March 11, 2026 • 34 mins
This international brand of teas and other beverages (including instant soups) all got its start with one Scottish grocer. Anney and Lauren dip into the history and businesses behind Lipton.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Hello, and welcome to Saber Protection of iHeartRadio. I'm Annie Reese.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And I'm Lauren Vocal Bomb, and today we have an
episode for you about Lipton.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yes, the company, the.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, the brand, the company. Sure, yeah, there are a
lot of things.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
They are and we're going to try our best to
untangle them. Uh huh yep. Not a sponsor, Nope, nope.
Was there any particular reason this was on your mind? Lauren?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Uh No. I think at some point I had like
seen one of those big corporate organization charts of how
all of the giant brands are interconnected, and Lipton was
one that stood out at me because I was like, yeah,
like long running tea and also.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Soup ice creaming. Mi'm to outherstand at one point.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, let's write that one down. Sure and uh And
I was like, I don't know, yeah, let's There was
sort of like a like a drink slot up in
our interest category for this week, and I was like, yeah,
sure lipt In Yeah, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't I feel like I don't have much experience
with Lipten. Actually no, no, And they do a lot
of stuff. They do a lot more stuff than I thought.
H But even so, I was like, no.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Uh yeah, yeah, I for sure I grew up with
Lipton tea being a staple of various households that I
was hanging out in, and definitely towards like college. Just
after college, I consumed a number a cup of soups
(01:58):
for survival purposes and also sometimes used the seasoning or
the soup packets as a seasoning for like, like before
I like built out my like spice collection to season
like I don't know if I was making like tuna
salad or something like that just to you know, yeah,
nicees a little packet of flavor.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I feel like college dining in the creative ways you
go about that, I personally am really interested in. So listeners,
if you have any hacks that were like your college go.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh yeah yeah, the more terrifying the better.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh absolutely absolutely Well. For past episodes, you can see
our general episode we did on Tea Tea Time, Tea Bags,
Earl Gray Twinings.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
We've definitely not done an episode on Twinings least wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I guess we did talk.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
About them in I believe our Earl Gray episode. They're
actually like the key rival of Lipton, especially in some markets.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So oh dear, what have I done?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Different kind of heat, different kind of rivalry. Yeah, we
have done an episode on Jasmine Tea. You can check
that one out.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, and I guess try for sure?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Mm hmm. Well, I suppose that does bring us to
our question. Sure, Lipton, what is it?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well? Lipton is a giant international company that produces and
sells tea and other like precursors to drinks, both under
the Lipten brand and a number of other brands. There
are also Lipton branded products produced and sold by other companies. Now,
(04:01):
because this is global scale, not all of these labels
and products are available everywhere. And also like to focus
in for today on the Lipten brand and not the
other brands that they own, but also the other companies
(04:21):
that own them. The Lipten brand basically they sell machine
cut teas and herbal blends in a bunch of formats.
You've got loose teas, cacups, and tea bags. The tea
bags come in both individual and multi serving sizes. You've
got drink mixes like just add water style in both
powders and liquid concentrates, and the brand has some prepared
(04:44):
bottled beverages which are shelf stable but meant to be
consumed chilled. Some of their other products are specified for
cold preparation and consumption. And yeah, they also do instant
soup mixes which are kind of a savory average.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I cannot speak for the brand everywhere, but the vibe
here in the US, in my estimation, is that Lipton
is like dependable, inexpensive, and basic. It's like if a
pack of sabertoothed tigers all wearing top hats and monocles
could sell you tea. Where did they get the top
(05:28):
hats and monocles? Why are they grinning like that? Do
not ask questions? Drink your tea.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm scared, laurd you frightened me.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I yet again not a sponsor, probably won't be after that.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I like the imagery, though, somebody should. Somebody should capture
that in some artistic form.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Oh if anyone listening is visually or stick, please oh,
because we are not. But okay, So in the US,
the Lipten brand is mostly known for just straight black tea,
and it's what I associate with, like what my grandmother
(06:19):
would use to make iced tea. Yeah, just like good
strong black tea that's anecdotal. Your mileage may vary. Please
write in here. In the States. Their current product lineup
includes regular old tea, bags of black tea, regular and
(06:40):
decaffeinated and organic, plus Earl Gray and English Breakfast plus
green tea in regular and decalf than flavored with lemon
or peach or honey ginger, plus herbal blends in flavors
like camameal, mint, peach, very high biscus, and lemon ginger.
They've also got a line of pyramid shaped tea bags
(07:01):
with black tea in three flavors lemon, vanilla, caramel, and peach.
These are meant to be more like visual and fancy.
They also do sell large format tea bags for making
pictures of iced tea. Those come in regular, decaf and
sweet pre sweetened. They've also got large format bags of
(07:22):
tea meant to be cold. Brood didn't look into how
those work. Furthermore, they have powdered and liquid instant mixes
for iced tea. The powders are brood black tea that's
been dehydrated. The liquids are concentrates. Both of these come
in a variety of other flavorings than just plain black
tea like lemon, peach, and raspberry. Some are sweetened, some
(07:46):
with sugar substitutes. The liquid concentrate does also come in
green tea with lemonade flavor. I'm not sure why, yeah,
lemonade and not green tea with lemon sweetened, but here
we are. The sweet black versions are labeled Southern sweet,
which cracks me up.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yep, it's a thing.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It is a thing. I learned that their CA cups
are specifically for making iced teas, like they're meant to
be brood hot but over ice.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, I don't know CA cups being if you're unfamiliar
that those things that Kirig machines take, yeah and yeah,
they're ready to drink. Products are mostly sweetened and flavored.
They come in bases of green, black or white tea
and have flavorings like raspberry, citrus, or peach. They also
do a fusions line that's like iced tea mixed with
lemonade and other fruit flavors like pineapple, banngo. It was
(08:42):
a little difficult for me to track down what products
the brand cells in other countries, but for example, in France,
it seems like they focus on the flavored blends in
the fancy pyramid bags, like green Tea with orange flour
and mandarin orange, or green Tea with intense mint. I'm
not sure what the intense really refers to, but that's okay,
(09:07):
or green Tea with hibiscus and raspberry. They also have
black Tea with red fruits or with peach and mango.
Their Dutch line includes a lot of ready to drink options,
including sparkling iced teas, which is not a product I'd
come across before, but I'm like, why wouldn't you sparkle that? Sure? Absolutely, yeah,
(09:27):
sparkle anything in China because the tea at home market
is really about loose leaf tea. Lipped and sells a
lot of instant iced tea mix and milk tea mix
through fast food restaurants and then a lot of tea
bags to offices. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Interesting, mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
The brand is organized under the larger company lipped In
Teas and Infusions, which is headquartered in the Netherlands and
form few years back when Unilever sold off and or
spun off their tea businesses. Lipt In Teas and Infusions
also owns a lot of other tea companies like pg Tips,
(10:11):
Tea Two, Tazo, Puka, Red Rose, Lions, and Brooke Bond,
among other brands. Unilever did retain ownership through all that
of a few of their tea brands in certain instances
and markets, like they still control the ready to drink
Lipton iced tea beverages, so Uniliver also does still own
(10:36):
the instant soup side of lipt In, which produces just
add water soups in these little single serving packets in
flavors like chicken noodle, cream of chicken, and spring vegetable.
A bunch of their flavors are labeled as a soup
and dip mixes that are meant to be yeah, mixed
with something like sour cream to make an easy snack
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dip for potato chips or whatever. Flavors like beefy onion, savory,
urban garlic, and vegetable what vegetable, I don't know. I
didn't all of the all of the photos on their
website were broken, and I didn't click through to look
at the ingredients. From what I remember, an air of mystery.
(11:20):
From what I remember, it's like carrot, onion and bell pepper.
I could be wrong. These, Uh, these generally involve like
a dehydrated broth, maybe a little chunks of chicken, little
chunks of vege, and some herbs and spices.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Very very interesting. Okay, well what about the nutrition do.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Not eat companies or brands? No, nope, nope. It would
be very difficult to fit in your mouth in a
single bite. Not sure how you would tackle that.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah. Just and also just a bunch of questions.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
We don't even know what vegetable is, right, We don't
have some numbers for you. We do so this first
one isn't really a number, but the US packaging for
Lipton's Plain Old Black tea claims that it is America's
favorite tea and I buy that. I buy that. Lipton
(12:25):
Te's and Infusions is the largest quote unquote single buyer
of tea in the world. They purchase some four percent
of the world's tea crop every year, much of it
at auction. They source that from around a million farmers
in thirty countries, and they keep an annual list of
(12:47):
all of them. They say it's all traceable. About two
thirds of that tea comes from Africa, and the company
claims that two hundred and fifty million people consume their
products every day.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
M again, like I buy that because as of twenty twenty,
they controlled some ten percent of the global market for
tea at that time, worth around three point six billion dollars.
Who Okay, from what I understand, their revenue is down
(13:27):
a little bit from then. But they are doing just fine.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yes they are, indeed, and in fact they have pretty
much throughout their history done pretty good, pretty well, for they.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Have, yes, and we are going to get into that history.
But first we're going to get into a quick break
forward from our sponsors.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I'm back, Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. Okay, So
CRT episode for more history. But T is quite old,
that's what we'll say. When it comes to Lipton, there
is one key figure at the beginning, and that is
Thomas Lipton. Thomas Lipton was born in Glasgow, Scotland in
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the eighteen hundreds. A lot of his early history is lost,
but we do know that his father was an Irish
grocer and that in eighteen seventy one Thomas founded a
chain of grocery stores in Glasgow. I also read somewhere
that he just took over his father's store and then
made more, but in either case, he started his own
(14:44):
thing in groceries. Yeah. Yes, when he was quite young.
He spent a few years in the US after the
Civil War, taking a series of odd jobs and a
handful of places. There's a lot of stories that sound
kind of like miss about his time in the US
two sneaking away onto boats, getting into knife fights, stuff
(15:07):
like that.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Sorry, knife fights are not funny, but yeah, based on
how like respectable, A lot of the stuff I read
about him was painting him as an adult. That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yes, I agree, That's why I think there's some level
of myth to some of things. Yeah, Somewhere along the
way he allegedly picked up on brightly lit grocery stores
with clearly displayed items and took that mindset with him
back to Glasgow for his own stores, and this redesign worked.
(15:41):
These stores were apparently quite successful because at the age
of forty he was well off. I read he opened
about two hundred of them.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah. However, he had aspirations of becoming even more successful,
and he saw an opportunity through ta and especially at
first tea in the UK. By the seventeenth century, tea
was incredibly popular throughout the UK, but it was still
a bit of a luxury for the working class. Shop
sold loose leaf tea at a price that was out
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of reach for many, so it was kind of a
special item that you would get. Lipton wanted to come
up with a way to provide something more affordable that
would also turn him a profit. His plan to do
this primarily relied on cutting out the tea brokers and
growing tea himself. This meant he needed a sizable amount
(16:34):
of land, and it seems like he was a paranoid
fellow because to throw off potential competitors, he masked his
trip to modern day Sri Lanka, which was then called Ceylon,
as a vacation to Australia, so no one would know
what he was up to. This was a strategic decision.
(16:57):
Ceylon was one of the world's number one producers of
coffee in eighteen sixties, but a fungus came and wiped
out most of their crop of their coffee crop, so
a lot of producers turned to tea. Lipton arrived in
eighteen ninety when Ceylon was already producing an annual forty
five million pounds of tea. Still, the economic impact of
(17:18):
the collapse of the coffee industry lingered and the land
was cheap. Lipton took advantage of the situation, eventually purchasing
a dozen of states for tea production and putting in
machinery that would amp up the volume that could be
churned out. On top of that, he standardized the amounts
sold in packets to a quarter, half or full pound
(17:41):
as opposed to how amounts were previously measured out. It
was more convenient, and the public seemed to trust the
idea more that they weren't getting cheated. It was standardized
wherever people purchased it, and the cost was pretty much
half of what the price of tea in the UK
had been. The packets also featured advertising that read direct
(18:03):
from tea Garden to tea pot, which I love. The
whole thing was successful pretty quickly, and he did a
lot of showy advertising stunts that in both pigs and bagpipes,
big wheels of geese. He really got up to some stuff.
You can look it up, but the yeah, the whole
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thing was so successful that Lipton branched out from selling
Limpton Tea and only his own stores to other stores,
and not just in the UK. When he attended the
eighteen ninety three Chicago World's Fair. He sold over a
million packets of tea there, and not long after that,
and thanks to some effective marketing campaigns, Lipton t was
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popular not only in the UK, but in the US
as well. The popularity reached such levels that Lipton's own
estates as tea estates, couldn't keep up with demand. And
who did he turn to? The tea brokers he'd been
trying to cut out. Eventually he was only producing about
(19:08):
a tenth of the tea output for what he was selling.
And that meant that the advertising, or at least the
public perception that had been mostly solidified by that point
that the tea was, you know, from garden to pot
from Ceylon, it was untrue at this point, oh mine.
(19:29):
Stepping back a bit, Lipton was allegedly actively looking at
purchasing land for tea in South Carolina in eighteen ninety nine.
In nineteen sixty three, the Lipton Tea Company did fulfill
this pursuit, planting tea on an island off of South Carolina.
I want to bring that up because I've always wanted
to go visit that island. I think we like we
(19:52):
pitched the idea forever ago when we were still traveling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway.
Queen Victoria Thomas Lipton in eighteen ninety eight and he
died in nineteen thirty one, and he had never married
and had no children. Post World War Two, Lipton really
leaned into exporting their product globally, and this sometimes involved
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catering to the taste of the particular market they were targeting,
so like offering a chai in India something like that.
Unilever kind of did a multi stage acquisition of Lipten
beginning in nineteen forty six, and it continued over the
span of twenty six years after that, Low and slow,
(20:37):
Yeah and confusing, confusing for a lowly podcast host. By
the nineteen fifties, Lipton was selling their products and tea
bags with brewing instructions included. This is also when they
started offering Lipton soup mixes and promoting a French onion
dip using their French Onion soup mix. Soon after, Lipton
(20:58):
introduced their iced tea mix to the United States, and
in nineteen seventy one, Unilever purchasely Lipton International brand like
for Real for Real, for Real, for real, and they
worked in partnership with Pepsi Co. And started producing bottles
of Lipton ready to drink tea in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Interestingly to me, Lipton only entered the Chinese consumer market
in nineteen ninety two, though they did pretty quickly rise
to dominate the tea bag market there.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And then in twenty eleven, Peta reported that Lipton had
been conducting experiments on animals to test the health claims
of their products. Basically, they were inducing health conditions in
animals and then giving them the tea to see if
it lessened those conditions. Yes. In response to that whole thing,
(21:52):
Peda threatened an international quote Lipton slash PG tips Cruel
Tea Tea campaign, and Unilever received forty thousand appeals. After that,
the whole thing seemingly worked, because after these reports, pretty
soon after Unilever announced that they would cease animal testing
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for their tea products, the company briefly sold a sort
of cuig competitor in twenty fifteen, called to by Lipton.
It didn't stick around for long though, however. Lipton pods
that are combatible with qureg machines are now available.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
In twenty twenty, Unilever consolidated it's thirty four T brands
into a division that they called Ekatera Ekaterra, I'm not sure.
It doesn't really matter, because they then sold it off
in an auction to this European private equity firm called
CVC Capital Partners in twenty twenty two for a cool
(22:54):
six point eight billion dollars. Apparently, sales of Unilever's core
product black tea had been declining for the previous few years.
There was a lot of industry buzz about why exactly
this consolidation and sale happened, but anyway, CBC Capital Partners
renamed the business Lipton Teas and Infusions.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And then in twenty twenty three, Lipton's hard iced Tea
hit the shelves available in full flavors.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Okay, yeah, h stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The Lipten T's and Infusions company has been funding a
bunch of research into i'd say like future proofing their business.
Starting in twenty twenty four, they announced like new and
or continuing partnerships with a few universities and like government
and industry organizations in both the UK and Kenya to
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develop projects that look at like education and efficiency and
technology in tea farming to like improve crap management and
reduce greenhouse gas emissions and pesticide use, and develop more
drought resistant plants, important as climate change continues to affect
the farms in this region and many other regions that
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grow tea. The company is also doing work in like
tea processing and warehousing and other logistics. It's it's like
really ultimately self serving, but I do think that they
are trying to be more environmentally and socially responsible for
whatever reason, and I don't know, you know, I'll take it.
(24:38):
They've also sold a bunch of their East African tea
estates to the Sri Lankan holding firm called Brown's Investments,
along with an agreement to a purchase the resulting t
that b sets a bunch of social, environmental and quality
standards and then more on like the human interest side.
I guess one long abandoned research project from Lipton is
(25:03):
coming to New Fruition right now. So back in the
nineteen sixties, Lipton did some work with the University of
California's Kearney Agricultural Research and Extension Center to see how
tea might grow in California. The project was closed down
in the nineteen eighties, a few tea plants were kept
(25:23):
around basically as ornamentals until in the twenty teens a
few researchers decided to look into tea farming in that
region again. And yeah, if you happen to be in
the central California area and are interested in growing tea.
They're having their first Tea Day event on March nineteenth
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of this year, twenty twenty six, just just a little
while from now as we record this, which will include
a tour of their tea estate, presentations on like research
production in marketing, and a sensory tasting sort of event
because they're their first harvest is set for April of
this year.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's cool. Yeah, listeners, if anybody goes, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah yeah. And apparently I think we talked a little
bit about this in our Tea episode. Gosh, that was
a long time ago, but uh yeah, for like the
California Ish climate region. Uh, people do recommend tea plants
as ornamentals. They're pretty and you can pick the leaves
and make deed.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Sounds like a win win, you know, h m hmm. Well,
there was a lot more we could have gone into
to be honest with you. But I feel like this
is a pretty yeah, comprehensive.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, this was streamlined as much as I think we
could well, you know, yeah, yeah, still getting into a
little bit of the yeah, a little bit of the details.
Definitely company start splitting off. It became oh my goodness. Yeah,
And I mean like, we cannot cover PG Tips in
the same episode that we cover lipt In. That's wild.
(27:11):
That's way too many. Yes, that would be way too Yeah,
so like separate episodes about all those other brands in
the future.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yes, but I think that is what we have to
say about lipt In for now.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
It is. We would love to hear from you. Do
y'all have any memories do did your grandmama make iced
tea with a bunch of Lipton tea bags and a
big plastic picture that smelled a little bit suspect do
you have Is that your favorite tea company? Do you
have a different favorite tea company? Do you have strong
(27:47):
opinions about PG tips? Let us know. In the meanwhile, though,
we do already have some listener mail for you, and
we're going to get into that as soon as we
get back from one more quick break for a word
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Speaker 1 (28:07):
And we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you, and
we're back with listeness. May just a nice You know
how refreshing tea can be. Oh yeah, oh, I was
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going to say in a hot summer day because I
was thinking of the sweet tea since you just mentioned it.
But on any foggy, cool day.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh yeah yeah, those tann and hits that really upset
your stomach. Yeah, alas, yes, alas delightful. M. M. Shamus
wrote before the pandemic, I had a daily thirty minute drive,
which was the perfect time to listen to an episode
on my way there and another on my way back. Well,
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I had to make a seven hour journey. Where I live, everything.
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Speaker 2 (30:01):
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Hello, and welcome to Saber Protection of iHeartRadio. I'm Annie Reese.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And I'm Lauren Vocal Bomb, and today we have an
episode for you about Lipton.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Yes, the company, the.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, the brand, the company. Sure, yeah, there are a
lot of things.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
They are and we're going to try our best to
untangle them. Uh huh yep. Not a sponsor, Nope, nope.
Was there any particular reason this was on your mind? Lauren?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Uh No. I think at some point I had like
seen one of those big corporate organization charts of how
all of the giant brands are interconnected, and Lipton was
one that stood out at me because I was like, yeah,
like long running tea and also.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Soup ice creaming. Mi'm to outherstand at one point.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, let's write that one down. Sure and uh And
I was like, I don't know, yeah, let's There was
sort of like a like a drink slot up in
our interest category for this week, and I was like, yeah,
sure lipt In Yeah, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I don't I feel like I don't have much experience
with Lipten. Actually no, no, And they do a lot
of stuff. They do a lot more stuff than I thought.
H But even so, I was like, no.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Uh yeah, yeah, I for sure I grew up with
Lipton tea being a staple of various households that I
was hanging out in, and definitely towards like college. Just
after college, I consumed a number a cup of soups
(01:58):
for survival purposes and also sometimes used the seasoning or
the soup packets as a seasoning for like, like before
I like built out my like spice collection to season
like I don't know if I was making like tuna
salad or something like that just to you know, yeah,
nicees a little packet of flavor.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I feel like college dining in the creative ways you
go about that, I personally am really interested in. So listeners,
if you have any hacks that were like your college go.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Oh yeah yeah, the more terrifying the better.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh absolutely absolutely Well. For past episodes, you can see
our general episode we did on Tea Tea Time, Tea Bags,
Earl Gray Twinings.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
We've definitely not done an episode on Twinings least wrong.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
I guess we did talk.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
About them in I believe our Earl Gray episode. They're
actually like the key rival of Lipton, especially in some markets.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So oh dear, what have I done?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Different kind of heat, different kind of rivalry. Yeah, we
have done an episode on Jasmine Tea. You can check
that one out.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, and I guess try for sure?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Mm hmm. Well, I suppose that does bring us to
our question. Sure, Lipton, what is it?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well? Lipton is a giant international company that produces and
sells tea and other like precursors to drinks, both under
the Lipten brand and a number of other brands. There
are also Lipton branded products produced and sold by other companies. Now,
(04:01):
because this is global scale, not all of these labels
and products are available everywhere. And also like to focus
in for today on the Lipten brand and not the
other brands that they own, but also the other companies
(04:21):
that own them. The Lipten brand basically they sell machine
cut teas and herbal blends in a bunch of formats.
You've got loose teas, cacups, and tea bags. The tea
bags come in both individual and multi serving sizes. You've
got drink mixes like just add water style in both
powders and liquid concentrates, and the brand has some prepared
(04:44):
bottled beverages which are shelf stable but meant to be
consumed chilled. Some of their other products are specified for
cold preparation and consumption. And yeah, they also do instant
soup mixes which are kind of a savory average.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I cannot speak for the brand everywhere, but the vibe
here in the US, in my estimation, is that Lipton
is like dependable, inexpensive, and basic. It's like if a
pack of sabertoothed tigers all wearing top hats and monocles
could sell you tea. Where did they get the top
(05:28):
hats and monocles? Why are they grinning like that? Do
not ask questions? Drink your tea.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
I'm scared, laurd you frightened me.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
I yet again not a sponsor, probably won't be after that.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I like the imagery, though, somebody should. Somebody should capture
that in some artistic form.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Oh if anyone listening is visually or stick, please oh,
because we are not. But okay, So in the US,
the Lipten brand is mostly known for just straight black tea,
and it's what I associate with, like what my grandmother
(06:19):
would use to make iced tea. Yeah, just like good
strong black tea that's anecdotal. Your mileage may vary. Please
write in here. In the States. Their current product lineup
includes regular old tea, bags of black tea, regular and
(06:40):
decaffeinated and organic, plus Earl Gray and English Breakfast plus
green tea in regular and decalf than flavored with lemon
or peach or honey ginger, plus herbal blends in flavors
like camameal, mint, peach, very high biscus, and lemon ginger.
They've also got a line of pyramid shaped tea bags
(07:01):
with black tea in three flavors lemon, vanilla, caramel, and peach.
These are meant to be more like visual and fancy.
They also do sell large format tea bags for making
pictures of iced tea. Those come in regular, decaf and
sweet pre sweetened. They've also got large format bags of
(07:22):
tea meant to be cold. Brood didn't look into how
those work. Furthermore, they have powdered and liquid instant mixes
for iced tea. The powders are brood black tea that's
been dehydrated. The liquids are concentrates. Both of these come
in a variety of other flavorings than just plain black
tea like lemon, peach, and raspberry. Some are sweetened, some
(07:46):
with sugar substitutes. The liquid concentrate does also come in
green tea with lemonade flavor. I'm not sure why, yeah,
lemonade and not green tea with lemon sweetened, but here
we are. The sweet black versions are labeled Southern sweet,
which cracks me up.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yep, it's a thing.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
It is a thing. I learned that their CA cups
are specifically for making iced teas, like they're meant to
be brood hot but over ice.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Yeah, I don't know CA cups being if you're unfamiliar
that those things that Kirig machines take, yeah and yeah,
they're ready to drink. Products are mostly sweetened and flavored.
They come in bases of green, black or white tea
and have flavorings like raspberry, citrus, or peach. They also
do a fusions line that's like iced tea mixed with
lemonade and other fruit flavors like pineapple, banngo. It was
(08:42):
a little difficult for me to track down what products
the brand cells in other countries, but for example, in France,
it seems like they focus on the flavored blends in
the fancy pyramid bags, like green Tea with orange flour
and mandarin orange, or green Tea with intense mint. I'm
not sure what the intense really refers to, but that's okay,
(09:07):
or green Tea with hibiscus and raspberry. They also have
black Tea with red fruits or with peach and mango.
Their Dutch line includes a lot of ready to drink options,
including sparkling iced teas, which is not a product I'd
come across before, but I'm like, why wouldn't you sparkle that? Sure? Absolutely, yeah,
(09:27):
sparkle anything in China because the tea at home market
is really about loose leaf tea. Lipped and sells a
lot of instant iced tea mix and milk tea mix
through fast food restaurants and then a lot of tea
bags to offices. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Interesting, mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
The brand is organized under the larger company lipped In
Teas and Infusions, which is headquartered in the Netherlands and
form few years back when Unilever sold off and or
spun off their tea businesses. Lipt In Teas and Infusions
also owns a lot of other tea companies like pg Tips,
(10:11):
Tea Two, Tazo, Puka, Red Rose, Lions, and Brooke Bond,
among other brands. Unilever did retain ownership through all that
of a few of their tea brands in certain instances
and markets, like they still control the ready to drink
Lipton iced tea beverages, so Uniliver also does still own
(10:36):
the instant soup side of lipt In, which produces just
add water soups in these little single serving packets in
flavors like chicken noodle, cream of chicken, and spring vegetable.
A bunch of their flavors are labeled as a soup
and dip mixes that are meant to be yeah, mixed
with something like sour cream to make an easy snack
(10:56):
dip for potato chips or whatever. Flavors like beefy onion, savory,
urban garlic, and vegetable what vegetable, I don't know. I
didn't all of the all of the photos on their
website were broken, and I didn't click through to look
at the ingredients. From what I remember, an air of mystery.
(11:20):
From what I remember, it's like carrot, onion and bell pepper.
I could be wrong. These, Uh, these generally involve like
a dehydrated broth, maybe a little chunks of chicken, little
chunks of vege, and some herbs and spices.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Very very interesting. Okay, well what about the nutrition do.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Not eat companies or brands? No, nope, nope. It would
be very difficult to fit in your mouth in a
single bite. Not sure how you would tackle that.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah. Just and also just a bunch of questions.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
We don't even know what vegetable is, right, We don't
have some numbers for you. We do so this first
one isn't really a number, but the US packaging for
Lipton's Plain Old Black tea claims that it is America's
favorite tea and I buy that. I buy that. Lipton
(12:25):
Te's and Infusions is the largest quote unquote single buyer
of tea in the world. They purchase some four percent
of the world's tea crop every year, much of it
at auction. They source that from around a million farmers
in thirty countries, and they keep an annual list of
(12:47):
all of them. They say it's all traceable. About two
thirds of that tea comes from Africa, and the company
claims that two hundred and fifty million people consume their
products every day.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
M again, like I buy that because as of twenty twenty,
they controlled some ten percent of the global market for
tea at that time, worth around three point six billion dollars.
Who Okay, from what I understand, their revenue is down
(13:27):
a little bit from then. But they are doing just fine.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yes they are, indeed, and in fact they have pretty
much throughout their history done pretty good, pretty well, for they.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Have, yes, and we are going to get into that history.
But first we're going to get into a quick break
forward from our sponsors.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I'm back, Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. Okay, So
CRT episode for more history. But T is quite old,
that's what we'll say. When it comes to Lipton, there
is one key figure at the beginning, and that is
Thomas Lipton. Thomas Lipton was born in Glasgow, Scotland in
(14:23):
the eighteen hundreds. A lot of his early history is lost,
but we do know that his father was an Irish
grocer and that in eighteen seventy one Thomas founded a
chain of grocery stores in Glasgow. I also read somewhere
that he just took over his father's store and then
made more, but in either case, he started his own
(14:44):
thing in groceries. Yeah. Yes, when he was quite young.
He spent a few years in the US after the
Civil War, taking a series of odd jobs and a
handful of places. There's a lot of stories that sound
kind of like miss about his time in the US
two sneaking away onto boats, getting into knife fights, stuff
(15:07):
like that.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Sorry, knife fights are not funny, but yeah, based on
how like respectable, A lot of the stuff I read
about him was painting him as an adult. That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yes, I agree, That's why I think there's some level
of myth to some of things. Yeah, Somewhere along the
way he allegedly picked up on brightly lit grocery stores
with clearly displayed items and took that mindset with him
back to Glasgow for his own stores, and this redesign worked.
(15:41):
These stores were apparently quite successful because at the age
of forty he was well off. I read he opened
about two hundred of them.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Yeah. However, he had aspirations of becoming even more successful,
and he saw an opportunity through ta and especially at
first tea in the UK. By the seventeenth century, tea
was incredibly popular throughout the UK, but it was still
a bit of a luxury for the working class. Shop
sold loose leaf tea at a price that was out
(16:14):
of reach for many, so it was kind of a
special item that you would get. Lipton wanted to come
up with a way to provide something more affordable that
would also turn him a profit. His plan to do
this primarily relied on cutting out the tea brokers and
growing tea himself. This meant he needed a sizable amount
(16:34):
of land, and it seems like he was a paranoid
fellow because to throw off potential competitors, he masked his
trip to modern day Sri Lanka, which was then called Ceylon,
as a vacation to Australia, so no one would know
what he was up to. This was a strategic decision.
(16:57):
Ceylon was one of the world's number one producers of
coffee in eighteen sixties, but a fungus came and wiped
out most of their crop of their coffee crop, so
a lot of producers turned to tea. Lipton arrived in
eighteen ninety when Ceylon was already producing an annual forty
five million pounds of tea. Still, the economic impact of
(17:18):
the collapse of the coffee industry lingered and the land
was cheap. Lipton took advantage of the situation, eventually purchasing
a dozen of states for tea production and putting in
machinery that would amp up the volume that could be
churned out. On top of that, he standardized the amounts
sold in packets to a quarter, half or full pound
(17:41):
as opposed to how amounts were previously measured out. It
was more convenient, and the public seemed to trust the
idea more that they weren't getting cheated. It was standardized
wherever people purchased it, and the cost was pretty much
half of what the price of tea in the UK
had been. The packets also featured advertising that read direct
(18:03):
from tea Garden to tea pot, which I love. The
whole thing was successful pretty quickly, and he did a
lot of showy advertising stunts that in both pigs and bagpipes,
big wheels of geese. He really got up to some stuff.
You can look it up, but the yeah, the whole
(18:25):
thing was so successful that Lipton branched out from selling
Limpton Tea and only his own stores to other stores,
and not just in the UK. When he attended the
eighteen ninety three Chicago World's Fair. He sold over a
million packets of tea there, and not long after that,
and thanks to some effective marketing campaigns, Lipton t was
(18:47):
popular not only in the UK, but in the US
as well. The popularity reached such levels that Lipton's own
estates as tea estates, couldn't keep up with demand. And
who did he turn to? The tea brokers he'd been
trying to cut out. Eventually he was only producing about
(19:08):
a tenth of the tea output for what he was selling.
And that meant that the advertising, or at least the
public perception that had been mostly solidified by that point
that the tea was, you know, from garden to pot
from Ceylon, it was untrue at this point, oh mine.
(19:29):
Stepping back a bit, Lipton was allegedly actively looking at
purchasing land for tea in South Carolina in eighteen ninety nine.
In nineteen sixty three, the Lipton Tea Company did fulfill
this pursuit, planting tea on an island off of South Carolina.
I want to bring that up because I've always wanted
to go visit that island. I think we like we
(19:52):
pitched the idea forever ago when we were still traveling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway.
Queen Victoria Thomas Lipton in eighteen ninety eight and he
died in nineteen thirty one, and he had never married
and had no children. Post World War Two, Lipton really
leaned into exporting their product globally, and this sometimes involved
(20:17):
catering to the taste of the particular market they were targeting,
so like offering a chai in India something like that.
Unilever kind of did a multi stage acquisition of Lipten
beginning in nineteen forty six, and it continued over the
span of twenty six years after that, Low and slow,
(20:37):
Yeah and confusing, confusing for a lowly podcast host. By
the nineteen fifties, Lipton was selling their products and tea
bags with brewing instructions included. This is also when they
started offering Lipton soup mixes and promoting a French onion
dip using their French Onion soup mix. Soon after, Lipton
(20:58):
introduced their iced tea mix to the United States, and
in nineteen seventy one, Unilever purchasely Lipton International brand like
for Real for Real, for Real, for real, and they
worked in partnership with Pepsi Co. And started producing bottles
of Lipton ready to drink tea in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Interestingly to me, Lipton only entered the Chinese consumer market
in nineteen ninety two, though they did pretty quickly rise
to dominate the tea bag market there.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
And then in twenty eleven, Peta reported that Lipton had
been conducting experiments on animals to test the health claims
of their products. Basically, they were inducing health conditions in
animals and then giving them the tea to see if
it lessened those conditions. Yes. In response to that whole thing,
(21:52):
Peda threatened an international quote Lipton slash PG tips Cruel
Tea Tea campaign, and Unilever received forty thousand appeals. After that,
the whole thing seemingly worked, because after these reports, pretty
soon after Unilever announced that they would cease animal testing
(22:13):
for their tea products, the company briefly sold a sort
of cuig competitor in twenty fifteen, called to by Lipton.
It didn't stick around for long though, however. Lipton pods
that are combatible with qureg machines are now available.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
In twenty twenty, Unilever consolidated it's thirty four T brands
into a division that they called Ekatera Ekaterra, I'm not sure.
It doesn't really matter, because they then sold it off
in an auction to this European private equity firm called
CVC Capital Partners in twenty twenty two for a cool
(22:54):
six point eight billion dollars. Apparently, sales of Unilever's core
product black tea had been declining for the previous few years.
There was a lot of industry buzz about why exactly
this consolidation and sale happened, but anyway, CBC Capital Partners
renamed the business Lipton Teas and Infusions.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
And then in twenty twenty three, Lipton's hard iced Tea
hit the shelves available in full flavors.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Okay, yeah, h stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The Lipten T's and Infusions company has been funding a
bunch of research into i'd say like future proofing their business.
Starting in twenty twenty four, they announced like new and
or continuing partnerships with a few universities and like government
and industry organizations in both the UK and Kenya to
(23:52):
develop projects that look at like education and efficiency and
technology in tea farming to like improve crap management and
reduce greenhouse gas emissions and pesticide use, and develop more
drought resistant plants, important as climate change continues to affect
the farms in this region and many other regions that
(24:14):
grow tea. The company is also doing work in like
tea processing and warehousing and other logistics. It's it's like
really ultimately self serving, but I do think that they
are trying to be more environmentally and socially responsible for
whatever reason, and I don't know, you know, I'll take it.
(24:38):
They've also sold a bunch of their East African tea
estates to the Sri Lankan holding firm called Brown's Investments,
along with an agreement to a purchase the resulting t
that b sets a bunch of social, environmental and quality
standards and then more on like the human interest side.
I guess one long abandoned research project from Lipton is
(25:03):
coming to New Fruition right now. So back in the
nineteen sixties, Lipton did some work with the University of
California's Kearney Agricultural Research and Extension Center to see how
tea might grow in California. The project was closed down
in the nineteen eighties, a few tea plants were kept
(25:23):
around basically as ornamentals until in the twenty teens a
few researchers decided to look into tea farming in that
region again. And yeah, if you happen to be in
the central California area and are interested in growing tea.
They're having their first Tea Day event on March nineteenth
(25:45):
of this year, twenty twenty six, just just a little
while from now as we record this, which will include
a tour of their tea estate, presentations on like research
production in marketing, and a sensory tasting sort of event
because they're their first harvest is set for April of
this year.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
That's cool. Yeah, listeners, if anybody goes, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Yeah yeah. And apparently I think we talked a little
bit about this in our Tea episode. Gosh, that was
a long time ago, but uh yeah, for like the
California Ish climate region. Uh, people do recommend tea plants
as ornamentals. They're pretty and you can pick the leaves
and make deed.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Sounds like a win win, you know, h m hmm. Well,
there was a lot more we could have gone into
to be honest with you. But I feel like this
is a pretty yeah, comprehensive.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, this was streamlined as much as I think we
could well, you know, yeah, yeah, still getting into a
little bit of the yeah, a little bit of the details.
Definitely company start splitting off. It became oh my goodness. Yeah,
And I mean like, we cannot cover PG Tips in
the same episode that we cover lipt In. That's wild.
(27:11):
That's way too many. Yes, that would be way too Yeah,
so like separate episodes about all those other brands in
the future.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yes, but I think that is what we have to
say about lipt In for now.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
It is. We would love to hear from you. Do
y'all have any memories do did your grandmama make iced
tea with a bunch of Lipton tea bags and a
big plastic picture that smelled a little bit suspect do
you have Is that your favorite tea company? Do you
have a different favorite tea company? Do you have strong
(27:47):
opinions about PG tips? Let us know. In the meanwhile, though,
we do already have some listener mail for you, and
we're going to get into that as soon as we
get back from one more quick break for a word
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Speaker 1 (28:07):
And we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you, and
we're back with listeness. May just a nice You know
how refreshing tea can be. Oh yeah, oh, I was
(28:29):
going to say in a hot summer day because I
was thinking of the sweet tea since you just mentioned it.
But on any foggy, cool day.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Oh yeah yeah, those tann and hits that really upset
your stomach. Yeah, alas, yes, alas delightful. M. M. Shamus
wrote before the pandemic, I had a daily thirty minute drive,
which was the perfect time to listen to an episode
on my way there and another on my way back. Well,
(28:59):
I had to make a seven hour journey. Where I live, everything.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Is either on the next street or at least two
hundred miles away. I was like, I wonder if the
Savor people are still at it, and I was so
happy to see that you still are. I loved hearing
you call the Screwcap episode part of a mini series
on closures, because I too love nerding out over everyday things. Anyway,
(29:27):
after listening to your shortening episode, I thought i'd tell
you that. A couple of years ago, I texted a
climate scientist friend of mine, asking if shortening biodegrades. I
said that even though it wasn't his area of study,
he must be up the hall from someone with an answer.
A few days later, he sent a response. She said,
(29:48):
under the right circumstances. There were no details on what
the right circumstances might be. Howm a steer. I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I love that you have a contact with people with.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
A kind of human who would know this? Yeah, or
no one knows someone who knows this? Uh yeah, yeah,
I'm guessing like a lot of water is involved, and
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Speaker 1 (30:31):
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Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yes, welcome back. That's so great. I love that you
checked back in. Yeah I'm still here.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah uh huh yeah uh uh, Kelsey wrote, I just
listened to your Raquette episode, which A maybe crave Raclette
and b gave me an excuse to tell you about
my first encounter with it. While my friend and I
were studying abroad in Spain, we spent a weekend visiting
(31:09):
my friend's cousin and her partner in Geneva, Switzerland. Our
flight got in quite late at night and we were famished,
so they took us to one of the only restaurants
still open there. We were presented with half a wheel
of bubbling raclette, which was then scraped over dishes of
potatoes and conachans. Her cousin started apologizing that they couldn't
do better for dinner, but we were in cheesy potato
(31:31):
ey heaven, how could it get any better? Okay, fondu
ingrier was pretty good too. Hopefully one day iHeart will
send you to Switzerland for research. Ps. Here's Scooter sunbathing
and watching bluey Oh my gosh. And attached is a
photo of a black or possibly chocolate cat. Yeah, just
(31:56):
like just like little seal pup like like on on
its back, like little pause it will pause up. It's
kind of squinty having a really nice time in a
sunbeam and apparently watching bluie. So what a good what
a good combination.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
It's an excellent combination. Mm hmmm. Also, I completely agree
we should go to Switzerland number one. Yes, two, Yes,
don't apologize for giving me recollet. That's a wonderful meal.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Oh right, yeah, like oh no, oh, I'm sorry you
only served me melted cheese.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That. No, I don't think you understand how completely thrilled
I am right now. This is excellent, delightful. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
well I have so many cravings right now. I don't
know what to do.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
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Speaker 1 (33:05):
That is true. It is a wonderful problem to have,
and we love hearing from you listeners and having these
crave things to say. Yes, maybe not be be able
to fulfill them.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
But that's okay, not right away.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, there's still time there, just to look forward to. Yeah. Yes,
So thank you to both of these listeners writing in.
If you would like to write to us, you can
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