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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks ed B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He's here, Hello mate, Yeda Piney has things very good,
thanks mate, very good. But to get through with you,
so can we start with rugby. The Crusaders are back,
the horses are back. Are they going to win it?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah? Great to see the horses back. I mean iconic. Really,
I was thinking about animals in sport and you know
Philadelphia have got their eagles. You know there's been I
think the Olkloholma Soon has had problems with the horses
slipping a cart at one point. But look, I'm happy
for the Crusaders fans, the people of that region and
(00:44):
look the team you throw Will Jordan back in there
and Scott Barrett and they are definite title contenders, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. They went through some pretty
lean times there a little while ago. They had back
to back losses in Australia, didn't They came back under
the roof of super around. They beat the warriorsars but
lost to the Hurricanes last week. So what's that? Three
losses in their last four before they beat the Blue
They kind of needed to win that game. Didn't they
They were in a bit of danger of being swallowed
up had they not got that victory exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And they just need to make the playoffs because I
think Scott Barrett will be back five of the last
regular season game or the first playoff game. He's going
to play super rugby. He will play super rugby. They
just can't put a date on it. So let's just
watch the space for him. And let's remember he's a
world class player when he's at the peak of his powers.
(01:35):
He is a big human who can mix it with
all of those guys like ebinet Sabeth, And so I
think we just forget how important Scott Barrett is to
the All Blacks. And well, there might be a change
of captaincy, but he's one of the first guys I'd
write down on my team sheet anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, and look, and when they get him back, and
you're right, if they get Will Jordan back, then the
Crusaders are an entirely different proposition, aren't they. If we
look at the top. If we look at the top
of the table, we've got the Hurricanes they're on forty
five points, the Chiefs they are on forty points. Both
of those teams have played eleven games. The Blues have
played twelve games. They're on thirty eight, then the Crusader's
twelve games thirty two. The Hurricanes relatively comfortable against Mawana
(02:14):
last night. The Chiefs getting home in a tough environment
in Brisbane to beat the Reds who are Super Rugby favorites.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
James Well without cam roy Guard, I think it moves
the needle towards the Chiefs, but not enough for me.
I think they've got enough cover there At the Hurricanes,
They're still a well oiled machine. Rubin Love will be
back soon. I know. A calf injury, which is what
cam roy Guard has got and coincidentally what Will Jordan's
been battling with will take a little bit of time.
(02:45):
But I think that it's the Hurricanes title. They are
the front runners. Hurricanes titled to lose, but I did.
There's two things that I wanted to talk about. One
is Josh Morby. I mean, we can't have Fi Finiang
and all four going to Newcastle. That's a given, so
I'll be happy with Josh Morby. He reminds me of
(03:06):
He's a Ben Smith type guy you hard to put
down on the first tackle, all about support, play, speed,
multi skilled, you know the foot fullback type skills and
twelve tries. He's actually breathing down for his neck. He's
got fifteen and is about to break the record.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Crazy twenty seven tries between those two guys. Mawana as
a team have only got thirty six all season and
those two twenty seven? Did you hear Clark Ladler afterwards?
He said, oh, maybe this will chair Josh upper, but
he's been a bit grumpy that the other bloke's getting
all the tries.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah. And then meanwhile over on the Chief side, it's
the comeback or the re emergence of Wallace a Titi.
He is crucial and probably future captain, c material full
of the All Blacks. So I think Wallace coming back
and playing that well in a really competive game against
the Reds says to me that. I mean, he broke
(03:58):
the Hurricanes hearts a few years ago. We all know
about that, but it's more that he is he's an
other one, he'd say, is a starting lineup All Black
and look, I love what Lester fin and Uk is
doing at number seven, but I still think he's someone
who can transform the bench for the All Blacks if
you like or or play in as a midfielder and
(04:21):
then switch later in the game. That's I know lots
of people are talking about and switching to the Hordes.
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I've got I've got Wallace a TT and my best
All Blacks fifteen. What a player, James, what a player?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, Wallace is and I think we're spoilt for choice
at loost forward. I like all these I mean I
like Devin Flanders and he's signed to go overseas. So
there's a player draining thing that Steve Lancaster has to
address as well. But it's just nice seeing Caleb Tangy
tail back out there because really, at when we do
need some excitement machines when we play South Africa and
(04:58):
this year, let's be honest, it's all about that South
African tour. That could be the breakout for someone like
Caleb tangytoel and we've seen wingers do for the All
Blacks many times in their debut year and of course
you know nehim and the scatter is probably the standout
in recent times.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, we've had a lot of discussions about this. The
hot hand as yet into a World Cup. Yeah, particularly
in those in those wing spots. Yeah, up for grabs,
up for grabs. A couple of other matters I want
to ask you about a league semis. The OrCAD FC
Adelaide tie is tied up at one apiece after last night.
Neither coach last night wanted to wanted to say that
Adelaide were favorite. The Adelaid coach didn't want to say, oh,
(05:37):
we favorite, and Steve Goreker said they're not favorite. We've
just got to go there and win. So quite an
intriguing second league coming up next Friday.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah. I don't know how you feel about Adelaide Piney,
but I think they are the danger team for and
they have been for all New Zealand sides in recent history.
And they've got those three things that you really need
in the A League. One is a senior pro who's
just an all time grade of the club, and they've
got that in Craig Goodwin left wing, a great left foot,
(06:06):
you know, he holds it down together and all the
attacker goes through him too. They've got speed, so they
used to have him the story and Aaron Kunda who's
gone away tanzan nball players. Now I think with Watford
pointing yep, ye, Well they've got Yadu Cooley, who's who
created their goal, their equalizer. He's at so much pace
(06:27):
no one can actually live with him. And I worry
about what he could do to Auckland over there. And
I've got a youngster who's going to obviously go and
do really good things in Europe eventually. That's Harry Crawford.
Does ORGANC have players to combat that? Well, we had
Jesse Randal in really good form. I think we're more
of a collective than having I guess those elite pieces
(06:50):
that Adelaide have.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, and then and then so then you ask yourself, Okay,
in a semi final and what is now effectively an
elimination game on Friday, that's what it is. Forget about
last night. We're basically in a one off game.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Is it more important to have game breakers who can
seize upon moments or do you need that collect And
I don't know what the answer it's I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, And that's the one thing is I think we
need Jesse Randall to come alive again because he is
that expector he I mean, it's all well and good
scoring from set pieces, and I love that we did that.
Auckland Es he do that, but it's just and look
all eyes on Geomo mind. I'm not sure what his
injury is, but that is a problem too.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, ankle injury. By the sounds of it, not good,
not good. So I guess we wait for an update.
Just before you go, Charlie slid your walker as officially
in w NBA players. She's made her debut for Connecticut
Son or the Connecticut Connecticut Son.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yes, a struggling Connecticut Sun. They lost pretty heavily to
the New York Liberty, who did win the title a
couple of years ago. But the heartening thing is the
twenty one minutes. Okay, she only scored four points, but
twenty one minute says to me that she's very much
a big part of their plans. Is no way they
would have taken her that high in the draft if
they didn't want her to be playing big minutes and
(08:08):
running their offense. They do have a really good point
guard ahead of her, Samiya Rivers, but she's a taller,
more kind of like defensive oriented, can do everything sort
of point guard. I think they're going to watch the
space in a few weeks time. I think they'll run.
Those two can coexist, and we'll get to see Charlie's
(08:28):
as one of the key game drivers for that team.
So I'm pumped.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'd take ten seconds in the NBA. I'd be happy
with ten seconds twenty one minutes in her first game.
As you say, the first twenty one of many, you'd
have to think, surely.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, the good thing with you, Poney, is it actually
looked a part in the NBA. You know. The problem
with me is not many of my body type of
the NBA. And we'll just leave it there. But it
was always a dream. I love the idea of being
able to play basketball really well. And you know I
could touch the hoop at my peak, Poney, but I
could never dunk. I'm sure you could.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
No, I know that's the thing. I never could. I
I've got a lot of height. I'm a bit taller
than you. So I've clearly didn't have what my son
would call the hops. I didn't have the hops.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
The hops are actually speaking of big deals and big leapers.
Steve Lancaster, he's on the Rugby CEO, is live on
the Breakdown tonight seven thirty on Sky Sport one, so
I should mention a very good jumper as well. He
could dunk ex Crusader's luck and definitely tune in for that.
(09:36):
And if you've got questions, there is a thing called
your shout with your skin your QR code and you
can put lengths on the spot. He's a really candid
sort of open guy, so I look forward to him
being on the Breakdown tonight on.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Sky good Man, James, We'll look forward to having you
back next Sunday. At the same time, always enjoy our chats.
Thanks so much as always, James mcconey. Crag Goes Wild
the alternative commentary collective across your socials as well and
a big part of our Sunday afternoons.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks ed B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He's here, Hello mate, Yeda Piney has things very good,
thanks mate, very good. But to get through with you,
so can we start with rugby. The Crusaders are back,
the horses are back. Are they going to win it?
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Yeah? Great to see the horses back. I mean iconic. Really,
I was thinking about animals in sport and you know
Philadelphia have got their eagles. You know there's been I
think the Olkloholma Soon has had problems with the horses
slipping a cart at one point. But look, I'm happy
for the Crusaders fans, the people of that region and
(00:44):
look the team you throw Will Jordan back in there
and Scott Barrett and they are definite title contenders, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, I agree. I agree. They went through some pretty
lean times there a little while ago. They had back
to back losses in Australia, didn't They came back under
the roof of super around. They beat the warriorsars but
lost to the Hurricanes last week. So what's that? Three
losses in their last four before they beat the Blue
They kind of needed to win that game. Didn't they
They were in a bit of danger of being swallowed
up had they not got that victory exactly.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And they just need to make the playoffs because I
think Scott Barrett will be back five of the last
regular season game or the first playoff game. He's going
to play super rugby. He will play super rugby. They
just can't put a date on it. So let's just
watch the space for him. And let's remember he's a
world class player when he's at the peak of his powers.
(01:35):
He is a big human who can mix it with
all of those guys like ebinet Sabeth, And so I
think we just forget how important Scott Barrett is to
the All Blacks. And well, there might be a change
of captaincy, but he's one of the first guys I'd
write down on my team sheet anyway.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, and look, and when they get him back, and
you're right, if they get Will Jordan back, then the
Crusaders are an entirely different proposition, aren't they. If we
look at the top. If we look at the top
of the table, we've got the Hurricanes they're on forty
five points, the Chiefs they are on forty points. Both
of those teams have played eleven games. The Blues have
played twelve games. They're on thirty eight, then the Crusader's
twelve games thirty two. The Hurricanes relatively comfortable against Mawana
(02:14):
last night. The Chiefs getting home in a tough environment
in Brisbane to beat the Reds who are Super Rugby favorites.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
James Well without cam roy Guard, I think it moves
the needle towards the Chiefs, but not enough for me.
I think they've got enough cover there At the Hurricanes,
They're still a well oiled machine. Rubin Love will be
back soon. I know. A calf injury, which is what
cam roy Guard has got and coincidentally what Will Jordan's
been battling with will take a little bit of time.
(02:45):
But I think that it's the Hurricanes title. They are
the front runners. Hurricanes titled to lose, but I did.
There's two things that I wanted to talk about. One
is Josh Morby. I mean, we can't have Fi Finiang
and all four going to Newcastle. That's a given, so
I'll be happy with Josh Morby. He reminds me of
(03:06):
He's a Ben Smith type guy you hard to put
down on the first tackle, all about support, play, speed,
multi skilled, you know the foot fullback type skills and
twelve tries. He's actually breathing down for his neck. He's
got fifteen and is about to break the record.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Crazy twenty seven tries between those two guys. Mawana as
a team have only got thirty six all season and
those two twenty seven? Did you hear Clark Ladler afterwards?
He said, oh, maybe this will chair Josh upper, but
he's been a bit grumpy that the other bloke's getting
all the tries.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah. And then meanwhile over on the Chief side, it's
the comeback or the re emergence of Wallace a Titi.
He is crucial and probably future captain, c material full
of the All Blacks. So I think Wallace coming back
and playing that well in a really competive game against
the Reds says to me that. I mean, he broke
(03:58):
the Hurricanes hearts a few years ago. We all know
about that, but it's more that he is he's an
other one, he'd say, is a starting lineup All Black
and look, I love what Lester fin and Uk is
doing at number seven, but I still think he's someone
who can transform the bench for the All Blacks if
you like or or play in as a midfielder and
(04:21):
then switch later in the game. That's I know lots
of people are talking about and switching to the Hordes.
I don't think so.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I've got I've got Wallace a TT and my best
All Blacks fifteen. What a player, James, what a player?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, Wallace is and I think we're spoilt for choice
at loost forward. I like all these I mean I
like Devin Flanders and he's signed to go overseas. So
there's a player draining thing that Steve Lancaster has to
address as well. But it's just nice seeing Caleb Tangy
tail back out there because really, at when we do
need some excitement machines when we play South Africa and
(04:58):
this year, let's be honest, it's all about that South
African tour. That could be the breakout for someone like
Caleb tangytoel and we've seen wingers do for the All
Blacks many times in their debut year and of course
you know nehim and the scatter is probably the standout
in recent times.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Yeah, we've had a lot of discussions about this. The
hot hand as yet into a World Cup. Yeah, particularly
in those in those wing spots. Yeah, up for grabs,
up for grabs. A couple of other matters I want
to ask you about a league semis. The OrCAD FC
Adelaide tie is tied up at one apiece after last night.
Neither coach last night wanted to wanted to say that
Adelaide were favorite. The Adelaid coach didn't want to say, oh,
(05:37):
we favorite, and Steve Goreker said they're not favorite. We've
just got to go there and win. So quite an
intriguing second league coming up next Friday.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Yeah. I don't know how you feel about Adelaide Piney,
but I think they are the danger team for and
they have been for all New Zealand sides in recent history.
And they've got those three things that you really need
in the A League. One is a senior pro who's
just an all time grade of the club, and they've
got that in Craig Goodwin left wing, a great left foot,
(06:06):
you know, he holds it down together and all the
attacker goes through him too. They've got speed, so they
used to have him the story and Aaron Kunda who's
gone away tanzan nball players. Now I think with Watford
pointing yep, ye, Well they've got Yadu Cooley, who's who
created their goal, their equalizer. He's at so much pace
(06:27):
no one can actually live with him. And I worry
about what he could do to Auckland over there. And
I've got a youngster who's going to obviously go and
do really good things in Europe eventually. That's Harry Crawford.
Does ORGANC have players to combat that? Well, we had
Jesse Randal in really good form. I think we're more
of a collective than having I guess those elite pieces
(06:50):
that Adelaide have.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah, and then and then so then you ask yourself, Okay,
in a semi final and what is now effectively an
elimination game on Friday, that's what it is. Forget about
last night. We're basically in a one off game.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Is it more important to have game breakers who can
seize upon moments or do you need that collect And
I don't know what the answer it's I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, And that's the one thing is I think we
need Jesse Randall to come alive again because he is
that expector he I mean, it's all well and good
scoring from set pieces, and I love that we did that.
Auckland Es he do that, but it's just and look
all eyes on Geomo mind. I'm not sure what his
injury is, but that is a problem too.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, ankle injury. By the sounds of it, not good,
not good. So I guess we wait for an update.
Just before you go, Charlie slid your walker as officially
in w NBA players. She's made her debut for Connecticut
Son or the Connecticut Connecticut Son.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yes, a struggling Connecticut Sun. They lost pretty heavily to
the New York Liberty, who did win the title a
couple of years ago. But the heartening thing is the
twenty one minutes. Okay, she only scored four points, but
twenty one minute says to me that she's very much
a big part of their plans. Is no way they
would have taken her that high in the draft if
they didn't want her to be playing big minutes and
(08:08):
running their offense. They do have a really good point
guard ahead of her, Samiya Rivers, but she's a taller,
more kind of like defensive oriented, can do everything sort
of point guard. I think they're going to watch the
space in a few weeks time. I think they'll run.
Those two can coexist, and we'll get to see Charlie's
(08:28):
as one of the key game drivers for that team.
So I'm pumped.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'd take ten seconds in the NBA. I'd be happy
with ten seconds twenty one minutes in her first game.
As you say, the first twenty one of many, you'd
have to think, surely.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Well, the good thing with you, Poney, is it actually
looked a part in the NBA. You know. The problem
with me is not many of my body type of
the NBA. And we'll just leave it there. But it
was always a dream. I love the idea of being
able to play basketball really well. And you know I
could touch the hoop at my peak, Poney, but I
could never dunk. I'm sure you could.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
No, I know that's the thing. I never could. I
I've got a lot of height. I'm a bit taller
than you. So I've clearly didn't have what my son
would call the hops. I didn't have the hops.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
The hops are actually speaking of big deals and big leapers.
Steve Lancaster, he's on the Rugby CEO, is live on
the Breakdown tonight seven thirty on Sky Sport one, so
I should mention a very good jumper as well. He
could dunk ex Crusader's luck and definitely tune in for that.
(09:36):
And if you've got questions, there is a thing called
your shout with your skin your QR code and you
can put lengths on the spot. He's a really candid
sort of open guy, so I look forward to him
being on the Breakdown tonight on.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Sky good Man, James, We'll look forward to having you
back next Sunday. At the same time, always enjoy our chats.
Thanks so much as always, James mcconey. Crag Goes Wild
the alternative commentary collective across your socials as well and
a big part of our Sunday afternoons.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk Set B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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