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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to stuff
I never told you a production by Heart Radio, and
welcome to one of our last episodes of twenty twenty four,
which means we thought we would do some end of
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the year favorite episodes that we've done, kind of a
wrap up, a look back as we like to do.
So this one will probably be a bit shorter, but
it was interesting looking back. I know we've said it before,
but we do a lot of stuff and when I
look back over a year, I'm always kind of surprised
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that all of that happened in one year, so we
had a lot to choose. From that being said, we
thought we would break it up based on are segments,
starting with book Club, which she asked. As we've said before,
this is one I always appreciate because I do read
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a lot that I don't read a lot of books,
but this segment kind of changed changed that for me,
and I'm really grateful for it because I've read a
bunch of stuff that made me think and stuck with me.
So what was your favorite book Club episode? Sanantha?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
So I think I know you and I shared one favorite.
I will hold off on that one for a minute,
But like why in I actually thought of this not
too long ago because I was thinking about some of
the plot of it and like the back and forth
and the character and the person discovering her idol in
this one like place that I went back.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And forth like is this a dream? Is she dreaming this?
This is real?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
But that novel, especially with everything that's coming out of
South Korea and the conversations that are happening, especially about
writers because one of the women novelists won a Nobel
Prize for her writing and she was the first Korean
woman to do so, and that type of narrative, like,
it's such a unique way of telling a story, such
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a unique subject. Although you it's probably fan fiction world
probably has this kind of subject, but to be actually
published and to see it being like noted as a
published novel and recognize is unique. So I was thinking
about that one. That one was like something that just
stuck like forever, like I just think about every now
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and agains out of nowhere because the way I pictured
that book, do you do that?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Is that just me?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
That one was a very It was a very visceral
book in a lot of ways, like the imagery of it.
I remember the cicadas specifically, Yeah, of course you did, Yes,
of course, twenty twenty four Are You're a b Cicadas?
But it was it was like a fever dream. You
weren't sure what entirely was real, and it pulled you
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in and made you feel uncomfortable, but in like the
way that I'm like, I'm good, I need to think
about this. I need to think about this.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
So it stuck with me as well, and it is
interesting to me because of the fan fiction aspect, of course.
And I recently had a friend because if you don't
remember why N stands for like your name, so you
put your name in to the fan fiction and you'll
usually be partnered with somebody. And I had someone who
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was like one of my favorite authors wrote a hy
N and I was so surprised, and I tried to
read it and I just couldn't do it because usually
you like replace your name in it. Yeah, but it
was really interesting how it was written and what it
was looking into in terms of fandom, and just like
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kind of the religious aspect of fandom that I can yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And then the second book is Lolo Woods, which was
our kind of first graphic novel with Marvel.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Right, Ooh, that's hard to say, because I feel like
we do so many where we like throughout suggestions and
then maybe not pick them, right.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I think it was I think we were trying. I
think we were trying to purposely find a comic and
we wanted something because it was kind of horror. But
at the same time, it was also a Latin American
Appreciation month, and so this hit everything. And then like,
I also think of this because what show or movie
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was reminiscent Blink Twice?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
The movie Blink Twice is very reminiscent.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
There's something else that I just watched that I was like, oh,
this feels like the same prep anyways, I because it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I've never seen Twice, so I can't be that bit
for me.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But like there are things that I'm like, oh, I
see the similarities here, and the conversations here, and just
kind of that level of like haunting and manipulation of
women and all of that which maybe was just reality
and it was just too close, but it was such
great art artistry, such a deep tale and such a
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dark tale that I was like, this is amazing. Yeah,
And I really really loved everything about that comic.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
I did too that that was my pick as well.
We did that one prior to October. We didn't get
to do one in a book in October because we
were so busy, but it did it fit and it
was written by someone who I'd seen on a lot
of like horror authors you need to be reading lists,
and I was so excited we finally got to do
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one by her, Carmen Maria Machado, and it was just
very starkly illustrated and the coloring was so there's so
much contrast in it. And I loved the story and
like the complexities of it because in the end you
kind of don't know, uh the choice one of the
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characters makes of to remember or to forget. And it
had a lot of like friendship front and center, which
I love. It had like which stuff, which I love.
I loved it. I think it was fantastic good.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
It suffered me too, you know what, I kind of
have to put the cookbook in the Diasporrican that we
just featured, I just I don't know. I think, like
anything that has such depth with their heritage, it speaks
to me. And also because the food was tasty. That's
a nonmorable mention on here. So if y'all haven't gotten
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that book or listened to that episode, you really should
because it was fun and it's very interactive if you cook.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Yes, yes, that was a good one. My honorable mention
is Hummingbird, which was just such a delightful, beautiful book
and it bought me and Samantha near tears. It was
so sweet. Oh gosh, I just loved it so much.
It was such a nice It was just nice. It
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was so nice, so I you know, sometimes we just
need something that is very supportive and kind and nice
in that way.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It was feel good without like infantilizing anyone. Yes, and yeah,
it was very like. The plot was different and I
love that m m.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
It had like a lot of magical elements, kind of
fairy tale elements, and I sort of love at the
end it was like, I'm Some people were like, I'm good.
I don't need this. Wish I did it myself. It
was just a really nice message. I loved it.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
I did, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
What about feminist movie Friday? We do love movies here
on spin Tea.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
We do.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
We sometimes we do more than one a month because
we love them.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, and I'm picking one that we did a couple
of because we are not finished with the saga. No,
I've already talked to Joey about this, talked about it
with Christina as in fact, when you were gone on
Joey duty, Christina and I had a whole Q and A.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
About it, Twilight, all of the Twilights.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And I'm saying this as like a whole saga because
it is delightful. It is a cult classic and it
re emerges. I feel like maybe just never goes away.
It's just a classic. But yeah, we do need to
finish it out any We do need to finish it out.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
But I love talking about it.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I love the joy it brings when I remember everything
to it. Thus far, like the controversies on it are
not so problematic, and I say that with bita bruth.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
But all of that to say is yes.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I think, of course Twilight is going to hit at
the top of the top of the realm. Also love
a good like when we do any classics that becomes
her do not hold.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Up well, but you know, still a classic.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, yeah, that was a fun one. That was a
fun one.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I do.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
I do enjoy the Twilight Ones. It's fun for me
because I get to see like people nerd out about it.
I'm usually on the other side of it, so I
like being like, oh, okay, I can't wait to finish
it out. I think it's fun. We're planning it. It's
just difficult because we do want to get some people,
other people involved, like Christine and Joey. Just the timing
scheduling of it. Yeah, but I'm ready. It keeps popping
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up on my streaming like you haven't finished this.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yet, as it should, that telling you what you've got
to do.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yes, well, hopefully soon, hopefully soon. Mine is I love
the one we did on Bottoms with Joey. I loved
that movie. I showed it to a bunch of people
after we did it. It was just a really fun,
strange movie.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And we go and we.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Got to have Joey come on and talk about it,
and that was really great because once again it was
it's fun to see somebody passionate about something and love
something talk about it. So I really loved that. And
then I'm gonna be like kind of bold and say
one we haven't done yet, but I'm gonna say the substance,
which is a Spoiled Saturday. I think that was kind
of be fun.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I haven't watched it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I've also said that
to so many people.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
By the time this comes out, I've seen it.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yes, yes, I'll tell you next year how I feel
about it.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
It's a New Year's movie. It's very exciting. Yeah, that
one's gonna be fun. That one's gonna be fun. Wow.
So Samantha guess, wells for you feminists around the world.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Y'all, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So when we talk about doing these, I don't know
what's been in what year, So I'm hoping that I
didn't slip up and put in something from like three
years ago.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I'm sure it didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But like we've done a lot, We've done a lot
of feminists and activists throughout our years. This year, you
know what, every year we talk about like transactivists as well.
But I think it's so important that we keep talking
about it. One of the ones that I liked we
did was the trans Nonprofits episode, and again it was
very short. We highlighted a few of the NGOs that
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exist around the world and why they're important, especially with
the anti trans movement's happening. We talked about my sister's
house that's located in Memphis, Tennessee. We've talked about Black
and Pink National, which is also an organization around here,
or you can go to Black and Pink dot org.
It was i think released in April for Trans Visibility Day,
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So if you want to go back and listen, try
to find that episode because we do highlight a few
of the Great Organization's trans lifeline all those that you
should try to go and look up and then I'm
sure they will link you to like local areas to
help the trans community. Because it's really important that we
stick together in this conversation, especially when it comes to intersectionality.
With that, I think our conversation about Sarah McBride, featuring
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her not only as an activist and an advocate, but
about the controversy surrounding her, even though it's not exactly
on par with what we typically do for this segment,
having that conversation was really important and still important. We
saw friend of the show Cal Willis recently and a
group of transactivists go have a sit in at the
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Capital trying to talk about the need in this conversation
of why what Sarah McBride, the scrutiny that she's under
is important and we have to talk about today. We
know a lot of Supreme Court stuff is coming out
as well soon and a little bit nervous about that.
But having that kind of conversation during these segments I
think is important. But of course with that we would
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talk about someone like Theodora del Carmen Vasquez, who who
was a reproductive activist, reproductive right activist, and she came
out in support of the US. I believe she lived
in Alsovadore, and she's a big proponent of reproductive right
and justice, and she made sure like she tried to
comfort the US and American people with what she went
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through and how hard she fights for her country. So
when you see people like that who fight for us,
you can't help but remember why these people are so
important and why remembering people all over the world is important.
So those are gonna be by top three for now.
But you know, there's so many, we have, so many
we do.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
This is funny because I don't think it's any secret.
We've talked about it before. But usually what happens is
when we get an outline. If we're sharing, I go
in first and then do way too much and then
Samantha comes in. But I did all this stuff and
cut it all out because I was like, stick to
one Reese, I'm doing.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
You, I'm pulling at you. I give them the lessess
my turn.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I love it. Okay, that's all right. Well for fictional
women around the world, I chose Xeno Warrior Princess because
that feels like forever ago, doesn't it. But it was
this year. I did not know much about her. She
was like one of the big big feminist icons I
needed to know. She has a really fun, like fan
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fiction queer relationship that was really fun to learn about.
There were a lot of great quotes from Lucy Lawless
about her, and it was just a really really fun
one to do. And it was fun to hear from
you about your thoughts about Xeno Warrior Princess and then
me having not seen it, but having seen Young Hercules
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with Ron Gosling, where I haven't gone to the end yet,
but I'm pretty sure she shows up. We'll see I think.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
So does she time travel?
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Oh no, okay, yeah, that's not that's not like correlating.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
In my head, I was like, wait, what, okay, peek on.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Yeah, but it was just a really really fun one
and I knew that was a character so many people
cared about or really it impacted their life. So I
enjoyed the research on that episode because again it was
something I didn't I knew about, but I'd never watched,
so it was really cool.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
We have to I want Lucy Lawless on the show
one two, you need to be maybe we need to
go through quickly Sex in the City a little faster
so we can do that as a watch through. Even
though I would be like, I can't remember this because
I don't think I've watched all of them, but I
did watch quite a bit. Yeah, I love zee a
boy a princess.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, it was really fun to read about. I know,
huge cultural impacts, so baby, but man, we're going slowly
through Sex and the City, so very slow. But maybe
one day. So this brings us to what we call
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standard episodes. These are kind of our longer and more
research episodes that come out on Wednesday and Friday, although
sometimes Monday many gets thrown in there. It's not always
like clear cut, but in general we call these the
standard episodes. So Samantha, what are someone your faves?
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, thank you for qualifying that. It's not just one
that's so. But yeah, so I put like the Wildland
firefighting women because that was so fascinating to me, and
I really want to dig more into it because the
individuals that did do this, I think is fascinating, the
job in itself and the women who really pushed through.
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I know we've had a listeners like they like really
enjoyed this episode and they've had experience with us. So
we need to get somebody knowing. I think we need
to do this as an interview, honestly, and so we're
gonna put that as a asterisk. Native women in languages
again another big conversation, and I think that needs to
be We need to open that as a series. We
haven't done one this year. Have we technically the religion
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series last year? It ended into this year, right.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure we ran that as a playlist.
I know we were talking about doing it as a
playlist this year. I looked and I'm pretty sure we
did it.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Kidding, every Christmas is a Christmas sessional. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
But yeah, Native women and not just languages, but just
the amount of things that they do in order to
preserve culture and the environment. So like when we talk
about food culture and how they try to save that,
traditions uh, as well as rituals as well as medicine,
herbal living, as well as languages. So that was fascinating
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and of course doing that internationally would be a series
because we only hit into mainly the North American areas
as well as Australia, so that is not enough, so
we want to expand that. But also with that interviews,
the interviews that we do. I love doing interviews. I
love meeting new people. You know, this is a thing.
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The one with Renee Gettens from Stumbling Cat and her
game potions so much fun. We need to have her
aunt see what she's up to with her new games.
I'm sure she's creating some more stuff. And then also
Emma Grace, I can't believe you didn't mention Emma Grace,
who is what was the entomologist that came on and
talked about cicadas and then we were like, we need
to talk about the female bugs that take on the
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world essentially, which we we do need to come back to.
But like those are so much and there's so many more.
We've had so many great interviews just recently with Maria, like,
so many great conversations the private eyes, like it's good,
it's good, and those were some of my favorite ones
to do in feature.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yes, And going off of that, I would say when
I was choosing for this, a lot of Bridget's episodes
came out. Yeah, Bridget does always a great job when
she comes on. One of the ones that stood out
to me is what's missing from the online discourse on tradwives,
which is still really relevant and really important, as with
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almost all of her episodes, alright, Yeah, I really liked
the Lena image as well. And then when we have Eves,
come on Eves, there's always the delights. So she just
does such a great job. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Yeah, the fascinating history of some of the what we
call firsts and that as a caveat, it's so good
and I love listening to her talk about it because
it sounds like we should be writing a script from movie.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Every time.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Yeah, every time, I'm like, I am ashamed and angry
that I didn't know more about this or anything about
this previously. And then I will say selfishly, I have
really enjoyed still doing the fiction episodes we do, and
we got we recently kind of hit a milestone of
one the end of Part two in the beginning of
Part three, and the beginning of part three is such
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a downer, and I liked that people wrote in and
were like, oh, yes, I'm into this. That made me
so happy. But yeah, yeah, we always do love all
of the different subjects we get to cover, all of
the people we get to have on, all the people
we get to work with that make this show, and
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all of you listeners who give us suggestions or resources
all of that stuff, because you know, having this many
episodes come out, it is a lot, so we really
appreciate it and we have learned a lot. These things
stick with us too, absolutely they do. So thank you
to everyone who has been on the show, everyone who
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works on the show, and all of you who listen
to the show. We appreciate you, and we would love
if you wrote in and let us know if you
have any favorites or if you have anything that you
really want to see or hear in the coming year.
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