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In our ongoing Sex and the City watch podcast, we talk about numbers, double standards and STIs.

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Annie and Samantha. Welcome to stuff one
never told your production.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
I heart radio, and welcome to another edition of Me
making Any watch Sex and the City for the first time. Yes,
and just me reliving my like early late twenties because

(00:29):
I was watching this whole town thinking I want this life.
I do not now that I've grown older, I realissa
do not want that life. But yes, we are watching
Sex and the City. We are in our season three
of Sex and the City, slowly going through it. I
have told Annie before in the previous episodes, I have

(00:50):
said this is probably one of the better seasons, one
of the most climactic seasons where things really start like rolling. However,
it's also a really problematic season, so I just put
that as a caveat. Of course, if you are listening
with children, you may want to step out because we
are going to discuss a lot of adult themes. Because

(01:10):
you know, Sex and the City. I feel like that's
self explanatory, just you know whatever. But yes, in this
segment I do make any watch for the first time.
We have a reaction and discussion about the episode about
what you know kind of does stand the test of time,
like meaning a yeah, the still is valid and versus
this is yeah, this is real problematic. Let's talk about it,

(01:31):
and let's talk about why we get real, real and
honest and just have a good time. Am I right?

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I think you are.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
And like last season, we want to have you a listener,
come and watch with us. You don't have to have
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All we ask is that you do have access to
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(02:01):
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Speaker 1 (02:17):
My, Samantha had to teach me all about that. Yes,
you don't have to have seen it before. It's really fine.
It's very low key. If you've seen it a million times,
that's also great. If you entered last time and did
not get in, please enter again, yes, because if if

(02:37):
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have gotten people who have contacted us already, so thank
you for that. It's gonna be really fun. Yes, So yeah,
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Speaker 2 (02:55):
Come be our friends, because this is an happy hour. Annie,
are you sip on anything?

Speaker 1 (03:01):
I am, I Samantha and nos. I'm very tired. I
just got back from a beach trip, emotional beach trip.
So I'm sipping on some leftover beer. But I my
friend made me this coozy eat which is prayey. So
I'm like, you know, the dregs of the vacation you're
holding on to. That's what I'm going for right now.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh okay, okay, Well, I'm drinking some sparkling water. It
is BlackBerry mango flavor. I loving it. I feel fancy.
I don't, but I kind of do. And with that,
if you are drinking or partaking up anything, just you know,
be responsible all the good things.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
All right?

Speaker 2 (03:40):
So, as per usual, Annie, before we begin, can you
give us a recap of season three thus far?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, So, I feel like the big revelation the last
episode was we met Aiden. If you know anything about
Sex and the City, this is a big love interest
for Carrie. It's like your team Aiden or team Big
mister big. I'm sure there's someone else and I'll find
out about it, but those are like the Big two.

(04:09):
So we've met him. He was kind of like not
into her smoking, so she decided to give up smoking
to keep dating him. We'll see how that goes. But
she's she's very much in flux in terms of what
she wants in a relationship, which I feel is pretty

(04:30):
much the case with most of them. Miranda has this
thing with Steve that seems really great, but they had
a good compromising discussion i'll say recently, but they're still
figuring out what they both want in that relationship. Charlotte's
on the prow for a husband as per huge and

(04:55):
had a really bad kisser most recently and like drew
her line like what was acceptable whatnot. And then Samantha's
I feel like every time, I'm like, Samantha's just living
her life. She's she had a proud, problematic storyline with
a black woman in the last episode, but she is

(05:19):
out there just.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Living that is true, living her life. So there is
that scenario. We do have aiden in the picture now,
and yes, it gets good from her. And with that,
I'm gonna give you the title of this week's episode
and see if you can give me a prediction of
things to come. So the episode is titled are We Sluts?

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Okay, this is terrible. I feel like I did so
well in the last one.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Did do really well in the last.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Okay. So if Carrie, Miranda, and presumably Charlotte are in
new Ish relationships, it's that conversation that comes off of
like how many how many people have you dated before?

(06:18):
What's your number? Those kinds of things, and then being
maybe shamed for it and talking about whether or not
that's legitimate, and then go to a club.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Of course they go to a club, but she didn't
say brunch, so just that that is a note people,
She did not say brunch did Okay, let's jump into it.

(06:54):
I want to snip er. Oh, must be the third date.
I'm really think I'd learned that from here, like after
the first day, second date, Like third date is the
sleeping together date, which I'm like, that's super fast.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Honestly, really fast for you.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Do you because I've done quicker obviously, but like as
a general rule, that seems really like quick.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
That does.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
So what everybody did last night? Nothing? Nothing of note.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I don't want to talk about it. Why what happened You.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Sleep with someone on the second day?

Speaker 3 (07:34):
No, it was the third date and it was Alexander Lemley,
the investment banker that I met at the Young Art
Collector show.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
And what the sex was bad?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
No, it was good, except.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
I don't think I can say it. Oh, get over yourself. Well, sweet,
what happened just so all of.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Us you know, came orgasm shot is what I love?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
The same has to say that extra loud. Yeah. No,
we would be fighting if a dude said that to
me at any point in time, because we would be
fighting unless we had like discussed it previously. Like that's
a thing that's a kink for you that we need
to like have this as a parameter.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Nobody wants to marry a whore. No, what's bad is
that even Charlotte is having more sex than I am.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
What about Aid? I love that Carrie? Just that makes
it more about her?

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yes, immediately, sorry about you.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
But guess what I don't have to quit carry but
he doesn't want to sleep with me. Okay, No he's
not gay. Mother issues. I don't know if I would
have jumped to mother issues immediately.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yes, so if it does.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
We'll work it out.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
I'll go left.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
The thing is I may never know.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, you better be careful. You wait too long to
sleep with someone. You miss the window and become just friends.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I know it's great.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I will say. If I'm friends with you first, I'm
more less likely to see you as a match. Like
I put you in that box and I can't get
past that.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah, this is interesting because I'm usually now attracted to
somebody in less friends with you.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
There's this fine line. I have to get to know
you because you're attracted or you're added to so. But
like the if the intent was that maybe that's a
possibility here with us, then I can keep that in
mind for a long time. But then we become two friends,
and then we have actually put you in that friend spot.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Mm hmmmmmmm, what's going on there?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Do you just want to be friends? Oh?

Speaker 2 (09:48):
I love a man who communicates. I do He does that,
She decides to give him the silent treatment and angrily
goes off, and he's like, what's going on up there?
We love him man who asks? We love anyone who asks.
Let's be honest, not too much stuff. Don't ask me
too many times because I'm not just gonna be annoyed.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Yeah, you have to like accept the answer with women
even if like you're maybe that's not quite right. But
if you keep asking, then it feels like you're just
in validating my opinion.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Right, I just want to try to sleep with somebody
I care about. Oh, I really think that I could
care about you. But I also believe that you could
also care about a person who you slept with within
like day four or five.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yes, this is interesting because it goes back to our
conversations we've had about virginity and purity, right, and like
waiting for marriage, which I think it can't be Like
if you if you're like I would rather wait, that's totally.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Cool, which is fine. This is all about consent and
your preference and your choice and that's amazing. So like,
either way it can work. I mean, there's so many things,
but this does feel like an etiquette roule, like that
whole like a man in like so many days whatever?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yeah, like will you be seen as a slut? Yeah,
as the episode titles.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Chain, my gynecologists called me today and my test which
she just threw in for good measure, came back positive.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Kes it's not terrible. There aren't any symptoms roll we
got an STI, which I you know what, this is
one of the episodes. I actually did appreciate the way
they normalize the conversation about sti's and like not being
like you're although it is in an episode under called
are We Sluts? But her her plotline is a little different,

(11:43):
like you'll see as it goes like this is not
what makes her think she's a slut. But I do
love like they're just like normalizing her, like this is
what happened, and I got tested and now I'm getting
treated and here's what we look like. So I feel
like they did a really good job in that.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
You yelled out something during wesleep.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Doing sex. It's interesting that Charlotte, who is Miss Etiquette,
is talking about this at dinner in public.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yes, yes, and again not too slutshame at all, but
she does have a lot of partners. To me, I'm like, damn, I.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Think according Like, I think someone actually went through and
tried to do a tally of how many people they
slept with, and they're like the numbers are pretty high.
Not just slutshame, but like for like the amount of
people that she went like had dated that. That was
a pretty big amount of numbers, like for all the
all of like that I want to be married and
all these like etiquette things you gotta try, right, agree

(13:00):
what I'm just getting started here, I'm only at the neck.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Maybe you changed your mind when I'm done around there.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Elbows, I can't tonight. I have chlamydia. I think that's
one of the more famous lines. Honestly, I think people
like not said it out loud, but it's just like
such a line. But oh my gosh, it's just a.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Sexually transmitted disease and I might have given it to
you or you might have given it to me.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
Ba boom, ba boom. But again, the way they're just
able to talk about it and communicate through it, I
really do appreciate, Like I don't think I think I
remember being shocked that they were so yeah calm about it,
But now as an adult and like realizing the stigmas
behind all these I like, I love this.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, this is nice because it wasn't like he was like, oh,
you're a slut. She was just like maybe it was this,
maybe it was this, but you need to get tested.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
And he was like okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
I have to go.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
My friend wants to see me in the bathroom?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
What did you want?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Because, oh my gosh, are you saying I'm dirty? Do
I need a bath? What's that meaning?

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Just smell bad?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I just want to say insecure? What are you trying
to say? Dude?

Speaker 1 (14:28):
We both immediately went to, well.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
What are you trying to say?

Speaker 1 (14:33):
He has been a day?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
What are you sure this isn't just a cheap ploy
to see me naked? Will you be naked?

Speaker 4 (14:41):
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
About that, Oh, this is about you, so enjoy.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Okay, get going.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
That's interesting. If somebody made me a bath and then laughed,
I wouldn't take the bath, mostly because I don't like
baths that much.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I enjoy a good bath, but in Georgia, because it's
always flipping hot, it's not that great.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
No, and it takes for ever to like fill it up,
and then the water gets at least in my keys. Anyway,
I'm complaining about baths. I'd be mad if somebody made
me a bath and do not stay for it.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Would you want them to take a bath with you? No?

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I'd just be like, well, why did you do this?
You didn't ask me about it? And now I have
a bath, and I guess I'll take one. I don't
know for me romances.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
If you bring me a cookie, bring me that, Oh
thank you? You know how you know how to get
my heart.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
All right, I'll keep that.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
You know I love food.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's true.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I'm for the first time in a long time. I
was nervous Aiden and I were going to sleep together
and it was going to mean something. I was no virgin,
but this was definitely virgin territory.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Did you compare the men versus the women on this show?
It's just literally like the standards for the women, You're like,
you have to be almost perfect, as the men are like,
yeah you could. You've kind of got a did bod
like which like is not? Which is the conversation of like,
women do not care as much as you think they do,
but then like, the standard for women are so much higher. Yes,

(16:36):
the end, so you're pretty close on except there was
no club Annie, there was no I'm sorry. There was
the judgment of the numbers. They were the conversation of
sdis and then of course being actually called a slot

(16:59):
or whoror rather yes, which is a thing, which is like, yeah,
I don't want like this is obviously comic appeal, but
most of the times when men feel that way about
women or say that subconsciously, there's a whole level of
issues which maybe as they asked, mommy issues that we
don't know about or pre relationship issues. I will give

(17:22):
you a B because you've missed the club part or
the b U And now I absolutely want Chinese food.
Did I have it recently? Yes, but now want more.
But I think it's really I think this like, Okay,
this wasn't a problematic conversation. It was like I can't

(17:42):
I really did. I don't think I appreciate as much
as I do now, like like that level of conversation
about STDs and sdis and the fact that Steve was
so supportively, like the numbers are not a big deal,
like kind of that just having that conversation. I don't
treat my girlfriend that way. It was super cute, and
just like versation about like what it looks to slow
down and not meet expectations or meeting expectations if you

(18:05):
want to or not. There's this whole conversation and I
did appreciate that. This episode wasn't I'm glad we got
a break Except for yeah, they do keep having to
like harp on about the level of like women and
whether or not they should be seen this way. Of course,

(18:27):
again she comes back with, like, you need to note
that women aren't the only ones those really considered sluts
on the side.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, yeah, I agree. I really liked that it didn't
feel very slut shamy to me, where it was more
just like adding up the numbers, especially with Moranda and
Steve and it being oh, okay, it's all good. Uh

(18:58):
we both got tested are we did this thing? And
it was just very adult way of looking at it
instead of and it was very open and honest, because
I think that's really important when you're like, hey, at
this thing, I'm going to get a tested. You should
get tested too. It was just a really healthy way
of handling that that didn't feel very slutshamy, all right,

(19:20):
And I appreciated that a lot, right.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
And in future episodes they do address it again on
a steper level of like the stigma and then the fear,
like the being like you need to do these things.
But the way they normalize it once again is like,
of course, I'm like they talk about taking the HIV
tests and all aids tests and they're like, yeah, I've
done it three times, Like having that conversation about wanting
to be healthy knowing that they're sexually active and that

(19:45):
is okay, just making sure you're taking care of yourself. Again,
I'm like, I really do appreciate these levels of conversation,
especially during a time like yes, let's talk about sexual liberation,
women enjoying sex and being a part of community of
like meeting new people and not having to be committed
relationships but being adults and making sure that we are

(20:08):
keeping out ourselves healthy and responsible. And I'm like, yeah,
right on, good on, y'all. I love this. Uh so
they do that really well. I think I say this
and late later on might be like, oh, they're doing
something outrageous, you know, or making it a plot line
to make it a punchline. Rather so I mean, for now,

(20:30):
this episode was really better in the way they handled it,
especially like chlamydia and talking about what it is and
I know past host has talked about STIs and like
this is not a shame thing, Like this is not
more as uncommon as you think, and it should be
something that we did talk about and look at. And
uh yeah, I also really love seeing Aiden all the time.

(20:52):
And I like the fact that Steve and Mariande's relationship
seems healthy at this point. You know, this is a
drama about romance.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
So yes, yes, I really liked that. I liked that
because and this is a very like a stereotypical, generic read.
But if you like we're thinking about each of the
characters and their personalities, I feel like you would think
Miranda would not have had sex with that many people.

(21:25):
She would have had a lot of sex, but like
not that many. But I love that she wrote like
guy from the deli because that's such a that means
she just was like attracted to this guy. I didn't
even remember his name, And I think that's great, like
if you're doing it consentually, safely, sanely. I love the
idea that, yeah, just had sex with that guy.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I go back to the original like one of the
episode's past episodes where she's flirting with the sandwich dude. Mmm,
you know what I'm talking about, and she like loves
the way because but he's got to like he's antagonizing
her and has his sexy voys. I'm like, did she
go back to him? Is that the dude the Billy maybe.
I don't know if y'all remember that episode. Anyway, well, Annie,

(22:08):
you did a fairly good job. You did miss out
on the brunch. The only thing they had together was
the brunch episode really outside of some of the dinners.
But but I'm sure you can make it up for
the next round. We'll see, we'll see. And yeah, y'all,
if you are interested in being a part of this
and being a part of our discussions, please let us know.

(22:29):
I think it's coming up pretty soon. We'll probably take
a pause before we do all of that, so we'll
have plenty of time. It will be a couple of
probably a couple months out, so if you were interested,
send in your name, let us know, and we will
go from there. Again, no no need to have ever
seen it, or if you're an avid lover, you're ready.

(22:51):
We had many people. Bridget came on, she loved this,
she loves this, and we had such a great conversation.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
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amazing and we'll facilitate all the tech side, the editing side.
It's gonna be a fun time. So if you're interested,
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(23:40):
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