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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Sanny and Samantha and welcome to stuff.
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I am.
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Actually I needed extra caffeine today, so I made myself
a dirty chai Ooh.
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You heard it.
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A friend of mine, an Indian friend of mine, gave
me a great recommendation from the close Indian store that
we go to for somosas, so I got those and
then added it with my shot of espresso and sea milk. Yeah,
I'm fancy, fancy, fancy, don't worry about me.
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What you doing?
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What you sip it all?
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I have got my classic to box red wine. I
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And also the weather is appropriate for the topic of today,
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So today we are doing something I haven't done in
a while, which is I'm going to give some quick
hits reviews of some horror movies that I've seen recently.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah, it's that season, it is, apparently it is August.
A lot of horror movies lately, and they're doing really well,
like sometimes better than blockbusters.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
They're well reviewed.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
A lot of them are really well reviewed, which reminder,
we're not talking about it today. But Obsession is our
movie pick August. It has just recently come out, so
that will be as spoiled Saturdays. But this is if
you want to watch it before we do the episode,
here's your chance. I will say it is a horror
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movie and it is upsetting a lot of ways, but.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I can't wait to talk about it. So yeah, I
do love horror movies. I have been watching so many
horror movies right now. There have been a lot that
have been coming out, I think since May, and I
believe that this is demonstrative of our levels of anxiety
and stress right now, because people, as counterintuitive as it
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might seem to someone who doesn't like horror, people who
are stressed who like horror, they find it as a
stress relief because it's like chemically it helps you deal
with that kind of stress in a safe way. So
there's just so many horror movies happening, and I have
so many thoughts about them and the picks I have today.
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I tried to choose ones that do have something interesting
when it comes to an intersectional feminist lens. I'm also
trying to avoid spoilers, So all these movies are pretty recent,
but the it's mostly like trailer level talk I'm going
to be discussing. But if you want to avoid that,
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I can. The movies we're talking about today are Leviticus, Saccharine,
They Will Kill You very briefly, Undertone, and Red Rooms,
and then Honorable mentioned Companion and back Rooms. So if
you really don't want to be spoiled on any of those,
if you've avoided the trailer or whatever that come back later,
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we'll be waiting.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
We'll be waiting.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
So yeah, the first one is Leviticus. So. Leviticus is
a queer horror movie that came out during Pride Month,
which I did appreciate. I was very worried it was
going to be extremely upsetting, so I didn't see it
in theaters. I wanted to see it in like my
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home base in case it was really upsetting, because i'd
kind of heard what it was about. Essentially, it follows
two young gay boys who they live in this really religious.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Town and uh their one their parents.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Slash kind of community figures out that they're gay. They
put them through this ritual, and the whichual makes it
so that you're haunted by I would say, demon that
looks like the person you're into. So it looks like
the person you're attracted to you or in love with
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or whatever, and they attack you and try to kill you,
and they can only the demon can only do that
when you're alone. So that's kind of the premise of
what's happening in there. And I knew it was going
to have a lot of religious overtones. I am not
familiar enough with the Bible to know that Leviticus is
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I guess the part that they used to justify that
you should be queer.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Yes, is one of the books of the Old Testament.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Okay, so I didn't know that. I watched it last night.
This is so this is fresh my mind.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
I will say.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
That based on my queer abating experience, people were saying
watch this movie. And I can see why they said
it after I watched it. But yes, so there's a
lot of stuff around the religious like overtones, not accepting queerness,
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believing you're broken for being queer, and being told that.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
You know it was.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
At one point, the mother of one of the characters
is trying to frame it as I'm trying to protect
you because being queer is not safe. But it was
the religious ceremony that made him very much not safe.
And it reminded me of kind of the conversation around
conversion therapy or extorcism, this being something is wrong with you,
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we can cure you, and then being alone with homophobia
because that whole idea of you can't the demon can't
attack you unless you're alone, and if you're with someone
then you're safe. So this is sort of this threat
of solidarity that I thought it was really interesting. So
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that's what I'll say about that one without spoiling everything
that happens. But I'll tell you this, it wasn't as
depressing as I thought it would be. Okay, yeah, it
actually it generally wasn't. I was going in like, I
want to be somebody that's gonna get a text from me.
You won't believe what I put myself through when he
did this to me.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
But it was it was not that bad. So, m
all right.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
This brings us to Saccharin. This one comes with a
trigger warning. I would really really urge caution watching this
one if you have any disordered eating or anything close
to it any anxiety about weight. I have to say
I'm glad I watched this movie, but I was incredibly
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uncomfortable during most of it, which I think is what
it was going for. But I just if you have
like a disorder reading or something, I would be very careful.
This is a movie that has been compared to The Substance,
which we have done an episode on if you would
like to go back and check that one out. But
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it's it was kind of framed as a horror movie
that is in response to the rise of ozembic and
we go V culture, And so the plot of.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
This one is.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
The main character has a crush on the person who
like runs the gem, who is very much in shape
and she's not as in shape. She works in a
lab like studying bodies and health and stuff like that,
and she comes across this pill that is promised to
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help you lose a lot of weight, and when she
like looks into it and does a test on it,
she discovers that it's the human remains, yes, which is
in the trailer.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
So yeah, yeah, that's what I remember of that.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's human remains. And then
she does take it and continues to take it and
that kind of results in a haunting of the person
whose remains she is ingesting. Oh yeah, but it's very
like Visceral in terms of the eating scenes.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
And I liked it.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
I did enjoy it. It was a really rough watch
for me. There are still some things I'm grappling with, like, well,
what are we trying to say there that I'm like, hmmm,
because it is you know, that sort of messaging of
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you know, fat is evil. That Becausette seems to be
how she thinks, but then they kind of have a message.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Of fat is evil.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
I'm not sure I have to I'm gonna have to, Like,
I'm still thinking about that. The ending was also like whoa,
I saw it coming, but I didn't see it coming
in the specific way that it happened.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, so there's that one. Uh, they will kill you.
I had heard about this. I watched it kind of
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on a whim. I'm so glad I did.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
It's so fun and so weird.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It's it's kind of not people put it in a
horror movie category. I would say it's more of a
very strange action movie.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
This is the one where she's like ready to go
she's like, oh, okay, let's go. Yeah, it has Tom
Helton in it, or Felton, Tom Felton, Yes, okay.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Okay, yeah, it's it's like a kill Bill movie with
a cult aspect, but it has very bizarre horror movie
elements that I think I thought were really fun and strange,
like you can't anticipate where it's going, okay, I.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Can't even better.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
But I included it because everybody I've shown it to
has really loved it. I have one friend who, in particular,
is trying to slowly get into horror movies, and I
thought this was a nice like I wouldn't call it
a horror movie personally, but it's adjacent okay, and a
nice like dip your toe in, And she really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I love the actress, so.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
Yeah, it's so fun. I really enjoy it. I think
it's great.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I also love that, and I know some people really
don't like this, but I kind of like that. She's
like a messy heroine in terms of she's really competent
and good, but she also like just takes a hit
and gets back up and go, like she's not like
always missing every hit. Yeah, so I enjoyed that.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
I think it was.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I thought it was very fun. Okay, okay, so those
are my main ones I wanted to break down. I
did want to go over briefly some random podcast movies
horror movies, because you know, we like to talk about
when podcast shows up in media as we should. Yes,
the big one that I think I mentioned on the
show recently is Undertone. This actually came out a long
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time ago, but it just started streaming on more popular services.
So this is another one that I was like, didn't
this come out like three years ago? But uh so,
this is it's a pandemic movie. It's very clear. It's
a pandemic movie where a woman has a podcast with.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Her best friend.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
But her best friend has now moved to London and
she's in Canada, so they are they're in different time zones,
so she records at three am her time, and she's
kind of always perpetually a little tired, and her mom
has a terminal illness. She's taking care of her mom
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and they do it. So honestly, like I could just
turn this into like all the funny things as a podcaster,
was like, this is absolutely not how that would go.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
I would know it was a ghost immediately. There's no
way people live calling it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
No, no, wait, they still do that.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
I really thought it wasn't give them credit thinking that
obviously they're doing it.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Well now, no, we don't do live calls people.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Well not only that, like some shows do that, but
you have to tell people you're going to do that
in advance, and then for them to like when they're
getting these calls and they how they have listened. Anyway,
that's not the point. It is something that I get
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derailed with every time I show some of this movie.
What I thought was interesting about this movie, it's a
couple of things because it's sort of like the mother
daughter tension and then the tension of pregnancy and an
entity possibly wanting your baby. Because the way it's set
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up is they have a listener right in with ten emails,
and as they go over the emails that react to
them and it gets worse and worse. So they're listening
what happens to this couple, and those things start to
happen in her life and she's extremely isolated. And I
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do think the end scene is very good, like a
lot of it podcasting, Maybe somebody who isn't in podcasts
wonn't have so many like but I did enjoy it,
don't get me wrong. But I also do find it
fascinating how many horror movies we're seen lately that are
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men writing about women and about women's issues that star
only women. I think that's a bigger conversation. But this
movie is essentially her and her mom and then occasionally
the podcaster friend on the phone, and it's about like
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pregnancy and her relationship with her mom. And he wrote
it because I h he had gone through his parent
had been really ill during the pandemic. So I don't know,
I'm just curious. I think there's something to look into there.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
No, I agree.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
There's also the French movie Red Rooms, which is a
pretty brutal look into true crime podcasts and they're like
really intense fans. So it involves a character who is
just so obsessed with this true crime podcast and figuring
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it out. She wants to be the one who figures
out what happened, and she's also kind of into the killer.
Oh and she's willing to pay, Like she goes into
internet dark rooms and pays a lot of money to
see the actual like videos of what happened. You as
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the viewer, don't see them, I'll say, okay, but you
see her reaction to it.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
So that really stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And it is like a lot of the lighting is
in red, so it's visually striking. So there's that one
honorable mentions, just briefly because Bridget brought it up. I
did want to say Companion, which I know you haven't seen, Samantha.
I also wouldn't say this is a horror movie, but
it does have kind of some horror movie elements and
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I really don't want to spoil it, but I do
think we should watch it someday. And it also has
a lot of like discussion about toxic masculinity and stuff
like that that we discussed on this show all the time,
right right right, Yes. And then I wanted to briefly
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mention back Rooms only because a twenty four it became
this whole thing where they were trying to stop like
fan art around back rooms, but that really backfired in
a lot of ways. Sure, because of the origins of
back Rooms, which is like this huge YouTube series if
you didn't know it, and the creator was like, let
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them be.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
And I only bring that.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Up because I know some of you wrote it in
about house fan fiction, legal and all this stuff, and
some of I mean, some of the arguments are essentially
it's not but companies, no, it doesn't. It's not a
good look. I would argue that if it's transformative enough,
it's legal and it is protected under the law. But
I can't say because I haven't seen the fan art
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in question. But that was a whole kerfuffle, and I
know some of you have written into me about this before,
so that's that is what I will say there. I
did watch that movie and I felt like I was
in a fever dream. But I think it's supposed to
feel like that. This was the one preview as all,
which was very nothing. It just kept doing the rewind things.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
So I'm like, I feel like this is one of
those things like Severance where you're not sure what's going
on till the end. Even then it just opens up
and more like for the sequel or the next saver. Yeah,
I will ask have you seen Noma Slay no previous
about this?
Speaker 4 (20:19):
All right?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
This when you were talking about men is two Indian men.
They actually have a nickname Rish and Kaniche is the name.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
They go by for their debut.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
This is their debut.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I believe it's a horror satire about yoga essentially, and
they do have an Indian woman as the star and
then also white people. But it's gonna throw that out
and I think you need to watch that and tell
me about it.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
I'm always worried.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
I try my best with you, but I'm always worried
I give you bad recommendations and you won't trust my
judgment anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I trust it after the fact because I feel like
you're scared enough. That's the reason I trust you, because
you're gonna go overboard telling me and I'm like, oh,
it wasn't that bad, but in your mind, like.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
You understand so, but nonma slay. I feel like it's
something that.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
I would want to watch because yes, it is actually
created by Indian people as well as like an Indian actress,
which I'm glad to see. And it's supposed to be
satire about how yoga community has been colonized, which by
the way, also leads to we need to talk about
some of these new forms of exercise.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yes, different episode, but I want you, I need you
to investigate this specific movie when it comes out. I
think it's gonna be in theaters first.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Okay, let me know. I mean usually I find out
about these things. I have seen so many horror movies.
Like before, I've seen the bigger movies. Lately, I've just yeah,
horror movies, horror movies, horror movies. So yeah, if just
let me know and I don't go, I'll be your
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person report back.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
That's what I need.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
There's actually another movie I brought up recently. Oh, I
can't remember the name of it. It's something like Eat,
Pray Love, but it is a takedown also on.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Like white yoga culture.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it was interesting because it's also like
that kind of new influencer genre of horror movies because
she was an influencer or she was trying to be
an influencer.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Ton't go well, didn't go well according to the movie.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
No listeners. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
If you have any horror movies you think that we
would like, If you want recommendations, I will send them
to you.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
I have a list.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
If you're worried about like should I watch this, I
can give you more details and I'm there. I'm your
horror movie person. Yes, just just let us know.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Let her know.
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