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Speaker 4 (02:46):
Tim? My good? Thanks?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Happy Happy Easter.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I guess happy Easter. And I think you can actually
say it from the week before Easter weekend, well really yeah,
right out till the Sunday.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
It's a seasonal thing.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Yeah, it's just it's the time of year. It's Easter now.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Because you've got three three.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Little ones, yeah, six, four and two.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Are you Are you one of those sort of insufferable
who just does everything perfectly and you've been baking hot
cross buns and putting the treats out and you're acres
of chocolate and it's already it's already underway or or no,
but what I do is I.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Just buy a lot of random stuff. But I don't bake.
I don't bake a lot of stuff myself. I buy
the hot Cross.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Have you seen how much even the most basic hot
cross buns? I actually I can't bring you in you
because I haven't introduced your second guess, but I was.
I sometimes bake my own hot Cross buns and we
didn't this year, but my wife bought some from a
particular place and I was just surprised how.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Much they would have you well, especially the bougie ones.
I've been I've been getting into the cherry and dark
chocolate ones and they're they're getting up there.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, if it's gonna if it's gonna be expensive, at
better be bougie anyway, and joining me. I'm not sure
if he's into the hot Cross buns, but he is
Auckland Council for Why takerty Auckland Council law? Should I say?
And Shane Henderson get a Shane here?
Speaker 5 (04:00):
You going get a fantastic How are you good?
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Good? Good? So what's up at the council these days?
You are? You know things rock and rolling, have a
good time.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
It's so busy, man, I wouldn't call it a good time.
It's an important time. We're dealing with fuel crisis stuff
and public transport stuff all that.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Oh please please, now I bang on about this. In fact,
I think it's going to be my weekly mention because
for someone who doesn't really use public transport locks, they're
going to drive my kids from practice to ballet and
all that sort of stuff. I'm really aching for the
CRL to open because it's going to feel like Auckland's
Auckland's finally come of age and grown up. Tell us
when's it going to happen.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
We don't know yet. It's not announced it be sometime
back end of this year, and I don't have any
more goss. I'm afraid. I wish I could.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Oh that's quite good though. Back end of this year.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I think that I was hoping he might say it
could be a couple of months. Who knows, because the
fuel crisis. I would wonder, would you hear any whisper
if Central Government were saying, listen, you guys, I've seen
you driving through the tunnel. I've seen John Campbell go
through for a check ride. If he's been through, why
can't the rest of Auckland. Is there a bit of
pressure on these things.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Well, I suppose government would really keen to get it open,
especially before the election. I say, but yeah, we've got
a test test, test, test, test, so do that and
then we've got it sort of.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, but beyond that, you don't know how the testing's going.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
It's going okay, it's going okay, we're finding out stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I get the feeling, you do you feel he's being
a bit evasive there, matility.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah, it feels like he knows more what he's letting on.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
I'm a politician.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yeah that was said alone. You know, you said a
lot and bugger all at the same time. Anyway, congratulations
as a compliment, thank you. Okay, Shane's going home now,
he's happy. Dropped done. Now, look, let's well, let's get
into the first story of the day. So, Iran has
shot down a plane. I think the word is that
we're up to two planes now that there's a second.
(05:48):
They're claiming they've shot down a second US warplane. It's so,
but it's an evolving story. Right now, an a ten
combat plane. Iran is offering a reward for one of
the missing crew members from the f fighting Fighter fifteen
fighter jet. Well, I don't know. I means serious stuff,
isn't it, Matilda.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Yeah, it feels like maybe the narrative around it's going
to be simple. It's a bit of a bish bash
bosh from the US. You know, they've got dominance, but
it just it feels like it's just going to get worse,
especially with the missing pilot. Is the one missing pilot?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
I'm not sure. I'm still trying to catch up with
that some of that news now I might get my project.
It's a bit of an evolving situation as to who's missing,
but they are and there's a rule. I think Iran's
offered a lot of money for anyone who can find
the pilot. Yeah, it's bad news, very bad news, I
would suggest for Trump and his administration, because you know,
we're going from the president who is going to be
the president of peace, no more chaos in the Middle East,
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and now we've got a plane shot down. He said that,
you know, he said, this is the sort of thing thing.
It's not going to affect his attitude to negotiations. I'm
not so sure, Shane, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Yeah, I mean Trump the other day came out and said, look, oh,
we're getting near the end of all of this. We've
almost sorted the missions. Well it seems like they haven't.
It seems like it's a lot harder than he was thinking,
which is no surprise to a lot of people. But yeah,
it's not easy all of this, and I don't think
it's going to be done anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
But the other interesting to see if they can get
this pilot out, because I mean, there's a huge amount
of pressure. I would sign the states within the administration
that they get them out. There are some amazing stories
of them xfiltrating. I think pilots have been shot down,
even in fact books written about some of the amazing
escapes that have been made. I sort of do pray
that Iran don't get their hands on this guy, because
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not so much what they're going to do to them.
I don't know just what it's going to mean for
the conflict, but I don't know. I just can't help
but think that I haven't been relying on the White
House to be factual about anything we've got. Hegseth saying
that you know they've got no ability to shoot down
our planes. It's like, well, be interesting to see his
next press conference about that. Yeah, what do you think
you've got anything? There's not much we can really say
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about it. It's just there's one confirmed dead. Sorry, now,
this is just coming through one rescued, and we're still
looking for the other one and potentially too.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Well. I think it's in the back of all of
our minds. What are they going to do to them
when they find them. I think that's the.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Scary part for me, I think, to be honest, I don't.
I think the biggest thing to is parade them around
to the embarrassment of the United States. I don't think
they're actually going to I don't think they're going to
hurt I'd be surprised if they did, because any sort
of live captive like that is worth a huge amount
and propaganda value for Iran. So, but whatever it's it's
(08:36):
obviously very stressful for everyone involved. Mind you, Let's just
point out that, you know, the first strike that that
America made killed one hundred and thirty five school girls,
so we've already been exposed to tragedy.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
In this refect.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Now it's a strange switch of topic on this. On
this on the side of things, are you guys into
the NASA mission with Artemis two heading around the Moon,
with the goal eventually that we're going to land people
on the Moon. I to Claire my hand, I love
I just love it. I'd love the quest for the
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our ability human beings that we've managed to build these
machines that can fly around the other side of the moon. Matilda,
where do you reckon?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
It's so exciting, it really is. Well, I think that
I think they're halfway there, aren't they it's the it's
the latest I got that they're they're halfway there. They've
they've taken this beautiful photo of the Earth. So it
is really exciting. But because we live in this world
of quick information, it almost feels like it's not as
exciting as it should be because people are like, great,
(09:41):
they're halfway to the moon. Next you know, there's there's
you know, you scroll past, and then there's all these
other exciting things happening. Like it feels as if this
should be a bigger deal, and it possibly was back
in you know, sixty eight or whenever it was, it
was huge. The modern world day, the modern world, there's
there's so many things happening all at once.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
What do you Reckon Shane.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
Oh, this is awesome. I love space stuff. It's one
of my favorite things. And I actually think it's really
cool topic change because they actually asked the person that
was running this mission and say, look what about all
the division back home and all this kind of stuff.
What is sort of message is a send? And he said, well,
I think it should be unifying when you look back
on Earth. We're all one people at the end of
the day. And that was that sort of their mission,
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which is quite cool.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I like the There was a video which has been
shared on a few of the news sites of a
people on a commercial flight and they're actually quite a
long way away from obviously from Cape Canaveral because you
wouldn't want to be anywhere near it, but in the
distance the woman, who I think it's a woman who's
filming it. She's shooting out of the window with her
phone and there's a flash on the ground from the
(10:46):
rocket and she films the whole takeoff of the rocket
and the distance heading up towards the Moon, and it's
quite surreal, you know, just the here you are on
a planet. What's that over there? On that's Oh, it's right,
they're heading off to the moon.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
We just go to the other side of the country.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I mean, I am going to tie it. And because
I look at you look at the what science and
modern engineering and innovation and invention can do. And here
we have this a rocket that's ninety eight meters tall.
It's taller than the Statue of Liberty ninety eight meters.
And you see the engines and just the nature of
(11:23):
the beast, the machine that blasts off with the millions
of pounds of propulsion, and you think, gosh, look at this,
this is human kind and it's most sort of inspiring.
And then you look at the complete clown they've got
in the White House, and I cannot reconcile it to
here's this magnificence of technology and here's this cool aid
(11:44):
drinking clown of a group of muppets running the show
at the moment. You don't need to comment on that, really,
but it is an interesting Sorry you were going to no, no,
I was.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Just going to say, I wonder what it's going to
mean for the future, you know, because there's been talk
about heading up there and you know, doing a bit
of mining. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, And it just makes
me think, like, are we going to just head on
over there and mark that one up to well, I think.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
The Moon itself. I mean, it's not bristling with life
or anything.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
We're going to and it feels it feels as though
it's kind of the start of you know, maybe space
is going to turn into the oil and shipping.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Actually, channels Google about how much junk has been left
on the Moon from the mission and including poohs and
wheeze and everything. They left everything. Apparently there's a bit
of junk, you know, a bit of rubbish there.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
It's humans.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
But it's funny. You don't think of that thing. All
you think of is when Neil Armstrong and his colleagues
landed and took them walk that they went down and
then took off and came back home. But they had
to leave something. In fact, they left the moon buggies
are behind.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Surely it should be a pack and pack out sort of,
no situation ever.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Packed out, that's it because they needed you only had
a certain amount of propulsion to get back off again.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
It's incredible.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
What about the I think there are those who say
all that we've been to the moon, you know why
by the going back, But I do love. I love
the idea of us going back and being able to Actually,
I think it's I'm curious about them establishing a base
and everything, But what do you think about the fact, well,
we did that in the sixties or whatever, Why are
we doing it again? Apart from wanting to capture it
(13:18):
in H capture in HD.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Well, motivation is super interesting, right. So they've said, look,
this is the first step, and we want to get
back on the Moon and then go to Mars. And
apparently even Trump is putting the pressure on saying, look,
I'm out by twenty twenty nine. Can you get to
Mars before that please? So we've got China as well
saying look, we want to go up there too, So.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
He might be diverting some of the budget to building
some making some more missiles, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
It's my guess it's a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
I'm also planned for Mars. Are they going to mind
matt too? We just got a mine and more.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I mean, I must say that when Elon Musk talks about, look,
we could make Mars into a habitable planet, I'm thinking,
if you could make Mars habitable, then we've obviously got
the technology to improve life here where we already are habitable.
I'm thinking, use that inspiration here and then we will
be winning just to Earth. Yeah, you don't need to
(14:08):
do mass Yes, indeed, actually make that radio show. You
know they do the nine Months to Mars and all
that sort of thing would actually become real, wouldn't it
They the astronauts on that. Anyway, Look, it's nice. It's
nice to think about something that's more inspiring than the
fact that planes and stuff and conflicts are still. Oh,
we didn't even talk about the fuel shortage, did we?
Were we going to talk about the fuel ship?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
Oh don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Surely we've got We've got We've got a counselor in
the room.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Look, we can come back to it.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
We can come back to it later on. I've probably
got that down later, and I do have it down
later on the list. Tell you what, I'll give a
cup of tea, a lie down and just to regroup,
and we'll be back in just a moment to talk
about booze and Easter. It's twenty one past three. Matilda
Green and Shane Henderson are my guests on the panel
back in the miny. Yes, welcome back, my guests, Matilda
(14:56):
Green and Shane Henderson and guys, look this easter alcohol
trading changes, it's got to be sort of I would
say it's on. It's one of those inconsequential stories which
has been basically sweeping up a bit of dirty sort
of inconsistency in the whole alcohol trading laws. There are
some who don't like it because you know they're not
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fans of alcohol. But you used, you know, the question
over whether you have to have to have a substantial meal,
and as a bowl of chips are substantial meal, we
don't have to worry about that now, do we shame?
Speaker 5 (15:25):
No, we don't. And do you order one chips and
then just drink all day? What's the plan there? So
you know it was total mess the previously.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It sounds like a council meeting a bowl of chips
and around please, I'm just kidding. I have no idea.
It just sounds like that. Do you ever have a
tiple around the council table? No?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
No, no, no, we don't.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
You said that in a way that you did like,
don't ask me that because we do it all the time.
You went with the seeds.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
You said it with a smile, not even on a Friday.
Speaker 5 (15:52):
I wish social media these days photos phones come out, you.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Know, you can't do that at Las Aveno.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Yeah that's the old days. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
What do you think, Matilda?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
Yeah, I mean I think they were confusing rules around Yeah,
what even constitutes a substantial meal? Who polices it? Do
you have to like do they have to come and
check the crumbs around your mouth to make sure you
need to do it? Yeah? Exactly did you eat it?
Or or did you just order it and drink you?
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Because I know people for whom bowl of fries is
literally what they would have. And we have a get
together a few people at ZB once a month and
one of our one of our guys who comes along.
He has an interesting taste in food, doesn't like it
very much, so a full meal would be the barest minimum.
Really yeah, so he.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Bullets, Yeah something like that.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
What about the and look, I don't ever think we're
going to go near No, no, no, I don't believe.
I don't believe what I just said. I don't think
it will ever happen in my lifetime anyway that we're
going to overhaul the trading hours, you know how we're
closed on Good Friday and east to Sunday. And it's
not because of the religious side, because some people could argue, look,
we shouldn't have religion telling us when we can and
(17:00):
can't open our shops. But I just don't think that
the public's attitude appetite would be for a change in
that which there isn't.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
It just feels like no one's really bothered about it.
And and I also think we would lose something culturally
because then everything's just open all the time, you know,
there's no moment to it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
And zat morning, Good Friday, Easter, Christmas. There's probably another
one I'm missing, is it?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
That.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I quite liked it. I actually had to think ahead
and plan a couple of meals and it got me
actually getting more organized because I thought, oh, don't count
on being Isn't that ridiculous? I thought, oh, I won't
be able to go to the shops on Friday. Think ahead,
think think.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Expanding your cooking horizons.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Okay, lot parliaments, let's put that one behind Parliament's reshuffle.
So the thing, the headline one that stands out to
me is that it seems Chris Bush it's been given
the role of Attorney general. That's a big deal, right,
But he's been he's lost the role of campaign chair
for and it does feel that he has been slightly
(18:03):
shuffled to the side, maybe, if not down or not.
I'm not sure. What's your take on it, Shane. Let's
get your hot take on the cabinet Marie shuffle. Big
deal or no?
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Or what?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Or yeah? Pretty big deal? I don't well, I don't know.
He may or may not be finished. That's one element.
But the other element is now you've got an Auckland
or his campaign chair. So I'm thinking, are the National
cityan Yeah? Are they starting to worry about the Auckland
vote because they're getting squeezed from ACT on one side,
Labor and the Greens and the suburbs and the city center.
So maybe it's to shore up their own vote as well.
(18:35):
So yes, it's an interesting time.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
What do you reckon, Matilda? I know you are self
confessed as not being a political junkie. I won't throw
you on. I won't throw you in front of a
bus and say, look, you've got a really hot take
on this.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
Yeah, tell yeah, tell us what every single politician does
in every role. I would absolutely close close. But but
I do think it's interesting around what kind of story
is lux In trying to tell. It feels like he's
trying to be proactive. He's trying to tell voters, look
at us, we've got our best foot forward coming up
to the election. He's responding to voters not really loving
(19:10):
National at the moment. What story is he trying to tell?
I would never clue from actually from who he's but
where I would never clue.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
But I think the interesting thing is these as someone
who's not right within the beltway, is there anything that
resonates with you out of it? Or do you just
see the cabinet reshuffling and you go next?
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I go next.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
See that's probably not bad news for National. So he's
done a reshuffle because all the boffins in the media
sometimes we have a party around these things. Or but
there's a bit of a circus. Oh what's it meaning?
You know, Chris Bishop's no longer a campaign chair. I
mean he's put Simeon Brown in there. And you're right,
he's an Auckland Auckland MP.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yeah. I mean, do you ablee New Zealander who is
not politically savvy? People coming in and out of cabinet
doesn't really make a huge difference.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
I think, yeah, I think so too.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Actually, that's interesting reflect on I'm quite glad you've said
that because you know, a lot of the time we
can't think, oh what does this mean for christ You know,
is this a bad look for like I thought. To
be honest, I haven't been buying into all this. You know,
one pole comes out and we've got people chasing Luxon
through the airport for a comment, and I haven't really
thought too much about it. But funnily enough, the thought
of when I heard that Bishop had been pushed, I
(20:26):
don't know, maybe it is a good move to have
Simion Brown in there, but I did sort of think
that maybe it looked a little bit negative for Luxe
and to be pushing aside someone who was rumored to
be have been behind questions of a luction's leadership. But
as you say, Matilda, next.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I just don't think it will stay.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, Look, moving on to another side of the political coin.
This is an interesting one because the headline in itself
and then you ever think about it. So the Green
Party has been defending its decision not to select a
former sex worker as a candidate and says it has
nothing to do with her background. Now I heard this
(21:04):
on here, so I think it was at the time
when sex worker was being considered, and it sounds like
an exciting headline to think all the greens are an
interesting collection of people. But so the sex Worker Advocacy
group fired up Stiletto's great name. Chairperson Bianca Bieb was
not selected and they've claimed that the vetting process fixated
(21:28):
on her former job with a bunch of questions. So
after the initial interview, there was an email with twenty
eight questions it to be answered in twenty one of
them related to sex work, and a subsequent interview with
the committee that was a big description. But anyway, what
do you make of it, Shane, I.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
Mean, you've got to take Madame and Davidson at her word. Right.
She's been really clear saying, look, the candidate's essentially not
up to it and that's why we didn't select her.
That's what they said. So well, yeah, we can't really
dispute that we're not in the room.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
No, what do you reckon on? Matilda not into politics
as all? She's just going how I don't ask, mate.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
No, but I do think because Mudima has seed. You know,
she wasn't a right person for the job and sex
work wasn't a part of it. But I mean twenty
one out of twenty eight questions based around sex work,
that to me says that that is actually quite a
major part of it.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
It does sound that, you know what. I reminded myself though,
because while everyone goes in cause everyone loves to look
at the Greens, if you don't like the Greens, and
I'm not a massive fan of the Greens, it's easier
to jump on the bandwagon and go look at the
weird collection of people they're hiring. But to be fair,
I couldn't care less if someone's been a sex worker
or whatever if they're a good MP. And it's worth
remembering the story of was it Georgina Bayer who was
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transgender and had been a sex worker and successfully became
the mayor of Carterton and then subsequently an MP. So
as long as you're up for the job, I don't
think it actually I don't think it really matters. It's
just a fun headline for the political buffins to go
look at the Greens. Yeah, what do you reckon all
judging someone?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Yeah? Well, that's the thing. I think most people wouldn't
mind either, because I mean they would be judging them
on hopefully how well they can do the job. But yeah,
it's look, maybe she just wasn't the right person.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Look, I'm happy to go along with that because I
reckon if she had been the right person. I think
if any party was going to select someone with her background,
then the Green Party be top of the list. I would.
I mean, it's legal, it's just got a certain stigma
attached to it. But you know, really who cares.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
What do you think? Shane, I've just been reflecting on
the amount of questions there and just as yeah, it's
a lot, it is a lot, but we're looking at
you know, the past five ten years there's been debarcles
from every party with selection issues and candidates that it
turns out there went up to it. So I've heard that,
you know, every party is looking at their vetting processes
and trying to get it all tightened up. So that
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might be an explanation for those questions of sort of,
look we need to know do we need to know
something about you?
Speaker 2 (24:05):
And that's normal if you think that's going to be
an achilles heel yeah, But to be honest, if you
were I reckon, if you were in the Select committee,
and you realize we've asked twenty one questions about sex works,
Let's ask at least another twenty five. Even if we
don't care, Let's just ask twenty five on something else.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Bring down the percentage.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Let's ask about who being a vegetarian or something allegedly
or whatever? Is any by the way, is anyone fitget
her in these days as opposed to being vegan or not?
It just seems a halfway house now, right, random thought,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:35):
It does that you're either vegan you eat meat, but
I like even vegans. I feel like that's sort of
gone a little bit quiet recently.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
The reason I actually mentioned it this is I often
operate in a stream of consciousness whatever pops into my head.
As my audience, I know, it's like it's starting to
talk about that now. But I bought some yogurt, yogurt, yogurt, yogurt.
I don't know yogurt. I thank you. Oh my daughter said,
why are you calling yogur?
Speaker 4 (24:59):
And I'm like, I don't know, quite British, I think
to call it your.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
I'm going to have some yoga. You're lovely, And I
noticed that the brand I looked at it says safe
for vegetarians and immediately thought, what do you mean there's
no milk in this? And I thought, oh no, no, no, no, no,
no vegetarian, not vegan. And I suddenly realized I hadn't
seen reference to vegetarianism much at all. It's either, you know,
do you eat the whole cow? Or are you're a vegan?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Why would anybody think there would be me and yogurt?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
No, no milk? Sorry, no, I thought when they said vegetarian, no,
I know.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
But I mean, like, why would they advertise it it's
safe for vegetarians yoga because no one's going to think,
doesn't He's.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Trying to fool the vegans as well. Maybe the marketing
vegan will Barton go it's vegetarian free. Oh no, that's right,
not quite okay. Hey, now we are back to the
fuel crisis talk. By the way, so some states in
Australia are making public transport free and look, what do
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you guys think about the whole Look, we've got a
I'm not thinking about it too much to be honest anymore.
I just fill up weekly rather than when I get
too empty, because it's less painful. So I am doing something.
But what do you guys think about, you know, whether
there should be subsidies or handouts or free public transport,
Because I'll give you my take is that personal choice
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looks after it. If you're finding it too expensive to
get in your car, you'll hop on a bus. What
do you think, Matilda, Oh.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I think that's kind of good in theory. But if
we're trying to get people, it's a.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Very polite way of saying, God, Tim, you're full of it.
Here's how it is. They're so nice.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I don't We were just talking about it before the show.
Is that, you know, people have really busy, complicated lives
and they need a transport system that is super reliable
and goes to where they need it to go. You know.
So if we're expecting people's behavior to change, then it
has to be because we've had a pretty convenient life
with cars and Auckland, especially for a long time. So
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if we want people to use it, it has to
be reliable and it has to be simple. But if
you're running around after school with kids dropping them places
picking them up, I mean public transport can be really tricky.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
It's interesting my daughters now because I used to every
now and again if you know that had a late
night or something, Oh Dad, can you give us a
lift instead of us catching the bus? They know and
they just say, it's bus today, isn't it, Dad? But
that's so we still have certain things as a bit doubt.
I've got to drive them here and there. But when
we don't need to, they know it's bus time, which
is the slight change we've made. What about you, shame,
what's your take on all this?
Speaker 5 (27:38):
It's basically all I think about. So I could talk
about it all. Go quick quick, ause I can you
look obviously well obviously, in my opinion, I think it's
a really easy lever for the government to pull in
terms of cost of living action. Right. The thing that
I'm worried about is people will start to choose to
stay home and work from home more. That to me
is a real concern because like that, no, the economic
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development of the city is really impacted. People aren't buying
their sushi and their coffee, et cetera, et cetera. Everyone
gets dragged down. When that becomes a solution.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah, actually there has been too much. I mean, you know,
the sort of like, oh, well, just work from home.
It's fantastic, as if it's as if there's no consequence
to the working from home, and you've just pointed out
a really significant consequence for commerce.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
So governments step up, help sort out public transport faares
in whichever way you want to be at half price
which worked before, or something like that.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Here's my suggestion. I don't even know if it's possible,
because I'm not at the business end of these things.
I would rather see if there was money going into
public transport. It's not to make it cheaper for people,
it would be to make more of it happen so
we can be so we actually could go. Guess what, girls,
there's a bus swinging past the place in ten minutes
that's going to go past your ballet school. Yep, we'll
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all hop on it together or something.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
And if you miss it, you're not stuffed because a
lot of places, you know, they're like every thirty minutes
or something, So if you miss one.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Okay, hands up. The smug people have got an ev hybrid.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
Okay, you're okay, I don't really drive him.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
That's the thing you have a hybrid and don't drive.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
I take the bus most of the time.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
Can I borrow it? He just said I can borrow
his hybrid on radio. I think Shane Anderson is going
to lend me as hybrid. Yeah, well, thank you, Shane.
It's so sweet. You can take my car.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Very welcome anything for you.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Hang on, how far do I have to come to
get that thing?
Speaker 5 (29:20):
I live Intitude, so that's a bit a bit fast.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
I'm sure there's a bus that goes there. I'll get
there tomorrow probably. Sorry. What have you got as a
plug in?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Or Yeah, it's a it's a it's a glie and
it's in the The electric is eighty k's, which is
good because that gives me the day. It's a new
Chinese brand hybrid, is it?
Speaker 2 (29:44):
What have you been sponsored? Being sponsored?
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I just got to a good little plug.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Really you did too well. I expect one as well. Actually,
I was chatting to a friend who's got who's got
some involvement in as in the directory in the director
level of transport companies and technology and things, and he
was saying that, you know, eventually the time is going
to come where we do do the were are going
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to have the driver list thing and how the future,
I'm not sure it's going to happen that quickly, to
be honest, but the evs and eventually that's going to
be the technology that people adopt as you upgrade to
a new car. I'm still sort of I think hybrid's
probably the way to go, but I'm not I'm not
sure where I'm going to end up going because New
Zealand's such a diverse geography that I can't imagine We're
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not going to be like some major, you know, city
in Europe or Asia where you know, having an ev
IS or shared ev you know, where you just literally
hail one up.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Well, maybe it's hybrid for now, and then hybrid is
just the gateway essentially to electrac and what ten years.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Right, I'm gonna have to go google that blooming car
of yours now that you've got a freemention in there
and you didn't even you did mention it. Anyway, Look,
I'm gonna go have another caputina, lie down, and we'll
be back in just a ticket is nineteen minutes to four.
This is the panel on the weekend Collective News Talk
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z B. Yes, welcome back. This is the week in
collective panel with Matilda Green and Shane Henderson. Matilda, who
I'm slightly jealous of because of this cardial she's got
with Mindy, who wouldn't be jealous of any deal where
you've got a hybrid to drive around and you're not
let him mention the name again though, but.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Told her no, I won't, no, No, I've had two.
I'm going to cap it there.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Hey, look, this story sort of caught my attention because,
well for a couple of reasons. But I've got to
get her a name right, Hannah Rafferty M P.
Speaker 5 (31:42):
Clark.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
It is a Hanna Rafa tea my P.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
Clark.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That's eight syllables. That's very greedy on the syllables. She's
skipping an International Monetary Fund event in Washington, d C.
Citing the price of fuel, and I simply, I'll be honest.
My initial reaction is trips where people go to these,
you know, then various get togethers and things. I always
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think they're just a giant waste of time. I'd rather
see the headline being that she's skipping the event because
it's a giant waste of her time. But now she's
she's making a silk purse out of a sow's ear,
Shane and citing the price of fuel. Have you ever
been on any junkets like this?
Speaker 1 (32:21):
No?
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I don't get to go on junk No, not counselors, No,
not really really no.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
No.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
The furthest I've been is Wellington. Yeah, which doesn't matter, Phil,
but it's not DC.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Wellington's a nice sort of place to pop them to,
isn't he?
Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yeah, it's cool.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
What do you think of this?
Speaker 5 (32:35):
Look? I'd rather she went to be honest. I think
you made a good point there though. Around If she's
skipping it because it's not important, that's cool. But if
it's about fuel shortages and things like that, I'd rather
you go and represent New Zealand and try and find
the solution there.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Well, she said she was honored to be part of
the event, but that's not where our priorities are at
the moment. What do you reckon? I hope that politics
as we will give you a give you that sort
of you know, little extra card in your hand, that
it's politics aren't your bag? But what do you think?
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I agree with you, Shane. I think it would be
awesome to have her go and represent New Zealand, especially
Indigenous New Zealand. I think that's incredible, and it feels
like kind of an odd reason. So so she's saying
fuel prices and is she's saying that she wants to
stay here in solidarity, or she's saying it's too expensive
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to get there, or she's not paying I.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Don't I know that. Every person playing apparently, you know
there is a fuel sort of uses up fuel. I guess.
So she's just to clarify. So she's been invited to
participate in this inaugural cohort of the Young Global parliament God,
I can't even say it Young Global Parliamentarians initiative bringing
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together twelve young legislators from around the world, and it's
about redefining the relationship between parliaments and global economic institutions.
Almost fellas fell asleep telling saying what it's about. But seriously,
do any meetings like this really have any tangible effect
on improving our lot, whether it be globally or unless
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if she becomes the next Winston Peters and Foreign Minister.
Good I'm glad you went on those trips, but sure
of that, I'm out.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
I'm a big Hunter fan. I really like her I
think she's amazing as may be, but even just just
to have her represent New Zealand and connect with these
other twelve nameless people.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
As you said that, I could see you running out
of Steamer's for that one.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Global young parliamentarians.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Seems a strangely low number.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I think it's really small. It's like a brilliant junket.
And you can imagine just twelve of them. You know,
if some of them get on quite well, what a.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Great I think the boardroom.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Personally, I think she's made a giant mistake. She should
be heading off to Washington and having a great time,
and you ever know, she I meet the future Prime
Minister somewhere else and when she's Foreign Minister one day.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
I take the opportunity. Hannah, Yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Would have forgiven her, that, wouldn't we. Yeah, well, I
probably would be less likely because I'm like, they're just
a big waste of time. But she wouldn't be the
first politician to go on a bit of a junket
if if ever I was in parliament. In fact, I
think if I got asked by the media to me,
are you just going on this because it's a junket,
I'd say of course I am. This is an amazing junket.
There's going to be great wine. I'm going to be
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traveling business last, and I reckon the public could go
Finally someone's saying it, how it is? What do you think?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Well?
Speaker 4 (35:42):
It sounds very important? So to your average New Zealander,
I reckon they'd hear that and say, oh, in politics,
it all told them, Oh, you couldn't pay me enough,
couldn't pay me enough. I'm too sensitive?
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Can we save this audio? Because I don't know? I reckon,
she's only a couple of decisions that they all say that.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
At first, someone says something mean and I'm gone.
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Well, that does happen to be fair? That does happen you?
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Do you get mean? Do you get mean? Things happening
at council between each other? And there's arguments. Yeah, but
if you ever actually been insulted like and I will,
you would do that? Yet? Not really, not really, because
you're too nice.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
The arguments get pretty heated, though it's not personally.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Are you the hot head?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
I can be?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Really? Really? Have you got heated against the mayor?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
No?
Speaker 5 (36:32):
Never, never, he's got that.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Now. I wish this was radio because I wish this
was radio because sorry, I wish this was a televised
sometimes then we could see the politicians smile that creeps
in when he's not quite telling the truth. Anyway, Look,
we'll be back in just a moment. It is ten
to four News Talk zed B News Talk zed Be
Tim Beverage with Matilda Green and Shane Henderson. Looked lucky.
Last thing to discuss. I actually didn't realize I've had
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no talk about Daylight saving it, but apparently it's changes tonight, Shane.
Speaker 5 (37:02):
Yeah, and the good Way as well, so it's fall back.
So you've got going forward and fall back, so we're
going back tonight.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
So yeah, you heard any talk about it, Matilda, it's
sort of oop, So I'll just turn you my.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Care Sorry about that. No, I haven't heard a thing
about it, but I am really looking forward to it,
to be honest, because of the sleeping Yeah, and get
those kids into a bed a bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Ah, that's where you actually make it up. I was
having a chat with my producer about this, that it's
in the evening, that it makes a difference for your
kids because they see the sun coming down and so
but unfortunately tomorrow morning you don't really get to sleep
in because their body clocks are their body clocks, and
they'll be getting up. They don't care what time it is,
or do they look at the clock and go, oh goodie,
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we get to sleep in too.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
No.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
No, my six, four and two year olds do not
look at the clock and think, oh, I might just
give it another hour or so. No, they are up
at the cracker down. But I think I would rather
have an extra hour at night and get up early
rather than have them away late.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yes, in the morning, it always does feel quite. It
will suddenly feel very change of seasonish because we used
to change the clocks a few weeks earlier than this.
But all of a sudden, I think you'll notice tomorrow
night when all of a sudden you look at the
time and it'll be like, oh my goodness, it is
so dark. But at least it won't be so dim
in the morning. Shane, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (38:20):
Yeah, that's awesome. I mean young kids as well, having
young kids as well. I mean the heighthest summer is
the worst because trying to get them down when it's
blazing hot sunshine outside, it's awful. So, yeah, this is
the good time of year.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
For the rest of that. I mean usually there's discussions
around this time around whether daylight's saving. You know, some
people want to have a daylight saving all the around,
but I don't think they realize that that means for
certain parts of even New Zealand, that means your kids
are going to be going to school in darkness. I mean,
I think we've got it roughly about right, wouldn't you say?
Speaker 4 (38:48):
I think so. But I've done a bit of reading
around circadian rhythms and how the disruption in your circadian
rhythm is not good for you. Don't ask me details
about it, tim because I don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
You're talking to the guy who does overnight overnight radio,
so you know I'm constantly dealing with that all the time.
In fact, it must be about time that we've got
our sleep expert and just to touch on those. But yeah,
I mean subtle shifts. Look, you'll recover. You must have
been to other countries and how quickly did you manage
to adjust to the Paris timetable or two days? Man,
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what are you doing for the rest of the weekend.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
Well, tomorrow morning obviously is Easter Sunday, so so we'll
be doing a Easter egg hunts, Shane, you've got little kids.
Speaker 5 (39:29):
Too, absolutely, yeah, eleven and six. So we're hiding the
Easter eggs tonight. Yeah, so there we go.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Bunny.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Oh so you're doing the full do you do the
Easter eggs full thing.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Out in the garden and everything, and the Easter Bunny.
Speaker 5 (39:42):
It's part of the fun.
Speaker 2 (39:42):
I'm not actually, I'm just suddenly realizing that, right of course,
because the east but Easter Bunny Bunny does come tonight,
that's right.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
I'm suddenly realizing my kids might be listening to this,
so no, no, I know.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Because.
Speaker 5 (39:55):
Yes, they love you.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
It's your target audience, isn't.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
It, Tim, Absolutely, Yeah, that's that's it. Hey, look, happy Easter, guys.
I hope that Easter Bunney is generous. Feed Tomorrow Matilda
is going to go home and you're going to look
up on chat GBT how to make hot cross buns,
aren't you?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
I certainly am can't be any second rule very suggestible anyway, Hey, thanks, guys,
I really appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
We'll be back with the One Roof radio show. Kelly Gamy.
She's a brand new guest on the show. She's an
inteller interior designer, and we're going to be talking about
well taking your calls on No. Eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty, but talking about the common design mistakes people
make and the mustabs at home and also how do
you make a small home feel big that, among many
other questions. This is the Weekend Collective. Back soon.
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