May 14, 2026 • 14 mins
Changes can be difficult. Anney and Samantha discuss the good and bad of change when it comes to SMNTY.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Sandy and Samantha and welcome to Stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And Never Told You production by her Radio, and welcome
to another edition of a Happy Hour. As always, if
you choose to drink, please do so responsibly. Or whatever
you're doing, do it responsibly. Samantha, are you sipping on
(00:29):
anything today?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I've got my throat coat tea as my voice is
still these.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Allergies they're kicking my butt. They really are, they really are.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, I was going to drink a beer but I
couldn't get the twist off off.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It was really embarrassing to you for four minutes and
it was a disaster.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It was horrible.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm going to go conquer it after this. I can't
let this. I mean, I'm sad that you witnessed it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
No, I found it amusing. I was more concerned that
you was going to spew everywhere. So I feel like
you had a victory.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Its sound, yeah, yeah, but anyway, because of that, I
was trying to mix things up, but I went back
to my mom's wine.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah yeah, said no you need wine?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah yeah, honestly kind of and peek behind the curtain.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
We're recording this way earlier, like this is happening.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
This recording is happening close to our last Happy Hour recording,
so well, the wine was still there. But uh, this
episode is kind of a sad one, but we did
want to address it. Listeners, you may have noticed that
(01:50):
we have changed our outro uh, and that's because super
producer Christina and contruder Joey have moved on to better things.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm sure I'm excited to see what they'll do. Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
This doesn't mean that we'll never be hearing from them again.
We still have to finish out our Twilight episodes.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
For instance.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
We've already talked with them about that we're gonna be
at Twilight Sex and the City maybe like we got
things mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, we've been in contact, and you know, that's the
thing is that they were such a huge part of
this show and what it is and how it got
to reach this point, especially with Samantha and I.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Uh, and they are our friends.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So it's not it's it's you know, we're gonna be
in touch with them outside of this, but it's still
I was thinking about this because I work so much
A lot of times, that's how I kind of contact
people are see people is through work, but we are
friendly also through work, which I've I'm given to understand,
(03:02):
is not something.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Gen Z really does anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We kind of talked about that in I think one
of our gen Z dating episodes, because it used to
be you might meet somebody at your office that you
wanted to date. But anyway, a lot of my coworkers
are my friends genuinely, and Christina and Joey I would
(03:27):
consider in that category. And just because they're not working
with us anymore, that doesn't mean they aren't friends anymore, obviously,
but it is just kind of sad.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's like a change.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's a I won't get to interact with you as
much as I previously was. Yeah, we would meet up
and hang out with them. I feel like we got
each other in a lot of ways, like we.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Kind of understood.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Our specific behaviors and thought like the way we view
the world. And it does feel strange, like any kind
of transition like this feels very odd.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
But it does feel strange.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
To see their names or something in a work format
and know that you know they're not working with you anymore.
It feels strange to not credit them at the end,
especially when they had so much to do with shaping
what the show is. And I think, you know, Christina
(04:36):
is always going to be our super producer, even if
she's not currently producing the show, because she had so
much to do with getting it to where it is now.
And yeah, she's just always a super producer in our hearts.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And in reality.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And Joey was fantastic with the topics they brought. It's
always had great nerdy conversations with them personally.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Ye had amazing long conversations where I just nodded enjoyed
the enthusiasm. Yes, yeah, I think in general they made
us whole as a show because we started it was
a brand new adventure for all of us, and we
had you know, super producer Andrew at that point in time,
(05:29):
and then when we switched and not he was amazing
for the show, but obviously he knew and we knew like,
this is not for Sisman in general, and so having
Christina step in, having you know, Maya, who is still
our executive producer, and then having Joey be a part
of our community, it felt whole as a show, like
(05:50):
it felt realized in person like in our team. So
there was something to that that completion, especially because we
were all seemingly on the same page and what the
direction of the show was and how I wanted to
look and understood what it needed. Whether it's the guests
that Christina brought on, or whether it was the topics
(06:14):
that Joey wanted to discuss, it was something that made
us have these perspectives that felt whole, that felt.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Very put together.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So having them no longer a part of that, it
does feel a little incomplete. An he has done you
have done a phenomenal job in redoing the ending our outro,
but I know it's been difficult because it is it's
not only a habit or you know, something that you
or have been used to for five six years, but
(06:44):
it's also something that was a part of our show,
like in its physicality, in its presence. So it feels
like something's missing right now, even though again Producer Casey
amazing and ultro with this in this so so easy
(07:04):
to swing into that, but there was something to that
having them being a completion part of our team. So
it does like and I don't want to use that
like their family, because I don't. We don't advocate that
your work should be family. You should not it should
be separated, but having bonds within those spaces is beautiful too,
(07:25):
if you can. It's truly something special that's so different.
It's something that you always remember. It come back to,
whether it's talking about memories, whether talking about the past
and we did that not too long ago, getting together,
or talking with them, like remembering things as it began.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So it does.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
It's something as a chapter that it feels abruptly ended.
It is. It is one of those things that we
were reflecting on because we have to keep moving, we
have to continue, but it doesn't mean that we're not
missing them. And they're okay, y'all, They're okay, yeah, oh yeah, Christina.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And like the way Possible said, there was some relief
because we do publish a lot and it is a
stressful job.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And I say that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Knowing full well we are very privileged and very lucky.
But you know, it's like it's something that never ends,
and it is something to say. Christina came along pretty
soon after you did. She was a pandemic higher and
so she came in at a time of like strife, honestly,
(08:43):
like you were new and then she came in and
we just really were able to make things work, and
it is kind of odd to explain to somebody after
a year, six years of working together as a team,
(09:05):
like oh this means this, or oh we always do
it this way, or oh this is Christina did it
like this?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I don't know. There's just something to.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What we built and when you are outside of that
trying to explain it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And I think this is a.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Point of We've talked about this before, but when somebody,
somebody moves on to a different job, you often realize
how much more they were doing or like, how much
more they are adding that you didn't quite know. But yeah,
that that was something I've definitely been feeling, and I,
(09:52):
you know, it's kind of a painful thing in general
for me. I've talked about this before when things change
and people move in and out of your life in
certain positions. Because again, we're gonna be friends. I don't
think that's going to change.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And they're going to come back on the show, there's
no doubt in my mind. But it's just like a
change and it feels very.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
To me.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I'm kind of a person who like makes a big
deal out of these things, but it.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Feels very what if we lose touch and I never
see her again, what will it be?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And it also just doing a podcast with somebody can
feel very intimate.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Christina knows a lot about.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Us, right.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
She does, Yeah, she does.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
But we're so lucky to work with such amazing people,
Like genuinely, I'm shocked at how lucky.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
We are and we were, and obviously I hope for
the best.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It can feel for me sometimes I'll like shut down
when somebody moves on to another job or something, or
they even if they talk about it, because I'm like, oh, no,
I don't want you to leave, but I want you
to have better options if you found something that's really
calling to you. Right, But that can feel it's very selfish,
(11:29):
but I do experience it of the like.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh, I don't want you to leave, though it's true. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, But all that being said, some things there's a
lot of transition happening right now.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Some things are going.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
To be paused while we figured some of this stuff out,
like sex and the city, which I know I'm sorry
to think is cursed.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Maybe keep trying to finish it out. And we had
plans and then we had to quickly abort. Yeah, but
we won't forget it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yes, it's just never once again paused for now. The
fiction is paused for now, but none of this is forgotten.
And I would recommend, you know, follow Christina and Joey
and see what they're up to.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
We'll report back and they will be back.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I've got to see how this Twilight Bending plays out,
and they're both going to be involved in it absolutely, yes, yes, yes, yes,
So just wanted to give that update and wanted to
say thank you to both of them for making this
show what it is. I remember, I've been through a
(12:54):
lot of changes working on this show, and I remember
when Kristen left. When Kristen left, I'll don't get emotional,
hm ah yah. I just really think it's important to
(13:15):
shout out the work that they did.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Because it did meet a lot and we'll miss it.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
M h.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I tried not to get emotional answers and and so on.
I said, this happens to me all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Oh gosh, but we really I'm proud of what we
made together. Yes, yes, thank you listeners for being here.
We appreciate you so much and we do hope to.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
See you and we also have to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You can email us at Hello at Steffaneverortold You dot com.
You can find us on Blue Sky at mom Stuff podcast,
or on Instagram and TikTok at.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Stuff I Never Told You. We're also on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
We have some merchandise at gom bureau, and we have
a book you can get wherever you get your books.
Thanks as always to producer Casey for helping us out
and executive producer Maya, and thanks to you for listening.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Stuff I've Never Told You is production of iHeart Radio.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
For more podcast on my Heart Radio, you can check
out the R radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you
listen to your favorite shows.
Hey, this is Sandy and Samantha and welcome to Stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
And Never Told You production by her Radio, and welcome
to another edition of a Happy Hour. As always, if
you choose to drink, please do so responsibly. Or whatever
you're doing, do it responsibly. Samantha, are you sipping on
(00:29):
anything today?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
I've got my throat coat tea as my voice is
still these.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Allergies they're kicking my butt. They really are, they really are.
What about you?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, I was going to drink a beer but I
couldn't get the twist off off.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It was really embarrassing to you for four minutes and
it was a disaster.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It was horrible.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm going to go conquer it after this. I can't
let this. I mean, I'm sad that you witnessed it.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
No, I found it amusing. I was more concerned that
you was going to spew everywhere. So I feel like
you had a victory.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Its sound, yeah, yeah, but anyway, because of that, I
was trying to mix things up, but I went back
to my mom's wine.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah yeah, said no you need wine?
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yeah yeah, honestly kind of and peek behind the curtain.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
We're recording this way earlier, like this is happening.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
This recording is happening close to our last Happy Hour recording,
so well, the wine was still there. But uh, this
episode is kind of a sad one, but we did
want to address it. Listeners, you may have noticed that
(01:50):
we have changed our outro uh, and that's because super
producer Christina and contruder Joey have moved on to better things.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm sure I'm excited to see what they'll do. Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
This doesn't mean that we'll never be hearing from them again.
We still have to finish out our Twilight episodes.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
For instance.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
We've already talked with them about that we're gonna be
at Twilight Sex and the City maybe like we got
things mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, we've been in contact, and you know, that's the
thing is that they were such a huge part of
this show and what it is and how it got
to reach this point, especially with Samantha and I.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Uh, and they are our friends.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
So it's not it's it's you know, we're gonna be
in touch with them outside of this, but it's still
I was thinking about this because I work so much
A lot of times, that's how I kind of contact
people are see people is through work, but we are
friendly also through work, which I've I'm given to understand,
(03:02):
is not something.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Gen Z really does anymore.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
We kind of talked about that in I think one
of our gen Z dating episodes, because it used to
be you might meet somebody at your office that you
wanted to date. But anyway, a lot of my coworkers
are my friends genuinely, and Christina and Joey I would
(03:27):
consider in that category. And just because they're not working
with us anymore, that doesn't mean they aren't friends anymore, obviously,
but it is just kind of sad.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's like a change.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It's a I won't get to interact with you as
much as I previously was. Yeah, we would meet up
and hang out with them. I feel like we got
each other in a lot of ways, like we.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Kind of understood.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Our specific behaviors and thought like the way we view
the world. And it does feel strange, like any kind
of transition like this feels very odd.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
But it does feel strange.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
To see their names or something in a work format
and know that you know they're not working with you anymore.
It feels strange to not credit them at the end,
especially when they had so much to do with shaping
what the show is. And I think, you know, Christina
(04:36):
is always going to be our super producer, even if
she's not currently producing the show, because she had so
much to do with getting it to where it is now.
And yeah, she's just always a super producer in our hearts.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
And in reality.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And Joey was fantastic with the topics they brought. It's
always had great nerdy conversations with them personally.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Ye had amazing long conversations where I just nodded enjoyed
the enthusiasm. Yes, yeah, I think in general they made
us whole as a show because we started it was
a brand new adventure for all of us, and we
had you know, super producer Andrew at that point in time,
(05:29):
and then when we switched and not he was amazing
for the show, but obviously he knew and we knew like,
this is not for Sisman in general, and so having
Christina step in, having you know, Maya, who is still
our executive producer, and then having Joey be a part
of our community, it felt whole as a show, like
(05:50):
it felt realized in person like in our team. So
there was something to that that completion, especially because we
were all seemingly on the same page and what the
direction of the show was and how I wanted to
look and understood what it needed. Whether it's the guests
that Christina brought on, or whether it was the topics
(06:14):
that Joey wanted to discuss, it was something that made
us have these perspectives that felt whole, that felt.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Very put together.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So having them no longer a part of that, it
does feel a little incomplete. An he has done you
have done a phenomenal job in redoing the ending our outro,
but I know it's been difficult because it is it's
not only a habit or you know, something that you
or have been used to for five six years, but
(06:44):
it's also something that was a part of our show,
like in its physicality, in its presence. So it feels
like something's missing right now, even though again Producer Casey
amazing and ultro with this in this so so easy
(07:04):
to swing into that, but there was something to that
having them being a completion part of our team. So
it does like and I don't want to use that
like their family, because I don't. We don't advocate that
your work should be family. You should not it should
be separated, but having bonds within those spaces is beautiful too,
(07:25):
if you can. It's truly something special that's so different.
It's something that you always remember. It come back to,
whether it's talking about memories, whether talking about the past
and we did that not too long ago, getting together,
or talking with them, like remembering things as it began.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
So it does.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
It's something as a chapter that it feels abruptly ended.
It is. It is one of those things that we
were reflecting on because we have to keep moving, we
have to continue, but it doesn't mean that we're not
missing them. And they're okay, y'all, They're okay, yeah, oh yeah, Christina.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And like the way Possible said, there was some relief
because we do publish a lot and it is a
stressful job.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
And I say that.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Knowing full well we are very privileged and very lucky.
But you know, it's like it's something that never ends,
and it is something to say. Christina came along pretty
soon after you did. She was a pandemic higher and
so she came in at a time of like strife, honestly,
(08:43):
like you were new and then she came in and
we just really were able to make things work, and
it is kind of odd to explain to somebody after
a year, six years of working together as a team,
(09:05):
like oh this means this, or oh we always do
it this way, or oh this is Christina did it
like this?
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I don't know. There's just something to.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What we built and when you are outside of that
trying to explain it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
And I think this is a.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Point of We've talked about this before, but when somebody,
somebody moves on to a different job, you often realize
how much more they were doing or like, how much
more they are adding that you didn't quite know. But yeah,
that that was something I've definitely been feeling, and I,
(09:52):
you know, it's kind of a painful thing in general
for me. I've talked about this before when things change
and people move in and out of your life in
certain positions. Because again, we're gonna be friends. I don't
think that's going to change.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And they're going to come back on the show, there's
no doubt in my mind. But it's just like a
change and it feels very.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
To me.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I'm kind of a person who like makes a big
deal out of these things, but it.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Feels very what if we lose touch and I never
see her again, what will it be?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And it also just doing a podcast with somebody can
feel very intimate.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Christina knows a lot about.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Us, right.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
She does, Yeah, she does.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
But we're so lucky to work with such amazing people,
Like genuinely, I'm shocked at how lucky.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
We are and we were, and obviously I hope for
the best.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
It can feel for me sometimes I'll like shut down
when somebody moves on to another job or something, or
they even if they talk about it, because I'm like, oh, no,
I don't want you to leave, but I want you
to have better options if you found something that's really
calling to you. Right, But that can feel it's very selfish,
(11:29):
but I do experience it of the like.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Oh, I don't want you to leave, though it's true. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, But all that being said, some things there's a
lot of transition happening right now.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Some things are going.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
To be paused while we figured some of this stuff out,
like sex and the city, which I know I'm sorry
to think is cursed.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Maybe keep trying to finish it out. And we had
plans and then we had to quickly abort. Yeah, but
we won't forget it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yes, it's just never once again paused for now. The
fiction is paused for now, but none of this is forgotten.
And I would recommend, you know, follow Christina and Joey
and see what they're up to.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
We'll report back and they will be back.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I've got to see how this Twilight Bending plays out,
and they're both going to be involved in it absolutely, yes, yes, yes, yes,
So just wanted to give that update and wanted to
say thank you to both of them for making this
show what it is. I remember, I've been through a
(12:54):
lot of changes working on this show, and I remember
when Kristen left. When Kristen left, I'll don't get emotional,
hm ah yah. I just really think it's important to
(13:15):
shout out the work that they did.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Because it did meet a lot and we'll miss it.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
M h.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
I tried not to get emotional answers and and so on.
I said, this happens to me all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Oh gosh, but we really I'm proud of what we
made together. Yes, yes, thank you listeners for being here.
We appreciate you so much and we do hope to.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
See you and we also have to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
You can email us at Hello at Steffaneverortold You dot com.
You can find us on Blue Sky at mom Stuff podcast,
or on Instagram and TikTok at.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Stuff I Never Told You. We're also on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
We have some merchandise at gom bureau, and we have
a book you can get wherever you get your books.
Thanks as always to producer Casey for helping us out
and executive producer Maya, and thanks to you for listening.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Stuff I've Never Told You is production of iHeart Radio.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
For more podcast on my Heart Radio, you can check
out the R radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you
listen to your favorite shows.
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