July 3, 2026 • 13 mins
The time has nearly come for the All Blacks to kick off their 2026 season.
They're facing France in the first Nations Championship clash, which also happens to be the first test in Dave Rennie's tenure as coach.
NZ Rugby Chair David Kirk told Piney that the stakes are high – the team needs to play well.
He says they need to see the early stanzas in a new style of rugby and a new chapter for New Zealand, as this is the first step in building towards the World Cup.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
One of the biggest days on the twenty twenty six
sporting calendar, the All Blacks begining new Test season tonight
against France here in christ Church. With it comes the
start of a new era under head coach Dave Rennie.
So who better to lead us off than one of
the most influential figures in New Zealand rugby both past
and present. He played thirty four times for the All
Blacks seventeen Test matches and led us to victory at
(00:33):
the inaugural Rugby World Cup in nineteen eighty seven. Posters
playing days. He's built an outstanding international business career and
today's sits at the very heart of the game as
Chair of New Zealand Rugby, helping shape not only the
future of the All Blacks, but the future of rugby
in this country. Great pleasure to welcome for All Blacks
Captain Chair of New Zealand Rugby, David kirk mbe too.
(00:55):
Weekend Sportyodo David, Hi, Jason, Great, great to have you here, mate,
Thanks for joining us. Today sees the start of a
new Test season new era under Dave Rennie. The first
Test at this brand new stadium?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Significant? Does today feel?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Well?
Speaker 5 (01:08):
If judging by my nervousness, it must be significant. I
haven't felt this nervous before a Test for a long time. Yeah,
I think it is. It is the beginning of a
new era. Dave's done a lot of ground work. He's
a very meticulous person, and we've had a wonderful Super
Rugby season, so we're coming and off a domestic high.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But we just we just don't know Dave.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Dave and his fellow coaches have got to put together
a Test team and they've got it with a pretty
limited build up. But Dave's not complaining about that. They
got they got to put on the park because this
French team is going to be good.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So when you say the nerves are there, and I'm
sure they are ahead of any Test match, is it
the uncertainty that's driving that nervousness.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I think it's just the stakes. You know, the stakes
are high.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I mean even think it's a first Test, you know, whatever,
but the stakes are high. This team needs to play
well and we need to see the the early stands
is in a in a new style of rugby in
a new chapter for New Zealand, and it obviously runs
on for ever, but in a sense it runs into
a South African tour, it runs into a World Cup
next year, and this is the first step on that journey.
(02:13):
So we want to make that very positive.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
How will you assess year one?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
If we're sitting here in December, you and I were
chatting on the phone, what would have had to have
happened for you to be relatively satisfied with twenty twenty six?
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Well, winds will be important, but you know that needs
to be also balanced with the sense of momentum behind
the team, the building, the fact that they're building into
a World Cup year, and the sense that the players
and the coaches are on the on the same wave
length and have the same ideas about where they're going
(02:48):
and where they need.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
To do to get there.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
At different times, coaches and players will take need to
take responsibility, and both need to listen to each other,
and it needs to be a team that works well together,
so we will know. I mean, there is a little
bit of a vibe, a little bit of a you
can't really define it. When teams are really they have
momentum they're growing, they're developing.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
You'll see it in flashes of play.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
And you'll think, wow, if they could do that for
longer or better, then this is going to be a
great team. We will know by the end of the
season if this is going to be a beginning of
a new era of greatness in All Black rugby, and
it'll be what they put on the part.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I guess the difference around this one in terms of
the World Cup cycle is it's a much shorter runway
to the Rugby World Cup next year. Every World Cup
cycle has to balance winning with also building a bit
of depth and building for the tournament itself. How do
you strike that balance over a much shorter period.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Well, that's really a question for the coach more than
me as a chief administrator in terms of what is
the right thing to the right way to develop this team,
including it's the style and the approach that they want
to play traded off potentially against wins. Hopefully not Hopefully
the two are complimentary, but there will be some trade
offs at times, and there will be some need to
(04:06):
blow younger players and the women need some need to
take some risk with the style of play or the
or the players that are on the field and so
that the coaches need to trade off all of that,
and I certainly support their judgment and doing that.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Since you made the appointment and installed Dave Rennie into
the head coaching role, what have you seen from him?
What have been the nature of your conversations? How are
you feeling about the appointment now that it's it's done
and he's in the big chair.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Well, firstly, it's an appointment of the New Zealand Board, so
the whole board was across this and there were a
whole range of different inputs to the appointment, and so
it delighted that the board was unanimous and appointing Dave.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
And what was the second part of questions?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I just wonder what it's been like having him there.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
From him, he's been great, but he's but as all
coaches do, all coaches do. Head coaches in particular, once
you give them a mantle, they take it and they're off.
They're not over their shoulder, you know, sending emails to
administrators like me. He's putting together their team, involving with
the players that deciding what style of play want to play.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
They're doing all the analytics they have to do.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
So Day has been running really hard for a fair
while and they lead up to this build up to
this first Test match, so he has he and.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I have not been contoled on discussing. He's got a
job to do and he's he's up and running fantastic.
I just noted, actually, just to change the subject completely,
it's forty years and six days since you captain the
Baby Blacks to victory over France in this city.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
How vivid is that now? Four decades on?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Very vivid? That's hard to you. I will never forget
that in my whole life. Was it was a very
tumultuous period. People will remember that the Cavalier has just
gone off and then I've just come back, and then
they've been banned for three matches and no two matches sorry,
and so they had to pick a new team. And
so we'd had this build up of this week here
(05:55):
in christ Church, a Test week same as any other
Test week, only there was a whole lot of people
who'd never played for the for the All Blacks, there
was a whole lot of debutantes and I think only
two or three players. I'd played about six tests and
I was the second most capped player.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I think John Kerwin was the most gap player.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
So but you know, we took it as seriously as
any all Black team would do, and we went. We
played to win, and we had a clear style and
approach to win. And it was the Five Nations champions
France that were on the field, the great Surge Blanco
and all of those guys, and of course we.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Pulled it off incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And then a year later you're lifting the William Webb
Allis Trophy Captain in New Zealand to victory at the
inaugural Rugby World Cup. We know the story of Andy
Dalton obviously, and still that lovely image of the two
of you holding up the trophy. Do you think there
are lessons from when you played test rugby that still
apply today.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Well, there's a real continuity about Test rug But it's
not about the style of play. It's not about the
individual players, it's not about the laws and how you
have to adapt to those.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It's about what.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
It means to us to win and what it means
to us to be for each team to be contributors
to the legacy that they inherit. That will never change
and as long as the team understands you know what
the all black jersey asks of them, then there's nothing
different from the way we did it to the way
(07:18):
this team will do it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
How much greater do you assess the scrutiny to be
on the modern day all black compared to in your day.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Way way way, way, way, way more.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
And be listing those so, I think it's a whole
different era and environment and much more challenging for the players.
It was much easier in my day just to be
a little bit anonymous and have a good time when
no one was looking.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
All right, We'll take a break and come back with
David Kirk in just a moment here from Robbie's at Litchfield.
This is Weekend Sport on News Talks, EDB twelve twenty one.
Here on News Talks HEADB Weekend Sport coming to your
Life from christ Church from Robbie's Litchfield. Chair of New
Zealand Rugby David Kirk is with us as chair. David,
your focus goes far beyond the all Blacks, of course.
What's your assessment of the overall health of the game
(08:00):
of rugby in New Zealand at the moment?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Ah, pretty good.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
We've got We've got four major strategic prior to winning
Teams in Black, and the health of that is, we
think stronger than it has been in the last couple
of years, but that will be proved by results and
performances this year. A thriving community game. We've we've got
a growing number of younger people moving into the game,
but that's an ongoing challenge and lots of it's a
(08:25):
many many headed beast, the thriving community game. But we're
looking forward to strong NBC as well. And then we've
got a successful, profitable and growing business and that's definitely
the case, but lots of challenges. There, lots of challenges
to make it, you know, to balance things, to make
sure that we've got the cost base and the revenue
base right, but also to grow, to invest in growth
(08:47):
and develop our international brands and who we are. And
finally it's to be aligned and engaged with the whole
game from top to bottom.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
And I think we're doing pretty well there.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I mean, I really pray people just come into the game,
young people, and out of that will develop the the
great players that will gone to play for the All Blacks.
But just getting young people into the game are getting
them off screens and into doing team sports in particular,
whatever that might be. I think there's a real challenge
in that there's a lot of things that distract them.
(09:21):
And then as they sort of move down and get older,
whether they stick with rugby or they get introduced to
rugby at a later time, that's up to us. We've
got a lot of ways in which we can engage
with the community to get people into the game. And
I think when people get to that sort of eighteen
nineteen twenty, when they try and they are good enough
to play professional rugby or rugby league, that's when we
(09:42):
need to make sure we keep our best players in
the system. The challenge for us is money and that
the NRL is just a it's got a very limited
focus on building that doesn't have the same national community
game that we have and the investment that's required and
that so all of their money goes into the professional tournament,
(10:04):
which is the NRL tournament everyone knows about, and they
have money left over, plenty of money to throw at players.
A lot of players get opportunities to go to clubs
in Australia and for many it doesn't work out and
they end up sort of just just dropping out of
the system. So you know, rugby, we need to be
competitive at that level. We need to be able to
sell the benefits of our game. And that's of course
(10:26):
the international footprint that we have in the Rugby World
Cup every year, but going to play on Twickenham, going
to play in South Africa on Ellis Park. You know,
there's all of that. That and also the family that
rugby is and I think from community rugby in New Zealand,
through professional rugby, we offer players development pathways and a
real rugby family to engage with.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Commercially, how do you, as you say you need more money,
how do you monetize the all Blacks or bring your
revenue streams into New Zealand rugby without losing sight of
the of the core traditions of the game.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, well, the best thing for us is to focus
on on where we make money out of the media
media deals obviously all around the world with the games
that we that we that we play in and also sponsorship,
so we use that the game. We use all the
games and all the major players to get the best
sponsorships we can, particularly the front of Jersey sponsorship. So
(11:24):
all of that goes on in parallel with the team.
The team is definitely needed that mostly they needed to win,
to continue winning and to continue that the mystique that
is the All Blacks and also the Black fans. But
we also need them to engage with sponsors, and we
need them to engage in a way which is refreshing
and engaging and builds fan base because in the end,
(11:45):
it's all it's all based on a fan base and
we're the only real brand rugby brand in the world.
The All Blacks is the only rugby brand in the
world that's genuinely global. So we have we have fans
in the United States, in Japan and Europe and the UK,
so plenty of We just need to build that fan base.
So the players need to contribute to that by the
way they play and the way they comport themselves off field,
(12:06):
and just when we need them to be engaged with sponsors.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
All right, I know I've got other commitments, but just
to finish on a day like today, All Blacks running
out in christ Church New Stadium, France, does a day
like today still stir something inside you, even after everything
you've done in the game, on and off the field.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Well, today does actually quite Sometimes in test matches I
don't feel any sort of jeopandy, if you like, but
today I do. I feel a bit nervous and I
feel a bit of the jeopardy. I really want us
to play well. I really want us to win, so
I'm very invested in today.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Fantastic David. It's great to get the chance to spend
some time with you. Thank you for joining us. As
I say, I know you've got other things to do today.
Enjoy tonight and look forward to catching up next time.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Thanks very much, Jason, Thanks David.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
David kirk there the chair of New Zealand Rugby, former
All Blacks captain of course Rugby World Cup winning captain
in nineteen eighty seven and forty years ago, was the
captain of the Baby Blacks here in christ Church when
they took on France and it was that famous victory
at the Old Lancaster Park by eighteen points.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Tonight.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
One of the biggest days on the twenty twenty six
sporting calendar, the All Blacks begining new Test season tonight
against France here in christ Church. With it comes the
start of a new era under head coach Dave Rennie.
So who better to lead us off than one of
the most influential figures in New Zealand rugby both past
and present. He played thirty four times for the All
Blacks seventeen Test matches and led us to victory at
(00:33):
the inaugural Rugby World Cup in nineteen eighty seven. Posters
playing days. He's built an outstanding international business career and
today's sits at the very heart of the game as
Chair of New Zealand Rugby, helping shape not only the
future of the All Blacks, but the future of rugby
in this country. Great pleasure to welcome for All Blacks
Captain Chair of New Zealand Rugby, David kirk mbe too.
(00:55):
Weekend Sportyodo David, Hi, Jason, Great, great to have you here, mate,
Thanks for joining us. Today sees the start of a
new Test season new era under Dave Rennie. The first
Test at this brand new stadium?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Significant? Does today feel?
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Well?
Speaker 5 (01:08):
If judging by my nervousness, it must be significant. I
haven't felt this nervous before a Test for a long time. Yeah,
I think it is. It is the beginning of a
new era. Dave's done a lot of ground work. He's
a very meticulous person, and we've had a wonderful Super
Rugby season, so we're coming and off a domestic high.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But we just we just don't know Dave.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
Dave and his fellow coaches have got to put together
a Test team and they've got it with a pretty
limited build up. But Dave's not complaining about that. They
got they got to put on the park because this
French team is going to be good.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
So when you say the nerves are there, and I'm
sure they are ahead of any Test match, is it
the uncertainty that's driving that nervousness.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
I think it's just the stakes. You know, the stakes
are high.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I mean even think it's a first Test, you know, whatever,
but the stakes are high. This team needs to play
well and we need to see the the early stands
is in a in a new style of rugby in
a new chapter for New Zealand, and it obviously runs
on for ever, but in a sense it runs into
a South African tour, it runs into a World Cup
next year, and this is the first step on that journey.
(02:13):
So we want to make that very positive.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
How will you assess year one?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
If we're sitting here in December, you and I were
chatting on the phone, what would have had to have
happened for you to be relatively satisfied with twenty twenty six?
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Well, winds will be important, but you know that needs
to be also balanced with the sense of momentum behind
the team, the building, the fact that they're building into
a World Cup year, and the sense that the players
and the coaches are on the on the same wave
length and have the same ideas about where they're going
(02:48):
and where they need.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
To do to get there.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
At different times, coaches and players will take need to
take responsibility, and both need to listen to each other,
and it needs to be a team that works well together,
so we will know. I mean, there is a little
bit of a vibe, a little bit of a you
can't really define it. When teams are really they have
momentum they're growing, they're developing.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
You'll see it in flashes of play.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
And you'll think, wow, if they could do that for
longer or better, then this is going to be a
great team. We will know by the end of the
season if this is going to be a beginning of
a new era of greatness in All Black rugby, and
it'll be what they put on the part.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I guess the difference around this one in terms of
the World Cup cycle is it's a much shorter runway
to the Rugby World Cup next year. Every World Cup
cycle has to balance winning with also building a bit
of depth and building for the tournament itself. How do
you strike that balance over a much shorter period.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
Well, that's really a question for the coach more than
me as a chief administrator in terms of what is
the right thing to the right way to develop this team,
including it's the style and the approach that they want
to play traded off potentially against wins. Hopefully not Hopefully
the two are complimentary, but there will be some trade
offs at times, and there will be some need to
(04:06):
blow younger players and the women need some need to
take some risk with the style of play or the
or the players that are on the field and so
that the coaches need to trade off all of that,
and I certainly support their judgment and doing that.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Since you made the appointment and installed Dave Rennie into
the head coaching role, what have you seen from him?
What have been the nature of your conversations? How are
you feeling about the appointment now that it's it's done
and he's in the big chair.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
Well, firstly, it's an appointment of the New Zealand Board, so
the whole board was across this and there were a
whole range of different inputs to the appointment, and so
it delighted that the board was unanimous and appointing Dave.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
And what was the second part of questions?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I just wonder what it's been like having him there.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
From him, he's been great, but he's but as all
coaches do, all coaches do. Head coaches in particular, once
you give them a mantle, they take it and they're off.
They're not over their shoulder, you know, sending emails to
administrators like me. He's putting together their team, involving with
the players that deciding what style of play want to play.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
They're doing all the analytics they have to do.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
So Day has been running really hard for a fair
while and they lead up to this build up to
this first Test match, so he has he and.
Speaker 6 (05:15):
I have not been contoled on discussing. He's got a
job to do and he's he's up and running fantastic.
I just noted, actually, just to change the subject completely,
it's forty years and six days since you captain the
Baby Blacks to victory over France in this city.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
How vivid is that now? Four decades on?
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Very vivid? That's hard to you. I will never forget
that in my whole life. Was it was a very
tumultuous period. People will remember that the Cavalier has just
gone off and then I've just come back, and then
they've been banned for three matches and no two matches sorry,
and so they had to pick a new team. And
so we'd had this build up of this week here
(05:55):
in christ Church, a Test week same as any other
Test week, only there was a whole lot of people
who'd never played for the for the All Blacks, there
was a whole lot of debutantes and I think only
two or three players. I'd played about six tests and
I was the second most capped player.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I think John Kerwin was the most gap player.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
So but you know, we took it as seriously as
any all Black team would do, and we went. We
played to win, and we had a clear style and
approach to win. And it was the Five Nations champions
France that were on the field, the great Surge Blanco
and all of those guys, and of course we.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Pulled it off incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And then a year later you're lifting the William Webb
Allis Trophy Captain in New Zealand to victory at the
inaugural Rugby World Cup. We know the story of Andy
Dalton obviously, and still that lovely image of the two
of you holding up the trophy. Do you think there
are lessons from when you played test rugby that still
apply today.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Well, there's a real continuity about Test rug But it's
not about the style of play. It's not about the
individual players, it's not about the laws and how you
have to adapt to those.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
It's about what.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
It means to us to win and what it means
to us to be for each team to be contributors
to the legacy that they inherit. That will never change
and as long as the team understands you know what
the all black jersey asks of them, then there's nothing
different from the way we did it to the way
(07:18):
this team will do it.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
How much greater do you assess the scrutiny to be
on the modern day all black compared to in your day.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
Way way way, way, way, way more.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
And be listing those so, I think it's a whole
different era and environment and much more challenging for the players.
It was much easier in my day just to be
a little bit anonymous and have a good time when
no one was looking.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
All right, We'll take a break and come back with
David Kirk in just a moment here from Robbie's at Litchfield.
This is Weekend Sport on News Talks, EDB twelve twenty one.
Here on News Talks HEADB Weekend Sport coming to your
Life from christ Church from Robbie's Litchfield. Chair of New
Zealand Rugby David Kirk is with us as chair. David,
your focus goes far beyond the all Blacks, of course.
What's your assessment of the overall health of the game
(08:00):
of rugby in New Zealand at the moment?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Ah, pretty good.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
We've got We've got four major strategic prior to winning
Teams in Black, and the health of that is, we
think stronger than it has been in the last couple
of years, but that will be proved by results and
performances this year. A thriving community game. We've we've got
a growing number of younger people moving into the game,
but that's an ongoing challenge and lots of it's a
(08:25):
many many headed beast, the thriving community game. But we're
looking forward to strong NBC as well. And then we've
got a successful, profitable and growing business and that's definitely
the case, but lots of challenges. There, lots of challenges
to make it, you know, to balance things, to make
sure that we've got the cost base and the revenue
base right, but also to grow, to invest in growth
(08:47):
and develop our international brands and who we are. And
finally it's to be aligned and engaged with the whole
game from top to bottom.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
And I think we're doing pretty well there.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I mean, I really pray people just come into the game,
young people, and out of that will develop the the
great players that will gone to play for the All Blacks.
But just getting young people into the game are getting
them off screens and into doing team sports in particular,
whatever that might be. I think there's a real challenge
in that there's a lot of things that distract them.
(09:21):
And then as they sort of move down and get older,
whether they stick with rugby or they get introduced to
rugby at a later time, that's up to us. We've
got a lot of ways in which we can engage
with the community to get people into the game. And
I think when people get to that sort of eighteen
nineteen twenty, when they try and they are good enough
to play professional rugby or rugby league, that's when we
(09:42):
need to make sure we keep our best players in
the system. The challenge for us is money and that
the NRL is just a it's got a very limited
focus on building that doesn't have the same national community
game that we have and the investment that's required and
that so all of their money goes into the professional tournament,
(10:04):
which is the NRL tournament everyone knows about, and they
have money left over, plenty of money to throw at players.
A lot of players get opportunities to go to clubs
in Australia and for many it doesn't work out and
they end up sort of just just dropping out of
the system. So you know, rugby, we need to be
competitive at that level. We need to be able to
sell the benefits of our game. And that's of course
(10:26):
the international footprint that we have in the Rugby World
Cup every year, but going to play on Twickenham, going
to play in South Africa on Ellis Park. You know,
there's all of that. That and also the family that
rugby is and I think from community rugby in New Zealand,
through professional rugby, we offer players development pathways and a
real rugby family to engage with.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Commercially, how do you, as you say you need more money,
how do you monetize the all Blacks or bring your
revenue streams into New Zealand rugby without losing sight of
the of the core traditions of the game.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, well, the best thing for us is to focus
on on where we make money out of the media
media deals obviously all around the world with the games
that we that we that we play in and also sponsorship,
so we use that the game. We use all the
games and all the major players to get the best
sponsorships we can, particularly the front of Jersey sponsorship. So
(11:24):
all of that goes on in parallel with the team.
The team is definitely needed that mostly they needed to win,
to continue winning and to continue that the mystique that
is the All Blacks and also the Black fans. But
we also need them to engage with sponsors, and we
need them to engage in a way which is refreshing
and engaging and builds fan base because in the end,
(11:45):
it's all it's all based on a fan base and
we're the only real brand rugby brand in the world.
The All Blacks is the only rugby brand in the
world that's genuinely global. So we have we have fans
in the United States, in Japan and Europe and the UK,
so plenty of We just need to build that fan base.
So the players need to contribute to that by the
way they play and the way they comport themselves off field,
(12:06):
and just when we need them to be engaged with sponsors.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
All right, I know I've got other commitments, but just
to finish on a day like today, All Blacks running
out in christ Church New Stadium, France, does a day
like today still stir something inside you, even after everything
you've done in the game, on and off the field.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Well, today does actually quite Sometimes in test matches I
don't feel any sort of jeopandy, if you like, but
today I do. I feel a bit nervous and I
feel a bit of the jeopardy. I really want us
to play well. I really want us to win, so
I'm very invested in today.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Fantastic David. It's great to get the chance to spend
some time with you. Thank you for joining us. As
I say, I know you've got other things to do today.
Enjoy tonight and look forward to catching up next time.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Thanks very much, Jason, Thanks David.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
David kirk there the chair of New Zealand Rugby, former
All Blacks captain of course Rugby World Cup winning captain
in nineteen eighty seven and forty years ago, was the
captain of the Baby Blacks here in christ Church when
they took on France and it was that famous victory
at the Old Lancaster Park by eighteen points.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Tonight.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk Set B weekends from midday or follow
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