Full Show Podcast: 08 March 2026

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just over. What are we fourteen hours away? Black Caps
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Time going to get you inside the black Caps camp
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He's with us later on today as well, as we
set the scene for what could be a pretty special
early morning in New Zealand cricket. The season opening Australian
Formula One Grand Prix set to go at five o'clock
this afternoon as well. Liam Lawson going to start from
eighth on the grid. We'll get you to Melbourne Park
after two with Australian Formula One commentator James Baldwin leading

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us off today. Though Dave Reddy the new All Blacks
head coach, how are they feeling about this in Australia
given the fact he was sacked as Wallaby's coach in
early twenty twenty three and here we are three years
later and he's got the All Blacks head coaching job.
Chair of Rugby Australia at the time that Dave Rennie
was exited was Hamish mcclennan. He's standing by the chat

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to us. Can you hear your thoughts on what he
has to say? As well other matters around today. Super
Rugby Pacific Round four done all done, goodwin by the
Blues over the Crusaders last night at Eden Park. Get
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Striker Logan Rogerson on the show, going to wrap the
twenty twenty six Golden Shears with Jamie McKay James mcconey
in his regular Sunday slot as well Live Sport this afternoon.
The second ODII between the White Ferns and Zimbabwe underway
in Dunedin. As you heard Elliott tell us during the
Sports News it was Yes, there were some pretty grim

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scenes with a with an injury to one of the players,
but hopefully that will all turn out. Okay Zimbabwe betting
okay actually forty eight for one and the fourteenth over
forty eight for one and the fourteenth. Millikur won the
toss earlier on today and sent Zimbabwe and we'll keep
eyes on that, and also the Planket Shield match between
CD and ND and Napier and day one of the

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Vancouver Sevens. The Black Fern Sevens have romped to an
opening thirty five five went over Great Britain despite leading
by just two points at halftime. The All Black Sevens,
on the other hand, but of a horror start, beaten
twelve ten by Spain in their first match after leading
ten nilm Our men play Great Britain in their second
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Speaker 2 (04:14):
dB Dave Rennie's rugby journey has taken a remarkable turn
just over three years after being sacked as Wallaby's coach.
He has now been appointed head coach of the All Blacks.
Dave Rennie dismissed by Rugby Australia in early twenty twenty three,
a decision made while Hamish mcclennan was chair of Rugby Australia.

(04:36):
Hamish mcclennan joins US now amos, what was your reaction
when you heard that Dave Rennie had this week been
appointed new head coach of the All Blacks.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I've always thought Dave was a good coach. I think
it's the right decision a David Kirk and as tough
as it is, and it's such a brutal game, and
you know, I've had my issues. I think it was
right to cut Razor and I feel sorry for him
because he's a good guy and a good coach. But

(05:06):
I think when I reflect on the decision, something had
to be done with the ABS and I still know
a lot of people in New Zealand rugby and the
team wasn't playing to its full potential. And look, he
might have had a master plan and it's unfair. And
I had a master plan and never got to follow
through on it. But you've just got to make calls

(05:29):
in life, and I think Dave learned a lot playing
with the Wallabies. I think there's a big difference between
the psychology of New Zealanders and Australians, and we have
a different sporting market here and so, you know, in
a perverse kind of way, I think this really does

(05:50):
help the ads. He never lost the change room and
he stated that publicly when he coached the Wallabies, and
I think Raiser did was the change room. So you're
going to have a very interesting and new dynamic. So
I think his challenge will be how do I rally

(06:13):
the troops in a very short period of time. And
I kind of look at it and think, well, put
in the final ast side, which will be spectacular. I
I'm not a fan of the draw I do, to
be honest with you, but I think the game of
the tournament will actually be if if the Abs play
South Africa in the quarterfinals. And so I think I

(06:38):
think David is a better choice. And as I said,
he's coaching an international team, and you know, there's there's
a big part of me that feels sorry for what
happened for him out here. But you know, we all
make calls and maybe in a serendipitous, funny way, this
is his colleague because New Zealand is different. I know
he's got a lot of coaching fans there and he'll

(07:02):
get the players will get behind him, and I think
he needed to do something. So you know, if I
if I was a key, we i'd be feeling better
about the decision.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Do you still stand by the call to replace Dave
Rennie with Eddie Jones three years ago?

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (07:18):
I do.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I mean, you know, the simple fact is that, I mean, Eddie,
our problems are structural and provincial and I think you
know in Sydney alone, they say it's the most competitive
winter sports market. So we've got soccer AFL, NRL that
are just raiding our players and rugby union. And I

(07:40):
used to say to our provinces there's a reason why
we haven't won a World Cup or a blood as
we have. We actually, if we could garner the right
players could be much more competitive and we'd be winning
blood aslos. So I just felt that it was too slow.
Our structure hasn't change in one hundred and twenty years,
and Eddie had intimate knowledge of our pathways and the

(08:03):
player group and I think he and I think he
knew that more than Dave, to be honest with you.
So you know, he had a little hand in keeping
Max Jorgenson in the game as a casing point. He
helped with Joseph Sowali. So Mark Alexander, who's the chairman
of South African Rugby, so under his watch he's won
two World Cubs said that. I mean his view, so

(08:26):
not an Australian view, was that Any was one of
the best coaches in the world and without him when
he was coaching as an assistant coach or a technical
coach with the Springboks, he said word for word, they
wouldn't have won up without Any. So on paper, you know,
when he got sacked by England, he had a seventy
four percent win rate versus Dave was thirty eight percent

(08:51):
for us and we had a terrible Spring Tours. So
like I hate making these, you know, or being part
of these calls. It was a board decision as well,
I mean a unanimous board decision at RA Yes, I
was the chairman, but we debated it a lot and
there was a sense that we needed to change it
up and the main reason ironically for that is that

(09:11):
we've thought we'd get kicked out of the balls. So
whether that was the right or the wrong decision, we
we stand by it. And Eddie's got three separate teams
to the finals of World Cups. So you go, seventy
four percent with England after seven years is not a
bad track record. And he's got three different three different

(09:31):
teams to finals of World Cups, which is pretty impressive.
So you know, I don't wish Ill will on anyone,
and so I think I think this is the shot
in the arm that the Kiwi's needed because I was actually,
you know, despite what people think, really concerned about how
you guys were playing. And I think there was a

(09:52):
lack of too much experimentation and a lack of a
lack of structure in terms of how you are playing.
And I think Dave will do a good job. And
I think New Zealand's is very different from Australia. I
think we are we're made differently. I think outsiders looking
and say you're so close together as countries, you must

(10:13):
be the same. I think we think differently, we motivate differently,
and I'm not saying either it's better or worse. We're
just we're we're like the best of brothers, but we
also are different. It's like children and the family, and
I you know, we'll say to the day I die,
I love I love New Zealanders, but Ossie's a different

(10:34):
and and I don't think I don't think Dave really
understood that. And I don't think he really tapped into
what really motivates us. So I think, I think you'll
do a good job. And I think you know, you
guys the clocks ticking. There are a lot of Kiwis
who live in Australia who will come over to Australia
for the World Cup, so you'll have you'll probably have

(10:56):
more Kiwi's than Australian's bloody watching the games. So I
think you're into the real shot. But you know, it's
it's a it's an interesting drawer. I look at the
South Africans that in my opinion, they've still got they've
got they've got enough enough debt to have two teams

(11:16):
that could win the World Cup. In my opinion, you
guys don't have as much debt, but you've got more
debt which will benefit Dave and so so I think
it's a risk worth taking. But life is full of risks.
Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. But I think
he needed to do something.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
There's a couple of your comments I already want to
pick up on Hamish. The first is about Dave. Were
any not understanding the Australians of the job. Do you
think Joe Schmidt understood it better.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
I've never met Joe, but I suspect he didn't either.
I mean he's he's ironically, I mean, the thing is
like Barren Gatlan and I was a fabulous coach. Like
I'm not not in any way disregarding them, but you know,
to get a team to win what will be what

(12:11):
I think eight games now with a home World Cup,
you need depth. And I think statistics prove if you've
got a some someone from your home country who's the
lead coach, set statistics shows that that works. So you've
got you know Rasci in you know South Africa, and

(12:34):
you've got both Wick in England. And I just think
that it does make a different. I think I think
I think a different I should say, I think it
just will give everyone, including the players and Dave that
extra motivation. And whilst he was brought born in the
cook Islands. I think he'll be able to pull the

(12:55):
various sections of your team together better. He was obviously
very good at the Chiefs, but it didn't work in Australia.
I mean we and say we make we make calls
and so you know I paid the price for it.
But life goes on, and you know, I think I
think he'll do better than raise. Will that be enough

(13:15):
to get him to to beat South Africa or to
win the World Cup, who knows. I think you'll have
a lot of fans that will sort of gee your
team on, but you're you know, you're running out of time,
so you don't have a lot of time to get
the team ready. And I think I think you'll have
a tough tour in South Africa. But then again, you know,

(13:37):
Joe Shmik got the Wallabies to win at Ellis Park,
which was phenomenal. So we'll see.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
What leads you to think that Raja lost the dressing room.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Well, I've heard that from really good sources, and it's
hard to pint on any one player, and I think
it's really unfair to say Sosiety, Saba or anything like that.
But I just heard that from sources that I trust.
Who you know embedded in your system, so I won't

(14:09):
out them, but you know that's I think. I think
he positioned himself as a culture coach, and I think
that's sort of one of the big differences when you
look at I think Australians players need more hands on
sort of coaching because because I think your players. But
by the time I heard a fact, I think this
is true, by the time you put Paul on All

(14:31):
Blacks jersey, you played twice twice the amount of games
at that high level than the average Wallaby. And so
you know, I want I want the Wallabies to win.
I mean, we worked so hard to get that home
World Cup and you know they're my team and they
always will be. But if you want me to comment
about New Zealand, I think times against you. I think

(14:54):
you know Dave's a solid choice. There wasn't a lot
a lot of choice out there. I think he would
have learned a lot because he's competitive at that international
level and he knows it's tough. But I I think
he competitions South Africa and I think RASI has done
an amazing job of building depth and I don't think
the AaB's have got the depth that you used to have.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Oh look, I don't think you'll get an argument from
anybody about that on the side of the Tasman. If
Dave Ronnie does with the World Cup with the All
Blacks in eighteen nineteen months from now, do you think
you'll look back and think you made the wrong call?
Or of the two things just different in the way
that you've outlined. And that Dave Ronie wasn't the right
coach for the Wallabies, that doesn't mean he can't be

(15:36):
the right coach for the All Blacks.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Well, what I'm actually saying is that he could. He
could have been a poor choice for the He could
have been the wrong choice. I should say, I don't
want to be disrespectful. He could have been the wrong
choice or a poor choice for the Wallabies and the
right choice for the All Blacks, because I think the
psychology and the understanding of the teams, the players in

(16:03):
the pathways is different, and I think if it's you know,
next to being a PM, the head coach of the
Ads is hugely prestigious and I think Dave is an
authentic good person and so if you read any of
my commentary, he was he was a very decent man,
and I think that's a great starting point for any team.

(16:25):
But it was you know, yes I was chairman, but
it was it was a bored decision and everyone agreed
that we felt that we need to make a change. Now.
The reality is Australian rugby has been in the doldrums
for twenty years and we're trying to fix it. So,
you know, I sort of I look at it and
I go, there is a serendipity of this, like you could.
I think I think the the All Blacks definitely could

(16:49):
pull it off. I think they're up against it against
the South Africans. I mean the South Africans were trait
were planning for the twenty seven World Cup a week
after they returned home from twenty three. So so do
I look back on it, I would not have I
would not have changed the decision because there was so

(17:11):
much tied to us trying to get it right, and
I think we gave it over a really fair go.
I don't think we were bad people. I don't think
other than I mean Kiwis take great offense to you know,
any of their coaches who get sort of sacked. But
the reality is we're at thirty eight percent. We lost
to Italy for the first time ever. There were some

(17:34):
calls there that I think, you know, if you asked him,
you know, would he have made different would he have
made different calls? And so I just can't spend my
life looking in the rearview mirror, you know, I just think, hopefully, hopefully,
you know, by the time you know, all said and done,

(17:55):
some people think that, you know, I made a good
contribution in certain ways. I know a lot of people
disagree with certain certain things. But you know, when I
took over in twenty twenty, we had no media rite deal,
no CEO, and we lost twenty five million dollars. So

(18:16):
the very fact that the game's alive and I stepped
in and I said, of did my best, and so
everyone makes mistakes, but I don't. I don't, I don't.
I don't regret making that call. And it was it
was a tough call because we were worried about getting
the board, was worried about getting kicked out of the pools,
which ironically that's what happened. We got kicked out of
the pools. So there you go.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Just a Finnish famoush you mentioned. I mean, we all agree,
South Africa overwhelming favorite to win it again back end
of next year. Who was better placed out of the
All Blacks and the Wallabies to challenge them most sternly
next year?

Speaker 3 (18:57):
Oh the AADs.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Even on Australian soil.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Well, Interestingly, the South Africans used to say to me,
there was that famous test where Marika we played in
Adelaide and Merika Corrabell Betty did that amazing tackle. The
South Africans haven't enjoyed a brilliant run in the past
in Australia, but they're formidable, especially in World Cups, and

(19:27):
so their depth is almost frightening in terms of where
they're out at the moment. But you know, I think
you've got to kind of look at the data and
you go the AaB's over a long period of time
in big tournaments did very well. You look at Paris,
I mean, you guys were it could have you know,

(19:48):
there was there was one penalty call that could have
gone either way. I mean I was sitting with World
Rugby people who were going, God, I thought that was
a New Zealand penalty, not a South African one. So
the margins are so fine and so I worry that
our forwards we don't have enough depth in the fards.
We've got some good players, but you know they're pretty

(20:08):
brutal games and if you get a few injuries, you
know it may make it tough. But I want the
Wallabies to beat you and South Africa, so any anything
can happen, and that's the beauty of where we're at.
And then I think, you know, England, up until about
six weeks ago, we're looking like they were building momentum
and then the French have got a monster pack and

(20:31):
then populated amongst a lot of those teams and bloody
Australians that have left Australian rugby and working, we've got two.
We've got two people playing for Ireland. Emmanuel Mofo who's
seven foot one is from Western Sydney. If you look
him up online, he's got a thicker accent than I do.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
It's bizarre, always so interesting chatting to your Homish. Thanks
for being so generously the time. Really enjoyed the chat
as always.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Cheers and good luck thanks, no good.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Luck to you Toosh Hamish McLean and their former chair
of Rugby Australia plenty two to react to there if
you would like to of eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty nine, two ninety two on texts. A lot of
good texts coming in as well. Hamus mcclennan said, They're
one thing that really caught my attention. He said, Dava
and he didn't fully understand the Australians of the Wallabies job,

(21:26):
and that the psychology of New Zealand and Australian rugby
players is very different. Is that true? Are key we
and Australian sports people quite different? It is true, isn't it?
On the whole we are different from Australian sports people

(21:49):
when it comes to our attitudes to top level sport.
Now neither is right or wrong, but we are different.
We often hear, don't we, how hard nosed Australians are,
how driven they are to win regardless of what it takes,
and that by comparison, and we are perhaps sometimes a
little bit too nice. We don't put the foot on

(22:11):
the throat, we don't put winning ahead of everything else,
and that can sometimes cost us. I hear this a
lot with cricket in particular, how hard knows the Australians
are compared to compared to our Bullocks, but I'm happy
that we're different, very happy. Australia haven't had the Bletterisloe

(22:32):
Cups since two thousand and three, they haven't won a
World Cup since what nineteen ninety nine. I'm happy with
our approach over Theirs in rugby in particular, and it's
probably why we won't ever have an Australian coach of
the All Blacks. And who knows, maybe that is one
of the reasons Dave Anny and I guess to a

(22:53):
lesser extent, Joe Shmit didn't have great success with Australia
that it's too much of a clash of cultures. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty ninety two ninety two
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Speaker 2 (23:20):
There'd be coming up twenty seven to one lines open
on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Need to let
you know what's happened at McLean Park in Napier in
the last little while as well in the planket shield.
But let's get to the line, fellow, Shane.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
Biney, how are you good?

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Thank you Shane.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
Well, that last ten to fifteen minute conversation you just
had tells us why Australian rugby is no good. It
was just wishy washed your answers. He didn't answer the
questions directly. He was more worried about the New Zealand
South Africans. There's just no points to his answers. And
that's the point of Australian rugby at the moment. There's

(23:58):
just no point to it. Like yep, the club side
so sorry. The super rugby sides are reasonably competitive at
home that they obviously find themselves in third or fourth
place in the codes Winter Codes, and they don't really
know how to get out of that. That's why they're

(24:18):
losing players the Rugby League and then spending multi million
dollars to try and get one or two players back.
But that guy, the answers were just wishy washy. There
was no real authoritative answers there. That's why Australian rugby
is in the crap.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
Do you think they were right to get rid of
Dave Rennie.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
No, of course not.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (24:41):
Look, yeah they lost to Italy thirty four percent. They
thought they weren't going to get out of the group.
They didn't get out of the pool at the World Cup.
It didn't matter what coach they had, it was the
cattle that they've got. And yeah, the guy might have
had a good point about you know that not understanding
the way of Australian rugby, but who does Queen Queensland's

(25:03):
got a different way of thinking to New South Wales. Well,
they don't have a presence in Melbourne anymore. Act the
Brumbies are the Brumbies and Western Reds are just the
Western Reds and it's just a bit of an oddity
over there. So there's no real identity as an we know,
if you're an all black, you're an all black. You've

(25:25):
got an identity. You know what it's like to wear
the shirt and we all want to aspire to be
an all black when we were kids. But there's nothing
like that in the Wallabies. I watched the I watched
a bit of James James Slipper last night and you know,
saying about that he really wanted to play for Queensland

(25:46):
when he was a young fella, but never once did
he say about the Wallaby jersey. And I just think
that they're just they're just a bit lost on the
actual identity of what it means to be a Wallaby.
I mean, you look at those great players that they
had back in ninety nine when they won the World Cup.
Far Jones and those guys. They spoke about being in Australia,

(26:06):
you know what it meant to be a Wallaby. You
don't hear that from the Wallabies.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Now, no, yeah, and you hear it all the time
from our guys and the South Arians as Yeah. Tr
actually true, that is true too. You're right, you do
hear it a lot from them, and it is a
crowded marketplace over there. Shame we all know that, you know,
with NRL and AFL and cricket obviously being massive at
other sports as well, now starting to get a bit

(26:30):
of a foothold. You're right, they're in a battle for
a lot of things, battle for eyeballs, battle for sponsorship
dollars and battle for players, and you're right, there just
doesn't seem to be that diet in the wall desire
among young Australian boys and girls to grow up to
play rugby for Australia. It just doesn't seem to be there.

Speaker 7 (26:48):
The sports are that far professional now than what they
were in the seventies and eighties. So you know, rugby
league and AFL were professional back then as well, but
now you've got academies and those type of things, so
these these sports are picking these kids up a lot younger.
You remember when the one of the Oler brothers went
to rugby league or or we're going to go to

(27:10):
rugby league back in the eighties, it was an uproar,
absolutely uproar. But now these tids are getting picked up
at fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen before they actually play for
New South Wales or Act or Queensland, so you're not
hearing it anymore. They're getting picked up by the rugby
leagues or the AFLs and rugby unfortunately don't get a.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
Look at.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Good points. Well I made Shane, good to chat to
you mate, Thanks indeed, call back anytime. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty heaps throw on text as well
if you want to make your point eight hundred eighty
ten eighty spere line there for you to jump on.
Just looking at a couple of these texts here, I'll
read a couple out I just asked you before we do,
I just want to tell you what's happened in the
blanket shield at McLean Park in Napier. Sorry to jump

(27:55):
away from the rugby momentarily, but Brett Randall, the Central
District's paceman, has this morning taken five wickets in five balls,
bowling for CD against nd. Of the last ball of
his second over, which was the third over of Northern's innings,

(28:20):
he picked up the wicket of Henry Cooper and then
on the first four deliveries of his next over he
took the wickets of Jeet Reval, Joe Carter, Robbie O'Donnell
and Christian Clark. Five wickets in five balls. Now, I

(28:42):
don't want to have a can of worms by using
the wrong terminology. But that is called a triple hat trick.
Now you might say, well, it can't be a triple
hat trick. You'd have to get nine wickets for a
triple hat trick. But cricket terminology, like it or not,
is around three wickets from three balls. So what Brett

(29:06):
Randall has done here is referred to as a triple
hat trick. I don't actually like the term myself, I
must say, but he's taken He's taken wickets off three
consecutive balls, three times off balls one, two and three,
off balls two, three and four, and off balls three,
four and five. Therefore he is the owner of a

(29:26):
triple hat trick. Now, when he picked up those five
wickets off five balls, Northern were nine for the loss
of five. They've since gone through to forty seven for seven,
so in some ways I guess they have recovered pretty well.
But Brett Randall five wickets and five balls magnificent. Evan, Hello,

(29:52):
can you get it?

Speaker 8 (29:52):
Jason? Hey Sisley, I've only been listening to you for
the last couple of days, but man, you've put on
a good show, a really good radio show mate, So
well done.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
That's very kind.

Speaker 8 (30:02):
Just about the regulars shamed that just strings resin.

Speaker 5 (30:06):
Do you want you old man?

Speaker 8 (30:07):
I've played rugby. I played rugby, were not any more
but for a number of years, and I'm sort involved
with rugby CD paying touch and stuff and the things
he was saying before about the Audie kids getting picked
up by league. Man, we need to be worried here.
We have to be worried about them. We worry about ourselves.
We're getting absolutely pillaged.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
You're saying it happening, and you're saying it happening in
real time, are you.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (30:29):
Yeah, Like I mean, I played for in Auckland, I
played for the cut Out West and a number of
teams that we've got that's just shrinking, even even things
like presidents and social grades. The social grades is just
appeared completely. President grade is skeleton and those are the
fun grades. And you know, I've yeah, junior numbers seem
really good, but it's keeping the kids in it. And

(30:51):
also you've got the league. He's coming over raiding the academies,
reading reading the junior high school stocks. They're going, I mean,
look at the he said, there was that guy McDonald
that played for Storm on Tuesday Night. He's an Aucklander.
I'm pretty sure he came from Rugby.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yeah. And I don't think it's just just Rugby League either, Evan.
I think there are a lot of options available. And
we did a piece on the show a couple of
weeks ago about the options now available to young female
athletes and you know, it used to be netball or
nothing for them. Now there's all sorts of things. Same
with the same with our young boys.

Speaker 9 (31:22):
Man.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
They can play basketball, they can do combat sports, snow sports,
all sorts of different things. No, you're right, even we
do need to be you know, rather than look across
the ditch and say, ah, look at you having your
sport pillaged. You're right, we do need to be aware
of what's happening here.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
And now the NFL are here too, mates. They've got
a base apparently they've got to base it up on
the Gold Coast. And you know, the NFL is going
to start taking a lot of talented kids at a
younger age and putting them into those academies.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, interesting times, Evan. Hey, thanks for calling mate, callback anytime.
Good to chat to you. Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty is our and now we're going to get
to the Golden Shares before one.

Speaker 10 (31:56):
Dallas Hello mate, yeah, pie me yeah, sever I always
love your shows too, keep up the.

Speaker 11 (32:02):
Good work, fantastic, Thank you, Elis.

Speaker 7 (32:05):
And I'll and I enjoy of that.

Speaker 11 (32:06):
Interview with that that Australian.

Speaker 7 (32:09):
Rugby guy I thought he was.

Speaker 11 (32:11):
He made a lot of good points, especially about South
Africans been able to field two teams could win the
World Cup.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
That was pretty scary.

Speaker 11 (32:19):
Yeah, but I think rugby league here is on the
increase too. In rugby units has problems here in this country,
so I think the whole thing is changing here as well.
That if the Warriors have a good year, competitive like

(32:41):
the other night, then yeah, I can see league gradually
supplanting rugby union in this country as well.

Speaker 12 (32:49):
But who knows.

Speaker 11 (32:51):
But meanwhile, we've got a chance tomorrow morning if of
a World Cup victory in India.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I know, I know, I'm getting nervous even talking about it,
and I'm actually quite quite pleased to got the radio
show the past a few hours Roche and Revender is
on the show after one incidentally, But yeah, I'm quite
nervous about this. How are you feeling about it?

Speaker 10 (33:09):
Well, anything can happen in t twenty. You just have
someone luck for now and come off and we have
good batting debts. The bowlers are kind of a worry
leaking too many, but I think we'll be competitive and
who knows, there might be pressure India in front of
one hundred and twenty thousand.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Ten exactly, Dallas exactly. I wouldn't want to turn up
and disappoint them. I'd feel the weight of that pressure.
Good on you, mate, thanks for calling. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten, righty Steve, Hi mate.

Speaker 9 (33:41):
There's it going good?

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (33:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (33:45):
My point on rugby as i'm'ving around the block a
bit with rugby's done't been of couching and cg and
follow the game and canseling and still watch club games
and in PC and blah blah blah all blacks and
live and diebler. People won't like this, but I think
league in particular is the biggest scam code in the world.
There would be no other sport in the world where,
in particular code rates and collagers another coach like league

(34:09):
has done to rugby. My theory on it should be
as rugby players, even young at forteen, sign a contract
saying any money that's been invested in you through scholarships
and coaching and all that, when the NRAL scouts come over,
which they can't stop, they have to fund that money
back to rugby before the contract physically starts at that point.

Speaker 2 (34:31):
Does that why?

Speaker 13 (34:32):
What?

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah? Yeah, makes sense? But why.

Speaker 9 (34:35):
Well, on the grounds of that rugby player who he
or she has been coached, developed and money invested in
them to be the rugby player they may or may
not turn.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
Into in the future.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
So at fourteen, at fourteen years old, all the.

Speaker 9 (34:52):
People that are getting paid at first thing level and
maybe fifteen they're paying two hundred thousand dollars for coaches
in perse fifteen and rugby, they're throwing a lot of
money into those players through scholarships and gym work and
all that. Two you've become professional acut player and then
someone comes along with taps them on the shoulder and
buy the finnished product. So I'm sure I don't have

(35:13):
football with You're more into that well than I am.
Surely the person that's coach developed that code where even
if it's anything to get return the investment, So that's
all it is.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, yeah, Steve, I understand where you're coming from. I do,
But I think it's incumbent on the code to make
that code attractive for the players to stay in. At thirteen, fourteen,
fifteen years old, these kids still have a lot of options.
They have a lot of choice. The talented ones are
often good at more than one thing, and I think
it's incumbent on the sport to keep them interested, to

(35:46):
keep them in the game, rather than a sport coming
in saying hey, come over here and we'll do this,
that and the other thing. I'm not sure that you
have to have to, you know, pay any compensation to
the sports that that person had previously played. What if
they'd been a good basketball player, what if they played
a bit of AFL cricket? Do those sports get compensated

(36:08):
as well. I know what you're saying, Steve. I understand
what you're saying. I just think it's it's got a
few little fishooks in it. Accord it to One News Talks,
he'd be back in a.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Moment where the weekend's biggest calls for me Weekend Sport
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Speaker 2 (36:26):
That'd be coming up eleven to one room for maybe
one more call if you'd like to make a comment
on anything you've heard this out eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty Well, I get to Golden Shares a bit
later on in the afternoon. I do want to cover
it off though it's an iconic event held in Masterton
and some good key. We success there last night, so
we will cover the off. Paul says, let's be clear, Piney,

(36:47):
there's no raping and pillaging going on. It's called kids
making a choice. And if it's Disneyland rather than Rainbow's end,
so be it. I think we all understand the analogy
you're drawing their Paul.

Speaker 13 (37:00):
Thanks.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Indeed, hamis McLennan approven operator and the catalyst to the
turn around of Australian rugby, although with some controversy, David
Kirk is just superior all round, as is currently being demonstrated.
Having worked at a senior level in Australia, I share
the view Australians certainly have a different psyche, not better,

(37:22):
just different, like I think anybody, and I'm sure many
of you have dealt in business with people from across
the Tasman and much as we do share a lot
of the same character traits, we are also in subtle
and not so subtle ways different. Another text here, the

(37:45):
Ossies aren't just hard nosed in sport, Jason, they're hard
nosed in business too. I hope we show them up
at the World Cup to prove that being hard nosed
isn't always the formula for winning, and therein lies the
beauty of this whole discussion, the fact that there's no
right or wrong here. If the Australian way of approaching rugby,
or approaching sport and general was the best way, then

(38:08):
why haven't they won a Rugby World Cup since nineteen
ninety nine. Why haven't they had the Bledisloe Cups in
two thousand and three. In the latest T twenty Cricket
World Cup, why do they get knocked out in the
group stages. There's no right or wrong here. There are
just different approaches to things. Brett Randall, this is outstanding

(38:32):
from Brett Randall. Not only has he taken five wickets
and five balls, he's also taken seven wickets today seven
he has seven for seventeen. Crazy Northern have actually sort
of put a bit of a rearguard action in here.
They were at one stage fifteen for the loss of seven.

(38:54):
Brett Randall had all seven. He could do the oldne
all ten wickets because they're still only seven down. Northern.
They have though, started to claw their way back in
Baratt Popli, who had to watch all of these wickets
pretty much fall from the other end is thirteen not out.
Tim Pringle, batting at number nine, is unbeaten on twenty one.

(39:14):
He's decided I'm not going to muck about. I'm going
to take it to the likes of Brett Randall and
the other CD bowlers. So he's twenty one not out,
fifty four for seven. They're chasing Central's three seventy three,
so still a long long way away from even even
avoiding the follow on. I just hope Brett Randal gets
all ten. I hope he gives it the Ageazz Patel

(39:37):
from Dunedin where the White Ferns are playing Zimbabwe in
the second of their One Day internationals. Seventy four for
seven Zimbabwe, and they've had a batter retire hurt, or
rather a rather grim set of circumstances that saw they're
opening batter retire hurt. So they're effectively eight down seventy

(39:59):
four for seven on the scoreboard. Melly Kerr not quite
Brett Randall numbers, but six overs four for sixteen. Molly
Penfold has three for seventeen. Pinty national coach as a
man managers, says Jordan managing Kiwi teams is buying into
our rich and diverse Moldi and Pacific culture and the

(40:21):
pride we put in the jerseys. Being coaches of Australian
teams not rich on culture for whatever reason, they rely
on technical coaching. Kiwi coaches have never worked over there,
even in the NRL. Thanks Jordan seven to one News
Stalks EDB.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
The biggest names in sport are here Weekend Sport with
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Speaker 2 (40:43):
EDB News Talks HEB four to one. Our New Zealand
cricket statistician Francis Payne has confirmed Brett Randall as the
first player in New Zealand first class history to take
five wickets in five balls, the first ever in New
Zealand first class cricket. He also took six wickets and
eight balls, the first guy ever to do that as well.
John says Jason. The issue with Dave Rennie at Australia

(41:05):
they expected a fast food result. Dave's a craftsman of
the game. He builds depth and a deep squad, as
he did with the Chiefs. My concern as Dave Rennie
will again be expected to deliver a happy meal with
the All Blacks so close to a World Cup. Nice analogy. John,
Let's hope not. Francis says, will you be talking about
last night's game Blues Crusaders keen to hear such a
great win, Yes, Francis. Actually Paul Tental going to join

(41:27):
us after one o'clock to talk about that. But first
up after the one o'clock news to India, we go
Rachen Ravendra after the news.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
A head off the field.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
You've got a score enough.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
It's all on Weekend Sports with Jason Vine on your
home of sports News.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Talks at ME one seven on News Talks every this
weekend Sport. I'm Jason Pine. Mark Kelly is here as well.
I said before one that Brett Randall's five wickets and
five balls was the best in New Zealand first class
cricket history. That is true, but it is also the
time anybody in the entire history of first class cricket

(42:10):
globally has taken five wickets and five balls. Think about
how long first class cricket has been played around the world,
how many first class matches there have been. Goodness only
knows what that number is. No one before today had
ever taken five wickets in five balls. Brett Randall with

(42:32):
a wonderful slice of history. Congratulations to him to get
him on the show. Eight past one. Speaking of cricket,
the Black Caps are on the brink of more history
as they prepare to face India in the final of
the ICC Men's T twenty World Cup tomorrow morning two thirty.
New Zealand time. One of the key figures in New
Zealand's run to the final or Rounder Rutch and Ravendra.

Speaker 14 (42:56):
That should be another for Revendra All his third Finelum
with the catch. The all round are doing the job
with the ball going up. It's going up, Mitchell getting in,
getting in big hands safety underneath that Revenger.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Has got four Ruch and Revendeer. It joins us now
out of India. Rutch and thanks for your time. A
World Cup final whatevery young cricketer dreams about. I'm sure,
how are you feeling in the lead up to such
a massive occasion.

Speaker 15 (43:26):
Yeah, for sure, obviously it's something your dreamail as.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
A kid and to see yourself play on this we
have the opportunity to play on the stage is pretty special.
And playing India in their home conditions in front of
you know, one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty thousand people.

Speaker 15 (43:39):
In the stadium is going to be truly incredible.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
Obviously that the nerves and stuff are always there and
the lead up for training and stuff, but no, it's
it would be good fun.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
The semi final win over South Africa by nine wickets
utterly emphatic. What did that performance do for the confidence
of the team heading into the final?

Speaker 15 (43:58):
Yeah, I think it's massive.

Speaker 6 (43:59):
I mean, when you're in tournament cricket, you sort of
get on a roll and end up playing, you know,
a bit of good cricket and each game you take
it a little bit of comfort. I think something that
fat and fatic, the way Siphan ben chase that down
was incredible and I think leave us a good said
for the final.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
I just want to take you back to the batting innings.
You came in to join Finellen at one hundred and
seventeen for one, you're chasing one seventy. You get through
to one thirty seven for one after ten overs. You
take a single off the third ball of the eleventh
over that takes New Zealand to one thirty eight for one.
Finellen then goes four six one to keep the strike

(44:35):
four four six six four. You have won by nine
wickets with seven overs to spare. He's gone from fifty
eight to one hundred not out in eleven balls. What
was it like watching that innings from the other end.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
It's honestly undelabed by I think you look at our
two openers and you see the way they go about it.

Speaker 15 (44:55):
For me, it's honestly unfathomable. Sometimes the power and the hitting,
it's it's.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
Almost a different game, you know, And it's it's awesome
to have that power at the top of the order.

Speaker 15 (45:03):
I mean when I walked.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
Out about I sort of had an inkling fin was
going to get there because it was just the rhythm
and timing.

Speaker 15 (45:10):
Everything he was showing was incredible.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
It was outstanding. I spoke to Fin Allen last week
on the radio. Actually he was frustrated, he said, by
getting twenties and thirties and not going on with them.
Did you sense a real desire in Finaleen to convert
a big one in such a big game?

Speaker 10 (45:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (45:27):
It's always an interesting one in betting, and finally not
it's like it's sort of the harder you try to
push on after starts, the worse it gets because all
of a sudden, you know, sort of milk a little
bit or not for the team first.

Speaker 15 (45:38):
And I think that's Finn one of his biggest strengths.

Speaker 6 (45:41):
He sort of always takes the game on in his
own way, and sometimes it comes off and like an
amazing not ote hundred the other day, But even if
he gets twenty or thirty, he gets us off to
an amazing start. So either way, you know, whatever he's doing,
it's contributing to our team.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Your bowling role, right, and at this tournament's been fascinating
to watch your bowl eleven wickets, a terrific economy rate.
What's been the key to finding success with the ball
in these conditions?

Speaker 15 (46:08):
I guess just trying to use my skill and ability.

Speaker 6 (46:11):
I think obviously it's amazing to have Santana next to
me and being able to chat to them about a
few things, but just trying to spin the ball hard
and keep it, you know, the life hard for the
batter is I guess for me being a vestment primarily
it's quite handy because I get to think like about it,
you know what I mean? So I can hopefully be
a bit defensive when I feel like they're coming or
keeping out of the ark and stuff. So just trying

(46:33):
to stay one step ahead of the game. Obviously that
the wickets and street ankle are quite conducive for spin bowling,
but you know, you get back over to here to
India and it's sitting there a bit flatter. So it's
always always an adaptation piece in our game.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I've seen you've spoken about varying your pace, your ceam,
angle lines, lenks, that sort of thing to make things
difficult for opposition batters. You're only bowling twenty four deliveries, max,
aren't you in any one game? How much planning actually
goes into each spell in a T twenty game?

Speaker 6 (47:01):
Yeah, it's It's always interesting because I probably plan a
bit more with a bat than the ball. I sort
of not necessarily just rock up, but it's a bit
more of natural craft for me in terms of my preparation.
I guess we talk a lot as a spin group, though,
and we talk about each batter and what lines we
can bolt to them and how to shut them down
and fields.

Speaker 15 (47:20):
Et cetera.

Speaker 6 (47:21):
So that that goes quite That makes the difference in
terms of what we plan for, and I mean a
lot of the time it's instinct, right, you get a
feeling you want to bowl this ball more than not.
You trust your gut and hopefully execute because it can
get quite complicated out there.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
So India's batting lineup stacked with power and a lot
of left handers as well. How tricky a challenge does
that present for you as a left arm spinner.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
Yeah, sure, I mean the matchup's not really quite there
left up spin to left handers in today's T twenty game,
it's you're always going to be a little bit under
the put because they're gonna want to take you down.
But I think that's that's quite an exciting opportunity. You know,
you potentially a chance for a wicket, and you know,
you feel like you're in the game. And obviously it's
you know you can get it for a few bombs,
but that's part of the game. But I think for us,

(48:08):
it's just understanding who you're bowling to, what your role
is at that time. Obviously, it's nice having Satin at
the other end because I don't score too much of him,
so they always try to take me down a little bit.

Speaker 15 (48:19):
But Yeah, the matchup game would be huge.

Speaker 6 (48:21):
And the cool thing is we've got spin that spins
able both ways in terms of a couple off spinners
and a couple left dump office, so we've got bases covered,
which is quite nice.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Indeed. So a final in India against India at this
massive stadium, a huge home crowd, a lot of noise,
how do you block that out, ruch and and focus
on the job at hand when you're out there in
the middle.

Speaker 15 (48:42):
Yeah, it's always an interesting one. I guess.

Speaker 6 (48:44):
The whole thing about blocking it like it's going to
be there, I think first of all, accepting almost the
pressure and what it's going to feel like, because you
know you're going up against the billion plus people who
are obviously going to be behind India, and the noise
at that grand the met A bed is crazy. So
for us, it's just keeping it simple, I think, and

(49:04):
being as present as possible that and focusing on the
next play, you know, the next ball, whatever is that,
whatever that importance is. Because in finals it's so easy
to get hit yourself, it's so easy to look at
the winning and losing of it. But there's a reason
why we got there, and I think that's by you know,
playing each moment. So and I think there's no real
way to completely block out the crowd. I mean, they're
always going to be there, but we're not bad. I

(49:26):
don't really hear it. So hopefully I combat for some time.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
So the black Caps I mean close and global tournaments
a number of times in recent years. What would it
mean to this group to finally win a World Cup?

Speaker 6 (49:40):
Yeah, it's been awesome, you know, the black Caps team
over the last you know, ten or so years has
been amazing and we've we've made a lot of world
events and we've had a you know fiarshear of heartbreak
and the time being as well. So look, it's obviously
if we go opportunity it'll be as it will be fantastic.
But either way, I'm proud of the group and how

(50:01):
we've evolved and developed as a T twenty team, and
super proud of the results. And hopefully we're inspiring evone
back home, because that's really what's important here.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
You're certainly doing that. So just to finish, when the
anthems are all done and you look around that stadium
before the first ball, whether you're out there in the
field or you're sitting there with your pads on watching
Finalen and Tim Seifer get ready to face the first ball.
What do you want the mindset of the black Caps
to be in that moment?

Speaker 15 (50:29):
I guess come.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
The thing is with these games, there's always a lot
of distractions, a lot of chaos around, right, So for
give me calm and shell and understand what the task.

Speaker 15 (50:40):
At hand is. I think that will go a long way.

Speaker 6 (50:42):
But also playing our way, but also not you know,
fearing the big moments and taking them on, because that's
T twenty credit.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
You know.

Speaker 6 (50:50):
It's if you take a step back you find out,
you know, you're one or two balls of that, you
end up losing the game.

Speaker 15 (50:55):
It's such fine margins. So it's taking the game on
and do it in that way.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Well, I can tell you Rach and this won't surprise you.
Many thousands of people are sitting there alarms for just
before two thirty tomorrow morning to get up and watch
your take on India in this T twenty final. Very
exciting times back here, very exciting for you as well.
Congrats on your part in getting New Zealand to the final.
All the best and thanks as always for the chat.

Speaker 15 (51:19):
That stress. Yes, party appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
No, I appreciate you joining us right and thanks indeed,
Ruch and Ravendra there ahead of the T twenty World
Cup final. You look at his numbers in this T
twenty World Cup, eleven wickets at an average of just
ten point six four and an economy of six point
eight eight. Look anything under seven runs and over in
T twenty cricket. We know how good that is. Mitchell
Santna is another with superb economy at this tournament. He's

(51:45):
only taken two wickets across the tournament, but his runs
parover just six point three three runs parover. Ready good economy.
And Matt Henry is the other one who has combined
wickets with economy and in amongst all of this as
well a flight back home to be here for the
birth of his latest child and then back to India

(52:09):
like around trip in the space of about four or
five days, nine wickets for one hundred and eighty six
runs and average of about twenty his economy seven point
sixty five runs per over. So the economy of New
Zealand's bowlers has been rarely really integral to their success.
And then you look at the batting and you can't

(52:30):
go past these two at the top. What an inspired
decision to select both Tim Seiford and Fin Allen for
this tournament outside of central contracts for the Black Apps,
guys who make their living traveling the world and playing
franchise cricket. Seifered two hundred and seventy four runs at

(52:52):
an average of forty five and a strike rate of
one hundred and sixty one. Finellen one hundred, two hundred
and eighty nine runs and an average of fifty seven,
striking it over two hundred, including that absolutely remarkable one
hundred last time out. Need to show of hands. We
can do it by text. Who's getting up for this? Look?
I know that you don't have to. You can watch it,

(53:13):
you know on delay. You can get up a bit
later and watch it on delay and avoid the score
or Whatever'll get up in the morning and just check
the score, that sort of thing. But I feel like
this is one you've got to get up live for.
And here's here's what I would encourage you to do.
Set your alarm for two twenty two tomorrow morning. Nathan

(53:34):
asht all time two twenty two. The game is set
to begin at about two thirty, so unless you want
to watch the build up, which is always good to watch,
but to twenty two is when I've set my alarm
for I encourage you to do the same, Mark, will
you join me?

Speaker 16 (53:52):
I am definitely joining. Yeah, it's going to be it's
going to be a push. It's not going to be
it's going to be messy. Looks lext face it. I
think thirty six hours later it's going to be pretty
ugly on Tuesday night.

Speaker 7 (54:06):
Not be great, but I'm prepared.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
To do it.

Speaker 16 (54:09):
But look when you see about the Randolph performance, I
just jumped online and rewounds the YouTube and look, twelve balls,
seven wickets, last ball of the second over over the
work at bowls Cooper top of off. Then first ball

(54:30):
of the second off the stirred over round the wicket
bowls Jeep Raval top of off. These are great balls
when you see them. There's no bunny stuff going on
in terms of what he accomplishes. Then he knicks Carter
Joe Carter behind to the keeper, really impressive. Then he

(54:52):
Robbie o'donald nexts them to about fourth slip.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
You can't see, but it's pretty.

Speaker 16 (54:57):
Square the way it goes then Clark, Christian Clark plays
the ball down and behind himself. It bounces off and
it bounces up and down onto the bail and takes
the bail off. That's the only bunny Pomari's league before.

Speaker 5 (55:17):
Like that's straight, it's just plum.

Speaker 16 (55:20):
And then kugar line, which is he's caught at mid
on after three after honest fourth ball, and that's just
seven and it's just wild to watch. It really is
very impressive. I don't even know who this guy is.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
Who is Rander?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
I thought you were a brother. I thought you were
his brother the way you've outlined it, or Mark I thought.
I mean, this is just outstanding commentary from you, going
through all seven of us wickets. You know, Brenda's been
around for a while as a you know, he's been
a very very handy domestic bowler for CD for a while.
I think sometimes it's just your day. And as you say,

(55:59):
these aren't caught on the boundary, these are you know,
as you say, two or three of them bold and
lb w court behind caught the what's called on This
is a superb skirl.

Speaker 16 (56:08):
What you want a roundly good bowling, really good bowling.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
You want to get the other three. Now, yeah, you
wanted to get the other three, you wanted to get ten?

Speaker 3 (56:16):
You do.

Speaker 16 (56:17):
Popley and Pringle, I will say they've sort of dug in.
I'll give them their due at the moment they're popularly
sturdying from off forty four and Pringles twenty one off
forty seven. So the best more than more than three
fits of the runs. There's hope if you're if you're

(56:40):
an MD fan, if you're not, come on Randall.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Come on Random, good on your mark. Great to hear
you call now you'll be interested to know also that
Brett Randall isn't the only one to have taken seven
wickets today. Mellly Kerr has just taken the final Zimbabwe
wicket to bowl them out for one hundred and two.
Merely Kerr nine point one overs one maiden seven for
thirty four, seven for thirty four for Merely Kerr by

(57:06):
far her best One Day International figures. So seven wickets
the order of the day, domestically and internationally terrific. One
twenty two. When we come back inside the Blues camp
will go they've beaten the Crusaders for the first time,
not the first time in a while, but certainly it
doesn't happen very often. They did it last night at
Eden Park. Paul Tito, assistant coach of the Blues.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
After this, no TMO, no DRS, just your call on
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Speaker 2 (57:40):
Twenty five Round four of SUPERABI Pacific's all done. The
Brumby is still on top despite a thirty four to
thirty one loss at home in Canberra to the Reds.
The Highlander is digging deep to beat the Western four
thirty nine thirty one in Dunedin and the Blues into
the top four a twenty nine to thirteen win over
the Crusaders at Eden Park last night.

Speaker 17 (57:58):
There's the siren Funaki kicks it into touch and the
Blues saint don't forget about us. We are back on
track in Super Rugby twenty twenty seven with a statement
win over the defending champions twenty ninth thirteen and Eden.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Park Blues assistant coach Paul Tittel is whetheres that looked
like one of the Blues' most complete performances of the season. No, no,
it's only early, Paul, But how pleased were you and
the rest of the coaching staff with last night?

Speaker 18 (58:23):
Yeah, you know, just to get the win against the
Crusader's team has been not easy to come by for
the Blues in the last few years. Obviously, Dults played
ae hundredth game last weekend and that was his third win,
So you know, we've struggled to beat them, but I
feel that, you know, throughout the season we've been building

(58:43):
quite nicely and potentially hadn't been getting the results that
that came our way, but you know, we've been trusting
the process and enjoying each other's company and building together
something nice and special. And you know, I think hopefully
there was a start of something from that result last night.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
After conceding late to lose to the Brumbies last week,
did you sense a the playing group that a response
was coming from that?

Speaker 18 (59:10):
That's what it felt like at training all week. You know,
we're just slowly building and putting those blocks in place,
and even last night we went perfect by any means,
but I feel we're building, which has been pleasing.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
The Crusaders didn't score a single point in the second half.
How satisfied were you with the defense, of attitude and
the organization after halftime.

Speaker 18 (59:35):
Yeah, it's important, you know. I mean, you know, the
Cannabury teams, Crusader teams that you play, you know, they
normally score just before halftime and just after halftime. They
put a lot of pressure on you by doing so.
So for us to start well in that second half
and take control of the game was pleasing. A massive
cutos to Craig McGrath and the defense group that are

(59:59):
leading the space. And you know, I thought we saw
some real growth in our defense last night. And then
we're a willingness to work hard for each other.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
Interesting you say that about the times the Crusaders are
most dangerous. They did score a couple of tries before
halftime when Caleb Clark was in the bin from nineteen
three to nineteen thirteen. Any worry lines at that point.

Speaker 18 (01:00:21):
Yeah, potentially, just a couple of week moments that we had,
you know, a lost line out which was a miscall,
you know, I mean, just those those little things that
become big things and we just give them opportunity and
we know how good they are. If you give these
themes a sniff or an opportunity, you know, they're more
than capable of scoring points. And they look pretty easy

(01:00:46):
when they did that. So yep, no, it's something that
we need to work on. And obviously playing with fifteen
men all help us.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Bona. Barrett was a late inclusion into the starting fifteen
here was event initially slated to come off the bench.
How late a call was that? And a Stephen petifecta, Okay.

Speaker 18 (01:01:04):
Yes, Stee, he's sustaining another injuries, which is which is
disappointing for him. You know, he's but hard to get
back and you know, hopefully won't be on the sideline
too long. But I don't know what the prognosis is
on that, but you know he's he's been he's been
good for us, Stevie, and we're going to need him
throughout the year, so we you know, we'll get him

(01:01:25):
back at some stage.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Scene not a bad guy to have coming in. It
looked like he hadn't been away boating.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
Barrett.

Speaker 18 (01:01:31):
Yeah, I actually spoke to him after the game and
he his legs were a bit heavy and his legs
are burning theres they always are, you know, it doesn't
actually matter how much work you've done in the preseason.
You know, that first game always hurts, So it was
good to have him back out there, and you know,
he controlled the game well and you know I'll be happy,
He'll be happy without any minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
At the other end of the experienced scar, we're seeing
some younger Blues players really grow into their time in
the Jersey, the likes of Tory and Barnes, Shay Clark,
Cody Vai. How encouraged are you by the depth that
you're building in the Blues.

Speaker 18 (01:02:05):
It's exciting and you know, I do bet most of you.
We look at our development team to team tie. They've
been going really well and performing and it's putting pressure
on the coaches to get the selection right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:17):
So it's a good headache to have.

Speaker 18 (01:02:19):
Obviously, we've we've been getting a few things and there's
other guys getting opportunities. You know, you named Torrian Barnes
and Cody Vaile. I thought was outstanding last night. You know,
I put Josh Berry in that bracket too, Like he's
really leading the charge for our foods this year. His
stats are high and his work rates massive, and we're
really enjoying this growth from this, the younger generation that

(01:02:41):
are coming through the Blues.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
I heard Caleb Clark afterwards talk about Dot and Papale
He's one hundredth, which you referenced before, and while he
brought it up a week ago, it was kind of celebrated.
I guess on home stow there last night. How how
much do you mark milestones like that? Internally?

Speaker 18 (01:02:58):
Yeah, it's a big thing at the Blues. You know,
to play one hundred games of Super rugby is as
a massive achievement. Doubts as a speak man, and you
know we surely missed when he when he leaves after
this year, but I know that he's you know he's
really he's really leading away and rulling the troops a
share to make sure he goes out with a bang,
and you know where he's a he's a highly respected

(01:03:22):
man in our group on and off the field. He's
a great leader and you know we love him to bits.
And you know, whatever has happened, and you know at
the higher at the higher teams for the last couple
of years, it's it's bloody sad to see him go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Indeed, one of Pacific a up next for you someday
afternoons a week today back at Eton Park. They've had
a challenging season, haven't they. Will there be a chance
to rest some guys, maybe give some other guys a
few minutes.

Speaker 18 (01:03:48):
I think the key will be our willingness to you know,
just get out there and put the Blues d NA
L and on the park. You know, I'm sure there
will be a couple of changes, but you know, we
know what it's like and with my honor, you know,
they they tipped us up last year, so we're under
our loss. How tough the game will be and we're
going to have to be on our game, and we

(01:04:09):
want to keep growing what we've done the last couple
of weeks. We know we don't want to be going
two steps forward to one back, so we need to
keep growing what we're doing and become better every week.
So you know, I mean, I'm sure there'll be a
couple but hopefully, you know, we just got to keep going,
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Hey, thanks Paul, appreciate you taking the time to chat
to us. Paul Tentel, assistant coach of the Blues after
their win at Eden Park last night over the Crusaderes
twenty nine points to thirteen. So after four completed rounds,
the Brumbies are top fifteen points, then the Chiefs on thirteen,
the Hurricanes eleven, the Blues and the war Tars both
on ten points.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
What are we?

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
One thirty three. New Zealand have won five of six
titles at the Golden Shares World Sharing and Wall Handling
Championships in Masterton. Roland Smith and Joel Hannaday among the stars. Now,
speaking of stars, what a de light to welcome into
the studio on his way home after this iconic event.
Host the country, Jamie McKay. I feel like I should

(01:05:08):
have rolled the red carpet out, Jamie. Lovely to see you.

Speaker 19 (01:05:12):
Well lovely to see you Piney. You can't beat Wellington
on a good day, and this is not a good day.
It was beautifully fine and sunny when I left the
Wira Rapper.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Yeah, maybe a good day will be along shortly. We
can never count on it. Here in the Capitol. Golden
Shares twenty twenty six is all done. Tell us about
some of the highlights and the success for the Kiwi sharers.

Speaker 19 (01:05:32):
Yeah, look, it was a great weekend for the Kiwi
sharers and wool handlers. Of course, this year coincided with
the World Sharing and wall Handling championships as well, and
you honestly couldn't have scripted a better finish. Roland Smith's
a bit of a friend of the country. The radio
show that I run doesn't rate as well as yours,
piney I, but I try him my best and it

(01:05:53):
was so good. This is a guy who's effectively come
out of retirement. Look, he's won eight Golden Shares titles,
he's won one previous world title. These days, he likes
diggers and tractors, he's got a big contracting business, he's
running a farm, he was running a sharing gang, and
he's just he barely gets any time to get on
the hand piece himself. He's just a magnificent athlete. And

(01:06:15):
he was able to come back and win that world
title last night, and that's what he was after. He
had to go at the double obviously the Golden Shares
Open title as well, but that I think he just
ran out of juice in the end because he's not
probably fit for competitive sharing, but he's just so good.
His quality is so good. He was able to pip

(01:06:35):
Toer Henderson. So it was fantastic. You know, those two
guys won the world title on the Friday Tower retained
the Golden Shares Open as we said, and Roland won
the World Championships. Joel Nra cleaning up in the wall
handling great weekend for the kiwis.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Absolutely and it's still a massive event, isn't it. Masterden
just comes alive. I remember my very first radio job,
was it Radio whited Upper in nineteen ninety two into
nineteen ninety three, and the Golden Shears was enormous. Then say, now.

Speaker 19 (01:07:07):
Did you have like a hot jock music voice back
in those days? Pony Well, Hi, I'm Jason pine Well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I must say I do remember that I had to
MC the Golden Shears karaoke competition that year. Was there
a karaoke competition last night or across the weekend?

Speaker 19 (01:07:25):
No, there wasn't a karaoke competition, but interestingly we could
have done with one because Rowena Duncan you know Rowena,
my former offsider, was one of the EMC's. They've got
very good mcs and commentators there, but they had a
bit of a balls up if I can use those words.
On your show, Piney with the Sheep, someone mixed them
up and we had like a forty minute wait before

(01:07:45):
we could get onto the World Machine Sharing title that
Roland Smith eventually won. So poor old Rowena and the
other EMCs were padding for time. They were wandering around
the audience talking to all and Sundry Chippy was there
with Karen MacNulty. Kieren obviously has a lot of big
connection with the Golden Shares, a former bookie, so he's
right on the money there. So we could have done

(01:08:07):
with the karaoke competition to kill a bit of time.
And because in the good old days they had miss
Golden Shares, that's no longer politically correct, no, but I
sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Feel as though if you were organizing the Golden Shares
logistically you make sure the sheep are right, you know.
Was it just an unfortunate mix up?

Speaker 19 (01:08:26):
Well, someone's head or roll Eventually it was a bit
of an unfortunate mix up. They would call it a
ball's up or a boxing up the sheep and to
use farming terms. But see for that World Sharing title,
the one that roll in one. They had three different
types of sheep, so they had four pirindale, six crossbred
long wall that's a four fleece and then ten second share,

(01:08:50):
a big, big two tooth young sheep. That a second share.
So there's three different types of sheep and three different
wall types. So yeah, someone left the gate open somewhere
and anyhow we got there.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
In the end.

Speaker 19 (01:09:02):
It was a bit of a late finish, but it
was a fairy tale finish.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Roland.

Speaker 19 (01:09:07):
This will be it for him. He was out there
to get that world title.

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
He got it.

Speaker 19 (01:09:12):
Now Joel Henery now has I think twelve or thirteen
open titles in the wall handling at the Golden Shares.
Rumor is that he's going to go hunting Sir David
Fagan's sixteen open titles in the machine sharing to maybe
be the greatest competitor at the Golden Shares.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I don't think he will be.

Speaker 19 (01:09:29):
All due respect to Joel, because David, Sir David Fagan
is an absolute legend. But no, look what wonderful occasion
the War Memorial Stadium. It's called there. The heat's well
and truly on, and it was on last night, and
you know we count down now three years. I think
in the World Champs are going to be in Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
The physical demands of sharing, Jamie, you just give us
an idea of just how tough it is on bodies
to do this.

Speaker 19 (01:09:58):
Well, I know a weave it about it, pininey, because
in a past life I was like a farmer sharer,
not I did enough sharing to know it's this is
just too hard a job, you know, like I could
knock out two hundred a day. These guys will do
six hundred a day, or some of the world records
are eight hundred a day. That puts it sort of
into perspective. But it is that they are super athletes.

(01:10:20):
These guys. They not only share all day the Toller
Henderson's and these guys are training in the gym all
the time. They're superb athletes. They say that a full
day sharing like a world record attempt, is the equivalent
of running two Olympic class marathons end on end. So
it involves amazing fitness and amazing coordination. I mean that

(01:10:44):
these guys, a lot of them, would have been top
sports people had they chosen to go down another field.
They're just genetically better than the rest of us.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Another great weekend, No doubt you'll cover it off on
your supremely popular country show. You talk about ratings. Most
of us can only dream of the ratings that you
pull and Jamie, so look, I thank you for much
for the boost you.

Speaker 19 (01:11:07):
Give A week one got a studio with my face
plas that over it like yours? Did you get sick
of looking at yourself?

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Tell I do it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
But they need to change that screen, don't they.

Speaker 19 (01:11:16):
We've got a big tractor at our studio.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
I think I'd forfe one of those. Yeah, I'd rather
than a screen with my face on it. Jamie, great
to see you, mate, Thanks for stopping.

Speaker 19 (01:11:26):
And thank you Piney.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Great to be here, Jamie McKay. Hear him on the
country across the ZIB network weekdays between twelve and one.
On Golden Shears twenty twenty six, Well are we twenty
one away from two? Let's take a break. James mcconey
on the other side.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Talks He Been Weekend Sports seventeen to two. James mcconey
is always on a Sunday Hello mate, Hello.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
Piney, I'm caught in a bit of boat show traffic
in Auckland. So I'm on the road to the breakdown
on sky tonight. So much talk about in the rugby world.
There's a lot going on, piny.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
A lot going on. What about it? Tilly beating England?
How good was that?

Speaker 5 (01:12:15):
Magnificent? It was unbelievable the scenes and just the way
it played out. Yes, there was a dodgy French ref.
Yes there were two yellow cards to England. But hey,
you cannot take it away from Italy. They've been doing
such good things under their Argentinian coach Felipe Continpomi side note,
very good Mateive Razors and he's been just kicking goals

(01:12:37):
and scoring tries since he's been in charge of the Italians.
And they've actually unearthed a superstar in Tomaso Minicello. I
don't know if he's related to Anthony, but he definitely
looks like him. He looks like the count from Sesame Street.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
See, I'll have to check him out. Did you see
the score between Scotland and France. It was fifty forty.

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
Yeah, and Idris Gostmate said that's their best performance in
a long long time. Even though they conceded forty points,
they were pumped. So that's what I happen after we've
had a few whiskeys after the game, because he sent
me the at probably midnight local time and the game
finished at five thirty. So look, I think Scotland are

(01:13:18):
a real threat in the World Cup. I think as
long as they got Finn Russell and they're operating on
all sort of twelve cylinders of fifteen cylinders, if you're
like I think they can upset anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:13:32):
Now Super Rugby, which I know you'll feature on the
breakdown tonight as well. I saw Damien McKenzie come back
into the Chief side like he'd never been away, and
then last night I saw Bowden Barrett come back into
the Blue side like he'd never been away. Is this
what happens to high quality first five? So it doesn't
actually matter how much time you have off, you just
come back like you've never been away.

Speaker 5 (01:13:51):
Exactly, bring back Grant Fox right. The thing is I
reckon that it's that class's permanent argument. Right, they can
just slot in anywhere. And even good to see Dmac
running around like a blueast fly if you can say that,
and just setting something up. And now we felt like

(01:14:14):
old d Mac, you know, old Damien McKenzie. But we've
got this embarrassment of riches. But it's all coming to
a head because Richie mu Wong is coming back soon
and that's a big decision to make. But I like
the fact that there's been so much class shown the
Hurricanes over in Sydney. Hatrick's galore really properly, Roy Carda,
Caleb Clark. I mean this is really good to see

(01:14:37):
because I think, you know, the class of those players
should shine through. They are our best of the best.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
I think Caleb Tunguetow is going to be in All
Black this year. I know it's not a particularly bold claim,
but do you agree.

Speaker 5 (01:14:50):
One hundred percent?

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Agree?

Speaker 5 (01:14:52):
I think like it's almost like who else comes in?
But we're really you know, SEMy Reese has gone, Mark
Talia left last year. They haven't really filled that void.
I think it is it is a spot for Tongueytowl.
I just under whether will Dave Anny want to play
someone like McKenzie at fullback and move Will Jordan to

(01:15:13):
the wing. I mean, why didn't Will Jordan play last night?
I don't understand it. Come on, it's a derby game.
You've got to have the best players playing and that,
so it would have been lovely to see because he's
so influential to that Crusader's team. But yes, to Caleb Tongueytowl,
he's on a fast track to the abs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Yeah, that was weird last night, wasn't it. No Will Jordan,
I'd never really I didn't hear an actual explanation. I
don't think he's injured. They were just saying I think
Rob Penny just they kind of almost sort of danced
around it. Do you know why he didn't play?

Speaker 5 (01:15:46):
I know they kind of said that he'd been a
bit banged up for maybe, but he's not on an
injury report, so I figure, like you know, a lot
of old rugby players will be out there going well,
I got banged up all the time, played any minutes
every week, so we live in a different times, piny,
But what a shame that they couldn't put out someone

(01:16:08):
who is a genuine global superstar on that stage last night.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
I've just actually had a text from a media colleague
of ours. I'm not going to name him, but you
know who it is, who tells me that Will Jordan
had his brother's wedding this weekend, So maybe that was
the red and I think you have to choose your
brother's wedding over a round robin game of Super Rugby.

Speaker 15 (01:16:29):
Do do?

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
It is catastrophic scheduling by Will Jordan's brother, But I
get that, I get it.

Speaker 5 (01:16:36):
Oh, it's totally fine. You've got to go to your
brother's wedding. I'd say Will Jordan can come to my
wedding if it ever happens, pony and he can be
MC I'm happy, or even best man. But the thing
is that's totally fine. Family first, that that's the era
we live, and I'm glad that we do. I mean,
I think we had Matt Henry fly home mid World Cup.

(01:16:56):
Fair play one hundred percent should.

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
Happen, absolutely right. Family first, Well, if you could shared
your wedding for the day the Crusaders play the Hurricanes,
that'd be good. If Will Jordan wasn't going to be there,
that would be very helpful. Now, before Dave Reny decides
on positions in the All Blacks, he has to come
up with his assistant coaching team. What are you hearing here?

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
Well, I'm hearing probably what you were hearing, and the
names Neil Barnes Andrew Strawbridge, tana Umanga have come up.
Mike Blair, the ex Scottish halfback who worked with him
at Glasgow's currently working with him at Kobe. Tom Commentary's
another name. I don't think it's going to be too
far outside those trusted advisors and assistant coaches. The one

(01:17:38):
interesting point I guess about Andrew Strawbridge is he really
is a bit like a Tony Brown in the sense
that he's an innovator. He went to England and pretty
much made them great again. He got them winning and
look he left late last year and now look at them.
So that's what you put on your CV. Look how
they're doing without me. It's like an M and M song.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Exactly right. Hey, I've set my alarm tomorrow morning for
two twenty two. The game, the T twenty World Cup Final,
starts at two thirty two twenty two. Nathan Astall's famous score,
of course, will you join me in getting up at
two twenty two?

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:18:20):
Two for twenty two with your Veno time, I'll be there, Pony.

Speaker 7 (01:18:25):
What a match?

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
I actually think it's it should be compulsory. At some
point of the game, you should be watching it. I
don't blame you. If you only get up for the
last fifteen overs, that's fine, but it must be watched live.
I'm going to be up watching it on Sky. I'm
going to be hoping that we're bowling first, because if
there's any juice in that pitch, we need to use it.
And I think it all comes down to it. I

(01:18:47):
hate to say it, but fin Allen's work it. If
they get it cheaply, we're in trouble. For Goes Berserk,
gome On.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
It's that inning's the other day. I'm still trying to process.
And he went from fifty eight to one hundred and
eleven balls. He got forty two runs an eleven balls.
Stood there and he got cramp. He was cramping up
in the middle of all of that.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
You know that's a good lesson there, poney, because he
got a few singles at the start. And you know,
when you're playing T T twenty cricket and you makes
you yelling out hurry up, they get on with it.
You can say, hey, even if Allen got a few
singles in a bloody lead by here and there, like
just chill out until the wait till I get the
fifty eight and you'll see some fireworks. Mate.

Speaker 2 (01:19:34):
He kind of missed around for too long because he
got there was fifty of nineteen, didn't he, But you're right,
he kind of scratched around. There was another game I
can't remember. It was again Swen the first over and
here's Alan and ciphered out there. The first over was
a maiden, a maiden and T twenty cricket. It's so rare,
but it didn't matter. They went on and bought on
a few and I think we might have won that game.

Speaker 5 (01:19:52):
Yeah, if your coach tells you to swing from ball one,
tell him to go jump in the lake because you're
going to get your eye in first and then you're
going to blaze away and go nuts. So just tell on.
It's not quite mainland. These good things take time. But
just give me a couple of sights and then I'll
do that. I'll go to the game plan of swinging wildly.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
Do you think the black Caps do what social cricketers
do and if somebody's somebody is messing about and scratching
about and not getting any runs, they give them the
slow handclap. Do you think the black Caps do that.

Speaker 5 (01:20:24):
They've got their own version of it. I'm sure it'll be.
He's solely leading it, and he feels like he's the
guy that would do that kind of thing. But no,
I think it's it's awesome that they're there. I just
like the balance of our team. I think we've got
enough heading to scare teams and to trouble people. Boommeras
Yorkers are a big concern for me. But hey, you

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can only bolt fall over for others. So let's see
how he goes.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
I'll message you at two twenty three to make sure
you're up.

Speaker 5 (01:20:53):
Thanks, Pine. I look forward to it, mate, FaceTime there
if you like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
I don't think i'll do that. You don't want to
see me at two twenty three, I can assure you
of that, James, but I will be in touch. Thanks mate,
Always good to chat, James mccony. Big part of our
eight away from two News Talks NB.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Analyzing the plays and getting the inside Weekend Sport with
Jason Vie News Talks MB.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
Five to two from Peter on text Hi Jason. Massa
University did the numbers on how much energy a sharer
puts out. They found that once they were doing more
than two hundred in a day, it was equivalent to
running two marathons in a day. The big thing is
that they do that on Monday, then again on Tuesday,
then Wednesday, five days a week and when there's been

(01:21:37):
a wet spell, sometimes seven days a week for a
month to catch up. It makes getting up at two
twenty two in the morning a bit of a breeze. Thanks, Peter,
you're dead right. I feel a bit inadequate after hearing
those numbers. Incredible stuff after two o'clock a bumper edition
of In Case You Missed It. There's been so much

(01:21:58):
sport on and we don't have any possible way of
covering it all for you in depth on weekend sport
where we do our best though, So when Case You
missed It our two to catch you up on a
bunch of stuff that's happened in the last twenty four
hours or so. And then we're off to Melbourne where
the Australian Formula One Grand Prix is around three hours away.
Liam Lawson will start from eighth on the grid after

(01:22:20):
qualifying last night. The big story of course, Max for
Stapping crashing early in qualifying, so he'll start from right
at the back of the grid. The Mercedes won two
at the front, so what are prospects like for the race.
Australian Formula One Grand Prix broadcaster James Baldwin is going
to join us. We're into the Auckland FC camp. They

(01:22:41):
take on Perth Glory this afternoon. That game at three o'clock.
Go Media Logan Rogerson is in for a chat and
we're off to India. Mike Lane from the Alternative Commentary Collective.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
The only place for the big names, the big issues,
the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on
Weekend Sport with Jason Vine on your home of Sport
News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
MB coming up to seven. Welcome back, Welcome in, whatever
the case may be. This is Weekend Sport on News Talk.
Said b I'm Jason Pine with Mark Kelly running the
Cutter today. Richard says Piney regarding sharers, I think you're
getting a bit carried away with your two marathon a
day claim. I don't think anyone would be able to
run two marathons a day every day. Do you seriously?

(01:23:28):
Come on, Piney? I think you may have been getting
a bit excited, Richard. I'm only going off the research
that Peter sent through and I can only look. I
don't want to cast dispersions on Pete's research. It sounded
pretty authentic. You're right, I think it was the equivalent,
wasn't it of running the two marathons a day. I
think you're right. I can't I can't imagine that a

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human being could run physically run two marathons a day
for seven days. That would be asking a lot. But
in terms of the equivalent energy produced, I think that
was what the comparison was. So look, I I look,
I'm going to believe it until I hear, until I

(01:24:10):
hear evidence to the contrary. Appreciate your text, though, Richard.
I appreciate all your correspondence. Oh eight hundred and eighty
ten eighties our phone number nine two nine to two
for your text messages. Now, Brett Randall's not going to
be able to get all ten wickets unfortunately, because his
teammate Ray Tall has picked up the eighth Northern District's wicket.

(01:24:31):
They are seventy two for eight that after Brett Randall
had picked up the first seven. So it's not going
to be a ten for for Brett Randall unfortunately, merely
Kerr having taken seven wickets for the White Ferns. Again,
Zimbabwe has opened the batting and alongside is He Gaze,
they have negotiated their way through to thirty two without loss.
On the sixth over chasing one hundred and three to one,

(01:24:51):
the second of three ODI's down in Dunedin. We're off
to Melbourne very shortly. We're only three hours or so
away from the Formula one Grand Prix season opener at
Melbourne's Albert Park Circuit. Going to get a a low
down on qualifying yesterday in prospects for the race today
with the voice of Formula One in Australia, James Baldwin.

(01:25:13):
We're also going to get inside the Auckland FC camp
Logan Rogerson on the show ahead of their game against
Perth Glory this afternoon. And we'll get to India again
as well, where Mike Lane, the head of the Alternative
Commentary Collective, has made a mad dash to get there
in time for the T twenty Cricket World Cup Final.
I understand he only arrived in about last hour or so.
Goodness only knows what state he's in as far as

(01:25:35):
jet lag and those sorts of things are concerned. But
we'll get them on the air before three o'clock to
get a bit of a gauge on how things are
over in a metabat ahead of this T twenty Cricket
World Cup Final which starts in just over twelve hours
from now. But before we do any of those things,
as we always do at around about this time on

(01:25:55):
weekend sport, it's time to catch you up on some
of the things you might have missed. And it has
been as big as sporting weekend as I can remember
in recent times. So much to catch you up on,
so let's get into it. We start in the Six Nations,
where Italy have created rugby history beating England for the
first time ever.

Speaker 20 (01:26:15):
Thimes of Italia have slim flights.

Speaker 17 (01:26:19):
Fail at last, sad in suplets.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
I've cussed the rugby universe incredible, the Italians winning twenty
three eighteen in Rome. Meantime, French hopes of the Six
Nations Grand slammer gone and Scotland at the sets on France.

Speaker 14 (01:26:37):
It has been a Six Nations in concert for the
ages in Scotland have been France by fifty points to forty.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
So what that means is Scotland, France and Ireland all
have the chance to win the six Nations in the
final round next weekend. Close to to home Round four
of Super Rugby Pacificas in the books, the Highlanders running
out thirty nine thirty one winners over the Western Force
in Dunedin. Gonna our little cap away this time done
to Reggie flaring across. There's tag out down, It's.

Speaker 3 (01:27:09):
Hanging down to try.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
Take a town.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Gets an in the Chris Coloring Machine. The Blues shaking
off a run of nine home losses from ten attempts
against the Crusaders with a twenty nine to thirteen victory
at Eden Park. I'm Barrett for vi left wing corner.

Speaker 17 (01:27:26):
It's three three for the Caleb Clark hat trick against
the Crusaders.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
And the amazing game played out at Canberra, the Reds
coming back from thirty one twenty down with a minute
to go to beat the Brumbies. Fighting for the Reds
the Gordon Good.

Speaker 15 (01:27:47):
Corner scores the Reds win from Stealer.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
It's a Samess.

Speaker 21 (01:27:53):
Saess win for less Kisses men.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
In camera staying in Australia. In the NRL, the Raiders
and Manly went to Golden Point and a Lego left foot.

Speaker 21 (01:28:05):
Shot his day kid, then he's first has Cambry first
choice broken the handle.

Speaker 2 (01:28:20):
Twenty nine twenty eight the final score. Meantime, the Sharks
put fifty on the Titans.

Speaker 20 (01:28:24):
Wines dummy spins Nicico Heinz goes over.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
The points are flowing for Nico fifty points to ten
at Shark Park. Back home and top seed Paul Cole
through to this afternoon's final at the New Zealand Squash
Open in christ Church.

Speaker 13 (01:28:40):
So there it goes seven to one. Incredibly short induration.

Speaker 15 (01:28:44):
All credit to Padders.

Speaker 22 (01:28:45):
Didn't quite have anything left in the tangry eleventh first tonight, but.

Speaker 15 (01:28:49):
It's been a brilliant event for him.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
Paul Cole though, just making sure that his home crow
to Here, can get off to bed early and recover
for tomorrow. Paul Cole will face two time Junior World
champion Egyptian Mohammad Zakaria in the final later on today
to Football Premier League leaders Arsenal through to the if
A Cup quarter finals only just though a two to
one win over third tier Mansfield Town. It's another sculpture

(01:29:17):
fasten than front again after another minutes of magic. They
have needed a couple of absolute crackers to get them
in front. Here this afternoon the bear has as laffult
this one in in the A League. The Newcastle Jet's
still flying high at the top of the A League
ladder after a two to one win over the Western

(01:29:39):
Sydney Wanderers Fenced toasts.

Speaker 20 (01:29:44):
It's much Nata who takes new cars on in front
the center back against his old sign excorsis first to
this season and there could be no more.

Speaker 2 (01:29:58):
Vital time than this. Bortland FC can reduce that gap
back to two points if they beat Perth Glory this afternoon. Meantime,
Sydney EFC are a further two points back, coming back
from two nil down to draw two to two with
Melbourne victories.

Speaker 15 (01:30:12):
Time's got the visica.

Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
But that's two.

Speaker 15 (01:30:19):
Two goals in two minutes and sit down. See your
bucket it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
Middle distance running sensation Sam Ruth has won the New
Zealand fifteen hundred meters National Championship, cruising home in three
minutes forty one point four to three seconds last night.
He sees them up, tell the home straight. He doesn't care.

Speaker 22 (01:30:38):
He knows he's the best, he knows how good he is,
and he's shown it.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
Again in White Tucker eats a night's Sam Ruth National
Champion and speaking of unbackable favorites and the NZB key,
we had Alice Lee pre race favorite, well written, pushed
all the way to the line. It's well written and froed.
Belchavel's going to get very close. Well written.

Speaker 22 (01:31:01):
He's to post Belchavew's run.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Jane payheaded.

Speaker 20 (01:31:06):
That's very clo spelt of ours head and almighty learns
right on the line with well written.

Speaker 7 (01:31:12):
Let's have a look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:14):
It is very close. She's done it. She has held
on well written by nostrils.

Speaker 1 (01:31:27):
The biggest names in sport are here. Weekend Sport with
Jason Vine, News talks NB well.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
As I say, I can't remember our busiest sporting weekend.
I hope we caught up, caught you up with most
of it. I know this stuff we've missed already starting
to get the texts and about the stuff we missed.
But hopefully we gave you a bit of a flavor
of the last little while. Let us two fifteen, the
Australian Formula one Grand Prix, has delivered plenty of drama
in qualifying at the albert Park circuit in Melbourne as

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the Formula One season roars into life.

Speaker 22 (01:31:59):
George Russeller's looks an absolute certainty for pol so far
this Saturday here in albert Mister Saturday comes good and
takes professional poll. It's a Mercedes want to with Kenny
out Tonelli out the front row?

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Is Isaac Catcher still out there?

Speaker 22 (01:32:17):
This first race for Red Bull Where does he starts?
Starts in Dirk place, ahead of the Ferrari, ahead of
the McLaren.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
The surprises up and down the grid, Lots of storylines
heading into today's race. Plenty of interest of course in
New Zealand about how Liam Lawson is going to go
for the season ahead. He will start eighth on the grid.
George Russell and Kimmy Antonelli, the two Mercedes drivers at
one and two, Isaac Hadger charl Leclair in the Ferrari,
then Oscar Piastre and Lando Norris five and six, the

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two McLaren's, Lewis Hamilton and the Ferrari seventh on the grid,
Liam Lawson eighth and his teammate Arvid Lindblad, the other
Racing Bulls driver ninth on the grid. To break down
qualifying and look ahead to the race itself. We're joined
by Australian Formula one broadcaster, the voice of f one
in Australia, James Baldwin. James, thanks for joining us. Let's

(01:33:08):
start at the front. George Russell is on pole for
Mercedes teammate Kimmi Antonelli alongside. Is that a sign that
Mercedes just going to be the team to beat this
year under the new regulations?

Speaker 7 (01:33:20):
Thanks Jason.

Speaker 13 (01:33:21):
Yeah, great to be with you and what a great
time finally as a Formula One fans around the world
can finally see the true pace of these twenty twenty
six cars and the teams that may have been sandbagging
a little bit in testing and free practice sessions ahead
of qualifying yesterday. And I tell you what, Mercedes are

(01:33:43):
looking exceptionally good. Oh he's totally surprised by that. Probably
not really. I think the way that the team has
been sort of aiming towards this new rule set change
has been that they were trying to be as dominant
as possible, as quickly as possible. The surprise, I think
to many people is just that Ferrari haven't quite got

(01:34:05):
enough pace at least yet in qualifying to get into
that top podium position just yet.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
One of the book shocks Max for Stappen crashing out
early and qualifying what happened and how much does that
shake up the complexion of today's race.

Speaker 13 (01:34:19):
Yeah, that's a good question. And going down the main
straight into turn one, he applied the brakes basically and
then the rear axle locked up and you can see
on the replay. If you haven't yet watched it, I
encourage you to do so. He just lost control of
the rear of the car as he prepped going to
turn right into that first turn, and the car spun

(01:34:41):
around on him entering the barriers. It looked like after
the incident that may have hurt his hands or his wrists.
The front axle collected the barriers there, but in true
maxis Staffin's style, he sort of just brushed it off immediately.
And I think for Red Bull, of course sad that
they aren't towards the front for them, But if Max

(01:35:02):
of Staffan drives anything like he has done for his
Formula One career, he will not be remaining at the
back of the pack for very long.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
All right, Well, Isaac hadgaw Is up and third on
the grid, doesn't he. So it's not a I mean,
obviously you don't want to lose your top driver or
have them start at the back of the field, but
not an absolutely catastrophic day for red Bull.

Speaker 13 (01:35:23):
No, that's certainly true, and I think if anything to
take away from qualifying, specifically for Isaac Hadja, red Bull
may have finally broken this curse so to speak, of
trying to find a driver that can be comparable to
maxis Staffin. Because up until the point of where Max
had his issue in qualifying, all the way through the

(01:35:44):
free practice sessions, Isaac Hajar was there or thereabouts or
even ahead of Maxistaffen in timings, and certainly with the
race simulations and the qualifying simulations that the team would
have been running in those times, I think everyone would
be quietly happy with his performance, especially compared to this
time last year where he didn't even start the race.

(01:36:06):
For him, he'll be wanting to sort of remedy that,
I suppose and be looking to finish on the podium
in his first race for Red Bull.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
The Australian crowd, of course, will be watching Oscar Piastri closely,
starting fifth on the grid. What are his chances of
fighting for a podium finish.

Speaker 13 (01:36:23):
I spoke with Oscar a couple of days ago and
he is quietly confident.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
I think.

Speaker 13 (01:36:28):
I mean this is we haven't had an Australian driver
successfully stand on the podium. We had Daniel Ricardo in
twenty fourteen, but then he was disqualified through a fuel
flow issue. So for us as Australians in that home
crowd sense we're all behind Oscar. He's quietly confident. It
looks like he's got a better understanding of this car

(01:36:48):
than his teammate Lando Norris, who just wasn't able to
get to grips with the way it was performing, certainly
through the first sector of this track, whereas Oscar was
getting faster and faster. So we're quietly confident. We don't
want to put the mockers on him, of course, but
he is probably hoping to try and remedy last year
where the last couple of lapses the rain fell on

(01:37:11):
turn thirteen, he's spun off onto the grass and so
he'll be wanting to get one up on his teammate
come race one today.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
All right, let's talk about our man Liam Lawson. Eighth
on the grid. How did you evaluate his qualifying performance.

Speaker 13 (01:37:24):
Liam is in a position that is sadly for him,
probably well under the microscope, and it's not necessarily his
driving that is doing that. It's the young rookie from
Great Britain, Avid Lynnblad, who is the only rookie this
season in twenty twenty six, but is also his teammate.
And Arvid all the way through the weekend was exceptionally

(01:37:45):
impressive and in the qualifying in Q one rather he
outqualified Liam. But for Liam to then outqualify Arvid, that's
exceptionally important for his mental state and also for the
team to realize who you know, the more senior driver
is I suppose for this weekend. We all love Liam.
He is an exceptional talent and although the quick trip

(01:38:10):
to Red Bull Racing last year yielded him going back
to racing Bulls, it may have well and truly saved
his racing career because he does find himself in this
race seat again this year. Whether or not Red Bull
will take him back in the future is yet to
be seen, but he's still a Formula one driver, He's
still got exceptional pace and the way that the regulations

(01:38:31):
are working this year Jason, there's more tactical and strategic
things that drivers can do from the cockpit of their
own car, including using straight line mode, which is changing
the way that the wings both front and rear operate,
and also an electrical boost mode too, and Liam's got
a wise head on those shoulders, so it'll be interesting
to see how he deploys those this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:38:52):
If we just so mat a little bit James. In
terms of the overall season, what does Liam Lawson need
to show this year or do this year to really
establish himself as a long term Formula One driver.

Speaker 13 (01:39:06):
The short answer is he needs to outperform Avid in
almost every race, as Avid's a rookie for this season,
but also because these cars are brand new, that might
be more difficult than we think, certainly because Arvid doesn't
have a reference point of last year's cars to get
to groups with like the rest of the drivers do,

(01:39:28):
including Liam. But if he is to remain in at
least in Racing Bulls, he would need to outperform. But
I would say if there's any opportunity for him to
grab some top five finishes this year, and I would
say probably Racing Bulls is probably the fifth fastest team
that looks like at the moment after a Ferrari Red

(01:39:49):
Bull McLaren Mercedes. So he'll be fighting sort of around
that sixth seventh place. But if he can get fifth,
and if you can send some overtakes, especially on some
of those other top teams, then I think if he's
starting to establish himself. But I think the confidence he
has or ready, the fact that he's still in the
sport is a big thing. It's a brand new year

(01:40:10):
for him. We don't have to think about him being
promoted and then demoted back to RB. He can just
be a racing driver in this team and with any luck,
maybe he gets a promotion at some point back to
the team or he finds a home somewhere else in
the next couple of years.

Speaker 2 (01:40:28):
All right, let's circle back to the race today. To
financi Albert Park can be very tricky for overtaking. How
much of this race is going to be dictated by
grit position and by the start.

Speaker 13 (01:40:38):
It's a great question, to be honest, Jason and I
just don't know, because these cars are brand new and
we've never seen them in a racing format. Track position
is always incredibly important, so those sort of towards the
top ten will be having a much better time. Of course,
Cadillac is brand new this year, so we've got an
eleventh team and two extra cars, so twenty two cars

(01:40:59):
now will be circulating the Albert Park circuit. What will
be interesting in my mind is whether or not we
see one or a two stop strategy for tires come
the race this afternoon, and from my mind, I think
we're probably going to be looking at an interesting way
of this battery usage and how we regenerate the battery

(01:41:21):
for the drivers to use this boost mode. So from
my mind, who knows which is exciting in its own way?
You can be honest, because Formula one has been you know,
a little bit samey for the last sort of six
years especially, but to go racing with these brand new
set of regulations with one new driver on the grid,
but the return of two other drivers and a whole

(01:41:43):
team is simply just exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
Yeah, I can't wait to see how it plays out.
Great to get your analysis and your expertise. James, thanks
so much for joining us. Good on you mate, Thank you, No,
thank you, James, James Baldwin. They're the voice of F
one in Australia. So the year begins with the Australian
Formula One Grand Prix five o'clock this afternoon around the
Old Park circuit and Melbourne. Getting a lot of photos
sent from three means who have made the trip over there.

(01:42:08):
It looks like a terrific atmosphere as per usual. George
Russell and Kimmy Antonelli on the front road of the
front row of the grid, the Mercedes drivers both of them.
Then Isaac hadjar in the red ball Max for stapp
and will start from the back of the field after
crashing and qualifying. Charlie Clair Is at fourth on the grid.
Then Oscar Piastri and Lando Norris, the reigning world champion

(01:42:30):
of course, the two McClaren's at five and sex Lewis
Hamilton and the second Ferrari seventh on the grid alongside
Liam Lawson Racing Bulls and Arvid line Blood ninth on
the grid. The other Racing Bulls driver. Just can't wait
to see what plays out around the Albert Park circuit.
A bit later on this afternoon, just updating you on

(01:42:50):
some live sport from Dunedin where the White Fans have
lost their first wicket Izzie Gaze has been dismissed for twenty.
The White Fan's only chasing one hundred and three to
beat some Babwe there forty nine for one. Mellikur is
unbeaten on twenty. She's been joined by Maddi Great and
who's got a couple of runs in New Zealand forty
nine for one in the tenth over as they look

(01:43:11):
to chase downs and Babwe's very modest one hundred and
two all outs and in the Planket Shield. We were
keeping eyes on this because Brett Randall had taken the
first seven Northern Districts wickets and if you are just
joining us this afternoon, he's become the first player in
the history of first class cricket anywhere in the world

(01:43:31):
to take five wickets and five balls. He did that
and had the first seven wickets for his site Central
against Northern. Northern have been bowled out for eighty two
and Brett Randal hasn't got any more wickets. Ray Toll's
got a wicket, Toby Findley's got a wicket and Jayden
Lennox has one as well. Northern all out for eighty two.
They trail by two hundred and ninety one runs. We

(01:43:54):
wait to see whether the follow one is enforced. You'd
have to think that it will be by by Central Districts.
Who's their captain? Jayden Lennox to see the captain of
Central Districts, I think he is. I can't imagine no,
Tom Bruce. Of course, I can't imagine that it would
be too much of a decision to chuck them back
in there. Wouldn't you try and bowl them out again? Anyway,
We'll keep we'll keep eyes on that for you as well.

(01:44:17):
Take a break, come back, head off to Auckland FC
where they take on Perth Glory this afternoon, Go Media Stadium.
They need to win to get the heat on Newcastle
at the top. Logan Rogerson going to join us after this,
call us how you see it on.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Weekend Sport with Jason Paine and GJ. Gardner Holmes, New
Zealand's most trusted home builder News talks that'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:44:39):
Coming up twenty nine away from three. On Texta's twice
you've listed the top nine starting position, not mentioning at
Audi at ten and eleven on the grid. I can
imagine you're listing the top ten and missing eleven but
come on, make out e tenth and eleventh. Yes, you're right.
I should have mentioned that I only went down to
nine because we've got to Liam at eight and then
his teammatee arvid Lundband at nine. But you're right. Tenth
on the grid in the Audi Gabrielle bortdaletto and Nico

(01:45:03):
Holkenberg eleventh on the grid as well. Thank thank you
very much indeed for pointing that out. Have also had
emailed to me some information about the comparison with sharing
and marathon running. Thank you Dom for sending that through.
Haven't had the chance to click on the link you
sent yet, but I know that when I do, it
will give me a lot of information which I look

(01:45:25):
forward to reading. Thanks indeed, the comparison made earlier, that's
sharing two hundred odd cheaper days like running two marathons
in a day and then doing it back to back
to back to back. So sharers obviously amazing physical specimens
and incredible athletes comparable to marathon runners. Auckland FC are
back in a league action this afternoon. They take on

(01:45:47):
Perth glory Go Media Stadium three o'clock this afternoon. They
come in off the back of a three nil win
against Melbourne City last time out and among the goalscorers
Logan Rogerson my with a chance to cross Ken who

(01:46:07):
has claimed their goal.

Speaker 17 (01:46:08):
Of season seventeen games without one.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
Fuddy hits over the open their hair and Tetrick features
finally Fiature also the DC finally hit just before the
Logan Rogerson joins us on Weekend Sport. Thanks for taking
the time, Logan. February was really really good for Auckland FC.
Three wins in a draw in the calendar month after
a difficult January? Were you won just one of your

(01:46:32):
six matches in January? So did anything change markedly in February?

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
Yeah, I guess, you know, I think we specially for
we changed the formation a little bit, the GASA made
a few changes. Obviously we had Cozy suspended, so we
had to change things a little bit for the derby.
But I think it worked out quite well actually for us.
And you know we kid the same team again City

(01:47:02):
and yeah, I think, yeah, I thinks, yeah, we're working
on these last two years quite nicely.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Absolutely they did. Was there always the thought that that
would happen, even though as I say, January there was
just a one win during that calendar month and a
couple of results that didn't go your way. Was there
always the faith and the belief in the squad that
it was just a blip and things would come right.

Speaker 12 (01:47:23):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:47:23):
Like in my opinion, I think we've got the best
depths or the best squad or one of the best
squads in the league anyway, So yeah, and all the
boys felt that that we just needed, you know, to
get get a good result and you know things will
start moving along.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
Lastly, again fantastic. Well I've certainly done that. So seven
games to go in the regular season, you're well and
truly in and around the top of the table. How
well placed do you feel for a run at the
Premier's plate again over the next couple of months.

Speaker 4 (01:47:54):
Yeah, I think so. I think we're in a good position.
You know, obviously only two points of Newcastle, so we're
hunting them down and you know, I think for us,
we obviously just did a focus on our game in
the game that we have to play. But you know,
I think at the moment we're putting a lot of
a lot of pressure on Newcastle. Were playing everal well at.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
The moment you scored your first goal of the season
against Melbourne City last weekend. How good did it feel
when that ht the back of the net.

Speaker 4 (01:48:21):
Honestly, it was a good feeling. I waited quite a
long time, longer then and then I wanted to wait
to score my first goal. But you know, like you said,
a massive weight just come off my shoulders. And yeah,
you know, it's one of those things where I was
getting chance in the game. But you know, because I
hadn't scored, maybe I'm feeling I don't know, a little

(01:48:42):
bit more tense in some of these moments, so that
you know, I was unable to execute, you know, some
of the chances how I would have liked to. So,
you know, now getting the first one out of the way, hopefully,
you know, in those goal scoring opportunities, I'm a little
bit more freer in the mind.

Speaker 2 (01:48:57):
I guess we'll often say, I don't know, I've heard
strikers say a lot. You know that once one goal comes,
others will follow. This is probably a silly question, but
do you feel that might be the case with you?

Speaker 4 (01:49:09):
Well, I hope, so, I hope that's the case. You know,
I think last season I was quite lucky, you know,
I scored in the opening game of the season, which
you know made a lot easier for me. But yeah,
I've scored. I've scored now last weekend, so hopefully I
can get a few more and help the team pushing
on to win the league and then pushing on to

(01:49:30):
the finals as well.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
Was it starting to play on your mind more than,
you know, more than than was ideal? Will you start
to think about it a bit much during the week
for example.

Speaker 4 (01:49:41):
Yeah, it does play on your mind a lot, you know,
not scoring, especially after last season I contributed quite a bit.
But yeah, it does eat away at you as a
striker because you know, people always look at you know,
goals and assists and that that's how you get judged
as an attacking player. And you know, people kind of

(01:50:03):
you know, forget, you can play a good game but
don't score and you know, or you could play an
average game of score and people think you've had an
amazing game. That's just a nature of being being an attacker.
So yeah, it did play my mind quite a bit,
to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
But what about your teammates and the coaching staff, what
what sort of things were they were they reinforcing to you?
To you know, to keep your confidence high during during
that time.

Speaker 4 (01:50:29):
Yeah, to be honest, Steve would always remind me before
before every game, He's like, I think it's about that
if you score so yeah, and I would get a
bit of stick from the boys, you know, a bit
of friendly banter. But yeah, obviously you know it's guildy.
We spent a lot of time with Guilty and the

(01:50:49):
strikers working on finishing and you know, he just said,
you know, you're just trying and stay calm in these situations.
And Lake said, well, once you score one, then you
know more will come.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Yeah, Well, I'm I'm certain that's the case. And you're
so right, you know, like you can have an absolute
blind that can't you And there's nothing to show for
it at the end of it in terms of a
in terms of a stat a goal or an assistant
as you thought you might get one and off your
knee from a yard and all of a sudden he's
a goal scorer. Must have had a terrific game. It's
a funny old game football. You've alternated between starting and
an impact role this season. Last year you were mainly

(01:51:23):
used from the start. How big an adjustment has that
been for you.

Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
Yeah, it's you know, it's a big change. It's it's
you know, it's quite difficult. I don't think a lot
of people understand coming into the game when you know,
the intensity is you know, quite high as well, you
don't really have time to adjust to the speed. And
you know, especially these last you know, last thirty thirty

(01:51:49):
minutes of a game, either you're trying to protect the
lead or you're trying to go out there and win games. Yeah,
it's not easy, but you know, it's what I've had
to do this season. You know, it's it's the job
that Steve you know, has given me. And yeah, I'm
happy to be you know, back in the starting or edit.
But yeah, there is a big difference, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
So yeah, I think that's it, doesn't it. People expect
you to come on with fresh legs and immediately just
change the game. But does it actually take a bit
of time to get into the speed of the game
once you arrive off the bench.

Speaker 4 (01:52:26):
Yeah, no, correct, Like you know, sometimes you come into
games and you'll make one of the foot sprints and
you know you're absolutely shattered, you know, because like you say,
the games it's such as it's almost like a different
type of fitness almost like well like you're using like
anaerobic systems rather than your aerobic it's just go, go go.
So yeah, it's, like I say, it is tough.

Speaker 2 (01:52:49):
Good explanation. So, Perth, you've already played them Monster season
over there where they came from behind to beat you
two to one. Do you talk about revenge? Is that
part of the motivation at all? Or is it really okay?
It doesn't matter who we're playing, We're just we just
want to win each week.

Speaker 4 (01:53:06):
No, I think, you know, the gaff it does remind
us we had a similar a similar kind of situation
last year where we lost the way and then you know,
we had to play them at home, So the gaff
it does remind us that, you know, last time, you know,
they stole points of us, so you know, we need
to make sure, especially at home, that you know, we

(01:53:28):
take the three points. So it's like any team that
beats us. Really, the gaffer kind of reminds us, you know,
before the game, you know that last time we played
them this happened, so we need to make sure it
doesn't happen again, you know, Steve, it's almost like a
prize thing for Steve. He doesn't like to be beaaten,
which no coach wants to be, but you know he does.

(01:53:49):
He does remind us well quite often.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
And we learned this week that your captain Hiroki Saki
a seat for another stunt on the sidelines with a
bit of a niggling hamstring that he count seem to shake.
How big a blow was it for you not to
have him out there?

Speaker 8 (01:54:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:54:04):
I think it's a massive loss for the team obviously.
You know, Hierochi brings so much experience and you know,
it's crazy it is his age. You know how well
he performs and how explosive he still is on the field.
So yeah, it's going to be a big loss. But
you know, to be honest that every time that Hiroki's

(01:54:26):
had a little bit of a nkel talent's come in
and done an excellent job. You know, Kellen's played a
lot of a lot of Bailey games, he's played the
national team and you know, in my opinion, I think
how it's done, you know, an exceptional job when he
when he's had to come in and sell it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:41):
Yeah, I think that's that's true across the field as well.
Isn't it, Because as you say, I mean Sam Cosgrove
was suspended. You know, you just you just may do.
Luivistrada's missed the last couple of games and you know
Cam Howison stepped in there, Guy gos is playing well.
It must feel like quite a cool squad, even though
there's a lot of competition for places. But to know
when you do lose important players that there is the
depth to cover with, you know, the other guys who

(01:55:03):
just you know, take the next step up.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
Yeah, no, exactly. It's funny. You know, times when I've
sat on the bench and you know, I look at
the five guys that are sitting next to me, you
know either play for the national team or you know,
could easy be playing in any other a league team.
So you know it's you know, when you do the
speech and their injuries, you know, the boys, you know

(01:55:27):
that no one's ever worried because you know that the
guy that's coming in is you know, going to be
a very good player or yeah, as the top player.
So yeah, you know, it's good. It's good. It's nice
to be fair. Maybe some other teams, you know, don't
have this luxury of having you know, two or three
guys for every position they could come in and do
an excellent job.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Well, it's an exciting two months ahead. You put yourself
in a great position to make another run at the
Premier's Play. Congrats on the first goal last weekend, Logan.
I'm positive it's going to lead to a flood of
them from now for you. Thanks for chatting to us today.

Speaker 4 (01:55:59):
Man's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:56:01):
Thank you, No, thank you, Logan, Logan Rogerson out of
Auckland f C. They take on Perth Glory this afternoon
at Going Media Stadium eighteen to three. When we come
back off to India, Mike Lane out of the Alternative
Commentary Collective on the ground over there.

Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
What's it like?

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
We'll find out when we come back.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Kevin matters in Sport. It matters here Weekend Sport with
Jason Paine and GJ. Gudnomes, New Zealand's most trusted home
builder News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
There'd be fourteen away from three. Well, in an attempt
to boost the ratings of the show, I've gone to
the Alternative Commentary Collective, the head of the ACC Mike Lane,
who has gone to India to watch the final remarkable dedication.
When did you arrive.

Speaker 12 (01:56:43):
I actually arrived in Underbard at about twelve hours ago plenty,
I must admit, given current geopolitical issues going on elsewhere
in the world, it's been quite hard to get here
given the two biggest kind of ports to go through
as Doha in Dubai. So I had to get a
little bit creative. Went through Singapore, Singapore, then over to India.

(01:57:04):
Got their eventually, but a little bit weary. But it's
it's final, say mate, it's all go here. They're pretty
pumped here, I can tell you that. And one hundred
and thirty thousand people are going to be rammed into
the stadium. I actually don't know what to expect, to
be honest, that is one massive humanity.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
That absolutely is. It's an enormous venue and as you say,
ninety nine point nine of them are going to be
wanting India.

Speaker 22 (01:57:28):
Do you have you got it?

Speaker 2 (01:57:29):
Have you got a ticket or at least a media
pass of some sort.

Speaker 12 (01:57:34):
Look, I've left everything very late, pony, I must My
visa came through an hour before I got on the plane,
so that was that was cutting it fine.

Speaker 5 (01:57:43):
Managed to get a ticket.

Speaker 12 (01:57:44):
I did manage to get to take get no media
pass though, I mean myself in the ICC, I've got
a bit of history, pony.

Speaker 7 (01:57:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:57:50):
I won't go into it now, but I don't imagine
they'll be giving me an acreditation anytime soon. So I'm
just going I'm just going in with the with the punters. Jeez,
I don't I actually don't, Like I said, I don't
know what to expect. This is the biggest sports stadium
in the world, which I just read. I was like,
oh my god, So I don't know how early to
get there. Ricky Martin's playing tonight in the closing ceremony,

(01:58:11):
so that's something to look forward to forever.

Speaker 2 (01:58:15):
Sure, it'll be absolutely absolutely Can you even find you?
Have you even find your seat at one hundred and
thirty thousand seats stadium? I don't even know what gates
are going, for goodness sake, I mean, all.

Speaker 12 (01:58:26):
These things are stretching me out, piny fat. And the
fact that good is a dry state as well, that
is stretching me out too, because any stress I can't
relieve by just having my usual stress reliever. So that's
going to be interesting as well. Have man's just smuggling
a BoNT of gin. I just need now to find
basically some tonic and some ice that's not going to
make me go out the eye of a needle at

(01:58:47):
some stage.

Speaker 4 (01:58:47):
So I don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:58:49):
I'll let you know. We're going to get back piny
about what happens. But it's all new to me.

Speaker 2 (01:58:54):
How are you feeling about our chances?

Speaker 12 (01:58:56):
Oh, look, I reckon, it's good. We I'm quietly confident. Look,
I've got a reputation a little bit, piny, I done.
If you know, I've been to three Cricket World Cups
and I've watched his and lose all three. So I
need one. I need one here. And I think India
is the team that we that we want to play
because it's you didn't really want to World Cup until
you've beaten India in the final and they don't have

(01:59:20):
our measure. A lot of teams are intimidated by India.
We seem to be the one one team that's not.
We tip them up in a lot of competitions where
their bogey team. Pull Forward from the VC podcast describes
it quite well, where master is masters of the underdoggery.
We go, we take that underdog tag and we use
it to our best abilities. And I think if we

(01:59:41):
win the toss bold first and then get them out
for under two hundred, Game on, pony, absolutely, game on,
game on, and if.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
If the stuck of yours was to be broken and
the black Caps do when the t twenty Cricket World
come sometime in the next fifteen sixteen hours or so,
surely you'll be invited along as one of the very
few kiwis on the ground there to celebrate with the team.

Speaker 12 (02:00:05):
Well, yeah, we'll hopefully I didn't cover myself in glory
back in twenty fifteen in Melbourne at a team after function.
I'll talk about it. You lad to find your cap.
Talk about that on a here that involves them, That
involves from Savory's been thrown around a room and one
certain member of the New Zealand board got hat. Anyway,
that's another story for another time. There is a few
key he's over here, bumped into a few on the plane,

(02:00:26):
so there's a there's a small contingent. When I say
small contingent, I don't think it'll break three figures. But
there's throughout the kind of kind of Southeast Asia and Singapore,
I saw loads of people kind of get desperately get
last minute visas and get over here, so hopefully we
can break that dark And interestingly, if we win this
T twenty World Cup, we're going to have basically our

(02:00:47):
women's and men's team will be T twenty World Cup
champions and potentially neither of them will be at the
Olympics next.

Speaker 7 (02:00:53):
Year in La.

Speaker 12 (02:00:55):
So think about that for a bit.

Speaker 8 (02:00:57):
I am.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
I am going to think about it. But also if
I look, if I had to seen any one of
our five and a half million over there to be
to get in the faces of the one point four
billion Indians who are going to be buying for our blood,
I would choose, well, I think I would choose you.
You cently me in my top three anyway.

Speaker 12 (02:01:16):
Oh thanks pony. That means that means a lot. I'll
let you. I'll let you know if I perform up
to my abilities come Monday. But I'm definitely looking forward
to it, and I'm looking forward to catch up with
all the other TV's out here that have made the effort,
because it certainly is an effort. Even getting out of
here is proving quite an issue because ICC obviously sponsored
by Emirates and they all go via Dubai. Obviously that

(02:01:39):
corridor is pretty much shut off, so everyone's going back
by Singapore for getting getting home as that is shoe
I got here getting home might be in a shoe,
all right.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
Well, it's good to know that the Weekend Sport and
ACC audience is intersect because there's a text here. Who
the hell let Glane go to the final man? He
is the worst luck ever. It's time to break the duck.
It's time to break the duck.

Speaker 12 (02:02:00):
Yeah, I am known as grim Lane to a few
of the ACC audience, but I need I need to
break it Piney. Any way I can do it is
by watching us barnstorm to victory in the early hours
of tomorrow morning and bringing home the Teacherny World Cup.

Speaker 2 (02:02:14):
Love it, mate, love it. Thanks so much for joining us, Mike,
Mike Lane. There Alternative Commentary Collective. They're hosting a watch along.
Just search for them on socials you'll find it. It's
going to be an absolute cracker. Two thirty Tomorrow morning,
Black Ops the India T twenty Cricket World Cup Final
eight to three News Talks HEADB.

Speaker 1 (02:02:32):
When there's Aline call, It's your call. Weekend Sport with
Jason Vine News Talks V five.

Speaker 2 (02:02:40):
To three and that is pretty much US four Weekend
Sport for Today. The White Ferns have beaten Zimbabwe easily
by eight wickets in the second of their three One
Day internationals and toned an unassailable to no lead in
that series of good omen perhaps for what's going to
happen tomorrow morning at Metabaug. Great to get to Mike
Lane on the show Live from India two thirty tomorrow morning.

(02:03:01):
As I said earlier on in the show, I invite
you to set your alarm for Astall t I'm too
twenty two and get up and watch a better history
we hope being made over there in India. Tim Beverage
on your radio after three o'clock with the Weekend Collective.
Thank you for listening and huge thanks to Mark Kelly
for producing across the weekend. Brilliant to have you alongside, mate.

(02:03:22):
Thanks indeed, exit song today had to be a cricket song.
How's that? See tomorrow night on Sports Talk I'm the
black Caps. Get back for more from Weekends Sport with

(02:04:33):
Jason Fine.

Speaker 1 (02:04:33):
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