April 2, 2026 • 23 mins
As more and more and people turn to things like Ozempic for weight loss, questions and anxiety mount.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Sandy and Samantha from the Stuff I
Never Told your production of iHeart Radio, and welcome to
another edition of Happy Hour. As always with these, if
you're choosing to drink or whatever you're choosing to do,
please do so responsibly. Samantha, what are you up to?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I am drinking my citrone and throat coat, which has
been the drink of choice or breathe deep, Yeah, two
teeth that I've been drinking for my allergies. I'm on
a whole remedy right now. What about you?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You've made some progress.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It's getting better, it's getting better.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I have some rose rose today. I feel like it's Friday.
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It does feel like that to me too.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
It's definitely not I guess. I don't know. I just
have this Friday vibe. I'm gonna be really depressed about
it later, I think. But okay, so I do want
to put a content warning on this one. We are
talking about weights and weight loss and anxiety around weight
and weight loss, I would say, and also disclaimer, I
(01:23):
don't normally I think because we've sort of switched around,
like the Monday Mini some stuff we would normally put
in the Monday Mini is sort of getting put into
the happy hour sometimes, So this is a little bit
more written out than I would normally do for a
happy hour, but it is still pretty much my opinion,
(01:47):
so I want to put that out there. And also disclaimer,
this is really tricky to talk about, and yeah, I
am speaking from my own thoughts and experiences, and we
are planning on doing a whole episode on this eventually.
It's been on our list for a long time. We'll
get to it, but for now, these are some thoughts
(02:12):
and anxieties I am having about things like ozempic and
how popular they're becoming. Okay, so first of all, there
are a lot of reasons people will use something like
ozempic for their health or for whatever it is. There's
(02:33):
like a variety of things and ultimately it's your choice
to make and I don't want to take that away
at all. That's not what I'm trying to do, but
I guess, like when it comes to my own anxiety,
I've I now know several people, like people who are
(02:54):
close to me who are taking ozembic or we govy
or whatever in that kind of weight loss. Well, it's
being termed as like weight loss right, but as we know,
it does do a bunch of other stuff. That's what
it was originally made for, but it has given me.
I just get really anxious about it, and you know,
(03:17):
ultimately it's not really my business. I just want to
talk about why I have the anxiety, and that a
lot of this I'm projecting my own stuff, so okay,
disclaim or disclaimer disclaimer. The main issue I really have
(03:39):
is societal because I can't blame people and largely women
in this case, for wanting something that has been promised
to help them lose weight because that sounds nice. I
honestly would want it to sometimes I do want it.
But we've talked about this a lot before on the show.
(04:00):
It's messy to untangle what society has taught us when
it comes to what we should look like versus what
we actually want versus what is actually healthy, and very
very selfishly, I'm kind of annoyed. I feel bad admitting this.
I'm kind of annoyed that I spent years, years counting
(04:23):
calories and waking about the crack of dawn to run
and to exercise before I went to work, to look
a certain way, and now it feels like people are
just taking a medication. I know, I'm terrible, it's the worst.
But before you yell at me, it was also privileged
of me to have the ability to take that time
(04:46):
to exercise and to get like healthy food already, even
have time to eat, which I'm now struggling with. I
get so caught up in things I just forget, and
so I want to make that clear. This is a
very selfish, not good, toxic thought, but I do have it.
There are also genetics involved, like we can't deny that too.
(05:09):
No one asked me to wake up at the crack
of dawn and do all of these things. There were
societal pressures around it and around women and desirability, but
no one in my life, right except one guy, but
no one in my life one guy I dated, but yeah,
no we didn't last long. But they weren't asking me
(05:32):
to do that, and in fact, they were very complimentary,
like good for you. So I want to make that
clear too, And I do have I've talked about this before.
I have bad coping mechanisms that can look healthy on
the outside, and this this whole thing was one for me,
and I do like I love I did love it.
(05:55):
I loved exercising, I loved brending, I loved being outside.
But I just took it too far. And that's kind
of my problem. I do that with a lot of stuff,
with coping mechanisms. But yes, there is a part of
me that is feeling frustrated and anxious because not only
(06:17):
did I not appreciate my traditionally desirable thin body at
the time when I had it. Now I feel like
I'm getting left behind. Now, I feel like like I'm
going to wake up one day and I'm, you know,
the only one who hasn't been taking this medication, which
(06:39):
I know is also a little ridiculous. But to reiterate,
I want to be clear. You can do all the
things I just mentioned, like running all the time and
eating correctly and not lose weight. But that is something
that can happen, and in my case it did. It
(07:00):
did work, but looking back, it just wasn't sustainable. I
did do it for years, but there's no way I
could have kept doing it. I mean, I try to
get back into it during after the pandemic, and as
my good friend told me, your body will remember what
you put it through. And the body does, and the
(07:21):
old nies are like, Nope, no way, and I went
to years of physical therapy for in years. Another thing
that's really heavy on my heart about this whole thing
(07:42):
is the ramifications. This is what really concerns me of
kind of the who can afford this aspects because it's
not everybody can and even though the prices have gone down,
still expensive, not everybody can afford it. And also the
(08:04):
ramifications when it comes to body positivity or just how
we feel around bodies that look bodies that aren't the
traditional thinness that is unfortunately coming back in. So I'm
concerned that people with the money to access these medications
will while those who don't have the money won't can't,
(08:29):
and it will reinforce these kind of classiest lines and
thinness as the quote superior body type. And there's a
lot being written about this right now. This kind of
all came up for me. I've been thinking about it
(08:51):
for a while, but I was telling Samantha when I
was watching the Olympics, there were a lot about like
every ad almost was for one of these drugs, and
I just was thinking, I feel like we're in some
kind of shift that I'm not sure we're shifting where
we should be shifting. Yeah, and I can admit that
(09:14):
I am jealous. Like I said, it's nice to think,
but I'm also scared of the side effects. That's that's true.
I mean it's not like I couldn't take it. I
honestly don't want to. So all of this is on me.
Like I like, I don't want to do it. I've
also not really doing other things to like make my
(09:37):
life healthier. I keep trying, and like two days later,
I'm like, but these are all my decisions. These are
all the decisions I'm making. But I think it's that
societal pressure that it feels like it's weighing down on me.
And it feels like one day it's going to come
(09:59):
back and bite me that I didn't partake. And I
don't like what that says about me, and I don't
like how that makes me feel. It's like dredging up
some stuff that I really, I really don't want that
to come back. I was trying to shake that stuff
(10:20):
off and I thought, you know, maybe I had, but
now here it is. It also makes me this is
a problem I've always had, it's just been amplified by this.
It makes me more anxious about food around people like
I no longer feel very I wouldn't like text somebody
(10:43):
who I knew was taking something like that, like I
want French fries. I would never do it anymore. Like again,
that's a me thing and not a them thing. But
I have always had that problem and that makes me sad.
But yeah, I mean, ultimately, I'm afraid we're just moving
(11:04):
into a new world standard. I mean they're already talking
about like restaurants are changing their menus based on this
whole thing, which I'm not necessarily opposed to at all,
but those changes are happening. So I'm just I'm worried
about it and what it might mean. And I'm worried
(11:26):
I'll get left behind. But maybe I don't know, maybe
it'll be fine. Maybe I'm overthinking all this.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Your words, you'll be left behind as in like that
you're not losing weight or.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
How Yeah, Like suddenly everybody I know is going to
be like the traditional thin body type and I'm not
going to be, which again makes me feel really terrible
about myself because what does that say? But it's just
that like social the value, the social value you get
(12:01):
from that. If we are going back to this, like
tossing body positivity out the window. Then it does feel
like a diminishing of your value if that's what we
as a society are saying is the norm and what
it is good and which I hate, I don't like,
(12:25):
I don't like. I have these thoughts, but I also,
like I said, I can't blame people, because it is
true that historically we have value than this. So it's
it's a complicated situation. That's why we when we do
the episode, that one's going to take it, that one's
(12:45):
going to take a minute to get it right and
to to dig through all the stuff people are writing
about it. But I hope it is clear I'm more
angry at society. I'm not mad anybody. I'm add it
myself mostly feeling some of these things. But I did
(13:06):
want to express it because I think some people might
be struggling with it too.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, you and I talked about that the many ads
we get for private organizations that are making profits off
of this, specifically products that are being released without it
being actually studied. The fact that the government does not
care about this product because it brings in profit and
we're not having enough testing. I think there's a lot
(13:38):
of conversations we're not having that new back to the
eighties nineties, rail thin supermodel look has been attainable because
of products like this, whether it's healthy or not. You
know that again, is that conversation things being released without
studying true side effects, things being released without the talking
(14:02):
about the environmental impact and then social impact, especially for
those who use these types of medications because of diabetes
and health related things and not being accessible to them,
or maybe it is not more accessible, who knows, Like
it's kind of this thin line about what's going on.
And then quality control, Like there's been a lot of
(14:24):
conversations about like the lack of quality control and what
you're actually getting. It is a lot to be said,
Like there's a lot to be thrown out there in
this conversation and why why these these topics are important
and because it is affecting everyone, like everyone is taking it,
we'd see this, but we also know that it's geared
(14:45):
more towards women than any other marginalized group. So it's
kind of this level of like but also, as I've seen,
like many other way things, the minute like you come
off of it, the likelihood of you gaining that weight
back is really high, and then some in an even
more unhealthy way, like the dramatic change.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I also really am sad for people.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And I say this because I went through a whole
weight loss stuff with well Future, and when I was
taking it from my depression and I was like, hell, yeah,
I look good, I'm finally down. This is the best
medicine in the world. And then I started having heart palpitations.
I might never never mind, never mind, I can't do that.
But for a minute I felt amazing because of the
way I looked, because of the things that I could
(15:29):
wear and feel more confident in, and so like there's
this level of wanting to be in that place again.
But at the same time, when I gained it all back,
because I neavitally gained it all back, the people who
stopped complimenting me, the people who you know, was all
about telling me how look great I looked every time
they saw me, immediately stopped. And it was so noticeable
(15:50):
to me that it like it kind of I wanted
to come out even less after that fact, you know,
but like this level of conversation is like are you
going to be Can people beyond it? For the remainder
of their life. Is the supply going to meet the demand?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Is it healthy?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Because I've also hard people having heart trouble due to
some of these complications with a medication, Like some people
have more reactions. Apparently Asian people have a really harsh
reaction or no reaction to met Foreman, which is one of.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Those drugs as well.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
So I was like, oh, really, I didn't know that,
Like it's all these conversations were being had, but again
everything is being released so quickly, and then coming back
to like what happens if we do go backtrack, because
like is the money marketing scheme.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
They want you to be on it for a while.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
The industry in itself wants you to be on it
permanently so they can have that subscription service being paid
out all the time. So it is this really fine
line to get to. And then seeing people who once
were really positive like body positive, going into weight loss
journey and I'm like, you don't want to hate it
(16:59):
because you under stand it, but at the same time
you feel kind of sad and disappointed because those people
who were such great influences. But then at the same
time they get the pressure of like, well, there's access
to this, why don't you try this type of conversation too.
There's just it's such a deep level in conversation in
the study alone, like the scientific look at it, the
(17:20):
resource backed assessment in it all, and then also again
the implications that we see, and yeah, the tugging pull
of being people who seek perfection and feeling like having
a specific body type, looking a specific weight which is
never the standard until more recently has taken over, you know,
(17:41):
and then where do you go fall in line with
that in society.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, it's a complicated conversation in a lot of ways
because it is like you do understand why people are
(18:07):
doing it, and you don't want to judge them for it.
Like I feel like a lot of times when I
see celebrities who have lost a lot of weight, now
I'm like, oh, and it's not a good Like that's
their decision, right, And like you said, there's a lot
of pressure. There's a lot of push to do that,
but it does feel very disheartening in some ways. But
(18:29):
then you're like, oh, I can't pin that all on them,
So it's just like a mess. It's like a whole
tangle of emotion.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Where do we go with this, Yeah, there is, and
we do definitely want to talk about it because also
how do we have this discussion and also we have
to talk about the fact that the main spiriteness behind
these conversations as well in judgments, there's the damned if
you do, damned if you don't, and people with good
(18:57):
intentions are still doing really like harmful rhetoric in these
conversations too. And we could say that about the same
thing with the plastic surgery. I just saw someone who
I hadn't seen, like a celebrity in years and whatever
work she has that done amazing, like blown away about
how good it looks. But at the same time, I'm sad,
(19:21):
yeah that, you know, like she can't just be but
you can tell in what she speaks and how she
speaks she feels great and she feels like she can
come out and doing, you know, even though she looks
this good. I'm telling you, she looks like she's in
her thirties, like and she's in her fifties. I'm like, well, damn,
(19:43):
but now we know part of this conversation. When she
was an it girl back then, she's no longer the
it girl. Now she's the Grandma. Now she's like, you know,
all these characters that she never thought she'd have to
play or never thought about playing, and now she's back
to that. And even with looking that good, she will
never be place in a younger role type of thing.
It's such a like blatant tight rope that people have
(20:08):
to ride and not knowing how to do this. But
at the same time, the changes are very significant and
people notice it and can't help but notice it. Yeah,
so how do you walk that line? It's such a
hard place in this whole depth of conversation.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh yeah, I mean people are waiting for women to fail.
I believe that they are waiting for you. They're going
to make fun of you as you get older, and
they're going to make fun of you if you take
steps to look like you haven't gotten older. I believe
that completely. And I guess that goes back to the
(20:43):
point I was trying to make is that the societal
part is what really gives me anxiety more than like
a personal like a person I know doing it. It's
that I get. I understand why they're doing it because
of these pressures. It makes sense. I get why actors
(21:03):
do it, and especially women actors do it because you
do get aged out. You're like, oh, you're thirty the grandma. Now,
I mean for a while, this was like ten years ago,
but I believe the average Oscar winning male like actor
(21:24):
was fifty something and the average Oscar winning female actor
was twenty something. Like that's a that's a pretty stark difference.
Uh So, it's like it's a reality. It's a reality
that we live in. But that's what I was really
(21:44):
hoping we were changing. And now I'm worried with this,
we're gonna go backwards. But there are people I was
reading some articles about this before we started, and there
are people who obviously who are still doing the work
and who are being the work of just being body
(22:06):
positive and like there's different types of bodies and stuff.
But there's a lot of like people out there and
resources and research still happening, so it's not all doom
and gloom. And some people were very well, we don't
know how much how much bigger this is going to get.
We're not sure, we don't know. Huh. Anyway, it's a lot.
(22:31):
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Hey, this is Sandy and Samantha from the Stuff I
Never Told your production of iHeart Radio, and welcome to
another edition of Happy Hour. As always with these, if
you're choosing to drink or whatever you're choosing to do,
please do so responsibly. Samantha, what are you up to?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
I am drinking my citrone and throat coat, which has
been the drink of choice or breathe deep, Yeah, two
teeth that I've been drinking for my allergies. I'm on
a whole remedy right now. What about you?
Speaker 1 (00:45):
You've made some progress.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
It's getting better, it's getting better.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I have some rose rose today. I feel like it's Friday.
I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
It does feel like that to me too.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
It's definitely not I guess. I don't know. I just
have this Friday vibe. I'm gonna be really depressed about
it later, I think. But okay, so I do want
to put a content warning on this one. We are
talking about weights and weight loss and anxiety around weight
and weight loss, I would say, and also disclaimer, I
(01:23):
don't normally I think because we've sort of switched around,
like the Monday Mini some stuff we would normally put
in the Monday Mini is sort of getting put into
the happy hour sometimes, So this is a little bit
more written out than I would normally do for a
happy hour, but it is still pretty much my opinion,
(01:47):
so I want to put that out there. And also disclaimer,
this is really tricky to talk about, and yeah, I
am speaking from my own thoughts and experiences, and we
are planning on doing a whole episode on this eventually.
It's been on our list for a long time. We'll
get to it, but for now, these are some thoughts
(02:12):
and anxieties I am having about things like ozempic and
how popular they're becoming. Okay, so first of all, there
are a lot of reasons people will use something like
ozempic for their health or for whatever it is. There's
(02:33):
like a variety of things and ultimately it's your choice
to make and I don't want to take that away
at all. That's not what I'm trying to do, but
I guess, like when it comes to my own anxiety,
I've I now know several people, like people who are
(02:54):
close to me who are taking ozembic or we govy
or whatever in that kind of weight loss. Well, it's
being termed as like weight loss right, but as we know,
it does do a bunch of other stuff. That's what
it was originally made for, but it has given me.
I just get really anxious about it, and you know,
(03:17):
ultimately it's not really my business. I just want to
talk about why I have the anxiety, and that a
lot of this I'm projecting my own stuff, so okay,
disclaim or disclaimer disclaimer. The main issue I really have
(03:39):
is societal because I can't blame people and largely women
in this case, for wanting something that has been promised
to help them lose weight because that sounds nice. I
honestly would want it to sometimes I do want it.
But we've talked about this a lot before on the show.
(04:00):
It's messy to untangle what society has taught us when
it comes to what we should look like versus what
we actually want versus what is actually healthy, and very
very selfishly, I'm kind of annoyed. I feel bad admitting this.
I'm kind of annoyed that I spent years, years counting
(04:23):
calories and waking about the crack of dawn to run
and to exercise before I went to work, to look
a certain way, and now it feels like people are
just taking a medication. I know, I'm terrible, it's the worst.
But before you yell at me, it was also privileged
of me to have the ability to take that time
(04:46):
to exercise and to get like healthy food already, even
have time to eat, which I'm now struggling with. I
get so caught up in things I just forget, and
so I want to make that clear. This is a
very selfish, not good, toxic thought, but I do have it.
There are also genetics involved, like we can't deny that too.
(05:09):
No one asked me to wake up at the crack
of dawn and do all of these things. There were
societal pressures around it and around women and desirability, but
no one in my life, right except one guy, but
no one in my life one guy I dated, but yeah,
no we didn't last long. But they weren't asking me
(05:32):
to do that, and in fact, they were very complimentary,
like good for you. So I want to make that
clear too, And I do have I've talked about this before.
I have bad coping mechanisms that can look healthy on
the outside, and this this whole thing was one for me,
and I do like I love I did love it.
(05:55):
I loved exercising, I loved brending, I loved being outside.
But I just took it too far. And that's kind
of my problem. I do that with a lot of stuff,
with coping mechanisms. But yes, there is a part of
me that is feeling frustrated and anxious because not only
(06:17):
did I not appreciate my traditionally desirable thin body at
the time when I had it. Now I feel like
I'm getting left behind. Now, I feel like like I'm
going to wake up one day and I'm, you know,
the only one who hasn't been taking this medication, which
(06:39):
I know is also a little ridiculous. But to reiterate,
I want to be clear. You can do all the
things I just mentioned, like running all the time and
eating correctly and not lose weight. But that is something
that can happen, and in my case it did. It
(07:00):
did work, but looking back, it just wasn't sustainable. I
did do it for years, but there's no way I
could have kept doing it. I mean, I try to
get back into it during after the pandemic, and as
my good friend told me, your body will remember what
you put it through. And the body does, and the
(07:21):
old nies are like, Nope, no way, and I went
to years of physical therapy for in years. Another thing
that's really heavy on my heart about this whole thing
(07:42):
is the ramifications. This is what really concerns me of
kind of the who can afford this aspects because it's
not everybody can and even though the prices have gone down,
still expensive, not everybody can afford it. And also the
(08:04):
ramifications when it comes to body positivity or just how
we feel around bodies that look bodies that aren't the
traditional thinness that is unfortunately coming back in. So I'm
concerned that people with the money to access these medications
will while those who don't have the money won't can't,
(08:29):
and it will reinforce these kind of classiest lines and
thinness as the quote superior body type. And there's a
lot being written about this right now. This kind of
all came up for me. I've been thinking about it
(08:51):
for a while, but I was telling Samantha when I
was watching the Olympics, there were a lot about like
every ad almost was for one of these drugs, and
I just was thinking, I feel like we're in some
kind of shift that I'm not sure we're shifting where
we should be shifting. Yeah, and I can admit that
(09:14):
I am jealous. Like I said, it's nice to think,
but I'm also scared of the side effects. That's that's true.
I mean it's not like I couldn't take it. I
honestly don't want to. So all of this is on me.
Like I like, I don't want to do it. I've
also not really doing other things to like make my
(09:37):
life healthier. I keep trying, and like two days later,
I'm like, but these are all my decisions. These are
all the decisions I'm making. But I think it's that
societal pressure that it feels like it's weighing down on me.
And it feels like one day it's going to come
(09:59):
back and bite me that I didn't partake. And I
don't like what that says about me, and I don't
like how that makes me feel. It's like dredging up
some stuff that I really, I really don't want that
to come back. I was trying to shake that stuff
(10:20):
off and I thought, you know, maybe I had, but
now here it is. It also makes me this is
a problem I've always had, it's just been amplified by this.
It makes me more anxious about food around people like
I no longer feel very I wouldn't like text somebody
(10:43):
who I knew was taking something like that, like I
want French fries. I would never do it anymore. Like again,
that's a me thing and not a them thing. But
I have always had that problem and that makes me sad.
But yeah, I mean, ultimately, I'm afraid we're just moving
(11:04):
into a new world standard. I mean they're already talking
about like restaurants are changing their menus based on this
whole thing, which I'm not necessarily opposed to at all,
but those changes are happening. So I'm just I'm worried
about it and what it might mean. And I'm worried
(11:26):
I'll get left behind. But maybe I don't know, maybe
it'll be fine. Maybe I'm overthinking all this.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Your words, you'll be left behind as in like that
you're not losing weight or.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
How Yeah, Like suddenly everybody I know is going to
be like the traditional thin body type and I'm not
going to be, which again makes me feel really terrible
about myself because what does that say? But it's just
that like social the value, the social value you get
(12:01):
from that. If we are going back to this, like
tossing body positivity out the window. Then it does feel
like a diminishing of your value if that's what we
as a society are saying is the norm and what
it is good and which I hate, I don't like,
(12:25):
I don't like. I have these thoughts, but I also,
like I said, I can't blame people, because it is
true that historically we have value than this. So it's
it's a complicated situation. That's why we when we do
the episode, that one's going to take it, that one's
(12:45):
going to take a minute to get it right and
to to dig through all the stuff people are writing
about it. But I hope it is clear I'm more
angry at society. I'm not mad anybody. I'm add it
myself mostly feeling some of these things. But I did
(13:06):
want to express it because I think some people might
be struggling with it too.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, you and I talked about that the many ads
we get for private organizations that are making profits off
of this, specifically products that are being released without it
being actually studied. The fact that the government does not
care about this product because it brings in profit and
we're not having enough testing. I think there's a lot
(13:38):
of conversations we're not having that new back to the
eighties nineties, rail thin supermodel look has been attainable because
of products like this, whether it's healthy or not. You
know that again, is that conversation things being released without
studying true side effects, things being released without the talking
(14:02):
about the environmental impact and then social impact, especially for
those who use these types of medications because of diabetes
and health related things and not being accessible to them,
or maybe it is not more accessible, who knows, Like
it's kind of this thin line about what's going on.
And then quality control, Like there's been a lot of
(14:24):
conversations about like the lack of quality control and what
you're actually getting. It is a lot to be said,
Like there's a lot to be thrown out there in
this conversation and why why these these topics are important
and because it is affecting everyone, like everyone is taking it,
we'd see this, but we also know that it's geared
(14:45):
more towards women than any other marginalized group. So it's
kind of this level of like but also, as I've seen,
like many other way things, the minute like you come
off of it, the likelihood of you gaining that weight
back is really high, and then some in an even
more unhealthy way, like the dramatic change.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I also really am sad for people.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And I say this because I went through a whole
weight loss stuff with well Future, and when I was
taking it from my depression and I was like, hell, yeah,
I look good, I'm finally down. This is the best
medicine in the world. And then I started having heart palpitations.
I might never never mind, never mind, I can't do that.
But for a minute I felt amazing because of the
way I looked, because of the things that I could
(15:29):
wear and feel more confident in, and so like there's
this level of wanting to be in that place again.
But at the same time, when I gained it all back,
because I neavitally gained it all back, the people who
stopped complimenting me, the people who you know, was all
about telling me how look great I looked every time
they saw me, immediately stopped. And it was so noticeable
(15:50):
to me that it like it kind of I wanted
to come out even less after that fact, you know,
but like this level of conversation is like are you
going to be Can people beyond it? For the remainder
of their life. Is the supply going to meet the demand?
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Is it healthy?
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Because I've also hard people having heart trouble due to
some of these complications with a medication, Like some people
have more reactions. Apparently Asian people have a really harsh
reaction or no reaction to met Foreman, which is one of.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Those drugs as well.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
So I was like, oh, really, I didn't know that,
Like it's all these conversations were being had, but again
everything is being released so quickly, and then coming back
to like what happens if we do go backtrack, because
like is the money marketing scheme.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
They want you to be on it for a while.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
The industry in itself wants you to be on it
permanently so they can have that subscription service being paid
out all the time. So it is this really fine
line to get to. And then seeing people who once
were really positive like body positive, going into weight loss
journey and I'm like, you don't want to hate it
(16:59):
because you under stand it, but at the same time
you feel kind of sad and disappointed because those people
who were such great influences. But then at the same
time they get the pressure of like, well, there's access
to this, why don't you try this type of conversation too.
There's just it's such a deep level in conversation in
the study alone, like the scientific look at it, the
(17:20):
resource backed assessment in it all, and then also again
the implications that we see, and yeah, the tugging pull
of being people who seek perfection and feeling like having
a specific body type, looking a specific weight which is
never the standard until more recently has taken over, you know,
(17:41):
and then where do you go fall in line with
that in society.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, it's a complicated conversation in a lot of ways
because it is like you do understand why people are
(18:07):
doing it, and you don't want to judge them for it.
Like I feel like a lot of times when I
see celebrities who have lost a lot of weight, now
I'm like, oh, and it's not a good Like that's
their decision, right, And like you said, there's a lot
of pressure. There's a lot of push to do that,
but it does feel very disheartening in some ways. But
(18:29):
then you're like, oh, I can't pin that all on them,
So it's just like a mess. It's like a whole
tangle of emotion.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Where do we go with this, Yeah, there is, and
we do definitely want to talk about it because also
how do we have this discussion and also we have
to talk about the fact that the main spiriteness behind
these conversations as well in judgments, there's the damned if
you do, damned if you don't, and people with good
(18:57):
intentions are still doing really like harmful rhetoric in these
conversations too. And we could say that about the same
thing with the plastic surgery. I just saw someone who
I hadn't seen, like a celebrity in years and whatever
work she has that done amazing, like blown away about
how good it looks. But at the same time, I'm sad,
(19:21):
yeah that, you know, like she can't just be but
you can tell in what she speaks and how she
speaks she feels great and she feels like she can
come out and doing, you know, even though she looks
this good. I'm telling you, she looks like she's in
her thirties, like and she's in her fifties. I'm like, well, damn,
(19:43):
but now we know part of this conversation. When she
was an it girl back then, she's no longer the
it girl. Now she's the Grandma. Now she's like, you know,
all these characters that she never thought she'd have to
play or never thought about playing, and now she's back
to that. And even with looking that good, she will
never be place in a younger role type of thing.
It's such a like blatant tight rope that people have
(20:08):
to ride and not knowing how to do this. But
at the same time, the changes are very significant and
people notice it and can't help but notice it. Yeah,
so how do you walk that line? It's such a
hard place in this whole depth of conversation.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Oh yeah, I mean people are waiting for women to fail.
I believe that they are waiting for you. They're going
to make fun of you as you get older, and
they're going to make fun of you if you take
steps to look like you haven't gotten older. I believe
that completely. And I guess that goes back to the
(20:43):
point I was trying to make is that the societal
part is what really gives me anxiety more than like
a personal like a person I know doing it. It's
that I get. I understand why they're doing it because
of these pressures. It makes sense. I get why actors
(21:03):
do it, and especially women actors do it because you
do get aged out. You're like, oh, you're thirty the grandma. Now,
I mean for a while, this was like ten years ago,
but I believe the average Oscar winning male like actor
(21:24):
was fifty something and the average Oscar winning female actor
was twenty something. Like that's a that's a pretty stark difference.
Uh So, it's like it's a reality. It's a reality
that we live in. But that's what I was really
(21:44):
hoping we were changing. And now I'm worried with this,
we're gonna go backwards. But there are people I was
reading some articles about this before we started, and there
are people who obviously who are still doing the work
and who are being the work of just being body
(22:06):
positive and like there's different types of bodies and stuff.
But there's a lot of like people out there and
resources and research still happening, so it's not all doom
and gloom. And some people were very well, we don't
know how much how much bigger this is going to get.
We're not sure, we don't know. Huh. Anyway, it's a lot.
(22:31):
It is a lot. It is a lot, and I
know people have a lot of thoughts about this. I
hope I haven't offended anybody and made very clear that
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