Full Show Podcast: 03 May 2026

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fourth straight win, an extraordinary day at the snooker, and
we'll look ahead to the Wellington Phoenix Women's A League
semi Final tonight and celebrate the return of the Ocean
Race to Auckland early next year. All of that on
the show First Up today, though. The unmatched drama of
a penalty shootout in football Auckland FC and Melbourne City

(01:32):
put that on last night, Auckland FC prevailing seven six
on penalties to advance to the A League Men's semi Finals.
Incredible night at go Media Stadium last night. Coach of
Auckland f C, Steve corakas Dan he might a chat
to us if you were there or if you're watched,
would love to hear from you. I can't think of
higher drama and a greater range of emotions across the

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entire spectrum as what is delivered by a penalty shootout,
and it certainly did that last night. Line's open all afternoon.
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Speaker 4 (02:21):
NB high drama at go Media Stadium last night.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Dan Hall, who has never scored for lot An.

Speaker 5 (02:31):
FC and last scored in December of twenty twenty three,
sixty three.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Games without a gold.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Dan Hall.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Stands NFC.

Speaker 7 (03:00):
Hal been semifinal and the most.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Dramatic life circumstances. Seven perfect penalties for KINDFC and.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
They might we want to have a.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
New A League men's champion. Yeah, remarkable stuff. Auckland f
C surviving a gripping penalty shootout winning at seven to
six to beat defending champions Melbourne City in their A
League elimination final. That was after it was one all
at ninety minutes, no further scoring during extra time, so
into the penalty shootout they went. Auckland FC head coach

(03:37):
is Steve Coricker, who joins us. Now, you've been around
the game for a long time as a player and
a coach. Steve Weather's last night rank in terms of
drama and maybe the relief that you felt afterwards.

Speaker 8 (03:50):
Definitely right up there with you know, some of the
special moments. And in my coaching career I've had a
couple of penalty shootouts before with Sydney in the Grand
Final against Perth that we that we won a couple
of times an assistant coach as well, But that's that's
definitely right up there. Just the way the game was
panned out. They scored, you know, obviously the last free

(04:13):
kick of the game, only a couple of minutes to go,
so you know, all the drama that goes with the emotions,
the passion, and then obviously some great penalties as well,
fantastic and obviously Michael comes up with one big save
which is all we needed.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
When you're in the huddle after extra time, can you
take us inside there? How do you how do you
land on your penalty takers at that time.

Speaker 8 (04:38):
We practiced during the week, which practiced on Thursday and
someone on Friday. I sort of I have a list
in my mind obviously before the game who's going to
take them? At least for the top five anyway, but
that obviously can change, so with you know, substitutes, which
you know probably Lucky Brook would have taken one, Jesse
Randam would have taken one if he was on the field,
Cam Howison, so you know, from that list then you

(05:03):
have to go with what you what you think is
the next next best and obviously you know whoever else
is you ask on the day as well afterwards, you know,
Dan will was one that actually put his hand up
and said, yeah, I'll take a penalty. Some people don't
like taking him. Dan was confident to step up and
obviously in the end he scored the winner, so amazing

(05:26):
for him. You know, all pens were brilliant.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
I thought, I.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Feel like the biggest precious steve was on Nando Pineke
and Hiroki Sakai, because if they missed their penalties, you're out.
How do you even hold your nerve in a situation
like that?

Speaker 8 (05:43):
Well they did obviously. Obviously Hiroki's been around for a
lot of time, experienced player, but Nando's just come back
into the side as well. Come on, I thought his
pen was good as well. But yeah, you're right, I
think that's that's more pressure because and especially because they
were first and every time they kept scoring, so but
we kept responding as well, which you know, the boys

(06:05):
showed them they were brilliant. I thought, under pressure like that,
they you know, they were great and like I said,
and then it only needed one for Michael to step
up and save and then we had the opportunity to
win it, obviously with Dan Hall's one, which was a
good pattern as well.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
It was it was a really good pen There's two
tosses of the coin before a shootout. One is to
decide who goes first or you can get the chance
to go first or second to be one that and
the and the toss of the coin for the ends.
How how important do you think it was that that
the penalties were taken at the port end of the stadium.

Speaker 8 (06:43):
Very important, I think, if you know, I know they
have to toss a coin for that. But obviously it
worked out nicely in front of our home fans because
if it's at the other end, there's no one actually there,
so it wouldn't have been great. The atmosphere wouldn't have
been the same.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Obviously.

Speaker 8 (06:57):
It puts more pressure on them as well with our
supporters there right, you know, Billingham or cheering and for us,
and you know, it's just I think it just looked
better as well. But it worked out nicely. But I
was I ran back in the changer and I had
to go to the toilet quickly before all this was
all this was happening, so and I've had a really

(07:18):
a vidmar in the tunnel up there as well, so
he obviously he was doing the same.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
It's all that water you drink during the game. I
think that's what That's what the problem game made. It
was it was a very long game. Was Michael vaub
comes up with a with with the save on Melbourne
City seventh from Nathaniel Atkinson. How big was his presence,
you know, not just in the shootout, but in last
night's game on the whole.

Speaker 8 (07:40):
He's been He's been great obviously, you know, we I
left him out one game obviously with Olisa coming back
in in the Perth game, and he's really responded from that.
I think it's probably helped him. I think he's he's
you know, been more focused as well. I think since
he's come back into the side and making some big

(08:00):
saves for us again last last night. You know, obviously
in the penalty shootout.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
He did it.

Speaker 8 (08:06):
The Australia Cup as well against Sydney he come up
with a couple of big staves in that match as well.
He is a big presence obviously in the goal because
he's a big boy and you know when someone's stepping
up to take a pen like that and see the
big bowalkeeper and taking up most of the goal. It
is you know, it's it's tough for the taker as well.

(08:29):
So but he's done well. He's come up with the
goods as well for us. And I said it in
the penal shootout, I said, Michael will make He'll win
us the game. And he come up big with that
big save.

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Just before we move away from the penalty shootout. As
you say, when you were sitting in the FC boss,
you won a Grand Final away against Perth Glory on penalty?
Did they? I mean, how did you cope? Do you
have a coping mechanism and high emotion dramatic field moments
like that.

Speaker 8 (08:58):
Obviously I'm nervous, but again there's it's in the god's mate,
you know, just whatever's going to happen, is game happen.
It's not going to I can't really change it. There's
a lot of pressure. I've taken penalties before myself in
that situation. I know how much pressures on the players.
I just said to him, you know we practiced it, obviously,

(09:20):
we just I just said to him, you make your
decision and you stick to your decision and just hit
it as hard as you can.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
So you know, their.

Speaker 8 (09:28):
Penalties were very good and ours were obviously good as well.
Just the one save they out of thirteen fourteen fourteen
penalties taken some really spot on pens.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
You were cheekens away from winning the game in normal time.
We're into added time at the end of the ninety
minutes and they score very very late on. So how
challenging is that to then? I mean, you're seeking away
from winning it, Steve. You've got to get your team
together and get them up for extra time. What's what's
that like? What's that messaging?

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yeah, that was tough.

Speaker 8 (10:02):
Obviously we're disappointed to concede, but the boys, you know,
they carried on. We had to make a change because
I didn't think we would getting enough pressure on their defenders,
so that's when we brought Lim Gillian on and went
with a front three instead of a front two, So
I think that helped us. I thought Liam did really
well when he come on. We could get an outlet

(10:24):
from Liam and also from Gushamo and Cosey up top.
So yeah, no, they responded pretty well. Obviously disappointed with
the goal, and I think if you ef, you actually
have a good look at that. Nando was rugby tackled
and brought down. So I'm not sure why they didn't
look at it as long, very long, because it looked

(10:46):
like they just carried on. So but you know, they
responded well again the message, you know, we worked hard
in training for these reasons, you know, conditioning days four
v four's all this kind of stuff that we do
when it does come to this extra time that we
have the energy and we have the momentum to keep going.

(11:08):
And the voys they just kept going and you know,
Ford hard obviously, you know, and we had a couple
of chances I think in extra time and just couldn't
manage to put it away. And like I said, it's
in the gods sometimes that is meant to be. He
goes to penalties and what happens happens.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
See Sam Cosgrove ruptured ankle Ligaman Apparently there are three
ligaments in there, so he's only said after James RUPs
had one of them, he's still got two. His involvement
last night, which was probably longer than your thought. I
think it went on with half an hour ago, but
then had to play the extra time as well, so
an hour of football. Is that going to affect his
involvement over the next two games against Adelaide United or

(11:46):
do you not know yet?

Speaker 8 (11:48):
I don't think so. I think he's saw him just
before he said he's fine, so obviously he's he's a brave,
brave man because obviously he has got an injury there
and he's you know, scrapped it up as tight as possible.
I thought he did really well as when he came on,
he does what he does, holds the ball up for us,

(12:10):
is very good in the air, he wins, wins headers,
flicks on, brings people into play as well. So I
thought he did well for me, better than expected with
that kind of injury. I was quite happy with, you know,
what he could bring to the table. Still, you know,
this week might be similar to US three and then
maybe train as much. But you know, I suppose at

(12:32):
the end of the day is just getting them, rolling
them out for match day and hope and they're they're fine.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
And just on the challenge that awaits you. Now it's
quite different, isn't it. You've got a two leg at
semi final rather than last night, which was you know,
do or die, you win or you're or you're out.
So how do you approach the first leg? How do
you approach the tie as a whole? I know how
to experience last year, but it's flopped the other way
around though. The home league is first.

Speaker 8 (12:59):
I think we can learn from last last season obviously.
You know we we did really well last season away
from home, got the one you'll win, but again if
you don't back it up the next week, and you
know which we didn't. You know, we can see the
two quick goals and that basically knocked us out, other
than the goal that we you know, should have had
scored as well, which might have helped. But yeah, I

(13:22):
think we can learn from that obviously. You know, Adelaide's
a different team, very attacking team as well. First legs
at home, which which I don't mind. I think that's
quite good for us if we can get a good
result at home. You know, going to Adelaide is always tough,
but it's a great atmosphere down there, and you know,

(13:42):
I'm sure you know they'll be pushing in that final
game to try and get to a final, but you
know we so it's a different challenge, but looking forward
to that.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yep Sioway, Steve Sawy. Thanks for joining us the day
after mate, enjoy the rest of you of your Sunday
before you start planning for next weekend. I appreciate you
taking our call. Steve Corick, a head coach of Auckland FC,
lines open to talk penally shootouts, to talk Auckland FC.
Especially if you were there last night. I'd love to
hear what it was like as that drama unfolded at

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the end eight hundred eighty ten eighty or if you
watched on TV eight hundred eighty ten eighty and I
we're going to take some calls on the football. Sport
has the ability, doesn't it, to create drama. I think
that's one of the reasons we love it so much.
The moments, the micro moments that create emotion across the

(14:40):
entire spectrum of what is available to human beings, and
we saw it last night. The contrast between the delirium
and the delight of Auckland FC afterwards and the despair
and disolation of Melbourne City was so stark. Some of
the Melbourne City players were in tears afterwards. Most of

(15:01):
them just slumped either on the ground or on the bench,
just giving it. The one thousand yards stare just gazing
into the middle distance and wondering how it had got
away from them, and contemplating the fact that their season
is done. And I think about what it takes to

(15:23):
perform in a moment like that. How on earth these
players can absolutely empty their tank across one hundred and
twenty minutes, not just ninety minutes, one hundred and twenty
minutes and then still have the clarity of thought and
the composure to slow their heart rate down and deliver
in such a high pressure do warde situation is just

(15:47):
beyond me. So huge kudos to those who stood up,
successful or not. A lot of players and a lot
of sports say, yeah, I love the big occasion. These
are the games I want to play, and these are
the moments that I want to be a part of.
A lot of players say that. A lot of players,
in fact most do. Last night they got the chance

(16:08):
to prove it, and a number of them did. Fourteen
penalties thirteen successful, Michael Vowed with a massive save of
Melbourne City's seventh spot kick, and then Dan Hall stepping
up and nailing his to take Auckland FC through to
a semi finals. So that's home and away As I

(16:28):
mentioned to Steve, they're up against Adelaide United, so they'll
play the home leg this coming Saturday. So next weekend,
Saturday the ninth, it'll be a six o'clock kickoff, and
that's just the first half, so it won't be anything
like last night. There won't be any sort of do
or die kind of layer to it at the end

(16:50):
of the game on Saturday, it'll only be halftime in
the tie, and then the following Friday, the two teams
will square off again at Cooper Stadium in Adelaide, which
is an absolute cauldron. And then at the end of
one hundred and eighty minutes, it's whoever's ahead on aggregate
who goes through. And if the aggregate scores are level,
then then we have extra time and then potentially a

(17:14):
penalty shootout as well to see who goes into the
Grand Final. So I'd love to hear your thoughts on
the drama of it all. I've often heard it suggested
that that it's a cruel way to separate two teams
at the end of a game like that. I just
don't know that there's a better option. They can't just
keep playing until somebody scores. They need to be separated somehow,

(17:39):
and cruel as it is if you don't have any
skin in the game, if you're a neutral, it's unbelievable entertainment.
And for fans of the two sides, I can't imagine
the emotion that the port would have gone through last
night across the duration of those penalties. If you were
in there, we'd love to hear from you. Oh, eight

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hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number ninety two
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some of your calls after.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
This the biggest names and sport talk to finally Weekend
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Speaker 4 (18:14):
That'd be twelve twenty seven on Weekend Sport. Can I
Chris go very good? Thank you, Chris very good.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Hey.

Speaker 9 (18:23):
I was watching the I'm not a football fan at all.
I have probably in my whole life I'm fifty four,
have watched probably five minutes of football my whole life
in one go. And I was watching the Warriors last
night and I think Parameda scored a try, and as
you do, surfing channels, and I turned it over to
the football and I couldn't turn it back over.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
I got so woked.

Speaker 9 (18:48):
You looked you hooked me in hopl I'm think and
I'm like, I'm sitting there and my partner's like, no,
I can't. I just I love it Monton. So I'm
a Fenix, you know, like anything Willington to win. But
I was throw enthralled in and like when they scored
all those goals of the in the penalty. When I
watched the last ten minutes for the regular time we've

(19:10):
gone the pal I just couldn't. I've turned it able
to see if we scored a try for the Warriors,
and we didn't, and then I thought, I'll go back
and you know, the Warrior's going to finish way after
the football does. Yeah, And when I was just watching
and I was so excited, like I was actually jumping
off my feet when they when that last guy came
up to score the last penalty shot and we'd saved

(19:32):
it and he come up. He had twenty three on
his shorts and he hadn't scored since the year of
twenty twenty three, and Michael Jordan's number is twenty three.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
He was never going to miss serendipity. Chris all the
twenty three, all the twenty threes. How good?

Speaker 9 (19:50):
Yep, I know I thought that was That's just unbelievable.
Now I'm torn in between supporting the Warriors or the Phoenix.
I know, I'm always worried supporter the Phoenix in Auckland
now because I'm just like, well, let's see, it's so amazing.
I actually, fifty four years of my whole life, I've
never watched anything longer than it before.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Well, I'm glad you. I'm glad you came across and
you would have had time to get back to the
Warriors to watch their second half performance. Going to talk
about that after one o'clock on the show today, but yeah, I.

Speaker 9 (20:18):
Most definitely did that.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
What a night for you? What a night for you?

Speaker 10 (20:23):
It was to great night.

Speaker 9 (20:24):
It was like there was actually life changing because I
used to call football soccer because people that played football
have been called soccer. And I have a lot of
friends that played football and I caught soccer because they
hate it. And I'm always like, oh, yeah, soccer, soccer,
and I know it's football. I'm like, whatever, soccer, and
now it makes you going to call it football, Chris,

(20:45):
I love soccer. Soccer's never going to come into my
forkblee ever again now.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Chris, I love it, mate, I love it. I'm so
pleased that we got your cross and you you enjoyed
the experience. Yeah, I mean there's not a lot to
match it as far as drama is concerned. Good to
have your calling and mate, And yeah, I'm glad you
got back to the Warriors in time to see their
second half as well, which was you know, it was
in the balance that game, wasn't it, but the Warriors
coming home for a fourth straight one. Thanks for calling in, Chris,
appreciate it very much. Enjoy the rest of your day, Susan. Hi, Hi,

(21:16):
have it going very good, Susan, Thank you good.

Speaker 11 (21:20):
Honestly, last night, my son this morning said to me
he thought someone was being stabbed in the house from
the yelling.

Speaker 7 (21:28):
That was going on.

Speaker 11 (21:29):
Honestly, I just couldn't believe they played for two hours
and then, like you say, you know, got their heart
rates down to.

Speaker 9 (21:37):
Focus on those penalty shots.

Speaker 8 (21:40):
It's just an incredible game.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
I just don't know how, Susan. It's hard enough. I
reckon it would be hard enough to without playing two hours,
step up and sort of have the wherewithal to put
the ball. But those guys were absolutely spent after two
hours of playing. I know their professional athletes, but even
so to have the clarity of thought that they do
and for thirteen of the fourteen of them to put
the ball in, it's incredible.

Speaker 12 (22:04):
I know.

Speaker 11 (22:05):
What I found interesting. Thing two was how you know,
one team got to choose the end and the other
gate team got to choose who took the penalty first.
And so the the one that took the penalty first
obviously had the advantage because it was a psychological thing.
But then once you got through your first five, then
was actually a disadvantage, don't you think, because then you

(22:27):
had your players that weren't preps so good at penalties,
and then they were going first.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
So it's a good it's a good point. Yeah. So yeah,
there are two tosses of the coin. The first one
is for ends and then and all all the referee
does is if it comes down on that side where
at this end, it comes down on that side, we're
at that end, so no one calls that. The second
one they do call it, and yes, Melbourne City won
that toss and they said we'll go first. But you're
the psychology. You've landed on sous and you're so right,
because five guys say, yep, okay, I'm I'm here for this,

(22:57):
I'm going to take a penalty. I will take one
for you. Once you get through those five, you're getting
to guys who haven't put their hands up initially, and
that goodness me, I mean the psychology of it all,
because you would have got to the point. I spoke
briefly to Michael vowed the Auckland goalkeeper after the game,
because if it had gone much longer, the goalkeepers would
have had to take one.

Speaker 9 (23:18):
All right, true?

Speaker 11 (23:22):
Wow, Yeah, awesome game, amazing game.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
Yeah, high drama. I'm glad. I'm glad. Everybody at your
house is okay. It was just you're yelling at the TV.

Speaker 11 (23:31):
I was like, what, I didn't hear that, and he's like,
no during the game, Mom, okay, I love it, Susan
love it.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
Hey, thanks for calling and great to hear from you.
Thank you so much. Indeed, hopefully we can be more.
There can be more drama. There won't be a penalty
shoot out obviously in the first league of the semi
final this coming weekend, so we don't have to go
through that again. There may be at the end of
the second League. Who knows the Grand Final could be
in the offing as well. It is high drama, huge drama.
Text here from Gavin Jason never watched the game of

(24:00):
football in my life. Last night I was watching the
Blues against mo Onea Pacific and it hadn't quite started,
so I thought I'll watch a bit of Auckland f
see the last fifteen minutes. Well, I was glued to
it or an absolutely fabulous game. I love the cool,
calm pressure that Auckland show. I'm hooked. Good on you, Gavin.
Good to have you along. Ian high.

Speaker 13 (24:22):
Hi.

Speaker 12 (24:22):
I was wondering as an alternative to the penalty shootout
because I honestly believe that it's it's luck if the
goalie saves it, because he has to guess aside, and
if he guesses the right way, he's got a reasonable
chance of saving it. How about something else? Were you
at full time? You then play say two and a

(24:43):
half minute or three minute segments, and you drop one
or two players off from each team, and then that's been.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
No, sorry, that has been. Yeah, that has been. You
know no, it's a good suggestion. I know it's used
in other sports. I think sevens do it, don't they
They drop a player off. But yeah, look it's it's
some they have to be when when there has to
be a winner at the end of the night. Are
you really are manufacturing something, aren't you.

Speaker 12 (25:11):
Yeah, you're trying to give people a bit better chance
of scoring the goal. Really, Yeah? Dropping players off.

Speaker 4 (25:18):
Man, they'll be tired after one hundred and twenty minutes
running on that pitch with eleven and then you're dropping
players off for those remaining ten or nine or whatever
it is, have to cover all that grass.

Speaker 12 (25:28):
Yeah, get a break screen every drop off of twenty
five to thirty seconds. These are elite athletes, had their
pulses dropped pretty quickly.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yep, good point, thanks mate, Thanks for calling in this.
Just on the on the luck element of this as well.
The and goalkeepers. Yes, they really have to guess away.
You can't wait and see, really, because these players are
hitting the ball so hard. You can't just wait and
see if I can get across there. But the research
that goes into it is actually quite detailed. The goalkeeping

(26:01):
coach of both sides would examine all of the potential
penalty takers from the other side, so throughout the week.
Part of the preparation for both of those sides last
night would be okay, if we go to penalties, which
way does each of the players on the other team
typically go when they take a penalty and they can

(26:24):
look back and take it. They've taken ten penalties and
seven of the ten they've gone to the goalkeepers right
and down low to the right, for example, So Michael
Vaut and also Patrick Beach who was in golf in
Melbourne City would have known which way all of the
takers who take the penalties typically go. Now, sometimes it's
a small sample size. I look at a guy like
Nando Pinker, who took Auckland FC's fifth penalty. I've never

(26:47):
seen him take a penalty before, so there's no research
available there. But guys you know who stepped up early
on who are typically penalty takers, Sam Cosgrove, Gizumo May
for Aukland f C, for example, there would be a
body of work to draw upon, and often the goalkeepers
have have notes taped to their water bottles and are

(27:12):
able to refer to them. So there is a bit
of research, a bit of science. It's not all luck,
some of it is, but there is a bit of
science and research behind it.

Speaker 12 (27:21):
Stephen High, Oh, good morning, Jason, how are you great?

Speaker 4 (27:26):
Great? Thank you?

Speaker 14 (27:27):
I rang you a couple of weeks ago, and I'm
the one that adamant that the tracks should be raised
the same as horse tracks. But anyway, that's not the
reason I'm ringing. I set up a letter writing club
a few years ago South Ape. The letter writing club
was a good friend of mine. Once a month we

(27:47):
would choose someone around the world to write to, and
my friend Mark was a very keen Manchester United supporter,
and so he chose Ferguson one month and I chose
somebody else and we got replies every month. They were
handwritten letters, and months Mark the sign and he would

(28:08):
write the set Bladder and at the time set was
obviously in charge and suggests that the set of penalties
they dropped the player off every two or three minutes
or whatever.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
It was.

Speaker 14 (28:21):
Well about about four weeks later we got this envelope
and our post office box from the from FIFA and
was a typed up letter signed by set Bladder and
it said that he had considered that but it was
too dangerous and as much as the players would reach exhaustion,
so they didn't go down that track.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
So there you go, right from the horse's mouth, as
it will well out that time anyway, so set Blatterer. Yeah,
and he makes a good point really because if you
think about taking it, you know, to let's say you
take a take a player off every five minutes. If
there's still no score after you know, twenty minutes, you've
got you know, four people off. You've got seven v
seven on a full time on a full full size pitch.

(29:05):
Meant going to have no petrol left at all? Are they?
So it's actually not a bad point. Yeah, they did
a thing in the sorry Stephen go.

Speaker 15 (29:14):
On, that was said point.

Speaker 14 (29:16):
But I personally feel that the drama from last night,
and you know, I was going to switch over to
the Blues, but of course the Blues had started and
the game hadn't finished, and the drama of the penalty,
well the extra time in fact, when they scored in
the last thirty seconds and took it to extra time
and then the penalty shootout after that, I've never seen

(29:39):
one go.

Speaker 12 (29:40):
To six seven.

Speaker 14 (29:41):
It was just high drama, wouldn't and I could have
gone either way as we all know.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
Yeah, I haven't seen many go that distance either, Steven.
If I'm honest, I've seen a lot of penalty shootouts.
Often you'll get like the first couple of us, you know,
so you don't go past you know, the five. But
the psychology of it has always fascinated me. And once
you go beyond the five, because five, like I say,
five players have said yep, i'll take one, I will

(30:06):
take one. But then once you get beyond those five,
and certainly once you get to I mean, if for example,
you know we're gone past seven, you're down to eight, nine, ten,
you're down to the goalkeepers taking them. You know, it's
just like it's just incredible stuff, you know, and look, thankfully,
I guess for the goalkeepers, we didn't have to get
there last night, Stephen, good on your thanks for your call.

(30:27):
The thing they did, I think it was a major
league soccer in the United States for a while, was
they had I can't remember the name of it, but
instead of a penalty shootout, the player would start with
the ball on halfway and they would dribble towards the goal.
The goalkeeper was in there, and they would try to
beat the goalkeeper by dribbling around them or shooting or whatever.

(30:47):
It was inside thirty seconds. I think that was the
time limit. It was a time limit, and you had
to score before the time limit otherwise, you know, so
it's like a penalty shootout, but I guess an expanded version.
The other one that Rachel has suggested here is golden goal,
which they also had for a way while, so that

(31:07):
any of you whoever scores a goal an extra time
wins the game. As soon as the goal goes in,
that's it, You've won the game. They did that for
a while, but I think the unintended effect of that
was that teams would just sit back because they were
so nervous about conceding, because I think what they thought was, okay,
if if first goal wins, then teams will attack to

(31:31):
try and score that goal. But the unintended consequence was
that team sat back because they were so nervous about
conceding that they weren't adventurous at all. So more often
than not would reach the end of extra time and
have to go to penalties. Anyway, Hello Wayne, hi, hi ya,
good thank you.

Speaker 15 (31:51):
I there's one thing that particular disappointed me about football
is penalty shootouts. Sometimes I think why don't they just
get a coin and toss a coin? But instead of
taking players off, why don't they just remove goalies right
to use his hands.

Speaker 4 (32:14):
So the keeper can't the keeper can't use their hands anymore.

Speaker 15 (32:18):
No, so that they if a goal is scored, it's
been skill on one side or the other, not the
toss of a coin, or you could take you could
take the goal is off altogether. But you should leave
them on as normal players but not goalkeepers.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Interesting approach, way, interesting approach. So the penalty shootout the
reason you don't like it, You feel like you often
hear penalty shootouts are a lottery. That's what you often hear.
Is that that the reason you're not a big fan
of them.

Speaker 15 (32:50):
I mean, if you watch the game and see some
incredible skill to achieve a draw off there's on both sides,
and then it comes down to a penalty shootout, it's
sort of quite hollow.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Yeah, it's and that's why it can be seen as
crawlwayne as well as you're right to get to a
penalty shoot out. Both teams have played one hundred and
twenty minutes of football, two hours of football, and you
know a number of them have been on for the
whole time. Yes, some have been subbed on and off,
of course, But at the end of all of that,
at the end of all that exertion, all of that effort,
all of that skill, as you say, to then have

(33:26):
it decided from twelve yards? As I guess you could say,
you know, you said hollow. I've heard it called crawl.
It's definitely sometimes called a lottery. But as I say,
you've got to separate these teams somehow. Thanks, Wayne, appreciate
you call. Doesn't hockey have a similar penalty decider? Asks Gwinn. Yeah,
same thing you start, you start all the player starts

(33:49):
with the puck and dribbles towards the goal and tries
to score hockey field hockey or that's ice hockey, field hockey,
which you might be talking about, Gwen, Exactly the same. Yeah,
a penalty stroke. They just do stroke. And they actually
know they dribble towards the goal as well, don't they. Yes,
they do, they dribble towards the goal as well. Remember
the the women's Black Sticks lost in the Calm Games

(34:10):
in a in a medal match. Maybe it was the
last games or the one before you got to separate
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Speaker 4 (35:02):
Final Here the key moment last night Michael vowed saving
Melbourne Cities se even penalty from Nathaniel Atkinson. Dan Hall
then scored and through they go. Auckland FC CEO Nick
Becker is with us, where did you watch the penalty
shootout from?

Speaker 10 (35:20):
Well, as this tradition, I go down to the to
the sort of side of the pitch at the end
of the game, you know, to to kind of make
sure everything so finishing up okay. So I'd actually gone
down in the nineteenth minute, think you were going to
win one nill then then City equalize and it's one all.
So I go back up to my seat for another
half hour of extra time, came back down for the
penalty shootout, and I had a very nervous Terence mcflynn,

(35:44):
our football director, sating next to me, and it.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Was a there's a lot of There was a lot
of like kind.

Speaker 10 (35:49):
Of you know, high high pressure, high anxiety, high nerve, nervousness.

Speaker 4 (35:55):
It's I mean, you're almost in the lap of the gods,
aren't you. I mean, there's nothing that Terry mcflynn can do.
There's nothing Steve Courriker can do. There's nothing you can do.
There's nothing anybody can do apart from those guys who
were walking up to the spot to take the penalties
and Michael vaud try to stop them. You know how
how impressed, pleased proud were you of your team last night?

Speaker 10 (36:13):
Immensely, you know, like, and you got to remember, we
haven't had a lot of penalties as a team, just
full stop as a club, and the couple that we've had,
they haven't been that convincing. So you know, the boys
obviously practice them at training, but I was, I was
genuinely nervous, and I haven't seen such a such an

(36:34):
impressive shootout live for for for a long time, if any.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
And yet you know, I I I was over the moon.

Speaker 10 (36:41):
For them that they dug deep to have to play
that long and in such a high paced and and
sort of you know, like kind of high level intensity
of the game and then to step up.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
And put away seven in a row is very impressive.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Quite something. And in front of the port too, that
was a coin toss. I don't think it would have
had quite the same I don't know, excitement drama down
the other end where where you know, there were aren't
any fans. Basically, how important do you think it was
that it was down the port end.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
It was massive and it was literally down to the
fip of the coin.

Speaker 10 (37:13):
I think if it had been the other end, you
probably would have seen the port empty at that end
and run down the other. So but no, it was huge,
and you know why it was. It just added to
the drama and the spectacle of the game. And I thought,
you know, actually that the Melbourne City players stood up
to it as well, and you know they'd score their
pen and run over the port and kind of give

(37:34):
them the shush. So it added to the to the excitement.
It added to the drama and you know the port
you say, we was just massive.

Speaker 4 (37:41):
They were so huge, absolutely brilliant. So you focus now
shifts as a football club, the football players and the
coaching staff start preparing for a two legged semi final
against Adelaide, the first league of which is next weekend,
next Saturday night at six o'clock. How quickly does your
focus now shift to filling the stadium for that game.

Speaker 10 (38:00):
We already it started last night, so you know we're
talking to everyone from NRF to see if they can
reschedule the games to earlier kickoffs in the local leagues
so football fans who are playing on Saturday can come
to the game. You know, we've already gone, We've got
everything ready for that. There's a members pre sale that
starts at nine am tomorrow morning, Monday morning to that

(38:21):
run through till four pm and then they're on sale
to everybody, all Auckham football fans, all ukamb their seed
fans really and we would love.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
To see that place full and rocking. You know it was.

Speaker 10 (38:32):
It was a shame last night didn't have a great
crowd and I sort of understand it.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
It was a four day turnaround.

Speaker 10 (38:37):
It was an elimination final that nobody really expected us
to be in.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
But we are now in the semi final.

Speaker 10 (38:43):
We now have a chance to push through and go
through to our first ever Grand Final, and if fortune favors,
that could even be back in Auckland. So to see
a packed go media like we filled it out in
the season, like we filled out last season, would be
fantastic And I really would love to see all of
our fans there.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Absolutely, the players. You know, you often ear players to
say once they're out on the grass, they don't you
hear what's going on outside the white lines. But I'm
reasonably sure Nick, that a packed crowd at home helps,
doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
Absolutely? And the players they notice and they feed off it.

Speaker 10 (39:19):
They I mean, they're sure when they're on there and
they're playing the game, that's what their sole concentration is.
But you see them get lifted like you know, you
saw it last night, even with that pack South stand
in the pork they lifted our boys. You saw Hiroki's efforts,
right than he's someone who feeds off the crowd, and
so you know that they the fans, if they everyone
calls them the twelfth Man and that type.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
I think it's actually true.

Speaker 10 (39:42):
They play an immense part in any game, and you know,
I'm sure they'll come along that Saturday.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
So members can purchase from nine o'clock tomorrow morning and
then anybody can get a ticket from four o'clock tomorrow afternoon.
The game is next Saturday, six o'clock kickoff as you
take on Adelaide United in the first League of the
semit a highly dramatic, emotion filled night last night. Let's
hope there's a couple of more to come for Aukland
FC before the end of the season.

Speaker 17 (40:07):
Things.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Thanks for joining us absolutely cheers. Thanks mate, No it
speaks so Nick. Thanks indeed Nick Micker their CEO of
Auckland f C. So the ago members can get tickets
from nine tomorrow morning and then from four o'clock tomorrow
afternoon anybody can buy one. Next Saturday, six o'clock is
the first League of Auckland f C semi final against
Adelaide United. Peter says, I think in the past in
the FA Cup in England a whole new game was

(40:28):
played after a draw. Yeah, they used to have replace Peter,
even for FA Cup finals. I remember there were replays
for a while, and then I think the schedule just
got a bit congested and they couldn't do it. And
that certainly is the case with the A League. They
have to play, you know, on a on a scheduled date,
so they do have to have a winner underwater hockey,
says Mike. They have golden goal, no time limit, rotating

(40:49):
subs an interesting approach. Seven Away from One US TALKSB.

Speaker 1 (40:55):
The biggest names and sport are here. Weekend Sport with
Jason Vine News talks MB.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Four to one. Just mopping up on the football. Liam
Gillian was outstanding, says this text A breath of share
when he came on. Give the man a new contract
in a starting position. I agree he did add a
lot Liam Gillian when he came on A Chris says
Poney with pens. I'd love to see the stutter step
run up band. Once you start moving forward, then that's it.
It tips the odds heavily in the favor of the
penalty taker. Chris, I does my head on that stuff.

(41:23):
Just run up and kick it, you know, all the
sort of dozy dough shuffle back and forth, stut a step, stop,
start running again. More often than not it actually distracts
the penalty taker, but you make a good point. After
one o'clock, joined in studio by two of the Harlem Globetrotters.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
The only place for the big names, the big issues,
the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on
Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your home of Sport
News Talks NB.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Yes, it is good afternoon one seven. I'm Jason Pine.
Welcome into the show. This is Weekend Sport on News Talks.
Heb until three o'clock this afternoon. We're talking worry is
this our James mconey is for his regular Sunday chat
as well, But what a treat to start us off
this hour. Not just basketball players, global entertainers, record breakers,
pioneers of the game. Celebrating one hundred years of dazzling

(42:18):
crowds around the world, the Harlem Globe Trotters are bringing
their signature mix of skill, humor and showmanship back to
New Zealand in July. Christ Church, Wellington, Auckland and Hamilton.
Will give your ticket details at the end of the chat.
But right now two of the stars are in the
country spreading the word. We've got Kaylin at Sunshine West
with us and Alex Moose Weeks. Good to see you guys.

(42:40):
How you doing Toyota from te fung Utata. I love it, Moose,
I love it. You've only been practicing that for the
last fifteen minutes. He got it, bang on, You got
it bang on.

Speaker 18 (42:50):
We've got big adaha for all of our fans and
our teda.

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Or so good so at all, not at all, but yeah,
we've got a lot of attaha for you as well,
a lot of love for you guys as well. One
hundred years of Globe Trotter's history have Spatial Sunshine does
at Field to be part of the one hundred years
of this incredible organization.

Speaker 8 (43:14):
Amazing.

Speaker 19 (43:14):
It's like a dream, but you're walking in real life.

Speaker 16 (43:17):
It feels like.

Speaker 19 (43:19):
I'm a super woman. You know. One hundred years ago
the Globe Trotter started, but we didn't have any women.
We didn't have any women. So a little later and
so in nineteen eighty five when we had our first
female Lynnette Woodard, and you know, now I'm one of six.
They get to represent an organization and just kind of
show women that are little girls, that we can do anything,
that the sky is the limit. You know that we
can be out there with these guys and we.

Speaker 16 (43:39):
Can do what they do.

Speaker 19 (43:40):
We can do the same tricks, the same ball handling things,
shoot the same shots, and we could do it in
our own style, our own flare, own flavor, and make
it look good too.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
What is your basketball, Jenny? How did it begin and
how did it bring you to hear it to the
Globe Trotters.

Speaker 19 (43:52):
Yes, I started playing basketball in probably about seventh grade,
and then I ended up making a career out of that,
and I played five years of Division I basketball in
the States. I went to Coastal Carolina for four years
and Georgetown for a year, and then I was the
assistant director of Boswell Operations at Georgetown for a year,
and I kind of got the hite, just wanted to
play again. So I started to train to play professionally overseas,

(44:14):
and in the midst of it, I ran into a
recruiter for the Globe Trotters who invited me to a
try out in Atlanta, Georgia. And yeah, it obviously worked
out because now here I am in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Hey, well, yeah, what about you tell us about your
journey to other's point?

Speaker 18 (44:26):
Oh Man, well, I started off terrible. Was I was
growing fast and my feet were growing faster than the
rest of my body, so they called me the human room.
I tripped over my feet every time I tried to
bounce the ball, and then, you know what, I didn't
let that discourage me. So I worked and worked, and
you know, I was a top ranked player in high school.

(44:47):
Went to MTSU, which is Middle Tennessee State University, and
I played the charity game against some former Globe Trotters
and NBA players.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
They said, hey, you need to be with us.

Speaker 18 (44:55):
And you know, sixteen years later, I'm still traveling the
globe doing what I love, entertaining millions of fans all
across the globe. I've been to sixty three countries and
and you know, this year has just been an amazing
field with all kind of cool side quests. You know,
also like coming here to promote the upcoming tour. So
it's been a blast and a blessing to just be

(45:17):
a part of such a legendary organization.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
That does some travel schedule you've had, the Globe Trotters
have played an I have one hundred and twenty countries.
The Ambassadors Ambassadors of Goodwill. I love that. I love that.
Do you feel that responsibility when you step on the court.

Speaker 19 (45:32):
Yeah, But I think that's what makes my job the
job that it is. I think that's what makes it
the best job in the world. That we're not necessarily
going out there trying to worry about if we're going
to win or lose. We know we're gonna win just
because you know, we're the best team, you know, and
by the end of the day, we're out there to
make sure we put a smile on your face and
we leave you with a memory to walk away for.
So it's bigger than basketball. So what you know, like

(45:52):
you said, ambassadors at good Will. So to be able
to do something that's like that, you know, it's like
a soul a soul feeling type type of job.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
So yeah, where does the drive to cape in inviting
come from? Because you think you think you've seen it
all and they you say the holem glob trotters, and
you realize you haven't seen it all. How strong is
the drive to keep innoviting us? Well, you know, you've
got to know your history, you got to know where
you came from to know where you're going. So with
that being said, watching all of the greats from the past,
and then you when you come in, you learn from

(46:22):
your vets. So iron sharp is iron.

Speaker 18 (46:25):
We are constantly challenging each other to do something better
than what we've done, or you know, coming up with
new moves, new tricks, and you know, we put a
lot of effort into practicing these things. You know, when
you see us do it, you know we're trying to
be as close to perfect as we can be. But
you don't know. We might have spent a couple of

(46:46):
years just perfecting one trick before we actually put it
out there in front of you fans. So you know,
this is our pride and we we really like to
hold that torch high and keep it going because we're
trying to set the stage for another hundred years.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
That was something I was very keen to hear about
because people say the tricks the Fine Way ten up
and watch it and we see the show man, it's amazing.
How to mind thing?

Speaker 20 (47:08):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Physically and mentally? I guess there's wall to perform at
that level, not after.

Speaker 19 (47:12):
Not Yeah, I mean, like you said, physically and demanding
it can be tough, But what makes it worth it?
What you don't even think about in those moments because
somebody's there that night. It might be there one time
where they can see us, there one time in a
lifetime where they can see us. Where you don't even
worry about that ache and pain that you have going
on in your bones and your muscles. You're just going
out there and on that. When you walk through that tunnel,
you're like you're activating, and you have a job to do,

(47:33):
and like you want to make sure that you do
it to your best ability, no matter how you're feeling.

Speaker 4 (47:37):
The full point show, let's become iconic. A lot of
practice has to go onto that surely.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
Oh absolutely.

Speaker 18 (47:43):
And this day and age, you see everybody trying to
shoot the long range threes, like Steph Curry just go
ahead and step out to that four point line, but
you know it's thirty five feet away from the basket.
And the Philippine Professional League they actually have adopted the
four point line, which I think is amazing. But that
just goes to show we are still innovators of the

(48:05):
game of basketball. It started out showing you guys alley
oops and all of the trick passes and everything, and
now to see where basketball has gone, and how it's
growing in New Zealand, how it's growing just all over
the world. It's a beautiful thing because you might not
speak the same language, but when you get to bounce
in that ball or you know, especially spinning the ball

(48:26):
on a finger, you see an adult turned to a kid,
You see a kid eyes light up and you see
the look on their parents' face like, oh man, you know,
Billy is shy and they're not they might not want
to do and then Billy's already spending the bar on
his finger. So you know, those kind of moments are
so special to us.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
Yeah, what I mean, what a way to spend your
time and to bring such joy to people because you're
not just basketball applies, you're entertainers as well. Always aware
of the of the balance between the two things.

Speaker 16 (48:54):
Yeah, I think so, I think.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
So what do you do? Like I mean, in terms
of crowd you know, crowd participation. You're happy to go
in and you're always you know, getting getting people involved,
as are they normally willing participants, Like I'm along knowing
that this might be part of the deal.

Speaker 19 (49:11):
Yeah, And I think that's one of my favorite parts too.
I have a moment in the show where I get
to bring a little girl on the court and have
a little I'm not gonna tell you too much, but
I do a little special moment with her on the
court if she's brave enough, which usually they are.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
So yeah, yeah, good, Sorry, Okay, Sunshine and moch tell
us about the nicknames and where they came from.

Speaker 19 (49:26):
Yeah, a Sunshine. I think they called me sunshine just
because anywhere I go you can't.

Speaker 16 (49:30):
Dim my light.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
You know, any about seven minutes and it's already brought
her right here. What about you, mos?

Speaker 18 (49:37):
Well, you know they call me moose because I eat
like one, not because I look like one. But I
like to think of a moose as a large, powerful animal,
dare I say majestic, known for its temperament. I'm a large,
powerful man, angry dunker. But after I dunk, I do
smile after a little celebration. But my teammates used to say,

(50:01):
when I was in the air, my hair looked like moosehandlers.
So you know, the more you try to combat a nickname,
the more it sticks, especially out here.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
Well, I'm very jealous of the heir, as you can tell.
I couldn't get anything close to what you've managed to
do but like channeling your inner curve. That's exactly right.
A lot of fans will be coming along for the
first time to say the Holm glob Trotters, So you
know what would you decide to to really convince them to,
you know, to say, yeah, you know, I'm thinking about it.
I am gonna guy.

Speaker 18 (50:31):
Yeah, hey, hey, let me tell you I've been waiting
for this question. All right, y'a all ready, y'all listen up. Okay,
when you come to a Harlem glow Trotter game, you're
not just coming to a basketball game. Once again. We
are celebrating one hundred years. So this is a one
hundred year party in the making, and y'all are invited.
You're gonna see high flying dunks. You're gonna see a

(50:51):
lot of flair. I believe y'all call it minor. You're
gonna feel it floating in the building. Because we come
to party, we come to play, we come to entertain,
and we come to show off what we got the
ball handling, the four point shots, and you know we're
gonna go in the stands. Some people might not be
as willing as others, but you're gonna get out on
that court, and you never know what's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
You might share a little dance with us, or you
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(53:09):
tour of New Zealand in July. A dominant display, a
statement score line, and a team starting to turn potential
into real performance. Of course, we're talking about the Warriors.

Speaker 21 (53:20):
Lab in the dummy Heath boyd fuck Paris Devina Hea.
It goes toa says check, Yes, Sir Roger tu of
Us says, Scheck gets a try. This has been a
professional finish from the professional team.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
The Warriors are bearing the paramatter reel.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
Heah, the new Zilla Warriors powering past the Eels thirty
six fourteen last night, running and six tries, finishing full
of energy after the game was still in the balance
midway through the second half. Kind of win that doesn't
just get your two points, but sends a message to
the rest of the competition. You'd have to think to
break it all down. We're joined by veteran rugby league
journalist Brad Walter. Brad Overall, how do you evaluate the Warriors'

(54:01):
performance last night and picking up their fourth straight win?

Speaker 7 (54:05):
Yeah, very impressive actually the way they finished the game. Yeah,
like as you said it was. It was in the
balance midway through the second half. It was eighteen fourteen
and Paramatta had a bit of momentum and they were
coming back. But then then you know the try by
Jackson Ford set up by Aaron Clark, which was I
think in the sixty fourth minute. That just that changed

(54:27):
the tone and then and then the Warriors romped home.
Their backs are scoring all the some you know, fantastic
tries through through Roger two of us check and carn
Perreira and Dulan with Ken He's so Leslie act on
the wings out wide, but it's really their forwards as
that are laying the platform. You know, James Fisher, Harris

(54:48):
leading the way obviously as a captain, veteran Clark. It's
been outstanding all season. Has is Jackson Ford who honestly,
Jackson's been around for a long time. I mean, I'm
from a longong, Jackson from a longong. I remember him
coming through the grades at the Dragons, et cetera. But
I've I could not imagine he'd be have a season
like he's having this year. He he's got to be
he I think he's in the New South Wales origent

(55:09):
him like he's the form front rower of the competition.
He's leading the dally M points, he's he's just had
an incredible year and he just backs a that week
after week and he's obviously reveling off playing against James Fisher,
trap playing with James Fisher, Harris, Mitch Barnett and Darren Clark.
But yeah, as I said, the Warriors forward pack there,
that's the most dominant forward pack in the competition. And

(55:30):
it's really exciting to watch them players, really enjoyable to
watch them players. They're not just running hard and making meters.
They're offloading their their ball playing there, they're setting up
the attack and then they're scoring.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Trice absolutely well. I mean, you've summed it up brilliantly, Brad,
because if you if you didn't see the game and
you looked at the at the scoreline and then looked
at the try scores, you say, as you say, Okay,
camp Parreira has got a couple of tries, a couple
more tries. What Dennis Leslie at Roger two of us
to check. The backs are obviously playing brilliantly, but they
can't score those tries, can they? Without the likes of
Ford for sher Harris Clark. They just seem so integral

(56:00):
to the side at the moment.

Speaker 7 (56:01):
The middles, yeah, like I said, they're the best middles
in the in the competition, and and they're doing it
every week against you know, against you know, all sorts
of opposition. You know, they did it last week against
the Dolphins. They did it because they did it against
the Eels. And you know, the Eels have got a
decent forward pack, know that they're they're outstanding. And then

(56:24):
you know then in the backs and another guy, you know,
like a Tanner Boyd, he is having a season again.
Like I thought, he was a backup half back the Titans.
The Titans moved him mine and he went to the Warriors.
He was pretty much there to be the backup for
Luke Metcalf. Now Andrew Webster's got a huge dilemma and
like last night he had Metcalf on the bench and
he couldn't get him on and he's you know, Chanel

(56:47):
Harris Tavita is playing outstanding as well. In the halves.
The spine is really working. And they're without Sharan's Nickel
Klo's dad, They're without Luke Metcalf. They're without Mitch Barnett
in the front row. But you know they're missing some
key players or you know who have been out injured,
and those players mostly are ready to come back. And

(57:07):
I'm not sure. I mean, if I'm Andrew Webster, I'm thinking,
do I want to make a change, And you know,
I don't know. Maybe he will just be patient, bide
his time or make them by their time, and you
know the opportunities will arise no either. You know, they
will lose some games and maybe form will drop off,
or there will be injuries or suspensions or whatever, and
those players will get an opportunity. But Jesus hard to

(57:31):
be hard for him to change a team that's playing
so well.

Speaker 4 (57:33):
Absolutely, And I guess they say, don't they top coaches
are that these are the problems we want. We want
headaches of a selectorial type. And you're right, how do
you get Luke Metcalf back in the team. How do
you get you know, guys when they come back all
all on the park. It's a strong uniform brand, you
know for in row by next week or two more
points coming then Magic Ram when they'll take on the Broncos,
which will be another great clash when do we start

(57:56):
talking about the Warriors as a genuine twenty twenty six contender.

Speaker 7 (58:01):
Well, look, I was that was at the game in
Wellington last weekend and there was a guy sitting a
couple of rows in front of me, and every time
they scored a try, he held up a banner that said,
this is our year. So I reckon, we're already talking
about it, and like people, we should be talking about
it because it's been They've been the most consistent them
and the Panthers sorry, have been the most consistent teams

(58:23):
in the in the competition a year. That game against
the Broncos is going to be an absolute cracker. Sun
Corps Stadium, Magic Ground that joined to be full. But
you know, even last night the Warriors had a lot
of supporters at Paramatta. So wherever they play now and
as I said, it was in Wellington that was their
biggest crowd, the biggest home crowd the Warriors have had
since twenty twelve so and the third biggest in history

(58:45):
of the Warriors. And you know it was in Wellington,
which isn't I wouldn't. I don't really consider to be
regular league Hartly and but jeez, there was just a
buzz in the whole city during the day. There were
people walking around everywhere in Warriors gears. I went to
a lower hut to the shopping center and people were
queued up when the shops opened to buy merchandise and

(59:05):
it was all all out. There's a real vibe and
a real buzz wherever the Warriors play. It has said
that I can't wait for Magic Ground Warriors versus Broncos,
you know, the Premiers against you know one of the
teams that we're definitely talking about is being Premiership contenders
this year.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Absolutely, Look, I'm looking forward to it as well. I
can have to be headed over there. So yeah, that
Sunday night or Sunday afternoon early evening game between the
Warriors and the Broncos looks like the one of the
best games of the weekend. But it just all I've
got to the Melbourne Storm. The Melbourne storm. We know,
obviously Craig Bellamy is going through some very very worrying
health issues, but the storm on the field was it

(59:44):
Seven losses in a row. Now, this is remarkable given
their pedigree.

Speaker 7 (59:49):
It's the biggest, the longest losing streak in the club's history.
Now the loss to the Dolphins the other night and
looked I were in that game for most of it,
but they fell away and the Dolphins really finished over
the top of them. I suppose a little bit like
the Warriors and the Eels last night, it's hard put
your finger on. They've still got some of the best
players in the game in Jerome Hughes and Cameron Munster

(01:00:11):
and Harry Grant, no doubt, and those guys aren't performing
at their best, which which which the Storm really need
them to this year. The Storm's forward pack. We we
talked about the Warriors forward pack. The Storm's forward pack
looks just looks. You don't look up to it. They
certainly not in that category. And you know, Craig Bellamy

(01:00:32):
to try and make some changes this week. He dropped,
he moved his back row to the bench and bought
guys off the bench into the back row to the
starting back round. And I think that sort of sums
up the problem that he's got. He doesn't have the
depth the strength of players. And the Storm has lost.
They lost, you know, some key players. I suppose they
lost Nelson a Sopha Solomona. They lost Ryan Pappenhausen, Joanah

(01:00:57):
Pezzant went to the Eels. There's probably one or two
other guys that I haven't thought of my head. But
then they've also also lost will to Kama Kamika has
had the stroke, had a stroke, so he's out, probably
won't play again this season. Eli Katoa as well. And

(01:01:18):
you know, so that's there's some key players that are
missing from from the Storm side of last season and
they haven't really replaced those guys, and you know, and
it looks like Xavier Coach is out injured. There's some
other injuries in outside your Rome Hughes didn't play the
other night. Yeah, So, like, I just think they don't
have the depth that they've had him previous years, and
the big name players like Munster really aren't stepping up

(01:01:41):
to sort of to take control. I've got no doubt
that will change. Craig Bellamy, Craig Bilum is also going
through health issues.

Speaker 22 (01:01:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:01:49):
You know, everyone says that the storm, say that it's
business is usual and hasn't affected Craig, but it's not.
Everyone's worried about him as well. So, yeah, it's uncharted
territory for the for the storm. They said they've never
lost seven in a row, and they don't really look
like they're about to win a game. You know, you
put a line through them for the finals at the moment,

(01:02:09):
but it is the Melbourne Storm, so anything's possible. I
don't know, it's sort of it's funny because like they've
been so dominant for so long, and I think people
are almost sick of the Storm. They have been the
most dominant team in the last twenty years, and I
think people are sort of like, you know, probably initially
please to see them fall off a little bit, but

(01:02:30):
how we're actually thinking, what's going on? When are they
going to start to win? They're two good a team,
too good a club, got too good a coach and
too many good players to be sitting at the bottom
of the table for too long. But there doesn't seem
to be any any light in the at the end
of the tunnel at the moment.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
No those problems for the Warriors. They joined top on
points with the Panthers, and the Rooster's Panthers play manly
but later on tonight so they could jump two points
clear the Warriors for the buy next week before Magic Round.
Brad always love chatting Rugby league with you mate. Thanks
for taking the time as always, no worry speaking again soon. Yeah,
look forward to that. Brad. Thanks and they Brad Walter there.
It's one thirty one, so cansec it wins over the Storm,

(01:03:08):
the Titans, the Dolphins and now the Eels. Four on
the trot for the Warriors.

Speaker 23 (01:03:13):
Hello Allen Heah, Hello Jason. Look very impressive when for
the Warriors last night in an area perhaps that we
don't give a lot of consideration too. And I just
thought in that, particularly the second half, they were so patient.
They just did what they had to do. They did

(01:03:33):
the grind, they kept Paramatta out and I was very
impressed that too late tries sort of spoke perhaps to
a bit of superior fitness against against the Paramatta Eels.
But they've certainly come of age. It brings me to
this point. The two games that we've lost were when
our noted players, the ones that have been missing for

(01:03:55):
a while Metcalfe and Barnett and Nokaure came back into
the team and we lost. And then the following week
Barnett was there and so was metcalf and we lost.
And I had a bit of concern in that I
wonder if the return of those key players, if you like,

(01:04:22):
into the side perhaps put the rest of the team,
especially the younger ones, sort of put them back in
their shell a little, because we're back to the sort
of the team that won the first three games.

Speaker 24 (01:04:36):
No significant.

Speaker 23 (01:04:39):
Player in the team. Fisher Harris Ford, you can't say,
because he's just come to light so far this season.
He's been absolutely brilliant. Try a little exercise next time
they play, try a little exercise. Think about I'm going
to watch everything that Jackson Ford does. I'm going to
follow him to the detriment of the rest of the team.

Speaker 15 (01:05:00):
Just see what he does.

Speaker 23 (01:05:01):
You would be amazed how far that by travels. I'd
love to put p Demeter on him. He just roams
from one side of the paddock to the other. And
we know his aggressive ball carrying. He's tops the tackle
count game after game after game for the Warriors. It's incredible.

(01:05:21):
But he seems to fit in with the rest of
them so well. I'm not denigrating Barnett and I'm certainly
not denigrating Metcalf, but so far we seem to have
found a way to play that suits the team that's
been there the first three rounds and been there this
last couple of rounds and we've won with that team.

(01:05:42):
And I think it's a little bit like West's at
the moment. Wests have got a very young team and
they're full of enthusiasm. They're doing the business, and that's
exactly what the Warriors are reflecting. I think the Wests
are very big danger this season.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
I really do.

Speaker 23 (01:05:58):
They're paying such good football. Long may we play good
football too, because I think we've got the youngsters there
and they're doing the job.

Speaker 4 (01:06:08):
It's a very very good point, Ellen, It is such
a good point. And I don't think these two things
are related. But the only two games that Luke Metcalf
has played for the Warriors this season have resulted in defeats.
It's not his fault, of course it's not, but yeah,
since then he obviously had to dip out again for
a second injury. You're right, the last four games, you know,

(01:06:29):
we've been without a couple of big, big players like Metcalf.
Barnett came back in for a bit and then he's
hurt himself again. Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:06:37):
Just yes.

Speaker 4 (01:06:38):
He makes such a good point that I wonder whether
when Metcalf is available again, and by the sounds of things,
he is Andrew Webster might just bide his time a
little bit more. They say you shouldn't change a winning team,
don't they. It's a truism in sport, and so why
would you change what's working so well? If you've won
four games in a row, you just roll them out again,
don't you.

Speaker 23 (01:06:59):
Well, I think so. I mean that the argument is there,
isn't it. I mean, there's nothing wrong with Barnett, Metcalfe
and those other players near Corley. He's been a revelation
since he turned up. When you think that the Warrior's
team has made up a lot of players that came
to us that were let go by the clubs they
were with, it's astounding, really, and yet how they've turned out,

(01:07:23):
You know, Andrew Webster is he's got to be a
top coach to be able to get those guys to
perform at the level they're consistently performing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
It great point. Allen Alafiana Carpereira is the latest example
of what you've just said. He was at the Titans.
I'm not sure what happened there. He got out of
his deal and came over here, had to buy his time.
He didn't go straight into the team. Obviously he had
to had to wait. But he's played the last four
games and they've won the last four games. Again, the
two things might not necessarily be absolutely related, but you

(01:07:53):
can't deny that since he's come and what six tries
in four games? Roger Twi Varsischik has moved into the centers.
I like him there, you know, so then you think, okay, well,
Ali l'atao when he is back in there, where does
he go? Was there last week? Wasn't he? Adam Pompey.
So many options for Andrew Webster, but the problems that
coaches say they want to have. Thanks Allen, really good points,

(01:08:17):
well made, mate, look forward to chatting Warriors with you again. Jason.
I'm loving the work that Aaron Clark brings to the field.
Says this text. He is such a machine.

Speaker 22 (01:08:24):
He is.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
But Jackson Ford, goodness, gracious me, he is a robot.
That guy is unbelievable this season. Jackson Ford, he started
every single game regularly, tops a lot of the key metrics.
Is he did Brad say he's top of the Delian voting?
Did I hear that right? And you can confirm that
I think he's top of the Delian I got in
my you that he is absolutely top of the delim

(01:08:46):
voting at the moment. So you know, has to be
in the New South Wales origin picture has to be,
has to be Frank, Hello.

Speaker 6 (01:08:55):
Good a piney. My starlings are nesting. They want a
few more young ones for the flock.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
I love your bird analogies with and I know you're
always going to bring some as ornithological as that birds.
I'm not sure you always bring such a lovely turn
of phrase.

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
I yeah, last night, let's love the boys that the physicality,
the vigor, the brilliant at times. They're brilliant at times,
but they've got a few lapses on defense and offense
that need to be arrested, arrested addressed. If we are
to go deep into the competition. I think there's but

(01:09:34):
I'd just like to make one or two points the
pairings Valmonger and Hall of Sema that I consider those
the two wrecking balls, although we've got wrecking balls in
the form of Clark and the Fisher Harris and so
those two boyd and of course Harris DaVita. I mean,

(01:09:58):
that's a great pairing and the same met if we
can play metcalf I don't know why they don't play
in the second theme in the new Southwest Wales team.
Give him a couple of goes in there and get
him match fit and then bring him into the to
our main force. But yeah, and of course are two

(01:10:20):
flying wingers, I mean the Zells and that coming god
the man with the like the mobile man with the
flying locks. And of course you've got you've got this
other new guy. What's his name, Caerera.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
Yeah, Carperreira. That's Alfiana, Camperira. A lot of hyphenated names
on this team that take a long time to say, Frank,
but no, you're right, I mean Camperrera on one wing,
wa ten is Alisnik on the other two I Vasak
and Harris Tavita feeding them from inside. Gee, we look good,
we we we really do.

Speaker 6 (01:10:52):
Yeah, we really do plenty And as I say, well,
is that Bronco match in what in two weeks time?
I did hear some commentators mentioned that they said we
we are now if we if we win l last night,
which we did, we've only got to win another five
games and we are assured of being in the top eight.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Well, isn't it nice to have that, have that clarity, Frank?
And in previous years you get to the point where
you've got to win your last six to win. It's
one of those where you say, it's mathematically still possible
if they win their last six, if they only have
to win another six to make the eight, then happy days.
But there has to be a base level now, doesn't it.
This is the top four side surely always good chatting
to your Frank thinks. Indeed, Hello, Paul, good.

Speaker 25 (01:11:39):
Afternoon, poney. Yeah, they gut a couple of calls. But
regarding you know the conundrum that Web has, you're, like
you said, it is a good conundrum to have if
you look at if you look across you know, some
of the other teams. It's take Melbourne Storm for example.
You know, look at look at the lack of they
have and they're really struggling, and you look at the
Dragons and so forth.

Speaker 22 (01:11:59):
So we're very very.

Speaker 25 (01:12:01):
Fortunate we've got guys that can just step up. I
mean there were guys missing, so they Barney, you know,
Ali and when went off Tennisdalis, Smith wasn't there, Metcalf
wasn't there. So what a good position to be and
that's where you want to be.

Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
Oh absolutely. And I saw the there was a guy
on debut last night who I don't think he'd played
or Daboo this season anyway any yet am or two
other Again, the depth of being able to bring in
a guy at that, like I say, Luke Metcalfe was
in the reserves. Obviously didn't make the make the seventeen,
but it just seems to be a next man up

(01:12:35):
mentality at this club, Paul, which which is the hallmark
of a lot of good teams.

Speaker 25 (01:12:39):
Absolutely, and I think that's a major reason why Penals
were so successful four premierships in a row. They just
had well, first of all, they had they didn't have
that many injuries during the season. They were able to
feel relatively the same siety every game, and they have
so many juniors coming through, which we're fortunate they have
at the moment as well, so you know everything.

Speaker 24 (01:12:59):
Is lining up.

Speaker 25 (01:13:00):
But I just thought guys like Case and Roger Trey
Vasus Shep last night, you know, the older guys. There
was a kick chase that Roger and Kirk Caple chased,
and I think it was in the seventy eighth minute,
they chased it from one end of the field down
to the other. They were the first people down there,
just to show the young guys you know, you never
give up seventy eight minutes. You know they're thirty or

(01:13:21):
years old, and they chased their ball as hard as
they could. So with that sort of leadership and the
team and the buzz you know around the young guys
like Demetric coming off the back fence. Poor didn't walker.
He had a rough night, but it's fantastic mate.

Speaker 4 (01:13:36):
Up the wise Paul, up the wise brother.

Speaker 22 (01:13:38):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:13:39):
Good to talk to you, Paul. As always, it's eighteen
away from two Back in a sec with James mcconey
in as regular Sunday slot.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
No DMO, no DRS, just your call on eight hundred
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Speaker 4 (01:13:53):
There'd be one forty five on Sundays. We chat to
a man who would always step up and take a
penalty in a shootout. James mcconey, good afternoon.

Speaker 24 (01:14:02):
Oh wow, Pioney, that penalty shootout. Good afternoon you and
your listeners. That was that was stressful, and to be honest,
I wasn't feeling great about life because there were some
great penalties top bins, especially from the Melbourne boys.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
I thought the same thing. I thought, this is going
to end in tears. Jesse Randall had gone off and
I thought, this is he's not going to play for
Auckland again because he's off of course to Scotland to play.
He had to watch from the sideline. I thought, you know,
they're not going to win the game. But Auckland's penalties
were good too.

Speaker 24 (01:14:34):
You know, we were sending up defender's pony and you
were giving out the stats live on Sky going, yeah,
he's never scored a goal, scored goal terrible. I was going,
cheers Pioney, great stats.

Speaker 4 (01:14:51):
But holding their nerve though, holding their nerve and Michael
Voud were that safe. Isn't goalkeeping funny? A You know,
wasn't that long ago that Michael vald was villified for
that era he made which gave up a goal in
the game. He couldn't get down the tunnel fast enough.
He was dropped back in the side and and he
was out there last night an hour after full time,
still signing autographs.

Speaker 24 (01:15:10):
Well, I know, and you know what, I'm not blaming
Michael Vald for anything, because even the goal right and
at the end of regulation time was a fault of
the defenders. There were we left our shortest guy on
the on the on the back post, and I'm sure
any coach anywhere in the world would say, you just
don't do that, you know, so little Callon Elliott was

(01:15:31):
battling not only the go the goal scorer, but also
their goalie who probably would have scored as well, So
there was some atonement needed. And I think Dan Hall,
who was left sort of marking nobody in the middle
of the of the goal mouth, it was quite nice
that he was fitting that he slotted the winning penalty,
although Hierarchi Sakai, the captain, I think his came off

(01:15:53):
the underside of the bar, Is that right, poney?

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Yeah, yeah, definitely had some woodwork. You could hear on
the effects absolutely.

Speaker 22 (01:15:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:15:59):
Oh my goodness, yeah, good stuff. Well we're through. We're through.
I mean they are.

Speaker 4 (01:16:03):
Through, they are through. No we can say we are
through Auckland f C fans will say that double leggers,
see me coming up and then so what that meant
was I didn't get back to watch the start of
the Warriors game, but I watched the second half, which
I think was the better half, and the Warriors win again.

Speaker 24 (01:16:20):
Yeah, they do win again. I've got to say these
Ossie commentators, whether it's Blocker or was it Dan Nain
last night, they've quite you can feel sense their antipathy
towards the Warriors. They're sort of negative, aren't they. They
just sort of saying, oh, the Warriors are winning easier
now it's close games. And then they ended up winning
by twenty two points, thanks very much. And even they

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called one of the set of six cumbersome and straight
away at the end of that set of six, Roger
two varsis shek scores? So okay, mate, whatever you're seeing.
I can feel the OSSI is getting a little bit
annoyed at how well the Warriors are doing. But we
do need to talk about can't Paderia Padera. He's I
noticed that you and your listeners are loving his workout.

Speaker 23 (01:17:01):
On the wing.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Oh, I absolutely loving his work and a guy who
I guess a lot of people probably weren't that familiar
with when he turned up from the Titans. Yes, he's
been playing for a couple of seasons in the NRL,
but turned up relatively unheralded, had to buy his time,
wasn't a first choice. He's had four games now, got
six tries and has got that that top end speed
that you need out there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:17:22):
I do like our team with that extra bit of
zip in there because with Taine Toy Picky at fullback,
you know, no shade on nickel clock start. I just
think with him there, having someone that quick setting things up.
He's also the second fastest at the play the ball
after James Fisher Harris from the starting line lineup anyway,
so that speed gets up quick. He plays a ball quick.

(01:17:45):
He's hard to pin down. That's tane at the back.
Can't put out that outside him. Just greaking havoc out there.
You can see the alarm bells and actually that's what
Roger I think looks so good. It sent it because
people know they have to Mark, can't padel, There's no
way you can just leave them. So Roger, it's freed

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him up. He ran for one hundred and ninety nine meters.
None of those would kick returns, so there's no free
meters there. And of course when you go up front
of the workhorses, as Jackson Ford fifty tackles.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
Oh my goodness, incredible. Just before we move to Ipswich Town,
there's been a question on text what if if a
person with a hyphenated surname, Maury's a person with a
hyphenated surname and they both want to keep their name.
So would you be what Tenny's alesni at carn Perreira.

Speaker 24 (01:18:35):
Yeah, you would. And how many nationalities are you represented there?
Because I know you've got Polish on the Zalizniak and
I think Pakistani, So it would be an incredible United
Nations that that marriage. So let's try and make that happen.
By the way, the Hurricanes are going to win as well.
I can't see them losing. And Fineang and northw is

(01:18:58):
in a flow state. They should call them Fineang and
no Flow, but that imployes the opposite. But yeah, you
guys are going to win the comp.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
Okay to stop it, stop it, stop it. Do not
try and put the markers on us.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Do not.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
I can see your game. I can see it from
a mile away. Let's see. Let's see where we are
in a couple of months. Hey, Ipswich Town, who got
relegated from the Premier League last year, have bound straight
back up again.

Speaker 24 (01:19:24):
Yeah, I know, and it's actually wonderful to see. I
think Ipswich Town are a club that deserve a chance.
They didn't play terrible football and they were battling all
year with Millwall of all places, and ironically the team
that really helped them. Millwall's last team they lost to
was Norwich, the arch rivals of Ipswich Town. So they

(01:19:46):
are back in the top flight. They cut Millwall's lunch.
Ed Sheeran is their star fan who was in the
changing rooms afterwards. Piney, you gotta love it. They were
singing with Ed. You know the tractor boys attract The
boys are back.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
How good? Imagine having a guy with a voice like
that as your best fan. Here he is strong.

Speaker 13 (01:20:09):
Love nights, strange man, let go in the house, sunny
in this space.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Namely saved me.

Speaker 13 (01:20:28):
Wasting from the May Straight and many stram the west
days in like co brees us, I got a lot
on a couple of grams.

Speaker 3 (01:20:42):
She outside to night.

Speaker 16 (01:20:48):
She another that sais go to another bag.

Speaker 13 (01:20:55):
Outside jos to.

Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
Analyzing the place and getting the inside. Weekend Sport with
Jason Vine News Talks, be News Talks five to two
just a couple of texts on the Warriors to mop
up some good ones too.

Speaker 4 (01:21:15):
Not only the skill the Warriors are showing, Jason, but
also the discipline thinking of the young guys like Lecqua
and Dimitric, who Andrew and Fish and the senior boys
have harnessed so well they let rip but manage themselves
in the heat of the moment so very well. It
shows the overall team culture that prevails, which comes from
the top. Very good point. We also, says Andy not

(01:21:36):
producer Andy Andy on text, have the competition's scariest bench.
We don't go backwards when they come on. They'd make
the run on squad for any other team. The only downside,
says Andy, as they'll probably head off to Berth and BNNG.
I guess that's the that's a discussion for the future.
And pint of the defensive system is so fluid and

(01:21:57):
the line brings so much energy and intent among the
last tackle with three seconds left on the clock speaks
volumes about the intensity that Warriors play with. Thank you
for all of your calls and correspondents. On the Warriors
who have a bye next weekend, so they'll collect two
competition points for that and then head off to Magic Round.

(01:22:19):
And I think that's the game of Magic Round, the
Warriors against the Broncos. It comes up on the Sunday
of Magic Round. I think it's the second to last
game of the entire weekend, set to be an absolute
belter at sun Corps Stadium. The Broncos going along. Okay,
I guess you'd say at the moment, aren't they what
are they tucked into the top eight? Just you Warriors

(01:22:42):
Broncos five past six New Zealand Time on Sunday, the
seventeenth of May. That's a a fortnite today after two
o'clock an extended chat with Julian Savier.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on
a pad off the field, got a story. It's all
on Weekend Sport with Jason Lyne on your home of
Sport News.

Speaker 4 (01:23:06):
Talks V two o seven. Welcome back and welcome and
this is Weekend Sport on News Talks EV. I'm Jason
Pine with Any McDonald running the cutter.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
Auckland is going to.

Speaker 4 (01:23:16):
Have the Ocean Race back in early twenty twenty seven
for an historic eleventh stop over Chair of the Ocean Race,
Richard Bresius is going to join us in studio this hour.
Also look ahead to the Wellington Phoenix Women's historic semi
final first leg tonight against Brisbane Julian Savia shortly eight

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hundred and eighty ten eighty is our number nine two
ninety two for your text messages, as we always do
and around about this time on weekend sport though there's
been a lot happening while perhaps you weren't paying attention,
or maybe you only had half an eye on it.
There's so much sport that you might have missed some
of it. So in case you missed it. A strong

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finished to the black Caps tour of Bangladesh.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
Win's deployed.

Speaker 5 (01:24:07):
Dispass for six into the grandstands and.

Speaker 9 (01:24:11):
That will seal the deal for New Zealand take the
mat winners based six wickets.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
What a knock, What a shot from Jacobs to win.

Speaker 4 (01:24:21):
It sixty two and on out from Bevan Jacobs in
vaccine at the black Caps home they tie the T
twenty series with the second game rained out to the
Sprint Race in Miami. Rando Norris what is Sprint.

Speaker 3 (01:24:33):
Race twenty six is.

Speaker 4 (01:24:34):
Going to pick up Sprint Race victory number four Lando
Norris crosses.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
The line a very comfortable winner.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
Hair Lando Norris cruising home to win the sprint. A
tough weekend so far for Liam Lawson. We know Auckland
FC got through their elimination final last night. It was
followed by the other A League elimination final between Melbourne
Victory and Sydney FC.

Speaker 17 (01:24:57):
Sydney FC's attack.

Speaker 3 (01:25:01):
Is the eighth first.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
That good against Velvin Victory, who's some definitionairs with the
Jews clearance upfield.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
The Melbourne Victory couldn't deal with it. Yeah, less dramatic
for that goal the difference and it sends Sydney FC
through to the semi finals where they will face Newcastle
home and away in Super Rugby. The Fiji and Drewer
have picked up a much needed word just to the
right of the right hand upright pick and go from
saloa is short over the line.

Speaker 26 (01:25:32):
And back is I think the number.

Speaker 5 (01:25:36):
Eight Fani Kai Baka, who has scored in his fiftieth
game for the Drewer.

Speaker 3 (01:25:41):
It is history for the Fijian and.

Speaker 4 (01:25:44):
Drewer that finished twenty four to fourteen over the Highlanders,
leaving both teams with a scrap now to make the finals. Meantime,
the Blues to the business rather against Mowana Pacifica at albany.

Speaker 20 (01:25:54):
Aj Lamb decides to take it himself meet as short
the Blues.

Speaker 22 (01:26:01):
We picking go.

Speaker 3 (01:26:02):
Harold Bitzer get the try forty three nine.

Speaker 4 (01:26:07):
I ran away with it after a tough first half
the conversion making the final score forty five nineteen to
the Blues. And in the NRAL, the Canberra Raiders turned
their form around like fifty game.

Speaker 27 (01:26:17):
Last week, speaking of distance, speaking of meters, sirt Press's
kind of race solidh There was thir sap and a much.

Speaker 3 (01:26:28):
Needed fourth win of the year for.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
The Camper Raiders twenty eight twelve over the Titans. And
the Sydney Roosters have surged up the Landa with a
thirty eight to twenty four win over the Broncos from
the Grisboe line. Walsh stopped him born with robson they're.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44):
Moving there.

Speaker 4 (01:26:47):
They their type, They've gone.

Speaker 5 (01:26:49):
B Racy Rodson pitchers his second try as a Rooster.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
The biggest names in sport are here Weekend Sport with
Jason Vine News Talks.

Speaker 4 (01:27:01):
NB coming up eleven past two. Julian Savilla, known to
write fans as the Bus one of the most powerful
wingers ever to wear the Black jersey, but his toughest
battles haven't always been on the field and all Blacks
great forty six tries in fifty four test match is
a key figure in the Rugby World Cup win in
twenty fifteen. His story is also one of resilience off

(01:27:25):
the field, living with asthma since birth and at one
stage nearly losing his life as a young boy in Wellington.
Now he's an ambassador for Asthma Awareness Week and using
that experience to deliver a pretty simple but vital message.
With the right management, asthma doesn't have to hold you back,
even at the very highest level of sport. As he

(01:27:46):
balances family life, the twilight of his decorated rugby career
and plans for life after the game, his focus is shifting,
but his desire to make an impact remains as strong
as ever. Julian Savia is with us on Weekend Sport. Julian,
you're an ambassador for Asthma Awareness Week and given your
own story, including that life threatening attack as a child,

(01:28:07):
what does this role mean to you personally?

Speaker 22 (01:28:10):
Hi, Jason, thanks for having me. I think just for
me it's just give awareness that it's it's not scary,
and you know, when you have it under control, it
actually becomes really easy. And I guess for me, as
someone that's had esthma, you know, my whole life being

(01:28:33):
able to reach I guess my own dreams, you know,
especially around the fitness area and the rugby stuff that
I was able to push through when get.

Speaker 15 (01:28:45):
To where I was.

Speaker 22 (01:28:47):
Again. But for me, esthma didn't really I didn't feel
like there was a disability or anything like that. I
just carried on through and sort of figured out my
routines around my inhalers. And I just think it's really
important for kids or even adults, you know, to to
know that you can do whatever you want.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
What were the key parts for you of managing it,
of reaching the very top of your sport, even though
asthma was a part of your life, How did you
manage your what were your routines and your techniques.

Speaker 22 (01:29:17):
I think for me was definitely as a kid the spacer.
Using the spacer was a big part, and obviously as
a kid, I hated it, but it's so important, especially
if it's the first time or as a little infant,
it definitely helps it and makes it easier because I've

(01:29:38):
got older. As you said, like just figuring out my routines.
I just knew I had to take my prevena, which
was a serotide, twice in the morning, twice at night.
And you know, as long as I did that, I
was pretty sweet. And then I just figured out my triggers.
You know, sometimes I might have a couple of beers
and they might trigger it, or cold night, cold morning,
I just you know, I had had to have mine

(01:29:59):
haler in hand.

Speaker 4 (01:30:01):
I know that there are parents listening who have have
children who have asthma, and they probably worry about whether
they can reach their full potential in sport and in life.
What advice would you give to parents of children with asthma?

Speaker 22 (01:30:17):
Honestly, like just really for me, I got educated pretty
I guess, you know, once I started playing rugby in
high school and realized how important it was to have
a routine and just and the lucky thing for me,
mom had asthma, so I learned from her and that

(01:30:38):
sort of made things easier for me to to sort
of understand and understand the importance of of my routine
and make sure I'm always doing it. It's like you know,
I always say it's like brushing your teeth and just
thought it out of habit.

Speaker 4 (01:30:52):
And you said before that you with a spacer as
a child, you hated it.

Speaker 22 (01:30:55):
What was that? I think it was just something new,
you know, something going over your mouth. It becomes quite scary,
you know, as a kid, and so you don't you
don't really know, but it's it's so important for you
when it just makes it easy instead of trying to
you know, I guess shove then hala, you know, down
your your child's mouth, the space is a little.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
Bit better, fair enough, one of night keyways asthma reffects.
That's a that's a big number. How important though? Was
awareness education? Correct in hailey use? How important is that
to be? You know a continued conversation.

Speaker 22 (01:31:31):
Well, I think it's massively important. And again like coming
up through my years, I didn't think it was important
because you know, I didn't think it was a disability
or anything. I was just going through life with it,
you know what I mean. And as I said, you know,

(01:31:52):
once I got understood the education around it, around why
it's important to take it every morning, what was important
to take it every night? It was there just you know,
in some cases and parts of my life, it kind
of goes away a little bit. You know, you don't
need John Halis and in some cases gets really bad.
But you know, and it's just just knowing how to

(01:32:13):
deal with situations. That's that's what keeps keeps everyone calm.
And you know, when you're prepared for that stuff because
you're educated, it just makes it a lot easier.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
Great advice, Great advice. How Wally got you would be
remissibly not to chattle but rugby with you. I still
remember your test debut June twenty twelve, Ireland and Auckland.
Three tries on test debut. How vivid are your memories
of that night?

Speaker 22 (01:32:39):
No, I was pretty vivid, to be honest, very very
special night for me. And man, I'll say it all.
Half said it then and i'll say it now. Like
I was able to just finish, you know, finish a
lot of the tries off, which I remember being DC
giving my first try. He said he's given a lot
of debuts or debut ees their first tries, so I

(01:33:03):
was pretty grateful.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
Yeah, it's a pretty handy plot, I say. I think
Dan Carter was at first five he had Touney Bill
and Conrad Smith and midfield, so you're likely to get
You're likely to get a few opportunities, I guess, yeah
for sure. Yeah, and you went on and it was
a prolific career. Jillian. Did you ever feel did you
ever feel pressure? You know, you know you're nickname the bus.
Everyone expected every time you played that that you would

(01:33:26):
just run over the top of people and score tries.
Did you feel feel pressure?

Speaker 22 (01:33:32):
Yeah, I'd probably be lying to myself if I say
I didn't. Definitely, there's a lot of pressure, not just
from I guess the expectations, but just being in the
Black jersey, you know, just a lot of the old
old boys used to say it. You know, it's easy
to get into the team and it's it's harder to

(01:33:52):
stay there and so so so that pressure of just
trying to do everything right, making sure my preparation was
all good every week, and just putting on consistant performances
on the weekend. So yeah, no, one hundred percent of
the pressure is up there, not only the external but
within the team.

Speaker 4 (01:34:08):
The twenty fifteen Rugby World Cup Golden Era, you played
a massive part in it. What made that All Black's
environment so special.

Speaker 22 (01:34:18):
Okay, I guess for me just during that time, it
was pretty surrealed myself just to be a part of
a World Cup team. And I don't know, I think
just having that group of leadership men that were there,
it just made everything so much easier smoother. So I
think that's really important, you know, you know, Richie Rido,

(01:34:41):
DC Conrad, Jerome Kina, all those guys, Kivy, I think
there their presence just makes us younger boys just feel
like I can just focus on my job and get
on with what I need to do to prepare well
for each game. So I think the oil of that
that they brought definitely made things easier for for USh

(01:35:05):
and fo.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
Yeah, he just reeled off half a dozen greats of
the game there and that team no wonder, no wonder,
what was so successful? Incredible. If we come to the
present day, how challenging has it been this season with
Mowana Pacific the future of the team now in serious doubt.

Speaker 22 (01:35:21):
Yeah, I mean, look, you know, with it's definitely been
hard and obviously we haven't been given the results that
we that we wanted, and then obviously beat with the
news about potentially not continuing next year. That's even you
know what that coming in as well, that's just made
it ten times difficult and just you know, just went

(01:35:42):
on the boys and minds and you know, I feel
for the boys and at the moment I can't get
on the field. So yeah, it definitely has been tough.
But you know, we're chucking through every week and you know,
trying to get the work done. And I thought the
boys played bloody, bloody well last night, especially in that
first half, were just you know, dropped off in the

(01:36:04):
second half and it's just disappointing.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
Se So so three games to go. I think you've
you're recovering from a dislocated shoulder, aren't you. Are we
going to see you back before the end of the season,
I honestly hope.

Speaker 22 (01:36:14):
So, so I'm not too far off. I'm just trying
to find that confidence to come back in and sort
of you know, start contact training. So yeah, I hope
I get to play before the season ends. I think
we only got two more games because I think we've
got to buy in there. Yeah that's right, So yeah,

(01:36:36):
you know, the next one or the last one, so
we'll see I hope.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
So I hope so, and I guess at some point
in the last little while you would have started thinking
about the next phase of your life, you know, transitioning
out of rugby. I know how difficult that is for players,
and you know a lot of the super rugby clubs
have alumni set up that you know that helped with
that transition. What will your transition out of rugby look like?
You've obviously started to think about what that next step

(01:37:00):
might be.

Speaker 22 (01:37:01):
Yeah, I've been thinking about it for you know, for
the last three two three years, obviously at the back
end of my career, you know, but but at the
stage just figuring what my options and and I'll figured
out that I've got a passion for coaching, and there's

(01:37:22):
some some businesses that I would like to venture in.
I know, recovery, just just being a young fellow, didn't
really take this, uh, you know, I walk up to
Jim's sishies and just you know, straight into the lists.
But you know, now, sort of playing in the game
for so long, I understand why it's so important. And like,

(01:37:46):
like I always wondered, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:37:47):
A big.

Speaker 22 (01:37:49):
Advocate for recovery and reheads and prehead and I used
to sit there thinking, you know, what the hecks he doing?

Speaker 15 (01:37:57):
Man?

Speaker 22 (01:37:58):
But you know that's but you know, you see him,
he still playing now, you know, that's kind of where
I want to be, you know, just just following us
footsteps and understanding how important recovery is and making sure
the body.

Speaker 4 (01:38:13):
Is well good stuff. When you think back to your
upbringing in Wellington, how much is that early part of
your life shaped the way that you have lived your life.

Speaker 22 (01:38:25):
Oh, I think it's been massive, especially with all my
family there and we kind of all went to the
same school. So yeah, it's been massive, a messive part
of my life. You know. Mum and Dad played rugby,
aunties and uncles and and and all my cousins and

(01:38:47):
we all played rugby, so it was just almost like
a natural thing to do, you know, like to play
another sport was almost forbidden.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
Well, you got pretty good at this one. Just to finish,
just to finish, and look, I hope there's more to come,
and whether it be this season or beyond what we
waiting say. But when when you do eventually decide to
you know, to call it quotes? What what do you
hope people will think when they remember you on a
rugby field?

Speaker 15 (01:39:17):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (01:39:18):
Just you know, he really thought I was great, But
I guess for me, like as I'm at the back
of my career, you know, I've realized there's so much
more than rugby. So for me, I just want to
be really, really awesome teammate friends like that. Those are

(01:39:39):
the memories I'm probably going to miss the most. Seeing
all the young fellows come through and and sort of
help them guide them through their careers. That's probably what
I'm going to miss. But hopefully if I've been coaching,
I can still do that. So yeah, I think just
a good man, hard working and a great player in

(01:40:04):
parts of the years I've played rugby.

Speaker 13 (01:40:06):
Sir.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
Yeah, well I am. I just rolled some YouTube of
your tries before I chat it to you, and I
just I just found myself with majure on the ground.

Speaker 7 (01:40:14):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:40:14):
It's just amazing what you did in that black jersey
and for the Hurricanes and on as well. Julian, It's
some yeah, so much. Yeah, mate, You've got a special
part of our in our rugby history. Congratulations on your
role as an ambassador for Asthma Awareness Week, which is
this week ahead. World Asthma Day is Tuesday, the fifth
of May. Look mate, great to catch up, great to

(01:40:34):
chat all the best for what lies ahead.

Speaker 22 (01:40:36):
Thank you Jesson, appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:37):
No, thank you, Julian, Julian Savia. They're joining us on
News Talks EDDB and Weekend Sport two twenty four. It
is when we come back. It's the Ocean Race, which
is headed back our way. Chair of the Ocean Race,
Richard Bresius, is in studio with us right after.

Speaker 1 (01:40:54):
This Non tackles Harder opinions, Weekend Sport with Jason Pie
News Talks ed B.

Speaker 4 (01:41:00):
Yes, indeed it is two twenty seven. Auckland's love affair
with offshore sailing about to take center stage once again.
In early twenty twenty seven, the Ocean Race returns to
the City of Sales for and historic eleventh stop over.
There are twelfth in New Zealand all up. This time
going to be bigger than ever. The cruise will tackle
one of the longest and toughest opening legs in the

(01:41:22):
Race's long history, more than fourteen thousand nautical miles from
Alicante through the Atlantic, around Cape Horn, across the Southern
Ocean before arriving in Auckland. And what awaits them more
than just a race stop. Auckland's Viaduct will transform into
a three week global sailing festival, bringing fans closer than
ever to the boats, the technology, and the human stories

(01:41:44):
behind one of sports or the sports greatest endurance tests.
Chair of the Ocean Race is Richard Bresius, who's just
arrived in Auckland from Sweden but has taken the time
to stop into the studio. Richard, thanks for joining us.
Auckland has hosted this race more than any other city.
I think what makes it such a natural home for
the Ocean Race?

Speaker 28 (01:42:04):
Yes, Hi, it's great to be here in Green to
be back in New Zealand and Auckland, and yeah, I
mean it's it. You just have to look at the
map of the world and you realize why is New
Zealand such a natural stopover for Around the World Race,
and why is New Zealand the birthplace of some of
the very best ocean racers in the world. Because you

(01:42:26):
are an ocean nation. So here it's in the blood,
it's in the DNA, and that's really something you feel
when you sail into Auckland.

Speaker 17 (01:42:35):
And I remember my first Around the World Race.

Speaker 28 (01:42:38):
I was twenty one, and when you you know you
come up through the Southern Ocean, you see the silhouette
of New Zealand, you smell it, and then you see
in this wonderful landscape, and then you sail around Cape
Reenga and then down down the.

Speaker 17 (01:42:53):
Coast and into Auckland, and you realize you're in heaven.

Speaker 4 (01:42:56):
So wonderful.

Speaker 17 (01:42:57):
This is want to be the highlight of the ocean race?

Speaker 4 (01:43:01):
What actually you have painted there? Amazing that happening league
though I was tired even just sighing it for thousand
nautical miles and I can't t to Aukland. What kind
of taste will that provide for these crews and these sailors.

Speaker 28 (01:43:13):
Yeah, well, actually you took these way out because you
took Cape Hoorn on the way down.

Speaker 17 (01:43:17):
And what we do is the other way.

Speaker 15 (01:43:18):
So we go.

Speaker 28 (01:43:20):
We start from Europe from Spain. And think about it,
if you look at the globe and you drill a
hole through the globe where you end up in in Spain.
So we're actually sailing just half a way around the planet.
So we go through the North Atlantic, South Atlantic, into
the Southern Ocean, halfway around the Antarctica, and then come
up here into New Zealand and it's it's not only

(01:43:43):
one of the longest, it is the longest leg ever
of this race since the first edition in nineteen seventy three,
and one of the core of the Ocean Race.

Speaker 17 (01:43:53):
It's really that it's not supposed to be easy.

Speaker 28 (01:43:56):
So we tend for each edition to find a new,
bigger challenge, something new, something that makes it even harder.
And then we said, let's make this leg. Let's make
the epic leg from Spain to New Zealand coming here
to Auckland next year. So yeah, I'm not going to
sail it. So it's easy for me to sit here
and say blah blah blah. But for the people who
is going to join the crew in the different boats

(01:44:19):
that they have, they're up or something special. And I
think some are probably thinking, am I really up for this?

Speaker 4 (01:44:26):
Well, after such a brutal and epic league, as you've
just outlined, what condition do you expect the boats and
the sailors to arrive in Auckland?

Speaker 28 (01:44:34):
And oh, I think they will be arriving in a
pretty terrible state. Actually, you know, they come straight up
from the Southern Ocean and you get a couple of
days to recover and maybe forget the hardest part of
the Southern Ocean, but down here in a year's time,
as they come in, everyone should come down into the
viaduct and meet the sailors and shake their hands, and
you'll see frost bites, you'll see red eyes, but you'll

(01:44:57):
see people have gone through something that you cannot do
in any other sports event, and they've come together as
a team in a way that's ex straordinary. And I
think that's the core of this race, is the team spirit,
the work that the way you come together on these boats.

Speaker 17 (01:45:14):
It's outstanding.

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
How much has technology changed this rice in recent years.

Speaker 28 (01:45:20):
I mean, obviously this is a technology sport and we
are now running with the fastest monohil class in the
world when it comes to breaking records over the longest
distance sale over twenty four hours. It's called the IMOCA
sixty sixty feet long boats they're foiling, and they're doing
that across the ocean for not hours, not days, not weeks,

(01:45:44):
but for months. So it's extraordinary boats and technology plays
a huge part of it.

Speaker 17 (01:45:49):
It's a pretty open rule.

Speaker 28 (01:45:50):
So both around builds their own boats, design their own boats,
but they tend to be pretty equal in speed anyway,
and of course New Zealand here we have a strong heritage.
A big part of the technology that goes on the boats,
from sales to various design in parts or stems from
New Zealand or New Zealand innovations. So we have a

(01:46:11):
lot of legacy from the New Zealand marine industry.

Speaker 4 (01:46:14):
What do you think New Zealand continues to punch above
its white and in offshore sailing.

Speaker 28 (01:46:20):
Well, we look forward to that because New Zealand's used
to punch well over the way in afore sailing. New
Zealand were the kings of the ocean, and that again
you look at the map and you see you are
in an ocean nation, so it's pretty natural. But it's unfortunately, Jason,
it's quite a long time since the kiwis were out
there battling on the ocean. So we are That's one

(01:46:41):
of the reasons we're coming here because we really want
to bring the Keywis back out on the ocean.

Speaker 4 (01:46:47):
Tell us about the stop iver the viat actors mentioned
will become a three week festival. Really, what can can
fans expect when they come down there? What sort of
things will they experience that perhaps they haven't before now.

Speaker 28 (01:47:00):
I think if you ask any of the sailors who've
done this race, it's been here since nineteen seven seven.
The vibe, the experience, and the knowledge and the passion
by the New Zealand fans is extraordinary, so that I
think we will feel a lot of during this stopover.
And it's going to be a festival, as you said,
almost three weeks down in the viaduct basin and across

(01:47:22):
Auckland and you can experience see the boats, of course,
enjoy a lot of great programs down in the Ocean
Lie Park, and the big party is also about the
ocean because we are raising for the ocean. We have
a big program to educate their one around the ocean.
The boats are ocean laboratories, and we also engage a

(01:47:46):
lot with you know, kids in educational sailing activities the
Sailing Academy. So there'll be a lots for everyone, and
it's not a ticketed event, so it's free for all
and we really look forward to it. Last time when
we were last year in twenty eighteen, there were five
hundred thousand people coming down here, so we look forward
to seeing a lot of people again in Oakland.

Speaker 4 (01:48:07):
Gender equality. Gender inclusions now firm role in the ocean
race as well. How is that transformed team dynamics in
the culture of the race.

Speaker 28 (01:48:15):
Well, I mean it's transformed so far that now it's
not about equity inequality. It's about performance purely. So teams
pick the crew, and some teams pick an equal number
of women and men. Some have had more women than
men on some legs, and some have had one women
which is the woman on board, out of four crew members,

(01:48:38):
which is the minimum. So what we're really seeing is
that the mixture in all variations of age, of gender
or culture is the way to build a strong team.
And this is probably one of the few platforms in
sport that has come so far. So now it's growing
organic that way.

Speaker 4 (01:48:55):
I know we've got some announcements to come around dates, etc.
But when the fleet does leave Auckland after the three
weeks here in mid March of next year, what are
you hoping that New Zealanders will say about that experience
of of having the boats here.

Speaker 22 (01:49:08):
Oh?

Speaker 28 (01:49:08):
Well, I think above all that they felt, Wow, I'm
really inspired by these amazing people.

Speaker 17 (01:49:14):
Who are doing this race.

Speaker 28 (01:49:15):
They are really the most as you've mentioned, the most
endurance and resilience oriented athletes in the world and the
best team players in the world. So they have been
inspired by those they've learned about the Ocean and they
really want to root for the keywis that we hope
to see on the start line in Spain next year
in January. We have a great local organizing team here
run by Will Thomas and eighteen K Sports, and we

(01:49:38):
work great with the Oakland City Council and with the government.
So I think that's how you build a big base
for this event by working together, and the fans.

Speaker 17 (01:49:46):
Are part of that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:47):
Welcome to New Zealand, Richard. Thank you for stopping into
the studio to have a chat to us. Exciting times here,
but look forward to hearing more details about the stop
over here in early twenty twenty seven. All the beasts
as you pull it all together, and again, thank you
for stopping in for a chat.

Speaker 28 (01:50:00):
Yeah, thanks a lot, Thanks for having me and look
forward to seeing your next year in January.

Speaker 17 (01:50:04):
In February March.

Speaker 4 (01:50:06):
Very much so. Chair of the Ocean Race, Richard Breese
is joining us in studio here on news Talks. There'd
be twenty four away from three.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
Call it how you see it Weekend Sport with Jason
Pine News Talks, there'd be.

Speaker 4 (01:50:19):
Twenty one away from three. I want to get you
inside the Wellington Phoenix women's camp. Shortly They take on
Brisbane Raw tonight, the first leg of their A League
Women's semi final series. But it's been another remarkable day
and night at the Crucible in the World Snooker Championship
semi finals.

Speaker 3 (01:50:49):
Much script in the direction while how did it Hola?

Speaker 4 (01:50:59):
But he's in the final? It hamm again the magicyp
Tomar unbelievable, incredible sen me final Mark Allen suffering a
devastating final frame defeat to wu Yezer, missing a match
winning black off its spot in an extraordinary penultimate frame
that would have taken him into his first World Championship final.

(01:51:21):
Wu looked down and out. He trailed sixteen fourteen, but
reeled off three consecutive frames to win seventeen sixteen, a
heartbreaking conclusion for Allen, who missed a simple black he
would have won the match if it potted it on
the thirty second frame. Michael Day from Totally Snooked is
back with us. Michael, you sent me a message this
morning that said I can't believe what I've seen. Genuinely stunned.

(01:51:45):
Can you describe what happened?

Speaker 20 (01:51:47):
That was absolutely bonkers? Yeah, thanks Jason, Actually incredible. I
don't think I've ever seen a match like that before.
I mean people online have been talking about it. Pundit
say it's the most extraordinary match you've ever seen. And
I just absolute heartbreak, heartbreak for Mark Allen to miss
a black off. Its spot to reach is made in final,

(01:52:08):
and Alan's forty years old, so we don't know that
that could be his one and only chance to.

Speaker 26 (01:52:12):
Get to a final. But absolutely staggering. Jason, I can't
believe it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:16):
Mark Ellen makes that pot ninety nine times out of
one hundred. It can only be pressure counted.

Speaker 20 (01:52:25):
Absolutely yeah, I mean he makes it, you know, nine
hundred and night nine times out of a thousand.

Speaker 26 (01:52:30):
You know, it's absolutely straightforward.

Speaker 20 (01:52:32):
But the pressure he was under, what the Cruci will
puts you through, you know, to achieve a dream to
get through to the final, it's just staggering. I just
wasn't expecting it. I mean we're talking about Alan here,
who's a former world number one. He's won the UK Championship,
he's won the Masters, very good in the pressure on
a heap of trophies, but it just shows in that situation,

(01:52:54):
what what can happen in our amazing sport and the
pressure is just too much.

Speaker 26 (01:52:57):
He missed it. And credit to Wu who is only
twenty two years old.

Speaker 20 (01:53:02):
He's only at the Crucible the third third time in
his career this year, won a match on the Crucible
stage before this year, and the way he stepped up
across those last three frames nerveless. I mean that the
break into the siding frame was true, utter class and
good luck to him, and you know, good luck to
Mark Allen as well, because he was very gracious in

(01:53:23):
his postmatch interview.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
There's been a lot of talking points right across the championship.
Another one at the start of the deciding frime I
understand as well, with a protester removed from the Crucible.

Speaker 20 (01:53:37):
Yes, yeah, another It's just an extraordinary game between these two.
There was obviously a para outage in the third frame
of the match in the opening session. We then had
the longest frame at the Crucible history, one hundred minute
frame in the second session. Then we've had Alan mister
Black of the spots to get to the final and
then the start of deciding frame, a spectator made a

(01:53:59):
deliberate disturbance, made some sort of protest, and they were
rightfully ejected from the crucible. Wu was act on his
shot to play a red into the corner pocket and
he actually missed it. So I'm not quite sure if
the incident unsettled him, but thankfully for him and his supporters,
he was able to when he was given a chance
later on the frame, he took it with both hands.

(01:54:20):
But everything's around that match. I think it is probably
the most remarkable game I've ever seen. There were so
many elements to it, just extraordinary.

Speaker 4 (01:54:29):
Based of thirty three frames, is such a grind, doesn't it.
How much of matches of this length, and it's thirty
five in the final are played between the ears rather
than on the table.

Speaker 26 (01:54:42):
Yeah, definitely, Jason.

Speaker 20 (01:54:43):
I mean the players often talk, especially these longer format matches,
because it's played over three or four sessions, they tend
to break the match down into different sessions. So, you know,
the first session they tried to get out four four
or five three up, but especially towards the end of
the game, because you've put so much effort, you know,
and exerted so much into the game. It is a

(01:55:04):
mental it's a mental test. And you know, one of
our greatest commentators and broadcasters of all time, Clive Avenue,
passed away a few years ago. He called it the
Marathon of the Mines because it's seventeen days of can
be mental torture and concentration. And yeah, I mean, Alan
would never miss that black, never missed that black. It
was just the pressure of the situation.

Speaker 4 (01:55:25):
The first semi final Sean Murphy, John Higgins won seventeen
fifteen by Murphy. He was down thirteen eleven overnight fifteen
thirteen down and then reeled off four straight frames to
win it. What changed in that final session that allowed
him to come through.

Speaker 20 (01:55:43):
Simply sew Murphy played fantastically fantastic. I mean I was
listening to his post match interview and he said he
was gutted that he was thirteen eleven down after the
third session, but he said, look, I just wanted to reset,
get a good start, you know, try and get to
get to level.

Speaker 26 (01:55:59):
And that's exactly what he did.

Speaker 20 (01:55:59):
He won the first two frames of the afternoon to
get to thirteen thirteen. But John Higgins, the four time
world chamniey it is he won two frames, so he
canceled it out so fifteen thirteen. But it's another example
of the mid session interval, so they have missed edging
in aval. Murphy had a chance to group and he
come back out and he played fantastically well.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
Jason.

Speaker 20 (01:56:18):
I mean he made five century breaks throughout the game.
He was brilliant. John Higgins had an opportunity at sixteen
fifteen to force a decider, was on a break of
fifty and he's mister Black that he would pop ninety
nine times at the one hundred a year. He rolled
a Black missed it and Sean Murphy took the opportunity

(01:56:38):
with both hands.

Speaker 26 (01:56:38):
So Sean played incredibly well.

Speaker 20 (01:56:40):
He's been one of the stand up players this season
and it's no surprise to me that he's in the final.

Speaker 4 (01:56:45):
So who takes favoritism then into that final?

Speaker 26 (01:56:50):
That's that is the million dollar question.

Speaker 23 (01:56:53):
I mean.

Speaker 26 (01:56:55):
Murphy, this will be his fifth final.

Speaker 20 (01:56:57):
He's obviously he's not won it since two thousand and
five when he was a twenty two year old qualifier.
Now you've got wu Yizzer who's a twenty two year
old in his first ROLD five so there's sort of
great symmetry there for this final. I think both players
are going to be absolutely buzzing coming into this game.
It's interesting because Wu played Sean Murphy and the Masters
earlier this year on his Master's debut at the Alexander Palace.

(01:57:20):
Murphy was the defending champion first game of the tournament
and Wu basically crushed him six frames to two. So
he's going to take a lot of confidence from that
previous shot against Murphy. They've only played twice before. In
terms of favoritism, that is, you could make asis for
both players. I would probably stied on Murphy because he's

(01:57:41):
been there and done it, but all.

Speaker 26 (01:57:44):
Bets are off of this final, Jason, the anything could happen,
just the.

Speaker 4 (01:57:47):
Way you want a tournament to end. Michael has been
great to get r and Ellis's over the last couple
of days, said the personal seend of the World Snooker Championship.
Hopefully we'll get a footing final, which I'm sure we will.
Thanks for joining us across New Zealand. Thank you, Jason.

Speaker 26 (01:58:00):
I really really appreciate it.

Speaker 8 (01:58:01):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:58:01):
I really enjoyed having you on Michael Michael day there
from totally snooker thirteen to three. The Wellington Next Women
play their first ever A League finals match tonight Brisbane
brought away in the first leg of a semi final
back home next week. It's their first game for a
month with an international break and qualifying direct into the
semi finals. I spoke during the week with Phoenix defender

(01:58:22):
Ali Walker and as to first of all, how the
month off had been.

Speaker 29 (01:58:25):
It's been long, but I think it's been good preparation.
We had some girls go play with the Ferns and
Lou obviously with her national team as well, but it
was a good time to like check in on how
we're playing as a team, fix up anything that maybe
teams are looking to hurt us by doing, and just
kind of getting back together.

Speaker 4 (01:58:41):
But it has been long, so now we're here. How
has the week been? Has it felt different from a
regular season week with a finals game at the end
of it, albeit the first leg of a two leg
at semi I think.

Speaker 16 (01:58:52):
The approach is similar.

Speaker 29 (01:58:53):
Obviously, you want to get where we've always been trying
to get shutouts, clean sheets, that's been the goal. But
I think really understanding that there's two parts of it,
so it's not just a n a minute game. There's
there's two hands of it, and I think just keeping
that longevity of obviously wanting to go away and get
a good result on the road, but really keeping that
clean sheet so that we can come home and do

(01:59:13):
what we.

Speaker 16 (01:59:13):
Do well here.

Speaker 4 (01:59:14):
So I guess in that regard then, as a defender,
a big part of what you do is look for
those clean sheets. Just before we talk about this game specifically,
how helpful has it been to be part of such
a consistent back line yourself, Mac, Barry, MAURICEA Vandermier have
played every game. How helpful has that been in terms
of cohesion and keeping those clean sheets.

Speaker 29 (01:59:33):
I think we clicked as a back line early as well,
which really helped. And I think we each know how
each other plays, so it really helps me go do
my job knowing that Mac can cover me and vice
versa for Marisa's as well on the other side. So
I think, and just having that regular, consistent minutes with
people is it's hard not to build a.

Speaker 24 (01:59:51):
Bond with them.

Speaker 4 (01:59:53):
And talking of consistent minutes, you have played every minute.
The only player has done that. I think Mack came
off in one game, so you've played every minute? Is
this common for you? Has consistency like this been a
hallmark of your career.

Speaker 29 (02:00:05):
For the most part, Yes, to play consistently as well.
I think that's a goal of mine, especially as a defender.
I'm not there to be the showy one at all.
I think just defending when I can, helping where I can,
and I think that also in turn leads to more
minutes in general.

Speaker 4 (02:00:20):
And can you compare the A League to the football
you are playing in Portugal? What's the what's the standard
in terms of the similarities the differences? Is it a
better standard? For example?

Speaker 16 (02:00:32):
I think it's different.

Speaker 29 (02:00:32):
It's definitely more technical in Europe and the style and
where those girls have been used to playing. But I
think you could see where someone that's more athletic or
has a little more physicality that would show up there
and be a really good asset in Portugal. And so
I think here that's more of what it is, which
is cool because then you get someone like Brook Nun

(02:00:53):
or Pia who are really technical and they thrive really
well in this environment.

Speaker 16 (02:00:56):
So it's a little bit of both. But I think
this one's faster, more physical, more just aggressive.

Speaker 4 (02:01:01):
Overall, you guys have made history of the things if
you've made the fin or little influence as hard as
you have. But what do you think the reasons have
been the whole marks of this side across the regular season.

Speaker 29 (02:01:13):
I think just the people that we have. Obviously, our
leader of Bev is world class. You know, you can't
really even put a price on that. And I think
we have a lot of people that have been here
for a while and they come with not necessarily more
pride for the club, but that asset as well is
really important. Then you have CJ who's played in overseas

(02:01:34):
and has had such a successful career, and even though
she's not playing now, you can feel that in our team.
I think just each little person is part of this
puzzle and it's definitely the most colorful puzzle I've been
and if you will, but I think it works so well,
and I think that also comes from it's a top
down thing.

Speaker 4 (02:01:50):
Is how has Bev helped you specifically?

Speaker 16 (02:01:55):
I think Bev and we did a personality test way
back when and.

Speaker 29 (02:01:58):
We're quite similar, so I think just having someone that
understands that also is good to push me as well.

Speaker 16 (02:02:05):
I think she understands that she can push me.

Speaker 29 (02:02:07):
I'm very very honest, very loud, very vocal kind of person,
but she also can give that to me. And I
think knowing someone that's kind of similar in ways, like
I can really receive that well because I know that
she's kind of maybe seeing it how I'm seeing it. Yes,
I think it's just also, she's the best coach I've
played for, and she's clearly coached some awesome players and

(02:02:30):
has had a lot of success, So I think that
comes she gains a lot of respect from that as well.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
Or is zero back to this game on Sunday to
finish it is a unique situation. You want one ever
game you play right, but what like if you came
back level would that be a good outcome?

Speaker 16 (02:02:46):
Okay, we'd be fine with that.

Speaker 29 (02:02:47):
I think that's why we're looking at it as one
long game in a way, kind of maybe a half
time in between the two and just understanding that, yep,
we have the first part, but we want to do
as well as we can going into that halftime and
then seeing what we need to do and clean up
for the next game.

Speaker 4 (02:03:06):
That next game doo fee when you think about it,
I mean, Portador Park is going to be packed. Extra
seats have been released, they'll be snapped up. It's going
to be I mean, no women's game in this country,
no club going anyway, has had this hype about it.
Do you start thinking about what it might.

Speaker 24 (02:03:20):
Be like on it.

Speaker 4 (02:03:20):
It'll be Mother's Day here too.

Speaker 16 (02:03:22):
I know that'll be really cool.

Speaker 29 (02:03:23):
I think even oh gosh, was it our Western Sydney game,
we had a really really big turnout.

Speaker 16 (02:03:29):
The weather was crappy and even that was just awesome.

Speaker 29 (02:03:32):
So I think it's really cool that people are at
one backing the club, backing women's football. And I think
it's really really really cool for the girls that are
from here because I think it's awesome that people show
up and show out. And obviously I'm not from here,
but when that support is worldwide, I think that's what
grows the game.

Speaker 4 (02:03:48):
That's Wellington Phoenix women's defender Elie Walker. They play Brisbane
tonight at seven. Back home next Sunday for the return
League seven Away from three news talks, he'd be coming
up four to three. That's us all weekend sports and
beverage after three with the Weekend Collective. Thanks for listening,
and huge thanks to Andy McDonald for producing yesterday and today.
Enjoy your afternoon, hope you enjoy yours as well. Exit

(02:04:09):
Song today with the Harlem Globe Trotters and Studio earlier
on Angel of Harlem. Of course, see Tomorrow Night.

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
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