April 9, 2026 • 53 mins
In this week's listener mail segment: Neek the Greek prompts Ben, Matt and Noel to explore AI in live sports commentary. James weighs in with a Mormon perspective on Ben's earlier confirmation of intelligence agencies prioritizing LDS members. Inconspicuous asks the guys for more information about drones. Tune in for the segment, which may inform actual episodes in the future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noah.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They call me Bed.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the
Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you.
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That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.
If you are tuning into our weekly listener mail program,
The Evening of Publishers. Folks, Welcome to Thursday, April ninth.
We couldn't be more excited to have you hang in
with us. We have received so many amazing email correspondencies.
(01:01):
People have reached out to us on the lines, social
and telephonic alike. We're going to get some fantastic feedback
on a Latter Day Saints from Mormon perspective. On a
recent conversation, We're going to have a little bit of
play along at home with AI commentary Before we do
(01:22):
any of that. We were talking off air briefly about
some breaking news. The US does have boots on the
ground in Iran. Now though very monkey's finger curls kind
of way. An F fifteen E Strike Eagle out of
the forty ninth fighter Squadron has been downed. One crew
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member may have been killed. The other one, according to
the current Iranian government, has been captured. So boots on
the ground, but not the way the Potus wanted.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, dang, I mean, I just what do we think
anything is gonna come of that? It's just something that
happens in war. Sometimes planes get knocked down out of
the sky.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
That military operation, if.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You please, uh well, see it seems like maybe we
can't decide if it's war or military operation.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
We sure as shooting can't, at least rhetorically. And I
love it when when Trump said the quiet part out
loud and literally saying I'm not supposed to call it
that because calling it that requires approval, and then.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
It is.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, it says I'm not supposed to say that.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
He does do that. It's like internal monologue of a child.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It's like it's like when someone is a really bad
cold reader and they're saying, oh, you know someone who
was dead at some point and their name was Shiv
Jimba Derrek.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I actually will I take back what I said. Not
the internal monologue of a child. It's like a child
when they talk until they get an idea and just
sort of like, you know, just dance around a thing
until they sort of get it out.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You know, Hey, can we talk about another quick piece
of news, just because you probably won't be able to
talk about this on the next strange news it'll be
too far gone. Recently, do we remember Matt Gates.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Do you know this fellow.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Er?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, he said twelve year olds if I'm not mistaken
right now, But he's alien.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, So statement that he got it made recently was
about a human alien hybrid program, like a breeding program
that he's aware of as though it's just a real
thing and it exists and he knows about it, and
that would you know? That's weird af already, right, It
does align perfectly with the X Files major plot. But
(04:03):
there's another thing that happened after that that I think
is even more interesting, at least personally, guys, and that
is good old Tennessee Representative Timbershet. He made an appearance
on that Newsmax place and he was discussing UAP, commenting
on the things that Matt gets said about this human
(04:23):
alien breeding program thing, and he dropped a little quote
about guess who. I'm just just really quick here. He says,
there are no coincidences in this town. These folks have
disappeared or died mysteriously. I think overall, I think there's
(04:46):
a connection there. People just do not disappear, not in
this day and age. For the record, I'm not suicidal
and I don't take risks, right. So, like there's a
congressman saying, hey, it's kind of weird all these folks disappearing,
and they were the ones that were associated with the
special access programs that even the president, the current standing
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president does not have access to.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Or does not have the ability to recollect.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Timershett specifically says that there are people in rooms when
he and other congressmen are trying to get the information
about these special access programs that McCaslin had access to.
He's trying to get this out of the generals that
sit in the rooms with the congressman as they're being briefed,
and the congressmen are unallowed is the word he the
(05:36):
term he used, unallowed to give any specifics on any
of the things. But they now know where these trails
lead and the Congress people who have been briefed actually
know the right questions to ask of the right organizations
within the government to truly get this information out to
the public.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, and Matt, this is news to me actually About'm
looking at the independence reporting on this, And Gates said
on the Benny Johnson talk program show The Benny Show,
I guess he's a one of podcasts favorite.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Ben's right with the radio Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
One hundred percent. He said that he was given this
information rather briefed by a uniformed US Army official. He
says he was briefed on the locations of hybrid breeding
programs where captured aliens we're breeding with humans to create
some hybrid race that include that could engage in intergalactic communications.
And forgive me if I'm restating anything that's been said,
(06:33):
but guys, I wouldn't be shocked if this were totally true.
At this point, there's just nothing that would really knock
my wig back.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
He also Gates said he received this information at his
office in Florida in a quote non classified Saturday, and
so more stuff to think about.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
More on the way.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Tune into our weekly Strange news program. Look, Uh, these
folks are all in kind of monkey's paw, and there's
a lot of very valid questioning regarding their motivations. But
we have far less skepticism about our favorite part of
the show, You, our fellow conspiracy realist. So what say
(07:15):
we take a pause for a word from our sponsors,
and then we'll get right to it. I think we're
going to hear from an inconspicuous individual after the break.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh, you are so right, Ben. We are going to
hear from inconspicuous because he's been listening to many of
our episodes recently where we talk about it ron, we
talk about missiles, we talk about the military industrial complex
and all the fun stuff that happens in there in
the history of it. So he is going to tell
us a little story about a specific weapon that may
(07:53):
have to do with some of these energy weapons. It's
like a hybrid energy weapon, maybe let's think of it
that way. Thempting conspicuous.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Hello, guys, on this is inconspicuous, and I want you
to check out the Coyote Block three from Raytheon.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Two thrown destroyer, the big eything that just goes up
in covers in the air, until drones get close and
it uses microwaves to fry entire fleet to drone.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
And then it just comes back down and it is
caught by a net and then.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Up again.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
What's reusable anti drone technology developed by your friendly neighborhood
read just thought it here you guys, take care and
three us too.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh so a flying coyote, you say from Ratheon the Raytheon.
We are aware of this organization. We've talked about them
for a long time. Guys posted a little link here
to the coyote c h uas from Raytheon and RTX business.
(09:09):
Seems like a fascinating little machine. It looks like a
bit like a missile. You know, you may have seen
some of these missiles before that are launched from the
back of a truck or what looks like a shipping
container that is being towed by a larger vehicle. Looks
like a missile. But as soon as it ejects from
the system, little wings pop out in the mid area,
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like you know, traditional airplane wings, and then the tail
wings pop out in the back. And then this thing's
got a jet booster on it. It's got a little
jet engine on it, and it flies around, and you
can see videos from RTX of this thing in action.
It's important to know, inconspicuous that there are several versions
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of this thing. There is the Coyote Block two, which
is a kinetic weapon. This is the kind of thing
that we've heard of recently with the Iran conflict where
when missiles are coming in at a target, this thing
could be used to be shot as a defensive measure
to go up there. They're called effectors E F F, E, C,
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T O RS to go up and then intercept that
missile with a kinetic weapon a warhead on it and
destroy that missile. Then you've got the Coyote Block three
n K, which is the one inconspicuous that you're talking about.
This thing. It really does. It flies up into the
air and instead of they call it a non kinetic payload,
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it flies around and then it uses essentially signals, interference
and energy an energy weapon of sorts to disable these
drone swarms. And it seems like it's crazy powerful. They're well,
at least again we're looking at videos that are created
by RTX, which is a company that sells missiles and
things like the Coyote Bloc three. So it is kind
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of a promotional video. I mean, I guess we can
think of it that way, guys, almost like a trailer
for a new product when you see some of the testing.
But it does look impressive. It looks super impressive, some of.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Which those trailers you're talking about, Which is so funny
that that is that a relatively recent phenomenon, these like
you know trailers much No, I guess I've only been
seeing it lately. But very propagandistic feeling is what I'm
getting there.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yes, well, if you think think back to all the
times we've talked about these huge conventions that go on
multiple times a year in multiple countries across the globe,
where it's basically an arms convention. You know, it's not
just for the US military. We're going to get into
it here in just a moment. It is for dozens
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of militaries, air forces, navies, armies across the world. So
let's let's dive a bit into rt X, which was
formerly Raytheon Technologies. This is a multinational defense aerospace conglomerate.
They also have sub conglomerates Collins Aerospace and Pratt and
(12:08):
Whitney things two other groups we're going to talk about
briefly here. But RTX, you, guys, RTX has everything. Mostly
they have billions of dollars in contracts with organizations such
as the US air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps, as
well as other similar contracts with other countries and militaries
across the world. If we look at these conglomerates that
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they have underneath them, we can look at the Collins
Radio Company, which combined with Rockwell International to become Rockwell
Collins Incorporated, which then combined with United Technologies Corporation and
became Collins Aerospace, and then that turned into the RTX Corporation.
You could also look at the Pratt and Whitney Aircraft Company,
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which combined with United Aircraft and Transport Corporation and became
United Aircraft Corporation, which then became Technologies and added a
Raytheon Company, which became a Ratheon Technologies and now is
RTX Corporation. The whole point here, guys, is that these
are just huge corporations that in existence that had government
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contracts to produce specific things like in Pratt and Whitney's case,
engines for the kinds of jet fighters that we just
talked about at the open of this show. They make
these very expensive, incredibly powerful pieces of technology, and then
they sell them to governments, or they sell the idea
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of these things to governments with these trailers that we're
talking about nol So you got to make the trailer like,
you know, talk up the new tech. Then somebody from
the government comes in and gives you billions of dollars.
In the case of Raitheon or RTX, you're talking about
eighty to ninety billion dollars that you get in government contracts.
(14:00):
Seems like a lot of money, right it does. The
other thing about huge corporations like this is they realize
they need to have a subscription model that's a little
ad on, so they operate more than forty engine overhaul
and maintenance centers across the globe because their technology powers
twenty seven air forces around the world. Guys, twenty seven
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different air forces. Does that feel weird to anybody? Twenty
three official customers in twenty two countries where they are
selling this military technology for jets, for missiles, for non
kinetic solutions and effectors.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's normalized, but it should not
be normalized. The military defense industry is not restricted to
the United States, and pretty much everybody with the money
who is not hamstrung by sanctions wants to play the
game with the coolest new toys.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Right right, And you got to have those coolest new
toys to be the secret knife guy.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And then we talked about in a previous episode, speaking
of secret knife Guy, let's talk about one other little
conglomerate that exists underneath RTX. We've got that Pratt and
Whitney that we talked about making the jet propulsion engines.
They also make space propulsion with Pratt and Whitney Space
Propulsion a completely different company. They combined with this group
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called Rocket Dyne, Propulsion and Power to become Pratt and
Whitney Rocket Dyne, which then brought gen Corp into the mix,
and then Aerojet into the mix to create Aerojet Rocket Dyne. Guys,
do remember talking about them recently?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Aerojetcket dying.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
That's incredible, That's incredible, do Ben?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
What did we talk about them in regards to.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Ah, Yes, the future of a skynet And if I'm
recolding correctly, we also discussed we discussed the pros and
cons of having something like rocket dying around not to
be confused with a Cyberdyne. Rocket Dying is part of
(16:18):
L three Harris Technologies. They make liquid and solid rocket
engines for defense and space. You may recognize their earlier
work from the Saturn five.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Absolutely, they also had a really important person working for
them who created this thing called Monday. Her name is
Monica Jacinto Reza.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Hopefully one still is. Hopefully we don't have to speak
in about her past tense just yet, but she is
one of several disappearances recently linked to a disappearing major general, who,
at the time of recording this listener mail segment Friday,
April third, has yet to be found himself.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Correct. Well, guys, Bober here inconspicuous, thank you for taking
us down this rabbit hole. I know this maybe isn't
what you want us to talk about, but I would
love just quickly to get into corporate governance. Can we
do that? I know it's kind of dry, I think
it's an episode. Okay, yeah, well, let's make corporate governents
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an episode because do it?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Or dubs, Matt, can you give okay, can you give
me the audience and adouf of what we mean with
corporate governmance?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Absolutely, Guys, when you think about giant multinational conglomerates, who
do you picture in your mind as the leader of
one of those things?
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Well, unrelated news, it looks like Iran has yet to
attack the tech giants. It said it was going to
begin attacking on April first.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But in terms of.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Wait, didn't it damage Amazon?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I thought it did.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
They didn't do the sort of shock and all. They
didn't get everybody on their list just yet. But they
didn't do necessarily what they said they were going to
do in full. But that's how to roof works. It's
a fancy Persian word for negotiation. Anyhow, to your direct
question there, we are asking who we picture as the
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human being the dagga, right, the big pooba of running
corporate governance. Gosh, I imagine it's got to be someone
very chill and very cool, probably like Zipcroft, probably great
at yes, And is any of that off base?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Maybe?
Speaker 10 (18:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I genuinely don't know. I'm just talking about the position,
because like, if you think about Amazon, Noel Amazon, who's
the first first person you think of?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Lex Luthor?
Speaker 10 (18:51):
Okay, bald Man, what about Apple? George of the Jungle,
Tim Apple?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You can't Tim Cook.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
The point is often, and I think purposefully so, both
by the corporations and by perhaps other powers. When we
think about these giant multinational conglomerates, we think about the
chief executive officer. I mean, they're the chief it's in
the name, right, But these folks, when it comes to
a corporation's governance, they aren't actually the top folks, not
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the CEO, not the chief operating officer, or the financial
officer or the technology officer. No, those guys have bosses,
and those bosses are the boards of directors. And often
we don't know the first thing about a giant multinationals
board of directors, although if you go to their official websites,
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all of them have to have a list of the
board of directors. At least many of them like to
do that. And there's a reason for that too, and
we're going to get to it. But it is weird
to think that there's just a group of people that
sit at the top of a corporate structure making the
actual big decisions, because these are the folks that appoint
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Jensen Wang or Ted Sarandos or Elon Musk. These are
the folks that appoint the CEO to a corporate's structure,
and then that CEO goes out and becomes the main
face and voice of that corporation and perhaps the target
of negative stuff and also the bringer of the positive stuff.
When you think about a giant multinational when it comes
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to RTX, you can go to RTX dot com, slash
who Dash wi dash are slash corporate dash Governance, or
you need to search for corporate governance RTX and you
can find their board of directors. And where you're gonna
find are a lot of people who are formerly in
charge of other big stuff no longer have that position,
but now they are on the board of directors for
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this group and perhaps several other boards of giant corporations.
Just to point this out, the board of directors that
we don't think about very often really are the folks
in charge, except for they also have masters, because they
are sitting there in fine leather chairs in offices towering
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over Manhattan. But these masters, yeah, they have masters, the
primary shareholders, because ultimately a corporation is beholden to the shareholders.
And always a large corporation, especially ones like RTX that
make eighty eight billion dollars in a year. They're beholden
to the primary shareholders like Vanguard Group if you check
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out RTX Corporation on Yahoo Finance, or Blackrock Incorporated, or
Capital Research Global Investors or JP Morgan Chase and Co.
Or Morgan Stanley or the Bank of America, and it
just makes you start to see this picture of these
large financial institutions that have one hundred and twenty four
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point nine nine million shares to the value of twenty
four point five billion dollars invested into this corporation, or
Bank of America, who has five billion dollars invested into
this corporation. You just see how the financial system in
the US is tied directly back to how well these
weapons manufacturers function.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
No, one hundred percent. I mean it's like that's you
know the talk lately too around like where the US
stands in terms of its cultural significance or it's like
global importance in terms of like gross domestic product, and
like what do we make? What are we known for?
It's that it's weapons, It's it's it's war. It's like
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precision strikes. You know, that just seems like that's what
we're focused on more and more rather than manufacturing of
things that you know, people can use, or like say,
bullet trains or you know, the best kind of self
driving vehicles like the rest of the world's God has
utterly spanked on those things specifically, like you know, China
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and Japan, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, if these companies don't grow, if they don't have
those quarterly increases to their profits, then investors get a
little scared and they might move away from it. So
you got to do things like mergers and acquisitions. If
you go back, listen, listen to earlier in this episode,
we listed out so many different corporations that got merged
or acquired throughout the process of becoming what is now
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RTX Corporation. They're all inside there, one hundred and eighty
thousand employees, all working for this weapons manufacturer. Doesn't make
me feel very good. We all right, that's all, thanks
and Conspicuous will be right back after a word from
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Speaker 3 (23:57):
And we have returned with listener. This one coming to
us from James, and this one that Ben teezed at
the top, A bit of an inside perspective from somebody
who grew up in the Mormon Church, specifically regarding missionary
work that they do. So I'm just gonna read it
from the top and then we can just discuss. Hey, y'all,
I love your podcast. Thanks James. I'm a longtime listener,
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first time emailer, and was super stoked when you all
had questions about the Mormon Church because it's one of
the things I have personal experience with. I grew up
as a sixth generation Mormon in Cash Valley, Utah, until
I was thirteen, and ended up having the culture shock
of going from an area where everyone was white and
Mormon to Columbus, Ohio, And at fourteen, I moved to
the Tifton, Georgia area. We're familiar with that very agricultural,
(24:43):
if I'm not mistake. That's where a back Abraham Baldwin
Agricultural College is located. It's like a farming school, and
that sounds awesome. You well, yeah, it is a lovely place,
but it is very agrerian, for sure, no question about it.
And then at fifteen ended up in North Carolina. Throughout
that time, a lot of the inherent bigotry that was
(25:03):
ingrained in me slowly broke, mostly because I wanted to
have friends and it's hard to make friends when you
think your views are God's chosen ones and that everyone
else is destined to be some sort of you know,
Kendall ghost, right. I guess we're referencing I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
No downstairs, No downstairs.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
We're referencing what's his name, Alan Rickman in Dogma, which
maybe that's a reference that folks may not remember, but
that was a Kevin Smith farcical kind of satire about religion,
and in that Rickman was an angel who was portrayed
as having no genitals. So I think that's what we're
(25:44):
talking about here. Think Kennon Barbie, while you become a
God who's procreating with all of your spirit wives, boy
to make spirit children.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I you not.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
This is the core Mormon doctrine. And taking a quick
pause here to just make sure everyone knows we're not here.
We know that the Mormon Church has changed, we know
that polygamy is no longer the order of the day.
We are just reading a perspective from someone with some
inside experience. We're not here to yuck anybody's religious yums.
Eventually it got to the point where I was going
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to church and believing these things while also lying to
my parents and going to GSA meetings so that I
could be around the queer friends who had adopted me
as their astray. Thank God for them and their patients
and helping me lay the groundwork to help break myself
ten years later. But then I went on a mission,
and the mission is why I think the CIA ect
(26:41):
loves Mormons. Guys. Can we remind listeners real quick where
that perspective is from. That is the specific mention I
think that James is referencing. We were talking about the
CIA recruiting Mormons being a bit of a thing that
is being discussed, or maybe it's a relatively new thing,
or at least it's been in the news lately.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Sure, yeah, James, thank you again for your excellent email
to reiterate what they'd said previously and perhaps on other shows.
The US intelligence agencies and supposedly a lot of other
intelligence agencies for a long time, not recently, have loved
or prioritize members of the LDS Church, particularly after they
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do their two year bid as missionaries for the same church.
The reason that intelligence agencies will tend to look at
these people in hiring is that they will one tend
to speak a language that a lot of other US
nationals do not speak. Two, they will tend to be
somewhat obedient to rules, hierarchy and structure. Three, And most conveniently,
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they will also tend not to have some of the
big exposure points that we don't like in an asset things.
It's like a substance abuse or addiction problem, a gambling problem,
heavy debts, you know, adulterous shdetigans, and so on. So really,
you know, if you put religious beliefs and articles of
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faith aside, and you just look at that type of
person that you would want to hire for an operation
or for a career, then indeed a lot of LDS
missionaries fit the bill perfectly.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Thank you, Ben. That was some much needed context, and
I wasn't even fully remembering all those details. So that's mega,
mega helpful. Going on with James's letter, at month three
of my mission in southern California, there was a lady
whose husband was terminally ill. Her husband didn't want her
to get baptized, and women need their spouse's approval to
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get baptized. So I said, that's too bad. We can
keep teaching you, but it is what it is. The
next meeting we had scheduled. The leaders of the congregation
sent me on splits, quote unquote, I wouldn't be there.
I'm not sure what he means by splits. It must
be sent him on a different mission or sent him
(29:09):
like to like split shifts. Say maybe it's like the
night shift, and let's see if he goes on.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
But it's where full time missionaries pair up with local
members LDS church and that way you double your capability.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yep, you're on the ground capability, So that that must
be what he's referring to. He ultimately is saying, James,
that he was put on this separate side quest so
that he wouldn't be there when they convinced her. Yet,
when the leaders convinced her to divorce her husband so
that she would join the church, I found Yeah, when
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I found out about this, I absolutely lost my my marbles,
he says, my ish and was reported to the mission
president by those ward leaders after I told them what
I thought of them. He sounds like he gave them
what for explain the situation. The mission president told me,
quote the customer is always right, and that it was
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those leaders call. At that point, understandably, James, I became
pretty cynical towards missionary work. But I couldn't leave because
it would be an unwritten shame on me for the
rest of my life if I left just because I
quote couldn't hack it. And we're about to get into
some heavy talk, some self harm talk, and again we
really appreciate James being so candid about this and the
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psychological tolls being put in a situation like this can
have on people's trigger warning here for anyone that doesn't
want to hear about self harm. By year one, I
was secretly cutting myself in the bathroom because I was
in a position where I was telling happy gay couples
that their partnership was unholy and that they needed to
break up so that they could join the church. Fortunately,
any queer folks I did have this conversation with would
(30:50):
just write me off as a religious bigot, rightfully so,
and another quick trigger warning for those listening. Still, we
are going to start to discuss some some potential suicidal ideations,
and again thank you to James for the honesty and
the openness. Eventually, around this time things got pretty dark
and I figured I would just end my own life,
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but I didn't want the mission to be the end
of my life. So I broke down and told my
mission president that I was thinking about this type of thing.
This is, these are these ideations in the hopes that
it would get me sent home. Instead, they got me
in with a church psychiatrist, and, as my current therapist
describes it, did a Brittany on me and put me
on treleptol, which is an Yeah, it's it's an anti
(31:35):
psychotic type medication often described often prescribed for folks experiencing
convulsive seizures. Yeah, and folks with epilepsy. Just really quick
from the Cleveland Clinic dot org. It's medication that comes
in tablet form, prevents and manages seizures if you have epilepsy.
(31:55):
It works by calming over active nerves in your body.
And it sounds inappropriate for this situation if I'm not
reading too deeply in between the lines.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Guys, yeah, I'm seeing just in a couple of places
National Alliance on Mental Illness that has prescribed I do
see episodes.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I do even see suicidal thoughts, plans, or attempts by
you or your family members. Okay, so let's not throw
psychiatry under the bus here. Maybe this is appropriate in
this situation at the same time, though kind of missing
the point right, like we're just going to medicate you
and send you back on your way, not acknowledging what
the actual cause of these thoughts and acts of self
(32:36):
harm work is. That how you guys are reading that, Yeah,
treat the symptom right, treat the symptom exactly, which is
also a very American and not particularly unique here. Sadly,
James goes on after that, I didn't feel anything, and
the next year until I returned home. Is still kind
of a blur. All of this to say, I think
the government agencies love returned Mormon missionary so much because
(33:00):
as they are already pre broken to accept authority and
not question the narrative, Ben, as you very astutely pointed out.
And I think we're getting some confirmation here from the inside.
As for me and my wife, I eventually deconstructed and
got out of the church, but I think I've trauma
dumped enough for one parasocial relationship today. James, we appreciate
(33:22):
you very very much. Not only is this here an
excellent perspective, we are here for you and we we
can't thank you enough for reaching out and Hopefully this
is something kind of perspective that can be useful and
helpful to other folks going through similar situations. So we
do thank you very much and wish you the absolute best,
and you're never there's never too much trauma dumping. We
(33:45):
love to hear from you, and we appreciate you. Let
me know if you have any questions about Mormonism, I'd
love to answer them and we may well take you
up on that, James, or talk about my personal conspiracy
that they are using their two hundred billion dollar stock
fund to influence geopolitics and are a big backer of
the rise in far right politics and zionism globally. Whoa
(34:06):
Bury the lead there, James. Okay, guys, thank you so much. James. Again,
a lot to unpack here. Let's discuss whoa you start?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, what do you do with two hundred billion dollars?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Guys? What do you get into a lot after?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
That's especially if it's a stock fund though, that's like
you know, as we're talking about here with stocks and shareholders,
what that thing is supposed to do is just continually
generate money when you get those returns right on your investments.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Oh, it's a good point. Yeah, you're not really supposed
to liquidate like it's it's meant to sort of sit
there and earn and sort of be like Permo wealth.
That is a good point, Matt. I didn't think about them.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But if you're making enough money and you have enough
money in the system, then you're siphoning it off for purposes.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I don't know, hell money like that. He could probably
reinvest dividends as well. You know, yeah, I'm saying that's
that's that that that you can take those dividends and
cash them in rather than reinvest them. So I'm not
you know, maybe that maybe that's negligible, but for two
hundred billion, I think it would not be negligible, but
maybe not enough to fund geopolitics and back the rise
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and far right politics and Zionism. But it's interesting to
think about.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I tend to agree. And that's also not taking into
account the donations you get on a weekly basis or.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Auditor free of course.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Hmm hmm.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I guess I didn't really think about religious organizations like
this having stock portfolios of this size that And yeah,
of course I hear you, Ben. The Senate of itself
is an interesting bit of info. And I think we
should probably look further into this for a larger conversation,
but maybe backing back up to just the inside perspective
of why someone who has been sort of beaten down
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by an organization and made comply would be of such
interest to intelligence. Why are their drill instructors, Why is
their seer school.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Guys have been downloading some government films from the nineteen
twenties through the fifties because we are going to do
another fun little adventure pretty soon with Virgin voyages, and
I'm getting a head start on some of the video
assets for that. One of them is from a series
from the War Department called Why We Fight. This is
(36:32):
some World War two generation stuff been propaganda aimed at
the American people created by the War Department, and I'm
just going through there looking at the reasoning for why
a human being will choose to go to war. They're
talking about people who range from immigrants from all over
(36:55):
across the world coming to the United States and wanting
to fight for the US military, or they're talking about
the poor people and the rich people, and the doctors
and the plumbers who end up going to war and
why because of the idea that's why they go to
war because of the idea of what America is, what
it stands for, and all of these things, and it
(37:16):
just it makes me think about the same concept here
with CIA recruiting and the spoopy, stoopy boys that need
to get you in there and really brainwash you to understand,
this is why you're doing these horrific things to all
of those folks around you and to yourself even you're
doing this because of an idea, and just how creepy
(37:39):
and insidious that is, but also great and patriotic.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, potentially. Well, with that, let's take a quick break
and then we will return with today's last bit of
listener mail.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Thank you again to James, and we have returned for
the last bit of our weekly listener mail segment. Thank
you to Inconspicuous, Thank you very much to James, and
thank you in advance to Niek the Greek. Now, before
(38:14):
we get into Nicks into Niecks game changing statement, we'll
see whether that's pretty good. In a second, I'd like
to share, if I bay guys, some footage of a
soccer game as we call it in the States, or
a what's the rest of the world call it football football.
Speaker 9 (38:34):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
All right, now, guys, this is just going to be
a quick clip. It's I promise it won't take very long.
And I want you to help all of us listening
at home and point out on Mike when you hear
the announcers sound a little bit funny. Okay, are we
ready to play?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
The Swedish team's exits.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
They're dancing at speed.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Get hams and appears well there, glum glum.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
He takes a cross shot and the fullback is so close,
but when he attacks he looks even better than you.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
Cray how difficult defensive transitions are for Ukraine, and more specifically,
what it would be for Timichi, who ultimately tries to
make things uncomfortable, does what he can and intelligently knows
when to stop holding on so as nah.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Not to make.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Okay, we'll stop it. There was there a point where you,
guys thought this might sound a little bit weird.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Is she having a stroke or something so has not
to stop? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Is she having like a brain event, a fugue state?
What are we talking about here?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Pretty interesting?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Right?
Speaker 4 (39:48):
This is where we join up with Nick the Greek,
who says gentlemen, I hope this email finds you well
and unencumbered by AI slop in every orifice and facet
of your life. Today I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Another day, another encounter with AI trying to take over
and invade every aspect of our lives. Is there any
(40:11):
place we can go to check out where technology or
AI is not trying to abrasively or poorly take over
and for man, sports is a place of escape and
a place that feels like AI was still absent that
time came to an end.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
What we have just played is a.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Clip from a clip from a game that Nick you
sent us. You said I was watching highlights from recent
international soccer matches, and it is abundantly obvious that TUDN
and maybe other networks are inserting AI commentators into their broadcast.
If not in the live broadcast, it is certainly present
(40:53):
in the highlights some pause there.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
It's an audio version of the extra.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Finger who uploaded the video we just watched.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
If you would like to see the video, folks, go
to tud ED USA and Tennessee. I will pull it
if there are licensing issues, but I think they'd be
proud of it.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
So this was the official highlights on their official YouTube channel.
This isn't like an re upload, you know, somebody right
posting it somewhere, because we know the manipulation can happen
in between an official broadcast and then new voiceover could
be put under it. But this appears to be the
one they put out.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
That is correct. This was published seven days ago, as
we record, on Friday, April third, the highlights of the
Ukraine versus Sweden game. Back toneath the Greek it says, Look,
while I can understand that this network may be trying
to increase the quantity of languages in which they cheaply
(41:54):
can include commentary, I would significantly prefer either a no
commentary at all, or be the native language, which I
always find entertaining. And there, Nik, you link us to
this Ukraine versus Sweden highlights video where you said you
first encountered truly awful AI commentary And I love this phrase.
(42:15):
Here this is me editorializing. I love this phrase. The
AI commentary must be some of the strangest spoken word
I've ever heard during a broadcast. Spoken word pretty new
way to look at.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
It, spoken in tongues.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Word, Oh yes, yeah, Nold. Do you want to tell
everybody what an ullulation is? Do you want to do one?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Sometimes I confuse it with gloss alalia, where you're like
the speaking in tongues, which is an official term for that.
To me, this is a combination of the two. Ullulation
is just where you kind of.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, Nik, you're saying, from start to finish,
there's nothing truly that may any logical sense. It is
all beyond absurd. Almost every sentence is quotable, but here
are numerous quotes to highlight the pure absurdity. We'll just
give you a few because gosh darn, Nick, this really
(43:15):
sets you off. So you included a lot of quotations
that just get weirder and weirder. We're not going to
do funny voices on this one, folks quote. He cuts
back and goes back again. He goes and asks for
it close to the wing and goes to Miko Lenko.
From there, he tried to pass to himself. There's nothing,
says the referee, a foul that was not completely called.
(43:37):
The referee, very attentive, said there's nothing impossible. What yeah, yeah,
And this is audio running over this very same highlight video.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
It's also giving lovecrafty and summoning ritual a little bit.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
There it is.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Yeah, yeah, the shot, the shot hit him like this.
The Ukrainian team was doing it, okay. I mean that
I could hear a human saying that, here's what the
team is dry. And then they lift the ball, looked
and the third one is coming. The third one is coming.
The third one is coming. Penalty, yes, sir, very good penalty.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
How he deceives to go to the right.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I gotta do a translation thing, That's what I was
gonna say. Do we think this is an original language
broadcast that went out and then the company sent it
through the translation systems that we on this show are
very familiar with that can that can, at least on paper,
translate any language to any other language, and can also
(44:49):
generate a speaking voice of someone, and that speaking voice
can regurgitate the words in any language you wish.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
Right, though imperfectly similar to our recent episode about bringing
back the dead via death bots and things like that,
This translation if it's happening, and I'm on board with
that concept as well. Niet the Greek, it may be
just a matter of being unable to grasp idioms or
(45:21):
the nuances of translations, especially of verbs. Right they lift
the ball or do they get the ball? Do they
obtain the ball? Or do we have to do this
live and end up saying really weird stuff?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
It's so crazy. The team is dry.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
The team is dry?
Speaker 4 (45:39):
Right now, Nick the Greek, you know, welcome to the
Crazy Bills Party.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
We are thrilled to share in hilarious dystopian horror with
you and all of your fellow listeners. Before we get
to of the one of the best quotes from this
clip that the Greek sent us, I'd like to ask you,
guys who was well Tennessee, what do you think about
the future of AI commentary. Should people or should companies
(46:09):
be translating on the fly like this? Are they replacing
human commentators?
Speaker 3 (46:15):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (46:16):
Are you for it or again it as we used
to say on car stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Well, I'm for the jobs. Okay. There's a lot of
great commentators out there.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Folks who have been waiting their entire life to be
on that microphone just watching play by play action. They
know all the team members, they've studied for days getting
ready for this game, and they're incredible at it and
they're funny, they're witty, and you get actual human moments
when you got two of them working together. Dylan, what
(46:46):
do you think?
Speaker 5 (46:48):
Well, two things. I'm against it in Mexico band AI
voice acting recently, so I have to have a human
do dubbing, which is great. Also, guys, I thought that
the reviewal of that clip was going to be they
might have been doing the deed in the studio. That's
what I thought.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
It's Oh, that's what Oh stop, yeah, exactly. Maybe that's
what's happening. Maybe the fault is not in our programming,
but in ourselves. To paraphrase Shakespeare. We responded to Unique
and we set Unique. We responded to you and we said,
(47:28):
there are two potential paths. There's definitely AI commentary. One
path is an audience player announcer backlash. Right public outcry
cuts this kind of program short because companies, unlike governments,
they will tend to back off from anything that poses
too much of a financial threat. Right, you vote with
(47:48):
the dollar, you vote with the income. The second path
is that a lack of outcry creates a window of
time for the AI announcement process to improve, to get
better at those idioms, those cadences, those intonations, and we
have to remember that a significant amount of viewers may
not realize AI is in play, especially if they are
(48:09):
hearing announcements in a language that they don't speak. I mean,
this is this is exciting, terrifying stuff. As you put it,
meet the Greek. It is nonsense, It is hilarious, and
you are scared. That's the way the letter ends. Before
we get to the final line, wrap up our listener
(48:30):
mail program. Guys, where do you think AI commentary is
going in the future? What do you think about those
two paths I pitched? Will there be outcry?
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Or yes?
Speaker 3 (48:39):
I think there will be, as there should be. You know,
this also reminds me of is like really hilarious subtitle
mistakes during exporting events, because I guess back in the
day I pictured, you know, human beings furiously typing those
out and making very human mistakes, whereas now the nature
of those mistakes is going to be patently less human, right.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Like an American football version back in the eighties or
nineties with nineteen eighties or nineteen nineties would be something
like and he's all over them, but he can't get
a hold of his balls. You know, yeah, they be
you know, ball singular. But I think that's a great point,
(49:21):
and nol we also, I don't know. It seems it
seems inevitable because it returns to us under the sheep's
wool of better communication. Right, we're all watching, you know,
a sumo wrestling match. Usually there would be someone translating
that into Spanish or English or Chinese or what have you.
(49:43):
But if they try an ai translation, as we can
tell you from limited personal experience, it typically misses a
lot of the soul of what the human speakers are
attempting to convey. You know, we've had to listen to
submitterations of that.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Turns out human beings are the soul of wit.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
There it is, there it is. We're gonna keep this
last part of our segment brief. I'd like to, if
it's okay with everybody, share one of my favorite quotes
that Niek the Greek brought to us. Are you ready, Wow,
tough crowd, Here it goes. I'm gonna do it in
(50:27):
the most neutral voice possible. Furthermore, I was telling you
about the good football they have always played. They have
always played, they have always been a very charismatic team,
and today they are very and today they are very
You know, so do and so do. Shout out to
(50:48):
always Study in Philadelphia, Shout out to Eat Conspicuous, Shout
out to James, Shout out to Niek the Greek, and
shout out to everybody who's going to chime in with
their own experiences regarding corporate governance, regarding the ins and
outs of hiring spoopy doop people, and who gets at
(51:10):
the top of the list. And please, please please tell
us your favorite examples of AI commentary. We can't wait
to hear from you. You can always find us on
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The Evening of Publishers. Folks, Welcome to Thursday, April ninth.
We couldn't be more excited to have you hang in
with us. We have received so many amazing email correspondencies.
(01:01):
People have reached out to us on the lines, social
and telephonic alike. We're going to get some fantastic feedback
on a Latter Day Saints from Mormon perspective. On a
recent conversation, We're going to have a little bit of
play along at home with AI commentary Before we do
(01:22):
any of that. We were talking off air briefly about
some breaking news. The US does have boots on the
ground in Iran. Now though very monkey's finger curls kind
of way. An F fifteen E Strike Eagle out of
the forty ninth fighter Squadron has been downed. One crew
(01:45):
member may have been killed. The other one, according to
the current Iranian government, has been captured. So boots on
the ground, but not the way the Potus wanted.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, dang, I mean, I just what do we think
anything is gonna come of that? It's just something that
happens in war. Sometimes planes get knocked down out of
the sky.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
That military operation, if.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You please, uh well, see it seems like maybe we
can't decide if it's war or military operation.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
We sure as shooting can't, at least rhetorically. And I
love it when when Trump said the quiet part out
loud and literally saying I'm not supposed to call it
that because calling it that requires approval, and then.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
It is.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, it says I'm not supposed to say that.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
He does do that. It's like internal monologue of a child.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
It's like it's like when someone is a really bad
cold reader and they're saying, oh, you know someone who
was dead at some point and their name was Shiv
Jimba Derrek.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I actually will I take back what I said. Not
the internal monologue of a child. It's like a child
when they talk until they get an idea and just
sort of like, you know, just dance around a thing
until they sort of get it out.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You know, Hey, can we talk about another quick piece
of news, just because you probably won't be able to
talk about this on the next strange news it'll be
too far gone. Recently, do we remember Matt Gates.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Do you know this fellow.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Er?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, he said twelve year olds if I'm not mistaken
right now, But he's alien.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, So statement that he got it made recently was
about a human alien hybrid program, like a breeding program
that he's aware of as though it's just a real
thing and it exists and he knows about it, and
that would you know? That's weird af already, right, It
does align perfectly with the X Files major plot. But
(04:03):
there's another thing that happened after that that I think
is even more interesting, at least personally, guys, and that
is good old Tennessee Representative Timbershet. He made an appearance
on that Newsmax place and he was discussing UAP, commenting
on the things that Matt gets said about this human
(04:23):
alien breeding program thing, and he dropped a little quote
about guess who. I'm just just really quick here. He says,
there are no coincidences in this town. These folks have
disappeared or died mysteriously. I think overall, I think there's
(04:46):
a connection there. People just do not disappear, not in
this day and age. For the record, I'm not suicidal
and I don't take risks, right. So, like there's a
congressman saying, hey, it's kind of weird all these folks disappearing,
and they were the ones that were associated with the
special access programs that even the president, the current standing
(05:09):
president does not have access to.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Or does not have the ability to recollect.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Timershett specifically says that there are people in rooms when
he and other congressmen are trying to get the information
about these special access programs that McCaslin had access to.
He's trying to get this out of the generals that
sit in the rooms with the congressman as they're being briefed,
and the congressmen are unallowed is the word he the
(05:36):
term he used, unallowed to give any specifics on any
of the things. But they now know where these trails
lead and the Congress people who have been briefed actually
know the right questions to ask of the right organizations
within the government to truly get this information out to
the public.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Yeah, and Matt, this is news to me actually About'm
looking at the independence reporting on this, And Gates said
on the Benny Johnson talk program show The Benny Show,
I guess he's a one of podcasts favorite.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Ben's right with the radio Ben Johnson.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
One hundred percent. He said that he was given this
information rather briefed by a uniformed US Army official. He
says he was briefed on the locations of hybrid breeding
programs where captured aliens we're breeding with humans to create
some hybrid race that include that could engage in intergalactic communications.
And forgive me if I'm restating anything that's been said,
(06:33):
but guys, I wouldn't be shocked if this were totally true.
At this point, there's just nothing that would really knock
my wig back.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
He also Gates said he received this information at his
office in Florida in a quote non classified Saturday, and
so more stuff to think about.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
More on the way.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Tune into our weekly Strange news program. Look, Uh, these
folks are all in kind of monkey's paw, and there's
a lot of very valid questioning regarding their motivations. But
we have far less skepticism about our favorite part of
the show, You, our fellow conspiracy realist. So what say
(07:15):
we take a pause for a word from our sponsors,
and then we'll get right to it. I think we're
going to hear from an inconspicuous individual after the break.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh, you are so right, Ben. We are going to
hear from inconspicuous because he's been listening to many of
our episodes recently where we talk about it ron, we
talk about missiles, we talk about the military industrial complex
and all the fun stuff that happens in there in
the history of it. So he is going to tell
us a little story about a specific weapon that may
(07:53):
have to do with some of these energy weapons. It's
like a hybrid energy weapon, maybe let's think of it
that way. Thempting conspicuous.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
Hello, guys, on this is inconspicuous, and I want you
to check out the Coyote Block three from Raytheon.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Two thrown destroyer, the big eything that just goes up
in covers in the air, until drones get close and
it uses microwaves to fry entire fleet to drone.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
And then it just comes back down and it is
caught by a net and then.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Up again.
Speaker 9 (08:35):
What's reusable anti drone technology developed by your friendly neighborhood
read just thought it here you guys, take care and
three us too.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh so a flying coyote, you say from Ratheon the Raytheon.
We are aware of this organization. We've talked about them
for a long time. Guys posted a little link here
to the coyote c h uas from Raytheon and RTX business.
(09:09):
Seems like a fascinating little machine. It looks like a
bit like a missile. You know, you may have seen
some of these missiles before that are launched from the
back of a truck or what looks like a shipping
container that is being towed by a larger vehicle. Looks
like a missile. But as soon as it ejects from
the system, little wings pop out in the mid area,
(09:32):
like you know, traditional airplane wings, and then the tail
wings pop out in the back. And then this thing's
got a jet booster on it. It's got a little
jet engine on it, and it flies around, and you
can see videos from RTX of this thing in action.
It's important to know, inconspicuous that there are several versions
(09:52):
of this thing. There is the Coyote Block two, which
is a kinetic weapon. This is the kind of thing
that we've heard of recently with the Iran conflict where
when missiles are coming in at a target, this thing
could be used to be shot as a defensive measure
to go up there. They're called effectors E F F, E, C,
(10:13):
T O RS to go up and then intercept that
missile with a kinetic weapon a warhead on it and
destroy that missile. Then you've got the Coyote Block three
n K, which is the one inconspicuous that you're talking about.
This thing. It really does. It flies up into the
air and instead of they call it a non kinetic payload,
(10:34):
it flies around and then it uses essentially signals, interference
and energy an energy weapon of sorts to disable these
drone swarms. And it seems like it's crazy powerful. They're well,
at least again we're looking at videos that are created
by RTX, which is a company that sells missiles and
things like the Coyote Bloc three. So it is kind
(10:57):
of a promotional video. I mean, I guess we can
think of it that way, guys, almost like a trailer
for a new product when you see some of the testing.
But it does look impressive. It looks super impressive, some of.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Which those trailers you're talking about, Which is so funny
that that is that a relatively recent phenomenon, these like
you know trailers much No, I guess I've only been
seeing it lately. But very propagandistic feeling is what I'm
getting there.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Yes, well, if you think think back to all the
times we've talked about these huge conventions that go on
multiple times a year in multiple countries across the globe,
where it's basically an arms convention. You know, it's not
just for the US military. We're going to get into
it here in just a moment. It is for dozens
(11:44):
of militaries, air forces, navies, armies across the world. So
let's let's dive a bit into rt X, which was
formerly Raytheon Technologies. This is a multinational defense aerospace conglomerate.
They also have sub conglomerates Collins Aerospace and Pratt and
(12:08):
Whitney things two other groups we're going to talk about
briefly here. But RTX, you, guys, RTX has everything. Mostly
they have billions of dollars in contracts with organizations such
as the US air Force, Navy, and Marine Corps, as
well as other similar contracts with other countries and militaries
across the world. If we look at these conglomerates that
(12:29):
they have underneath them, we can look at the Collins
Radio Company, which combined with Rockwell International to become Rockwell
Collins Incorporated, which then combined with United Technologies Corporation and
became Collins Aerospace, and then that turned into the RTX Corporation.
You could also look at the Pratt and Whitney Aircraft Company,
(12:51):
which combined with United Aircraft and Transport Corporation and became
United Aircraft Corporation, which then became Technologies and added a
Raytheon Company, which became a Ratheon Technologies and now is
RTX Corporation. The whole point here, guys, is that these
are just huge corporations that in existence that had government
(13:15):
contracts to produce specific things like in Pratt and Whitney's case,
engines for the kinds of jet fighters that we just
talked about at the open of this show. They make
these very expensive, incredibly powerful pieces of technology, and then
they sell them to governments, or they sell the idea
(13:38):
of these things to governments with these trailers that we're
talking about nol So you got to make the trailer like,
you know, talk up the new tech. Then somebody from
the government comes in and gives you billions of dollars.
In the case of Raitheon or RTX, you're talking about
eighty to ninety billion dollars that you get in government contracts.
(14:00):
Seems like a lot of money, right it does. The
other thing about huge corporations like this is they realize
they need to have a subscription model that's a little
ad on, so they operate more than forty engine overhaul
and maintenance centers across the globe because their technology powers
twenty seven air forces around the world. Guys, twenty seven
(14:22):
different air forces. Does that feel weird to anybody? Twenty
three official customers in twenty two countries where they are
selling this military technology for jets, for missiles, for non
kinetic solutions and effectors.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's normalized, but it should not
be normalized. The military defense industry is not restricted to
the United States, and pretty much everybody with the money
who is not hamstrung by sanctions wants to play the
game with the coolest new toys.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Right right, And you got to have those coolest new
toys to be the secret knife guy.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Right.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And then we talked about in a previous episode, speaking
of secret knife Guy, let's talk about one other little
conglomerate that exists underneath RTX. We've got that Pratt and
Whitney that we talked about making the jet propulsion engines.
They also make space propulsion with Pratt and Whitney Space
Propulsion a completely different company. They combined with this group
(15:32):
called Rocket Dyne, Propulsion and Power to become Pratt and
Whitney Rocket Dyne, which then brought gen Corp into the mix,
and then Aerojet into the mix to create Aerojet Rocket Dyne. Guys,
do remember talking about them recently?
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Aerojetcket dying.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
That's incredible, That's incredible, do Ben?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
What did we talk about them in regards to.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Ah, Yes, the future of a skynet And if I'm
recolding correctly, we also discussed we discussed the pros and
cons of having something like rocket dying around not to
be confused with a Cyberdyne. Rocket Dying is part of
(16:18):
L three Harris Technologies. They make liquid and solid rocket
engines for defense and space. You may recognize their earlier
work from the Saturn five.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Absolutely, they also had a really important person working for
them who created this thing called Monday. Her name is
Monica Jacinto Reza.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Hopefully one still is. Hopefully we don't have to speak
in about her past tense just yet, but she is
one of several disappearances recently linked to a disappearing major general, who,
at the time of recording this listener mail segment Friday,
April third, has yet to be found himself.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Correct. Well, guys, Bober here inconspicuous, thank you for taking
us down this rabbit hole. I know this maybe isn't
what you want us to talk about, but I would
love just quickly to get into corporate governance. Can we
do that? I know it's kind of dry, I think
it's an episode. Okay, yeah, well, let's make corporate governents
(17:27):
an episode because do it?
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Or dubs, Matt, can you give okay, can you give
me the audience and adouf of what we mean with
corporate governmance?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Absolutely, Guys, when you think about giant multinational conglomerates, who
do you picture in your mind as the leader of
one of those things?
Speaker 8 (17:45):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Well, unrelated news, it looks like Iran has yet to
attack the tech giants. It said it was going to
begin attacking on April first.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
But in terms of.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Wait, didn't it damage Amazon?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I thought it did.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
They didn't do the sort of shock and all. They
didn't get everybody on their list just yet. But they
didn't do necessarily what they said they were going to
do in full. But that's how to roof works. It's
a fancy Persian word for negotiation. Anyhow, to your direct
question there, we are asking who we picture as the
(18:21):
human being the dagga, right, the big pooba of running
corporate governance. Gosh, I imagine it's got to be someone
very chill and very cool, probably like Zipcroft, probably great
at yes, And is any of that off base?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
Maybe?
Speaker 10 (18:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
I genuinely don't know. I'm just talking about the position,
because like, if you think about Amazon, Noel Amazon, who's
the first first person you think of?
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Lex Luthor?
Speaker 10 (18:51):
Okay, bald Man, what about Apple? George of the Jungle,
Tim Apple?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
You can't Tim Cook.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
The point is often, and I think purposefully so, both
by the corporations and by perhaps other powers. When we
think about these giant multinational conglomerates, we think about the
chief executive officer. I mean, they're the chief it's in
the name, right, But these folks, when it comes to
a corporation's governance, they aren't actually the top folks, not
(19:29):
the CEO, not the chief operating officer, or the financial
officer or the technology officer. No, those guys have bosses,
and those bosses are the boards of directors. And often
we don't know the first thing about a giant multinationals
board of directors, although if you go to their official websites,
(19:51):
all of them have to have a list of the
board of directors. At least many of them like to
do that. And there's a reason for that too, and
we're going to get to it. But it is weird
to think that there's just a group of people that
sit at the top of a corporate structure making the
actual big decisions, because these are the folks that appoint
(20:13):
Jensen Wang or Ted Sarandos or Elon Musk. These are
the folks that appoint the CEO to a corporate's structure,
and then that CEO goes out and becomes the main
face and voice of that corporation and perhaps the target
of negative stuff and also the bringer of the positive stuff.
When you think about a giant multinational when it comes
(20:36):
to RTX, you can go to RTX dot com, slash
who Dash wi dash are slash corporate dash Governance, or
you need to search for corporate governance RTX and you
can find their board of directors. And where you're gonna
find are a lot of people who are formerly in
charge of other big stuff no longer have that position,
but now they are on the board of directors for
(20:57):
this group and perhaps several other boards of giant corporations.
Just to point this out, the board of directors that
we don't think about very often really are the folks
in charge, except for they also have masters, because they
are sitting there in fine leather chairs in offices towering
(21:19):
over Manhattan. But these masters, yeah, they have masters, the
primary shareholders, because ultimately a corporation is beholden to the shareholders.
And always a large corporation, especially ones like RTX that
make eighty eight billion dollars in a year. They're beholden
to the primary shareholders like Vanguard Group if you check
(21:41):
out RTX Corporation on Yahoo Finance, or Blackrock Incorporated, or
Capital Research Global Investors or JP Morgan Chase and Co.
Or Morgan Stanley or the Bank of America, and it
just makes you start to see this picture of these
large financial institutions that have one hundred and twenty four
(22:03):
point nine nine million shares to the value of twenty
four point five billion dollars invested into this corporation, or
Bank of America, who has five billion dollars invested into
this corporation. You just see how the financial system in
the US is tied directly back to how well these
weapons manufacturers function.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
No, one hundred percent. I mean it's like that's you
know the talk lately too around like where the US
stands in terms of its cultural significance or it's like
global importance in terms of like gross domestic product, and
like what do we make? What are we known for?
It's that it's weapons, It's it's it's war. It's like
(22:47):
precision strikes. You know, that just seems like that's what
we're focused on more and more rather than manufacturing of
things that you know, people can use, or like say,
bullet trains or you know, the best kind of self
driving vehicles like the rest of the world's God has
utterly spanked on those things specifically, like you know, China
(23:08):
and Japan, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, if these companies don't grow, if they don't have
those quarterly increases to their profits, then investors get a
little scared and they might move away from it. So
you got to do things like mergers and acquisitions. If
you go back, listen, listen to earlier in this episode,
we listed out so many different corporations that got merged
or acquired throughout the process of becoming what is now
(23:33):
RTX Corporation. They're all inside there, one hundred and eighty
thousand employees, all working for this weapons manufacturer. Doesn't make
me feel very good. We all right, that's all, thanks
and Conspicuous will be right back after a word from
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Speaker 3 (23:57):
And we have returned with listener. This one coming to
us from James, and this one that Ben teezed at
the top, A bit of an inside perspective from somebody
who grew up in the Mormon Church, specifically regarding missionary
work that they do. So I'm just gonna read it
from the top and then we can just discuss. Hey, y'all,
I love your podcast. Thanks James. I'm a longtime listener,
(24:20):
first time emailer, and was super stoked when you all
had questions about the Mormon Church because it's one of
the things I have personal experience with. I grew up
as a sixth generation Mormon in Cash Valley, Utah, until
I was thirteen, and ended up having the culture shock
of going from an area where everyone was white and
Mormon to Columbus, Ohio, And at fourteen, I moved to
the Tifton, Georgia area. We're familiar with that very agricultural,
(24:43):
if I'm not mistake. That's where a back Abraham Baldwin
Agricultural College is located. It's like a farming school, and
that sounds awesome. You well, yeah, it is a lovely place,
but it is very agrerian, for sure, no question about it.
And then at fifteen ended up in North Carolina. Throughout
that time, a lot of the inherent bigotry that was
(25:03):
ingrained in me slowly broke, mostly because I wanted to
have friends and it's hard to make friends when you
think your views are God's chosen ones and that everyone
else is destined to be some sort of you know,
Kendall ghost, right. I guess we're referencing I'm.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
No downstairs, No downstairs.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
We're referencing what's his name, Alan Rickman in Dogma, which
maybe that's a reference that folks may not remember, but
that was a Kevin Smith farcical kind of satire about religion,
and in that Rickman was an angel who was portrayed
as having no genitals. So I think that's what we're
(25:44):
talking about here. Think Kennon Barbie, while you become a
God who's procreating with all of your spirit wives, boy
to make spirit children.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I you not.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
This is the core Mormon doctrine. And taking a quick
pause here to just make sure everyone knows we're not here.
We know that the Mormon Church has changed, we know
that polygamy is no longer the order of the day.
We are just reading a perspective from someone with some
inside experience. We're not here to yuck anybody's religious yums.
Eventually it got to the point where I was going
(26:18):
to church and believing these things while also lying to
my parents and going to GSA meetings so that I
could be around the queer friends who had adopted me
as their astray. Thank God for them and their patients
and helping me lay the groundwork to help break myself
ten years later. But then I went on a mission,
and the mission is why I think the CIA ect
(26:41):
loves Mormons. Guys. Can we remind listeners real quick where
that perspective is from. That is the specific mention I
think that James is referencing. We were talking about the
CIA recruiting Mormons being a bit of a thing that
is being discussed, or maybe it's a relatively new thing,
or at least it's been in the news lately.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Sure, yeah, James, thank you again for your excellent email
to reiterate what they'd said previously and perhaps on other shows.
The US intelligence agencies and supposedly a lot of other
intelligence agencies for a long time, not recently, have loved
or prioritize members of the LDS Church, particularly after they
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do their two year bid as missionaries for the same church.
The reason that intelligence agencies will tend to look at
these people in hiring is that they will one tend
to speak a language that a lot of other US
nationals do not speak. Two, they will tend to be
somewhat obedient to rules, hierarchy and structure. Three, And most conveniently,
(27:52):
they will also tend not to have some of the
big exposure points that we don't like in an asset things.
It's like a substance abuse or addiction problem, a gambling problem,
heavy debts, you know, adulterous shdetigans, and so on. So really,
you know, if you put religious beliefs and articles of
(28:15):
faith aside, and you just look at that type of
person that you would want to hire for an operation
or for a career, then indeed a lot of LDS
missionaries fit the bill perfectly.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Thank you, Ben. That was some much needed context, and
I wasn't even fully remembering all those details. So that's mega,
mega helpful. Going on with James's letter, at month three
of my mission in southern California, there was a lady
whose husband was terminally ill. Her husband didn't want her
to get baptized, and women need their spouse's approval to
(28:48):
get baptized. So I said, that's too bad. We can
keep teaching you, but it is what it is. The
next meeting we had scheduled. The leaders of the congregation
sent me on splits, quote unquote, I wouldn't be there.
I'm not sure what he means by splits. It must
be sent him on a different mission or sent him
(29:09):
like to like split shifts. Say maybe it's like the
night shift, and let's see if he goes on.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
But it's where full time missionaries pair up with local
members LDS church and that way you double your capability.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yep, you're on the ground capability, So that that must
be what he's referring to. He ultimately is saying, James,
that he was put on this separate side quest so
that he wouldn't be there when they convinced her. Yet,
when the leaders convinced her to divorce her husband so
that she would join the church, I found Yeah, when
(29:44):
I found out about this, I absolutely lost my my marbles,
he says, my ish and was reported to the mission
president by those ward leaders after I told them what
I thought of them. He sounds like he gave them
what for explain the situation. The mission president told me,
quote the customer is always right, and that it was
(30:05):
those leaders call. At that point, understandably, James, I became
pretty cynical towards missionary work. But I couldn't leave because
it would be an unwritten shame on me for the
rest of my life if I left just because I
quote couldn't hack it. And we're about to get into
some heavy talk, some self harm talk, and again we
really appreciate James being so candid about this and the
(30:28):
psychological tolls being put in a situation like this can
have on people's trigger warning here for anyone that doesn't
want to hear about self harm. By year one, I
was secretly cutting myself in the bathroom because I was
in a position where I was telling happy gay couples
that their partnership was unholy and that they needed to
break up so that they could join the church. Fortunately,
any queer folks I did have this conversation with would
(30:50):
just write me off as a religious bigot, rightfully so,
and another quick trigger warning for those listening. Still, we
are going to start to discuss some some potential suicidal ideations,
and again thank you to James for the honesty and
the openness. Eventually, around this time things got pretty dark
and I figured I would just end my own life,
(31:11):
but I didn't want the mission to be the end
of my life. So I broke down and told my
mission president that I was thinking about this type of thing.
This is, these are these ideations in the hopes that
it would get me sent home. Instead, they got me
in with a church psychiatrist, and, as my current therapist
describes it, did a Brittany on me and put me
on treleptol, which is an Yeah, it's it's an anti
(31:35):
psychotic type medication often described often prescribed for folks experiencing
convulsive seizures. Yeah, and folks with epilepsy. Just really quick
from the Cleveland Clinic dot org. It's medication that comes
in tablet form, prevents and manages seizures if you have epilepsy.
(31:55):
It works by calming over active nerves in your body.
And it sounds inappropriate for this situation if I'm not
reading too deeply in between the lines.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Guys, yeah, I'm seeing just in a couple of places
National Alliance on Mental Illness that has prescribed I do
see episodes.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
I do even see suicidal thoughts, plans, or attempts by
you or your family members. Okay, so let's not throw
psychiatry under the bus here. Maybe this is appropriate in
this situation at the same time, though kind of missing
the point right, like we're just going to medicate you
and send you back on your way, not acknowledging what
the actual cause of these thoughts and acts of self
(32:36):
harm work is. That how you guys are reading that, Yeah,
treat the symptom right, treat the symptom exactly, which is
also a very American and not particularly unique here. Sadly,
James goes on after that, I didn't feel anything, and
the next year until I returned home. Is still kind
of a blur. All of this to say, I think
the government agencies love returned Mormon missionary so much because
(33:00):
as they are already pre broken to accept authority and
not question the narrative, Ben, as you very astutely pointed out.
And I think we're getting some confirmation here from the inside.
As for me and my wife, I eventually deconstructed and
got out of the church, but I think I've trauma
dumped enough for one parasocial relationship today. James, we appreciate
(33:22):
you very very much. Not only is this here an
excellent perspective, we are here for you and we we
can't thank you enough for reaching out and Hopefully this
is something kind of perspective that can be useful and
helpful to other folks going through similar situations. So we
do thank you very much and wish you the absolute best,
and you're never there's never too much trauma dumping. We
(33:45):
love to hear from you, and we appreciate you. Let
me know if you have any questions about Mormonism, I'd
love to answer them and we may well take you
up on that, James, or talk about my personal conspiracy
that they are using their two hundred billion dollar stock
fund to influence geopolitics and are a big backer of
the rise in far right politics and zionism globally. Whoa
(34:06):
Bury the lead there, James. Okay, guys, thank you so much. James. Again,
a lot to unpack here. Let's discuss whoa you start?
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, what do you do with two hundred billion dollars?
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Guys? What do you get into a lot after?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
That's especially if it's a stock fund though, that's like
you know, as we're talking about here with stocks and shareholders,
what that thing is supposed to do is just continually
generate money when you get those returns right on your investments.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Oh, it's a good point. Yeah, you're not really supposed
to liquidate like it's it's meant to sort of sit
there and earn and sort of be like Permo wealth.
That is a good point, Matt. I didn't think about them.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
But if you're making enough money and you have enough
money in the system, then you're siphoning it off for purposes.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
I don't know, hell money like that. He could probably
reinvest dividends as well. You know, yeah, I'm saying that's
that's that that that you can take those dividends and
cash them in rather than reinvest them. So I'm not
you know, maybe that maybe that's negligible, but for two
hundred billion, I think it would not be negligible, but
maybe not enough to fund geopolitics and back the rise
(35:20):
and far right politics and Zionism. But it's interesting to
think about.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I tend to agree. And that's also not taking into
account the donations you get on a weekly basis or.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Auditor free of course.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Hmm hmm.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
I guess I didn't really think about religious organizations like
this having stock portfolios of this size that And yeah,
of course I hear you, Ben. The Senate of itself
is an interesting bit of info. And I think we
should probably look further into this for a larger conversation,
but maybe backing back up to just the inside perspective
of why someone who has been sort of beaten down
(35:57):
by an organization and made comply would be of such
interest to intelligence. Why are their drill instructors, Why is
their seer school.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Guys have been downloading some government films from the nineteen
twenties through the fifties because we are going to do
another fun little adventure pretty soon with Virgin voyages, and
I'm getting a head start on some of the video
assets for that. One of them is from a series
from the War Department called Why We Fight. This is
(36:32):
some World War two generation stuff been propaganda aimed at
the American people created by the War Department, and I'm
just going through there looking at the reasoning for why
a human being will choose to go to war. They're
talking about people who range from immigrants from all over
(36:55):
across the world coming to the United States and wanting
to fight for the US military, or they're talking about
the poor people and the rich people, and the doctors
and the plumbers who end up going to war and
why because of the idea that's why they go to
war because of the idea of what America is, what
it stands for, and all of these things, and it
(37:16):
just it makes me think about the same concept here
with CIA recruiting and the spoopy, stoopy boys that need
to get you in there and really brainwash you to understand,
this is why you're doing these horrific things to all
of those folks around you and to yourself even you're
doing this because of an idea, and just how creepy
(37:39):
and insidious that is, but also great and patriotic.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Yeah, potentially. Well, with that, let's take a quick break
and then we will return with today's last bit of
listener mail.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Thank you again to James, and we have returned for
the last bit of our weekly listener mail segment. Thank
you to Inconspicuous, Thank you very much to James, and
thank you in advance to Niek the Greek. Now, before
(38:14):
we get into Nicks into Niecks game changing statement, we'll
see whether that's pretty good. In a second, I'd like
to share, if I bay guys, some footage of a
soccer game as we call it in the States, or
a what's the rest of the world call it football football.
Speaker 9 (38:34):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
All right, now, guys, this is just going to be
a quick clip. It's I promise it won't take very long.
And I want you to help all of us listening
at home and point out on Mike when you hear
the announcers sound a little bit funny. Okay, are we
ready to play?
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Sure?
Speaker 2 (38:56):
The Swedish team's exits.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
They're dancing at speed.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Get hams and appears well there, glum glum.
Speaker 10 (39:04):
He takes a cross shot and the fullback is so close,
but when he attacks he looks even better than you.
Speaker 8 (39:11):
Cray how difficult defensive transitions are for Ukraine, and more specifically,
what it would be for Timichi, who ultimately tries to
make things uncomfortable, does what he can and intelligently knows
when to stop holding on so as nah.
Speaker 6 (39:28):
Not to make.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Okay, we'll stop it. There was there a point where you,
guys thought this might sound a little bit weird.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Is she having a stroke or something so has not
to stop? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Is she having like a brain event, a fugue state?
What are we talking about here?
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Pretty interesting?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
Right?
Speaker 4 (39:48):
This is where we join up with Nick the Greek,
who says gentlemen, I hope this email finds you well
and unencumbered by AI slop in every orifice and facet
of your life. Today I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
Another day, another encounter with AI trying to take over
and invade every aspect of our lives. Is there any
(40:11):
place we can go to check out where technology or
AI is not trying to abrasively or poorly take over
and for man, sports is a place of escape and
a place that feels like AI was still absent that
time came to an end.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
What we have just played is a.
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Clip from a clip from a game that Nick you
sent us. You said I was watching highlights from recent
international soccer matches, and it is abundantly obvious that TUDN
and maybe other networks are inserting AI commentators into their broadcast.
If not in the live broadcast, it is certainly present
(40:53):
in the highlights some pause there.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
It's an audio version of the extra.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Finger who uploaded the video we just watched.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
If you would like to see the video, folks, go
to tud ED USA and Tennessee. I will pull it
if there are licensing issues, but I think they'd be
proud of it.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
So this was the official highlights on their official YouTube channel.
This isn't like an re upload, you know, somebody right
posting it somewhere, because we know the manipulation can happen
in between an official broadcast and then new voiceover could
be put under it. But this appears to be the
one they put out.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
That is correct. This was published seven days ago, as
we record, on Friday, April third, the highlights of the
Ukraine versus Sweden game. Back toneath the Greek it says, Look,
while I can understand that this network may be trying
to increase the quantity of languages in which they cheaply
(41:54):
can include commentary, I would significantly prefer either a no
commentary at all, or be the native language, which I
always find entertaining. And there, Nik, you link us to
this Ukraine versus Sweden highlights video where you said you
first encountered truly awful AI commentary And I love this phrase.
(42:15):
Here this is me editorializing. I love this phrase. The
AI commentary must be some of the strangest spoken word
I've ever heard during a broadcast. Spoken word pretty new
way to look at.
Speaker 3 (42:28):
It, spoken in tongues.
Speaker 4 (42:30):
Word, Oh yes, yeah, Nold. Do you want to tell
everybody what an ullulation is? Do you want to do one?
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:42):
Sometimes I confuse it with gloss alalia, where you're like
the speaking in tongues, which is an official term for that.
To me, this is a combination of the two. Ullulation
is just where you kind of.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
Right, yeah, yeah, Nik, you're saying, from start to finish,
there's nothing truly that may any logical sense. It is
all beyond absurd. Almost every sentence is quotable, but here
are numerous quotes to highlight the pure absurdity. We'll just
give you a few because gosh darn, Nick, this really
(43:15):
sets you off. So you included a lot of quotations
that just get weirder and weirder. We're not going to
do funny voices on this one, folks quote. He cuts
back and goes back again. He goes and asks for
it close to the wing and goes to Miko Lenko.
From there, he tried to pass to himself. There's nothing,
says the referee, a foul that was not completely called.
(43:37):
The referee, very attentive, said there's nothing impossible. What yeah, yeah,
And this is audio running over this very same highlight video.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
It's also giving lovecrafty and summoning ritual a little bit.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
There it is.
Speaker 4 (43:56):
Yeah, yeah, the shot, the shot hit him like this.
The Ukrainian team was doing it, okay. I mean that
I could hear a human saying that, here's what the
team is dry. And then they lift the ball, looked
and the third one is coming. The third one is coming.
The third one is coming. Penalty, yes, sir, very good penalty.
Speaker 6 (44:19):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
How he deceives to go to the right.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
I gotta do a translation thing, That's what I was
gonna say. Do we think this is an original language
broadcast that went out and then the company sent it
through the translation systems that we on this show are
very familiar with that can that can, at least on paper,
translate any language to any other language, and can also
(44:49):
generate a speaking voice of someone, and that speaking voice
can regurgitate the words in any language you wish.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
Right, though imperfectly similar to our recent episode about bringing
back the dead via death bots and things like that,
This translation if it's happening, and I'm on board with
that concept as well. Niet the Greek, it may be
just a matter of being unable to grasp idioms or
(45:21):
the nuances of translations, especially of verbs. Right they lift
the ball or do they get the ball? Do they
obtain the ball? Or do we have to do this
live and end up saying really weird stuff?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
It's so crazy. The team is dry.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
The team is dry?
Speaker 4 (45:39):
Right now, Nick the Greek, you know, welcome to the
Crazy Bills Party.
Speaker 8 (45:45):
Man.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
We are thrilled to share in hilarious dystopian horror with
you and all of your fellow listeners. Before we get
to of the one of the best quotes from this
clip that the Greek sent us, I'd like to ask you,
guys who was well Tennessee, what do you think about
the future of AI commentary. Should people or should companies
(46:09):
be translating on the fly like this? Are they replacing
human commentators?
Speaker 3 (46:15):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (46:16):
Are you for it or again it as we used
to say on car stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Well, I'm for the jobs. Okay. There's a lot of
great commentators out there.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
Folks who have been waiting their entire life to be
on that microphone just watching play by play action. They
know all the team members, they've studied for days getting
ready for this game, and they're incredible at it and
they're funny, they're witty, and you get actual human moments
when you got two of them working together. Dylan, what
(46:46):
do you think?
Speaker 5 (46:48):
Well, two things. I'm against it in Mexico band AI
voice acting recently, so I have to have a human
do dubbing, which is great. Also, guys, I thought that
the reviewal of that clip was going to be they
might have been doing the deed in the studio. That's
what I thought.
Speaker 4 (47:06):
It's Oh, that's what Oh stop, yeah, exactly. Maybe that's
what's happening. Maybe the fault is not in our programming,
but in ourselves. To paraphrase Shakespeare. We responded to Unique
and we set Unique. We responded to you and we said,
(47:28):
there are two potential paths. There's definitely AI commentary. One
path is an audience player announcer backlash. Right public outcry
cuts this kind of program short because companies, unlike governments,
they will tend to back off from anything that poses
too much of a financial threat. Right, you vote with
(47:48):
the dollar, you vote with the income. The second path
is that a lack of outcry creates a window of
time for the AI announcement process to improve, to get
better at those idioms, those cadences, those intonations, and we
have to remember that a significant amount of viewers may
not realize AI is in play, especially if they are
(48:09):
hearing announcements in a language that they don't speak. I mean,
this is this is exciting, terrifying stuff. As you put it,
meet the Greek. It is nonsense, It is hilarious, and
you are scared. That's the way the letter ends. Before
we get to the final line, wrap up our listener
(48:30):
mail program. Guys, where do you think AI commentary is
going in the future? What do you think about those
two paths I pitched? Will there be outcry?
Speaker 5 (48:38):
Or yes?
Speaker 3 (48:39):
I think there will be, as there should be. You know,
this also reminds me of is like really hilarious subtitle
mistakes during exporting events, because I guess back in the
day I pictured, you know, human beings furiously typing those
out and making very human mistakes, whereas now the nature
of those mistakes is going to be patently less human, right.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
Like an American football version back in the eighties or
nineties with nineteen eighties or nineteen nineties would be something
like and he's all over them, but he can't get
a hold of his balls. You know, yeah, they be
you know, ball singular. But I think that's a great point,
(49:21):
and nol we also, I don't know. It seems it
seems inevitable because it returns to us under the sheep's
wool of better communication. Right, we're all watching, you know,
a sumo wrestling match. Usually there would be someone translating
that into Spanish or English or Chinese or what have you.
(49:43):
But if they try an ai translation, as we can
tell you from limited personal experience, it typically misses a
lot of the soul of what the human speakers are
attempting to convey. You know, we've had to listen to
submitterations of that.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
Turns out human beings are the soul of wit.
Speaker 4 (50:03):
There it is, there it is. We're gonna keep this
last part of our segment brief. I'd like to, if
it's okay with everybody, share one of my favorite quotes
that Niek the Greek brought to us. Are you ready, Wow,
tough crowd, Here it goes. I'm gonna do it in
(50:27):
the most neutral voice possible. Furthermore, I was telling you
about the good football they have always played. They have
always played, they have always been a very charismatic team,
and today they are very and today they are very
You know, so do and so do. Shout out to
(50:48):
always Study in Philadelphia, Shout out to Eat Conspicuous, Shout
out to James, Shout out to Niek the Greek, and
shout out to everybody who's going to chime in with
their own experiences regarding corporate governance, regarding the ins and
outs of hiring spoopy doop people, and who gets at
(51:10):
the top of the list. And please, please please tell
us your favorite examples of AI commentary. We can't wait
to hear from you. You can always find us on
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Give yourself a cool nickname and let us know if
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Speaker 3 (51:51):
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Speaker 1 (51:51):
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(52:16):
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