May 2, 2025 • 46 mins
The gang discuss the arrests of two judges, a flurry of executive orders further weaponizing police and the justice system, plus an update on tariffs and immigration.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Sorry, Garrison, wow, I interrupted you.
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Happen we have been.
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This is the first episode that started differently in like twelve.
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That's not what it's called. This is it could happen here.
Executive Disorder, the weekly newscast where we cover, you know,
everything happening in the White House, the crumbling world, and
what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis. I'm joined
by Federal No No New Mexico State.
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Mexican Mexico, Municipal Judge.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Municipal Judge Robert Evans. That's right, Neil Long and James Stout.
We're covering the week of April twenty fourth to April thirtieth.
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We will accept their contract money one day. Robert, what's
going on with your fellow judges.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I want to get to that, Garrison. Some very important
news just dropped from the real Raw News Twitter account.
Oh boys, sharing what you don't want shared one hundred
and seven thousand followers. Special forces that accompanied President Trump
to the Pope's funeral arrested Biden for treason afterward, but
it turned out to be a body double, So.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Breaking news.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Joe still has a trigger too up his sleep, Patriots
not in control.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
What a beautiful world people must live.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I desperately want to lift in the world where like
Joe Biden is a Saga era type rebel figure, like
tricking special forces with body doubles, hiding in the mountains.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
They called him Joe the Jackal for a reason.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Yeah, he locked up in a Vatican vaults where he's
scheming his return.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
He just stolen nuke from Fort Leonard Wood. Oh boy,
he's in a tiny submarine making its way to keep
it right.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Now, I guess you know, speaking of the pope, but
Trump himself has announced his running for the pope ship paper.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Why not let him have it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Let him have it, We will keep a close eye
on that.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Let him have it.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
But make Stanley Tucci do whatever job Stanley Tucci had
in conclave.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Make him the lib A cuck cardinal. Why not?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
That's right, that's right, speaking of lib cut No, speaking
of judges, who actually exercised a great deal of personal courage.
There have been two cases in the last week or
so of judges being arrested and charged by the Trump
administration with crimes that are all related to aiding and
debedding undocumented immigrants. Right, I'm going to start with the
case of Hannah Dugan. Hannah Dugan is a Wisconsin She's
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a Milwaukee County Circuit judge. She was sworn in in
twenty sixteen. So she's I wanted to say, I wanted
to say she hasn't been doing this very long, but no,
that's literally like nine years, eight or nine years, so
she's been doing this a spell. She's sixty five years old.
And on March twelfth, there was a fellow Flora's Ruiz
is his last name. He's thirty years old, who was
arrested after basically there was a confrontation between him and
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his roommates for him playing loud music. He was confronted
for this on March twelfth, and he allegedly fought with
a male roommate in the kitchen. A woman I'm not
sure if she was a roommate or just there tried
to break them up. Two women eventually did. One of
them got elbowed in the arm, allegedly by Flores Ruiz.
One of them was struck while trying to break them up.
(03:32):
It is unclear to the degree to which I'm hearing
a lot of people like I went to the centrist
subreddit to see this, and they're like, well, a serial
abuser of women.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
That's not really what he's being accused of.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
There's like a fight between him and another guy and
it got chaotic. One person elbowed in the arm. I'm sorry,
I don't consider that serious domestic abuse unless it's part
of a pattern. If it's literally he was fighting a
guy and other people swarmed in and some of them
one of them got elbowed. I don't know about this
woman that he's alleged of striking, Like to what degree
did he haul off and punch her or was it again,
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there was this chaotic struggle and several people got struck
in the middle of it. Right, this isn't like great,
but this is certainly not. The evidence that has been
provided by the state here in this case is not
that this is a serial domestic abuser of women. It's
a guy who was involved in a chaotic fight with
a roommate and a couple of other people. Right, So
he's being charged with misdemeanor domestic battery as a result
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of this. He faces up to nine months in prison
and a ten thousand dollars fine on each count if convicted,
and he has not been convicted and is innocent until
proven guilty. So he went up in front of Judge
Dugan literally a few days ago when we record this,
and while she was in the midst of like having
this like court meeting. Basically, I think this was kind
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of like a pre trial deal, right where they're kind
of like setting the ground rules of things. She finds
out that Ice is in the courthouse and that they
are looking for Flores Ruiz, and so she gets really
angry because based on what Wisconsin has stated, like the
actual law in the state, they are not supposed to
be interfering in actual court proceedings. And part of the
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reason why is that the courts don't want people to
be dissuaded from dealing with their state level court issues
by the fact that Ice might pick them up.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It will stop people, It will make people go on
the run. It makes it very difficult to enforce law
and order, and it also like victims, right, Like I've said,
at least if some makes it difficult for victims to
get any sort of justice.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The FBI affidavit describes hers getting visibly angry when Immigration
shows up and she leaves the bench right, and she
retreats to her chambers and I think confers with another judge,
and she and that judge then approach the arrest team
inside the courthouse. The affidavit describes her as having a confrontational,
angry demeanor. She basically keeps saying, show me a fucking warrant, right,
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And they don't have a quote unquote real warrant, right,
They do not have a criminal arrest warrant. They have
an administrative warrant, which, based on the actual law, they
do not. She does not have to let them in, right,
That is not the way these things fucking work right
into the courtroom to like interrupt the proceedings on the
strength of this warrant. She tells them to speak with
the chief judge, and she leads them away from the
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courtroom right once. She sends them to the chief Judge's office.
This is where the thing that may in fact be
criminal behavior comes in, Dugan goes back into the courtroom
and says something along the lines of weight, come with me,
and then takes Flora's Ruiz and his lawyer through the
jury door into a non public area of the courthouse. Right,
this is not normal behavior. And Ice is alleging that
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this is interfering with the duties of federal agents, right,
that she's basically hiding an undocumented immigrant who is being
actively tracked by Ice, right, and that that is a
federal crime. And so that is the situation.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
When it was found out that this was happening, the
FBI and ICE arrested her. She has since bailed out.
She is facing several federal charges, and it's you know,
kind of unclear where this case is going to go.
In terms of her initial behavior. She was absolutely legally
in the right. That administrative warrant did not give Ice
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the right to interrupt the court proceedings. She led them
to the chief judge. That was all entirely within the law.
We're going to learn how the law adjudicates what she
did afterwards, Right, taking these people through, because it's not
illegal to lead people through a back door. It's not
a crime to tell people to leave this way. But
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what may be adjudicated as a crime is that by
doing this, she was helping to aid in a bet
the escape of a fugitive, Right, And that is the
argument that the federal government is making here.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, they didn't leave the building at that point, right,
because in the charging documents, then an ICE agent gets
in the elevator with them, yeah, and decides not to
detain them at that point for some reason. Yeah. Yeah,
I believe that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And that part of is why I think they picked
this case because they thought it was close enough on
the edge enough that they could charge a judge. And
I think that is the purpose of this more than
going after this, and that's why they've been going to
these courtses. They have been looking, they've been shopping for
a situation like this, right, in part because one of
the first things that happened is the Wisconsin Supreme Court
suspended Judge Dugan right because she's been charged with two
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federal counts. And this is a normal thing. If a
judge gets accused of federal crimes, you would, in normal
terms want them to be suspended because those crimes are
probably something like they were selling children to a child prison,
which is a thing that happened to Trump. Pardon the
judges responsible, right, you would want those people not trying
cases while this was going on. But what's going to
be done here, and what's already being done here, is
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that judges that are friendly to and sympathetic to undocumented
people and who are not gigantic pieces of shit. And
Judge Dugan comes out of a public defense background. This
is somebody who defended people like the defendant in this
case in her previous life as a lawyer, and I
think acted with tremendous courage in this situation to try
to protect somebody. They are going after her because remember one,
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they want to chill other judges from doing this, and
number two, they can keep her off the bench right
and assume she will be replaced with somebody worse, or
that they will just clog up the system, either way
of which works in their favor. So it will be
unclear how things are going to work out in this case.
I can't tell you legally what's going to happen that
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could go either way. I can tell you, and I
think this is a very important point. It's a point
Jared Yate Sexton, who's a scholar on fascism, made online
about this particular case is we shouldn't give a shit
if she broke the law. She did the right thing.
These people are doing the wrong thing and they need
to be stopped right And that is my overall stance.
(09:42):
What she did was heroic and we should support her
and fuck these people.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't know, Yeah, yep, yep. I don't have a
complicated take on that.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Solidarity with the Wisconsin judiciary or at least one of them.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
At least one of them.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I have a friend who knows her and says she's
a very nice person, and her actions in this case
certainly would seem to suggest that she's a very nice,
good courageous person.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, and like just to there's conceivably like a person
listening who thinks that, you know, these deportation things are okay.
I know if you are, fuck you, why this isn't
for you? Go away? Yeah, well, yeah, we're not making
it for you.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Put rocks in your pockets, and yeah there's bodies of it.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Whatever the even if you fucking like the deportation for
whatever reason, you should be able to understand that doing
this in court houses is bad if a let's just
take an example, right, like, if a woman who is
undocumented is subject to domestic violence, right, going to testifying
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court could lead to her being deported, Like, this is
fucking bad.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
It could subject her to even more violence from the
state from yeah, wherever she's trying to flee from, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
To being detained with people yeah, yes, if you leave
in the judicial system right like, this stops it functioning.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Also, I want to say this too, if you're purely
coming at this from a perspective of like, well, I'm
still a law and order guy, this also vastly endangers
Wisconsin police because if every undocumented person who gets accused
of a crime knows that, well, the instant I'm accused,
I'm going to be sent to a fucking concentration camp.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Might as well start shooting, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
It's why you don't see very many of these things
happening in states where people regularly carry firearms.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yes, so again, you know that's all I'm saying. That's
not my primary concern, but I'm going to make that point.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, what about the other like weirder case of the
New Mexico case.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
The judge in New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yes, so now back to my fellow New Mexico municipal judge.
Actually think he was a judge, yea county magistrate. Yeah,
so he and I basically the same. So there's this
guy Nancy Cano who's a former police officer, his wife
was a cop. And Joel Cano, who is the Donna
Anna County magistrate judge. These two are really you wouldn't
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have expected what happened from this group. These two are
a cop and a judge.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Couple radical lefty lunatics who.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Are wealthy landlords who own at least eight properties, and
they hire three men to do like you know, contracting work.
And those men included a guy Christian Ortega Lopez twenty
three years old, right, who is a Venezuelan migrant. And
first off, because these are cops or a cop and
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a judge, they like check his papers which say do
not deport right, like he is in the the system,
not subject. This person is not subject to removal, right,
those are on his papers. They check his papers. They
work for these three guys, work for them for a
while and develop a close relationship with the Catos to
the point that they refer to them as the boys,
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and when they get kicked out of their apartment, they
let them live with them, I think for free or
at least for a nominal fee. And as they describe it,
they came to consider them part of the family. And
there's like photo evidence of that, including photo evidence of
them like going to the gun range together as like
a family day at the gun range and shooting. And
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like this guy Artago Lopez like posts pictures of these
people and these like family outings on his Facebook, like
they really do seem to have all been very close. Yeah,
earlier this year, Ice comes for these guys, the boys,
these three dudes who are living on their property, in
a small guest house on the Knos property, and they
allege or Tega Ortiz to have been a member of
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Trinda Agua. And it's based on and I hate most
of the reporting on this because it's all just like
the alleged alleged gang member, alleged Trinda Agua member. And
you look at it as well, he has tattoos and
there's pictures of him with guns, pictures him with guns
that are legally owned by Americans at a gun range.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, he's a twenty three year old guy coming to America,
Like there's a high correlation with those people and people
going to a gun range.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, nothing illegal with that, but they're like a gang
member photos of guns on his Facebook.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So these guys get arrested, right, and it's initially and
this is like a month or so ago. It's big scandal.
Cano resigns from his position as a magistrate, right and
gets permanently barred serving as a judge in New Mexico
because these guys had been on his property, even though
again there's not any evidence that I have seen anywhere
that he actually did anything illegal at this point. Now, yeah,
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here's where things get problematic. At this point, the boys
are being you know, the government is treating them as
people who are here illgally, and they are trying to
kick them out, and they are accusing them, these three guys,
of being evolved in Trindagua. At this point, Nancy Kano
provides them with legal assistance in complying with the procedures
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of their pending immigration cases, right, which shouldn't be illegal.
She's literally helping them abide by the law. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
But there's some other things.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So Joel Cano, this is where this guy turns from
like fucking married a cop, he's a landlord, he smashes
or take a Lopez's phone. He admits, he's admitted that
he's done this. This is not an allegation with a
hammer to stop Ice from getting it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So, first off, based.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Illegal, super illegal, super illegal, but not a like a
good person act, I would argue. Secondly, Nancy tries to help,
and this is I think a grayer area. Tries to
help or tag A Lopez delete his Facebook account, and
I don't actually think there's any evidence of him doing
anything illegal on there. I think it's just they knew
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the photos he'd posted of him not breaking any laws
would be used as an argument that he had I
think that that's defensible in court, although they will allege
that it's destruction with the evidence that they may win
on that. Breaking the phone is a you know, that's
going to be a tough one for them. That's just
going to be a tough one for them. Now the
Kno's are currently being charged and they have been released.
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They can't leave the county. There was the prosecutors where
tim they have them separated so that they couldn't talk
about the case. But thank god the judge ruling was, like,
they're married, they have a constitutional right.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
To be together. You don't get to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But obviously they have to like hand in their passports
any guns they'd had, which they seem to have already done.
The good news is that these are rich people, right
Like the judge even makes a comment that, like, these
are the wealthiest people I've ever had in my courtroom,
so they have the resources to fight this. And again
fucking politics making strange bedfellows. Yep, Yeah, critical support to
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the landlord, judge, cop couple who tried to protect these immigrits.
I don't know, Like whatever they did the right thing,
you know, in my opinion, again not the legal thing,
and I'm not urging you to follow them and breaking
the law, making very clear it is illegal to break
the phone of somebody that you know the police are
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looking for. Because they've been charged with crimes. That is
a crime. I'm just saying. I think what they did
was out of love and brave anyway, That's what I
gotta say.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Speaking of love, I love these ads. All Right, we
are back.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I am now going to discuss a I believe the
word is a flurry of executive orders that happened the
past week, because there was a ton This was a
huge week for actions through through through executive order. We've
tried to summarize a few of these that have like
or a few orders that have come in the past
few months. But but yeah, definitely the ones that happened
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last week are much more notable, and I will.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Go through them one by one.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Starting off with an attempt to possibly repeal large sections
of the Civil Rights Act, Trump side in order to
quote eliminate the use of disparate impact liability in all
contexts to the maximum degree possible. Disparate impact is a
legal theory that seeks to address discriminatory policies that, on
their face may appear neutral but actually continue decades old,
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like discrimination and segregation. This order from Trump provokes presidential
approval for Title six antidiscrimination regulations from the sixties and seventies,
and orders all agencies to quote deprioritize enforcement of all
statutes and regulations to the extent that they include disparate
impact liability. The order calls for the Attorney General to
quote initiate appropriate action to repeal or amend the implementing
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regulations for Title six the Civil Rights Act of nineteen
sixty four. Cabinet members were also instructed to review all
pending investigations, civil suits, consent judgments, permanent injunctions, and government
positions that rely on sparate impact theory. That includes Titles
seven and eight of the Civil Rights Act, which protects
equal employment and fair housing. This is kind of part
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of a larger attack on civil rights in general. Obviously
the past few months you've this with like DEI stuff,
But last week the DOJ essentially closed its existing civil
rights office, resigned a dozen senior career attorneys, curbed investigations
into police misconduct and violations of voting and disability rights. Plus,
the Education at Discrimination Division is now being directed to
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protect women's sports, and the Immigrant and Employee Rights Division
was told to investigate companies that quote unlawfully discriminate against
US workers in favor of foreign visa workers unquote. So
that's how they think they're going to be defending civil
rights is by keeping trans girls out of sports and
going after foreign visa workers. Basically, they're trying to turn
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federal civil rights infrastructure against those whom they were meant
to protect in the first place. The next order kind
of outlies something I'm calling cop Nation. It's called quote
strengthening and unleashing America's law enforcement to pursue criminals and
protect innocent civilians. This is kind of like a proto
martial law order. It's what you would do beforehand to
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strengthen police, but not actually declare martial law. It's setting
kind of the path towards that, or at the very
least like strengthening law enforcement to the degree to which
it like butts up against what martial law would be.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
The order calls to.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Quote unleash high impact local police forces, protect and defend
law enforcement officers wrongly accused and abused by state or
local officials, and surge resources to officers in need unquote.
It directs the Attorney General to create a mechanism to
have private sector law firms provide pro bono legal defense
to police officers who quote unjustly incur expenses and liabilities
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for actions taken during the performance of their official duties
to enforce the law unquote. So this tries to make
it harder for police to be held accountable for a
civil and criminal misconduct, basically extending qualified immunity to the
criminal realm. According to Business Insider, quote, allowing previous executive
orders to targeting a number of elite firms. Nine law
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firms have agreed to deals with the President and collectively
agreed to provide nine hundred and forty million in pro
bono legal services to support the President's policies. This order
also calls to use federal resources to increase pay, expand training,
and strengthen legal protections for police officers, as well as
to quote seek enhanced sentences for crimes against law enforcement officers,
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promote investment in the security and capacity of prisons, and
increase the investment in and collection, distribution and uniformity of
crime data across jurisdictions. The Attorney General is directed to
review and remove any previous accountability restrictions placed on to
local or state law enforcement agencies that might unduly impede
the performance of law enforcement functions. And then finally, quote,
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Attorney General and the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with
the Secretary of Homeland Security and the heads of agencies
as appropriate, shall increase the provision of excess military and
national security assets in local jurisdictions to assist state and
local law enforcement and shall determine how military and national
security assets, training, non lethal capabilities, and personnel can most
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effectively be utilized to prevent crime unquote, so moving more
national security resources over to state and local law enforcement,
and directs the AG to go after state and local
officials that struck to criminal law by quote, prohibiting law
enforcement officers from carrying out duties necessary for public safety
or unlawfully engage in discrimination or civil rights violations under
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the guise of DEI do you want to discuss anything
with this you know, anti ACAB executive order here and
what it might actually like do in reality besides you know,
expanding like legal protections for cops.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I mean, I think the worrying ones to me is
that they're very explicitly talking about using military national security
assets like in the US against Americans, and the thing
right now we're doing is like to prevent crime. But
like I think very obviously everyone who's like to disny
imediately gone. Like part of this obviously is about like
trying to defeat any attempt to even moderately reform the police,
But a lot of it is also like, yeah, they're
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expecting giant They're expecting giant protests this summer. Yeah, and
they want to be able to use military assets here.
And what they're doing with this, the Secretary of Defense
is developing a plan to use military assets like presumably
against protesters either that or you know what I mean,
Like cecific thing here is like used to prevent crime,
which is just like the deployment of the US military
against like US Right, that's I think a pretty cut
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in dry. They are developing the apparatus through which they
are going to attempt to deploy the army against the
US citizens in the US.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Well.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
And it's also specifically like empowers like individual police officers
against any like perceived restrictions that like local or state
officials might be putting on them.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, And I think that's what makes it more super
worrying for me.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
It's like it's like enabling like the police state aspect
of like of the of the executive branch saying hey,
like individual cops, we support you more so than whatever
like local jurisdiction you are like under and if if
the local jurisdictions start to restrict your ability to like
to to do violence, restrict your ability to do your job,
we are going to help you to make sure that
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you have the legal and like physical capacity to continue
your job as you see fit.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
We will throw the high dollar lawyers that we have
threatened into working for us at these states and municipalities.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, both to like defend your individual actions and then
also go after the people in charge of you, like
like both of them.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
So it's more like CPD black site shit, like yeah,
Nazi gang shit, like you know them just like shooting people. Yeah,
Like that's the kind of shit.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
The torture, the data sharing, I think is something people
should be aware of. The like that that seemed to
be what I would imagine will be funding for more
federal fusion centers and then equipping them with like homeland
security assets, intelligence assets that are already used outside the US,
Like that is concerning especially in a climate of like
migration crackdown, right, this data sharing will help them further
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target migrants well.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
And this relates to another executive order for protecting American
communities from criminal aliens. Basically, it targets sanctuary cities. The
Attorney General and the DHS Secretary will publish a list
of sanctuary jurisdictions that obstruct the enforcement of federal immigration
law and federal funds those districts will be suspended or terminated,
and if those districts remain sanctuary districts after officials have
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been notified of their status, then necessary legal remedies and
enforcement measures shall be pursued to quote end these violations.
Section one of this order lists several federal criminal laws
that they say are being violated by these sanctuary districts,
including quote obstruction of justice, un lawfully harboring or hiring
illegal aliens, conspiracy against the United States, and conspiracy to
(25:52):
impede federal law enforcement. Assisting aliens in violating federal immigration
law could also violate the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act unquote,
So they're even repiden rico here for state and local
officials who are trying to protect immigrants in their communities.
There's a few other executive orders I want to mention,
including one that requires professional truck drivers speak English. I
(26:15):
think this is actually just to mask the consequences of
like the tariffs, with with.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
The fact that a lot of truck drivers are losing
their jobs.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yes, yeah, so this is to like hide those layoffs
or trying to force people to get laid off if
they don't speak good enough English, or to like to
create pretext to have these layoffs be justified as we see,
you know, the shipping industry slowly collapse because of the tariffs.
Another order that's just more frustrating, I guess to me
and like worrying long term about the future is quote
advancing Artificial Intelligence Education for American youth. And I'm actually
(26:46):
going to play a video here of Trump's signing this order.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
This next executive order relates to artificial intelligence education. Sir,
You've obviously done a lot in the artificial intelligence space already.
The basic idea of this executive order is to ensure
that we properly train the workforce of the future by
ensuring that school children, young Americans are adequately trained in
(27:12):
AI tools so that they can be competitive in the
economy years from now into the future. As AI becomes
a bigger and bigger.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Deal, that's a big deal. Here's AI is where it
seems to be at. We have literally trillions of dollars
being invested in AI, and there are somebody today, very
smart person said that AI is the way to the future.
I don't know if that's right or not, but certainly,
very smart people are investing in it heavily.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
This clip is super interesting to be because it demonstrates
just how little Trump knows what's really going on. Like
this is the first time he's seen this order. He
has to get explained what it is before he signs
his name on it. They're just handing him these things
and he's just signing papers.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
He is.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
He is not like dictating which things he actually wants
to happen. He's just its handed stuff and there's cameras on.
He's like, hey, this is to help AI with kids,
and you're so smart about AI.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Mister President. He's like, yes, I am. As he signs
his name.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
The actual text disorder is really freaky.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Quote.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
By fostering AI competency, we will equip our students with
the foundational knowledge and skills necessary to adapt and thrive
in an increasing digital society. Early learning and exposure to
AI concepts not only demestifies this powerful technology, but also
sparks curiosity and creativity, preparing students to become active and
responsible participants in the workforce of the future. To achieve
this vision, we must also invest in our educators and
(28:33):
equip them with the tools and knowledge to not only
train students about AI, but also to utilize AI in
their classrooms to improve educational outcomes. Unquote James, how do
you feel about that? As an educator yourself?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Probably fifty percent of my time in the classroom right
now is trying to explain to people where they shouldn't
copy paste the assignment into chat GPT, and like every
year for the past three or four years, we have
dealt with like bots, like students in my class who
are not real people. I've dealt with more and more
(29:08):
and more use of AI. It's from people who I think,
like the folks who are coming through my classroom now,
like many of their like high school years when they
should have been getting good solid like writing tuition work
during COVID lockdowns, right and so like, I'm not entirely
blaming like the folks coming through my class here, but.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
It is it's a fuck situation that's only getting worse.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
It's fucked. It's like I've been educating people for nearly
two decades and like I've never come across anything this bad.
It is fundamentally damaging people's engagement with education and their
ability to learn.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It's giving them permanent brain damage. It is life altering
their ability to think in a way that may never
be recoverable for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, like I don't want to be a boomer.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Like, there's data on this, the AI companies have, Microsoft
has data on this.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It damages people. It needs to be finding good solutions
for that. Writing assignments AI can't write like it's not
that hard before people come into my mentions, right saying like, oh,
you can use this to detect AI. I can detect
it because the assignments it submits a shit. The problem
is that people keep using it, like because it's Roberts
(30:24):
said that they're running out of other options, right.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And they're like really committing to this. The end of
the order directs the Secretary of Education to provide grant
funding to quote improve educational outcomes using AI, including but
not limited to AI based high quality instructional resources, high
impact tutoring, and college and career pathway exploration, advising and
navigation unquote.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, I mean, sadly like these federal and to extend
state level too, like dictats, I guess do impact what
you're supposed to put on your syllabus, right, Like especially
for like high school students, these can genuinely impact act
what what high school teachers are supposed to teach. It
changes a little bit like once you get to the
university level. And I guess we'll we'll see how this goes.
(31:10):
But like this, this genuinely could have a very damaging
impact on and it already has had a damaging impact
on the US education system.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, I have one more thing I want to read here.
This is actually a presidential memorandum, uh, not an executive order,
but this caused to investigate Democrat and grassroots funding platform
Act Blue, a legend quote schemes to launder excessive and
prohibited contributions to political candidates and committees unquote.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Actlue has been the target.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Of conspiracy theories for years, starting with James O'Keeffe and
Elon Musk has recently targeted Act Blue with with bizarre
conspiracy theories on how Act Blue functions and is used
to funnel money to like Antifa and and uh, you know,
George Soros money getting getting moved over to all of
these you know, Tesla Vandal's crazy stuff. But specifically, Trump
(31:59):
is calling the Atturner and Treasury Secretary to quote investigate
allegations regarding the unlawful use of online fundraising platforms to
make straw or dummy contributions or foreign contributions to political
candidates and committees, and to take appropriate action to enforce
the law unquote. I think this whole thing beyond trying
to you know, harm the Democrats' ability to like win
elections in the future as a form of collection meddling
(32:21):
is also just like a spig smoke screen away from
a CNN investigation last year into deceptive practices used by
political fundraising platforms Win Red and Act Blue, which found
that the Republican platform had more than seven times the
fraud complaints sent to the FCC, then Act Blue during
the period of twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four,
with the fundraising platform targeting aging seniors who thought they
(32:43):
were personal friends of the Trump family with propaganda and
emails that tricked them into slanning up for recurring donations
and what they thought was a personal correspondence to President Trump.
It's a really worrying investigation. It'll be linked below. And like,
you know, meanwhile, you have el On Musk literally offering
people millions of dollars to like get people to sign
(33:03):
up to vote and sign petitions, and and yet they're
gonna try to try to investigate, you know, fraud in
Democrat and grassroots fundraising, which I'm sure there is a
little bit of, but according to this investigation by see
an End, so much more fraud on the on the
on the Republican fundraising platform.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
You know, there is actually one Democrat who we can
verifiably claim did a bunch of weird fundraising ship and
did straw donations from foreign donors. And it is Eric Adams,
who is Trump's favorite Democrat. Trump is personally keeping out
of prison. Oh god past.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Anyway, that is the that's the flurry. We're gonna go
on one more break and then come back to close
out on some immigration and tariff updates.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Hell yeah, we're back.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And wait, what's that? Do you hear the dulcet tones
of an angel?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Sorry rocky jazz rockety jazz bot sorry locking.
Speaker 9 (34:18):
Rocking jazz rocky jazz bo.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
So we're gonna get to the rest of the Clash catalog.
We got four years. Yes, yes, I'm really looking for
Secrating the Temple. We're working on a.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Cover of Lost in the Supermarket where there's just nothing
in the supermarket because of the terriffs. It's actually very
easy to find my way around in the supermarket now
because there's nothing on sale.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
All Right, what's actually happening with with the turf tariffs.
I'm gonna I'm just gonna start by reading Trump's incredible
cope about why everything's going to ship. This is Trump,
This is a truth from true social This is Biden's
stock market, not Trumps. I didn't take over until January twentieth.
Terrorists will start kicking in. We soon start kicking in,
(35:07):
and companies are starting to move to the US and
record numbers. Our country will boom, but we have to
get rid of the Biden quote overhang. This will take
a while, has nothing to do with the tariffs all caps,
only that he left us with bad numbers. But when
the boom begins, it will be like no other.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Be patient.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
This is Biden's stock market.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
So the reason he's saying this is that so today
we got a report that the US for the first
quarter suffered the first like actual economic contraction of the
economy since like twenty twenty two, and that basically there
was like one quarter in twenty twenty two, we're contracted.
And then it like basically since like the lockdowns, it's
(35:47):
been expanding, we are probably already in the recession. And
the other thing there was bec us very important to
note here, right is you're seeing a lot of reporting
about this being a contraction, and a lot of the
reporting will talk about how like, yeah, now, this is
because people are like rushing to do their all their
imports right now before the tariff's hit. The thing is, right,
this economic contraction is like before the actual substantive impact
(36:10):
of the tariff's hit. So this is just the beginning
of like the rolling economic collapse, and all of these
surf tariffs are going to generate. There's been a little
bit of movement in the sense that like, okay, so
when I last talked about sort of the declines in
like shipping from China or just shipping in general, it
(36:32):
was mostly like sort of I don't know what you'd
call them, chipping, industry, trade press. This has hit like
the mainstream press now that you know, and some of
these indicators are doing sixty percent import drops from China,
and it looks like China is maybe kind of starting
the preliminary things to figure out how to figure out negotiations,
(36:54):
and that they've been the Chinese government has been going
behind the scenes and talking to a bunch of like
high profile American companies and has been like quietly repealing
some of there one hundred and twenty five percent retaliatory
tariffs in the US on like very specific goods. We'll
see what happens there. There hasn't been more movement than that.
What is also very interesting is that so okay, so
like obviously like a bunch of prices are just increasing
(37:16):
already in places like like Temu and like Shean and
Amazon was going to have like a counter that showed
how much additional money you were spending because of the tariffs.
And they announced that they were going to do this,
and then President Trump like got on the phone with
Jeff Bezos and yelled at him, and then Jeff Bezos
said he wasn't going to do it. But this is
also an interesting thing because we're actually starting to see
(37:37):
cracks between Trump and like people like Besis, like the
tech people who really have been his like closest basis
support right for like for this whole the entire project
in terms of like sect like large scale sectors of capital.
It's been these people who've been backing him, and I
think as as the stuff continues, we're going to continue
to see rifts between them that administration over shit like
(38:01):
this because you know, like people get really really It's
something we've talked about a lot in episodes we've done
on pricing and inflation, is that people get really pissed
off and prices go up, and that's a way to like,
you know, this is a problem for these companies because
this is the way you lose sort of brand loyalty,
and that's like how everything goes to shit. And Trump
has to is doing all these deflections to be like
(38:21):
it's not actually the terrorists that are doing this, because
people are gonna be really pissed about this, and yeah,
I don't know, welcome, Welcome to quarter one of the recession.
This is going to be the best quarter of the
economy for a long time.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, tariff talk, Okay, so it's closed out with immigration update,
I'm just gonna run a few speed run a few
of these and we'll get a bill deeper into some
of them. The New York Times is reporting that once
again the Trump administration is separating has separated a child
from their parents.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Jesus Fucking Christ yep.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
A federal court denied the government's motion to dismiss a
First Amendment challenge to its policy of deport in pro
Palestine anti genocide activists. So that allows the case to
go ahead. Right, So it allows a First Amendment challenge
to be mounted, which is a good thing, right given
that this is their policy right now is a frontal
assault on the First Amendment for people who are not citizens.
(39:17):
In the Abrego Garcia case, both sides agreed to a
seven day pause in the discovery process after the passing
of sealed motions. Then on Tuesday, Tuesday this week, the
DOJ filed another sealed motion. We can speculate, and you
will see people speculating if you go onto the Blue
Skuy or Twitter or whatever. I don't think it's beneficial
(39:40):
to do that in this case. Right what we should
be focusing on is that a man is in a
prison camp who did nothing wrong. It doesn't matter that
justice system is continuing to fail him, because he is
still there and so are hundreds of other people. The
Experimental Quote National Defense Area, New Mexico. So we spoke
(40:01):
last week about the Roosevelt Reservation, right, And they are
starting this militarization of the Roosevelt Reservation with an area
in New Mexico. And we've seen the first charges that
are filed against migrants. According to Washington Post, at least
twenty eight people have been charged or added to their
charges a penalty for violation of security regulations in addition
(40:22):
to their make charge with the entry without inspection right.
Hegxeth visited the area this week, and he talked about
how they were going to post signage in English and
Spanish to indicating that crossing the area would be trespassing
on US military property. Increasing numbers of migrants over the
last few years have not spoken either of those languages.
It doesn't seem to be something they've accounted for here.
(40:45):
The US Attorney for New Mexico allegedly, according to the
Post quote, can't wait to begin charging people who cross.
So that's great. And so it does seem that they
are using this, as we talked about a week or
so ago, as a way to quickly charge and then
deport people who are entering the United States between ports
(41:05):
of entry and other court news. A judge in Colorado
places attentative Training Order on the use of the Alien
Enemies Act there without twenty one days of notice in
a language of person understands advising them of their right
to bring a Habeast challenge. So that means if someone
is going to be removed under the AEA, they have
to get three weeks of notice, and that notice has
(41:27):
to advise them that they have the right to bring
a challenge. And then as opposed to what they're doing
right now, which is deporting people extremely quickly. Right and
this was upheld by the Tenth Circuit, so that's in
place there. It'll be interesting to see how many of
them are able to bring. Still, bringing a Habeast challenges complicated.
It could be expensive and requires a lot of legal time,
and I know most lawyers who work in immigration are overwhelmed. Currently, Yes,
(41:49):
in California, a judge has ruled that CBP can't carry
out warrantless stops and arrests after the ACLU filed a
suit in response to the CBP sector's operation returned to Cender,
which happened in late twenty twenty four. So people, this
is one of the things that people may have already
forgotten about. But in December of twenty twenty four, CBP
started detaining residents, migrants, laborers outside of home depot, a
(42:14):
grocery store, and at road checkpoints up in California Central Valley. Right,
people are thinking, oh, the Central Valley is a very
long way from El Centro, what are they doing up there.
I've included a map of border patrol sectors in the
sources today so people can see. But although the El
Centro sector only spans seventy one miles of linear border,
it goes a lot further north. So that's what they
(42:37):
were doing up there. The judge in this case, who
is US District Court judge Jennifer Thurston, said, quote, you
just can't walk up to people with brown skin and
say give me your papers. There's some very good reporting
on this in cow Matters, which I've also linked in
the sources today. Notably, I looked through the order to day,
(43:00):
the core order, and one of the things we get
is kind of a vision into how Border patrol is
expediting these deportations. Right, So I'm going to quote from
that order here. Quote once Border patrol agents transported the
people they're rested to the El Centro station, they would
quote extract voluntary departure agreements from as many people as
possible without explaining the consequences. And this is all that.
(43:24):
This is the plaintiff's contention, which is aclu Right. So
we've seen this a lot, right, Like we saw it
in the case when they detained a citizen in Tucson
not so long ago. That they're trying to get people
to sign these documents. Sometimes you're not actually in most cases,
I believe you're not actually signing a physical document. You're
signing one of those little pressure pad screens and you
(43:46):
might be given an iPad to read the document on,
but you don't get a chance to look and flick
through the document and then sign it. Left, sign a
physical copy of the document. Right. The injunction that happened
here only applies in the Eastern District of California. The
judge also ordered Border Patrol to record all arrests and
stops and report them within forty days. The government argued
(44:08):
this would be too burdensome, which is odd because they're
already required to do paperwork when they're arrest or stop someone, right,
But that was a rule by the judge. Despite this,
so the our central sector has still been carrying out
operations way north of land border, including recently outside a
home depot in Pomona. So this is CBP, not ICE, right,
people that are familiar with that distinction, but at least
(44:30):
in the Eastern district, they can't be stopping people now
without warrants. That's a good thing from the courts. I
guess those are. I know we've got a long episode today.
Those are the most important immigration things that I've come
up with this week. I'm sure something will happen between
us recording this coming out, but yeah, that's what I've
got for you.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
The last thing that we'll mention is that Mosen Modowi,
the US screen cardholder who was arrested by ICE at
his citizenship interview, has been released from ICE custody as
of April thirtieth, i order of a Vermont judge. This
is really the first piece of good news we've had
in relation to Trump's crackdown on Palestinian protesters and student protests. So, yeah,
(45:15):
Madowi's case will still continue, but you will not be
in ICE custody for the duration of this case.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
And I think we saw in the Mapood Khalil case,
the judge has ordered that New Jersey is a correct
jurisdiction for that case to proceed, So that offers a
possibility of saying that it's essentially the same charge that
both of them have right or the same reasoning for
trying to remove them, so hopefully we will see a
similar result there.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
We'll be following up on both these stories as they progress.
But that does it for us today. Here at it
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He just stolen nuke from Fort Leonard Wood. Oh boy,
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Speaker 4 (02:02):
Now, I guess you know, speaking of the pope, but
Trump himself has announced his running for the pope ship paper.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Why not let him have it.
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Let him have it, We will keep a close eye
on that.
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Let him have it.
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Speaker 2 (02:21):
That's right, that's right, speaking of lib cut No, speaking
of judges, who actually exercised a great deal of personal courage.
There have been two cases in the last week or
so of judges being arrested and charged by the Trump
administration with crimes that are all related to aiding and
debedding undocumented immigrants. Right, I'm going to start with the
case of Hannah Dugan. Hannah Dugan is a Wisconsin She's
(02:46):
a Milwaukee County Circuit judge. She was sworn in in
twenty sixteen. So she's I wanted to say, I wanted
to say she hasn't been doing this very long, but no,
that's literally like nine years, eight or nine years, so
she's been doing this a spell. She's sixty five years old.
And on March twelfth, there was a fellow Flora's Ruiz
is his last name. He's thirty years old, who was
arrested after basically there was a confrontation between him and
(03:10):
his roommates for him playing loud music. He was confronted
for this on March twelfth, and he allegedly fought with
a male roommate in the kitchen. A woman I'm not
sure if she was a roommate or just there tried
to break them up. Two women eventually did. One of
them got elbowed in the arm, allegedly by Flores Ruiz.
One of them was struck while trying to break them up.
(03:32):
It is unclear to the degree to which I'm hearing
a lot of people like I went to the centrist
subreddit to see this, and they're like, well, a serial
abuser of women.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
That's not really what he's being accused of.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
There's like a fight between him and another guy and
it got chaotic. One person elbowed in the arm. I'm sorry,
I don't consider that serious domestic abuse unless it's part
of a pattern. If it's literally he was fighting a
guy and other people swarmed in and some of them
one of them got elbowed. I don't know about this
woman that he's alleged of striking, Like to what degree
did he haul off and punch her or was it again,
(04:03):
there was this chaotic struggle and several people got struck
in the middle of it. Right, this isn't like great,
but this is certainly not. The evidence that has been
provided by the state here in this case is not
that this is a serial domestic abuser of women. It's
a guy who was involved in a chaotic fight with
a roommate and a couple of other people. Right, So
he's being charged with misdemeanor domestic battery as a result
(04:26):
of this. He faces up to nine months in prison
and a ten thousand dollars fine on each count if convicted,
and he has not been convicted and is innocent until
proven guilty. So he went up in front of Judge
Dugan literally a few days ago when we record this,
and while she was in the midst of like having
this like court meeting. Basically, I think this was kind
(04:47):
of like a pre trial deal, right where they're kind
of like setting the ground rules of things. She finds
out that Ice is in the courthouse and that they
are looking for Flores Ruiz, and so she gets really
angry because based on what Wisconsin has stated, like the
actual law in the state, they are not supposed to
be interfering in actual court proceedings. And part of the
(05:08):
reason why is that the courts don't want people to
be dissuaded from dealing with their state level court issues
by the fact that Ice might pick them up.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
It will stop people, It will make people go on
the run. It makes it very difficult to enforce law
and order, and it also like victims, right, Like I've said,
at least if some makes it difficult for victims to
get any sort of justice.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Yes, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
The FBI affidavit describes hers getting visibly angry when Immigration
shows up and she leaves the bench right, and she
retreats to her chambers and I think confers with another judge,
and she and that judge then approach the arrest team
inside the courthouse. The affidavit describes her as having a confrontational,
angry demeanor. She basically keeps saying, show me a fucking warrant, right,
(05:52):
And they don't have a quote unquote real warrant, right,
They do not have a criminal arrest warrant. They have
an administrative warrant, which, based on the actual law, they
do not. She does not have to let them in, right,
That is not the way these things fucking work right
into the courtroom to like interrupt the proceedings on the
strength of this warrant. She tells them to speak with
the chief judge, and she leads them away from the
(06:14):
courtroom right once. She sends them to the chief Judge's office.
This is where the thing that may in fact be
criminal behavior comes in, Dugan goes back into the courtroom
and says something along the lines of weight, come with me,
and then takes Flora's Ruiz and his lawyer through the
jury door into a non public area of the courthouse. Right,
this is not normal behavior. And Ice is alleging that
(06:36):
this is interfering with the duties of federal agents, right,
that she's basically hiding an undocumented immigrant who is being
actively tracked by Ice, right, and that that is a
federal crime. And so that is the situation.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
When it was found out that this was happening, the
FBI and ICE arrested her. She has since bailed out.
She is facing several federal charges, and it's you know,
kind of unclear where this case is going to go.
In terms of her initial behavior. She was absolutely legally
in the right. That administrative warrant did not give Ice
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the right to interrupt the court proceedings. She led them
to the chief judge. That was all entirely within the law.
We're going to learn how the law adjudicates what she
did afterwards, Right, taking these people through, because it's not
illegal to lead people through a back door. It's not
a crime to tell people to leave this way. But
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what may be adjudicated as a crime is that by
doing this, she was helping to aid in a bet
the escape of a fugitive, Right, And that is the
argument that the federal government is making here.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, they didn't leave the building at that point, right,
because in the charging documents, then an ICE agent gets
in the elevator with them, yeah, and decides not to
detain them at that point for some reason. Yeah. Yeah,
I believe that's what happened.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And that part of is why I think they picked
this case because they thought it was close enough on
the edge enough that they could charge a judge. And
I think that is the purpose of this more than
going after this, and that's why they've been going to
these courtses. They have been looking, they've been shopping for
a situation like this, right, in part because one of
the first things that happened is the Wisconsin Supreme Court
suspended Judge Dugan right because she's been charged with two
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federal counts. And this is a normal thing. If a
judge gets accused of federal crimes, you would, in normal
terms want them to be suspended because those crimes are
probably something like they were selling children to a child prison,
which is a thing that happened to Trump. Pardon the
judges responsible, right, you would want those people not trying
cases while this was going on. But what's going to
be done here, and what's already being done here, is
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that judges that are friendly to and sympathetic to undocumented
people and who are not gigantic pieces of shit. And
Judge Dugan comes out of a public defense background. This
is somebody who defended people like the defendant in this
case in her previous life as a lawyer, and I
think acted with tremendous courage in this situation to try
to protect somebody. They are going after her because remember one,
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they want to chill other judges from doing this, and
number two, they can keep her off the bench right
and assume she will be replaced with somebody worse, or
that they will just clog up the system, either way
of which works in their favor. So it will be
unclear how things are going to work out in this case.
I can't tell you legally what's going to happen that
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could go either way. I can tell you, and I
think this is a very important point. It's a point
Jared Yate Sexton, who's a scholar on fascism, made online
about this particular case is we shouldn't give a shit
if she broke the law. She did the right thing.
These people are doing the wrong thing and they need
to be stopped right And that is my overall stance.
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What she did was heroic and we should support her
and fuck these people.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't know, Yeah, yep, yep. I don't have a
complicated take on that.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Solidarity with the Wisconsin judiciary or at least one of them.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
At least one of them.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I have a friend who knows her and says she's
a very nice person, and her actions in this case
certainly would seem to suggest that she's a very nice,
good courageous person.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, and like just to there's conceivably like a person
listening who thinks that, you know, these deportation things are okay.
I know if you are, fuck you, why this isn't
for you? Go away? Yeah, well, yeah, we're not making
it for you.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Put rocks in your pockets, and yeah there's bodies of it.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Whatever the even if you fucking like the deportation for
whatever reason, you should be able to understand that doing
this in court houses is bad if a let's just
take an example, right, like, if a woman who is
undocumented is subject to domestic violence, right, going to testifying
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court could lead to her being deported, Like, this is
fucking bad.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
It could subject her to even more violence from the
state from yeah, wherever she's trying to flee from, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
To being detained with people yeah, yes, if you leave
in the judicial system right like, this stops it functioning.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Also, I want to say this too, if you're purely
coming at this from a perspective of like, well, I'm
still a law and order guy, this also vastly endangers
Wisconsin police because if every undocumented person who gets accused
of a crime knows that, well, the instant I'm accused,
I'm going to be sent to a fucking concentration camp.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Might as well start shooting, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
It's why you don't see very many of these things
happening in states where people regularly carry firearms.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yes, so again, you know that's all I'm saying. That's
not my primary concern, but I'm going to make that point.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, what about the other like weirder case of the
New Mexico case.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
The judge in New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yes, so now back to my fellow New Mexico municipal judge.
Actually think he was a judge, yea county magistrate. Yeah,
so he and I basically the same. So there's this
guy Nancy Cano who's a former police officer, his wife
was a cop. And Joel Cano, who is the Donna
Anna County magistrate judge. These two are really you wouldn't
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have expected what happened from this group. These two are
a cop and a judge.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Couple radical lefty lunatics who.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Are wealthy landlords who own at least eight properties, and
they hire three men to do like you know, contracting work.
And those men included a guy Christian Ortega Lopez twenty
three years old, right, who is a Venezuelan migrant. And
first off, because these are cops or a cop and
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a judge, they like check his papers which say do
not deport right, like he is in the the system,
not subject. This person is not subject to removal, right,
those are on his papers. They check his papers. They
work for these three guys, work for them for a
while and develop a close relationship with the Catos to
the point that they refer to them as the boys,
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and when they get kicked out of their apartment, they
let them live with them, I think for free or
at least for a nominal fee. And as they describe it,
they came to consider them part of the family. And
there's like photo evidence of that, including photo evidence of
them like going to the gun range together as like
a family day at the gun range and shooting. And
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like this guy Artago Lopez like posts pictures of these
people and these like family outings on his Facebook, like
they really do seem to have all been very close. Yeah,
earlier this year, Ice comes for these guys, the boys,
these three dudes who are living on their property, in
a small guest house on the Knos property, and they
allege or Tega Ortiz to have been a member of
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Trinda Agua. And it's based on and I hate most
of the reporting on this because it's all just like
the alleged alleged gang member, alleged Trinda Agua member. And
you look at it as well, he has tattoos and
there's pictures of him with guns, pictures him with guns
that are legally owned by Americans at a gun range.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, he's a twenty three year old guy coming to America,
Like there's a high correlation with those people and people
going to a gun range.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Yeah, nothing illegal with that, but they're like a gang
member photos of guns on his Facebook.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
So these guys get arrested, right, and it's initially and
this is like a month or so ago. It's big scandal.
Cano resigns from his position as a magistrate, right and
gets permanently barred serving as a judge in New Mexico
because these guys had been on his property, even though
again there's not any evidence that I have seen anywhere
that he actually did anything illegal at this point. Now, yeah,
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here's where things get problematic. At this point, the boys
are being you know, the government is treating them as
people who are here illgally, and they are trying to
kick them out, and they are accusing them, these three guys,
of being evolved in Trindagua. At this point, Nancy Kano
provides them with legal assistance in complying with the procedures
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of their pending immigration cases, right, which shouldn't be illegal.
She's literally helping them abide by the law. Right.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
But there's some other things.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
So Joel Cano, this is where this guy turns from
like fucking married a cop, he's a landlord, he smashes
or take a Lopez's phone. He admits, he's admitted that
he's done this. This is not an allegation with a
hammer to stop Ice from getting it.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
So, first off, based.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Illegal, super illegal, super illegal, but not a like a
good person act, I would argue. Secondly, Nancy tries to help,
and this is I think a grayer area. Tries to
help or tag A Lopez delete his Facebook account, and
I don't actually think there's any evidence of him doing
anything illegal on there. I think it's just they knew
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the photos he'd posted of him not breaking any laws
would be used as an argument that he had I
think that that's defensible in court, although they will allege
that it's destruction with the evidence that they may win
on that. Breaking the phone is a you know, that's
going to be a tough one for them. That's just
going to be a tough one for them. Now the
Kno's are currently being charged and they have been released.
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They can't leave the county. There was the prosecutors where
tim they have them separated so that they couldn't talk
about the case. But thank god the judge ruling was, like,
they're married, they have a constitutional right.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
To be together. You don't get to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
But obviously they have to like hand in their passports
any guns they'd had, which they seem to have already done.
The good news is that these are rich people, right
Like the judge even makes a comment that, like, these
are the wealthiest people I've ever had in my courtroom,
so they have the resources to fight this. And again
fucking politics making strange bedfellows. Yep, Yeah, critical support to
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the landlord, judge, cop couple who tried to protect these immigrits.
I don't know, Like whatever they did the right thing,
you know, in my opinion, again not the legal thing,
and I'm not urging you to follow them and breaking
the law, making very clear it is illegal to break
the phone of somebody that you know the police are
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looking for. Because they've been charged with crimes. That is
a crime. I'm just saying. I think what they did
was out of love and brave anyway, That's what I
gotta say.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Speaking of love, I love these ads. All Right, we
are back.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
I am now going to discuss a I believe the
word is a flurry of executive orders that happened the
past week, because there was a ton This was a
huge week for actions through through through executive order. We've
tried to summarize a few of these that have like
or a few orders that have come in the past
few months. But but yeah, definitely the ones that happened
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last week are much more notable, and I will.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Go through them one by one.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
Starting off with an attempt to possibly repeal large sections
of the Civil Rights Act, Trump side in order to
quote eliminate the use of disparate impact liability in all
contexts to the maximum degree possible. Disparate impact is a
legal theory that seeks to address discriminatory policies that, on
their face may appear neutral but actually continue decades old,
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like discrimination and segregation. This order from Trump provokes presidential
approval for Title six antidiscrimination regulations from the sixties and seventies,
and orders all agencies to quote deprioritize enforcement of all
statutes and regulations to the extent that they include disparate
impact liability. The order calls for the Attorney General to
quote initiate appropriate action to repeal or amend the implementing
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regulations for Title six the Civil Rights Act of nineteen
sixty four. Cabinet members were also instructed to review all
pending investigations, civil suits, consent judgments, permanent injunctions, and government
positions that rely on sparate impact theory. That includes Titles
seven and eight of the Civil Rights Act, which protects
equal employment and fair housing. This is kind of part
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of a larger attack on civil rights in general. Obviously
the past few months you've this with like DEI stuff,
But last week the DOJ essentially closed its existing civil
rights office, resigned a dozen senior career attorneys, curbed investigations
into police misconduct and violations of voting and disability rights. Plus,
the Education at Discrimination Division is now being directed to
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protect women's sports, and the Immigrant and Employee Rights Division
was told to investigate companies that quote unlawfully discriminate against
US workers in favor of foreign visa workers unquote. So
that's how they think they're going to be defending civil
rights is by keeping trans girls out of sports and
going after foreign visa workers. Basically, they're trying to turn
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federal civil rights infrastructure against those whom they were meant
to protect in the first place. The next order kind
of outlies something I'm calling cop Nation. It's called quote
strengthening and unleashing America's law enforcement to pursue criminals and
protect innocent civilians. This is kind of like a proto
martial law order. It's what you would do beforehand to
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strengthen police, but not actually declare martial law. It's setting
kind of the path towards that, or at the very
least like strengthening law enforcement to the degree to which
it like butts up against what martial law would be.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
The order calls to.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Quote unleash high impact local police forces, protect and defend
law enforcement officers wrongly accused and abused by state or
local officials, and surge resources to officers in need unquote.
It directs the Attorney General to create a mechanism to
have private sector law firms provide pro bono legal defense
to police officers who quote unjustly incur expenses and liabilities
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for actions taken during the performance of their official duties
to enforce the law unquote. So this tries to make
it harder for police to be held accountable for a
civil and criminal misconduct, basically extending qualified immunity to the
criminal realm. According to Business Insider, quote, allowing previous executive
orders to targeting a number of elite firms. Nine law
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firms have agreed to deals with the President and collectively
agreed to provide nine hundred and forty million in pro
bono legal services to support the President's policies. This order
also calls to use federal resources to increase pay, expand training,
and strengthen legal protections for police officers, as well as
to quote seek enhanced sentences for crimes against law enforcement officers,
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promote investment in the security and capacity of prisons, and
increase the investment in and collection, distribution and uniformity of
crime data across jurisdictions. The Attorney General is directed to
review and remove any previous accountability restrictions placed on to
local or state law enforcement agencies that might unduly impede
the performance of law enforcement functions. And then finally, quote,
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Attorney General and the Secretary of Defense, in consultation with
the Secretary of Homeland Security and the heads of agencies
as appropriate, shall increase the provision of excess military and
national security assets in local jurisdictions to assist state and
local law enforcement and shall determine how military and national
security assets, training, non lethal capabilities, and personnel can most
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effectively be utilized to prevent crime unquote, so moving more
national security resources over to state and local law enforcement,
and directs the AG to go after state and local
officials that struck to criminal law by quote, prohibiting law
enforcement officers from carrying out duties necessary for public safety
or unlawfully engage in discrimination or civil rights violations under
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the guise of DEI do you want to discuss anything
with this you know, anti ACAB executive order here and
what it might actually like do in reality besides you know,
expanding like legal protections for cops.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I mean, I think the worrying ones to me is
that they're very explicitly talking about using military national security
assets like in the US against Americans, and the thing
right now we're doing is like to prevent crime. But
like I think very obviously everyone who's like to disny
imediately gone. Like part of this obviously is about like
trying to defeat any attempt to even moderately reform the police,
But a lot of it is also like, yeah, they're
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expecting giant They're expecting giant protests this summer. Yeah, and
they want to be able to use military assets here.
And what they're doing with this, the Secretary of Defense
is developing a plan to use military assets like presumably
against protesters either that or you know what I mean,
Like cecific thing here is like used to prevent crime,
which is just like the deployment of the US military
against like US Right, that's I think a pretty cut
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in dry. They are developing the apparatus through which they
are going to attempt to deploy the army against the
US citizens in the US.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Well.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
And it's also specifically like empowers like individual police officers
against any like perceived restrictions that like local or state
officials might be putting on them.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Yeah, And I think that's what makes it more super
worrying for me.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
It's like it's like enabling like the police state aspect
of like of the of the executive branch saying hey,
like individual cops, we support you more so than whatever
like local jurisdiction you are like under and if if
the local jurisdictions start to restrict your ability to like
to to do violence, restrict your ability to do your job,
we are going to help you to make sure that
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you have the legal and like physical capacity to continue
your job as you see fit.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
We will throw the high dollar lawyers that we have
threatened into working for us at these states and municipalities.
Speaker 4 (24:25):
Yeah, both to like defend your individual actions and then
also go after the people in charge of you, like
like both of them.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
So it's more like CPD black site shit, like yeah,
Nazi gang shit, like you know them just like shooting people. Yeah,
Like that's the kind of shit.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
The torture, the data sharing, I think is something people
should be aware of. The like that that seemed to
be what I would imagine will be funding for more
federal fusion centers and then equipping them with like homeland
security assets, intelligence assets that are already used outside the US,
Like that is concerning especially in a climate of like
migration crackdown, right, this data sharing will help them further
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target migrants well.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
And this relates to another executive order for protecting American
communities from criminal aliens. Basically, it targets sanctuary cities. The
Attorney General and the DHS Secretary will publish a list
of sanctuary jurisdictions that obstruct the enforcement of federal immigration
law and federal funds those districts will be suspended or terminated,
and if those districts remain sanctuary districts after officials have
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been notified of their status, then necessary legal remedies and
enforcement measures shall be pursued to quote end these violations.
Section one of this order lists several federal criminal laws
that they say are being violated by these sanctuary districts,
including quote obstruction of justice, un lawfully harboring or hiring
illegal aliens, conspiracy against the United States, and conspiracy to
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impede federal law enforcement. Assisting aliens in violating federal immigration
law could also violate the Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organizations Act unquote,
So they're even repiden rico here for state and local
officials who are trying to protect immigrants in their communities.
There's a few other executive orders I want to mention,
including one that requires professional truck drivers speak English. I
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think this is actually just to mask the consequences of
like the tariffs, with with.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
The fact that a lot of truck drivers are losing
their jobs.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
Yes, yeah, so this is to like hide those layoffs
or trying to force people to get laid off if
they don't speak good enough English, or to like to
create pretext to have these layoffs be justified as we see,
you know, the shipping industry slowly collapse because of the tariffs.
Another order that's just more frustrating, I guess to me
and like worrying long term about the future is quote
advancing Artificial Intelligence Education for American youth. And I'm actually
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going to play a video here of Trump's signing this order.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
This next executive order relates to artificial intelligence education. Sir,
You've obviously done a lot in the artificial intelligence space already.
The basic idea of this executive order is to ensure
that we properly train the workforce of the future by
ensuring that school children, young Americans are adequately trained in
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AI tools so that they can be competitive in the
economy years from now into the future. As AI becomes
a bigger and bigger.
Speaker 8 (27:19):
Deal, that's a big deal. Here's AI is where it
seems to be at. We have literally trillions of dollars
being invested in AI, and there are somebody today, very
smart person said that AI is the way to the future.
I don't know if that's right or not, but certainly,
very smart people are investing in it heavily.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
This clip is super interesting to be because it demonstrates
just how little Trump knows what's really going on. Like
this is the first time he's seen this order. He
has to get explained what it is before he signs
his name on it. They're just handing him these things
and he's just signing papers.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
He is.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
He is not like dictating which things he actually wants
to happen. He's just its handed stuff and there's cameras on.
He's like, hey, this is to help AI with kids,
and you're so smart about AI.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Mister President. He's like, yes, I am. As he signs
his name.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
The actual text disorder is really freaky.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Quote.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
By fostering AI competency, we will equip our students with
the foundational knowledge and skills necessary to adapt and thrive
in an increasing digital society. Early learning and exposure to
AI concepts not only demestifies this powerful technology, but also
sparks curiosity and creativity, preparing students to become active and
responsible participants in the workforce of the future. To achieve
this vision, we must also invest in our educators and
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equip them with the tools and knowledge to not only
train students about AI, but also to utilize AI in
their classrooms to improve educational outcomes. Unquote James, how do
you feel about that? As an educator yourself?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Probably fifty percent of my time in the classroom right
now is trying to explain to people where they shouldn't
copy paste the assignment into chat GPT, and like every
year for the past three or four years, we have
dealt with like bots, like students in my class who
are not real people. I've dealt with more and more
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and more use of AI. It's from people who I think,
like the folks who are coming through my classroom now,
like many of their like high school years when they
should have been getting good solid like writing tuition work
during COVID lockdowns, right and so like, I'm not entirely
blaming like the folks coming through my class here, but.
Speaker 4 (29:29):
It is it's a fuck situation that's only getting worse.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
It's fucked. It's like I've been educating people for nearly
two decades and like I've never come across anything this bad.
It is fundamentally damaging people's engagement with education and their
ability to learn.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It's giving them permanent brain damage. It is life altering
their ability to think in a way that may never
be recoverable for a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, like I don't want to be a boomer.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Like, there's data on this, the AI companies have, Microsoft
has data on this.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
It damages people. It needs to be finding good solutions
for that. Writing assignments AI can't write like it's not
that hard before people come into my mentions, right saying like, oh,
you can use this to detect AI. I can detect
it because the assignments it submits a shit. The problem
is that people keep using it, like because it's Roberts
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said that they're running out of other options, right.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
And they're like really committing to this. The end of
the order directs the Secretary of Education to provide grant
funding to quote improve educational outcomes using AI, including but
not limited to AI based high quality instructional resources, high
impact tutoring, and college and career pathway exploration, advising and
navigation unquote.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, I mean, sadly like these federal and to extend
state level too, like dictats, I guess do impact what
you're supposed to put on your syllabus, right, Like especially
for like high school students, these can genuinely impact act
what what high school teachers are supposed to teach. It
changes a little bit like once you get to the
university level. And I guess we'll we'll see how this goes.
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But like this, this genuinely could have a very damaging
impact on and it already has had a damaging impact
on the US education system.
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, I have one more thing I want to read here.
This is actually a presidential memorandum, uh, not an executive order,
but this caused to investigate Democrat and grassroots funding platform
Act Blue, a legend quote schemes to launder excessive and
prohibited contributions to political candidates and committees unquote.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Actlue has been the target.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Of conspiracy theories for years, starting with James O'Keeffe and
Elon Musk has recently targeted Act Blue with with bizarre
conspiracy theories on how Act Blue functions and is used
to funnel money to like Antifa and and uh, you know,
George Soros money getting getting moved over to all of
these you know, Tesla Vandal's crazy stuff. But specifically, Trump
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is calling the Atturner and Treasury Secretary to quote investigate
allegations regarding the unlawful use of online fundraising platforms to
make straw or dummy contributions or foreign contributions to political
candidates and committees, and to take appropriate action to enforce
the law unquote. I think this whole thing beyond trying
to you know, harm the Democrats' ability to like win
elections in the future as a form of collection meddling
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is also just like a spig smoke screen away from
a CNN investigation last year into deceptive practices used by
political fundraising platforms Win Red and Act Blue, which found
that the Republican platform had more than seven times the
fraud complaints sent to the FCC, then Act Blue during
the period of twenty twenty two to twenty twenty four,
with the fundraising platform targeting aging seniors who thought they
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were personal friends of the Trump family with propaganda and
emails that tricked them into slanning up for recurring donations
and what they thought was a personal correspondence to President Trump.
It's a really worrying investigation. It'll be linked below. And like,
you know, meanwhile, you have el On Musk literally offering
people millions of dollars to like get people to sign
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up to vote and sign petitions, and and yet they're
gonna try to try to investigate, you know, fraud in
Democrat and grassroots fundraising, which I'm sure there is a
little bit of, but according to this investigation by see
an End, so much more fraud on the on the
on the Republican fundraising platform.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
You know, there is actually one Democrat who we can
verifiably claim did a bunch of weird fundraising ship and
did straw donations from foreign donors. And it is Eric Adams,
who is Trump's favorite Democrat. Trump is personally keeping out
of prison. Oh god past.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Anyway, that is the that's the flurry. We're gonna go
on one more break and then come back to close
out on some immigration and tariff updates.
Speaker 9 (33:48):
Hell yeah, we're back.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
And wait, what's that? Do you hear the dulcet tones
of an angel?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
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Speaker 9 (34:18):
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Speaker 1 (34:23):
So we're gonna get to the rest of the Clash catalog.
We got four years. Yes, yes, I'm really looking for
Secrating the Temple. We're working on a.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Cover of Lost in the Supermarket where there's just nothing
in the supermarket because of the terriffs. It's actually very
easy to find my way around in the supermarket now
because there's nothing on sale.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
All Right, what's actually happening with with the turf tariffs.
I'm gonna I'm just gonna start by reading Trump's incredible
cope about why everything's going to ship. This is Trump,
This is a truth from true social This is Biden's
stock market, not Trumps. I didn't take over until January twentieth.
Terrorists will start kicking in. We soon start kicking in,
(35:07):
and companies are starting to move to the US and
record numbers. Our country will boom, but we have to
get rid of the Biden quote overhang. This will take
a while, has nothing to do with the tariffs all caps,
only that he left us with bad numbers. But when
the boom begins, it will be like no other.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Be patient.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
This is Biden's stock market.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (35:27):
So the reason he's saying this is that so today
we got a report that the US for the first
quarter suffered the first like actual economic contraction of the
economy since like twenty twenty two, and that basically there
was like one quarter in twenty twenty two, we're contracted.
And then it like basically since like the lockdowns, it's
(35:47):
been expanding, we are probably already in the recession. And
the other thing there was bec us very important to
note here, right is you're seeing a lot of reporting
about this being a contraction, and a lot of the
reporting will talk about how like, yeah, now, this is
because people are like rushing to do their all their
imports right now before the tariff's hit. The thing is, right,
this economic contraction is like before the actual substantive impact
(36:10):
of the tariff's hit. So this is just the beginning
of like the rolling economic collapse, and all of these
surf tariffs are going to generate. There's been a little
bit of movement in the sense that like, okay, so
when I last talked about sort of the declines in
like shipping from China or just shipping in general, it
(36:32):
was mostly like sort of I don't know what you'd
call them, chipping, industry, trade press. This has hit like
the mainstream press now that you know, and some of
these indicators are doing sixty percent import drops from China,
and it looks like China is maybe kind of starting
the preliminary things to figure out how to figure out negotiations,
(36:54):
and that they've been the Chinese government has been going
behind the scenes and talking to a bunch of like
high profile American companies and has been like quietly repealing
some of there one hundred and twenty five percent retaliatory
tariffs in the US on like very specific goods. We'll
see what happens there. There hasn't been more movement than that.
What is also very interesting is that so okay, so
like obviously like a bunch of prices are just increasing
(37:16):
already in places like like Temu and like Shean and
Amazon was going to have like a counter that showed
how much additional money you were spending because of the tariffs.
And they announced that they were going to do this,
and then President Trump like got on the phone with
Jeff Bezos and yelled at him, and then Jeff Bezos
said he wasn't going to do it. But this is
also an interesting thing because we're actually starting to see
(37:37):
cracks between Trump and like people like Besis, like the
tech people who really have been his like closest basis
support right for like for this whole the entire project
in terms of like sect like large scale sectors of capital.
It's been these people who've been backing him, and I
think as as the stuff continues, we're going to continue
to see rifts between them that administration over shit like
(38:01):
this because you know, like people get really really It's
something we've talked about a lot in episodes we've done
on pricing and inflation, is that people get really pissed
off and prices go up, and that's a way to like,
you know, this is a problem for these companies because
this is the way you lose sort of brand loyalty,
and that's like how everything goes to shit. And Trump
has to is doing all these deflections to be like
(38:21):
it's not actually the terrorists that are doing this, because
people are gonna be really pissed about this, and yeah,
I don't know, welcome, Welcome to quarter one of the recession.
This is going to be the best quarter of the
economy for a long time.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Yeah, tariff talk, Okay, so it's closed out with immigration update,
I'm just gonna run a few speed run a few
of these and we'll get a bill deeper into some
of them. The New York Times is reporting that once
again the Trump administration is separating has separated a child
from their parents.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Jesus Fucking Christ yep.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
A federal court denied the government's motion to dismiss a
First Amendment challenge to its policy of deport in pro
Palestine anti genocide activists. So that allows the case to
go ahead. Right, So it allows a First Amendment challenge
to be mounted, which is a good thing, right given
that this is their policy right now is a frontal
assault on the First Amendment for people who are not citizens.
(39:17):
In the Abrego Garcia case, both sides agreed to a
seven day pause in the discovery process after the passing
of sealed motions. Then on Tuesday, Tuesday this week, the
DOJ filed another sealed motion. We can speculate, and you
will see people speculating if you go onto the Blue
Skuy or Twitter or whatever. I don't think it's beneficial
(39:40):
to do that in this case. Right what we should
be focusing on is that a man is in a
prison camp who did nothing wrong. It doesn't matter that
justice system is continuing to fail him, because he is
still there and so are hundreds of other people. The
Experimental Quote National Defense Area, New Mexico. So we spoke
(40:01):
last week about the Roosevelt Reservation, right, And they are
starting this militarization of the Roosevelt Reservation with an area
in New Mexico. And we've seen the first charges that
are filed against migrants. According to Washington Post, at least
twenty eight people have been charged or added to their
charges a penalty for violation of security regulations in addition
(40:22):
to their make charge with the entry without inspection right.
Hegxeth visited the area this week, and he talked about
how they were going to post signage in English and
Spanish to indicating that crossing the area would be trespassing
on US military property. Increasing numbers of migrants over the
last few years have not spoken either of those languages.
It doesn't seem to be something they've accounted for here.
(40:45):
The US Attorney for New Mexico allegedly, according to the
Post quote, can't wait to begin charging people who cross.
So that's great. And so it does seem that they
are using this, as we talked about a week or
so ago, as a way to quickly charge and then
deport people who are entering the United States between ports
(41:05):
of entry and other court news. A judge in Colorado
places attentative Training Order on the use of the Alien
Enemies Act there without twenty one days of notice in
a language of person understands advising them of their right
to bring a Habeast challenge. So that means if someone
is going to be removed under the AEA, they have
to get three weeks of notice, and that notice has
(41:27):
to advise them that they have the right to bring
a challenge. And then as opposed to what they're doing
right now, which is deporting people extremely quickly. Right and
this was upheld by the Tenth Circuit, so that's in
place there. It'll be interesting to see how many of
them are able to bring. Still, bringing a Habeast challenges complicated.
It could be expensive and requires a lot of legal time,
and I know most lawyers who work in immigration are overwhelmed. Currently, Yes,
(41:49):
in California, a judge has ruled that CBP can't carry
out warrantless stops and arrests after the ACLU filed a
suit in response to the CBP sector's operation returned to Cender,
which happened in late twenty twenty four. So people, this
is one of the things that people may have already
forgotten about. But in December of twenty twenty four, CBP
started detaining residents, migrants, laborers outside of home depot, a
(42:14):
grocery store, and at road checkpoints up in California Central Valley. Right,
people are thinking, oh, the Central Valley is a very
long way from El Centro, what are they doing up there.
I've included a map of border patrol sectors in the
sources today so people can see. But although the El
Centro sector only spans seventy one miles of linear border,
it goes a lot further north. So that's what they
(42:37):
were doing up there. The judge in this case, who
is US District Court judge Jennifer Thurston, said, quote, you
just can't walk up to people with brown skin and
say give me your papers. There's some very good reporting
on this in cow Matters, which I've also linked in
the sources today. Notably, I looked through the order to day,
(43:00):
the core order, and one of the things we get
is kind of a vision into how Border patrol is
expediting these deportations. Right, So I'm going to quote from
that order here. Quote once Border patrol agents transported the
people they're rested to the El Centro station, they would
quote extract voluntary departure agreements from as many people as
possible without explaining the consequences. And this is all that.
(43:24):
This is the plaintiff's contention, which is aclu Right. So
we've seen this a lot, right, Like we saw it
in the case when they detained a citizen in Tucson
not so long ago. That they're trying to get people
to sign these documents. Sometimes you're not actually in most cases,
I believe you're not actually signing a physical document. You're
signing one of those little pressure pad screens and you
(43:46):
might be given an iPad to read the document on,
but you don't get a chance to look and flick
through the document and then sign it. Left, sign a
physical copy of the document. Right. The injunction that happened
here only applies in the Eastern District of California. The
judge also ordered Border Patrol to record all arrests and
stops and report them within forty days. The government argued
(44:08):
this would be too burdensome, which is odd because they're
already required to do paperwork when they're arrest or stop someone, right,
But that was a rule by the judge. Despite this,
so the our central sector has still been carrying out
operations way north of land border, including recently outside a
home depot in Pomona. So this is CBP, not ICE, right,
people that are familiar with that distinction, but at least
(44:30):
in the Eastern district, they can't be stopping people now
without warrants. That's a good thing from the courts. I
guess those are. I know we've got a long episode today.
Those are the most important immigration things that I've come
up with this week. I'm sure something will happen between
us recording this coming out, but yeah, that's what I've
got for you.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
The last thing that we'll mention is that Mosen Modowi,
the US screen cardholder who was arrested by ICE at
his citizenship interview, has been released from ICE custody as
of April thirtieth, i order of a Vermont judge. This
is really the first piece of good news we've had
in relation to Trump's crackdown on Palestinian protesters and student protests. So, yeah,
(45:15):
Madowi's case will still continue, but you will not be
in ICE custody for the duration of this case.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
And I think we saw in the Mapood Khalil case,
the judge has ordered that New Jersey is a correct
jurisdiction for that case to proceed, So that offers a
possibility of saying that it's essentially the same charge that
both of them have right or the same reasoning for
trying to remove them, so hopefully we will see a
similar result there.
Speaker 4 (45:42):
We'll be following up on both these stories as they progress.
But that does it for us today. Here at it
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Speaker 1 (45:51):
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