out. I mean, what
did he sell it for? How many hundred million did
he sell it for? I think the person who's done
the best out of trade me and will never be
better does Sam Morgan probably when he sold it for
many hundreds of millions success fee. Well.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Actually, I've been looking at it recently because I want
to buy some outdoor furniture and I haven't looked at
trade for a long time, and I was quite struck.
You know, it used to be people selling things that
didn't need it whatever, and now it just seems like
it's all these kind of professional sellers who are selling
like a you know, and.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
They get charged success fees.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I believe, but you know.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
They're just selling things that they've brought in and imported themselves.
It's like it's like a version of Temu that you
bought on Timo, do you know what I mean? Like
you're just getting these cheap because it probably is. Yeah,
And I mean I wouldn't touch Facebook marketplace. You know,
when I've tried to give something away we didn't need,
you know, it's just oh, the time wasting and the
scams and the the is it still available instant message?
(31:06):
You know, I'm just I don't want to go near
I to try.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
We tried it with some ski gear or something that
was a complete waste of time, and I just thought, well,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
But what I hope with that successful thing is people
might start selling things they don't need anymore on trade me,
because that's where it's sort of useful, not just.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Here's the other That's how the marketplace started, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Here's the other thing. A lot of the conversations I've
had just on talkback around a few people are looking
for secondhand things. Is just the charity shop thing, the
hospice shops and the different there's so many different charity shops.
And I know people who who say, you can get
some amazing stuff at charity shops, and that if they'd know,
and they wouldn't have gone and got their silverware from
(31:48):
you know, wherever they got it from the cutlery, plates, pots, pans,
you know, deck, furniture, furniture. It's some of those big
charity stores have an amazing range of stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Sure, And I think the other thing with trade me
is that people's buying habits have changed. There's not as
much stuff out there that people can actually resell because
they're buying crap the whole time.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
So it's stuff off.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Team and buying stuff off Sheine and buying stuff off Amazon.
Like it's not like you're holding onto it for ten
years and then you're going, oh, well now I'm going
to resell it or give it someone else. Like we're not.
We don't buy things to last a lifetime anymore. So,
So over time, op shops, secondhand stores, second marketplaces like
(32:32):
trade me are going to struggle to get good product.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Because already, you know, people in that space have said publicly,
you know, people are bringing in these clothes and they're
just you know, they're ragged. You know, they can't be
washed the.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
What a tragedy that we buy. I mean, look, I
think you think to our parents generation in terms of
kitchen appliances that lasted forever. I mean you can still
buy things that will you know, have a bit of longevity.
But I mean, do you buy for longevity, Joe, when
you buy on.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Price, absolutely buy for longevity. And I buy so much
less than I used to. And I'm very interested when
I think this is the second hand option because I
just do not want more stuff. I find that thing
with you know, whenever you you know, you see like
a skip out on the road and it's just full
of things going to landfill, and I just think that's obscene.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, it's funny. When I did the show with Tim Roxbury,
he took great amusement at the fact I bought a
couple of things through. There's a French brand of shoes
or Italian called Mefisto, and I bought it because I
bought them when we're over the years ago and I thought, God,
they're the best. But by the time duty kicked in,
I'm not going to tell you. There was a pair
of sort of hiking type, you know, durable sandals sort
(33:45):
of for summer, and I made the mistake of telling
Tim how much it had ended up costing me, which
was ridiculous, and he was like, oh, Viva was wearing
as so many hundred dollars pairs of sandals, but you
know what that is six years ago and they barely
look that like they've been broken coss per twenty years.
Tell me going to be able to say, Tim, how
(34:07):
many pairs of channels you've been They're still going you know,
quality quality, it's.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Worse quality, and it's something that you can pass on.
You know. That seems to me it's going to be
cheaper for you in the long run.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
And better for the planet.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I think there was some tradement. Somebody said that trade
me had a massive crackdown on sell us the point
that if you sell more than a certain amount, they
label your account as in trade instead of a casual seller.
So there's still you know, some issues around people getting
charged when they're probably resenting that no no, no.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Well also I think they've you have to use the
payment system PEN now, which means that is a well,
there's a lot of benefits that I think because it's
an instant payment, but also if there is a scam.
You have got some comeback. I mean I think I
have lost count of the number of people I know
who've been scammed on you know, buying or selling and
(34:58):
in trade me sometimes but definitely on Facebook marketplace. Hey.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
By the way, this other story just to touch on
before the break, there would have been a time when
this would have really got quite a lot of attention.
But Bunning's using facial recognition recognition to fight retail crime.
They're saying also threatening behavior towards retail workers, et cetera,
et cetera. So they're bringing in facial recognition technology. All
(35:22):
I can think of is good on them. It's their
business if people are coming in and stealing stuff, if
they're using facial recognition, I mean, as long as they
don't have someone come up to me because they recognize
me and say, have you managed to find that screwdriver
you were looking for? But I mean, maybe I don't
know what. It's not particularly controversial.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Is it, Joe. Well, I mean, I'm kind of I
actually completely support this because the level of retail crime
I am seeing just walking around is egregious, and as
someone who has to pay for that by the prices
going up for me. But at the same time it
(35:59):
is a as you It will come to the point
where you will walk in and they will say, hey,
can we know your front door needs painting at your
dress which we know, oh blimey, But I just think
you just I mean I was at the supermarket the
other day and I just saw someone walk out and
you just think the poor stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I don't mind being supermarkets are already trialing it though
they have been for quite some time, so I don't
think it's new.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I love the one where they reckon. I've seen it
a year or two ago, and some places in London
supermarkets you literally just go around, pop things in your
trolley and just walk out and it knows exactly what
you've had you here already, can you yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Last years?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Really?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, that sounds like a flash super market?
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Was that.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Probably something? Actually?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Do you have to worry about shoplifting? Probably not? I
mean work and you're still without being noticed.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I know we've had about two things. This isn't a
challenge to anyone, but I think we've had about two
things taken in the last twenty seven years, so.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Okay, yeah, that's because there's it's a high service at
that Crane Brothers. You walk in and it's like hello, Yeah, anyway, hey, look,
we'll be back in just a moment. This is the
panel with Murray Crane, founder of Crane Brothers, and Joe
McCall she's editor of New Zealand Garden and Magazine. But
Gardener Magazine. Don't forget to go get your March issue.
It's harvest season, so go and get your issue of
(37:20):
New Zealand Garden Magazine. Will back in just the tickets
ten to four News Talk z B the last little
bite of the cherry on on our panel with Murray
Crane and Joe McCarroll. If One kicks off in Melbourne
this weekend. Totally different specs, well, totally new new specs
for the cars and with the engine and the battery
and the balancing of power and all that sort of stuff.
(37:43):
I think IF One is an amazing product, and I've
been drawn into it by the Netflix series and now
and we've got Liam Lawson in there as well, so
I'll be right into it. Joe, I am.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah, you know, I wouldn't say it was a super fan,
but yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see what
happens in Melbourne though, new cars, new regulations, new batteries
like and more overtaking and more competitive. I mean, I
feel like Max for staff and has just won every
single one for my natural He didn't win the last one,
but you know you want there to be a race.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah. Also, I've got Cadillac in, you know, which is
an interesting brand to sort of suddenly their Yanks have arrived.
Murray you into the F one and if you've got
high hopes for Liam Lawson.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Very much into it, always have high hopes for Lamb.
I think he has had a fairly torrid time there,
but he's survived, he's driven to survive. Yeah, I think
he could have a good year this year. Car looks
pretty competitive and he's got a new I think his
new team behind him.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
His teammate looks like he's pretty good too.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah. Well, he has been in put his practice, put
in some good hasn't put it on the wall yet,
so no, he might pull back a bit after that.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Do you have a particular car brand that you'd like
to see do well.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I'm quite decided about Aldi coming and I think that
they could do really well. I think it'll probably take
a couple of years. But I think they've got the
chops to be a competitor top.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
I like the fact I liked the guys at MacLaren,
like the drivers seem like, you know, interesting personality. They
can all string the thing about f one as well.
They're all fluent, intelligent, you know, young young people. And
when they do an interview afterwards, it's not like all
the team Plode will doing a single anyone out. They
sometimes have a bit of a bitch about things. They
(39:36):
wear their hearts on their sleeves, they sat something intellassionate,
you know.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I actually think that is the drive to survive effect though,
because they have to be able to not just drive
the car but also front the sport.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
And I think it's probably the most brutal and ruthless
process to become an IF one driver. And if you
look at the difference between the top drivers and the
middle of the pack in terms of time, I mean
we're talking milliseconds, I know.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
And perhaps I think you were saying in the break
they have actually they limit that. That's not going to
mean that car isn't going to be quite as fast
it might be. Yeah, And the whole management of the
fuel versus it's all it's all green too. I think
all the fuels are, but their their sort of sustainable
fuels as well, so you know, if.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
One's necessarily green, but greener the.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Tires washing green. Hey thanks guys, nice to see you.
Joe McCarroll, Murray Crane. We'll be back with the One
Roof radio show. Nicole Lewis is with us, talking about
you know well. You'll find out for.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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my shirt, so sexy it hurts, and i am too
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And I'm too sexy for your party, to sexy for
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Speaker 3 (00:50):
The way, I'm just going dancing. I'm Mary Yes, and
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Nicole Lewis is a guest. She's a CEO of the
Property Lifestyle and we're going to talk about how do
you make sure your first home won't be a hard
resell because you would have might have caught up with
a story about townhouses and just what they are not
(01:32):
even selling in the markets. You know, in certain parts
of the market it's hard, hard to get things turning
over without dropping your price significantly. And also we'll buy
into that. We're talking to that Key we saber thing
about people who are through their service or their employment
have to live in a particular house, and so Key
Wesaver is going to be allowed to be withdrawn for
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those people to buy a house that they don't live in.
We're going to explore that and whether it needs to
be extended further. At five for the parents squad Google
Sutherlands with us. He's a psychologist at Umbrella Well Being
talking about a childhood ed early childhood education. How important
is it when you know, should you really get your
kids in there? And is it for education or is
it for socialization? And which is when and what and how?
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do that parents no longer that keenon biking to score
probably shortly before six. Of course, we also have the
sports wrap Chris Reeb will be with us. We've got
lots to preview. The Highlanders and force will be underway.
There's the Blues and Crusaders, Brumbies and Reds and if
(02:35):
one is getting underway as well, which I am reasonably
excited about. Anyway, lots to get into. Welcome to the
Weekend Collective. It is eight minutes past three.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Tim Beveridge on the Weekend Collective called eight hundred eighty
ten eighty News Talk ZEB.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
By the way, there was a reason for that for
that little bit of theme music was that we had
our photoshoot for z B and when it was my turn,
they said, oh, you want to have some theme music,
and I just lightheartedly says I'm too sexy. And it's
funny when you take the when you when you get
in front of the camera and there's I'm too sexy
booming out, and it was it was almost challenging. I
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wasn't sure if I needed to move with the with
the times and everything, but it did put a bit
of a smile on everyone's face. And I was the
last one of the shoots, so it was a bit
of fun. So I thought it is a great it's
a classic I remember when I was growing up, and
I can't remember when that song came up. When I
first heard it, I thought, oh, they call this music.
And I listened to it the other day and I thought, God,
that's kind of catchy. Anyway, just thought i'd share that
(03:35):
with you because you're like, why are they playing I'm
so sexy? Obviously because Tim Beverage, Wow, what the hell? Anyway,
let's extend that theme at my first panelist. He's he's
the founder of Crane Brothers. I'm not sure if the
word what the different words we can use for tailors
as a cuturia, I'm not sure what it is, but anyway,
it's Murray Crane. Hello, Murray, how are you doing?
Speaker 4 (03:56):
I'm good?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
How are you not too bad?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Just thinking about you dancing?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
I wasn't actually dancing. I actually that's the thing, because
I mean, who's going to get up and start dancing
in the middle of a photoshot?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
But you are?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
No, No, it's not my bag anyway. And she is
editor of New Zealand Garden Magazine and the March issue
is out now. Lots of lovely photos of looks like
airloom tomatoes and some other tomatoes and peppers and onions
and apples and everything. It is. Joe McCarroll, Hello, Joe,
how are you, Hallo? How's things going at the magazine?
You keep me out of mischief?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
Well, it's basy time for my people, harvest season, as
it says on the cover. So you know we are
flat tag.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
You know.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
The fajoas are ready. The Golden Queen peaches are ready.
Your tomatoes are pumping.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
The Golden Queen peaches they are. I bought some growny man,
They're tasty.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
So good, the best, the Queen of peaches.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, good name, then, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
I've told you my Golden Queen peach story about my
apricot tree that became a Golden Queen peach tree. No,
oh what because my apricot tree which wasn't producing this,
tell it quickly. It's not a gardening owl. But I
chopped it off right at the ground level, and then
it grew back like a ceiling from the rootstock. But
the rootstock it had been grafted to was Golden Queen
and now it's an amazing Golden Queen peak.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Well, actually on the gardening thing as well. Look, and
I know it's not a gardening have, but we can
surely share a little bit about ourselves. We've planted a
few herbs and basil, koreanda parsley, time chives and things.
My daughter's looking after them. And I found that actually
watering your herbs regularly, it really does pay off, because
(05:33):
you wonder, why is that dying?
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yeah, anyway, bought you're quite a few copies of the
zilland Gardener. Obviously not sticking.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
But it's just you've just got to get that habit
where you get out of the car or something happens
and you cast your eye one direction, you go, that's right.
Got to do that, or my daughter does. Anyway, anyway,
shall we get into it? Are you a gardener?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
By the way, No, I don't have a green finger,
don't you on my body? Really?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
The green thumb? I think green thumb, that's the one
I think when you don't know the actual adjective or
the metaphor, that's that's a bit of a pointer. Hey,
let's get into it first things. First, look, there is
a lot to get on top of with what's going
on in the Middle East. I found that the one
that jumps out at me of the week was the
(06:18):
image of the submarine being hit by a torpedo by
the United States and submarine obviously, and just the power
of that explosion actually took my breath away. And I
just you know, I mean, the America, America has some
significant arms, I mean a huge amount of arms, and
I guess you don't want the water drag on. But god,
(06:40):
that moment. Actually, even my daughter was watching, she goes,
oh my goodness, it was It's not just what jarring.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
It's not just the power of that as an event,
And for me it was because there were Australian personnel
on that on the warship went there, I believe, I
think there might have been, And so you think you
can just see how this will drag in country after
country after country.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
The thing that, yeah, I don't that's the first I've
heard of that, but I don't, I don't know. But
it was just the just the power of it. And
the other thing was heg Seth having his press conference,
and I mean, look, I know he's got you know,
he's the Secretary of War and all that, but the
way he sort of said it was a torpedo by
US submarine, the first such and such a quiet death,
(07:27):
like he's reveling in the culture of death. I mean,
you know, sure, okay, I don't shed any tears over
the Deer Leader and things, but there was a certain
relishment over the metaphor. It was like you'd thought of it,
you know, and I just sort of thought, God, you're
a sick puppy. But I don't know, maybe I'm being
a bit harsh. What do you reckon, marry Well.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I think the significance was that it was the first
submarine strike on a military ship since the end of
the Second.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
World War by an American ship, because of course the
Falklands actually had some, yes, had some attacks.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
But yeah, so it was quite symbolic obviously. I don't know,
you know, there's lots of symbolism and war, and I
think there's lots of ways that you can look it up.
But the sky does seem like he's.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
He's getting off on it a bit too much. I think, Yes,
that's my view of it. Look, getting back to just
the whole cause of the war and everything. I mean,
there's lots of things we can say. I mean, the
idea that Marco Rubio said we had to go otherwise
Israel would have gone. I don't buy that, because I
know there have been times when Israel's wanted to do
something in America has said no, you don't, and they haven't.
(08:38):
But it seems to me a lot of this is
probably driven by net and Yahoo as well. But the question,
of course is and I don't know really how to
go about this one, because they the idea that there
was a justification for it, and what that justification was
tied Christopher Luxin and knots. But you can sort of
understand why, you know, he's caught between a rock and
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a hard place, because we've got a fairly capricious U
as president. It doesn't like being criticized. What do you think, Joe.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Well, I think if you look at say Keir Starmer,
who has sort of U turned and U turned and
now is basically copy flat from both sides, you see,
you know's there's not something you can say that is
the right thing to say. But at the same time,
I actually support Helen Clark's feedback on this, which is
that it is an illegal action. And I think Pedro Sanchez,
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the Spanish PM, did call it when he said you
cannot answer one illegality with another.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
Yeah, I mean, the thing is could it would Helen
Clark have said what she said if she was Prime minister,
Because my general take is there are a lot of
opinions around this and they're all legitimate. I mean, I
think there are a lot of interesting arguments to be
made on all sides of it. But would Helen Clark
have said that as Prime minister if she was Prime
Minister right now?
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Well, I would hope so, And I would also say
that that is what I think we are looking for
is leaders with convictions.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yeah. Well yeah, but I mean it's a very well
express a conviction if you end up with another ten
percent tariff slaped on you or something. I mean, what
do you think, what do you think, Mary, Well, I
guess that's the risk.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
And you know, he doesn't want to be seen as
been as sick of fan in kind of just pandering
to the tyranny. But at the same time, he has
kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place
because he doesn't really know what the outcome of his
commentary or opinion could.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Be, how far it's going to go.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Yeah, so he's probably just trying to remain as neutral.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
As possible and pleasing nobody, just.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Kind of backfiring a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
What could he have said, I mean without maybe raising
his head too far above the parapet Joe.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I think this has brought home that Luxon is not
a natural skilled communicator. And I think Wayne Brown was
talking somewhere and he said he just says words and
I know what the meaning are, but he just puts
them in an order where they mean nothing.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
So he has Swayne Brown speaking about himself.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
But Wayne Brown whose famous text and reply to those
protesters like if you I'm not sure the Prime Minister
can get away with him?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
That's clear communication. No, No, I mean I think he
has just a tendency to sound like a very early
iteration of chat GPT to me, like he's got that
management speak which appears to me nothing and I and
I think it's a real weakness.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, what should what should he have said that? What
do you what was the winning position for him to take?
Do you think for New Zealand? Because it's one thing
to say this is what we stand for, but it's
another thing when you are responsible for an economy that
feels the pain of tariffs and and and the and
the capricious natures of actions of Trump It's one thing
to say this is what we stand for, but you know,
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the rubber hits the road with the Prime Minister on
the international stage. So what do you reckon?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Well, I mean, I'm not claiming I know the right
thing to say, but I definitely think the wrong thing
to say is to say that like that, he's the
The position of the National Party has been that the
Labor are supporting basically, you know, the previous regime. And
I'm like, you can say this is a legal action
without supporting the previous regime. Two things can be wrong.
(12:17):
The New Zealand voting public is capable of intelligent, nuanced thinking.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
So I do want to sort of roll my eyes
when you say that.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I am I vote, and I just find the reductionism
and the reducing everything to a binary right or wrong,
and different things can be true.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
But we've created that climately wrong.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
But have we created it or well, we're.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Talking about it now. I mean, you know, we're damned
if we do, damned if we don't. It seems that,
you know, we say what's our stand what's our opinion,
but you could ask five different people on the street
and then you get five different opinions. So if you
look at a seasoned foreign affairs minister like mister Peters.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
What did he say? They forgotten for one?
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Well, but that's why it should be.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It means media didn't pick up on it. Maybe that's
the thing. You need to say something forgettable and.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Just not just not say anything that is going to
end up in the news.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
I don't know if I quite buy into that level
of cynicism. Yeah, I would like for the leaders of
our country to take a stand to say things that
are difficult to say, to not be afraid to say, yeah,
thing that's challenging.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
But they are representing all of us when they're in
that position, and they you know, they do need to
be respectful of a lot of different things, whether it's
military or farming, or agricultural exports or there's there's a
lot of there's a lot of things going there's a
lot of noise, there's a lot of things going on
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in their head that they're trying to a lot of
people that want to keep happy. See, there was an
interesting they keep no one happy. There was an interesting
peace by an Iranian New Zealander. She's embarrassed and solicitor
based in Auckland, which was a response to Helen Clark,
and this is why I actually I'm quite happy we've
got people like Helen Clark saying what she says, it
doesn't doesn't ruffle my feathers at all. But the response
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to it was by a woman called Samira Ta Garvey,
and she basically says that it's all very well to
sort of talk about this, you know what lies in
legal texts and things like that, but she just argues
that in reality, you know what, I don't want to
do a disservice to her. She makes a very strong
(14:38):
pushback about the realities of the situation that if you're
waiting for legal action and action from the UN, you'll
be waiting a very very long time because the UN and.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
This sort of situation is utterly useless. But you know,
of course, the pretexts the Americans said are preemptive strike.
I mean, the grounds for it look very shaky. But
the problem is now they've started. I really want them
to finish the job, because otherwise where are we left
and what is finishing the job? Looked like? Even what's
the name Carolyn Levitt saying, you know, we think we're
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going to achieve our objectives in four to six weeks.
What the objectives are? What are the objectives?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Well, and there's no precedent of that happening. In conflicts
in the Middle East, they generally escalate gradually.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Name one that's four weeks.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, well, I mean look what look what what's the
state of the Iraq government and government sort of situation.
What's the state of Afghanistan? You know, the Vietnam War
of course is now it's a communist state. I mean,
it's I'm not sure there's a bit a precedent that
shows these things turn out well. And that's the problem is,
I don't think they really knew what apart from I mean,
(15:44):
as I say, I think it's all Netanyahu driving the ship.
And then you know Trump's Trump's a big fan of
the strong man and everything. So yeah, I don't know
what else to say about it.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
Well, and I think that one thing that I don't
want to talk about Trump too. I seem to say
that every time I come on. But well, there's a
lack of diplomacy, and diplomacy used to solve.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
A lot of alum or avoid.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Problems from happening, and that's where the UN probably had
more of a role. But when it's kind of a
sledgehammer approach, no diplomacy, everybody's kind of caught off guard
because they kind of their first things think did he
really say that? Or hang on a minute like that
doesn't like there's no kind of middle ground, there's no
kind of time to mediate or talk.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, but we're underway now, so that the thing is,
you know, I want them, I want them military. I
don't want the Iranian Guard to prevail. And I don't
know what happens in the vacuum that's going to happen,
but you know where it's underway now we think that's happened, right.
I did love what was what was Trump's latest statement
yesterday or the day before if he had an attacked
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a run, they would have had a nuclear weapon in
two weeks. I mean I've heard that before. I mean
nit and Yahoo. I found a clip on somebody put
it together on TikTok where for twenty five years he said, oh,
they're almost got a bomb. They've almost a bomb. They've
almost got a bomb. Okay, we don't want them getting
a bomb, but mass destruction.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, it does feel quite like we've we've heard this
song we have heard it before.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
A mission accomplished. Who said that? Oh, George w anyway, Hey, look,
we had to we had to talk about that. It's
it is a difficult time. And I guess the other
the only other thing it's is the other aspect to
it is the disruption that gets felt right in New
Zealand with people with New Zealanders being stranded. We're sending
a hercules over there, and you know, I don't imagine
many people or say I would like to fly via Dubai.
(17:31):
Thanks very much in the future, crikey one.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Hundred percent, and the New Zealanders who are there, and
and also like we really haven't even begun to see
what the ripple effects are going to be for New
Zealanders in New Zealand, what this is really going to
mean for retail, for petrol, for all of it. You know,
that's going to affect all of us.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, oh well, well just you know, but at least
not going to be the last last word that's said
on this, that's for sure. Anyway, we'll be back in
just a monment. We're going to take a break. This
is the panel of Joe mccarell and Murray Crane, I'm
Tim Beverage will be back in just to tech. We'll
start off the next one we've got apparently is it
poll trouble for Luxon. We'll discuss that whether polls are
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actually you know, how much we stock we want to
put in these things. In just a moment, it's twenty
four past three News Talks. I'd be yes, welcome back
my guests on the panel today, a Murray Crane and
Joe McCarroll. Now, Josh Luxan was under a bit of
pressure yesterday. There was a pole that was out from
the Taxpayers Union. It was the Taxpayers Union Curier poll
which sort of results had been sort of leaked I think. Anyway,
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it showed Labor gaining point three points to thirty four
point four one National dropping two point nine points to
twenty eight point four. And then the questions were, you know,
is Luxon gonna last to the election? And he appeared
on here the dou Percy Allen's show and said, there's
nothing of the sort. I'm fully supported by the by
my caucus colleagues, et cetera. And he was quite unequivocal
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about it. And anyway, I won't add Mike, I won't
add my gut reaction comments. I'll go with you, Murray.
What did you make of all this?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Well?
Speaker 4 (19:04):
I was doing some kind of reading on this, and
I came across a quote that says, the significance of
the poll is a narrative. It creates, not necessarily the numbers. Yeah,
and I thought that was quite good. And what narrative
would you like to respond to that with? Well, it's
a narrative. It's someone's opinion. I mean, but it's a poll.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I mean, but how accurate is it? It's one poll, To.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Be honest, one, I don't buy it because I don't
think it'd be astounding that labor without announcing any policy
can be on thirty four point four, given that another
poll had National on thirty seven only a little while ago.
I don't know. It just seems a lot of noise
over one pole. What do you make of it? Joan?
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Look, I think you take these poles with a grain
of salt, all of them. They're just a snapshot of
a certain cohort of people in that moment of time.
But I mean, this is an extraordinary poll. I'd love
to see if, say, National under Simon Bridges got to
those numbers. I didn't look up Hello, he went, but.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
I mean it wasn't Prime Minister, I guess, but yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:08):
But this is a government in its first term. You
know these numbers would be that pole and what that
reflects that that would be low for an opposition party.
And I think I do not believe we have ever
had a national one term government, but I wouldn't be
surprised if this was a national one term government. I
don't actually think Luckxelon will be rolled.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
No.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
I think that's because who would replace them. Chris Bishops
special is a charisma vacuum.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And pretty I mean because he's got some left wing
flavors term as well with his housing policy and he
wants I.
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Just wonder if the thinking would be let Luxem lose
the election and then rollin.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I think the pole is complete. BS. Now my colors
to the mast on this is that there's no way
that there's been some swing where National ha been on
thirty four whatever and all of a sudden they're in
twenty eight. I just think that the polling, the polling,
I mean you've seen Gallup has stopped doing its presidential
polls in the States because they just can't you know,
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their approval ratings because they just can't get a decent
read given the various ways people engage with it. Used
to be everyone had a landline that it's sort of
a mobile who's in you know, the natural inbuilt biases
about it. I just think that it's it's it's like,
so what will happen is one News will have their
poll and they'll pretend it's the only poll, and yet
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there'll be another poll the week before which completely contradicts it.
But they go on and they try to generate news
off one pole, whether plus or minus margin ever of
three percent. So now my bet is it's bollocks.
Speaker 5 (21:52):
But I actually take Mary's point. Regardless it's being reported on,
it's in the media, and therefore it does.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Slow news week.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Well, actually it was a particularly a challenging week for Luxon,
Like it wasn't his best work, but.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
He's having these but challenging communication a challenge.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
But whether you like the guy or not, it's been
a challenging time. Like, like, they've pretty much been pissing
people off for the last two years because they've had
to deliver so much bad news. You know that they're
kind of it. They are they are in a very
difficult position. And whoever, because the country is in a
difficult position, so whoever was in there, they'd be dealing
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with the same problems. And you know, I mean, all
the optics are bad, but all the figures are good,
like they are making progress.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
So the interesting thing what do you want?
Speaker 4 (22:45):
Do you want someone in there where it's We've had
a popularity contest that didn't work.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I still see what's his name, I've forgotten his name,
all of his hipkins. I keep on wanting to say Hitchins,
because there was a Christopher Hitchins. He still reminds me
of the artist standing back, going, oh, look at how
these guys haven't rebuilt their house. I've bent down. But
that's just my personal view on it. But the other
comment that is going to be a prime minister anyway,
so it'll be fun. The interesting point that was made
(23:14):
is on Heather Show, people are saying, well, if things
go really badly with the war, that's going to really
affect New Zealand and the government's going to pay the
price for that. Earlier on Joe said that the voter
was quite smart. But if the voter's going to blame
the existing government for stuff outside its control. Then the
voters are not that smart.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But it won't be the voter. It will start with
the media. That's where it will start. So if the
media blame the government, the voter will blame the government.
Oh hot take in the media, which is what you
were saying five minutes ago.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Well, I did have a crack at beneit at Collins on.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
His So it's all about the dialogue.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Hey, let's move on to fun things, shall we. So
Dave Rennie has been made the new coach. I know,
you know this is it's not a sports show, but
it's a big deal that the All Blacks transcend, you know,
so many different right through New Zealand society. I will
give my hot take on that was I've sort of
generally lost interest in the All Blacks except for the
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Northern Hemisphere tour. But now with Dave Rennie in there,
Jamie Joseph, I would have been just as happy. I
don't know, I just since there's this earthiness that's the
and the tour. I mean, he's been through the school
of hard knocks. They're off to South Africa. I'm going
to be absolutely glued to the All Blacks prospects this
year and an old school tour of South Africa is
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going to be great fun. I'm not sure, are you?
And what do you reckon? Joe? We'll get to start
with you.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Ah.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Look, I'm a bit of a fair weather fan. It's
fair to but you know, I think he's got a
strong track record, you know, building tough cultures, you know.
But I'd say there's clearly some cultural issues in terms
of leadership, in terms of consistency, you know, with with
the all blacks, and I think that's what you want
someone to take a step back and not be afraid
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to make the changes that are required.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Yeah, what do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Well, I saw a great piece on spin Off and
we're allowed to mention them on saying that he was
going to succeed because he had a grumpy face and
that all other great New Zealand all black coaches have
been just as grumpy, and if you actually look at
them all side by side, it's the grumpy ones that
do well.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
So Actually, because Steve Hansen was a fairly grumpy Ian,
Foster was unlucky not to do slightly better. And he's
he seemed to be the sort of Smiley, most amenable.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Guy Graham, Henry Graham, Henry Grumpy.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
So there is some maybe there are some logics.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
But look, I think it's you know now that they
finally made the decision. And I think we were still
shocked when Scott Robertson left, you know, it was was dumped,
not left of his own volition. And of course, you know,
you would have assumed that after seven victories with the Crusaders,
he had it all. You know, he had a long
ten ten you're ahead of them, and yet now David
Renni's in charge. So but yeah, do you remember getting
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up Do you ever get up in the middle of
the night when you were for the you know, the
tour of South Africa and watching them play trans Vale
and Pretoria and.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Well I was almost getting up and listening to it
on the wireless, but not quite.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Did you ever get up and watch sport in the
middle of the night, Jones?
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Sometimes for the Olympics or something?
Speaker 6 (26:26):
Really?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, gosh, the whole days before video before when did
video come around?
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Look, let's be let's where we're so very old.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Let's not date ourselves too quickly, Okay, right, tell you what,
Let's come back and talk about David Seymour wanting us
to become New Zealand, to become the cannabis powerhouse much
and get a nice Suvinyon blanc and a nice medicinal
cannabis all courtesy of New Zealand were back in just
the tickets twenty three and a half minutes to four.
Yes News Talk said, be the panel today with Murray
(26:54):
Crane and Joe McCarroll. Now this is I surprised how
much cannabis we've exported. There's a Ministry of Health paper
shows that we released we exported more than a ton
of cannabis flower in twenty twenty four and David Seymour
believes New Zealand could become a high value powerhouse for
exporting medicinal cannabis. I almost wonder whether we should be
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exporting the you know, the stuff that just gets you
high as well to places where it's legal. But just
a positive news export story. Why wouldn't you find this
New Zealand green beef coming from New Zealand? What do
you think? Joe Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:28):
I thought Seymour's you know, every three years he reverts
to sounding relatively sane. Prior to the election because yeah, completely,
I think that would you know, if this could be
an export crop, not just medicinal cannabis, but also hemp
is a fiber. You know, I think there's a real
potential there, but I would say we would surely be
very far behind a lot of other countries if this
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is going to be an export positive littlelone an export boom.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Well, it was for medicinal cannabis, so a couple of
years three years ago it was one hundred and eighty
four point three kilograms, and before that was only forty
nine kilograms, which is basically enough. That's sort of what
they probably see in someone's luggage they're coming.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
What do they expect exporting? Is it the oil or well?
Speaker 3 (28:12):
I just see it's more than a time of cannabis flower.
I'm not sure if it's Yeah, it's it's a funny one,
doesn't it. It's a medicinal cannabis export. But it looks
like it's exported and it's sort of you know, natural state.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
And where's it going to?
Speaker 3 (28:25):
I don't know, but obviously in places that want to
utilize it, I think it's bigger. The biggest markets are Australia,
Portugal and Uruguay. So yeah, anyway, drugs and they yes, anyway, It's.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
Probably quite a good way to up the school lunch consumption, though.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Given what's one cheers.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
I know a friend of mine works in pharmacy, and
he was visiting a medicinal cannabis growth factory or a
place that they're growing, and he has to have a
special note because when he leaves it, he smells so
strongly of cannabis that if he's stops, if you stopped
by the police, he has to have a special I
work in the medicinal cannabis.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
How do you get one of those?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I couldn't even tell you what I mean. I know
it smoked cannabis smells like from It's probably one of
those smells from decades ago. I don't know what raur.
I couldn't tell you if I recognized what rawal cannabis
would smell like.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
But I can imagine it'd be very pungent.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
I think the oil is in that same smell that
you might remember from the seventies ten.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Speak for yourself. God, hell, but how do you think
I am? Crikey? Anyway? Hey, Look, by the way, I
was quite surprised to see this big change to trade
me that they were removing success fees for casual sellers,
and apparently with this one marketing expertis said it's probably
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a response to the growing power of Facebook marketplace. I
must say, I haven't remember when Facebook was in it. Sorry,
trade me was in its heyday. It seemed just about
everyone was on trade me every other day looking for
a Still I've been looking for a couple of things
on trade me, not too seriously, but I think Sam
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Morgan was the one who sold out. I mean, what
did he sell it for? How many hundred million did
he sell it for? I think the person who's done
the best out of trade me and will never be
better does Sam Morgan probably when he sold it for
many hundreds of millions success fee. Well.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Actually, I've been looking at it recently because I want
to buy some outdoor furniture and I haven't looked at
trade for a long time, and I was quite struck.
You know, it used to be people selling things that
didn't need it whatever, and now it just seems like
it's all these kind of professional sellers who are selling
like a you know, and.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
They get charged success fees.
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I believe, but you know.
Speaker 5 (30:44):
They're just selling things that they've brought in and imported themselves.
It's like it's like a version of Temu that you
bought on Timo, do you know what I mean? Like
you're just getting these cheap because it probably is. Yeah,
And I mean I wouldn't touch Facebook marketplace. You know,
when I've tried to give something away we didn't need,
you know, it's just oh, the time wasting and the
scams and the the is it still available instant message?
(31:06):
You know, I'm just I don't want to go near
I to try.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
We tried it with some ski gear or something that
was a complete waste of time, and I just thought, well,
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
But what I hope with that successful thing is people
might start selling things they don't need anymore on trade me,
because that's where it's sort of useful, not just.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Here's the other That's how the marketplace started, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Here's the other thing. A lot of the conversations I've
had just on talkback around a few people are looking
for secondhand things. Is just the charity shop thing, the
hospice shops and the different there's so many different charity shops.
And I know people who who say, you can get
some amazing stuff at charity shops, and that if they'd know,
and they wouldn't have gone and got their silverware from
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you know, wherever they got it from the cutlery, plates, pots, pans,
you know, deck, furniture, furniture. It's some of those big
charity stores have an amazing range of stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Sure, And I think the other thing with trade me
is that people's buying habits have changed. There's not as
much stuff out there that people can actually resell because
they're buying crap the whole time.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
So it's stuff off.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Team and buying stuff off Sheine and buying stuff off Amazon.
Like it's not like you're holding onto it for ten
years and then you're going, oh, well now I'm going
to resell it or give it someone else. Like we're not.
We don't buy things to last a lifetime anymore. So,
So over time, op shops, secondhand stores, second marketplaces like
(32:32):
trade me are going to struggle to get good product.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Because already, you know, people in that space have said publicly,
you know, people are bringing in these clothes and they're
just you know, they're ragged. You know, they can't be
washed the.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
What a tragedy that we buy. I mean, look, I
think you think to our parents generation in terms of
kitchen appliances that lasted forever. I mean you can still
buy things that will you know, have a bit of longevity.
But I mean, do you buy for longevity, Joe, when
you buy on.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Price, absolutely buy for longevity. And I buy so much
less than I used to. And I'm very interested when
I think this is the second hand option because I
just do not want more stuff. I find that thing
with you know, whenever you you know, you see like
a skip out on the road and it's just full
of things going to landfill, and I just think that's obscene.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
Yeah, it's funny. When I did the show with Tim Roxbury,
he took great amusement at the fact I bought a
couple of things through. There's a French brand of shoes
or Italian called Mefisto, and I bought it because I
bought them when we're over the years ago and I thought, God,
they're the best. But by the time duty kicked in,
I'm not going to tell you. There was a pair
of sort of hiking type, you know, durable sandals sort
(33:45):
of for summer, and I made the mistake of telling
Tim how much it had ended up costing me, which
was ridiculous, and he was like, oh, Viva was wearing
as so many hundred dollars pairs of sandals, but you
know what that is six years ago and they barely
look that like they've been broken coss per twenty years.
Tell me going to be able to say, Tim, how
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many pairs of channels you've been They're still going you know,
quality quality, it's.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Worse quality, and it's something that you can pass on.
You know. That seems to me it's going to be
cheaper for you in the long run.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
And better for the planet.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
I think there was some tradement. Somebody said that trade
me had a massive crackdown on sell us the point
that if you sell more than a certain amount, they
label your account as in trade instead of a casual seller.
So there's still you know, some issues around people getting
charged when they're probably resenting that no no, no.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Well also I think they've you have to use the
payment system PEN now, which means that is a well,
there's a lot of benefits that I think because it's
an instant payment, but also if there is a scam.
You have got some comeback. I mean I think I
have lost count of the number of people I know
who've been scammed on you know, buying or selling and
(34:58):
in trade me sometimes but definitely on Facebook marketplace. Hey.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
By the way, this other story just to touch on
before the break, there would have been a time when
this would have really got quite a lot of attention.
But Bunning's using facial recognition recognition to fight retail crime.
They're saying also threatening behavior towards retail workers, et cetera,
et cetera. So they're bringing in facial recognition technology. All
(35:22):
I can think of is good on them. It's their
business if people are coming in and stealing stuff, if
they're using facial recognition, I mean, as long as they
don't have someone come up to me because they recognize
me and say, have you managed to find that screwdriver
you were looking for? But I mean, maybe I don't
know what. It's not particularly controversial.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Is it, Joe. Well, I mean, I'm kind of I
actually completely support this because the level of retail crime
I am seeing just walking around is egregious, and as
someone who has to pay for that by the prices
going up for me. But at the same time it
(35:59):
is a as you It will come to the point
where you will walk in and they will say, hey,
can we know your front door needs painting at your
dress which we know, oh blimey, But I just think
you just I mean I was at the supermarket the
other day and I just saw someone walk out and
you just think the poor stuff.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
I don't mind being supermarkets are already trialing it though
they have been for quite some time, so I don't
think it's new.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I love the one where they reckon. I've seen it
a year or two ago, and some places in London
supermarkets you literally just go around, pop things in your
trolley and just walk out and it knows exactly what
you've had you here already, can you yeah?
Speaker 5 (36:38):
Last years?
Speaker 6 (36:40):
Really?
Speaker 3 (36:40):
Yeah, that sounds like a flash super market?
Speaker 6 (36:43):
Was that.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Probably something? Actually?
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Do you have to worry about shoplifting? Probably not? I
mean work and you're still without being noticed.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
I know we've had about two things. This isn't a
challenge to anyone, but I think we've had about two
things taken in the last twenty seven years, so.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Okay, yeah, that's because there's it's a high service at
that Crane Brothers. You walk in and it's like hello, Yeah, anyway, hey, look,
we'll be back in just a moment. This is the
panel with Murray Crane, founder of Crane Brothers, and Joe
McCall she's editor of New Zealand Garden and Magazine. But
Gardener Magazine. Don't forget to go get your March issue.
It's harvest season, so go and get your issue of
(37:20):
New Zealand Garden Magazine. Will back in just the tickets
ten to four News Talk z B the last little
bite of the cherry on on our panel with Murray
Crane and Joe McCarroll. If One kicks off in Melbourne
this weekend. Totally different specs, well, totally new new specs
for the cars and with the engine and the battery
and the balancing of power and all that sort of stuff.
(37:43):
I think IF One is an amazing product, and I've
been drawn into it by the Netflix series and now
and we've got Liam Lawson in there as well, so
I'll be right into it. Joe, I am.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
Yeah, you know, I wouldn't say it was a super fan,
but yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see what
happens in Melbourne though, new cars, new regulations, new batteries
like and more overtaking and more competitive. I mean, I
feel like Max for staff and has just won every
single one for my natural He didn't win the last one,
but you know you want there to be a race.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah. Also, I've got Cadillac in, you know, which is
an interesting brand to sort of suddenly their Yanks have arrived.
Murray you into the F one and if you've got
high hopes for Liam Lawson.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Very much into it, always have high hopes for Lamb.
I think he has had a fairly torrid time there,
but he's survived, he's driven to survive. Yeah, I think
he could have a good year this year. Car looks
pretty competitive and he's got a new I think his
new team behind him.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
His teammate looks like he's pretty good too.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Yeah. Well, he has been in put his practice, put
in some good hasn't put it on the wall yet,
so no, he might pull back a bit after that.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Do you have a particular car brand that you'd like
to see do well.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
I'm quite decided about Aldi coming and I think that
they could do really well. I think it'll probably take
a couple of years. But I think they've got the
chops to be a competitor top.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
I like the fact I liked the guys at MacLaren,
like the drivers seem like, you know, interesting personality. They
can all string the thing about f one as well.
They're all fluent, intelligent, you know, young young people. And
when they do an interview afterwards, it's not like all
the team Plode will doing a single anyone out. They
sometimes have a bit of a bitch about things. They
(39:36):
wear their hearts on their sleeves, they sat something intellassionate,
you know.
Speaker 5 (39:39):
I actually think that is the drive to survive effect though,
because they have to be able to not just drive
the car but also front the sport.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
And I think it's probably the most brutal and ruthless
process to become an IF one driver. And if you
look at the difference between the top drivers and the
middle of the pack in terms of time, I mean
we're talking milliseconds, I know.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
And perhaps I think you were saying in the break
they have actually they limit that. That's not going to
mean that car isn't going to be quite as fast
it might be. Yeah, And the whole management of the
fuel versus it's all it's all green too. I think
all the fuels are, but their their sort of sustainable
fuels as well, so you know, if.
Speaker 5 (40:30):
One's necessarily green, but greener the.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Tires washing green. Hey thanks guys, nice to see you.
Joe McCarroll, Murray Crane. We'll be back with the One
Roof radio show. Nicole Lewis is with us, talking about
you know well. You'll find out for.
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