December 7, 2024 • 8 mins
James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss Auckland FC's latest win over the Wellington Phoenix - and New Zealand's changing role in the world of football.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine
from Newstalks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
B James mcconey a massive part of our Sunday's alternative
commentary collective crowd goes wild all across your socials and
on our radio.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
How are you mate?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'm great, mate. And also I see Hamilton Boys High
as a big part of your Sunday Steven Alko, I
went to school with him. I hope you've got Scott
Styris stuff after.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The news to complete the holy trinity of Hamilton Boys High.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
The best looking man out of Boys High, those three.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Macony, Elka and Styrus. Who would have thought? Who would
have thought? Hey? Did you enjoy the Derby yesterday?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I love the Derby, the biggest already the biggest domestic
event in New Zealand sport, right it's twenty six thousand.
The noise of fan Fair just the best atmosphere. I
actually caught the train with the yellow Fever, only three carriages,
though Auckland Transport or whoever we should help, could have
(01:05):
done with a you more. But even then they just
set the town. Great fan base from both both sides.
But I having said that the yellow fevers some of
their Andy Auckland songs were a little close to the bone.
For example, you're always stuck in traffic, You're always stuck
in traffic. That won't really hurt.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, it is accurate though, it's fact based, yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But what a game though, piny oh.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
A great game, a brilliant occasion. But on the grass,
you know, this rivalry is real. I thought Costa Barbarussis
has finish was was excellent. I still wonder about Auckland
and look, they won the game and absolutely deserve to
win the game, but an own goal and a goal
by Nander Pineker, a center back, they're not they have
they got the cutting edge up top that they'll be after.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
That's the thing. I think they should have had more
shots on goal. They did boss the game Aukland FC.
So I think we can safely say the best team won.
But they'll be I'm sure Steve Carricter will be annoyed
with maybe just their hesitancy in front of goal. You know,
they just need to pull the trigger a bit quicker.
But there was also I mean it's pretty clear Heiroki Sakai,
(02:12):
the Auclan captain it right back, is probably the best
player in the A League. You know, he could still
play for any club in the world. Obviously played for Marseille.
But there was just some I mean, that own goal
was crazy. I mean, poor Isaac cues the perfect heater
into his own nets. But you could see with Krake.
He was on your show just before saying that they
(02:34):
used the chiefees comments as motivation, that they were lucky
with the drawer. You know, could see, and it just
shows that it's a real battle of the derby. It's
not like a normal game of football where you turn
up and just think, oh, this is going to be fun.
They really fired up, you know, it's like smelling salts
and UFC sort of preparation.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's already, it's already bubbling away. Can't wait for the
next one. In February, Chris Wood underrated, underappreciated.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm not sure that he is.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
He I think we all appreciate, you know, how good
he is, but do we all like really grasp the
magnitude of what he is achieving at this later stage
of his career.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
We probably don't understand how big a deal. I mean,
already double figures before Christmas, he's on target to get
twenty odd goals with season and challenge for the Golden Boot.
I mean, Chris Wood. It's the confidence really that he shows.
I think, you know, if you the faith that Nottingham
Forests have put in him by saying you're starting number nine,
(03:36):
he just keeps on repaying it. I mean, he didn't
score many goals at Newcastle because they just didn't rate
him the way that Forest does. And as soon as
they did that, not only is he transforming their team,
I think he's transforming the league and so they will
be looking to countries like New Zealand for a big striker.
They're not going to be that shy about. It's not
(03:57):
always going to be a little guy from Portugal. Okay,
that he is. He's changing the way that EPL teams
eye players and scout players.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, it's it's a great point because you know, there's
there's more than one way to win a football match,
isn't there? And his way is as effective as as
any other one. Just bringing the table up now, Nottingham
Forest a fifth. You know, Manchester United are currently down
in thirteenth place. If you'd said, you know, after Forest play,
you know, if you said at the start of the season,
(04:26):
after Forest play United in early December, one of the
teams will be fifth and one will be thirteenth. You
know what most people would have said, Oh exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
And if you'd said that the top three goal scorers
just to go, say twenty years ago, and you'd said
the top three goal scorers of the Premier League are
going to be from Norway, Egypt and New Zealand, you
would have got laughed out of town. That football is changing.
It's very much a global game. And we're in the conversation.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I don't think were favorite to win the cricket.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Do you think are not hanging under hope?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
There seventy seventy one for four, so we're almost under
the five hundred needed to I know we are under
the five hundred.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
The targ it's five eighty three. So no, we're not.
We're not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm trying to do my maths on the on the
hop here. Yeah, they're they're getting down to below five
hundred needed to win soon.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Well, it's appropriate they're playing at the basin because this
test series has gone Now mcgurglar, we can officially say
that or it's going down mcgurglar. It's a hangover after India. Really,
I think they've got some selections wrong. Piney. I think
Will Young should have been picked the head of Devin Conway.
I think we should have picked the spinner. Mitch Saner
was fit and I think they should have played him.
(05:37):
I mean, the picks won't help him as much as Mumbai,
but the guy's confidence has got to be sky high.
And I think when you show those guys a bit
like picking Chris Wood, when you show those guys that faith,
you know they'll often to repay you. So I look
at the conversely, look at the English selections. They choose
this guy Jacob Bethel hasn't scored a first class ton,
(05:59):
just missed out yesterday, so he's freeh you know, twenty
one years old. The spinner who's bowling right now. First
class they do for Somerset last year. So it's just
so much more bolden. Every single way tactic selections the works,
and of course Brendan mccullums behind a lot of them,
almost all.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Of that, and I just I wanted to mention him,
and I'm glad you have because Brendan McCullum during a
game of cricket, sits up on the balcony, doesn't have
an iPad, doesn't have a notebook, doesn't have a phone
out that I can see, just sits there and watches
the cricket.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And I'm sure there's more too of than Nan. In fact,
of course we know that there is.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But whatever it is, whatever the secret sources that he's
brought to this England team, I mean, wouldn't it be
great if we had a bit of that.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, we do need to think about I think the
leadership and direction of the team. And let's wait, you know,
I mean they obviously deserve a chance to redeem themselves.
The Third Test is not too far away, so I
just want to see that they can perform and maybe
recapture some of that mojo they had in India. Came
Williams and was looking good there for a while, and
(07:07):
he just went past nine thousand runs and he will
want to get to ten thousand. So I think we've
got him for at least another calendar year, because even
though he's quite low tea and will say, oh, you know,
I don't care about stats. As soon as a player
retires and writes a book, it's all about the stats.
You know, you read it, and it's all they ever
think about. They just learned to lie to us in
the media during their career and that's impressive in itself really.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And just before you go, what's there going to be
a Raygun musical? Raygun The Breakdowns are from Paris?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah, well it's been shut down. So if you're buying
your tickets to Raygun the musical in Sydney, the performer
who was going to stage it has been slapped with
an injunction from Raygun's lawyers threatening to sue. So they've
shut down the show. And so even though Reagun is hilarious,
she's not laughing, is she. So she wants to take
(07:59):
him very seriously. And that's why painting. I think you
and I can help here, and we can make it
happen at the next Kiwi Derby at halftime Raygun versus Raiser,
the breakdown speedtal that everybody wants to see. Get Ali
Williams and the Mowbrays on the phone.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Let's do this, ray Gun versus Razor.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I never thought it would be a sentence I'd say,
but if anyone was going to say it, it was you.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
James always loved chatting mate. Let's do it again next week.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Jeers mate, see your pony, see you, James.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
James mcconey that part of our Sunday's big, part of
our Sunday is a popular part.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine
from Newstalks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
B James mcconey a massive part of our Sunday's alternative
commentary collective crowd goes wild all across your socials and
on our radio.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
How are you mate?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I'm great, mate. And also I see Hamilton Boys High
as a big part of your Sunday Steven Alko, I
went to school with him. I hope you've got Scott
Styris stuff after.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
The news to complete the holy trinity of Hamilton Boys High.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
The best looking man out of Boys High, those three.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Macony, Elka and Styrus. Who would have thought? Who would
have thought? Hey? Did you enjoy the Derby yesterday?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I love the Derby, the biggest already the biggest domestic
event in New Zealand sport, right it's twenty six thousand.
The noise of fan Fair just the best atmosphere. I
actually caught the train with the yellow Fever, only three carriages,
though Auckland Transport or whoever we should help, could have
(01:05):
done with a you more. But even then they just
set the town. Great fan base from both both sides.
But I having said that the yellow fevers some of
their Andy Auckland songs were a little close to the bone.
For example, you're always stuck in traffic, You're always stuck
in traffic. That won't really hurt.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Well, it is accurate though, it's fact based, yeah it is.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But what a game though, piny oh.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
A great game, a brilliant occasion. But on the grass,
you know, this rivalry is real. I thought Costa Barbarussis
has finish was was excellent. I still wonder about Auckland
and look, they won the game and absolutely deserve to
win the game, but an own goal and a goal
by Nander Pineker, a center back, they're not they have
they got the cutting edge up top that they'll be after.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
That's the thing. I think they should have had more
shots on goal. They did boss the game Aukland FC.
So I think we can safely say the best team won.
But they'll be I'm sure Steve Carricter will be annoyed
with maybe just their hesitancy in front of goal. You know,
they just need to pull the trigger a bit quicker.
But there was also I mean it's pretty clear Heiroki Sakai,
(02:12):
the Auclan captain it right back, is probably the best
player in the A League. You know, he could still
play for any club in the world. Obviously played for Marseille.
But there was just some I mean, that own goal
was crazy. I mean, poor Isaac cues the perfect heater
into his own nets. But you could see with Krake.
He was on your show just before saying that they
(02:34):
used the chiefees comments as motivation, that they were lucky
with the drawer. You know, could see, and it just
shows that it's a real battle of the derby. It's
not like a normal game of football where you turn
up and just think, oh, this is going to be fun.
They really fired up, you know, it's like smelling salts
and UFC sort of preparation.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
It's already, it's already bubbling away. Can't wait for the
next one. In February, Chris Wood underrated, underappreciated.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
I'm not sure that he is.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
He I think we all appreciate, you know, how good
he is, but do we all like really grasp the
magnitude of what he is achieving at this later stage
of his career.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
We probably don't understand how big a deal. I mean,
already double figures before Christmas, he's on target to get
twenty odd goals with season and challenge for the Golden Boot.
I mean, Chris Wood. It's the confidence really that he shows.
I think, you know, if you the faith that Nottingham
Forests have put in him by saying you're starting number nine,
(03:36):
he just keeps on repaying it. I mean, he didn't
score many goals at Newcastle because they just didn't rate
him the way that Forest does. And as soon as
they did that, not only is he transforming their team,
I think he's transforming the league and so they will
be looking to countries like New Zealand for a big striker.
They're not going to be that shy about. It's not
(03:57):
always going to be a little guy from Portugal. Okay,
that he is. He's changing the way that EPL teams
eye players and scout players.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, it's it's a great point because you know, there's
there's more than one way to win a football match,
isn't there? And his way is as effective as as
any other one. Just bringing the table up now, Nottingham
Forest a fifth. You know, Manchester United are currently down
in thirteenth place. If you'd said, you know, after Forest play,
you know, if you said at the start of the season,
(04:26):
after Forest play United in early December, one of the
teams will be fifth and one will be thirteenth. You
know what most people would have said, Oh exactly.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
And if you'd said that the top three goal scorers
just to go, say twenty years ago, and you'd said
the top three goal scorers of the Premier League are
going to be from Norway, Egypt and New Zealand, you
would have got laughed out of town. That football is changing.
It's very much a global game. And we're in the conversation.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I don't think were favorite to win the cricket.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Do you think are not hanging under hope?
Speaker 2 (04:59):
There seventy seventy one for four, so we're almost under
the five hundred needed to I know we are under
the five hundred.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
The targ it's five eighty three. So no, we're not.
We're not.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
I'm trying to do my maths on the on the
hop here. Yeah, they're they're getting down to below five
hundred needed to win soon.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Well, it's appropriate they're playing at the basin because this
test series has gone Now mcgurglar, we can officially say
that or it's going down mcgurglar. It's a hangover after India. Really,
I think they've got some selections wrong. Piney. I think
Will Young should have been picked the head of Devin Conway.
I think we should have picked the spinner. Mitch Saner
was fit and I think they should have played him.
(05:37):
I mean, the picks won't help him as much as Mumbai,
but the guy's confidence has got to be sky high.
And I think when you show those guys a bit
like picking Chris Wood, when you show those guys that faith,
you know they'll often to repay you. So I look
at the conversely, look at the English selections. They choose
this guy Jacob Bethel hasn't scored a first class ton,
(05:59):
just missed out yesterday, so he's freeh you know, twenty
one years old. The spinner who's bowling right now. First
class they do for Somerset last year. So it's just
so much more bolden. Every single way tactic selections the works,
and of course Brendan mccullums behind a lot of them,
almost all.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Of that, and I just I wanted to mention him,
and I'm glad you have because Brendan McCullum during a
game of cricket, sits up on the balcony, doesn't have
an iPad, doesn't have a notebook, doesn't have a phone
out that I can see, just sits there and watches
the cricket.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
And I'm sure there's more too of than Nan. In fact,
of course we know that there is.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
But whatever it is, whatever the secret sources that he's
brought to this England team, I mean, wouldn't it be
great if we had a bit of that.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Yeah, we do need to think about I think the
leadership and direction of the team. And let's wait, you know,
I mean they obviously deserve a chance to redeem themselves.
The Third Test is not too far away, so I
just want to see that they can perform and maybe
recapture some of that mojo they had in India. Came
Williams and was looking good there for a while, and
(07:07):
he just went past nine thousand runs and he will
want to get to ten thousand. So I think we've
got him for at least another calendar year, because even
though he's quite low tea and will say, oh, you know,
I don't care about stats. As soon as a player
retires and writes a book, it's all about the stats.
You know, you read it, and it's all they ever
think about. They just learned to lie to us in
the media during their career and that's impressive in itself really.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
And just before you go, what's there going to be
a Raygun musical? Raygun The Breakdowns are from Paris?
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah, well it's been shut down. So if you're buying
your tickets to Raygun the musical in Sydney, the performer
who was going to stage it has been slapped with
an injunction from Raygun's lawyers threatening to sue. So they've
shut down the show. And so even though Reagun is hilarious,
she's not laughing, is she. So she wants to take
(07:59):
him very seriously. And that's why painting. I think you
and I can help here, and we can make it
happen at the next Kiwi Derby at halftime Raygun versus Raiser,
the breakdown speedtal that everybody wants to see. Get Ali
Williams and the Mowbrays on the phone.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Let's do this, ray Gun versus Razor.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I never thought it would be a sentence I'd say,
but if anyone was going to say it, it was you.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
James always loved chatting mate. Let's do it again next week.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Jeers mate, see your pony, see you, James.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
James mcconey that part of our Sunday's big, part of
our Sunday is a popular part.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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