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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Okay, this is Annie and Smanna and welcome to stuff
I never told your production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
And welcome to another edition of Happy Hour. If you're
doing Happy hour things, do so responsibly. Annie. Are you
doing Happy Hour things? Got your red wine?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yes? Well no? Oh oh, let's see. I have the
beer I tried to open last week and it was
a shameful A different cans, a different can, but I
just had to. I was so ashamed of the whole
thing that Samantha watched me struggle with this for four
minutes trying to open a twist off cap. So I
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just wanted to prove I could do it. So, uh,
just a nice light beer for now.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Did you open it? Yeah? You opening previously? Okay, okay,
nicely that nicely done.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
No, I did it on I want you to know,
right in front.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Of you out of I'm not gonna die out of video,
so I couldn't mind. I could have already opened it.
Oh no, you know you can have predone it too.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
No, don't do this.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Sorry, I'm sorry. I just I can't verify. I couldn't
be on a stand. What I could say was I
saw she had a beer. I didn't really notice if
the tab was on or not, and then she pulled
it off camera.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I'm sorry, this hurts me. I was trying to redeem myself.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You were, and you did it too quickly and not
on not on camera, on video.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I don't have to read this next week, but for now,
I am drinking my throat coat and citron Asian tea
together because these allergies will not leave me, y'all. It's
just it's a constant right now. Like I'm doing the
flimmy things. It's not cute, it's not cute. I guess
this might be my voice now. Well I don't know.
(02:08):
We'll see, but with that, who knows. But speaking of
happy hour ish things, Annie, we have to remind them that, yes,
we will be on a Virgin Voyages voyage from October
second through the seventh, and we would love for you
to come and join us. I'm pretty sure we're going
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to have our own little happy hour at that time.
We will be with other podcasts because this is a
whole thing called Stuff at Sea where we get to
have five nights of adult only time together. You can
see us doing a live podcast episode. You could see
the other podcasters do their live podcasts as well. You
can join us for some hanging time. I'm sure some
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fun activities will be planned, so yes, join us. And
if you are interested on going on this voyage with us,
you can visit Virgin Voyages dot com slash stuff to
get information and all of that. So we hope to
see you there. Oh this is twenty twenty six just
in case. Yes, I don't think I said twenty twenty six.
If it's past twenty twenty six, you're too late.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We had a great time and be missed out.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But yeah, so this happy hour, I decided I wanted
to talk a little bit about gardening. Yeah, I know
I'm on a whole role about this, but specifically about
community gardens because as we just recently had the episode
about gardening and women, you know, we got to talk
about victory gardens, we got to talk about community gardens,
We got to talk about sustainability and how really it
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is important to have this kind of community and any
have you ever had a community garden.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Like a CSA?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Is that what they're called, Well, yes, CSA, but also
like around your neighborhood that you can have like areas
where you have your little plots or just actually just
go out there and plant together and harvest as a
crew as a small neighborhood community.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
H not really. I've known people who have gardens that
I've helped with the gardens and they give away because
they'll have like a ton of zucchini or something, which
I love, and that's amazing. But I don't think I've
ever had kind of the communal aspect necessarily.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah. Well, I find it interesting because in my community
when I lived over my old neighborhood over the west
side of Atlanta, if you know, you know, they did
try to have a community garden, and for one season
they had it and it was pretty interesting. I was
really excited to see about it. You could become a
part of it, help cultivate it, provide and then like
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you can kind of gather vegetables together. And then it
just kind of went away. There was a whole battle
about the area and the land because it was I
think city owned at that time, and someone was trying
to sell it. It was an old whole thing. I
have seen other community gardens out and about, and I'm
very jealous about those community gardens, and it seems to
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be in areas that are a little more afflo or
up and coming, so it might not have already been
established because I feel like the older generations don't care
about this, and you can kind of have hear about
our talk about victory gardens and that kind of how
that went out of play. I think this has a
little to do with that. But the younger generations, probably
our age or younger who are really like, you know what,
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this isn'tind of cool, let's do this. So I feel
like millennials really came back together and been like, we
want some of this, we want some of this. So
it does seem like it's a neighborhoods that are a
little more up and coming younger generation in this time.
It is a lot to upkeep. We know that there's
a lot of disappointment when we have like animal infestation
conversations about how to use, what types of pesticides to use,
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what types of fertilizer you use. Because there's a lot
in this conversation about environmental impact and all of that
and being sustainable and doing good practices. So it is
something that I'm like, it takes a lot of research.
It takes a lot of research, but if it's done well,
it's a really beautiful thing to see. And I'm wondering, like,
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are we back because I feel like maybe it's because
I'm not in a neighborhood. I'm not in an affluent neighborhood.
I'm in a neighborhood with the older people who've been
living here since the eighties and are a lot more
urban than in all of the other areas. So that's
not an importance. We don't have vacant lots like that
in this area. So but I would love to be
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a part of a community that has this type of
opportunity that when in that area that I told you about,
had a random peach tree and I didn't know if
it belonged to anybody, I really wanted to because it
was just like a following off. I was like, can
I steal? Is it stealing if I take some of
these peaches?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Because there was like four four peach trees.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yes, there's like maybe two or three two or three
peach trees that were actually producing fruit.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
I know.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
There's like a someone's house near me. They have a
sign up that's like be responsible, but you could have
some Oh, And I know that in some places. That's
kind of a thing is like, you know, this tree
is going to give me way more than I can
ever use. Right, don't like ruin it and take everything,
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but right you can have some.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, And that's the thing, Like I wish we
could do that. Like I have a giant fig tree
in the back and there's no way that I could
get to the top of it to get the figs.
But like when I get it, we kind of just
hold them in a way, though, what do we do?
What do we do? And if you don't make things
out of it, you just have a bunch of figs.
And I'm like, I do I give do? Who do
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I give them? And then I had a lot of
tomatoes last year, so I was trying to get not tons,
but enough to share with some neighbors. I could give
them a couple.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I gave you a couple.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I'm like, here's these, yeah, because I really really want
to share them. But it's such a great idea and
there's so many benefits to this, Like as I was
we were researching it. First of all, we're talking about
teaching younger generations about farming and gardening and how important
that is. It teaches about sustainability, it teaches about climate change,
it teaches about food security. So there's so much like
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to be granted in that it helps. We've talked about
for women and health. It helps physically and mentally to
be a part of a garden, to be able to
put your hands in dirt and to create something and
to cultivate something. There's economic benefits because it helps your
food budgets if you're able to grow your own all
these things, because I typically had been willing to pay
a good amount of money for freshly grown tomatoes, like
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there's nothing better at a farmer's market, and I also
want to help them, you know, in there, but like
being able to buy myself instead of paying two dollars
per small tomato. You know, there's there's a beautiful thing.
There's environmental benefits. We talked about intercropping, We're talking about permaculture,
like those are things that could really help with the soils,
talking about different ways to keep it sustained and to
continue to help lands. There's so much in this thing
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that I'm like, why aren't we doing more of this?
In fact, though, are we going to have to come
back and start doing more of this? Because I think
we are having this bigger conversation about the fact I
just saw a post about someone talking about the fact
that Costco has already said they know when cost benefits,
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and then like people are really cutting back they see
the patterns of the recession. At first they cut out
beef and go for chicken and pork, and then they
cut that out and start going for can foods because
they're more sustainable and more affordable. Like, there's this level
of what we're seeing and like apparently grocery stores like
Costco are preparing for that type of storage and that
type of buyout, and this is where we are, So
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we're going to start losing I think, more and more
accessibility to fresh produce and fresh vegetables. So why don't
we go ahead and take that up as a community.
So I find it one alarming alarming that a that
we haven't already done this, b that we're having to
do this like both those things. Yeah, and then how
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do we do it for those who can do it themselves?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah, because the conversation is an old one, but a
lot of foods that are being called out as like, oh,
this is so unhealthy, why do people eat this? It's
because it's cheap and it's quick, and that's how you
get it. People want I believe, fresh vegetables or fresh produce,
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but it has been out of reach for them either
because of price or because of cooking time or Yeah,
because you can reach a good point I assume from
people I know with your garden, where it's not that
much of a time suck, but it is kind of
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the beginning when you're like learning and you're getting the
space and you're getting the stuff that you need. So
it's just kind of another time thing in your day
and that you might not especially if you have kids, right,
like two jobs, whatever it might be that you might
not have time for. So yeah, it is a question
of how do we make it more accessible for people
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who maybe don't have the time or don't have the money.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
It's interesting because as also we know costly gardening can
be costly to get the good stuff, to get the
which is absurd. Yeah, in a way, there really is
if you start thinking about but we just want to
use the land to grow our own food. Yeah, it
shouldn't be this costly, which if we wanted to be
a conspiracy theory slash honestly way more political. We can
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talk about how the government did make this costly, including
making sure that it was harder to plant and to
grow these things yourself, so you had to buy from
specific people, had to use specific pesticide, had to use
specific fertilize, continue to buy the same things repeatedly because
you can only grow at once type of thing and
you can't germany yourself. Again, that's a whole different episode.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
And just the health of the soil.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yes, again the episode. Anyway, all that's to say, there's
a lot to that, but it is it can be costly.
I was looking at one website about how you know,
how do you do this? How can you do this?
Then this is from urbanharvest dot org and they say
one of the first things is that it costs around
from a fifteen hundred to four thousand to initially start
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up something so to even like begin a garden. So
if you till the land, if you had to take
trees down, if you had to get like in order
to get the sun that you need to get all
the seas, to get the fertilizer, to get the right equipment.
It takes a lot of money and it it seems
absurd so that's just the beginning cost. So even just
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doing out the gate is kind of hard, and then
you have probably four hundred dollars a year, five hundred.
How however, bigger garden is to keep it up. I
know friend previous co hosts, Caroline, they put a lot
of money in their garden and it's gorgeous. Like I'm jealous.
They got all kinds of white like greenhouses and shade
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and planters and all the talked about kill earlier, they
had tons of kill. They always have kill enough to
help like put on a whole dinner for a group
of people. I'm like, well, damn, so I'm definitely jealous
of that. But at the same time, like it is
a lot of effort, like every weekend a lot of
times she's like, yeah, we're in the garden. Yeah, we're
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maintain in the backyard. And I'm like, I don't I
don't want that. I want to do this ten minutes
a day where I'll go and like plant something, maybe
maybe an hour every other day where I go and
water things, plant things up. No hour sounds like excessive.
Thirty minutes every other day.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Yeah, my mom her, she has a beautiful garden, it's
mostly their herbs, mostly flowers, And every time might I
call her, she's like, I can't. The rain has to
come because I can't spend any more time out there.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yeah, and that's the other conversation. Now, we're in a
pretty deep drought here in the South. We had a
whole fire go out down South Georgia and uh, North Florida,
so there was a lot going down. I know, California
has to felt that. We've talked about the avocados, like
the avocado industry was really hurting at one point because
of this. The wine industry was really hurting, the different
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types of produce really hurting at this point, not because
of these severe droughts. And with the severe droughts, we
have to stop using the water because we have to
maintain the water. But then we have the AI data
centers that are using millions of gallons of water without paying,
and this clean water, essentially it's not like wasted water.
So I'm really yeah, I feel like there's a better
system for this anyway. With that, there's a lot in
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this conversation that we have to look into, But with this,
it feels like it should be something that we should
look at. As a sustainable thing in general community gardens,
especially because once again, not everyone can do this. Not
everyone has the land to do this, not everyone has
the time to do this. Not everyone has the physical
capability to do this. Not everyone has the mental capability
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to do this. If I lose more plants then get them,
I might not have a mental capacity. But with all
of that, I think it's something that we need to
come back and look at. We needed to talk about this.
I think there's so many like as I have been
really focused on gardening the last month, I have seen
more and more leaders and people who are talking about this,
especially women in this industry, in this community, talking about
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how to do this sustainably, how to do this responsibly,
and how to do this affordably with accessibility. So we're
going to keep looking into this. But here's a big
thing for those of you out there who are a
part of community gardens, who want to start community gardens,
who have started community gardens, let us know what are
some of the things that you think we should know
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as a whole group of people, as a lot larger
conversation that we need to know about community gardens. How
should we start it? Should we start it. What should
we be looking at?
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