May 4, 2026 • 15 mins
In this classic episode, let's talk about Ruth Shady, a woman who is putting Indiana Jones to shame.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hey, Sanny and Samantha, I'm not going to stuff I
never told you prediction by her video and we have
another classic for you. It is an actress around the
world that is still up to some cool stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, so we wanted to bring back doctor of Ruth
Shady who was still doing her thing. We have called
her kind of like our Indiana Jones, our Indiana Jones,
and she is still out there doing an archaeological dig
as in fact, in twenty twenty five, they discovered a
giant city by the way, as well as a pretty
(00:44):
well preserved burial of a.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Woman who was wealthy.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
They said, so they've got a lot of interesting information
with all of this, and this was just again, I
believe July or June of twenty twenty five. I will
say they have hit some roadblocks because of budget cuts.
So at one point she was talking about the fact
that she had to lay off a part of her
crew because of those giant budget cuts. But they're still
(01:12):
going through it. They actually had a twenty they actually
had a celebration in November of twenty twenty four because
they have been doing this for thirty years, so they've
been here trying to discover all of this history in Peru,
and cool enough, they did do a twenty minute documentary
victoring doctor Shady about what is happening. So yeah, really
(01:32):
really fun to see how this continues.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yes, absolutely, and listeners please enjoy this classic episode.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Hey, this is Danny and Samantha and welcome to Steff.
I never told your production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well Hello Anie, Hello, happy Monday.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yes we are recording on a Monday, so happy Monday
to you as well. But that means we're a little
uh space today.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yes, yes, we have discovered as we have been attempting
to record this for the last three minutes, we may
be a little tired and or really have the mondays
I said it, But today we want to go ahead
and put a timestep on this because not necessarily anything's
going to change, but there's actually a lot happening with
this specific woman that we're about to talk to for
(02:32):
our edition of Women around the World. That sounded weird,
That was not the theme. I want to ignore that, okay,
But anyway, it is March twenty second, twenty twenty one,
and though she has already made pretty big impression in
the world and in just science in general, and history.
We want to put this caveat in here because there's
(02:52):
a lot of articles coming out about her project if
you're paying attention to what she's doing. So that's why
I'm timestamping it. And yes, we will tell you it
is in just a minute. But first Annie, Yes, I
got a question for you. Oh, I already know this answer,
but it's a two parter, okay, So the second part
I feel like I already know the answer because I
think we've talked about it before, but I'm gon go
ahead and jump in here.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
A Were you a huge fan of movies like Indiana Jones?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Actually the answer to that is interesting because I've only
seen those movies of once each, okay, and I can't
recall really why I didn't go into them more, because
I loved, as you all know, the Mummy, right I love.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I don't yeah, I don't know. I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I was just like, you know what, I'm more into
the Star Wars Lane than if I gotta choose a
hair some forward movie.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Then this is that was Oh Holly Fry, who is
also the big Star Wars fan. One of the times
that I had gone out with her during our adventures
in any of the Disney Worland Disney World locations. We
went to one of the Indiana Jones themed ones, and
when I could not name anything and she explained things,
she looked really sad.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen that look.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, and she was just like like the little sign
and just like Samantha Samantha, and.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That's all she said.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So, Okay, I feel better knowing that you were maybe
in the same spot as me.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But here's the second part of that question.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Anything with like the Mummy and obviously again with Indiana Jones.
Did you ever have any experiences and or any fantasies
of being someone who was in the Archaeology World or
in that history, Discovery World, Adventure World.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I think I was born too,
Like this is different, but to me similar in my
kid brain. I was born into like paleontology and like fossils,
like dinosaurs and finding.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And I had like a little kid for like we
spoke about one of our recent classics. I would go
out in the woods and I would find like one
time I found this mailbox and I was like unearthing
it as if it was kind But that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, So we had an experience in our I guess
middle school, elementary school and time frame. They had this
whole like initiative going on, trying to bring in these
kids that was remained together for the next three years
and learning different things. And one of our big projects
was actually doing an archaeological dig site behind the school playground,
and we actually discovered a village, a small a Native
(05:27):
American village to the point that we got to see
some desist.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Because we found like pole marks, and we found all.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Of this pottery shards, and we found all of these
like arrowheads and weapons in it was a true small
town village, like we found where all the posts were,
where the homes were. And then we had to keep
it for several years because several archaeologists came out and
helped dig up the site.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And so because of this, it was really sad because
we worked on this so hard. It was such an
amazing project. I will never forget it. They transferred our
class to a different location to start up another location
to see if we could find more stuff, and of
course it wasn't as cool as we found things. But
not a town, right, not a small like area living area.
(06:12):
So I was very sad and we got to take
it off that project, but it was one of the
most like what moments when we started finding all of
these amazing items and things and finding out that we
actually were sitting on something really historical and sad because
of course our relationships with the Native Americans were really
sad because they were killed and or pushed out. So
(06:37):
a lot of really sad things, but cool things at
the same time because you're discovering all.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
These things, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, And one of the reasons we are talking about
this specific woman and we're talking about doctor ruth A
Shade or ruth A Shade Solis, who is a Peruvian
archaeologist and anthropologist and overall bad ass.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So if you have a to go look at her work.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It is phenomenal that Shady was born in kal Yao,
Peru and has always had this love of the world
of archaeology, so again kind of like fostered into her.
And in one interview she actually talks about visiting different
archaeological sites as a child with our father, and she
talked about really honing in and deciding this is going
to be my career at the age of like eight
(07:23):
or nine, because her dad not only took her to
these sites, but would gift her and her siblings books
of all this historical contexts and him having this love
for archaeology and history. Her father influenced them with again
his own love for history and discovering older cultures. And
I believe he moved to Peru with the family and
in talking about how Peru was the center of civilization
(07:45):
for them, So it was really interesting to see all
this history as she was talking about her own childhood
and why she loves what she loves.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Right and yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Shaddy studied both archaeology and anthropology as well as pedagogy
and Lima at San Marcos University, where she became a
teacher and is currently Vice Dean of Research at the
Faculty of Social Sciences. She has been the head of
many projects, including projects in Marenga, Lima and Bagua, Amazonas
and some others. And though these projects are interesting, what
(08:16):
she's currently being celebrated for is her work with the
Keral Soupe Special Archaeological Project. She is currently the director
of the many research teams at the Keral Archaeological Site
or the Koral Archaeological Zone and.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Just in case you didn't know, because I definitely did,
and that Keral is known as the first civilization of
the entire American continent and is located several miles outside
of Peru, and the civilization is dated back five thousand years,
which is two thousand years older than the Mayan civilization.
But her roja discovering and preserving the civilization was a
long and is actually a long battle, which started in
(08:52):
nineteen seventy eight when she visited that area, but wasn't
until nineteen ninety four that she and a team of
four others started working at that site. And not surprisingly,
she went through her share of disappointments and hope throughout
the project, and she talked about all the difficult conditions,
support from the government some of the times, and being
ignored by the government and oftentimes her own colleagues. As
(09:14):
some suggested her theories of the large civilization was just
quote an exaggeration.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
The Kerral civilization is fascinating because, unlike so many other
discovered civilizations, this was not a warlike society, as there
were no traces of weapons or defensive walls within the city.
The civilization was covered by gravel and pebbles before it
was abandoned, which helped preserve the area. They were also
seemingly ahead of our times as they maintained gender equality.
(09:53):
During the dig, they discovered remains of a woman dated
four six hundred years ago, and she was apparently all
zacked out. They discovered a shell necklace, bone brooches, and
blankets made of cotton and other materials. Shaddy stated, we
can interpret that some four thy six hundred years before present,
women had already reached significant positions in society. The brooches,
(10:14):
in particular, carved into bird and monkey designs, point to
quote a woman of prestige right.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And along with those discoveries they also found flutes and
all these instruments. So it must have been a very
artistic world and civilization which I want to be a
part of. But when talking about her works in regards
to Kerral, she talked about the significance of how the
discovery could impact the local community and she stated, quote,
we wanted these people to identify with the heritage and
(10:40):
accepted as theirs. As a source of identity and cohesion.
She worked with the community by organizing a participative workshop
to promote integral sustainable development, and she spoke of the
significance of the project overall, stating quote, the worldwide response
to the values of Korl civilization has encouraged us. Soha
has our ability convey to current and feature societies the
(11:02):
importance of peaceful social interactions between people with different cultures
and languages who exchange resources, products, experiences and knowledge produced
in the Indian territory, which is itself immensely varied, this
intercultural relationship favored back Cuterall's social system enabled it to
develop very early in the northern central area of Peru.
This is a valuable message for modern society as nowadays
(11:24):
military action and behavior are still ubiquitous, which is entirely
counterproductive of the millions of years of human evolution. In
the six thousand years of establishing complex civilizations, we have
failed to strengthen our human identity and preserving living conditions
on Earth. We need to reflect on this to avoid
exterminating ourselves. And of course I'm also thrilled to be
able to improve the quality of life of the populations
(11:46):
around Keral and train archaeologists with a different vision who
can appreciate the diverse social reality of.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Peru and not unlike Indiana Jones. She has gone through
some trauma and danger between having threats made against her
by what is being reported as squatters, but seems to
be a more a deeper conflict with people who are
trying to claim the area to develop the land, and
so they may be stroying the site out of hate.
Some of the sites have been destroyed and some of
(12:12):
the mummies and items have been destroyed, legal battles from
former colleagues who have tried to claim her work or
leave her out in documentation, and even being shot in
early two thousands on the site, and the land was
declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site in two thousand and nine,
by the way, and she's currently experiencing a lot of
(12:33):
pressure and threats from those squatters, which are believed to
be made up of those who are claiming that they
were given the land in the nineteen seventies. And not
only has she and her team been receiving texts, but
people who are involved as the legal advisors, and even
the possibility of her dog being poisoned as a threat.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
When we say poisoned, they killed their dog.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So it's pretty intense and there has been a lot
of support by many academics and those in the historical
world and science world, with and letters being sent out
to the government for her and her team's protection.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Today.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I know right now there are so many articles coming
out about what's happening there because there has been an
all out threat against her as well as the actual
excavation site. They're having to have police protection around it
and all of these things. And there's also a question
about why haven't they been found, Why haven't they been
arrested at this point, because you kind of know what's
(13:25):
going on, and there seems to be, of course, a
lot of money involved in this conversation.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Who has the rights to what?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And of course she is working to preserve it, so
for those who want to develop the land to sell
it kind of puts a kink in their plan. So
does feel like a straight out mystery or a straight
out suspense thriller?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Me?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay, maybe it's just me. Her work is been celebrated
as she continues to make history. She's been named BBC's
Top one hundred Women twenty eighteen's Loriel UNESCO's National Prize
for Women in Science. She was given the Medal of
Honor of the Congress of the Republic of Peru as well.
And obviously we are talking about what she's done and
continues to do, and her love and passion in preserving
(14:10):
history and bringing things to light. She hasn't talked about
how as a woman in this field it has been
a struggle, but how persevering and being able to fight
for what you know has been there. So she's known
this something has been there since nineteen seventy four and
has fought for it, and then it was actually celebrating
in the two thousands.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So that's badass, yes.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
But ass very badass indeed, and continues to be.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So we'll see what happens in the meantime.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
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Hey, Sanny and Samantha, I'm not going to stuff I
never told you prediction by her video and we have
another classic for you. It is an actress around the
world that is still up to some cool stuff.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, so we wanted to bring back doctor of Ruth
Shady who was still doing her thing. We have called
her kind of like our Indiana Jones, our Indiana Jones,
and she is still out there doing an archaeological dig
as in fact, in twenty twenty five, they discovered a
giant city by the way, as well as a pretty
(00:44):
well preserved burial of a.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Woman who was wealthy.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
They said, so they've got a lot of interesting information
with all of this, and this was just again, I
believe July or June of twenty twenty five. I will
say they have hit some roadblocks because of budget cuts.
So at one point she was talking about the fact
that she had to lay off a part of her
crew because of those giant budget cuts. But they're still
(01:12):
going through it. They actually had a twenty they actually
had a celebration in November of twenty twenty four because
they have been doing this for thirty years, so they've
been here trying to discover all of this history in Peru,
and cool enough, they did do a twenty minute documentary
victoring doctor Shady about what is happening. So yeah, really
(01:32):
really fun to see how this continues.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yes, absolutely, and listeners please enjoy this classic episode.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Hey, this is Danny and Samantha and welcome to Steff.
I never told your production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Well Hello Anie, Hello, happy Monday.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yes we are recording on a Monday, so happy Monday
to you as well. But that means we're a little
uh space today.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Yes, yes, we have discovered as we have been attempting
to record this for the last three minutes, we may
be a little tired and or really have the mondays
I said it, But today we want to go ahead
and put a timestep on this because not necessarily anything's
going to change, but there's actually a lot happening with
this specific woman that we're about to talk to for
(02:32):
our edition of Women around the World. That sounded weird,
That was not the theme. I want to ignore that, okay,
But anyway, it is March twenty second, twenty twenty one,
and though she has already made pretty big impression in
the world and in just science in general, and history.
We want to put this caveat in here because there's
(02:52):
a lot of articles coming out about her project if
you're paying attention to what she's doing. So that's why
I'm timestamping it. And yes, we will tell you it
is in just a minute. But first Annie, Yes, I
got a question for you. Oh, I already know this answer,
but it's a two parter, okay, So the second part
I feel like I already know the answer because I
think we've talked about it before, but I'm gon go
ahead and jump in here.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
A Were you a huge fan of movies like Indiana Jones?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Actually the answer to that is interesting because I've only
seen those movies of once each, okay, and I can't
recall really why I didn't go into them more, because
I loved, as you all know, the Mummy, right I love.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
I don't yeah, I don't know. I don't know why.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I was just like, you know what, I'm more into
the Star Wars Lane than if I gotta choose a
hair some forward movie.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Then this is that was Oh Holly Fry, who is
also the big Star Wars fan. One of the times
that I had gone out with her during our adventures
in any of the Disney Worland Disney World locations. We
went to one of the Indiana Jones themed ones, and
when I could not name anything and she explained things,
she looked really sad.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen that look.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, and she was just like like the little sign
and just like Samantha Samantha, and.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That's all she said.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So, Okay, I feel better knowing that you were maybe
in the same spot as me.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
But here's the second part of that question.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Anything with like the Mummy and obviously again with Indiana Jones.
Did you ever have any experiences and or any fantasies
of being someone who was in the Archaeology World or
in that history, Discovery World, Adventure World.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I think I was born too,
Like this is different, but to me similar in my
kid brain. I was born into like paleontology and like fossils,
like dinosaurs and finding.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Stuff like that.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And I had like a little kid for like we
spoke about one of our recent classics. I would go
out in the woods and I would find like one
time I found this mailbox and I was like unearthing
it as if it was kind But that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, So we had an experience in our I guess
middle school, elementary school and time frame. They had this
whole like initiative going on, trying to bring in these
kids that was remained together for the next three years
and learning different things. And one of our big projects
was actually doing an archaeological dig site behind the school playground,
and we actually discovered a village, a small a Native
(05:27):
American village to the point that we got to see
some desist.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Because we found like pole marks, and we found all.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Of this pottery shards, and we found all of these
like arrowheads and weapons in it was a true small
town village, like we found where all the posts were,
where the homes were. And then we had to keep
it for several years because several archaeologists came out and
helped dig up the site.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
And so because of this, it was really sad because
we worked on this so hard. It was such an
amazing project. I will never forget it. They transferred our
class to a different location to start up another location
to see if we could find more stuff, and of
course it wasn't as cool as we found things. But
not a town, right, not a small like area living area.
(06:12):
So I was very sad and we got to take
it off that project, but it was one of the
most like what moments when we started finding all of
these amazing items and things and finding out that we
actually were sitting on something really historical and sad because
of course our relationships with the Native Americans were really
sad because they were killed and or pushed out. So
(06:37):
a lot of really sad things, but cool things at
the same time because you're discovering all.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
These things, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, And one of the reasons we are talking about
this specific woman and we're talking about doctor ruth A
Shade or ruth A Shade Solis, who is a Peruvian
archaeologist and anthropologist and overall bad ass.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So if you have a to go look at her work.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It is phenomenal that Shady was born in kal Yao,
Peru and has always had this love of the world
of archaeology, so again kind of like fostered into her.
And in one interview she actually talks about visiting different
archaeological sites as a child with our father, and she
talked about really honing in and deciding this is going
to be my career at the age of like eight
(07:23):
or nine, because her dad not only took her to
these sites, but would gift her and her siblings books
of all this historical contexts and him having this love
for archaeology and history. Her father influenced them with again
his own love for history and discovering older cultures. And
I believe he moved to Peru with the family and
in talking about how Peru was the center of civilization
(07:45):
for them, So it was really interesting to see all
this history as she was talking about her own childhood
and why she loves what she loves.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Right and yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
Shaddy studied both archaeology and anthropology as well as pedagogy
and Lima at San Marcos University, where she became a
teacher and is currently Vice Dean of Research at the
Faculty of Social Sciences. She has been the head of
many projects, including projects in Marenga, Lima and Bagua, Amazonas
and some others. And though these projects are interesting, what
(08:16):
she's currently being celebrated for is her work with the
Keral Soupe Special Archaeological Project. She is currently the director
of the many research teams at the Keral Archaeological Site
or the Koral Archaeological Zone and.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Just in case you didn't know, because I definitely did,
and that Keral is known as the first civilization of
the entire American continent and is located several miles outside
of Peru, and the civilization is dated back five thousand years,
which is two thousand years older than the Mayan civilization.
But her roja discovering and preserving the civilization was a
long and is actually a long battle, which started in
(08:52):
nineteen seventy eight when she visited that area, but wasn't
until nineteen ninety four that she and a team of
four others started working at that site. And not surprisingly,
she went through her share of disappointments and hope throughout
the project, and she talked about all the difficult conditions,
support from the government some of the times, and being
ignored by the government and oftentimes her own colleagues. As
(09:14):
some suggested her theories of the large civilization was just
quote an exaggeration.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
The Kerral civilization is fascinating because, unlike so many other
discovered civilizations, this was not a warlike society, as there
were no traces of weapons or defensive walls within the city.
The civilization was covered by gravel and pebbles before it
was abandoned, which helped preserve the area. They were also
seemingly ahead of our times as they maintained gender equality.
(09:53):
During the dig, they discovered remains of a woman dated
four six hundred years ago, and she was apparently all
zacked out. They discovered a shell necklace, bone brooches, and
blankets made of cotton and other materials. Shaddy stated, we
can interpret that some four thy six hundred years before present,
women had already reached significant positions in society. The brooches,
(10:14):
in particular, carved into bird and monkey designs, point to
quote a woman of prestige right.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And along with those discoveries they also found flutes and
all these instruments. So it must have been a very
artistic world and civilization which I want to be a
part of. But when talking about her works in regards
to Kerral, she talked about the significance of how the
discovery could impact the local community and she stated, quote,
we wanted these people to identify with the heritage and
(10:40):
accepted as theirs. As a source of identity and cohesion.
She worked with the community by organizing a participative workshop
to promote integral sustainable development, and she spoke of the
significance of the project overall, stating quote, the worldwide response
to the values of Korl civilization has encouraged us. Soha
has our ability convey to current and feature societies the
(11:02):
importance of peaceful social interactions between people with different cultures
and languages who exchange resources, products, experiences and knowledge produced
in the Indian territory, which is itself immensely varied, this
intercultural relationship favored back Cuterall's social system enabled it to
develop very early in the northern central area of Peru.
This is a valuable message for modern society as nowadays
(11:24):
military action and behavior are still ubiquitous, which is entirely
counterproductive of the millions of years of human evolution. In
the six thousand years of establishing complex civilizations, we have
failed to strengthen our human identity and preserving living conditions
on Earth. We need to reflect on this to avoid
exterminating ourselves. And of course I'm also thrilled to be
able to improve the quality of life of the populations
(11:46):
around Keral and train archaeologists with a different vision who
can appreciate the diverse social reality of.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Peru and not unlike Indiana Jones. She has gone through
some trauma and danger between having threats made against her
by what is being reported as squatters, but seems to
be a more a deeper conflict with people who are
trying to claim the area to develop the land, and
so they may be stroying the site out of hate.
Some of the sites have been destroyed and some of
(12:12):
the mummies and items have been destroyed, legal battles from
former colleagues who have tried to claim her work or
leave her out in documentation, and even being shot in
early two thousands on the site, and the land was
declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site in two thousand and nine,
by the way, and she's currently experiencing a lot of
(12:33):
pressure and threats from those squatters, which are believed to
be made up of those who are claiming that they
were given the land in the nineteen seventies. And not
only has she and her team been receiving texts, but
people who are involved as the legal advisors, and even
the possibility of her dog being poisoned as a threat.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
When we say poisoned, they killed their dog.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
So it's pretty intense and there has been a lot
of support by many academics and those in the historical
world and science world, with and letters being sent out
to the government for her and her team's protection.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Today.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I know right now there are so many articles coming
out about what's happening there because there has been an
all out threat against her as well as the actual
excavation site. They're having to have police protection around it
and all of these things. And there's also a question
about why haven't they been found, Why haven't they been
arrested at this point, because you kind of know what's
(13:25):
going on, and there seems to be, of course, a
lot of money involved in this conversation.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Who has the rights to what?
Speaker 2 (13:33):
And of course she is working to preserve it, so
for those who want to develop the land to sell
it kind of puts a kink in their plan. So
does feel like a straight out mystery or a straight
out suspense thriller?
Speaker 4 (13:46):
Right?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (13:48):
Me?
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Okay, maybe it's just me. Her work is been celebrated
as she continues to make history. She's been named BBC's
Top one hundred Women twenty eighteen's Loriel UNESCO's National Prize
for Women in Science. She was given the Medal of
Honor of the Congress of the Republic of Peru as well.
And obviously we are talking about what she's done and
continues to do, and her love and passion in preserving
(14:10):
history and bringing things to light. She hasn't talked about
how as a woman in this field it has been
a struggle, but how persevering and being able to fight
for what you know has been there. So she's known
this something has been there since nineteen seventy four and
has fought for it, and then it was actually celebrating
in the two thousands.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
So that's badass, yes.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
But ass very badass indeed, and continues to be.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
So we'll see what happens in the meantime.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
If you have any suggestions listeners for women we should
cover in this segment, you can email us or emails
Stuff Media mom Stuff at iHeartMedia dot com. Can find
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at Stuff I've Never Told You.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Thanks as always to our super producer.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Christina, Thank you badass, and thanks to you for listening
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