April 30, 2026 • 55 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
iHeartRadio, Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is
man Mine.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Stop this, you can't say it like that. Shake it okay, okay,
my name is Nol. We got some big LM energy today.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
They called me Ben.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
Were joined as always with our super producer Dylan the
Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.
That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.
If you are tuning in to listener Mail the evening,
it publishes welcome to the very end of April. It's April.
We are recorded on April twenty second. But the energy
(01:04):
is clear and apparent and dare I say tangible in
the air, as our good pal Justin was wont to
remark once upon a time, guys, it's gonna be May.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Oh yeah. And also our good pal Phil talking about
he could feel it coming in the air tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh lord, oh, it's gonna be a May. And we're
all preparing for the pall andeer future and we're so
excited for it.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Oh and real quick, because we're talking about our buddy JT.
Did you see the footage was released of his DUI arrest.
I did. It's a good time. It's a good hangk.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I think he's being he's not alive. Given the circumcis's
not awful.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
He doesn't immediately go do you know who I am?
But then a friend of his, who was apparently following
behind him, intervenes on his behalf and pulls that do
you know who he is? On his behalf? And it's
not a good look, and h it you know, goes
from there. But it is one of those things y'all
don't care who you are, especially if you're someone of
means like justin Timberlake.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Just take an uber, yeah, especially and you know, if
you have an entourage, if you have someone to both
doging you, why don't you have them drive.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Partihow right, why you pay security and.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
You are driving us folks. In tonight's listener mail, we
have so much stuff to get to. First off, we
want to thank everybody who responded. We were astounded by
the responses to our trucking is in trouble episode. So
we're going to kind of booken that in today's listener
mail program.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Before we do any of that.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Now we know that we have a famous musician in
the crowd. We have the privilege of hanging out with
not only our favorite longtime, long suffering super producer Dylan
to Tennessee pal fakean.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The rude Bega Dodebega himself.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
They also have the privilege of hearing fresh baked ruda vegas.
What do we got, Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh, we can't wait.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Garson Grinston Junior says he knows all about rudabgas.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
As everyone knows. Before he got into the car business.
My dad was just a humble rutebega farmer.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But when it comes to eating one, it's like he's
never seen them before.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Now, are you supposed to peel the skin off of
face as your campaign manager advice?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You don't have to say that.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And that's math just doesn't add up.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
I know you're feeling the pain at the supermarket right now,
But Rudebega prices just are what they are. Is this
a man we can really trust to be our Rudebega comptroller?
I mean, Rudebega's are just okay if you ask me,
I don't really see what the big deal is.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Carson Granston Jr.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Bad for you, bad for Ruda Vegas. I'm Greenblay Wilson
and I approve this message.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Love it another boom Oh Tennessee, you've outdone yourself with that.
Very valuable, I think, impactful hit piece ad. Also the
sound design on that one.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Guys, the swipes, the swashes also love those trustworthy or
just like they're clearly the copy pasta. Now what's the
word frankin biting?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Is the US as we're getting into a campaign season
that we know is going to be quite heated. Uh,
I've been watching a little bit of YouTube and almost
every ad Dylan is that. I literally just saw one.
It was a guy. I don't know what the the
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I don't know who the person is, what they're running for.
I just know they had a bunch of pictures of
this guy on top of uh, you know the vapes
that you might see in a grocery store that have
the huge battery attached to them. Almost, yes, they're all
one thing.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
The one you thought you thought that gardener guy at
the resort had one, but it was actually a huge driver.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Sorry, well no, I thought that was like one of
those custom vapes you can get at the super secret
vape store. This guy, Okay, you put your battery and
then you modge, you mod it with this other thing
that has a giant vat of vape juice. I don't know,
but it's this guy on top of a bunch of
these vapes. And it's like this guy's family sells illegal
vapes from China. Do you really think you can trust
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him with your low level position whatever he was running for,
and now.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Really think you can trust him with amazing and.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Dylan, I gotta say thank you man for digging deep
into the inside jokes on that comptroller you just made
the night.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's an important position. I just want to get the
word out for the people.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yes, I'm just glad that you educated us as to
the rudabeg of it all. That's the most important, right. Also,
we still don't know how to eat one or what
it tastes like.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
We're gonna learn together.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Just to be clear, That is ten ten perfect analogy
for what's going on with oil prices and insert so
many other things here. We're gonna pause for a word
from our sponsors, and then you know, convoy time.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
And We're back with today's first piece of listener mail,
a correspondence or a pair of them actually from a
couple of conspiracy realists out there in podcast land. This
first one comes to us from Jay because he didn't
really give us a permission to use the full Nan,
so I'm it's going to give him a very low
creativity nickname myself. So thanks Jay. Here it goes. Hello All,
(06:38):
hope you guys are doing well. I just listened to
the episode y'all did on Truck Drivers Spend. To your point,
we got a ton of great emails from folks on
the road giving us the inside scoop into the world
of trucking and some of its pitfalls that we discussed
on the episode. It caught my interests. I've been driving
trucks myself for going on almost nine years now. I
became an owner operator leased on to an carrier about
(07:00):
a year ago. As a driver, I have lots of
time to listen to podcasts over the road, lol, And
we appreciate you hanging out with us. Jay. Well, it
is true what you guys said about there being a
bunch more smaller companies. The industry is still dominated by
the whales hard h on that one the whales. The
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large trucking companies still hold the most power by sheer
volume of resources. They are able to bleed more in
hard times when the money isn't flowing, whereas the mom
and pop companies that are barely staying afloat will have
to tap out much sooner. As with most other industries,
there's also the problem of the large companies buying up
(07:41):
smaller companies. We did talk a bit about that on
the episode. With favorable contracts, you can't beat them, just
buy them out. I guess the industry as a whole
can be very volatile. I believe there is still money
to be made, but you have to find your niche.
There are also plenty of companies megas is what we
call them in the industry that prey on people who
(08:03):
don't know better or are barely starting out in the
industry and offer truly terrible wages for the work performed.
Companies like Swift, Werner, Schneider and other vaguely German sounding names.
That's me, by the way, Swift is a company. I
used to have a friend. This is me Noel talking
growing up. He was actually the husband of one of
(08:24):
my school teachers. We became friends weirdly, and he drove
a truck, and he always made the joke that swift
stands for sure, wish I had a fast truck because
of the thing that we mentioned on the episode. A
lot of these companies put what are the governors on
their vehicles, which, to Matt's point off Mike, seems like
a fine thing in terms of road safety, but to
(08:47):
Ben's point in the episode, certainly doesn't allow for more,
you know, for faster travel times. You're kind of locked
in to, you know, the lay of the land, the
lay of the routes, and the maximum speed that your
swift truck will allow you to reach. Usually, these are
not good places to stay long term, unless you find
(09:08):
yourself on one of their better dedicated accounts that works
for you in the area you live. Otherwise, working for
these companies is usually not worth it. OTR is the
term you use, and I had to do a double
take and couldn't think of what that meant right off
the rip, so I left it out. But I think
it means on the road, working on the road OTR
for these companies, And we love industry jargon, Jay, so
(09:29):
thanks for that there's also some shady companies that hire
people on as ten ninety nine contractors. We've been there, guys.
Talk about that in a second. Despite the individual not
actually owning the truck, they pass on a lot of
the costs and taxes to individuals who don't know that
there are better, more promising, and higher paying jobs. There's
(09:51):
a lot of other nuanced stuff to the industry, and
I'd love to answer any questions you guys may have,
so I don't just bombarge all with a book length
email along Now this is the sweet spot of an
e email, Jay, and we appreciate all the good information here,
otherwise I have nothing else to add at the moment.
Keep up the show, guys. I found you vs stuff
you should know back in like twenty nineteen. Man, So
we got a no G conspiracy realist here, So thank
(10:12):
you so much Jay for that information. The ten ninety
nine of it all is fascinating because guys, you know,
we've been through various acquisitions in our careers, and I
certainly remember a time early on when I was getting
my start working for this company or what this company
you know started out as where this big corporation who
shall not be named was doing a lot of real
(10:34):
tricksy stuff like that where they were ten ninety ninety
people or having people listed is what's called contingent workers
with all these caveats that kept them from having to
pay you know, healthcare costs and do you know PTO
and all of that kind of stuff. And it was
so in the best interest of the company and in
the worst interest of us as individual workers. Because there
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is even like a thing where you could only work
for X number of months and then you'd get temporarily
laid off so that the period would reset. Seems like
it should be absolutely illegal, as does this ten ninety
nine ing of folks who don't own the truck and
are causing I guess it's causing them to actually cover
some of the overhead and you know, pull that burden
(11:18):
off of the company itself. So I'd love to start there. Yeah,
I think that's an interesting point. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Ten ninety nine is a strange thing that unfortunately a
lot of us in the crowd tonight have experienced directly.
It's the idea, let's work in reversal. So, first off,
thank you Jay. One of the weirdest comparisons to that
leave and come back. Thing with ten ninety nine or
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contingency working is that it's a lot like living long
term in a foreign country at not being a citizen.
So you can stay for the amount of your visa
and then you have to leave the country for a second,
get a different stamp in you know, an adjacent country,
and then come back in your clock resets. And as
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we mentioned on trucking is in trouble, the entirety of
the ten ninety nine or contingency grift, which it is,
is to put the onus of operating expenses further on
the person actually driving the truck. This happens a lot
in FedEx too, I would point out Jay, like a
lot of the FedEx trucks you see are contracted out.
(12:27):
They're like a third party thing, so that FedEx proper
can avoid some of the regulations or some of the
things you are legally required to give to a full
time employee.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Absolutely. Yeah, it never really occurred to me that this
kind of tricksy bookkeeping would play into the world of
truck driving as well. But of course it does. Anything
that you know saves the company is a buck Matt. Yeah.
Any thoughts on Jay's email before I bump to another one.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, I think often there's maybe a little too side baseball.
But at the risk of that the company where we work,
it is required that someone is some form of like
verified full employee before we can pull in contract work.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well, and that's been that's evolved as well, yes, right like,
And it's sort of one of those gray areas where
it tends to be up to the individual companies as
to how much they want to skirt some of these
federal regulations. And then it's all about exposure, right like.
It's like, how how tricksy do we want to be
lest we incur the wrath of the regulators.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, yes, and I'm just putting this out here. I
guess it's an experience in the executive producer role because
often when you're working on a project and you need
some specific work to be done, and you don't have
the personnel to do that specific work because everybody's busy
doing other things. It's really nice to have a contractor
(13:57):
come through that's just a third party person who's not
a part of the company, not a part of the
work you're doing right there, to get that work done.
And that's the entirety of the job you need from them, right.
It's kind of like the gig worker economy thing. It's
not great for the person who's going to do that
work because they're just coming in getting a paycheck for
a specific amount of time and a specific amount of work.
(14:18):
But it is work.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I guess not to mention that we know from experience
over the years that those workers are also it's not
quite as high priority to get them paid in a
timely manner, and I'm sorry that that goes into some
of these calculations as well.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's a whole other thing whether or not the large entity,
if there is a large entity at play, is willing
to and ready to make those smaller payments and all
that stuff. It's easier to pay them if they're officially
on the payroll somewhere, right, But that's not taking into
account the whole healthcare of it all and the other
benefits that you would get from being a full time employee.
(14:57):
It just gets, it gets, it gets convoluted when you
get into the comptrollerness of it all was.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
A rude beg and you really dig into the rude
beca of it all too as well.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, like the overhead accounting, like when you get into
the forty thousand foot accounting of it all, and then
you're looking down at all these different expenses, different human beings,
how you're paying them in all of the west Bucket right,
it's nuts. And I would say, I guess it's necessary
because of the systems in place, but it feels unnecessary
(15:27):
in the moment.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, agreed, And it feels unnecessarily convoluted, and again not
in the best interest of the individual employee. So I'm
gonna move on real quick. Just to a fun thank
you again, Jay for that info. This is a fun
one regarding our discussion of the Appalachian Trail and the
way sounds can bounce around and do real weird stuff
(15:51):
and play some pretty interesting tricks on your ears and
sort of act as like their own sort of syop team.
That's nice where we are a team. I currently this
comes to us by the way from Rock. I currently
reside in downtown Tulsa, Oklahoma. Through private donations are beloved.
Route sixty six is considered when east meets West. We
(16:12):
are on the Google Maps for that. As well as
having giant statues huntering Rosy the Riveter and Buck Adams,
we have also added the world's second musical bridge. Okay,
this is neat. With use of a line of bumps
and road signs, this land is Our Land is played.
That actually is kind of neat how it works. Unfortunately,
(16:35):
I live with an eyesight of the bridge, and my
bedroom window lines up precisely with a straight line facing
the bridge, with some sort of magic sound effect that
reverberates off my bedroom window, causing a low noise that
is audible when things are particularly quiet. While this is
very neat, it also drives me absolutely insane because now
I have this earworm that I can't shake. Guys, I
(16:57):
would love your feedback. I've not reached out to any
new or other information sources. Please see attached maps and
YouTube links. You can use my name as Rock. I
gotta look this up singing bridge, This land is cool.
Here comes right on up. City installs Oklahoma's first musical
(17:19):
road on Route sixty six, featuring Woody Guthries this land
is our land or your land rather, in further celebration
this is a relatively fresh story. Just as of March
of twenty twenty six, in preparation for the Route sixty
six centennial, the City of Tulsa has installed the first
musical road in the state of Oklahoma on the southwest
Bulevard Bridge, which runs parallel to the Cyrus Ivory Memorial Bridge,
(17:43):
an important landmark in Tulsa's history as the capital of
Route sixty six. Now in drivers head east towards downtown
at thirty five miles an hour. The song this Land
is Your Land by Oklahoma native Woody Guthrie plays, I
want to know how it works, though, Let's see, is
it literally triggering a playback of the speed of the bumps.
(18:05):
It's the bumps, so it's like the times or the
little bumps in a music box.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, that's why I have to be that exact MP.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That exact speed, sort of like beats per minute again
on a music box where you're rotating a drum that
has little ticks on it, and the times of the
you know, musical note producing thing that are literally just
like metal times. They're tuned to different pitches as they
click over the bumps, which you could think of as
(18:33):
musical notes, or if you're a computer music person, think
of it as like a MIDI layout, you know, or
you're clicking thing and that's what's making the notes it
is going to play the song. That is pretty cool,
but also sorry about the hum and the thrum of it.
All rock. That's got to be a little bit irritating,
but pretty.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Cool, Isn't it interesting? Because the design of that is
for individuals inside a vehicle that are traveling at that
speed going down that road, right, that's an experience you're
giving them.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
But if you're static, you're just gonna hear the one
part or the one note repeated over and over. Bro,
I didn't even think about that at all. You're only
getting the full picture as you progress, and you're going
so fast that that's not going to be the same
experience for anybody with a bird's eye view of the
of the spot or a bird's ear view as rock
seems to have. That's a really good point, Matt.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's the difference between holding a music box and playing
it right and then getting to stop when you know
when it stops, or somebody that or I don't know,
I don't what is the analogy here, somebody just holding
music boxes running past you all day long? Yeah, playing well,
think of.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It as like if you're riding your bike down a
walking trail, the way you just hear a snippet of
a conversation or a word if you're moving fast enough.
But the reverse of that.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
You know what I mean, that's awful. Yeah, at least
it's a good song. That's a fun song.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
It's a fun song. What do you gout? Thrie is
a neat figure. I highly recommend how Ashby film. I'm
not a big fan of biopics in general, especially if
it's a figure that I'm you know, super familiar with,
and music ones in general just kind of turned me off.
But I really really enjoyed this film by how Ashby,
who did Harold and Maud if you're familiar with that movie,
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and like a handful of other really classic kind of
seventies pieces of important cinema. It tells the story of
Woody Guthrie, who is played by I believe it's Keith Carradine,
not David Krodine, and he does a fabulous job. And
it kind of has the vibe of There Will be
Blood just in its epicness and period accuracy and specificity.
(20:39):
But it's it's a story of like rising up and
about labor, you know, disputes, and about how Woody Guthrie
kind of didn't sell out. It's nice to, you know,
see a famous person who kind of sticks to their guns.
So yeah, definitely check that out if you're looking for
a cool biopic. And I'm so sorry, I'm just gonna
correct this. Don't want to have to make Dylan do
an edit. The film is actually called Bound for Glory,
(21:00):
not This Land Is Your Land, and it is David
Carradine of Kung Fu fame before that became a thing
playing what he got through as he comes up in
the dust bowl in Texas and you know, becomes sort
of a cult folk hero. And you'll also probably know
what he got through. Was famous for having a guitar
that said this machine kills fascists, which is kind of badass.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Isn't Carodine Bill?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
He's Bill and kill Bill?
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
That is that is correct. He is Kane from Kung
Fu who walks to Earth. He's also the titular Bill
in Kill Bill.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
He's also in Lone Wolf McQuaid I've ever heard of
but it's got Chuck Norris.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Is that a movie or is that a TV sp.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It looks to be an action western that is an
hour and forty seven minutes that came out in nineteen
eighty three, the year of You.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Have to check it out. Lone Wolf McQuaid. Do check
that one out too, if you're looking for those genre
touch points that Matt just mentioned. So huge thanks to
Jay and Rock, which sounds like a really cool hip
hop group. We're gonna take a quick break here where
from our sponsor, and then we'll be back with some
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Speaker 2 (22:14):
And we've returned. Guess where we're going, guys.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
The moon.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
It's where you don't need roads and the voicemails. We're
gonna hear a quick one that is applicable to YouTube gents,
because you're gonna be able to give some information that
will that will be very important for me to hear.
(22:40):
I kind of got to eat this one, guys. It's
from Brocknest Monster and let's just let's just see what
he has to say.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Hey, this is a message for Matt Frederick. Matt, this
is the Brocknest Monster, and I'm putting you on notice.
I know you think your big stuff with your two scoops,
all the raising brand, but I'm here to tell you man,
it's an inferior cereal. That's right, I said, it. Raisin
nut brin is far better in terms of taste texture. Also,
(23:09):
it doesn't make you fart as much. Raisin brand very farty.
If you're wanting to argue at that point, I am
just going to direct you to the Ridiculous History podcast
episode about the h I don't know what it was called.
It may have been called the Fartist, but there was
some guy in France and the late eighteen hundred. Apparently
they just live in farting various compositions, classical pieces, popular songs,
(23:36):
national anthems. And he did that by eating lots of brand,
lots of There's two scoops that you're scooping in your face,
raisin brand. It's not good for you, man, it's bad
for your your friends because toot's pollute, right, I said it.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm out, Okay, Matt, I gotta be right up front.
And the two Scoops does not refer to the brand
rock Nest. The two Scoops refers to the raisin content
of the of the cereal. And I think I've come
down my position on this made it clear over the years.
I am anti raisin in most any form, so I
actually refuse myself from this from this debate.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well, I got bad news for me and everybody else.
Raisins also make you a little tooty, or at least
they can, just like brand.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Is that the same thing? I guess being regular means
pooping a lot or pooping, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Just getting You're getting a lot of fiber in your
diet when you're eating that stuff, apparently. And I was
looking on a lot of websites like Everyday Health, very well, Health,
all the things, and then you put health at the
end and this r L they all say, yeah, brand
can can make irritable boll syndrome worse. It is a
good source of fiber, but oh but it could be
(24:51):
bad for all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
But you remember the SNL sketch sketch colon blow. Yeah, yeah,
that was sort of parodying. Yes, that was parodying these
types of cereals precisely, thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
And they replace your toilet with a tiny little joke holes.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
It's just enough for farts. I just watched that the
other day.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, well, I want to know more about this episode
of ridiculous history. Guys, what can you tell me about it?
How do I find it? Do we remember what it
was called?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (25:25):
It's called Roland the Farder and also Brocknests always great
to hear from you. Thank you, Brocknest. Behind the Curtain,
you send us some amazing emails. You will just drop
a lead to us that opens an entire subterranean rabbit hole.
The thing that we're talking about here specifically is our
(25:45):
August thirtieth, twenty eighteen episode Roland the Farther and the
Weird World of Professional Flatulence. That's where you learn more
about the petalmol, and that's where you'll learn more about
you know, what I would say was a very brave
form of groundbreaking, wind breaking theater.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, I mean it's certainly a form of performance art,
though I don't know that that's what it was viewed
at as at the time. It was just I guess
he was sort of a novelty act. But didn't he
like perform for like royalty and stuff. I mean, like,
I feel like he was very sought after or far after.
M I like that, Yeah he was, you're doing a
(26:29):
great job and he was. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Performing to sold out theaters, the kind of places that
would have the celebrity musicians of the day, right, that
would have the justin Timberlakes, for instance. They would say, like,
this guy's played you know, here's the guy you expect
to play this, you know, Friday night, but stay in
the neighborhood for Saturday because Le Petalmont is going to
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teach you the right way to us seeing the player.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Now, you know, you want to say, La petal Man
was a different guy, and Roland was was an older
two different guys, that's right. So Roland le patois or
Roland the Farder. He's referred to as a medieval You
look at this on paper and you read floutest, but
it's not. It's flatialist court jester kind of. He's a
corn jester kind of dude. And he was so beloved
(27:18):
by King Henry the Second and and some subsequent rulers
that he was like given like a plot of land
and a manner.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And suffolk. If only you could smell it.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Joseph all the way.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Actually, Joseph is the later petal that's the guy's selling out.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
The beautiful Well guys, thank you, my my bowels, thank you, procnesse,
my family. I'm assuming, thanks you. I'm going to move
away from my beloved two scoops and I'll find something different.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
A third scoop man double double what you know.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to Brognas.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Between all the reasons and all the hot sauces, your
poops must.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Be fascinating, very spicy. Okay, guys. A little while back,
we received a call from Anonymous about the missing General
mccaslan and several other missing and murdered scientists. There were
some connections made there.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Did you see that they were asked about that, or
that Carolyn Lenatt was asked about that openly by the
press and said we're going to look right into that
for you.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's very Yeah, it's a very strange situation where there
is now acknowledgment at the upper echelons that this is occurring,
and it is strange that there there are these connections,
but the full connections aren't really being made even on
Newsweek and other publications that are doing a great job
keeping up with, you know, information as it comes out
(28:57):
that the full true connections aren't they But Anonymous is
kind of making some of these connections. And we have
to say at this point before even playing the message,
we can't verify these connections. We said this before. We
cannot verify the connections that you're gonna hear, but they
are curious and pretty intense if some of this stuff
(29:20):
is true. In that original voicemail, we couldn't understand one
thing regarding Ravens. Do you guys remember this? He said
something about Raven. We just couldn't understand the audio. And
it wasn't an anonymous fault, it was just a phone system. Well, guys,
he is called back and he's gonna give us some
Raven clarification, and he is he is adding a slew
(29:45):
of new threads for us to investigate. So if you
don't mind, if you're listening to this and it is
possible physically for you to take notes while you're listening,
please do so. Let's play a little game. Let's see
how many notes we can take. We're looking for proper nouns, dates, times,
We're looking for all this stuff because these are threads
that we can follow and hopefully come to some kind
(30:08):
of understanding about what's going on here. So here we go.
This is dense. That's a warning here comes.
Speaker 9 (30:18):
Yeah, Hey, guys, this is anonymous again. I just listened
to your most recent episode. Regarding the castline of data
and have some great information you put out there. Thank you,
and I apologize for the quality of met audio. Apparently
I was pretty hard to hear. So let me start
again clearing up the raven eye. That's raven The bird
eye is an eyeball, and this is Riverside project. It's
(30:41):
an agenic AI that's tied with the CIA, and if
you take a look at that, you'll get into it.
But let's talk about this real quick, because it was
on March fourth, just five days after the Caslin witnessing
at Riverside research with public with their new agenic AI
framework called raven I. They call it an Intelligent Cycle Accelerator,
but it's really an automated brain of the Star a
satellite network, which we're gonna talk about in a second.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Here.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
Another thing to look at is look into the AeroVironment
av acquisition.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Of Blue Halo.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
There was a time during the contract pause time in
March that allowed them to make transfers without any oversight.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
Pretty important to look at.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
And it wasn't a delay, it was a blackout window
and allowed them to move special nuclear materials from Kirkland
to a non government site. Triunity site, take a look
at that one McDonald house, and then again look into
the SMB spaceships, which I think he mostly did.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
And the claims about what happened with Rossi's.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
Are not playing ball when they wanted to move nuclear
materials at that time.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
So maybe mccassle and even.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
Was a way to prevent something from happening to him
going tomcastline. He didn't just wander off on twenty seven.
That was a hard deadline. He was the final snator
needed to move a legacy assets into private sector vacuum
before the new overnight rules kicked in a new legacy program.
Look at the acquisition, like I said of aerovironments, check
the coordinates of the Trinity site and look for civilian
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registered transport trucks and unmarked planings landing at White Sands.
This is all Coco now contract owned, contractor operated. Ask
your listeners who had the General's biometric keys three hours
after he vanished because someone used his ADMIN logging to
pain the Badger facility in Albert Purkey that afternoon. As
far as I know, most people lose, not lose their
(32:23):
security clearances, but have it placed on hold when they
go missing. If you have a high enough clearance. If
you look at the lance at nine thermal image data
for the Trinity site on March fourth, you'll see the
McDonald ranch house was glowing while the desert.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Was near freezing.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
That's pretty suspicious. Let's look at some of the Caaslein's connections.
So Applied Technology Associated, he was a president. They eventually
became Blue Halo, where he became a board advisor on
their Board of Technology. He sits at a board of
trustee with the Riverside Research. He sits with the new
Mexico Space Authority on the board of Directors. He served
on other numerous committees regarding the National Security, Space Defense
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and Protection. He's a DOOD advisor where he frequently consults
for the Space Rapid Capabilities Office sp GOVER. So if
you look at this, truslinn is kind of a commander
in this. He held the Adam keys. He's the only
one who would authorize raven and I at Pocket Space
Force satellite ground stations. Lurero, the MIT plasma expert, killed
in December. Raven I needs high density power and he
(33:20):
was the only one who could really audit the nuclear
energy source. The CS would be the gatekeeper. She managed
the nuclear inventory at Los Alamos before it was Priority
Alpha transferred to the Trinity site. The technical pillars would
be res of the builder missing since June. She built
the propulsion tech at the raven E. Leaked sensors would
have required here's a new name for you, Frank my
(33:42):
wallt m aiw Ald. He would have been the calms
guy NASA JLP expert on deep space sensors. He built
the eyes that fed the AI data. Carl Gruelmeyer, the tracker,
the Caltech astrophysicist killed in February. He was a manual
backup for tracking deep space objects the human finance link
with Jason Thomas that he was found dead in March.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
He was bridging the.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
Gap between human cognitive signals and the AI. Very egenic
AI at Riverside just announced ROSSI with the money, and
he was tracking the five hundred and eighty million oil
features that funded this entire move. So again, look into
the Riverside Research Network Modernization paper for March sixteen, and
that's why I'm missing in general, cited at the current
(34:22):
asset for a roadmap relief after he vanished too. Look
for the ghost being at the Blue Hellow Badger's facility
and Abuquerque somebody used the castle's biometric heat three hours
after he disappeared. And again, if you look at the
landsat nine thermal data, you'll see something very weird going on.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
In March fourth.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
I hope this helps guys stay safe, and I'll update
you if I get any more information.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Huh, Dance is right?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Okay, So I tried to take notes. I got about
a page I think on the notes app here. Holy lord,
it's really interesting to hear someone listed off the folks
that are listed in Newsweek and other publications as the
folks who are connected to this group of missing and
(35:09):
murdered scientists, and then connect them in a way to
some project that we kind of don't really we can't
verify that this ravenie thing that an honest is talking
about is the thing, the project, whatever it is that
all of these folks are directly connected to. But it's
really interesting to think about them as all connected to
(35:30):
one thing, right, and that one thing is the reason
they're all disappearing or being killed.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Or dying.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Rather, let's say, but it's kind of mind blowing, to
be honest.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
What kind of response are you expecting, Matt, like I
joked around maybe about like, we'll get right on that.
That's literally more or less what Caroline Levitt said when
faced with a question about this, And she wasn't flippant
about it. She wasn't, you know, conspiratorial or fake news
about it. She said, we'll get back to you on that.
D you see it just withering and never being addressed.
(36:08):
I just was kind of taken aback by how straightforwardly
she responded to that.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well, I hasn't it been addressed by potus? I think
the president has made some kind of statement about it, at.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Least that update. I'd love to hear about it.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
He's acknowledged that it's happening. At least.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yeah, we talked about it in a previous Strange News program,
I think just last week as some of the oh
yeah news was coming out that Noel mentioned Levitt there
anonymous and first off, I want to thank you so
much for this excellent research and taking the time to
call us back recontact us. Second, yes, I can confirm
(36:47):
that point, maybe, Matt. Yeah, we did previously talk about it.
The President of the United States, perhaps the cynical would
say that he desperately was looking for it on Epstein
news bite to get out there the airwaves. But he
definitely said we are going to look into it. And
I think the joke Dylan and I had was it
(37:10):
reminds us very much of that line from don't tell
Mom the Babysitters Dead. I'll get right on that rose
because there was no promise of a timeline.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, I was outsick that day I missed it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, same.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
That.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I'm really yeah. I'm glad you guys talked about it, though,
because it's important that it's at least being acknowledged as
a thing that is happening. The problem is, can you
trust what the FBI, the DOJ whoever, even if you
know who is going to investigate that that we can
actually trust is going to get the job done. And
(37:46):
if they find something untoward, like let's say, hmm, I
don't know some of these massive multinational Yeah, one of
these giant multinational weapons manufacturers and dealers is behind something
like this. You know, perhaps it's some kind of outside
(38:07):
country that is manipulating in some way, but to me
that doesn't seem as likely. It seems as though there's
a lot of stuff going on with these folks that's
directly tied to weapons manufacturers, private contractors. They have these
big contracts with government. We know it's a murky world,
and we know that there are billions of dollars at stake.
(38:27):
It's really weird.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
And anonymous fellow conspiracy realist, you gentlemen, I have to mention,
in full objectivity, there is one company that would be
amazing at tracing all these connections and proving or disproving things.
There is one company above all who would do a
(38:49):
great job figuring this out with us if they wanted to.
Can you guys guess the name of that company, Palenteer.
It is Palenteer. Noel, you are getting a toaster as
a prize too.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I was gonna say Riverside Research, which is one of
the names mentioned in the call here. But Palenteer is
a great book.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yes, it's a really good point because these the power,
the extreme power of a tool or a network of
tools like Palenteer. Think of the good it could do
if in the hands of you know, those that would
use it for good? Yeah, yeah, but what is good?
(39:27):
And I don't mean to be sarcastic. I was gonna
make a similar point It depends on what side of
you know, history you're on. But like, yeah, good lord,
I mean it's sort of like that thing in Batman
Begins or whichever one it was, where they have the
Palenteer esque thing that uses every cell phone and turns
it into a microphone Dark Knight. Yeah, you know what
I'm talking about. It was a movie. And the whole
(39:50):
point is we can only use this once to do
the good thing, save the world, and then it has
to be destroyed m And that's what something like Palenteer is.
Only no one's gonna destroy it and they're not going
to use it to save the world.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well here here is kind of the the dark truth
of all this stuff. Paleteer is the big player in
the game, you know, out there doing their thing, making
all those connections, getting embedded into the military and all
that stuff. Well they're not the only ones in the game.
Raven I, which Anonymous tried to point us to the
(40:25):
first time, and now we're finally on target here. Raveni
is something created by Riverside Research. You can find it
right now on riverside research dot org slash Raveni. That's
our a V E N e ye. You can learn
that they are trying to make their own agentic AI
(40:47):
framework that quote automates the end to end intelligence process,
delivering timely, mission aligned insights that help analysts and decision
makers anticipate threats, measure impact, and respond proactively in dynamic
operational environments. This is precisely the kind of thing that
we've talked about when we discuss modeling the Earth modeling,
(41:11):
you know, in wartime like everything from army intelligence to
OCENT to GEOINT to SIGAN, all of these things, all
the NS well, all of the different versions of intelligence,
styles of intelligence that are out there. It tries to
put them all together so that you, as the operator
(41:34):
or as the decision maker, you can decide what the
right move is. Do we put that blockade in now?
Is that the right time to put the blockade in?
What happens if we put the blockade in? How what's
the response from Iran? What happens if we take it
away for a little bit and then bring it back.
What's the response. It's that kind of thing, and it
(41:57):
uses all kinds of different data that it's collecting. It
quote detects sentient shifts, protest planning, foreign influence in emerging threats.
Do you hear what I'm saying, guys? It it can
(42:17):
indicate things that are going to happen, such as protest
planning and foreign influence and sentiment shifts in a country
or a region like this is the kind of thing
that we're talking about. The modeling that is pallinteer like.
If we're going back to Lord of the Rings and.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Then kind it almost becomes predictive, like pre crime type stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
If you're not convinced by their website, you can head
over to YouTube find Riverside Research on there. They have
ninety eight subscribers as of today Wednesday, April twenty second.
Nobody's paying attention, nobody's watching these videos. They have all
all kinds of demos and things, including a raven Ie
g Oint twenty twenty five demo that was posted eleven
(43:08):
months ago May sixteenth, twenty twenty five. You can see
the demos of their their tech there. It's you know who.
Nobody on this show is saying that raven I has
anything to do with these missing and murdered scientists. We
are saying, we got a caller who is connecting that
thing to those things. We are very interested in this
(43:30):
because that was a compelling call, guys. With so much information,
there is lots to learn in other things, not just
raven I, also Aero Environment and Blue Halo. You can
go to a lot of places online and learn about
that little transaction that occurred. There is some PR available
(43:50):
a press release from May first, twenty twenty five. Aero
Vironment that's a E R O v I R O
N M E n T and Blue Halo b l
U e HLO complete transaction creating a global defense technology,
a giant global defense technology. It's a leader built for
(44:14):
strategic advantage in modern warfare. That's what says in the
PR here. It's really interesting it did. They did finalize
that purchase, that transaction right around the time mccaslan went missing.
Leading up to it. At least check out the Trinity
site that's mentioned in here, that's in the White Sands
Missile range. You can watch that movie Oppenheimer if you
(44:37):
want to learn more about that place. And there is
a house on there called the George McDonald ranch House
that is mentioned. You can look that up pretty easily
and find information on that. And lastly, we'll put you
onto a piece by Joe Edwards in Newsweek put out
on April twentieth, twenty twenty six. Wave of missing dead
scientists could be foreign operation colon Congressman. It has a
(45:02):
full list of all the people that are missing and
what's going on there. If you want to just continue
tracking this on your own. For now, we've put out
all this information, Anonymous. We appreciate it. Thank you for
just sending it our way. So many rabbit holes to
go down, guys, I think it's a full episode.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
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Speaker 4 (45:22):
We'll be right back, and we have returned.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
Side note, Anonymous, you might want to look into some
of our previous episodes where we discussed some work from
our grad school days that were exactly what is happening
now presaged it. So look into Georgia Tech Mit, look
into DARPA. Our next messages are going to come from
some emails. We've got an overdue one that we're just
(45:53):
gonna read quickly because I'm not gonna say this is
all of me thing, but I think we all as
a crew and hopefully you as our audience, concerned with
the ongoing silent crisis of environmental disasters and cover ups,
and this is where we hear from Jill. So, Jill,
(46:16):
you say, hi, guys, I recently listened to your episode
on Coldwater Creek and really appreciated the way you covered
the issue.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
Thank you, Jill.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
I live in the suburbs, says Jill of Saint Louis,
so while I'm close enough to be familiar with the situation,
I'm not close enough to be directly impacted. Hopefully that's true, Jil.
Your discussion, you say, prompted me to share some related
local contexts that may be of interest. Around twenty eighteen,
a documentary called Atomic home Front highlighted another legacy uranium
(46:49):
processing issue in the Saint Louis areas. Guys, there's another
one at play. In nineteen seventy three, approximately forty seven
thousand tons of the same radio active waste associated with
Coldwater Creek were moved from Latty Avenue and illegally dumped
in a neighborhood landfill known as the Westlake Landfill. That
(47:10):
landfill became an EPA Superfund site in nineteen ninety. Since
twenty ten, an uncontrolled subsurface fire in the adjacent Bridgeton
Landfill has been moving toward the area where the radioactive
waste is buried, and we checked into this jail.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
It looks like the fire has yet.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
To be contained.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
Honestly, A major concern within the community, you say, is
that if this fire reaches the radioactive material, contaminants could
become airborne and migrate off site, potentially affecting surrounding communities.
Current plans indicate that excavation of the radioactive waste is
expected to begin in twenty twenty seven. Hopefully the remediation
(47:54):
will progress quickly and be successful. Thanks again for shedding
light on these important environ mental and public health issues. Guys,
can you believe it? Coldwater Creek got even worse and
there may be a further disaster ahead. It's like that
Mouth of Hell thing, you know, like in Centralia. Pennsylvania
is another example where the fire just kept burning and
(48:16):
people can't stop it.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Oh yeah, I'm on the Atomic Homefront dot film website.
They've got a really great resource here for news. You know,
it's press coverage about Atomic home Front, the documentary, but
also a press coverage about everything going on there. It's
a cock gosh. It's just so many links here to stories.
(48:42):
Most of it's going back to like twenty nineteen though, yeah, see,
and oh they have a news archive though from nineteen
seventy six all the way to twenty seventeen, which is, oh,
this is great.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
Yeah, and twenty nine days ago, you go to the
Saint Louis Post disc at or Saint Louis if you prefer,
by Bryce Gray, you're going to see the report that
the EPA has said, we are definitely going to clean
up this radioactive material, so we can confirm what you're
saying there, j Ill. But I don't love how it
feels like a ticking clock, you know what I mean,
(49:19):
as a fire potentially reaches closer and closer to a
tipping point here, and it's crazy that this is not
being reported more widely as the crisis that it is.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
They've got there. I'm looking at a map here of
the Saint Louis North County site projected radioactivity distribution Laddie
Avenue area, and they actually went out there with Geiger
counters and tested the entire area, and it's just so
it's just showing, yeah, like exact spots there that we
talked about on the Coldwater Creek episode, and how much
(49:54):
radiation is in the soil versus background, and it's intense.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
Yeah, and the bes efficity of the sites is intense
as well, j Ill, this is probably an episode in
the future for us to investigate, because you are not
the only fellow conspiracy realist who has written in and
contacted us with these ongoing environmental and infrastructural If I'm
(50:20):
going to churchify a word, catastrophes just waiting to happen.
The world is swinging on a pendulum here the United
States in particular. And Nope, before we head out to
our next piece of listener mail, do you still have
a connect with people in the Georgia larger Southeast region
who monitor these kind of environmental cover ups?
Speaker 3 (50:43):
No, not so much. But I definitely spent some time
reporting on clean up efforts like Savannah Riverside, and it
was all mainly internal, and you know, there were some
organizations that were sort of watchdog groups that I would
call for comment occasionally and now completely spacing on who
some of those were, but like the Savannah River Keepers
(51:04):
for example, was a big one, but they were more
looking at water pollution and wildlife tracking. But some of
that did crossover because of the potential for irradiated, you know,
turtles and stuff like that. So but I'll get back
to you. I got to I gotta look back at
some of my old contacts and see if there's an
organization that was more precisely associated with overseeing all this
(51:28):
radiation cleanup.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
Awesome, and folks, keep the correspondencies coming on this because
it seems like, unfortunately, we are going to have a
series on looming environmental disasters, not just in the United States.
We'll take it global and we're going to move to
something a little bit different. We said we're going to
(51:52):
book d listener mail with trucking. At least two pieces
of trucking information we had. Here's one we've got coming
in Piping Hot from PCC thirty eight Lightning. We're going
to paraphrase a little bit of this for time, but
the story is fascinating, you guys, and it kind of
takes a too pronged approach. So PCC, if I could
(52:13):
be familiar with you, you say, I've been in the
transportation industry for forty years as a driver. I still
hold a Class ACDL tractor trailer license, that's commercial driver license.
I've been a transportation director and a logistics software consultant.
With this background, I wanted to say that you represented
the current issues fairly well for the broad audience. Thank
(52:36):
you so much, PCC, because as you know, we don't
have our CDLs currently, but we're intimately, as every American is,
we are intimately tied up with the fortune and the
dangers of the trucking industry. You continued, PCC, I was
especially glad to hear your take on the potential rise
of autonomous trucking. Companies are pouring billions of dollars into
(52:59):
making this a real thing, and you touched on some
of the key points on why that is happening. The
driver shortage. There's been a reported driver shortage since I
entered the industry. I'm not saying that there isn't one.
Now there are fewer and fewer people interested in OTR
or over the road rolls, the long haul freight stuff.
(53:20):
They're more of a biscuit crowd. And here, guys, PCC
sent us a laughy smile of Moji. So we're gonna
have to find out what the biscuit crowd is. Do
you guys have an idea?
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Is it lingo?
Speaker 3 (53:33):
No? Okay, the biscuit crowd. I don't know that one.
Is that like the people come in to.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
The biscuits. Is it a real biscuit or is it
like slang.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Let's see, a biscuit can refer to a pistol a firearm.
Speaker 5 (53:52):
Yeah, exactly, Folks, right into us conspiracy diheartradio dot com
and please help your hopefully favorite host figure out what
biscuit crowd.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Is PCC, right back to us.
Speaker 5 (54:03):
You continue, and there's a very interesting historical point that
PCC raises for US gents. You say, looking back to
the sixties and eighties, nineteen sixties, nineteen eighties, much of
the driving corps was coming from the military, and they
had an Uncle Sam provided skill set. So what better
place to process your post Vietnam PTSD than long hours
(54:27):
on a black ribbon of asphalt.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
That is a phenomenal writing there, PCC.
Speaker 5 (54:32):
You say the military was good training for being away
from home for long stretches of time and having that
lifestyle understood by the family back home. As time moved on,
normal folks have less incentive to go out on the
big road. I'm sure you guys are aware that many
kids no longer feel the urge to get a license
at sixteen, eighteen, orever. And let's pause there, because we've
(54:56):
had some of those conversations. I think we all know
some and comers who have, for one reason or another,
been hesitant to get a driver's license, or just said
they weren't really feeling it.
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
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We are recorded on April twenty second. But the energy
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the air, as our good pal Justin was wont to
remark once upon a time, guys, it's gonna be May.
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Oh yeah. And also our good pal Phil talking about
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Oh and real quick, because we're talking about our buddy JT.
Did you see the footage was released of his DUI arrest.
I did. It's a good time. It's a good hangk.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
I think he's being he's not alive. Given the circumcis's
not awful.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
He doesn't immediately go do you know who I am?
But then a friend of his, who was apparently following
behind him, intervenes on his behalf and pulls that do
you know who he is? On his behalf? And it's
not a good look, and h it you know, goes
from there. But it is one of those things y'all
don't care who you are, especially if you're someone of
means like justin Timberlake.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Just take an uber, yeah, especially and you know, if
you have an entourage, if you have someone to both
doging you, why don't you have them drive.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Partihow right, why you pay security and.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
You are driving us folks. In tonight's listener mail, we
have so much stuff to get to. First off, we
want to thank everybody who responded. We were astounded by
the responses to our trucking is in trouble episode. So
we're going to kind of booken that in today's listener
mail program.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Before we do any of that.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Now we know that we have a famous musician in
the crowd. We have the privilege of hanging out with
not only our favorite longtime, long suffering super producer Dylan
to Tennessee pal fakean.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The rude Bega Dodebega himself.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
They also have the privilege of hearing fresh baked ruda vegas.
What do we got, Tennessee?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Oh, we can't wait.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Garson Grinston Junior says he knows all about rudabgas.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
As everyone knows. Before he got into the car business.
My dad was just a humble rutebega farmer.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But when it comes to eating one, it's like he's
never seen them before.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Now, are you supposed to peel the skin off of
face as your campaign manager advice?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You don't have to say that.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And that's math just doesn't add up.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
I know you're feeling the pain at the supermarket right now,
But Rudebega prices just are what they are. Is this
a man we can really trust to be our Rudebega comptroller?
I mean, Rudebega's are just okay if you ask me,
I don't really see what the big deal is.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Carson Granston Jr.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Bad for you, bad for Ruda Vegas. I'm Greenblay Wilson
and I approve this message.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Love it another boom Oh Tennessee, you've outdone yourself with that.
Very valuable, I think, impactful hit piece ad. Also the
sound design on that one.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Guys, the swipes, the swashes also love those trustworthy or
just like they're clearly the copy pasta. Now what's the
word frankin biting?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Is the US as we're getting into a campaign season
that we know is going to be quite heated. Uh,
I've been watching a little bit of YouTube and almost
every ad Dylan is that. I literally just saw one.
It was a guy. I don't know what the the
(04:36):
I don't know who the person is, what they're running for.
I just know they had a bunch of pictures of
this guy on top of uh, you know the vapes
that you might see in a grocery store that have
the huge battery attached to them. Almost, yes, they're all
one thing.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
The one you thought you thought that gardener guy at
the resort had one, but it was actually a huge driver.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Sorry, well no, I thought that was like one of
those custom vapes you can get at the super secret
vape store. This guy, Okay, you put your battery and
then you modge, you mod it with this other thing
that has a giant vat of vape juice. I don't know,
but it's this guy on top of a bunch of
these vapes. And it's like this guy's family sells illegal
vapes from China. Do you really think you can trust
(05:22):
him with your low level position whatever he was running for,
and now.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Really think you can trust him with amazing and.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Dylan, I gotta say thank you man for digging deep
into the inside jokes on that comptroller you just made
the night.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
It's an important position. I just want to get the
word out for the people.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yes, I'm just glad that you educated us as to
the rudabeg of it all. That's the most important, right. Also,
we still don't know how to eat one or what
it tastes like.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
We're gonna learn together.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
Just to be clear, That is ten ten perfect analogy
for what's going on with oil prices and insert so
many other things here. We're gonna pause for a word
from our sponsors, and then you know, convoy time.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
And We're back with today's first piece of listener mail,
a correspondence or a pair of them actually from a
couple of conspiracy realists out there in podcast land. This
first one comes to us from Jay because he didn't
really give us a permission to use the full Nan,
so I'm it's going to give him a very low
creativity nickname myself. So thanks Jay. Here it goes. Hello All,
(06:38):
hope you guys are doing well. I just listened to
the episode y'all did on Truck Drivers Spend. To your point,
we got a ton of great emails from folks on
the road giving us the inside scoop into the world
of trucking and some of its pitfalls that we discussed
on the episode. It caught my interests. I've been driving
trucks myself for going on almost nine years now. I
became an owner operator leased on to an carrier about
(07:00):
a year ago. As a driver, I have lots of
time to listen to podcasts over the road, lol, And
we appreciate you hanging out with us. Jay. Well, it
is true what you guys said about there being a
bunch more smaller companies. The industry is still dominated by
the whales hard h on that one the whales. The
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large trucking companies still hold the most power by sheer
volume of resources. They are able to bleed more in
hard times when the money isn't flowing, whereas the mom
and pop companies that are barely staying afloat will have
to tap out much sooner. As with most other industries,
there's also the problem of the large companies buying up
(07:41):
smaller companies. We did talk a bit about that on
the episode. With favorable contracts, you can't beat them, just
buy them out. I guess the industry as a whole
can be very volatile. I believe there is still money
to be made, but you have to find your niche.
There are also plenty of companies megas is what we
call them in the industry that prey on people who
(08:03):
don't know better or are barely starting out in the
industry and offer truly terrible wages for the work performed.
Companies like Swift, Werner, Schneider and other vaguely German sounding names.
That's me, by the way, Swift is a company. I
used to have a friend. This is me Noel talking
growing up. He was actually the husband of one of
(08:24):
my school teachers. We became friends weirdly, and he drove
a truck, and he always made the joke that swift
stands for sure, wish I had a fast truck because
of the thing that we mentioned on the episode. A
lot of these companies put what are the governors on
their vehicles, which, to Matt's point off Mike, seems like
a fine thing in terms of road safety, but to
(08:47):
Ben's point in the episode, certainly doesn't allow for more,
you know, for faster travel times. You're kind of locked
in to, you know, the lay of the land, the
lay of the routes, and the maximum speed that your
swift truck will allow you to reach. Usually, these are
not good places to stay long term, unless you find
(09:08):
yourself on one of their better dedicated accounts that works
for you in the area you live. Otherwise, working for
these companies is usually not worth it. OTR is the
term you use, and I had to do a double
take and couldn't think of what that meant right off
the rip, so I left it out. But I think
it means on the road, working on the road OTR
for these companies, And we love industry jargon, Jay, so
(09:29):
thanks for that there's also some shady companies that hire
people on as ten ninety nine contractors. We've been there, guys.
Talk about that in a second. Despite the individual not
actually owning the truck, they pass on a lot of
the costs and taxes to individuals who don't know that
there are better, more promising, and higher paying jobs. There's
(09:51):
a lot of other nuanced stuff to the industry, and
I'd love to answer any questions you guys may have,
so I don't just bombarge all with a book length
email along Now this is the sweet spot of an
e email, Jay, and we appreciate all the good information here,
otherwise I have nothing else to add at the moment.
Keep up the show, guys. I found you vs stuff
you should know back in like twenty nineteen. Man, So
we got a no G conspiracy realist here, So thank
(10:12):
you so much Jay for that information. The ten ninety
nine of it all is fascinating because guys, you know,
we've been through various acquisitions in our careers, and I
certainly remember a time early on when I was getting
my start working for this company or what this company
you know started out as where this big corporation who
shall not be named was doing a lot of real
(10:34):
tricksy stuff like that where they were ten ninety ninety
people or having people listed is what's called contingent workers
with all these caveats that kept them from having to
pay you know, healthcare costs and do you know PTO
and all of that kind of stuff. And it was
so in the best interest of the company and in
the worst interest of us as individual workers. Because there
(10:56):
is even like a thing where you could only work
for X number of months and then you'd get temporarily
laid off so that the period would reset. Seems like
it should be absolutely illegal, as does this ten ninety
nine ing of folks who don't own the truck and
are causing I guess it's causing them to actually cover
some of the overhead and you know, pull that burden
(11:18):
off of the company itself. So I'd love to start there. Yeah,
I think that's an interesting point. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
Ten ninety nine is a strange thing that unfortunately a
lot of us in the crowd tonight have experienced directly.
It's the idea, let's work in reversal. So, first off,
thank you Jay. One of the weirdest comparisons to that
leave and come back. Thing with ten ninety nine or
(11:43):
contingency working is that it's a lot like living long
term in a foreign country at not being a citizen.
So you can stay for the amount of your visa
and then you have to leave the country for a second,
get a different stamp in you know, an adjacent country,
and then come back in your clock resets. And as
(12:04):
we mentioned on trucking is in trouble, the entirety of
the ten ninety nine or contingency grift, which it is,
is to put the onus of operating expenses further on
the person actually driving the truck. This happens a lot
in FedEx too, I would point out Jay, like a
lot of the FedEx trucks you see are contracted out.
(12:27):
They're like a third party thing, so that FedEx proper
can avoid some of the regulations or some of the
things you are legally required to give to a full
time employee.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Absolutely. Yeah, it never really occurred to me that this
kind of tricksy bookkeeping would play into the world of
truck driving as well. But of course it does. Anything
that you know saves the company is a buck Matt. Yeah.
Any thoughts on Jay's email before I bump to another one.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Well, I think often there's maybe a little too side baseball.
But at the risk of that the company where we work,
it is required that someone is some form of like
verified full employee before we can pull in contract work.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well, and that's been that's evolved as well, yes, right like,
And it's sort of one of those gray areas where
it tends to be up to the individual companies as
to how much they want to skirt some of these
federal regulations. And then it's all about exposure, right like.
It's like, how how tricksy do we want to be
lest we incur the wrath of the regulators.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Well, yes, and I'm just putting this out here. I
guess it's an experience in the executive producer role because
often when you're working on a project and you need
some specific work to be done, and you don't have
the personnel to do that specific work because everybody's busy
doing other things. It's really nice to have a contractor
(13:57):
come through that's just a third party person who's not
a part of the company, not a part of the
work you're doing right there, to get that work done.
And that's the entirety of the job you need from them, right.
It's kind of like the gig worker economy thing. It's
not great for the person who's going to do that
work because they're just coming in getting a paycheck for
a specific amount of time and a specific amount of work.
(14:18):
But it is work.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
I guess not to mention that we know from experience
over the years that those workers are also it's not
quite as high priority to get them paid in a
timely manner, and I'm sorry that that goes into some
of these calculations as well.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's a whole other thing whether or not the large entity,
if there is a large entity at play, is willing
to and ready to make those smaller payments and all
that stuff. It's easier to pay them if they're officially
on the payroll somewhere, right, But that's not taking into
account the whole healthcare of it all and the other
benefits that you would get from being a full time employee.
(14:57):
It just gets, it gets, it gets convoluted when you
get into the comptrollerness of it all was.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
A rude beg and you really dig into the rude
beca of it all too as well.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yeah, like the overhead accounting, like when you get into
the forty thousand foot accounting of it all, and then
you're looking down at all these different expenses, different human beings,
how you're paying them in all of the west Bucket right,
it's nuts. And I would say, I guess it's necessary
because of the systems in place, but it feels unnecessary
(15:27):
in the moment.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, agreed, And it feels unnecessarily convoluted, and again not
in the best interest of the individual employee. So I'm
gonna move on real quick. Just to a fun thank
you again, Jay for that info. This is a fun
one regarding our discussion of the Appalachian Trail and the
way sounds can bounce around and do real weird stuff
(15:51):
and play some pretty interesting tricks on your ears and
sort of act as like their own sort of syop team.
That's nice where we are a team. I currently this
comes to us by the way from Rock. I currently
reside in downtown Tulsa, Oklahoma. Through private donations are beloved.
Route sixty six is considered when east meets West. We
(16:12):
are on the Google Maps for that. As well as
having giant statues huntering Rosy the Riveter and Buck Adams,
we have also added the world's second musical bridge. Okay,
this is neat. With use of a line of bumps
and road signs, this land is Our Land is played.
That actually is kind of neat how it works. Unfortunately,
(16:35):
I live with an eyesight of the bridge, and my
bedroom window lines up precisely with a straight line facing
the bridge, with some sort of magic sound effect that
reverberates off my bedroom window, causing a low noise that
is audible when things are particularly quiet. While this is
very neat, it also drives me absolutely insane because now
I have this earworm that I can't shake. Guys, I
(16:57):
would love your feedback. I've not reached out to any
new or other information sources. Please see attached maps and
YouTube links. You can use my name as Rock. I
gotta look this up singing bridge, This land is cool.
Here comes right on up. City installs Oklahoma's first musical
(17:19):
road on Route sixty six, featuring Woody Guthries this land
is our land or your land rather, in further celebration
this is a relatively fresh story. Just as of March
of twenty twenty six, in preparation for the Route sixty
six centennial, the City of Tulsa has installed the first
musical road in the state of Oklahoma on the southwest
Bulevard Bridge, which runs parallel to the Cyrus Ivory Memorial Bridge,
(17:43):
an important landmark in Tulsa's history as the capital of
Route sixty six. Now in drivers head east towards downtown
at thirty five miles an hour. The song this Land
is Your Land by Oklahoma native Woody Guthrie plays, I
want to know how it works, though, Let's see, is
it literally triggering a playback of the speed of the bumps.
(18:05):
It's the bumps, so it's like the times or the
little bumps in a music box.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, that's why I have to be that exact MP.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
That exact speed, sort of like beats per minute again
on a music box where you're rotating a drum that
has little ticks on it, and the times of the
you know, musical note producing thing that are literally just
like metal times. They're tuned to different pitches as they
click over the bumps, which you could think of as
(18:33):
musical notes, or if you're a computer music person, think
of it as like a MIDI layout, you know, or
you're clicking thing and that's what's making the notes it
is going to play the song. That is pretty cool,
but also sorry about the hum and the thrum of it.
All rock. That's got to be a little bit irritating,
but pretty.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Cool, Isn't it interesting? Because the design of that is
for individuals inside a vehicle that are traveling at that
speed going down that road, right, that's an experience you're
giving them.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
But if you're static, you're just gonna hear the one
part or the one note repeated over and over. Bro,
I didn't even think about that at all. You're only
getting the full picture as you progress, and you're going
so fast that that's not going to be the same
experience for anybody with a bird's eye view of the
of the spot or a bird's ear view as rock
seems to have. That's a really good point, Matt.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
It's the difference between holding a music box and playing
it right and then getting to stop when you know
when it stops, or somebody that or I don't know,
I don't what is the analogy here, somebody just holding
music boxes running past you all day long? Yeah, playing well,
think of.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
It as like if you're riding your bike down a
walking trail, the way you just hear a snippet of
a conversation or a word if you're moving fast enough.
But the reverse of that.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
You know what I mean, that's awful. Yeah, at least
it's a good song. That's a fun song.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
It's a fun song. What do you gout? Thrie is
a neat figure. I highly recommend how Ashby film. I'm
not a big fan of biopics in general, especially if
it's a figure that I'm you know, super familiar with,
and music ones in general just kind of turned me off.
But I really really enjoyed this film by how Ashby,
who did Harold and Maud if you're familiar with that movie,
(20:17):
and like a handful of other really classic kind of
seventies pieces of important cinema. It tells the story of
Woody Guthrie, who is played by I believe it's Keith Carradine,
not David Krodine, and he does a fabulous job. And
it kind of has the vibe of There Will be
Blood just in its epicness and period accuracy and specificity.
(20:39):
But it's it's a story of like rising up and
about labor, you know, disputes, and about how Woody Guthrie
kind of didn't sell out. It's nice to, you know,
see a famous person who kind of sticks to their guns.
So yeah, definitely check that out if you're looking for
a cool biopic. And I'm so sorry, I'm just gonna
correct this. Don't want to have to make Dylan do
an edit. The film is actually called Bound for Glory,
(21:00):
not This Land Is Your Land, and it is David
Carradine of Kung Fu fame before that became a thing
playing what he got through as he comes up in
the dust bowl in Texas and you know, becomes sort
of a cult folk hero. And you'll also probably know
what he got through. Was famous for having a guitar
that said this machine kills fascists, which is kind of badass.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Isn't Carodine Bill?
Speaker 3 (21:23):
He's Bill and kill Bill?
Speaker 7 (21:25):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
That is that is correct. He is Kane from Kung
Fu who walks to Earth. He's also the titular Bill
in Kill Bill.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
He's also in Lone Wolf McQuaid I've ever heard of
but it's got Chuck Norris.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Is that a movie or is that a TV sp.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It looks to be an action western that is an
hour and forty seven minutes that came out in nineteen
eighty three, the year of You.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Have to check it out. Lone Wolf McQuaid. Do check
that one out too, if you're looking for those genre
touch points that Matt just mentioned. So huge thanks to
Jay and Rock, which sounds like a really cool hip
hop group. We're gonna take a quick break here where
from our sponsor, and then we'll be back with some
more listener Now.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
And we've returned. Guess where we're going, guys.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
The moon.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
It's where you don't need roads and the voicemails. We're
gonna hear a quick one that is applicable to YouTube gents,
because you're gonna be able to give some information that
will that will be very important for me to hear.
(22:40):
I kind of got to eat this one, guys. It's
from Brocknest Monster and let's just let's just see what
he has to say.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
Hey, this is a message for Matt Frederick. Matt, this
is the Brocknest Monster, and I'm putting you on notice.
I know you think your big stuff with your two scoops,
all the raising brand, but I'm here to tell you man,
it's an inferior cereal. That's right, I said, it. Raisin
nut brin is far better in terms of taste texture. Also,
(23:09):
it doesn't make you fart as much. Raisin brand very farty.
If you're wanting to argue at that point, I am
just going to direct you to the Ridiculous History podcast
episode about the h I don't know what it was called.
It may have been called the Fartist, but there was
some guy in France and the late eighteen hundred. Apparently
they just live in farting various compositions, classical pieces, popular songs,
(23:36):
national anthems. And he did that by eating lots of brand,
lots of There's two scoops that you're scooping in your face,
raisin brand. It's not good for you, man, it's bad
for your your friends because toot's pollute, right, I said it.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm out, Okay, Matt, I gotta be right up front.
And the two Scoops does not refer to the brand
rock Nest. The two Scoops refers to the raisin content
of the of the cereal. And I think I've come
down my position on this made it clear over the years.
I am anti raisin in most any form, so I
actually refuse myself from this from this debate.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Well, I got bad news for me and everybody else.
Raisins also make you a little tooty, or at least
they can, just like brand.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Is that the same thing? I guess being regular means
pooping a lot or pooping, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Just getting You're getting a lot of fiber in your
diet when you're eating that stuff, apparently. And I was
looking on a lot of websites like Everyday Health, very well, Health,
all the things, and then you put health at the
end and this r L they all say, yeah, brand
can can make irritable boll syndrome worse. It is a
good source of fiber, but oh but it could be
(24:51):
bad for all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
But you remember the SNL sketch sketch colon blow. Yeah, yeah,
that was sort of parodying. Yes, that was parodying these
types of cereals precisely, thank you.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
And they replace your toilet with a tiny little joke holes.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
It's just enough for farts. I just watched that the
other day.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, well, I want to know more about this episode
of ridiculous history. Guys, what can you tell me about it?
How do I find it? Do we remember what it
was called?
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Sure?
Speaker 5 (25:25):
It's called Roland the Farder and also Brocknests always great
to hear from you. Thank you, Brocknest. Behind the Curtain,
you send us some amazing emails. You will just drop
a lead to us that opens an entire subterranean rabbit hole.
The thing that we're talking about here specifically is our
(25:45):
August thirtieth, twenty eighteen episode Roland the Farther and the
Weird World of Professional Flatulence. That's where you learn more
about the petalmol, and that's where you'll learn more about
you know, what I would say was a very brave
form of groundbreaking, wind breaking theater.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yeah, I mean it's certainly a form of performance art,
though I don't know that that's what it was viewed
at as at the time. It was just I guess
he was sort of a novelty act. But didn't he
like perform for like royalty and stuff. I mean, like,
I feel like he was very sought after or far after.
M I like that, Yeah he was, you're doing a
(26:29):
great job and he was. Yeah, he was.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Performing to sold out theaters, the kind of places that
would have the celebrity musicians of the day, right, that
would have the justin Timberlakes, for instance. They would say, like,
this guy's played you know, here's the guy you expect
to play this, you know, Friday night, but stay in
the neighborhood for Saturday because Le Petalmont is going to
(26:53):
teach you the right way to us seeing the player.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Now, you know, you want to say, La petal Man
was a different guy, and Roland was was an older
two different guys, that's right. So Roland le patois or
Roland the Farder. He's referred to as a medieval You
look at this on paper and you read floutest, but
it's not. It's flatialist court jester kind of. He's a
corn jester kind of dude. And he was so beloved
(27:18):
by King Henry the Second and and some subsequent rulers
that he was like given like a plot of land
and a manner.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
And suffolk. If only you could smell it.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Joseph all the way.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Actually, Joseph is the later petal that's the guy's selling out.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
The beautiful Well guys, thank you, my my bowels, thank you, procnesse,
my family. I'm assuming, thanks you. I'm going to move
away from my beloved two scoops and I'll find something different.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
A third scoop man double double what you know.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna listen to Brognas.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Between all the reasons and all the hot sauces, your
poops must.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Be fascinating, very spicy. Okay, guys. A little while back,
we received a call from Anonymous about the missing General
mccaslan and several other missing and murdered scientists. There were
some connections made there.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Did you see that they were asked about that, or
that Carolyn Lenatt was asked about that openly by the
press and said we're going to look right into that
for you.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
It's very Yeah, it's a very strange situation where there
is now acknowledgment at the upper echelons that this is occurring,
and it is strange that there there are these connections,
but the full connections aren't really being made even on
Newsweek and other publications that are doing a great job
keeping up with, you know, information as it comes out
(28:57):
that the full true connections aren't they But Anonymous is
kind of making some of these connections. And we have
to say at this point before even playing the message,
we can't verify these connections. We said this before. We
cannot verify the connections that you're gonna hear, but they
are curious and pretty intense if some of this stuff
(29:20):
is true. In that original voicemail, we couldn't understand one
thing regarding Ravens. Do you guys remember this? He said
something about Raven. We just couldn't understand the audio. And
it wasn't an anonymous fault, it was just a phone system. Well, guys,
he is called back and he's gonna give us some
Raven clarification, and he is he is adding a slew
(29:45):
of new threads for us to investigate. So if you
don't mind, if you're listening to this and it is
possible physically for you to take notes while you're listening,
please do so. Let's play a little game. Let's see
how many notes we can take. We're looking for proper nouns, dates, times,
We're looking for all this stuff because these are threads
that we can follow and hopefully come to some kind
(30:08):
of understanding about what's going on here. So here we go.
This is dense. That's a warning here comes.
Speaker 9 (30:18):
Yeah, Hey, guys, this is anonymous again. I just listened
to your most recent episode. Regarding the castline of data
and have some great information you put out there. Thank you,
and I apologize for the quality of met audio. Apparently
I was pretty hard to hear. So let me start
again clearing up the raven eye. That's raven The bird
eye is an eyeball, and this is Riverside project. It's
(30:41):
an agenic AI that's tied with the CIA, and if
you take a look at that, you'll get into it.
But let's talk about this real quick, because it was
on March fourth, just five days after the Caslin witnessing
at Riverside research with public with their new agenic AI
framework called raven I. They call it an Intelligent Cycle Accelerator,
but it's really an automated brain of the Star a
satellite network, which we're gonna talk about in a second.
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Here.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
Another thing to look at is look into the AeroVironment
av acquisition.
Speaker 7 (31:06):
Of Blue Halo.
Speaker 9 (31:07):
There was a time during the contract pause time in
March that allowed them to make transfers without any oversight.
Speaker 7 (31:16):
Pretty important to look at.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
And it wasn't a delay, it was a blackout window
and allowed them to move special nuclear materials from Kirkland
to a non government site. Triunity site, take a look
at that one McDonald house, and then again look into
the SMB spaceships, which I think he mostly did.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
And the claims about what happened with Rossi's.
Speaker 9 (31:34):
Are not playing ball when they wanted to move nuclear
materials at that time.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
So maybe mccassle and even.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
Was a way to prevent something from happening to him
going tomcastline. He didn't just wander off on twenty seven.
That was a hard deadline. He was the final snator
needed to move a legacy assets into private sector vacuum
before the new overnight rules kicked in a new legacy program.
Look at the acquisition, like I said of aerovironments, check
the coordinates of the Trinity site and look for civilian
(32:02):
registered transport trucks and unmarked planings landing at White Sands.
This is all Coco now contract owned, contractor operated. Ask
your listeners who had the General's biometric keys three hours
after he vanished because someone used his ADMIN logging to
pain the Badger facility in Albert Purkey that afternoon. As
far as I know, most people lose, not lose their
(32:23):
security clearances, but have it placed on hold when they
go missing. If you have a high enough clearance. If
you look at the lance at nine thermal image data
for the Trinity site on March fourth, you'll see the
McDonald ranch house was glowing while the desert.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
Was near freezing.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
That's pretty suspicious. Let's look at some of the Caaslein's connections.
So Applied Technology Associated, he was a president. They eventually
became Blue Halo, where he became a board advisor on
their Board of Technology. He sits at a board of
trustee with the Riverside Research. He sits with the new
Mexico Space Authority on the board of Directors. He served
on other numerous committees regarding the National Security, Space Defense
(32:59):
and Protection. He's a DOOD advisor where he frequently consults
for the Space Rapid Capabilities Office sp GOVER. So if
you look at this, truslinn is kind of a commander
in this. He held the Adam keys. He's the only
one who would authorize raven and I at Pocket Space
Force satellite ground stations. Lurero, the MIT plasma expert, killed
in December. Raven I needs high density power and he
(33:20):
was the only one who could really audit the nuclear
energy source. The CS would be the gatekeeper. She managed
the nuclear inventory at Los Alamos before it was Priority
Alpha transferred to the Trinity site. The technical pillars would
be res of the builder missing since June. She built
the propulsion tech at the raven E. Leaked sensors would
have required here's a new name for you, Frank my
(33:42):
wallt m aiw Ald. He would have been the calms
guy NASA JLP expert on deep space sensors. He built
the eyes that fed the AI data. Carl Gruelmeyer, the tracker,
the Caltech astrophysicist killed in February. He was a manual
backup for tracking deep space objects the human finance link
with Jason Thomas that he was found dead in March.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
He was bridging the.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
Gap between human cognitive signals and the AI. Very egenic
AI at Riverside just announced ROSSI with the money, and
he was tracking the five hundred and eighty million oil
features that funded this entire move. So again, look into
the Riverside Research Network Modernization paper for March sixteen, and
that's why I'm missing in general, cited at the current
(34:22):
asset for a roadmap relief after he vanished too. Look
for the ghost being at the Blue Hellow Badger's facility
and Abuquerque somebody used the castle's biometric heat three hours
after he disappeared. And again, if you look at the
landsat nine thermal data, you'll see something very weird going on.
Speaker 7 (34:37):
In March fourth.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
I hope this helps guys stay safe, and I'll update
you if I get any more information.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Huh, Dance is right?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Okay, So I tried to take notes. I got about
a page I think on the notes app here. Holy lord,
it's really interesting to hear someone listed off the folks
that are listed in Newsweek and other publications as the
folks who are connected to this group of missing and
(35:09):
murdered scientists, and then connect them in a way to
some project that we kind of don't really we can't
verify that this ravenie thing that an honest is talking
about is the thing, the project, whatever it is that
all of these folks are directly connected to. But it's
really interesting to think about them as all connected to
(35:30):
one thing, right, and that one thing is the reason
they're all disappearing or being killed.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Or dying.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Rather, let's say, but it's kind of mind blowing, to
be honest.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
What kind of response are you expecting, Matt, like I
joked around maybe about like, we'll get right on that.
That's literally more or less what Caroline Levitt said when
faced with a question about this, And she wasn't flippant
about it. She wasn't, you know, conspiratorial or fake news
about it. She said, we'll get back to you on that.
D you see it just withering and never being addressed.
(36:08):
I just was kind of taken aback by how straightforwardly
she responded to that.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well, I hasn't it been addressed by potus? I think
the president has made some kind of statement about it, at.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
Least that update. I'd love to hear about it.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
He's acknowledged that it's happening. At least.
Speaker 5 (36:26):
Yeah, we talked about it in a previous Strange News program,
I think just last week as some of the oh
yeah news was coming out that Noel mentioned Levitt there
anonymous and first off, I want to thank you so
much for this excellent research and taking the time to
call us back recontact us. Second, yes, I can confirm
(36:47):
that point, maybe, Matt. Yeah, we did previously talk about it.
The President of the United States, perhaps the cynical would
say that he desperately was looking for it on Epstein
news bite to get out there the airwaves. But he
definitely said we are going to look into it. And
I think the joke Dylan and I had was it
(37:10):
reminds us very much of that line from don't tell
Mom the Babysitters Dead. I'll get right on that rose
because there was no promise of a timeline.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yeah, I was outsick that day I missed it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, same.
Speaker 9 (37:24):
That.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I'm really yeah. I'm glad you guys talked about it, though,
because it's important that it's at least being acknowledged as
a thing that is happening. The problem is, can you
trust what the FBI, the DOJ whoever, even if you
know who is going to investigate that that we can
actually trust is going to get the job done. And
(37:46):
if they find something untoward, like let's say, hmm, I
don't know some of these massive multinational Yeah, one of
these giant multinational weapons manufacturers and dealers is behind something
like this. You know, perhaps it's some kind of outside
(38:07):
country that is manipulating in some way, but to me
that doesn't seem as likely. It seems as though there's
a lot of stuff going on with these folks that's
directly tied to weapons manufacturers, private contractors. They have these
big contracts with government. We know it's a murky world,
and we know that there are billions of dollars at stake.
(38:27):
It's really weird.
Speaker 5 (38:28):
And anonymous fellow conspiracy realist, you gentlemen, I have to mention,
in full objectivity, there is one company that would be
amazing at tracing all these connections and proving or disproving things.
There is one company above all who would do a
(38:49):
great job figuring this out with us if they wanted to.
Can you guys guess the name of that company, Palenteer.
It is Palenteer. Noel, you are getting a toaster as
a prize too.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
I was gonna say Riverside Research, which is one of
the names mentioned in the call here. But Palenteer is
a great book.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yes, it's a really good point because these the power,
the extreme power of a tool or a network of
tools like Palenteer. Think of the good it could do
if in the hands of you know, those that would
use it for good? Yeah, yeah, but what is good?
(39:27):
And I don't mean to be sarcastic. I was gonna
make a similar point It depends on what side of
you know, history you're on. But like, yeah, good lord,
I mean it's sort of like that thing in Batman
Begins or whichever one it was, where they have the
Palenteer esque thing that uses every cell phone and turns
it into a microphone Dark Knight. Yeah, you know what
I'm talking about. It was a movie. And the whole
(39:50):
point is we can only use this once to do
the good thing, save the world, and then it has
to be destroyed m And that's what something like Palenteer is.
Only no one's gonna destroy it and they're not going
to use it to save the world.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Well here here is kind of the the dark truth
of all this stuff. Paleteer is the big player in
the game, you know, out there doing their thing, making
all those connections, getting embedded into the military and all
that stuff. Well they're not the only ones in the game.
Raven I, which Anonymous tried to point us to the
(40:25):
first time, and now we're finally on target here. Raveni
is something created by Riverside Research. You can find it
right now on riverside research dot org slash Raveni. That's
our a V E N e ye. You can learn
that they are trying to make their own agentic AI
(40:47):
framework that quote automates the end to end intelligence process,
delivering timely, mission aligned insights that help analysts and decision
makers anticipate threats, measure impact, and respond proactively in dynamic
operational environments. This is precisely the kind of thing that
we've talked about when we discuss modeling the Earth modeling,
(41:11):
you know, in wartime like everything from army intelligence to
OCENT to GEOINT to SIGAN, all of these things, all
the NS well, all of the different versions of intelligence,
styles of intelligence that are out there. It tries to
put them all together so that you, as the operator
(41:34):
or as the decision maker, you can decide what the
right move is. Do we put that blockade in now?
Is that the right time to put the blockade in?
What happens if we put the blockade in? How what's
the response from Iran? What happens if we take it
away for a little bit and then bring it back.
What's the response. It's that kind of thing, and it
(41:57):
uses all kinds of different data that it's collecting. It
quote detects sentient shifts, protest planning, foreign influence in emerging threats.
Do you hear what I'm saying, guys? It it can
(42:17):
indicate things that are going to happen, such as protest
planning and foreign influence and sentiment shifts in a country
or a region like this is the kind of thing
that we're talking about. The modeling that is pallinteer like.
If we're going back to Lord of the Rings and.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Then kind it almost becomes predictive, like pre crime type stuff.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
If you're not convinced by their website, you can head
over to YouTube find Riverside Research on there. They have
ninety eight subscribers as of today Wednesday, April twenty second.
Nobody's paying attention, nobody's watching these videos. They have all
all kinds of demos and things, including a raven Ie
g Oint twenty twenty five demo that was posted eleven
(43:08):
months ago May sixteenth, twenty twenty five. You can see
the demos of their their tech there. It's you know who.
Nobody on this show is saying that raven I has
anything to do with these missing and murdered scientists. We
are saying, we got a caller who is connecting that
thing to those things. We are very interested in this
(43:30):
because that was a compelling call, guys. With so much information,
there is lots to learn in other things, not just
raven I, also Aero Environment and Blue Halo. You can
go to a lot of places online and learn about
that little transaction that occurred. There is some PR available
(43:50):
a press release from May first, twenty twenty five. Aero
Vironment that's a E R O v I R O
N M E n T and Blue Halo b l
U e HLO complete transaction creating a global defense technology,
a giant global defense technology. It's a leader built for
(44:14):
strategic advantage in modern warfare. That's what says in the
PR here. It's really interesting it did. They did finalize
that purchase, that transaction right around the time mccaslan went missing.
Leading up to it. At least check out the Trinity
site that's mentioned in here, that's in the White Sands
Missile range. You can watch that movie Oppenheimer if you
(44:37):
want to learn more about that place. And there is
a house on there called the George McDonald ranch House
that is mentioned. You can look that up pretty easily
and find information on that. And lastly, we'll put you
onto a piece by Joe Edwards in Newsweek put out
on April twentieth, twenty twenty six. Wave of missing dead
scientists could be foreign operation colon Congressman. It has a
(45:02):
full list of all the people that are missing and
what's going on there. If you want to just continue
tracking this on your own. For now, we've put out
all this information, Anonymous. We appreciate it. Thank you for
just sending it our way. So many rabbit holes to
go down, guys, I think it's a full episode.
Speaker 3 (45:19):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
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Speaker 4 (45:22):
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Speaker 5 (45:30):
Side note, Anonymous, you might want to look into some
of our previous episodes where we discussed some work from
our grad school days that were exactly what is happening
now presaged it. So look into Georgia Tech Mit, look
into DARPA. Our next messages are going to come from
some emails. We've got an overdue one that we're just
(45:53):
gonna read quickly because I'm not gonna say this is
all of me thing, but I think we all as
a crew and hopefully you as our audience, concerned with
the ongoing silent crisis of environmental disasters and cover ups,
and this is where we hear from Jill. So, Jill,
(46:16):
you say, hi, guys, I recently listened to your episode
on Coldwater Creek and really appreciated the way you covered
the issue.
Speaker 4 (46:23):
Thank you, Jill.
Speaker 5 (46:24):
I live in the suburbs, says Jill of Saint Louis,
so while I'm close enough to be familiar with the situation,
I'm not close enough to be directly impacted. Hopefully that's true, Jil.
Your discussion, you say, prompted me to share some related
local contexts that may be of interest. Around twenty eighteen,
a documentary called Atomic home Front highlighted another legacy uranium
(46:49):
processing issue in the Saint Louis areas. Guys, there's another
one at play. In nineteen seventy three, approximately forty seven
thousand tons of the same radio active waste associated with
Coldwater Creek were moved from Latty Avenue and illegally dumped
in a neighborhood landfill known as the Westlake Landfill. That
(47:10):
landfill became an EPA Superfund site in nineteen ninety. Since
twenty ten, an uncontrolled subsurface fire in the adjacent Bridgeton
Landfill has been moving toward the area where the radioactive
waste is buried, and we checked into this jail.
Speaker 4 (47:27):
It looks like the fire has yet.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
To be contained.
Speaker 5 (47:30):
Honestly, A major concern within the community, you say, is
that if this fire reaches the radioactive material, contaminants could
become airborne and migrate off site, potentially affecting surrounding communities.
Current plans indicate that excavation of the radioactive waste is
expected to begin in twenty twenty seven. Hopefully the remediation
(47:54):
will progress quickly and be successful. Thanks again for shedding
light on these important environ mental and public health issues. Guys,
can you believe it? Coldwater Creek got even worse and
there may be a further disaster ahead. It's like that
Mouth of Hell thing, you know, like in Centralia. Pennsylvania
is another example where the fire just kept burning and
(48:16):
people can't stop it.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Oh yeah, I'm on the Atomic Homefront dot film website.
They've got a really great resource here for news. You know,
it's press coverage about Atomic home Front, the documentary, but
also a press coverage about everything going on there. It's
a cock gosh. It's just so many links here to stories.
(48:42):
Most of it's going back to like twenty nineteen though, yeah, see,
and oh they have a news archive though from nineteen
seventy six all the way to twenty seventeen, which is, oh,
this is great.
Speaker 5 (48:56):
Yeah, and twenty nine days ago, you go to the
Saint Louis Post disc at or Saint Louis if you prefer,
by Bryce Gray, you're going to see the report that
the EPA has said, we are definitely going to clean
up this radioactive material, so we can confirm what you're
saying there, j Ill. But I don't love how it
feels like a ticking clock, you know what I mean,
(49:19):
as a fire potentially reaches closer and closer to a
tipping point here, and it's crazy that this is not
being reported more widely as the crisis that it is.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
They've got there. I'm looking at a map here of
the Saint Louis North County site projected radioactivity distribution Laddie
Avenue area, and they actually went out there with Geiger
counters and tested the entire area, and it's just so
it's just showing, yeah, like exact spots there that we
talked about on the Coldwater Creek episode, and how much
(49:54):
radiation is in the soil versus background, and it's intense.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
Yeah, and the bes efficity of the sites is intense
as well, j Ill, this is probably an episode in
the future for us to investigate, because you are not
the only fellow conspiracy realist who has written in and
contacted us with these ongoing environmental and infrastructural If I'm
(50:20):
going to churchify a word, catastrophes just waiting to happen.
The world is swinging on a pendulum here the United
States in particular. And Nope, before we head out to
our next piece of listener mail, do you still have
a connect with people in the Georgia larger Southeast region
who monitor these kind of environmental cover ups?
Speaker 3 (50:43):
No, not so much. But I definitely spent some time
reporting on clean up efforts like Savannah Riverside, and it
was all mainly internal, and you know, there were some
organizations that were sort of watchdog groups that I would
call for comment occasionally and now completely spacing on who
some of those were, but like the Savannah River Keepers
(51:04):
for example, was a big one, but they were more
looking at water pollution and wildlife tracking. But some of
that did crossover because of the potential for irradiated, you know,
turtles and stuff like that. So but I'll get back
to you. I got to I gotta look back at
some of my old contacts and see if there's an
organization that was more precisely associated with overseeing all this
(51:28):
radiation cleanup.
Speaker 5 (51:30):
Awesome, and folks, keep the correspondencies coming on this because
it seems like, unfortunately, we are going to have a
series on looming environmental disasters, not just in the United States.
We'll take it global and we're going to move to
something a little bit different. We said we're going to
(51:52):
book d listener mail with trucking. At least two pieces
of trucking information we had. Here's one we've got coming
in Piping Hot from PCC thirty eight Lightning. We're going
to paraphrase a little bit of this for time, but
the story is fascinating, you guys, and it kind of
takes a too pronged approach. So PCC, if I could
(52:13):
be familiar with you, you say, I've been in the
transportation industry for forty years as a driver. I still
hold a Class ACDL tractor trailer license, that's commercial driver license.
I've been a transportation director and a logistics software consultant.
With this background, I wanted to say that you represented
the current issues fairly well for the broad audience. Thank
(52:36):
you so much, PCC, because as you know, we don't
have our CDLs currently, but we're intimately, as every American is,
we are intimately tied up with the fortune and the
dangers of the trucking industry. You continued, PCC, I was
especially glad to hear your take on the potential rise
of autonomous trucking. Companies are pouring billions of dollars into
(52:59):
making this a real thing, and you touched on some
of the key points on why that is happening. The
driver shortage. There's been a reported driver shortage since I
entered the industry. I'm not saying that there isn't one.
Now there are fewer and fewer people interested in OTR
or over the road rolls, the long haul freight stuff.
(53:20):
They're more of a biscuit crowd. And here, guys, PCC
sent us a laughy smile of Moji. So we're gonna
have to find out what the biscuit crowd is. Do
you guys have an idea?
Speaker 4 (53:32):
Is it lingo?
Speaker 3 (53:33):
No? Okay, the biscuit crowd. I don't know that one.
Is that like the people come in to.
Speaker 4 (53:43):
The biscuits. Is it a real biscuit or is it
like slang.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Let's see, a biscuit can refer to a pistol a firearm.
Speaker 5 (53:52):
Yeah, exactly, Folks, right into us conspiracy diheartradio dot com
and please help your hopefully favorite host figure out what
biscuit crowd.
Speaker 4 (54:00):
Is PCC, right back to us.
Speaker 5 (54:03):
You continue, and there's a very interesting historical point that
PCC raises for US gents. You say, looking back to
the sixties and eighties, nineteen sixties, nineteen eighties, much of
the driving corps was coming from the military, and they
had an Uncle Sam provided skill set. So what better
place to process your post Vietnam PTSD than long hours
(54:27):
on a black ribbon of asphalt.
Speaker 4 (54:29):
That is a phenomenal writing there, PCC.
Speaker 5 (54:32):
You say the military was good training for being away
from home for long stretches of time and having that
lifestyle understood by the family back home. As time moved on,
normal folks have less incentive to go out on the
big road. I'm sure you guys are aware that many
kids no longer feel the urge to get a license
at sixteen, eighteen, orever. And let's pause there, because we've
(54:56):
had some of those conversations. I think we all know
some and comers who have, for one reason or another,
been hesitant to get a driver's license, or just said
they weren't really feeling it.
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