May 7, 2026 • 55 mins
In this week's listener mail segment: Poe inspires a conversation about the End of Ownership. Chewy Black Heart asks the guys for more about missing scientists. Nikki explores the Bell Witch Cave.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noah.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They goll be ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. If you are tuning
into our weekly listener mail program, The Evening of Publishers.
Welcome to May seventh, twenty twenty six. And what better
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Speaker 6 (01:32):
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Speaker 3 (01:35):
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Speaker 4 (01:37):
Also, uh, there is a secret hint in the phone
number that would show that it wasn't real. Rudebeca's way
too many, way too many letters.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
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Speaker 4 (01:48):
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Speaker 3 (01:50):
There you go. You have to pull the right cards,
and we are excited to pull some cards today. Wait,
I'm just now remembering that's an old school for fighting people.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, oh yeah, the boys in the hood are always hard.
Keep talking that trash and we'll pull your card card. Yeah, okay,
we so we already pulled cards in the episode we
just did about Teo.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh yeah, you guys. I saw one of my favorite
new things on Instagram reels, which I'm not on very often.
There was a gentleman that made an Instagram reel and
he said to the Black delegation, I hope that or
if it was basically as though it was U N
and he represented all white guys, and he asked the
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black delegation if they can bring back a saying, And
then it was responded to by a black gentleman who
was acting as the Black delegation, saying, yes, we have
looked into it. We there is no equivalent to that phrase.
We will bring it back if you are willing to
bring back you're barking up the wrong tree, buddy. And
then there was this back and forth between the different
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delegations negotiating which sayings we could bring back from the
old golden days.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
They saw a similar reel where someone was questioning, what
happened to all the shorties? How come no one's talking
about shorties anymore?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
What happened to all the shorties? What happened to all
the trees? Where are the right trees? Where where do
you bark up the right tree? Trees also means marijuana.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I think I think shorties became batties. That's exactly right,
that was the answer.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, thank you. I was.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I was digging for it, but I just decided to
leave it because I couldn't recall. And you nailed it
finger on the pulse. But then, what of the brats
with a z Well, it was brash summer.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Like if Braum it was a golden time summer.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's a linereen summer happens as well. Uh, we don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You're looking forward to short King summer.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Hey, we're looking forward to summer. We're also looking to
October second through the seventh. Please come hang out with us.
We are on a cruise that we are super excited
about from New York to the Caribbean Virgin Voyages. That's right,
it's happening, the Stuff Cruise.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yes, a stuff themed cruise with us and all of
our favorite stuff brethrens from the Stuff Days.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh yes, we will be hanging out on a ship
and in Bermuda. Why don't you join us?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Go check it out? And Stuff at Sea and by
Stuff Days, i'm referring to, of course Stuff you should
know the Mega Blockbuster podcast that it remains today. Also
a couple of nice fellas Josh and Chuck. We love
those guys and looking forward to hanging with them. We
got stuff, Mom, never told you what further stuffs do
we have?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Oh well, no, we have stuff. They don't want you
to know. Oh that's us, that's us. That's us from earlier.
Not only will you be able to see amazing exclusive
live shows, you can have excursions and you can find
us hanging out on the ship. Also, nobody snitch if
I play blackjack under an alias.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Okay, Ohmerta ben Omerta.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Oh Merta. And speaking of oh Merta, segues. We're gonna
pause for a word from our sponsors, and then we're
going to get into tonight's listener mail program. Maybe what
do you say? No? Will we start with a ghost story?
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Oh gosh, yes, And we've returned with the uh previously
mentioned ghost story from listener Niki, who wrote in worry
that maybe this would be a little too long to.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Read on the air. Pish posh, we say, NICKI, hello again, Nikki.
Here you can read this on the air, but it
may be a bit too long, I say again, pish posh.
Here we go. My Graham's basement was haunted boof just
love it just stay saying the quiet part out loud
or the loud part a little quiet. One summer when
my sisters and I were visiting her, she set up
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three beds downstairs. We figured it would be okay because
all of us were down there. We were just falling
asleep when I felt a fist slowly pushed through the
bottom of the mattress into my middle back. I ignored it. What, yeah,
that's right. Wait, that's right. What wait for it, matt
wait for it. I ignored it, which is wild? How
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could you do that? Uh? Then it pushed into my
right shoulder. I huffed, opened my eyes to stare at
the ceiling, and addressed my older sister. Ha ha, I said,
I know it's you. My older sister sat up in
bed and asked me what I was talking about. During
this time, the fist pushed against my bum whow.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No, no, don't fist bumps.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
No no, don't no, only fist fist bumps, not fist bumps.
I say, uh. Then my left shoulder. In a very shaky,
scared voice, I called to my younger sister, ha ha.
She sat up in bed again. The fist pushed against
my middle back once more. I jumped into my older
sister's bed as my younger sister did the same thing,
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all three of us in single twin bed for the
rest of the night. When I told Graham, Graham, she
hand waved us away. You were not hurt. You'll be fine.
Stop being a couple of little babies. And I had
at that part too, as if to challenge her. Later
that summer, my little sister and I were playing downstairs
with a kid's bouncy toy, perhaps a ball of some sort,
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maybe a pogo stick. She doesn't make it clear the
kind that is. Basically, oh, she does a large ball.
Opp it's a hippinie hop, guys, a large ball with
handle handles.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Hippie hop is and you hop along the floor.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
You do, indeed hop along? What could go wrong with
the hippie hop? Although you know, this reminds me of
it reminds me of little Danny Torrance riding his big
wheel down the hall of the Overlook Hotel. Something safe
and childlike and innocuous and fanciful about a big wheel.
Similar here we have the hippie hop.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
As long as there's not, you know, something sharp nearby.
A hippieie hop is very safe, That's very true.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Does seemed to have gone the way of the lawn dart.
I don't know that we see hippity hops around as
much anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
They are Yeah, well, I know a guy.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Oh good, let's let's talk let's talk after the showpin.
I bounced a couple of times, then it flew out
from underneath me as I landed on my tailbone on
the concrete. Don't hippie hop on the concrete. Still can't
sit for very long on a heart. Oh, I didn't
mean to make life. This is a long, a lifetime injury.
Still can't sit for very long on a hard surface.
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Some thirty years later. I blamed my little sister, but
she was nowhere near me at the time. Graham Graham
had her basement exercised after that. Just boom, just burying
the lead, just dropping in questions. Okay, we might have
to follow up on this one. Nikki Graham had her basement.
Actually she's not called Graham Graham. That's what she is
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to me. But I don't mean to have revised history here.
Graham had her basement exercised after that. Love list. You guys,
you make the graveyard shift better. Nicki, NICKI, thank you,
thank you. What a tale. We do have some follow ups,
and I would love to actually do that. So maybe
we'll pingyback on this email and see if we can
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get a little bit more detail around this, and that'd
be fun. For a follow up on a later listener mail.
But since we're talking about ghost stories and spooky things,
what lurk in the dark or the shadows? I would
love to recount a little text exchange I had with
a good friend of mine who I met through the show,
and her being a fan of stuff that I want
you to know, Christy from Saint Louis, who I've mentioned
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a time or two on air. Christy recently visited a
place that you've been and Tennessee might know from your
time in Tennessee. Paducah. Yes, Paduca, Yes, yes, Miss Paducah. Yes,
I know it well. I spent some time in my
youth in Paducah. I was not familiar with Paduca, but
apparently Christy and a friend of hers took a lovely
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little drive through Paduca where they went to an incredible
sounding quilt museum. She sent me some pictures from it.
Really cool like quilt picture quilt as art object, which
of course they already are. I mean, but we're not
talking about your tradition. Does ain't your Graham, This is
ain't your Graham Graham's quilt. We're talking about some seriously bespoke,
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very psychedelic quilts. Some of them were like have really
really colorful like soap bubbles and all kinds of fractal patterns,
and then of course they had classic quilts as well.
It is a historical artifact of the quilts and something
that you know, can tell the tale of people's family lines,
as described in the film How to Make an American Quilt.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And to be clear, Paducah is in Kentucky, so everybody
stop writing the email right now. It's just Tennessee. And
I are aware of it because that is an adjacent
state in Nole.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I believe we're getting there.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
We are getting to the state, and which is in Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Did not bother googling that, And I do apologize any
any Kentuckians out there. Paducah, It's very true, ben is
in Kentucky, but it is adjacent to Tennessee, which is
really where I was gushing about the quilt museum. Do
check that out if you're on a road trip that
takes you through Paduca. You might also find yourself on
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the outskirts of Nashville, which is exactly where Christy found herself,
where she and her traveling companion went to something called
the Bell Witch Cave. I don't recall if we've talked
about the Belle Witch and the bell Witch Cave on
stuff they don't want you to know. I do distinctly
remember an episode from another sister show of ours in
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the Stuff Family, stuff you missed in history class back
in the day when I used to produce that show.
Nearly certain they did an episode on the bell Witch Cave.
Do you guys know about this?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I didn't know nothing of the bell Witch.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You know, not of the bell Witch. We're about to
school you up, Matt. The bell Witch Cave is a
little outside of Nashville, I asked her. I looked it
up after she said, you know what, We'll get back
to the email, but I will just kind of give
a little bit of highlights about the bell Witch. So
the bell Witch is a haunting. A famous haunting that
occurred around the Bell family farm near Adams then Red River,
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Robertson County, Tennessee from about eighteen seventeen into the early
eighteen twenties. The principal haunting related events centered around one
John Bell Senior, his wife Lucy, and their children. The
phenomenon reported include, but are not limited to, unseen entities
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speaking and cursing those who dared cross its path, interacted
verbally with families and visitors to the farm. We're also
talking about things like physical slaps, poltergeist type stuff, punches, pinches,
hair pulling, bed shaken, sometimes described as leaving bruises on
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those who who were afflicted by these occurrences. We've also
got some other kind of poultergeisty things, talking about noises,
knocking objects, thrown or moved chains, rattling, disembodied voices, contemporary
nineteenth century newspaper items circulated locally talking about the most
influential version of the narrative. An authenticated history of the
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Bell Witch from eighteen ninety four by M. V. Ingram,
which compiles folklore and interviews over decades. So essentially what
happened is in eighteen seventeen, the Bell family in Tennessee
started experiencing all of these things that I was mentioning,
the knocking sounds, the poltergeist behavior, bed covers being ripped
off and whipped off in the night. Voices starting at
a whisper and then getting louder and louder over time.
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Voices reportedly quoting scripture, singing hymns in a sinister tone.
Apparently it had said. What this entity was saying was
that it hated John Bell, Sr. And had ill intent
laid out for this man. And that is because John
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Bell built the farm, which is located what today bears
the address four thirty Keysburg Road, is of course the
center of this myth, this legend, this lore, and has
to do with the fact that it was built in
and around some Native American burial sites and that members
of the Bell family supposedly disturbed bones from some of
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these graves. So back to Christy in her perspective on
this and her time touring what is known as the
Bell Which Cave. I asked her if anything spooky occurred
while she was there, and she said, not really, but
they told us stories of what they experienced before. And
I'm not sure if I made stuff up or heard it.
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She mentioned hearing like TV static, and I did for
a little bit, but could have just and coincidence. One
of those pattern seeking things we were talking about on
our last episode regarding the weaponized psychology of Tao and
what has it been the Benjamin Franklin syndrome.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Benjamin Franklin effect effect.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yes, of course we are pattern seeking creatures. So the
moment someone tells you maybe you should be hearing static,
your brain might introduce a little bit of static, similar
to like the placebo effect. She also said sometimes if
she whistles, a spirit will whistle back. Ooh. Per our
Appalachian Trail episode, guys, don't whistle back. Spirit whistles at you.
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Don't whistle back. Turn around, run. This is a little
bit different. But this is also in Appalachia.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Is it not been this well culturally?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yes, okay, we did get a message from a caller
that just wanted us to remind everybody if we didn't
get a chance to do it at some other point.
If you hear your name being yelled in the woods, yelled,
not whispered, you should probably fond as it may be
someone that is attempting to find you or rescue you.
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Also true, someone believes you are lost.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
True, not always spooky spirits. So when it's the police yelling,
just automatically put down your weapon, get on your knees,
and lick some boots.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Hashtag not a cop. Okay. Also, Christy goes on, there is,
as I'd mentioned, a legitimate Native American burial ground on
the property and there was a skeleton in the cave
from a woman, but someone stole the skeleton between the
nineteen seventies and the nineteen nineties, and the cave was
super cool. The tour guide said, there's a spot in
the cave where negative things have been known to happen
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to visitors, like receiving scratches, slaps, and hair pulling, y'all,
Just like I was mentioning in the reporting about the
whole bell Witch haunting. The Native American burial ground has
around sixty spots and they are each about two by three.
It's tiny because they are buried these individuals in the
fetal position with their hands and feet bound on their
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backs facing the sun. At the gift shop, they have
a binder with all the letters from people that took
rocks from the property and mailed them back because they
felt as though they were cursed. Pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, The hair pulling thing is something I've seen depicted
in films before and several TV shows that just it
creeps me out quite a bit. Just you've seen that before, right,
I can't. It's probably one of the conjuring movies. Is
probably any number of the things that you can find
right now on Netflix where you'll just see a shot
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of someone's hair being pulled up and then just kind
of yanked a bit. That happening in a way you
can't explain.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Well, sometimes it's a low ceiling.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, this is also not a big cave, you knowles
the lag tite or something like that. Whatever, No, you
know or like you know, you can catch your clothes
on things. It happens all the time. But I will say,
by way of a somewhat of a twist ending, you'll
recall John Bell and the Voice having beef with mister Bell. Well,
in eighteen twenty, John Bell died under some pretty strange
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and suspicious circumstances. A vial of a dark fluid was
found in the house, and the family, like you do,
tested it on the family cat, which died instantly. So
the Voice apparently made another appearance, claiming that she had
done the deed and poisoned him. Reading a little bit
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from a Reddit post on our parentormal What makes the
case unusual is the amount of documentation. As I'd mentioned,
there was quite a bit of writing done on the subject.
There are named witnesses, dates, and written accounts from people
who were there. Most hauntings from this era are vague
stories passed down with no names attached. This one has
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a paper trail. The bell Witch Cave in Adams, Tennessee,
is on the National Historic Registry and is, of course,
as evidenced by Christie's Journey, open to visitors. Pretty cool
and just north of there there's some There's the Red
River Campground where you can go horseback riding, stay in
some cabins, ride a canoe, check out an old fort,
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you know, so you make a day of it.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Make a day of it. Yeah, please help out your
local tourism board. Also, Tennessee is riddled with subterranean mysteries.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
What's the caverns we've been talking about. We've been off
air and I have been talking about how both of
us really want to go see a show at this
incredible kind of like the red Rocks of our region
called the caverns. You want to tell us a little
bit about that. There's actually like a subterranean venue, and
then I think a larger above ground version. There's like
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two like different sized spaces there.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes, yeah, you're absolutely correct. They are in a burst
of creativity called the Caverns. Over in Pellham Tennessee. This
is where Noel and I got very close to going
to see Explosions in the Sky, which Matt you introduced
me to as a band, and I think they're just
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the Bee's Knees.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Also, God Speedy Black Emperor did a show there that
I would have liked to go, as well as King
Gizzard and the Lizard Wizards. So it's that that's who
I was thinking of. That's okay, no no I like
explosions as well. But this boil Boy. You can go
to the Caverns dot com. There's incredible video of the caverns,
the venues and the surrounding countryside and you can camp
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and do little add ons. You can rent a yurt,
you know, do all this kind of stuff. What a
cool place. Look forward to checking it out one day.
But huge thanks to Nicky for the ghost story and
to Christy for the ghost story.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes, before we leave, can we please go back to
Nicky's Graham Graham's basements, must rams. I was definitely Graham
Graham down there right.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Oh, had to have been.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like underneath the bed, pushing up on the bed. Come on,
she snuck down there. She crawled underneath the bed and
was just breaking up.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I don't know if that's sport creepy or less. I
think it's more reminds me of that m Met Shyamalan
movie that was a little bit more small. The visitors. Yeah,
it was good. It was about visit the visit excuse me,
thank you, Ben. It was about scary old people.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
It was very great. It was not as great new
offense to m Night. It was not as great as
your phenomenal correspondence, Nikki and Christy, thank you so much. Please, folks,
be safe when you hang out in caves, and I
will say it, don't go cave diving, don't go water splunking,
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don't go chasing waterfalls. Yes, please stick to the overland
rivers and lakes that you're used to, possibly in a canoe.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And if you're going to have your hair pulled, make
sure you know who's.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Doing and have a safe word. And our safe word
for today is hard sponsor break.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And we've returned guys often on this show. We'll be
having a little chat. We'll come up with a phrase.
We'll see a proper noun, couple of words that are
strung together that seem interesting to us, and we will
say something akin to oh Wow, that would make a
great ska band, or that would be an incredible death
metal group.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Super guilty of confess.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
We all do it, I know, and it's really fun.
And you know, people who've been listening for a while,
like Chef Ben, have have clocked a few of those,
especially if we mention it specifically. But sometimes we don't
mention that we're talking about a specific band name or something.
We'll just say a phrase and someone like Chef Ben,
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we'll imagine it as a band. So let's jump to
a quick This is a compilation of eight messages sent
in by Chef Ben. The first one has nothing to
do with the band. It has to do with secret
NASA spacecraft that are up in the air. We talked
recently about a new version of one of those, the
kind that is supposed to be able to fly in
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ways that most conventional aircraft are unable to and similar
to the X thirty seven B. The first thing you're
gonna hear is about that. Then the rest are band names.
You ready to hear this, guys, gosh, yes, it's it
gonna go super fast.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Here we go, yo.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
I'm not interested until they launched the X sixty nine
call me then period that I would one hundred percent
listen to an emo band called Ghost Mama just FYI.
I would not listen to a SKA band called Severe
Dynamic Load.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Thanks No.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
I would without any reservation listen to a SKA band
called Sure As Shooting Well Done. While I would not
listen to a SKA band called The Hidden Far, I
would listen to a thrash band with that name, so
thank you for that. I would in fact listen to
a SKA band called My Secret Knife. My Secret Knife's
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second album would be called Those Motherfers Have a Godstopper Fellas.
I would absolutely one listen to an emo band called
a Ghost Stole My Underwear.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Secret Knife also's kind of emo coded. I gotta say,
like it's making me think of my chemical romance or
something like that. Maybe it's a little too brief to
properly qualify. That's what a cool one, man. Yeah, yeah,
that's great on so many levels.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
There's something very peaky blinders about My Secret Knife to me,
which is a little hidden thing somewhere in your out.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, perhaps retractable in the tip of the shoe. Yeah. Oh, guys,
I did. I did stumble upon another fun one in
the wild conversation with my girlfriend. Doom Cruise. Ooh, I
like that Doom cruise. Wait?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Is this a Doom inspired cruise much like our cruise
that we're going on, the Stuff cruise? Wait, but with
the video or no no no no no no no no.
I'm just saying, like a Doom inspired cruise would be
very cool.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Well, you know, there are all these packaged cruises these
days for like nostalgia kind of tours, like different bands.
There's metal cruises, obviously, there's podcast cruises. You want a cruise,
there's probably one out there for you.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, how about the band name Critical Juliani.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I hope he's okay, right, Yeah he's not anyway?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah, uh guy.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
That guy.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Okay, let's jump to our next caller and thank you
so much, chef Ben. Well, do you guys have anything
else to say on that one before we jump?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Just love it. I love the genreification of the whole
thing and the you know wood or wouldn't listen to rankings?
That just was a delight. Yeah. I think we had
one between our episode breaks today. It was a new
metal band called inverted jinkos.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
What no, oh fabulous, Oh God, that just brings that
makes my mind wander so much.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
What is an inverted jinko?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Well, it's a tarot card, uh in a different system.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Used to.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, yeah, though the one you made ben.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Oh, this is this is the tarot part right, white cheese,
but this is the inverted jinko. That's not going to
translate to audio. But it's Jean's Jinko's white shoes and
I guess an orange shirt but they can't see the
color red background.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It looks gorgeous. All right, we are jumping to the
phone lines to hear a message from Chewy aka black
Heart aka a bunch of other things in our phone system.
We're going by Chewey today. Chew, we just had a
couple of things that he wanted to bring to our
attention if we hadn't been thinking about them already, and
just see what we think here we go.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Ay top of the morning too. Well, this is Chewy
aka mister Blackheart. Calm. It's a few things. Have you
all heard about the assassination attempt being staged, earthquakes going
on around area fifty one, or the fact that it
isn't just high ranking officials in various fields of study
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and branches of the government going missing in the United States.
It's also happened in China as well.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
My response.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Just terrifying.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
All you can do is make sound.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You nailed it, and the yes, there is a cold
war of scientists going missing, not just in China, as
we mentioned in our recent Strange News programming, but yes,
but also in Russia. And of course yes, we have
an episode about targeting scientists in Iran. So sometimes the
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things that you do, Uncle Sam, come back to you.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, for sure. Let's jump to the first thing that
you we mentioned, the correspondence dinner and the shooting suspect
who is currently incarcerated and being charged charged with an
attempted assassination of the United States President. That's a big
deal recently. Let's see this was posted on May first
(28:54):
by PBS. It is security footage of the incident. Just
taking a look at that from camera one, Camera one
caught the whole thing. The day and time is Saturday,
twenty thirty six, let's say, around forty when the shooter
makes an entrance to this particular video and this one,
(29:16):
it is very interesting to see because it is.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
It looks.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It looks like a movie, first of all, because it's
pretty high quality security camera footage. The other thing that
makes it weird is all the stuff this suspect is
doing and all the other like police and Secret Service
and all the other folks that are there. It just
looks not real. But is that because we're just watching
(29:43):
it from a camera's perspective and it feels like a
TV show or a movie, or is it because of
the actual actions that are taken. Have you guys watched
all of this footage.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Much foot But I heard some conflicting reports as to
whether or not the suspect actually discharged his weapon or not.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It appears that the suspect did not discharge their weapon,
at least that's according to the official reporting that has
come out most recently. The only person that discharged weapon
was a police officer that you can see in the
camera footage shooting. You can see the weapon being discharged.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Which is interesting because potus as we know, this all
occurred on April twenty fifth, Right, quotus as We said
that the Secret Service agent who was shot during the
White House Correspondence Association dinner was not struck by friendly fire.
So the President of the United States is saying the
(30:44):
suspected gunman fired upon Secret Service. Also, interestingly enough, folks,
the same President of the United States claimed that he
was going to or had insiders claim that he was
going to drop a bomb on him and have a
mic drop moment at the correspondence dinners.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Did you hear what Carolyn Levitt said setting that up? Yeah,
it's almost too comical, she said. She says shots will
be fired in the room tonight, you know. And I
don't know, guys, I mean, the false flag of it all,
it strikes me a little off. It just seems like
there'd be better ways to go about it. And there's
some things that don't quite connect, like he was on
(31:26):
a different floor and I'm curious. But then their response
was so odd. The whole cadre kind of looking smirking,
like they like they like the kid that got away
with the cookie, you know what I mean, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Got to clear this up really quickly because this is
brand new. As of twenty two hours ago, CNN is
posting that quote Secret Service agent definitively shot by a
suspected gunman at White House correspondence dinner US attorney says, however,
it was a shotgun that he was wielding as he ran.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Not sure he didn't want it to be like non
lethal or he doesn't want it to be a mass
shooting event, is what this person said in their manifesto.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, thirty one year old Cole Allen.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And this information is coming from missus Piro, who has
said some other things in the past that appear to
not line up with reality. She is saying, we can
now establish that a pellet that came from the buckshot
from the defendant's Mosburg pump action shotgun was intertwined with
the fiber of the vest of the Secret Service officer.
(32:34):
And if you look at the video, it does somewhat
appear like a shot is fired at very close range
to one police officer that is standing kind of directly
in front of him as he goes through the metal
detector there. But again there's no there's no muzzle flash
as if a shot went off with that particular weapon,
(32:58):
with the shotgun, but there is a definite series of
muzzle flashes that you can see on the video from
the handgun the Secret Service officers using. So it is
very confusing. There you imagine a Mossburg shotgun. Have you
guys ever shot one of those before?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Those things serious, They're very serious. And the kickback is
pretty crazy on him. And you see this guy just
flying through a metal detector as he's running and it does.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It doesn't look like isn't it one that has any
style grip? Is that one of those types?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well you can it can be different.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Oh okay, okay, yeah. It also to that point, Chewy,
to that point, it reminds me of one of one
of the dumbest experiences I had watching the Terminator franchise,
I believe, thinking you could do that.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, yeah, I wanted to be able to do it
so bad out not a thing. Not sorry, there's actually two.
So Sarah Connor does the Chick Chick and Homeboy Terminator
has one of those ones with the cocky guy and
he flips it around and cocks it that way. So
there's two different nonsensical cocking methods that we all grew
(34:11):
up much like Barty McFly shooting off sparks, skateboarded behind
the car.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
What we're saying, Chewie, is we can suspend disbelief for
a certain threshold. This is asking a lot of belief
to be suspended. The official narrative is troubling and to
our earlier points, does not really match up with the
(34:37):
facts on the ground.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
When pivoting immediately, it's in talking points to this is
why we need that ballroom guys. And then again, I mean,
they just look so satisfied with themselves in that press
conference immediately after supposedly having a you know, a threat
on all of their lives.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
They justlektorical threat.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
They just look downright, you know, tickled pink.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, yep. I'm just going to continue that CNN article
for a second, because CNN is even trying to figure
out what reality is here amongst statements from White House
officials and you know other folks there. It says a
CNN analysis of hotel surveillance video, the one we were
just talking about, released by Piro's office last week, coupled
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with audio taken from from inside the ballroom during the shooting,
does not definitively conclude when or whether Alan fired a shot.
The audio analysis does indicate six shots in total, which
would align with the initial statements by law enforcement that
Alan fired one shot and then there were five shots
(35:43):
fired by one of the Secret Service agents that was
standing directly in front of him as he ran through.
It's just one of those weird things, as you guys
are kind of saying, it doesn't We got another couple
of messages talking about how it doesn't have to be
an orchestrated event, like the government didn't have to pay
(36:04):
this guy to go in and do this thing, or
he didn't have to be a sleeper agent, he didn't
have to be really a part of anything. All they
had to occur is that they had to allow it
to happen because it would serve a purpose for them.
In this case, they are they appear to be pretty
openly talking about what that reason is, right of why
(36:25):
it would be allowed to happen. But then you've all
you can also go to other places like PBS that
have been interviewing several people who know a lot about
the Secret Service how these kind of concentric circles of
security function at a big event and the types of
security and how you know, and this one.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Not acting like they're supposed to, like is that part
of it? Like much like in Pennsylvania where they barely
like held Trump down, like it wouldn't training dictate, they
would literally dogpile on this potus.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yes, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
It's weird to see this series of events at the
Correspondence dinner versus the series of events when his ear
was allegedly shot by a sniper. Right, and just it's
it's different, right, Let alone the footage, the footage of
mister Kennedy surrounded by like four Secret Service agents and
(37:24):
then his spouse kind of running to try and catch
up with them. Just alone and uncovered.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
And and there's an incredible shot of Steven Miller. And
I mean, you know whatever, shots are taken out of context,
but literally looks like he's using his pregnant wife as
a human shield.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Actually, even on the Daily Show, I don't mean to
saying I guess you there, Noel, But on the Daily
Show they talked about how Stephen Miller looked courageous compared
to some of the other folks that were being covered
because he was actually had his arm around his wife.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
But that's the thing I think I saw the shot
maybe take out a contact. His arm is around his wife,
but she very much in front of him.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yes, but they're running away from where the shots get
fair enough guys, okay, so let's quickly jump to the
scientists in China. You can read in Newsweek published April
twenty third of this year, Chinese scientists have been dying
mysterious deaths too. This is they're talking about several different people.
(38:26):
The July one, twenty twenty three death of someone named
Feng Yankee, a professor at the National University of Defense Technology.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Let's see, he.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Created something called a war skull platform. He had won
national competitions with this. A lot of information in here
that we're not going to be able to get to today,
but you can read about it right now. There are
several others that are being named in this article and
are being mentioned across the internet, folks who may or
(38:59):
may not, you know, have any connection together. We have
not proven that. I cannot talk about that openly right
now because I don't have all the information. But there
are some other There are some other folks there in
China that appear to be scientists, and they are dying again.
Check out that Newsweek article. Chinese scientists have been dying
(39:20):
mysterious deaths too. Last, but not least, let's jump to
these earthquakes in area fifty one guys. Popular Science has
talked about this. They in their article kind of just say, hey,
it doesn't have anything to do with nuclear testing because
it would have been detected by all these other systems.
(39:40):
Even though we just backed out. The US just backed
out of a nuclear treaty test ban treaty that we
had set up for a long time. One expired and
then we had just kind of said we don't need
to be a part of that anymore. So, theoretically, if
you were going to test nukes underground the way the
United States once did, some of the testing areas out
(40:01):
there in the Yuka Flat is a place where the
US historically tested nukes underground, so why wouldn't they use
that place? Again, Popular Science tries to make the point
that it takes a certain amount of time to get
a nuclear weapon test ready, and it takes a long time.
They're saying, you know, months and months to prepare that
(40:22):
kind of thing, and we only recently backed out of
those the nuclear test ban treaty and all this other stuff.
My only point would be, you could probably prepare for
a nuclear test way in advance and just not do
the thing until it's time to test, and you give
your given permission to do it. Just pointing that out. Now,
(40:44):
what do you guys think about this? Could it be
something else happening out in the desert?
Speaker 4 (40:50):
I mean it is a aren't there like in that
area of the country, like kind of fault act.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
There are many a fault out in that area, and
there are many a small and large earthquake. I didn't
even read the title of the article here from Popular Science,
written by Andrew Paul, published May one, twenty twenty six.
Area fifty one just had seventeen earthquakes in a single day,
and there are a ton of rumors going around the
(41:20):
social media's right now about what could it be? Is
it nuclear tests? Is it aliens, perhaps underground aliens of
some sort, you know, is it the boring company? Is
Elon Musk out there doing something? Is all kinds.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
There's no version of it though, where it's just a
timing thing, like a perfect storm of interaction between these
fault lines and other seismic activities that can cause kind
of like a chain reaction.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
That would be Aukham's answer, right. The razor would slice
through and say, yeah, there's just some stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, No, I'm not laughing. At anybody. I'm laughing with
intelligence agencies, like, yeah, explain to me a coincidence, prove it?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Got yeah, very true, very true. There has been some
elevated activity. You can read about that in various places
across the world right now, you know, in the Pacific,
in just really everywhere there's there seems to be more
volcanic activity that's occurring, more earthquakes, and a tectonic activity
(42:22):
that's occurring. Is that some larger trend? Is it something else?
We can't say definitively, missus Piro? All right, Well, that's
it from the phone line today. We'll be right back
with more messages from.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
You, and we have returned folks. We've got a lot
of response from not just our episode about trucking being
in trouble, but our recent episode on the end of
ownership and gentlemen. That is one that's stuck with me
(43:00):
for sure. I think it's stuck with all of us.
Did any of us revisit our subscriptions?
Speaker 4 (43:06):
You know, it's funny, guys. I literally just signed up
for a year subscription for a dumb new thing. I
got this fitness tracker. It's called You, and it is
subscription based but it is super cool, and it comes
with a year subscription for free. I'm not sponsored by Whoop,
so I figured it's sort of like you're basically paying
what the cost of a year subscription would be in total.
(43:27):
So if I decided on like end of the year,
I'm kind of I'm just out like the year's cost
of the subscription, and I got the ban for free.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Now, did you cut off all your other streaming just
only go to Criterion?
Speaker 4 (43:39):
No, dude, I'm such a such a sucker.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
I also, I had mentioned at the top of that
episode how cartoonish the situation has become, such that remember
I told you guys, I was I was offered to
subscribe to a meta subscription service that would tell me
how to monitor subscriptions, and I think that happened to
a lot of us. We got a lot of feedback
(44:07):
on this one. Let's go to po. Poe wrote this
awesome thing and gives us some resources. If you are
a fellow conspiracy realist who wants to get out of
the subscription society being foisted upon us, PO, you say
hello to the void that sometimes writes back love the show.
(44:30):
Always glad to learn things when listening in your recent
episode on the end of ownership. It was inspiring and
I will surely reference it in upcoming speaking engagements for work.
Oh my gosh, dude, will brush your shoulders for you.
This guy's got speaking engagements. Pretty cool. So thanks for
those inspirations. PO you continue. You say toward the end
(44:53):
of the show you were lamenting the lack of effective
action to be taken against this subscrip trend. I am
with you. I hate how I will be served an
advert for whatever that seems interesting, and in my clickthrough
I will discover more info and the price they have
crafted is a tailored plan to my needs. They have
(45:16):
queued me up for a prescription. There is definitely dark
ux that needs to go away dark Ux here is
user experience and as we mentioned in previous conversations about
dynamic pricing, right remember that one.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Oh yeah, and by the way, I mean, I've got
a couple of friends. I'm sure you all know some
folks as well who are in ux design. It's the
user interface that a lot of these apps and whether
it be websites or various things that you know, the
public interacts with. And there's psychology a plenty involved in
designing those things and keeping people engaged or you know,
certain kinds of trickery right.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Absolutely, yeah, because it is meant to exploit the sunk
cost fallacy, meant to get us in the sandbox and
keep us there. Going back to you, PO, you say,
I wanted to share that there are effective actions in
place that you should look into and perhaps share out.
(46:15):
Professor Scott Galloway, famously of the Pivot podcast, amongst others,
has started a movement called get this Gents, Resist and Unsubscribe.
They have been putting a lot of heat on a
lot of tech bros. Check it out see the impact
that's had so far. You will find some tribe vibes
(46:36):
for your thinking, and I love a little rhyme there.
All you have to do, folks, is go to www
dot Resist and unsubscribe dot com. I'm pulling up the
website here and we all saw this. This is really
fascinating because they are fighting exactly against the dystopian stuff
we explored in that episode. You can go to their website.
(47:00):
You can see links to all sorts of sneaky subscription
services that allow you. These links allow you to directly
seamlessly unsubscribed from them. Anybody check on Apple Arcade lately?
Speaker 4 (47:17):
No, and I'm sure question about it.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Definitely absolutely keep your Netflix subscription and your subscription to
iHeart True Crime Plus and Tenderfoot TV plus and all
of those. Definitely keep those.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
Yeah, like keep the company company man, all right, salary?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Hey, uh yeah, I know who pays the bills.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Keep the Netflix.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Well you out there, hey, thank you?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Yes, thank you? You wrap up this way, you say,
all right, hope that helps. And as a thanks for
all the good content you put out after actually digging
into the material, which few truly do, but it is
obvious that you will, I'll do a lot of this
as a thanks. You are more than welcome to use
any of my music royalty free. So we're yep. So
(48:09):
we're not going to play it on air just yet, PO,
but if you wish, folks, we can give you the
link and you can follow up with us auto email
conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. Thank you so much, Po.
We have time for just one more piece of correspondence,
and it's a cool thing for all our fellow etymology nerds.
(48:33):
Are we all still into words?
Speaker 4 (48:35):
Kidding me?
Speaker 3 (48:36):
You guys like I'm bullish on words.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
Words, it's gonna be I think words are really going
to have a moment this year.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Words.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
Words, words, word to your mother.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Words. What are they good for? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Spelling everything?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Yeah, anyway, so much they're good for. So stealth checkmate,
which you'll see why that's a beautiful pun A good
name might have been pretty good, pretty pretty good. So
stealth checkmate. You say, hi, guys, longtime listener from the
Czech Republic. You can call me do dot epsies stealth
(49:17):
checkmate spelled like the country. I just re listened to
your episode The Future of Robot Servants from September twenty
twenty four. You correctly mentioned in the history of the
word robot that it comes from the play or You Are,
written by Carl Chapak. However, I have one minor correction
(49:37):
and one fun fact correction. In the Czech language, we
call our country Czech Republic as chech youa republic. See
the connection between our chech letter. It's a C with
a like downward facing arrow above it, and they say
the internationally used cz it is the same sound in
(49:59):
the beginn any of the words hence c ape K
with that arrow over the sea would be pronounced Chappac
not Kapak as one of you mispronounced it. We're not
gonna We're not gonna relitigate that one. We love learning stuff.
Here's the fun fact. You continue, stealth Checkmate. I can't
(50:22):
say that name like I'm not in an agency, right,
like stealth Checkmate. You can't say that like hi is
stealth checkmate?
Speaker 4 (50:33):
All right?
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Like that's too casual, you know what I mean? Uh So, okay, So,
our spy named friend of the show says, even though
the word robot does come from the play Or You Are,
written by Carol Chapack, as you mentioned, the word itself
was actually invented by his older brother Joseph. This was
(50:56):
confirmed by Carol himself in a newspaper article in nineteen
thirty three. It's pretty funny how it came to be.
You can find the English translation from the Wikipedia article
in a different language about.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
Are you Are?
Speaker 3 (51:12):
So it's kind of cool for anybody who has siblings
in the crowd tonight. It's kind of cool that the
guy acknowledged his sibling you know what I mean, and said, hey,
I got famous off these robots. But really it was
my guy's ideas.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Cool credit where it's due.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Day, and Stealth Checkmate says this happens to be a
well known fact that we learn in schools, but it
is probably not taught elsewhere in the world. Given the
direction of technology these days, such trivia about robots may
come in handy to impress your peers at parties. Feel
(51:52):
free to use this email to enlighten whomever you deem worthy. Everybody,
Stealth Checkmate, everybody is worthy. I permit the void to
write to me in case it becomes incentivized to do so.
Stay curious, which I think is still kind of like
a Ted Lasso tagline, Right, be curious or Walt Woodman.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Wait, stay curious is a tagline of some company.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Oh, I bet you're stay You're right, You're right, You're right, Matt.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
But I can't. I can't remember what it is.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
And now we're curious about it. Oh, they got to us.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
It worked.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Oh what the heck is it was it? PBS?
Speaker 4 (52:36):
No, that can't be it. I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
It was PBS, Stay curious, PBS.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Stay curious. PBS, also quoting Whitman's were alluding to, uh,
and we are so grateful that you all have joined
us today. Thank you for teaching us about robots. Thank
you for sharing your stories about the bell Witch Cave.
Thank you for giving us a chance to talk about
missing scientists and what I think was a fake assassination attempt.
(53:10):
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We will bring it back if you are willing to
bring back you're barking up the wrong tree, buddy. And
then there was this back and forth between the different
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delegations negotiating which sayings we could bring back from the
old golden days.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
They saw a similar reel where someone was questioning, what
happened to all the shorties? How come no one's talking
about shorties anymore?
Speaker 3 (03:07):
What happened to all the shorties? What happened to all
the trees? Where are the right trees? Where where do
you bark up the right tree? Trees also means marijuana.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I think I think shorties became batties. That's exactly right,
that was the answer.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, thank you. I was.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I was digging for it, but I just decided to
leave it because I couldn't recall. And you nailed it
finger on the pulse. But then, what of the brats
with a z Well, it was brash summer.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Like if Braum it was a golden time summer.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
It's a linereen summer happens as well. Uh, we don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
You're looking forward to short King summer.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Hey, we're looking forward to summer. We're also looking to
October second through the seventh. Please come hang out with us.
We are on a cruise that we are super excited
about from New York to the Caribbean Virgin Voyages. That's right,
it's happening, the Stuff Cruise.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yes, a stuff themed cruise with us and all of
our favorite stuff brethrens from the Stuff Days.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Oh yes, we will be hanging out on a ship
and in Bermuda. Why don't you join us?
Speaker 4 (04:19):
Go check it out? And Stuff at Sea and by
Stuff Days, i'm referring to, of course Stuff you should
know the Mega Blockbuster podcast that it remains today. Also
a couple of nice fellas Josh and Chuck. We love
those guys and looking forward to hanging with them. We
got stuff, Mom, never told you what further stuffs do
we have?
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Oh well, no, we have stuff. They don't want you
to know. Oh that's us, that's us. That's us from earlier.
Not only will you be able to see amazing exclusive
live shows, you can have excursions and you can find
us hanging out on the ship. Also, nobody snitch if
I play blackjack under an alias.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Okay, Ohmerta ben Omerta.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Oh Merta. And speaking of oh Merta, segues. We're gonna
pause for a word from our sponsors, and then we're
going to get into tonight's listener mail program. Maybe what
do you say? No? Will we start with a ghost story?
Speaker 7 (05:15):
Oh gosh, yes, And we've returned with the uh previously
mentioned ghost story from listener Niki, who wrote in worry
that maybe this would be a little too long to.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Read on the air. Pish posh, we say, NICKI, hello again, Nikki.
Here you can read this on the air, but it
may be a bit too long, I say again, pish posh.
Here we go. My Graham's basement was haunted boof just
love it just stay saying the quiet part out loud
or the loud part a little quiet. One summer when
my sisters and I were visiting her, she set up
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three beds downstairs. We figured it would be okay because
all of us were down there. We were just falling
asleep when I felt a fist slowly pushed through the
bottom of the mattress into my middle back. I ignored it. What, yeah,
that's right. Wait, that's right. What wait for it, matt
wait for it. I ignored it, which is wild? How
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could you do that? Uh? Then it pushed into my
right shoulder. I huffed, opened my eyes to stare at
the ceiling, and addressed my older sister. Ha ha, I said,
I know it's you. My older sister sat up in
bed and asked me what I was talking about. During
this time, the fist pushed against my bum whow.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
No, no, don't fist bumps.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
No no, don't no, only fist fist bumps, not fist bumps.
I say, uh. Then my left shoulder. In a very shaky,
scared voice, I called to my younger sister, ha ha.
She sat up in bed again. The fist pushed against
my middle back once more. I jumped into my older
sister's bed as my younger sister did the same thing,
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all three of us in single twin bed for the
rest of the night. When I told Graham, Graham, she
hand waved us away. You were not hurt. You'll be fine.
Stop being a couple of little babies. And I had
at that part too, as if to challenge her. Later
that summer, my little sister and I were playing downstairs
with a kid's bouncy toy, perhaps a ball of some sort,
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maybe a pogo stick. She doesn't make it clear the
kind that is. Basically, oh, she does a large ball.
Opp it's a hippinie hop, guys, a large ball with
handle handles.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Hippie hop is and you hop along the floor.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
You do, indeed hop along? What could go wrong with
the hippie hop? Although you know, this reminds me of
it reminds me of little Danny Torrance riding his big
wheel down the hall of the Overlook Hotel. Something safe
and childlike and innocuous and fanciful about a big wheel.
Similar here we have the hippie hop.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
As long as there's not, you know, something sharp nearby.
A hippieie hop is very safe, That's very true.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Does seemed to have gone the way of the lawn dart.
I don't know that we see hippity hops around as
much anymore.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
They are Yeah, well, I know a guy.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Oh good, let's let's talk let's talk after the showpin.
I bounced a couple of times, then it flew out
from underneath me as I landed on my tailbone on
the concrete. Don't hippie hop on the concrete. Still can't
sit for very long on a heart. Oh, I didn't
mean to make life. This is a long, a lifetime injury.
Still can't sit for very long on a hard surface.
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Some thirty years later. I blamed my little sister, but
she was nowhere near me at the time. Graham Graham
had her basement exercised after that. Just boom, just burying
the lead, just dropping in questions. Okay, we might have
to follow up on this one. Nikki Graham had her basement.
Actually she's not called Graham Graham. That's what she is
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to me. But I don't mean to have revised history here.
Graham had her basement exercised after that. Love list. You guys,
you make the graveyard shift better. Nicki, NICKI, thank you,
thank you. What a tale. We do have some follow ups,
and I would love to actually do that. So maybe
we'll pingyback on this email and see if we can
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get a little bit more detail around this, and that'd
be fun. For a follow up on a later listener mail.
But since we're talking about ghost stories and spooky things,
what lurk in the dark or the shadows? I would
love to recount a little text exchange I had with
a good friend of mine who I met through the show,
and her being a fan of stuff that I want
you to know, Christy from Saint Louis, who I've mentioned
(09:35):
a time or two on air. Christy recently visited a
place that you've been and Tennessee might know from your
time in Tennessee. Paducah. Yes, Paduca, Yes, yes, Miss Paducah. Yes,
I know it well. I spent some time in my
youth in Paducah. I was not familiar with Paduca, but
apparently Christy and a friend of hers took a lovely
(09:57):
little drive through Paduca where they went to an incredible
sounding quilt museum. She sent me some pictures from it.
Really cool like quilt picture quilt as art object, which
of course they already are. I mean, but we're not
talking about your tradition. Does ain't your Graham, This is
ain't your Graham Graham's quilt. We're talking about some seriously bespoke,
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very psychedelic quilts. Some of them were like have really
really colorful like soap bubbles and all kinds of fractal patterns,
and then of course they had classic quilts as well.
It is a historical artifact of the quilts and something
that you know, can tell the tale of people's family lines,
as described in the film How to Make an American Quilt.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
And to be clear, Paducah is in Kentucky, so everybody
stop writing the email right now. It's just Tennessee. And
I are aware of it because that is an adjacent
state in Nole.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I believe we're getting there.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
We are getting to the state, and which is in Kentucky.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Did not bother googling that, And I do apologize any
any Kentuckians out there. Paducah, It's very true, ben is
in Kentucky, but it is adjacent to Tennessee, which is
really where I was gushing about the quilt museum. Do
check that out if you're on a road trip that
takes you through Paduca. You might also find yourself on
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the outskirts of Nashville, which is exactly where Christy found herself,
where she and her traveling companion went to something called
the Bell Witch Cave. I don't recall if we've talked
about the Belle Witch and the bell Witch Cave on
stuff they don't want you to know. I do distinctly
remember an episode from another sister show of ours in
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the Stuff Family, stuff you missed in history class back
in the day when I used to produce that show.
Nearly certain they did an episode on the bell Witch Cave.
Do you guys know about this?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
I didn't know nothing of the bell Witch.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
You know, not of the bell Witch. We're about to
school you up, Matt. The bell Witch Cave is a
little outside of Nashville, I asked her. I looked it
up after she said, you know what, We'll get back
to the email, but I will just kind of give
a little bit of highlights about the bell Witch. So
the bell Witch is a haunting. A famous haunting that
occurred around the Bell family farm near Adams then Red River,
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Robertson County, Tennessee from about eighteen seventeen into the early
eighteen twenties. The principal haunting related events centered around one
John Bell Senior, his wife Lucy, and their children. The
phenomenon reported include, but are not limited to, unseen entities
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speaking and cursing those who dared cross its path, interacted
verbally with families and visitors to the farm. We're also
talking about things like physical slaps, poltergeist type stuff, punches, pinches,
hair pulling, bed shaken, sometimes described as leaving bruises on
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those who who were afflicted by these occurrences. We've also
got some other kind of poultergeisty things, talking about noises,
knocking objects, thrown or moved chains, rattling, disembodied voices, contemporary
nineteenth century newspaper items circulated locally talking about the most
influential version of the narrative. An authenticated history of the
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Bell Witch from eighteen ninety four by M. V. Ingram,
which compiles folklore and interviews over decades. So essentially what
happened is in eighteen seventeen, the Bell family in Tennessee
started experiencing all of these things that I was mentioning,
the knocking sounds, the poltergeist behavior, bed covers being ripped
off and whipped off in the night. Voices starting at
a whisper and then getting louder and louder over time.
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Voices reportedly quoting scripture, singing hymns in a sinister tone.
Apparently it had said. What this entity was saying was
that it hated John Bell, Sr. And had ill intent
laid out for this man. And that is because John
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Bell built the farm, which is located what today bears
the address four thirty Keysburg Road, is of course the
center of this myth, this legend, this lore, and has
to do with the fact that it was built in
and around some Native American burial sites and that members
of the Bell family supposedly disturbed bones from some of
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these graves. So back to Christy in her perspective on
this and her time touring what is known as the
Bell Which Cave. I asked her if anything spooky occurred
while she was there, and she said, not really, but
they told us stories of what they experienced before. And
I'm not sure if I made stuff up or heard it.
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She mentioned hearing like TV static, and I did for
a little bit, but could have just and coincidence. One
of those pattern seeking things we were talking about on
our last episode regarding the weaponized psychology of Tao and
what has it been the Benjamin Franklin syndrome.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Benjamin Franklin effect effect.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yes, of course we are pattern seeking creatures. So the
moment someone tells you maybe you should be hearing static,
your brain might introduce a little bit of static, similar
to like the placebo effect. She also said sometimes if
she whistles, a spirit will whistle back. Ooh. Per our
Appalachian Trail episode, guys, don't whistle back. Spirit whistles at you.
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Don't whistle back. Turn around, run. This is a little
bit different. But this is also in Appalachia.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Is it not been this well culturally?
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Yes, okay, we did get a message from a caller
that just wanted us to remind everybody if we didn't
get a chance to do it at some other point.
If you hear your name being yelled in the woods, yelled,
not whispered, you should probably fond as it may be
someone that is attempting to find you or rescue you.
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Also true, someone believes you are lost.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
True, not always spooky spirits. So when it's the police yelling,
just automatically put down your weapon, get on your knees,
and lick some boots.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Hashtag not a cop. Okay. Also, Christy goes on, there is,
as I'd mentioned, a legitimate Native American burial ground on
the property and there was a skeleton in the cave
from a woman, but someone stole the skeleton between the
nineteen seventies and the nineteen nineties, and the cave was
super cool. The tour guide said, there's a spot in
the cave where negative things have been known to happen
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to visitors, like receiving scratches, slaps, and hair pulling, y'all,
Just like I was mentioning in the reporting about the
whole bell Witch haunting. The Native American burial ground has
around sixty spots and they are each about two by three.
It's tiny because they are buried these individuals in the
fetal position with their hands and feet bound on their
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backs facing the sun. At the gift shop, they have
a binder with all the letters from people that took
rocks from the property and mailed them back because they
felt as though they were cursed. Pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, The hair pulling thing is something I've seen depicted
in films before and several TV shows that just it
creeps me out quite a bit. Just you've seen that before, right,
I can't. It's probably one of the conjuring movies. Is
probably any number of the things that you can find
right now on Netflix where you'll just see a shot
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of someone's hair being pulled up and then just kind
of yanked a bit. That happening in a way you
can't explain.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Well, sometimes it's a low ceiling.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah, this is also not a big cave, you knowles
the lag tite or something like that. Whatever, No, you
know or like you know, you can catch your clothes
on things. It happens all the time. But I will say,
by way of a somewhat of a twist ending, you'll
recall John Bell and the Voice having beef with mister Bell. Well,
in eighteen twenty, John Bell died under some pretty strange
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and suspicious circumstances. A vial of a dark fluid was
found in the house, and the family, like you do,
tested it on the family cat, which died instantly. So
the Voice apparently made another appearance, claiming that she had
done the deed and poisoned him. Reading a little bit
(18:33):
from a Reddit post on our parentormal What makes the
case unusual is the amount of documentation. As I'd mentioned,
there was quite a bit of writing done on the subject.
There are named witnesses, dates, and written accounts from people
who were there. Most hauntings from this era are vague
stories passed down with no names attached. This one has
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a paper trail. The bell Witch Cave in Adams, Tennessee,
is on the National Historic Registry and is, of course,
as evidenced by Christie's Journey, open to visitors. Pretty cool
and just north of there there's some There's the Red
River Campground where you can go horseback riding, stay in
some cabins, ride a canoe, check out an old fort,
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you know, so you make a day of it.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
Make a day of it. Yeah, please help out your
local tourism board. Also, Tennessee is riddled with subterranean mysteries.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
What's the caverns we've been talking about. We've been off
air and I have been talking about how both of
us really want to go see a show at this
incredible kind of like the red Rocks of our region
called the caverns. You want to tell us a little
bit about that. There's actually like a subterranean venue, and
then I think a larger above ground version. There's like
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two like different sized spaces there.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Yes, yeah, you're absolutely correct. They are in a burst
of creativity called the Caverns. Over in Pellham Tennessee. This
is where Noel and I got very close to going
to see Explosions in the Sky, which Matt you introduced
me to as a band, and I think they're just
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the Bee's Knees.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
Also, God Speedy Black Emperor did a show there that
I would have liked to go, as well as King
Gizzard and the Lizard Wizards. So it's that that's who
I was thinking of. That's okay, no no I like
explosions as well. But this boil Boy. You can go
to the Caverns dot com. There's incredible video of the caverns,
the venues and the surrounding countryside and you can camp
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and do little add ons. You can rent a yurt,
you know, do all this kind of stuff. What a
cool place. Look forward to checking it out one day.
But huge thanks to Nicky for the ghost story and
to Christy for the ghost story.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Yes, before we leave, can we please go back to
Nicky's Graham Graham's basements, must rams. I was definitely Graham
Graham down there right.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
Oh, had to have been.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Like underneath the bed, pushing up on the bed. Come on,
she snuck down there. She crawled underneath the bed and
was just breaking up.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
I don't know if that's sport creepy or less. I
think it's more reminds me of that m Met Shyamalan
movie that was a little bit more small. The visitors. Yeah,
it was good. It was about visit the visit excuse me,
thank you, Ben. It was about scary old people.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
It was very great. It was not as great new
offense to m Night. It was not as great as
your phenomenal correspondence, Nikki and Christy, thank you so much. Please, folks,
be safe when you hang out in caves, and I
will say it, don't go cave diving, don't go water splunking,
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don't go chasing waterfalls. Yes, please stick to the overland
rivers and lakes that you're used to, possibly in a canoe.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And if you're going to have your hair pulled, make
sure you know who's.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Doing and have a safe word. And our safe word
for today is hard sponsor break.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And we've returned guys often on this show. We'll be
having a little chat. We'll come up with a phrase.
We'll see a proper noun, couple of words that are
strung together that seem interesting to us, and we will
say something akin to oh Wow, that would make a
great ska band, or that would be an incredible death
metal group.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Super guilty of confess.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
We all do it, I know, and it's really fun.
And you know, people who've been listening for a while,
like Chef Ben, have have clocked a few of those,
especially if we mention it specifically. But sometimes we don't
mention that we're talking about a specific band name or something.
We'll just say a phrase and someone like Chef Ben,
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we'll imagine it as a band. So let's jump to
a quick This is a compilation of eight messages sent
in by Chef Ben. The first one has nothing to
do with the band. It has to do with secret
NASA spacecraft that are up in the air. We talked
recently about a new version of one of those, the
kind that is supposed to be able to fly in
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ways that most conventional aircraft are unable to and similar
to the X thirty seven B. The first thing you're
gonna hear is about that. Then the rest are band names.
You ready to hear this, guys, gosh, yes, it's it
gonna go super fast.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Here we go, yo.
Speaker 8 (23:39):
I'm not interested until they launched the X sixty nine
call me then period that I would one hundred percent
listen to an emo band called Ghost Mama just FYI.
I would not listen to a SKA band called Severe
Dynamic Load.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Thanks No.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
I would without any reservation listen to a SKA band
called Sure As Shooting Well Done. While I would not
listen to a SKA band called The Hidden Far, I
would listen to a thrash band with that name, so
thank you for that. I would in fact listen to
a SKA band called My Secret Knife. My Secret Knife's
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second album would be called Those Motherfers Have a Godstopper Fellas.
I would absolutely one listen to an emo band called
a Ghost Stole My Underwear.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Secret Knife also's kind of emo coded. I gotta say,
like it's making me think of my chemical romance or
something like that. Maybe it's a little too brief to
properly qualify. That's what a cool one, man. Yeah, yeah,
that's great on so many levels.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
There's something very peaky blinders about My Secret Knife to me,
which is a little hidden thing somewhere in your out.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah, perhaps retractable in the tip of the shoe. Yeah. Oh, guys,
I did. I did stumble upon another fun one in
the wild conversation with my girlfriend. Doom Cruise. Ooh, I
like that Doom cruise. Wait?
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Is this a Doom inspired cruise much like our cruise
that we're going on, the Stuff cruise? Wait, but with
the video or no no no no no no no no.
I'm just saying, like a Doom inspired cruise would be
very cool.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Well, you know, there are all these packaged cruises these
days for like nostalgia kind of tours, like different bands.
There's metal cruises, obviously, there's podcast cruises. You want a cruise,
there's probably one out there for you.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, how about the band name Critical Juliani.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
That's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I hope he's okay, right, Yeah he's not anyway?
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah, uh guy.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
That guy.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Okay, let's jump to our next caller and thank you
so much, chef Ben. Well, do you guys have anything
else to say on that one before we jump?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Just love it. I love the genreification of the whole
thing and the you know wood or wouldn't listen to rankings?
That just was a delight. Yeah. I think we had
one between our episode breaks today. It was a new
metal band called inverted jinkos.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
What no, oh fabulous, Oh God, that just brings that
makes my mind wander so much.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
What is an inverted jinko?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Well, it's a tarot card, uh in a different system.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Used to.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, yeah, though the one you made ben.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Oh, this is this is the tarot part right, white cheese,
but this is the inverted jinko. That's not going to
translate to audio. But it's Jean's Jinko's white shoes and
I guess an orange shirt but they can't see the
color red background.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
It looks gorgeous. All right, we are jumping to the
phone lines to hear a message from Chewy aka black
Heart aka a bunch of other things in our phone system.
We're going by Chewey today. Chew, we just had a
couple of things that he wanted to bring to our
attention if we hadn't been thinking about them already, and
just see what we think here we go.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Ay top of the morning too. Well, this is Chewy
aka mister Blackheart. Calm. It's a few things. Have you
all heard about the assassination attempt being staged, earthquakes going
on around area fifty one, or the fact that it
isn't just high ranking officials in various fields of study
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and branches of the government going missing in the United States.
It's also happened in China as well.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
My response.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Just terrifying.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
All you can do is make sound.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You nailed it, and the yes, there is a cold
war of scientists going missing, not just in China, as
we mentioned in our recent Strange News programming, but yes,
but also in Russia. And of course yes, we have
an episode about targeting scientists in Iran. So sometimes the
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things that you do, Uncle Sam, come back to you.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, for sure. Let's jump to the first thing that
you we mentioned, the correspondence dinner and the shooting suspect
who is currently incarcerated and being charged charged with an
attempted assassination of the United States President. That's a big
deal recently. Let's see this was posted on May first
(28:54):
by PBS. It is security footage of the incident. Just
taking a look at that from camera one, Camera one
caught the whole thing. The day and time is Saturday,
twenty thirty six, let's say, around forty when the shooter
makes an entrance to this particular video and this one,
(29:16):
it is very interesting to see because it is.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
It looks.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
It looks like a movie, first of all, because it's
pretty high quality security camera footage. The other thing that
makes it weird is all the stuff this suspect is
doing and all the other like police and Secret Service
and all the other folks that are there. It just
looks not real. But is that because we're just watching
(29:43):
it from a camera's perspective and it feels like a
TV show or a movie, or is it because of
the actual actions that are taken. Have you guys watched
all of this footage.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
Much foot But I heard some conflicting reports as to
whether or not the suspect actually discharged his weapon or not.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It appears that the suspect did not discharge their weapon,
at least that's according to the official reporting that has
come out most recently. The only person that discharged weapon
was a police officer that you can see in the
camera footage shooting. You can see the weapon being discharged.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Which is interesting because potus as we know, this all
occurred on April twenty fifth, Right, quotus as We said
that the Secret Service agent who was shot during the
White House Correspondence Association dinner was not struck by friendly fire.
So the President of the United States is saying the
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suspected gunman fired upon Secret Service. Also, interestingly enough, folks,
the same President of the United States claimed that he
was going to or had insiders claim that he was
going to drop a bomb on him and have a
mic drop moment at the correspondence dinners.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Did you hear what Carolyn Levitt said setting that up? Yeah,
it's almost too comical, she said. She says shots will
be fired in the room tonight, you know. And I
don't know, guys, I mean, the false flag of it all,
it strikes me a little off. It just seems like
there'd be better ways to go about it. And there's
some things that don't quite connect, like he was on
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a different floor and I'm curious. But then their response
was so odd. The whole cadre kind of looking smirking,
like they like they like the kid that got away
with the cookie, you know what I mean, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Got to clear this up really quickly because this is
brand new. As of twenty two hours ago, CNN is
posting that quote Secret Service agent definitively shot by a
suspected gunman at White House correspondence dinner US attorney says, however,
it was a shotgun that he was wielding as he ran.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Not sure he didn't want it to be like non
lethal or he doesn't want it to be a mass
shooting event, is what this person said in their manifesto.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Yeah, thirty one year old Cole Allen.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
And this information is coming from missus Piro, who has
said some other things in the past that appear to
not line up with reality. She is saying, we can
now establish that a pellet that came from the buckshot
from the defendant's Mosburg pump action shotgun was intertwined with
the fiber of the vest of the Secret Service officer.
(32:34):
And if you look at the video, it does somewhat
appear like a shot is fired at very close range
to one police officer that is standing kind of directly
in front of him as he goes through the metal
detector there. But again there's no there's no muzzle flash
as if a shot went off with that particular weapon,
(32:58):
with the shotgun, but there is a definite series of
muzzle flashes that you can see on the video from
the handgun the Secret Service officers using. So it is
very confusing. There you imagine a Mossburg shotgun. Have you
guys ever shot one of those before?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Those things serious, They're very serious. And the kickback is
pretty crazy on him. And you see this guy just
flying through a metal detector as he's running and it does.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
It doesn't look like isn't it one that has any
style grip? Is that one of those types?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well you can it can be different.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Oh okay, okay, yeah. It also to that point, Chewy,
to that point, it reminds me of one of one
of the dumbest experiences I had watching the Terminator franchise,
I believe, thinking you could do that.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
Yeah, yeah, I wanted to be able to do it
so bad out not a thing. Not sorry, there's actually two.
So Sarah Connor does the Chick Chick and Homeboy Terminator
has one of those ones with the cocky guy and
he flips it around and cocks it that way. So
there's two different nonsensical cocking methods that we all grew
(34:11):
up much like Barty McFly shooting off sparks, skateboarded behind
the car.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
What we're saying, Chewie, is we can suspend disbelief for
a certain threshold. This is asking a lot of belief
to be suspended. The official narrative is troubling and to
our earlier points, does not really match up with the
(34:37):
facts on the ground.
Speaker 4 (34:38):
When pivoting immediately, it's in talking points to this is
why we need that ballroom guys. And then again, I mean,
they just look so satisfied with themselves in that press
conference immediately after supposedly having a you know, a threat
on all of their lives.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
They justlektorical threat.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
They just look downright, you know, tickled pink.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Yeah, yep. I'm just going to continue that CNN article
for a second, because CNN is even trying to figure
out what reality is here amongst statements from White House
officials and you know other folks there. It says a
CNN analysis of hotel surveillance video, the one we were
just talking about, released by Piro's office last week, coupled
(35:23):
with audio taken from from inside the ballroom during the shooting,
does not definitively conclude when or whether Alan fired a shot.
The audio analysis does indicate six shots in total, which
would align with the initial statements by law enforcement that
Alan fired one shot and then there were five shots
(35:43):
fired by one of the Secret Service agents that was
standing directly in front of him as he ran through.
It's just one of those weird things, as you guys
are kind of saying, it doesn't We got another couple
of messages talking about how it doesn't have to be
an orchestrated event, like the government didn't have to pay
(36:04):
this guy to go in and do this thing, or
he didn't have to be a sleeper agent, he didn't
have to be really a part of anything. All they
had to occur is that they had to allow it
to happen because it would serve a purpose for them.
In this case, they are they appear to be pretty
openly talking about what that reason is, right of why
(36:25):
it would be allowed to happen. But then you've all
you can also go to other places like PBS that
have been interviewing several people who know a lot about
the Secret Service how these kind of concentric circles of
security function at a big event and the types of
security and how you know, and this one.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Not acting like they're supposed to, like is that part
of it? Like much like in Pennsylvania where they barely
like held Trump down, like it wouldn't training dictate, they
would literally dogpile on this potus.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yes, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
It's weird to see this series of events at the
Correspondence dinner versus the series of events when his ear
was allegedly shot by a sniper. Right, and just it's
it's different, right, Let alone the footage, the footage of
mister Kennedy surrounded by like four Secret Service agents and
(37:24):
then his spouse kind of running to try and catch
up with them. Just alone and uncovered.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
And and there's an incredible shot of Steven Miller. And
I mean, you know whatever, shots are taken out of context,
but literally looks like he's using his pregnant wife as
a human shield.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Actually, even on the Daily Show, I don't mean to
saying I guess you there, Noel, But on the Daily
Show they talked about how Stephen Miller looked courageous compared
to some of the other folks that were being covered
because he was actually had his arm around his wife.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
But that's the thing I think I saw the shot
maybe take out a contact. His arm is around his wife,
but she very much in front of him.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yes, but they're running away from where the shots get
fair enough guys, okay, so let's quickly jump to the
scientists in China. You can read in Newsweek published April
twenty third of this year, Chinese scientists have been dying
mysterious deaths too. This is they're talking about several different people.
(38:26):
The July one, twenty twenty three death of someone named
Feng Yankee, a professor at the National University of Defense Technology.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Let's see, he.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Created something called a war skull platform. He had won
national competitions with this. A lot of information in here
that we're not going to be able to get to today,
but you can read about it right now. There are
several others that are being named in this article and
are being mentioned across the internet, folks who may or
(38:59):
may not, you know, have any connection together. We have
not proven that. I cannot talk about that openly right
now because I don't have all the information. But there
are some other There are some other folks there in
China that appear to be scientists, and they are dying again.
Check out that Newsweek article. Chinese scientists have been dying
(39:20):
mysterious deaths too. Last, but not least, let's jump to
these earthquakes in area fifty one guys. Popular Science has
talked about this. They in their article kind of just say, hey,
it doesn't have anything to do with nuclear testing because
it would have been detected by all these other systems.
(39:40):
Even though we just backed out. The US just backed
out of a nuclear treaty test ban treaty that we
had set up for a long time. One expired and
then we had just kind of said we don't need
to be a part of that anymore. So, theoretically, if
you were going to test nukes underground the way the
United States once did, some of the testing areas out
(40:01):
there in the Yuka Flat is a place where the
US historically tested nukes underground, so why wouldn't they use
that place? Again, Popular Science tries to make the point
that it takes a certain amount of time to get
a nuclear weapon test ready, and it takes a long time.
They're saying, you know, months and months to prepare that
(40:22):
kind of thing, and we only recently backed out of
those the nuclear test ban treaty and all this other stuff.
My only point would be, you could probably prepare for
a nuclear test way in advance and just not do
the thing until it's time to test, and you give
your given permission to do it. Just pointing that out. Now,
(40:44):
what do you guys think about this? Could it be
something else happening out in the desert?
Speaker 4 (40:50):
I mean it is a aren't there like in that
area of the country, like kind of fault act.
Speaker 2 (40:59):
There are many a fault out in that area, and
there are many a small and large earthquake. I didn't
even read the title of the article here from Popular Science,
written by Andrew Paul, published May one, twenty twenty six.
Area fifty one just had seventeen earthquakes in a single day,
and there are a ton of rumors going around the
(41:20):
social media's right now about what could it be? Is
it nuclear tests? Is it aliens, perhaps underground aliens of
some sort, you know, is it the boring company? Is
Elon Musk out there doing something? Is all kinds.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
There's no version of it though, where it's just a
timing thing, like a perfect storm of interaction between these
fault lines and other seismic activities that can cause kind
of like a chain reaction.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
That would be Aukham's answer, right. The razor would slice
through and say, yeah, there's just some stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Yeah, No, I'm not laughing. At anybody. I'm laughing with
intelligence agencies, like, yeah, explain to me a coincidence, prove it?
Speaker 2 (42:01):
Got yeah, very true, very true. There has been some
elevated activity. You can read about that in various places
across the world right now, you know, in the Pacific,
in just really everywhere there's there seems to be more
volcanic activity that's occurring, more earthquakes, and a tectonic activity
(42:22):
that's occurring. Is that some larger trend? Is it something else?
We can't say definitively, missus Piro? All right, Well, that's
it from the phone line today. We'll be right back
with more messages from.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
You, and we have returned folks. We've got a lot
of response from not just our episode about trucking being
in trouble, but our recent episode on the end of
ownership and gentlemen. That is one that's stuck with me
(43:00):
for sure. I think it's stuck with all of us.
Did any of us revisit our subscriptions?
Speaker 4 (43:06):
You know, it's funny, guys. I literally just signed up
for a year subscription for a dumb new thing. I
got this fitness tracker. It's called You, and it is
subscription based but it is super cool, and it comes
with a year subscription for free. I'm not sponsored by Whoop,
so I figured it's sort of like you're basically paying
what the cost of a year subscription would be in total.
(43:27):
So if I decided on like end of the year,
I'm kind of I'm just out like the year's cost
of the subscription, and I got the ban for free.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
Now, did you cut off all your other streaming just
only go to Criterion?
Speaker 4 (43:39):
No, dude, I'm such a such a sucker.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
I also, I had mentioned at the top of that
episode how cartoonish the situation has become, such that remember
I told you guys, I was I was offered to
subscribe to a meta subscription service that would tell me
how to monitor subscriptions, and I think that happened to
a lot of us. We got a lot of feedback
(44:07):
on this one. Let's go to po. Poe wrote this
awesome thing and gives us some resources. If you are
a fellow conspiracy realist who wants to get out of
the subscription society being foisted upon us, PO, you say
hello to the void that sometimes writes back love the show.
(44:30):
Always glad to learn things when listening in your recent
episode on the end of ownership. It was inspiring and
I will surely reference it in upcoming speaking engagements for work.
Oh my gosh, dude, will brush your shoulders for you.
This guy's got speaking engagements. Pretty cool. So thanks for
those inspirations. PO you continue. You say toward the end
(44:53):
of the show you were lamenting the lack of effective
action to be taken against this subscrip trend. I am
with you. I hate how I will be served an
advert for whatever that seems interesting, and in my clickthrough
I will discover more info and the price they have
crafted is a tailored plan to my needs. They have
(45:16):
queued me up for a prescription. There is definitely dark
ux that needs to go away dark Ux here is
user experience and as we mentioned in previous conversations about
dynamic pricing, right remember that one.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Oh yeah, and by the way, I mean, I've got
a couple of friends. I'm sure you all know some
folks as well who are in ux design. It's the
user interface that a lot of these apps and whether
it be websites or various things that you know, the
public interacts with. And there's psychology a plenty involved in
designing those things and keeping people engaged or you know,
certain kinds of trickery right.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Absolutely, yeah, because it is meant to exploit the sunk
cost fallacy, meant to get us in the sandbox and
keep us there. Going back to you, PO, you say,
I wanted to share that there are effective actions in
place that you should look into and perhaps share out.
(46:15):
Professor Scott Galloway, famously of the Pivot podcast, amongst others,
has started a movement called get this Gents, Resist and Unsubscribe.
They have been putting a lot of heat on a
lot of tech bros. Check it out see the impact
that's had so far. You will find some tribe vibes
(46:36):
for your thinking, and I love a little rhyme there.
All you have to do, folks, is go to www
dot Resist and unsubscribe dot com. I'm pulling up the
website here and we all saw this. This is really
fascinating because they are fighting exactly against the dystopian stuff
we explored in that episode. You can go to their website.
(47:00):
You can see links to all sorts of sneaky subscription
services that allow you. These links allow you to directly
seamlessly unsubscribed from them. Anybody check on Apple Arcade lately?
Speaker 4 (47:17):
No, and I'm sure question about it.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
Definitely absolutely keep your Netflix subscription and your subscription to
iHeart True Crime Plus and Tenderfoot TV plus and all
of those. Definitely keep those.
Speaker 4 (47:34):
Yeah, like keep the company company man, all right, salary?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Hey, uh yeah, I know who pays the bills.
Speaker 4 (47:41):
Keep the Netflix.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Well you out there, hey, thank you?
Speaker 3 (47:45):
Yes, thank you? You wrap up this way, you say,
all right, hope that helps. And as a thanks for
all the good content you put out after actually digging
into the material, which few truly do, but it is
obvious that you will, I'll do a lot of this
as a thanks. You are more than welcome to use
any of my music royalty free. So we're yep. So
(48:09):
we're not going to play it on air just yet, PO,
but if you wish, folks, we can give you the
link and you can follow up with us auto email
conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. Thank you so much, Po.
We have time for just one more piece of correspondence,
and it's a cool thing for all our fellow etymology nerds.
(48:33):
Are we all still into words?
Speaker 4 (48:35):
Kidding me?
Speaker 3 (48:36):
You guys like I'm bullish on words.
Speaker 4 (48:39):
Words, it's gonna be I think words are really going
to have a moment this year.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Words.
Speaker 4 (48:44):
Words, words, word to your mother.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Words. What are they good for? Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Spelling everything?
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Yeah, anyway, so much they're good for. So stealth checkmate,
which you'll see why that's a beautiful pun A good
name might have been pretty good, pretty pretty good. So
stealth checkmate. You say, hi, guys, longtime listener from the
Czech Republic. You can call me do dot epsies stealth
(49:17):
checkmate spelled like the country. I just re listened to
your episode The Future of Robot Servants from September twenty
twenty four. You correctly mentioned in the history of the
word robot that it comes from the play or You Are,
written by Carl Chapak. However, I have one minor correction
(49:37):
and one fun fact correction. In the Czech language, we
call our country Czech Republic as chech youa republic. See
the connection between our chech letter. It's a C with
a like downward facing arrow above it, and they say
the internationally used cz it is the same sound in
(49:59):
the beginn any of the words hence c ape K
with that arrow over the sea would be pronounced Chappac
not Kapak as one of you mispronounced it. We're not
gonna We're not gonna relitigate that one. We love learning stuff.
Here's the fun fact. You continue, stealth Checkmate. I can't
(50:22):
say that name like I'm not in an agency, right,
like stealth Checkmate. You can't say that like hi is
stealth checkmate?
Speaker 4 (50:33):
All right?
Speaker 3 (50:34):
Like that's too casual, you know what I mean? Uh So, okay, So,
our spy named friend of the show says, even though
the word robot does come from the play Or You Are,
written by Carol Chapack, as you mentioned, the word itself
was actually invented by his older brother Joseph. This was
(50:56):
confirmed by Carol himself in a newspaper article in nineteen
thirty three. It's pretty funny how it came to be.
You can find the English translation from the Wikipedia article
in a different language about.
Speaker 4 (51:10):
Are you Are?
Speaker 3 (51:12):
So it's kind of cool for anybody who has siblings
in the crowd tonight. It's kind of cool that the
guy acknowledged his sibling you know what I mean, and said, hey,
I got famous off these robots. But really it was
my guy's ideas.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
Cool credit where it's due.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Day, and Stealth Checkmate says this happens to be a
well known fact that we learn in schools, but it
is probably not taught elsewhere in the world. Given the
direction of technology these days, such trivia about robots may
come in handy to impress your peers at parties. Feel
(51:52):
free to use this email to enlighten whomever you deem worthy. Everybody,
Stealth Checkmate, everybody is worthy. I permit the void to
write to me in case it becomes incentivized to do so.
Stay curious, which I think is still kind of like
a Ted Lasso tagline, Right, be curious or Walt Woodman.
Speaker 2 (52:17):
Wait, stay curious is a tagline of some company.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Oh, I bet you're stay You're right, You're right, You're right, Matt.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
But I can't. I can't remember what it is.
Speaker 3 (52:28):
And now we're curious about it. Oh, they got to us.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
It worked.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Oh what the heck is it was it? PBS?
Speaker 4 (52:36):
No, that can't be it. I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (52:40):
It was PBS, Stay curious, PBS.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
Stay curious. PBS, also quoting Whitman's were alluding to, uh,
and we are so grateful that you all have joined
us today. Thank you for teaching us about robots. Thank
you for sharing your stories about the bell Witch Cave.
Thank you for giving us a chance to talk about
missing scientists and what I think was a fake assassination attempt.
(53:10):
So thanks to Pose, Stealth Checkmate, Chef Ben, Chewy, Nikki
and Christy. We will be back with more stuff they
don't want you to know. In the meantime, we would
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Speaker 4 (53:26):
Yeah, I think we succeed mainly if you are on
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Speaker 2 (53:38):
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Speaker 4 (53:46):
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Whatever you want to do, that's fine. Just let us know.
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Speaker 3 (54:25):
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can email us directly. We are the entities that read
each piece of correspondence we receive. Be well aware, yet
I'd afraid. Sometimes the void writes back, So joined us
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