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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
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pleased to welcome you to July the sixteenth, twenty twenty
(00:51):
six and Tennessee. What better way to commemorate July the
sixteenth than to have a little Baga maybe route for them.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, this just came across my desk. It seems to
be a response to last week.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
M Hi, guys, it's your friend Billy Bega. You might
have heard an ad for a new Bagel World game
starring Negative William This makes me sad. He was made
without my input and it is not the way I want.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
To save Bagel World.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Please boycott Bagel World Evolutions and buy my new game,
Bega Buddies World Tour. We're racing Rudebiga carts and digging
up a great time. Oh my friends are there also.
Don't trust the government. Bye.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
That boying sound is the sound of Rude Bega's. When
I think of Rude Begas, I hear that boying sound.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, it's what it's what it sounds like when you
pull them from the ground. We checked with several agricultural experts.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
For sure, especially in eight bit form.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But yeah, we're supposed to trust right the government.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
No one we trust in Rudebega's.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's funny you see it, guys. I was rewatching one
of the best shows on television. It's always sunny in Philadelphia.
They have an awesome escape room episode. I'm not going
to say it's perfect because art is subjective, but there's
a big deal of time they spend where they talk
about the keys to success as being a dude, and
(02:23):
Danny DeVito's character Frank Reynolds goes ten toes down saying
we all know he has a weird litany of guidance
to success in business, and he says, number one, the
head cow always grazes, and number two, the key to
business is to never trust another man. Ah, I got
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to ask, like, do we trust each other.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Not for a second, No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Maybe just for fourteen years, but not for a second,
not for a second. Yeah, I plead the fifth, all right,
And while we're pleading the fifth, we are going to
explore some correspondence from your fellow conspiracy realist. We can't
wait to talk about British elections. There's some very serious
(03:15):
stuff happening in a town in Ohio. Before we do
any of that, we want to thank everybody whoever worked
at that subway in the Pentagon food court.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
We'll be right back and we have returned. Subway guy,
where do you stand on subway? Subway? Still on the game?
I know the very much, so I.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Know they're the most like they're the most widespread fast
food franchise.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Okay, I guess we're talking here in terms of quality
over quantity, Like, is do y'all f with subway or
is it more like a Jimmy Johns or a Jersey
Mike's situation? If you're going to go the sub.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Route, Firehouse, baby, you areouzzos, Firehouse and quizzows.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
This is the way. I didn't know Quiznos was still
a thing. Okay, couple, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It's like there there are like two of them at
the San Francisco Zoo and they won't.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Reproduce, and one at the Las Vegas Airport.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Of course amazing. Of course, I remember that we've talked
about this.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You can you can cable, you can gamble for the
price of the turkey sub oh man.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So yeah, some friends of mine in the neighborhood here
owned the family owned a firehouse subs and I have
heard such good things about how the money actually works there.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
No that goes towards fully support Yeah, let's explain a
little bit. But just know where getting derailed on subs
here for a second. But I wasn't sure that that
was true. So you're saying, I know, I do know
that every single franchise has a unique mural that depicts
firemen and first responders. But I do believe a portion
of their proceeds go towards good causes. What do you got, Matt?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, and literally fire houses got.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Okay, it's as simple as that. Well, I do respect
that it's.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
A franchise like any other. Right you own one and
to make money, to make a profit, to have a
business support yourself, your family or whatever.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
Else.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
But there is a really good side too, and it
doesn't happen every time with fast food groups.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Well, it's good to hear that firehouse subs are some
of the corporate good guys relatively speaking. But we are
not talking about firehouse subs or firemen or fires really,
we are talking about an organization that doesn't need any
proceeds from any fast food establishments because they get all
the money from us, the taxpayer, and that would be
the Pentagon. And I had no idea that Pentagon has
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quite an airport level baller food court. And that is
just one of several things that we learned in this
email from Hannah. It's a little bit of a long line,
but it gives us some really great food for thought.
And we'll jump right in after I read it. So
here we go. My name is Hannah. I emailed you
all a few years ago after listening to the Burry
Seal epid so as my dad was the direct handler
(06:02):
if you will, Okay, that's something to talk about another time.
Because more of my dad's involvement with the United States
government has been published online, I've become continuously invested in
governmental knowledge and the conspiracies around it. This email turned
out longer than I intended, but I promised that it
is worth the read. Back. In May, I took a
master's graduation trip to Washington, DC. I went on a
tour of every government building that I could get a
(06:23):
reservation for the Capitol, White House, FBI Headquarters, the Pentagon,
and so many more. I had a fantastic experience that
also activated the tiny conspiracy theorist in my brain. Love
a tiny conspiracy theorist living in your brain. I wanted
to reach out and see if this would be a
topic you would be interested in discussing. First off, there
is so much more inside the Pentagon than I think
(06:45):
the general public is aware. This is me agreeing. The
history behind the actual building is intriguing and it is huge.
We walked one point five miles on our tour in
an hour, and we only covered sixteen percent of the building.
Inside the Chocolate's here, a jewelry store, dry cleaners, a
post office, a florist, multiple banks, eight plus fast food restaurants,
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department stores, and literally anything that you would have to
run an errand for they had it in the building.
Here's an online map to see all of the different
food restaurants and stores that are open to shop in. Obviously,
this is an audio only episode, but I highly recommend
searching that up is it is findable. It is WHS,
(07:28):
dot Mill Slash Services, Dash and Dash Information Slash DoD
CC not the worst url in the world. And it
has a map like mall style with logos of all
of the restaurants, which included five guys, A Popeyes, a
Lebanese taverna if you're in some of that, a little bistro,
(07:50):
one Oa, Jamba Juice or Jama as it's called now.
And this is with the updated logo. By the way, Moe's, McDonald's,
Taco Bell, some young brands. Subway. You know what's funny though, guys,
it actually says here there's two subways. One of them
is a subway vending machine. You're right, You've got a
sandwich from a vending machine. Maybe in Japan I might
(08:10):
trust that process, but I'm not sure about here in
the States. We'll get back to that. And then some
kind of more like market basket, like a little grocery
store says it's open twenty four to seven. There's two
of them, one on each side. Same with Fresh Kitchen,
as there's also a fresh kitchen cart, sushi pot, belly sandwiches,
(08:31):
et cetera. Fascinating, And then there's a whole nother map
showing a lot of the types of shops that you
can enjoy some you know on site shopping at.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Dude, I'm quite interested in smoke Debt barbecue.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Exactly is that DC style barbecue that we keep hearing
so much about. But to continue this is wild stuff.
Another topic of interest was when our tour guide walked
us by the section of the Pentagon which struck on
nine to eleven. He informed us, and y'all may know this,
this is news to me that part of that part
of the building was under construction at the time the
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plane hit, and most offices were vacant when the attack happened,
which prevented additional fatalities on that day. That's another conspiracy
for another day. If we want to talk about, you know,
time and place, whether that was planned or not. I
don't think it was, but I think that's what our
listeners get in a here for security purposes. Here's where
(09:31):
it gets really interesting. They are very strict on technology usage.
When you set foot onto Pentagon property. It's like I
want to see. At Dave Chappelle show, they do not
allow photography of any kind, even of the outside of
the building. Once you step inside, all technology has to
be completely out of sight. If you took your phone
out of your pocket at all while going through security,
you would be immediately escorted from the building. There is
(09:52):
a small gift shop where you're allowed to use your
phone and take photos before the start of the tour
for the same security reasons. Before the start or the tour,
every guest had to turn off and lock any device
with a microphone or that could connect to Bluetooth phones,
smart watches, AirPods, headphones, et cetera. And we're talking about
not lock like lock your phone. We're talking about lock
(10:13):
in a lock box, a physical lock box. That's why
I made the Dave Chappelle reference. You held onto your
locker key throughout the tour, and then you got your
devices back at the end. Throughout the tour, I noticed
that the same small device lockers were outside of every
single office in the Pentagon. Our tour guide informed us
that any individuals entering an office must turn off and
lock their personal devices in the locker. We've certainly heard
(10:36):
this before, just even in the news outside the Upbell.
We also know a lot of exceptions are made in
the current administration. Weirdly, any device that could potentially be
hacked for someone to listen, to, read, or access was
not allowed to prevent the possibility of spies accessing those devices.
You can read more about it in the Pentagon Device Policy,
which you can also find online just google Pentagon Device Policy.
(10:57):
It's fascinating pdf.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We are saying that the human beings that go to
the Pentagon to today and work and they also have
to do this process.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
They're supposed to. But we also hear a lot about
a lot of like wild cell phone usage in this administration. Ben,
you have any thoughts about that, like if there's exceptions
being made, or we in a time where maybe some
of these things for certain folks are not being here
too so tightly. We're hearing about what is it telegram
or use of signal to send chats using non Pentagon
(11:28):
software and platforms things like that. I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, haven't been in quite some time, right since before
there was a subway vending machine. It is a huge place.
It's a city all its own. Shout out to everybody
who's listening to this as you're practicing the slug program.
That'll interest you. Hannah, thank you so much for writing
in it is its own civilization. We do know that,
(11:56):
or at least in general experiences prior to this administration.
Of course, devices were monitored. Remember Hannah, the huge kerfuffle
about former President Barack Obama wanting to keep his BlackBerry
just as a dude, and they were like, this is
(12:17):
so crazy and secure. And now we have a Katari
airship that is not trusted enough to be Air Force
one on the way from Turkey. So going back to
your question there, Nol, I would say that the Pentagon
as a culture subsist in rarefied air that a lot
(12:41):
of the US public is not aware of, and that
culture has undergone some very serious changes. I mean, you
could say, yeah, you're super tracked, Yeah you got to
do your Chappelle lock box stuff, which is true. But
I would advance also there, Hannah, that the you, as
(13:02):
a modern American, or anybody as a modern American, we
are entering so many spaces where we are obsessively monitored,
right and just because just because your favorite private industry
may not be super transparent as much as the Pentagon.
It doesn't mean they're not tracking you. Also, it's kind
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of cool. I know the US has a war machine,
but walking around the Pentagon is super cool. Do it
if you get a chance and you're able and you
know you won't be arrested.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Yeah, no, I would definitely love to. Maybe maybe you
can let a little time pass first, a little more
to get to in the email. But I just want
to point out too, to your point Ben about the culture.
I mean, well, say we can't help, but remember what
a huge talking point and kerfuffle was made of Hillary
Clinton having off site email servers that was a massive
no no and then considered, you know, enough to torpedo
(13:58):
her candidacy, Whereas now it seems like it's just barely
a slap on the wrist when folks are using you know,
apps you can get on the app store, you know,
to do classified communications. So it's just I feel like
it has to be to some degree a change in
the culture where maybe these devices are not adhered to
quite as strongly with the folks that work there as
(14:19):
with the folks taking the tour. Just a little conjecture there.
But here's where it gets real weird in terms of
some observation that Hannah made also pertains to a change
in culture in terms of safeguarding our precious precious you know,
national data. Upon getting through security and starting depending on tour,
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the very first thing you see is a white pillar
with a giant AI generated Uncle Sam I want you
style poster of Pete hegseeth and the caption I want
you to use AI and a link to the military's
AI platform. These posters are plastered all over the building.
(15:04):
Because I did not have my phone, I was not
able to snap a photo. Thankfully, someone on the internet
to get a picture and posted it. You can check
that out if you google it. We know, and we've
talked about on this show, you know, ad nauseum guys,
the risk of using AI even just for like consumer
type stuff, let alone classified government type stuff. And as
(15:26):
we know, we've talked often about the kind of willy nilly,
unchecked rollout of this technology and the bubble of it
all and the just seeming blind charge forward to incorporate
this stuff into every aspect of human life now, including
very very very sensitive systems that could include things as
(15:47):
sensitive as weaponry, war decisions, strategy things like that. We
know it's not only horrible for the environment, but it
also has limited safeguards as far as user security goes.
I'm waiting for the news to drop. The chatchepe had
a data leak and exposed users full names, personal information,
and prompt no matter how dumb and embarrassing, because whatever
they say, you know, those are stored somewhere. We know
(16:09):
that it pulls random answers from the Internet, even if
they are not factually true, and states them to the
user as if they are hundred percent true. Guys, I
experienced this firsthand. I've been dabbling a little bit and
a few AI agents for some very specific purposes, and
something silly as like what movie was this song in?
It hallucinated that it said it was in the wrong movie.
My girlfriend was like, no, no, that's close, but it
(16:31):
wasn't quite that. And then we called it on this
mistake and it said, oh, my mistake, I must have
misremembered that. It was very So let's picture hallucinations about
not things as silly as movie trivia when it comes
to using it within the government and within defense going on.
We know that pulls random ants from the Internet, even
if it's not factually true. We know that this is
(16:54):
how misinformation gets spread like wildfire and creates an issue
or individuals no longer film motivated to do their own
research instead rely on a magical genie well put form
of knowledge to give them a fast and not factual response.
For a building an organization that prioritizes the security of
top secret classified information of the United States military, they
continue to promote and encourage the use of AI in
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every way possible. And then it does go on and
then I think we might save this and use some
of this in a future episode. But she offers some
ideas for episodes around this topic, and I think it's
it's high time that we maybe address the idea of
AI in the military as it, you know, continues to
evolve and be pushed so very hard. Yeah, that's I
(17:40):
think we'll stop there. Thanks for the email, handed guys,
any any thoughts about that propaganda sounding stuff is plastered
all over the Pentagon and we won't use many Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Bet perhaps for an episode though.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Okay, fair, fair, how about you, Matt, I'll tell you
for my money, it's real weird, real, real creepy, and
just you know it seems like a further escalation of this,
like who is this for? It seems like it's aiding
the folks that are invested in this technology monetarily and
not necessarily. You know, it's almost like a new military
industrial complex that's being created for the benefit of the
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folks making the money.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, we're gonna talk on a strange news episode very
soon next week as you're hearing this about sk Heinex,
and we're very interested in what's happening there in further
market manipulation and fun ways that this bubble can get bigger.
How big can we make it? And who's gonna pop it?
(18:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
I don't know, I pop on its own. I think
that's the way bubbles work in this context. Anyway, Well,
thanks so much, Hannah. This is a lot of great
food for thought, and we had so much more. To
Ben's point that we are in a reserve for a
future episode when we dig deeper into this. So we're
gonna take a quick break here a word from our sponsor,
and then we'll return with more messages from you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And we've returned, and guys, I was just gonna play
a random one because there are a few left in
our voicemail box here that I haven't that none of
us have listened to. And I was just gonna see
if we could get a special one. But I'm a
little scared. Let's play one that we know we've got already.
(19:24):
So let's go ahead and queue this up and let's
hear from Hidalgo.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Hey, guys, it's Doalgo. I don't know if you've seen
any news about the Vinton County children that were taken
to custody by the state in Ohio. The adults with
them were arrested and have been detained. The local authorities
that describe these children as feral and not living in
(19:50):
good conditions. Van County is an Appalachian county here in
Ohio is one of the poorest. Their school system has
been named several lawsuits against the state of Ohio and
it's unconstitutional school funding which has been going on for
forty some years now. But anyway, hey, then county is
something to look at. So I'll talk to you later, guys.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Some great dang bye, yes, wow, okay, Dolgo, thank you
so much. That sounds crazy. Let's go ahead and dig
into it. We've got something coming out of Columbus, Ohio.
NBC Channel four News this is July fourth, twenty twenty six,
will give you some information and then you can look
(20:34):
up whatever you wish to look up and find more.
This is a crazy, crazy thing. Authorities and NBC four
are asking a number of questions after the discovery of
children who allegedly were kept isolated in a twelve by
twelve room inside a Vinton County home in Hampden. That's
a village of about seven hundred people. Allegedly, sheriff deputies
(20:55):
showed up to the location to serve what they're calling
a parallel warrant, a warrant for one of the adults
that was living in the home that had nothing to
do with the children that were living there. And it
was actually not known by any authorities that there were
sixteen children living in a home in this particular home,
Nobody knew they were there. The Ohio Attorney General Andy
(21:17):
Wilson described the children as quote almost feral. They ranged
in age from eighteen months to eighteen years, and all
of them were living in a small room within this
house is a five bedroom house. There was one bathroom
in that house, and it was again it's tough. They're
(21:38):
describing it as a hoarder like situation where there is
stuff everywhere, and one of those stuffs is feces.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Jesus, I'm sorry, Matt. How did these children come to
be in this situation so many? Is there any relation
or is this a faster situation gone awry? Is what's
happening here?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
At this time on July fourth, not much was known,
but here's what authorities and journalists were able to uncover.
There were four adults who lived in that home. Gary
Siders who's seventy three years old, Christina Siders seventy seven,
Gary Siders the second, who was thirty six, and his wife,
Elizabeth Siders, thirty three. If you go down in the
(22:22):
article a little bit, you can learn that Gary Siders
the second and Elizabeth Siders were legally married in Mason County,
Virginia when they were teenagers. Gary Siders the second was
eighteen years old he had finished ninth grade, and Elizabeth
Ann Russell, who was fifteen years old and had finished
eighth grade. The oldest child was born two months after
(22:44):
that marriage. And here are the kids. So just think
about this in order of potentially one person having this
many children ready eighteen sixteen, fifteen, fourteen, thirteen, eleven, ten, eight, six, five, four, four, two, two,
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one and a half, one and a half, three credits.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Of homological Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Three sets of twins that we're living in the house altogether.
I don't know, guys, do you want more information on
this stuff or do you want to talk about this
a little bit?
Speaker 6 (23:23):
It's just well, I still don't understand how they how
what was the relation that we don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It would appear. Well again, as of this writing on
the fourth of July is now July fourteenth, Tuesday, July fourteenth,
twenty twenty six. When we're reading this and looking at this,
more information has come to light. This is just kind
of setting everybody up for what was known at the
moment that it's that it's happening, right.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Okay, okay, so you're the turn is coming.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Well, I suppose it is weird because now you're looking
at various court cases and then children who are being
taken into custody essentially by state.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Right, we're going to get be those individual stories and
that's when we'll get the bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, we'll move on to something from the Columbus Dispatch
from July twelfth, as we've got more information, but at
the time, in this moment, the adults who lived there again,
a family of twenty individuals in a one thousand, three
hundred and thirty six square feet house, which is very,
very small. There was a basement that was about a
(24:30):
little less than half the size. The adults are looking
at multiple charges with a potential maximum sentence on sixteen
counts that could get a maximum of one hundred and
ninety two years for each individual adult living in that
house because of the various charges, most of them relating
(24:53):
to those children. The schools, by the way, no school
was aware of any of those children.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
The base authorities that you imagined would be aware of
children in an area had no idea the kids existed.
And that's what we knew again when this story first broke.
And of course Hidalgo called us on the third and
this was written on the fourth, So that's what Hidalg.
That's the information Hidalgo's potentially come in to us with.
(25:19):
Right now, there have been several updates. The Columbus Dispatch
on July twelfth had a pretty big update. I'll just
read the title of the article here, and Ben, if
you wouldn't mind, just tell us some of the things
we've learned since then. Ohio approves one million dollars for
Vinton County to care for sixteen rescued kids, the same
kids we were talking about from this previous article.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. That Also, the Columbus Dispatch the
day after shout out to our journalist Sheridan Hendricks noted
that the Siders family you mentioned earlier there faced truancy
complaints for their kids. It does look like the local government,
(26:02):
at least factions of it, were attempting to address this,
but a lot of people were asleep at the wheel.
And again, as you said, and as you know, well Hidalgo,
that's a very small area to keep one person, much
less sixteen.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I linked just to Vinton County
like the official county lines on Google Maps, you guys
to look at it and where it's located, quite a
bit south of Columbus, kind of near the Wayne National
Forest actually right in there, and there's a state park
right near the area. Not much going on there. There's
(26:39):
about twelve thousand residents in the entire county. It's a
significant portion of Ohio. If you look at the map,
it's just wilderness.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah. It's also, by the way, Hidalgo Vining County, as
we understand, is the least populated county in all of
the Buckeye State. Wow, I mean a street name for
Ohio for something?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
What's a buck guy? Is that a type of animal
or something?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I've always I don't know, man, but there's a state
it's all about it.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, it's a nut, right, the buck guy is an and.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
It's poisonous too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Hey, anyone who lives in Indiana also write in and
explain hoosier?
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Yeah, what is a hoosier?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, we've been we've been floating by on that one,
like a low level spies for a while in Indiana.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
So, okay, it looks like a chestnut kind of. But yeah,
it is a poisonous tree nut, a popular peanut butter
and chocolate candy. Oh no, no, no, that's a different thing.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
There's a different but every tree nut is poisonous if
you have the right allergy. Uh, in a good point then,
I mean, unfortunately these kids have been Look, we know
that the term firal child is inherently problematic. Right, it's
been used to justify a lot of evil things over
(28:02):
over loow these many years, but in this case, it
sounds like guys, the biggest question is how this went
on for so long. It reminds me of a lot
of our modern folklore stories where everybody knew that something
was wrong with a house and a cul de sac
(28:24):
or so on. Right, everybody knew how the kids were
plugged in, right, but the authorities ignored it.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
So is this also the kind of stuff we hear
about with like really horrific foster cases falling through the
cracks and just you know where the system kind of
fails these kids. I mean, this is that's why it
brought that to mine. I know that's not what's going
on here, but you know it can happen.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, We've had many talks on this show about how
individual countries, states, counties put together a rubrict for how
a child should be raised, how that child should be educated,
how that child like, what it should know and be
able to do, and how it should be able to
function within society. And again, and that varies widely depending
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on the country, of the region where you are, the
system of culture that you're under.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
But we do know there are hard biological learning windows,
so that leads us to things like the infamous, horrifying,
heartbreaking case of a child known as Genie with a
g right ge n i e. A so called faral child.
Due to her abuse, she missed the opportunity to acquire
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spoken language. And once you miss that window, it is
very difficult to acquire that window.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Oh yes, there's so many psychological milestones that we've identified
the ad that are super important at specific times when
things should happen. Again, these are prescribed though, and it's
scientifically backed by looking at individual kids and then looking
at large groups of kids. We're doing the work trying
(30:04):
to figure this stuff out. But simultaneously, guys, we've got
this concept, especially in the United States, of the freedom
to do what thou wilst right. And it is curious
to me that we can have both things at the
same time. Where a family that decides, no, we're not
going to be a part of any of these systems,
(30:25):
We're not going to do any of the things that
you prescribe to us. We are going to live our
own way and do our own thing. But what if
that thing is potentially causing grievous harm?
Speaker 6 (30:38):
You at a certain point, exactly so.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
But there are lines here that are fascinating to me
just to figure out where those things are drawn. And
we've created laws that try and prescribe, Hey, this is
how it should go, and if you don't do it
that way, you're going to get a fine, or you're
going to get in trouble. You might even get jail time.
This is absolutely a situation of abuse and situation that
was untenable and shouldn't have been that way. If you
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go to the article, it's mentioned that therapeutic foster care
costs somewhere between one hundred and fifty to two hundred
and fifty dollars per day per child, and thankfully higher.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Than I would have thought. I agree, I think that's lower, Guys,
I don't know. I mean, it adds up over the
lifetime of a human as all. I'm saying, well, fair,
fair point.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well, depending on the age of the child. There's so
many things that would factor into all of that. Right,
But when you think about state foster care or you
know who is running the foster system, go back to
our episodes on foster care and the system itself and
how a lot of times terrible it is but there
are still, you know, forces within that system that are
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working for good and attempting to do right by by children. Thankfully,
the state of Ohio has donated that one million dollars, saying, hey,
these are emergency funds from the state. They're going to
this county that is one of the least populous in
our state, and they're going to help these specific sixteen
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kids get help and hopefully, you know, literally be fostered
into the person they're going to become later down the road,
despite whatever has happened to them. I don't know what
else to say, guys, besides this this thing, this thing,
the EBB and flow between freedom, true freedom to do
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what you want, and then understanding what happens when freedom
goes outside the bounds of these these boundaries we've created.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
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Speaker 3 (32:52):
And we have returned. We always like to have our
weekly listener mail segment with a little bit of candy
the end of the medicine, and we have something, guys
that I am on the fence on regarding whether or
not this is hilarious or whether it is damning. Now
(33:13):
two things can be true at once. So we are
going to go to k and then after that we're
going to go to none other than the legendary Tennessee
Pal Donnie Laboy himself for a little bit of lore.
So here we go, courtesy of you, k and thanks
also to Hidalgo and Hannah. Kate, you say, and I'm
(33:35):
not going to do the British accent, but I want
you to hear it in your head. Kate. You say, Hi, folks,
thought you might get a kick out of this story
just as much as the majority of the British public.
We currently have a far right Member of Parliament MP
called Nigel. He is always sucking up to Trump and
probably spends more time at Mara Lago that at Is
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or with his constituents. Recently, he's been all over the
press due to corruption scandals where he's been taking money
from crypto billionaires and not declaring it. And by the way,
k yes, I trust, but Verify looked into it. You're
on the money. It is true Nigel got his hand
(34:18):
in the crypto cookie jar and got caught. Anyway, kay,
you continue, you say, because we have strict rules about
declaring and publishing donations and all company accounts are public record.
He has been found out. So kay, you're getting so
interested with this, you say, to try and create a
(34:39):
Trump style distraction, Nigel is called a by election by
election and it is backfired as all the other major
parties have refused to stand a candidate. That is five
parties all boycotting the election. Now you say, K, one
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hilarious work of British politics is that so long as
you get ten people in the constituency to nominate you,
and you have five hundred pounds, anybody can stand in
an election. Anybody, And K you say, we have a
bunch of comedy candidates or comedy parties who often stand
(35:25):
for election to make a mockery of our democratic system,
including folks like the Monster Raving Looney Party and a
human fox. If if indeed it creates you say, kay,
some amazing photos. Because when elections are counted, all candidates
(35:48):
have to be present physically present at the ballot count.
They stand on stage as the results are announced. There
are many costumes and hilarious interviews. Use So ca you say,
back to this by election, as no serious party has
fielded a candidate genuinely, K says the best cross party
(36:11):
decision in my lifetime. The only main opposition to the
current and corrupt MP Nigel is a comedian called Count
Benface bi n facee Ben is a word for trash.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
I did hear about this guy?
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Kay?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, yeah, we'll share a picture and we're also going
to go to you Tennessee because it turns out that you,
like K and myself are deeply invested in the lore
of Count Benface.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I've been following the Count Benface saga. It's fascinating. Count
Penface has been running for elections since twenty nineteen. Before that,
it was a character that was similar called Lord Buckethead.
Yes Yes, and that is from the nineteen eighty four
Star Wars parody Hyperspace, so people in England would run
(37:10):
as Lord Buckethead for years. I believe that the guy
who plays Count Benface, whose name is John David Harvey,
originally ran as Lord Buckethead. The creator of Lord Buckethead
tried to make a claim against the creation of the character,
so he changed to Count Benface, which is funny because
it's still supposed to be an intercollactic guy. He's a
(37:32):
recyclon and his title is the leader of the Recyclons.
But he's run against Boris Johnson, I think multiple times.
And if I could just share some of his political positions.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah, let's hear his policies.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
He would like to nationalize model railways. He would like
to nationalize Adele. He would like to make Peers Morgan
zero emissions by twenty thirty.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Implying he's a win bag. I guess.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah. He would like to rename the London Bridge to
Phoebe waller Bridge.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense. That's something the Kingdom can
unite behind.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Is making Adele and nationalizing Adele is like declaring her
a national treasure. I think it doesn't matter. I'm thinking
way too different. Absurdity is the feature, not the bug.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
You know, he hasn't and thank you for that, Tennessee.
He hasn't done a ton of follow up or a
ton of crowd work on some of this in terms
of comedy. He's done a ton of crowd work in
terms of politics. Like you were saying, Dylan Kay is
on the same page with you Kay. You say quote
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he's an intergalactic bean who wears a bin on his head.
He is running on a promise to build affordable homes,
as we said, to nationalize adele and Kay, you can
tell we all have questions about how that works. And
also this will be a particular interest to some of
us to cap the price of an ice cream cone
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at ninety nine p P.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Yeah, I can remember that viral girl, little girl. Yes,
that must be referenced to that. Ben. Do you also
remember we talked about this some strange news maybe a
few years ago, a cavalcade of joke candidates in a
japan gubernatorial race, including like a robot and like an
AI figure, and like a masked internet comedian, and like
(39:27):
some wrestlers and a joker type character. I just it
just reminded me of that.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Oh yeah, absolutely, and you know more of it. We say,
there is no whistle like a graveyard whistle. There is
no humor like gallows humor. K you continue, We'd love
to hang out with you one day, Ky, you continue,
you say, quote the entire election has now become a farce,
and there is a tangible possibility that a man with
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a bin on his head could beat the far right
and be elected as an MP. Most of the country
is backing bidface donors are offering to fund his campaign.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Good stranger things have happened. Man. Yes, I'll take the
benface guy.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Over Lindsey Graham's sister over.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Certain individuals for sure. Yes, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Ey man, Okay, you say it's glorious. I want the
world to see this aspect of British politics. It honestly
makes me so proud of my country that we can
actively take the piss out of loathsome far right politicians
in this way. Imagine if you are Donald Trump's only
opposition been a man with a trash can on his head.
(40:40):
Here are some links below in which we had a
correspondence where we were following up on all of this.
I love it. It reminds me of Ted Lasso, one
of the best British shows, one of the best TV
shows ever made.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Actually, I saw a counting face on one of those
real news shows shows and the presenter made a fool
of himself. He's like, how can you be here and
want to be taken seriously if you don't take off
your bin And it's like, that's not how you what
a question of you count bin?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
No, it's not that's not how you know you get
You got to come to people with respect, and with that,
we do want to note that his slogan is make
your voice count.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
He did.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
He did run as an independent, but since twenty twenty
three it's been the count Beenface party, ten toes out.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Apparently Elmo is also a mainstay in British elections. Joke candidate,
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's kind of cool, but
Kay with a great affection and respect, we do have
to note that could be dangerous for American discourse. We
have a lot of political candidates who are jokes and
don't realize that they are jokes.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Ben, maybe this is a little more of a ridiculous
history thing, but I think we should do a joke
candidate episode. That's great, there's just enough. It's a perfect
little listical, bite size thing. Yeah, for sure, that's awesome.
I hear I've heard. I'd heard a bit of the
bin Face thing, but I did not realize how long
running it was. Thank you Dylan for the context there.
And this is indeed the candy at the end of
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the rainbow of sadness. That's something.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
And Dylan, the interview you're talking about, I believe is
from just a few days ago. As we record it
was July seventh. The presenter is a guy named Patti
O'Connell who asked Binface to remove his mask, and he said,
nobody wants to know what's underneath a recyclon's helmet. It
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is absolutely putrefying.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
It also reminds me of this band that's been absolutely
blowing up lately from Montreal called Angean de Patreen And
they pretend to be like Illuminati aliens and they wear
these crazy polka dot outfits and they speak in like gibberish,
and they do panel shows as well and interviews where
they stay completely in character, and they are becoming utterly massive,
(43:04):
like selling out stadiums and stuff like that. I think
it's fantastic. Love that love, a little mystery and a
little you know, tongue in the cheek we need.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Yeah, Yeah, sometimes you have to take the piss out
of the system, right to quote our British cousins. Also
a question for you guys, what do you think would
happen if we legitimately had on purpose satirical candidates running
for office like we do live in a country where
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dogs and cats win not one, but multiple elections in
small towns.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Well, quick question, Ben, is there something that separates the
ability to do this? I'm sure it was mentioned in
places like Japan and the UK, like why can't Why
is it because the barrier to entry is higher to
become a serious candidate that would actually be seen by
the public. Is it the nature of our political system
here and the fact that it costs so much money
(43:59):
to a viable candidate that there really isn't any room
for people just doing it on a lark, you know,
as a bit of a gag.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, that's a great question, and I think the response
we would have to have is, of course, the system
is super rigged here to maintain the two ostensibly different parties, right,
the centrist Democrats the increasingly far right Republican parties. They
unify all these factions. There hasn't been a really viable
(44:27):
third party candidate of any sort thanks to the federal
Election Commission until I mean since Ross Buo. Really that's
a deep cut. Also, Hey, guys, maybe now is the
time I think we were texting about this earlier off air.
The current administration of the United States just fired everybody
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who's in charge of election commissions.
Speaker 6 (44:51):
And their role would be not necessarily to oversee, but
to kind of act as a watchdog and make sure
that things are going above board, not to set policy
even right, but I mean, you know that sucks and
as a portentous thing, but at least we do still
have pole watchers and other independent organizations. But this was
a result ben directly of Supreme Court decision that essentially
(45:13):
allowed him to control quote unquote all aspects of the
executive branch. And then the question was whether this was
part of that or not. And I guess now it
is considered that, but it sort of isn't or it's
one of those things where he'll just do it, or
it'll be overturned because he overreached. Is it one of
those situations.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
It's kind of one of those things where we got
to see if the nine ring Braiths will stand tall
at some point. Let's not forget that this country just
got distressingly close to losing the concept of birthright citizenship.
And you know, this is something Noel Matt tennessee, I
(45:49):
know we've all been tracking and we do want to
still keep it positive and funny at the end, but
I'm good to call it midterm stuff not looking good
for the US, maybe we need a bend face.
Speaker 6 (46:03):
Did you know that there are three hundred plus political
parties in the UK? Yes, so, and yet I believe
there's only a very small number of viable parties compared
to that large member Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I mean also, technically you can declare yourself a political
party in the United States. It's just the United Kingdom
is more likely to recognize a bunch of guys who
get together at a pub and say, you know, we're
the Arsenal Party or Manu or whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
We're in this situation where modern democratic politics are a
farce of the thing that they should be. So having
farcical characters up there makes us feel a little better
because it's recognizing how insane our situation is. We've got
human beings. They get funneled up to these positions that
only represent corporate interests, and that's it, full stop. That
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we know this. We are voting publics throughout the world
who are electing human beings that represent money, profits and
nothing that actually helps us well.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
And as fun as this is, Matt, the UK really
only has two parties, Labor and Conservatives. Operationally, a handful
of other smaller seat winning parties but like that three
hundred number is all well and good, and all of
this stuff is a lot of fun and I think
a good satire. But they have just as much of
a divide left and right, you know, ideology over there,
(47:31):
and they've elected some pretty far right, gnarly leaders over
there too, so it didn't like they got it figured out.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Very much, several of whom are Russian supported, just like
the rise of the far right politics in Japan, which
is going to be interesting for us to see in
the coming year. And to that note about things being farcical,
that's the perfect word for it. Honestly, I want to
make sure we didn't lose this. We'll have it. We'll
(47:58):
talk about it in our weekly Strange New segment. But
we do have varcical members of American polity here, one
of which I've never spoken with directly, Darlene Graham. When
Senator Lindsey Graham expired under mysterious circumstances after leaving the
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European Theater, the governor straight up swore in a lady
named Darlene Graham entirely because she was the sister of
the late senator. That ain't how it works, that's style
meritocracies are supposed to work.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
That's a dynasty. That's what did she inherit the birthright
and that's bizarre, right, she has no background, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It's she had a philanthropyilanthropy runs an organization for advocation
for people who are site impaired or blind, and basically
she's there to fill in the parking spot until an
election occurs.
Speaker 6 (49:02):
But this was hold the line. I'm surely right right.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Just so, just so on the votes. And this also
without being too conspiratorial, folks, this also seems like to
the cynics a move by Pennsylvania Avenue to attempt to
normalize just dynasties over democracy.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Discs at all of a person maybe getting shot with
a sniper's bullet and or a device that was planted
on his body, and then the spouse of that person
taking over a massive international organization.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
Yeah, that may as well be extra political and its influence.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Right, we're talking about a kirk but not a captain.
Speaker 6 (49:45):
Yeah yeah, but like like that's the thing. I mean,
that organization, for all intents and purposes, with its connection
to the US government, may as well be a branch
of government in and of itself. Or at least it's
like the what would you call it then? The propaganda brand?
Oh yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
If you want to learn more, folks, do check out
You can finde any number of articles on this. Do
check out Darlene Graham Lindsey Graham's Sisters Worn in to
serve the remainder of Senate term by Kaya Hubbard over
at CBS News. Excellent write up. If you would like
to donate to the ben Face campaign, b I N
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Facee'll be more than happy to hear from you, just
like we were more than happy to hear from k
to hear from adalgo to hear from Hannah J. So
much stuff is happening. We have so much more to
get to. We want to hear your thoughts. We want
(50:44):
your take on the best food in the Pentagon food Court,
we want your take on rural Ohio. And hey, British friends,
tell us tell us your favorite American comedian. That's your
run for politics spoiler for all of you the boys
and I think it should be Jon Stewart.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
I think that's actually Samy Obeid.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Okay, all right, well, now we've got internal division man
carrot Top. He's more a sec deaf guy. He's Secretary
of Defense.
Speaker 6 (51:18):
Because he's jacked and he's got props.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
He's a good storyteller too. You are our favorite part
of the show. Fellow conspiracy realists, you are excellent storytellers.
When you reach out and touch faith with us, you
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noah.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They call me Ben, and you can too. We are
joined as always with our super producer Dylan the Tennessee
pal Fagan. If you are hearing our weekly listener mail
segment the evening it publishes, we could not be more
pleased to welcome you to July the sixteenth, twenty twenty
(00:51):
six and Tennessee. What better way to commemorate July the
sixteenth than to have a little Baga maybe route for them.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, this just came across my desk. It seems to
be a response to last week.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
M Hi, guys, it's your friend Billy Bega. You might
have heard an ad for a new Bagel World game
starring Negative William This makes me sad. He was made
without my input and it is not the way I want.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
To save Bagel World.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Please boycott Bagel World Evolutions and buy my new game,
Bega Buddies World Tour. We're racing Rudebiga carts and digging
up a great time. Oh my friends are there also.
Don't trust the government. Bye.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
That boying sound is the sound of Rude Bega's. When
I think of Rude Begas, I hear that boying sound.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, it's what it's what it sounds like when you
pull them from the ground. We checked with several agricultural experts.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
For sure, especially in eight bit form.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
But yeah, we're supposed to trust right the government.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
No one we trust in Rudebega's.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
It's funny you see it, guys. I was rewatching one
of the best shows on television. It's always sunny in Philadelphia.
They have an awesome escape room episode. I'm not going
to say it's perfect because art is subjective, but there's
a big deal of time they spend where they talk
about the keys to success as being a dude, and
(02:23):
Danny DeVito's character Frank Reynolds goes ten toes down saying
we all know he has a weird litany of guidance
to success in business, and he says, number one, the
head cow always grazes, and number two, the key to
business is to never trust another man. Ah, I got
(02:47):
to ask, like, do we trust each other.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Not for a second, No, absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Maybe just for fourteen years, but not for a second,
not for a second. Yeah, I plead the fifth, all right,
And while we're pleading the fifth, we are going to
explore some correspondence from your fellow conspiracy realist. We can't
wait to talk about British elections. There's some very serious
(03:15):
stuff happening in a town in Ohio. Before we do
any of that, we want to thank everybody whoever worked
at that subway in the Pentagon food court.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
We'll be right back and we have returned. Subway guy,
where do you stand on subway? Subway? Still on the game?
I know the very much, so I.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Know they're the most like they're the most widespread fast
food franchise.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
Okay, I guess we're talking here in terms of quality
over quantity, Like, is do y'all f with subway or
is it more like a Jimmy Johns or a Jersey
Mike's situation? If you're going to go the sub.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Route, Firehouse, baby, you areouzzos, Firehouse and quizzows.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
This is the way. I didn't know Quiznos was still
a thing. Okay, couple, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It's like there there are like two of them at
the San Francisco Zoo and they won't.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Reproduce, and one at the Las Vegas Airport.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Of course amazing. Of course, I remember that we've talked
about this.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
You can you can cable, you can gamble for the
price of the turkey sub oh man.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
So yeah, some friends of mine in the neighborhood here
owned the family owned a firehouse subs and I have
heard such good things about how the money actually works there.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
No that goes towards fully support Yeah, let's explain a
little bit. But just know where getting derailed on subs
here for a second. But I wasn't sure that that
was true. So you're saying, I know, I do know
that every single franchise has a unique mural that depicts
firemen and first responders. But I do believe a portion
of their proceeds go towards good causes. What do you got, Matt?
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah, and literally fire houses got.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
Okay, it's as simple as that. Well, I do respect
that it's.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
A franchise like any other. Right you own one and
to make money, to make a profit, to have a
business support yourself, your family or whatever.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
Else.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
But there is a really good side too, and it
doesn't happen every time with fast food groups.
Speaker 6 (05:16):
Well, it's good to hear that firehouse subs are some
of the corporate good guys relatively speaking. But we are
not talking about firehouse subs or firemen or fires really,
we are talking about an organization that doesn't need any
proceeds from any fast food establishments because they get all
the money from us, the taxpayer, and that would be
the Pentagon. And I had no idea that Pentagon has
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quite an airport level baller food court. And that is
just one of several things that we learned in this
email from Hannah. It's a little bit of a long line,
but it gives us some really great food for thought.
And we'll jump right in after I read it. So
here we go. My name is Hannah. I emailed you
all a few years ago after listening to the Burry
Seal epid so as my dad was the direct handler
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if you will, Okay, that's something to talk about another time.
Because more of my dad's involvement with the United States
government has been published online, I've become continuously invested in
governmental knowledge and the conspiracies around it. This email turned
out longer than I intended, but I promised that it
is worth the read. Back. In May, I took a
master's graduation trip to Washington, DC. I went on a
tour of every government building that I could get a
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reservation for the Capitol, White House, FBI Headquarters, the Pentagon,
and so many more. I had a fantastic experience that
also activated the tiny conspiracy theorist in my brain. Love
a tiny conspiracy theorist living in your brain. I wanted
to reach out and see if this would be a
topic you would be interested in discussing. First off, there
is so much more inside the Pentagon than I think
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the general public is aware. This is me agreeing. The
history behind the actual building is intriguing and it is huge.
We walked one point five miles on our tour in
an hour, and we only covered sixteen percent of the building.
Inside the Chocolate's here, a jewelry store, dry cleaners, a
post office, a florist, multiple banks, eight plus fast food restaurants,
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department stores, and literally anything that you would have to
run an errand for they had it in the building.
Here's an online map to see all of the different
food restaurants and stores that are open to shop in. Obviously,
this is an audio only episode, but I highly recommend
searching that up is it is findable. It is WHS,
(07:28):
dot Mill Slash Services, Dash and Dash Information Slash DoD
CC not the worst url in the world. And it
has a map like mall style with logos of all
of the restaurants, which included five guys, A Popeyes, a
Lebanese taverna if you're in some of that, a little bistro,
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one Oa, Jamba Juice or Jama as it's called now.
And this is with the updated logo. By the way, Moe's, McDonald's,
Taco Bell, some young brands. Subway. You know what's funny though, guys,
it actually says here there's two subways. One of them
is a subway vending machine. You're right, You've got a
sandwich from a vending machine. Maybe in Japan I might
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trust that process, but I'm not sure about here in
the States. We'll get back to that. And then some
kind of more like market basket, like a little grocery
store says it's open twenty four to seven. There's two
of them, one on each side. Same with Fresh Kitchen,
as there's also a fresh kitchen cart, sushi pot, belly sandwiches,
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et cetera. Fascinating, And then there's a whole nother map
showing a lot of the types of shops that you
can enjoy some you know on site shopping at.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Dude, I'm quite interested in smoke Debt barbecue.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
Exactly is that DC style barbecue that we keep hearing
so much about. But to continue this is wild stuff.
Another topic of interest was when our tour guide walked
us by the section of the Pentagon which struck on
nine to eleven. He informed us, and y'all may know this,
this is news to me that part of that part
of the building was under construction at the time the
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plane hit, and most offices were vacant when the attack happened,
which prevented additional fatalities on that day. That's another conspiracy
for another day. If we want to talk about, you know,
time and place, whether that was planned or not. I
don't think it was, but I think that's what our
listeners get in a here for security purposes. Here's where
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it gets really interesting. They are very strict on technology usage.
When you set foot onto Pentagon property. It's like I
want to see. At Dave Chappelle show, they do not
allow photography of any kind, even of the outside of
the building. Once you step inside, all technology has to
be completely out of sight. If you took your phone
out of your pocket at all while going through security,
you would be immediately escorted from the building. There is
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a small gift shop where you're allowed to use your
phone and take photos before the start of the tour
for the same security reasons. Before the start or the tour,
every guest had to turn off and lock any device
with a microphone or that could connect to Bluetooth phones,
smart watches, AirPods, headphones, et cetera. And we're talking about
not lock like lock your phone. We're talking about lock
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in a lock box, a physical lock box. That's why
I made the Dave Chappelle reference. You held onto your
locker key throughout the tour, and then you got your
devices back at the end. Throughout the tour, I noticed
that the same small device lockers were outside of every
single office in the Pentagon. Our tour guide informed us
that any individuals entering an office must turn off and
lock their personal devices in the locker. We've certainly heard
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this before, just even in the news outside the Upbell.
We also know a lot of exceptions are made in
the current administration. Weirdly, any device that could potentially be
hacked for someone to listen, to, read, or access was
not allowed to prevent the possibility of spies accessing those devices.
You can read more about it in the Pentagon Device Policy,
which you can also find online just google Pentagon Device Policy.
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It's fascinating pdf.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
We are saying that the human beings that go to
the Pentagon to today and work and they also have
to do this process.
Speaker 6 (11:06):
They're supposed to. But we also hear a lot about
a lot of like wild cell phone usage in this administration. Ben,
you have any thoughts about that, like if there's exceptions
being made, or we in a time where maybe some
of these things for certain folks are not being here
too so tightly. We're hearing about what is it telegram
or use of signal to send chats using non Pentagon
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software and platforms things like that. I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah, haven't been in quite some time, right since before
there was a subway vending machine. It is a huge place.
It's a city all its own. Shout out to everybody
who's listening to this as you're practicing the slug program.
That'll interest you. Hannah, thank you so much for writing
in it is its own civilization. We do know that,
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or at least in general experiences prior to this administration.
Of course, devices were monitored. Remember Hannah, the huge kerfuffle
about former President Barack Obama wanting to keep his BlackBerry
just as a dude, and they were like, this is
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so crazy and secure. And now we have a Katari
airship that is not trusted enough to be Air Force
one on the way from Turkey. So going back to
your question there, Nol, I would say that the Pentagon
as a culture subsist in rarefied air that a lot
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of the US public is not aware of, and that
culture has undergone some very serious changes. I mean, you
could say, yeah, you're super tracked, Yeah you got to
do your Chappelle lock box stuff, which is true. But
I would advance also there, Hannah, that the you, as
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a modern American, or anybody as a modern American, we
are entering so many spaces where we are obsessively monitored,
right and just because just because your favorite private industry
may not be super transparent as much as the Pentagon.
It doesn't mean they're not tracking you. Also, it's kind
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of cool. I know the US has a war machine,
but walking around the Pentagon is super cool. Do it
if you get a chance and you're able and you
know you won't be arrested.
Speaker 6 (13:36):
Yeah, no, I would definitely love to. Maybe maybe you
can let a little time pass first, a little more
to get to in the email. But I just want
to point out too, to your point Ben about the culture.
I mean, well, say we can't help, but remember what
a huge talking point and kerfuffle was made of Hillary
Clinton having off site email servers that was a massive
no no and then considered, you know, enough to torpedo
(13:58):
her candidacy, Whereas now it seems like it's just barely
a slap on the wrist when folks are using you know,
apps you can get on the app store, you know,
to do classified communications. So it's just I feel like
it has to be to some degree a change in
the culture where maybe these devices are not adhered to
quite as strongly with the folks that work there as
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with the folks taking the tour. Just a little conjecture there.
But here's where it gets real weird in terms of
some observation that Hannah made also pertains to a change
in culture in terms of safeguarding our precious precious you know,
national data. Upon getting through security and starting depending on tour,
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the very first thing you see is a white pillar
with a giant AI generated Uncle Sam I want you
style poster of Pete hegseeth and the caption I want
you to use AI and a link to the military's
AI platform. These posters are plastered all over the building.
(15:04):
Because I did not have my phone, I was not
able to snap a photo. Thankfully, someone on the internet
to get a picture and posted it. You can check
that out if you google it. We know, and we've
talked about on this show, you know, ad nauseum guys,
the risk of using AI even just for like consumer
type stuff, let alone classified government type stuff. And as
(15:26):
we know, we've talked often about the kind of willy nilly,
unchecked rollout of this technology and the bubble of it
all and the just seeming blind charge forward to incorporate
this stuff into every aspect of human life now, including
very very very sensitive systems that could include things as
(15:47):
sensitive as weaponry, war decisions, strategy things like that. We
know it's not only horrible for the environment, but it
also has limited safeguards as far as user security goes.
I'm waiting for the news to drop. The chatchepe had
a data leak and exposed users full names, personal information,
and prompt no matter how dumb and embarrassing, because whatever
they say, you know, those are stored somewhere. We know
(16:09):
that it pulls random answers from the Internet, even if
they are not factually true, and states them to the
user as if they are hundred percent true. Guys, I
experienced this firsthand. I've been dabbling a little bit and
a few AI agents for some very specific purposes, and
something silly as like what movie was this song in?
It hallucinated that it said it was in the wrong movie.
My girlfriend was like, no, no, that's close, but it
(16:31):
wasn't quite that. And then we called it on this
mistake and it said, oh, my mistake, I must have
misremembered that. It was very So let's picture hallucinations about
not things as silly as movie trivia when it comes
to using it within the government and within defense going on.
We know that pulls random ants from the Internet, even
if it's not factually true. We know that this is
(16:54):
how misinformation gets spread like wildfire and creates an issue
or individuals no longer film motivated to do their own
research instead rely on a magical genie well put form
of knowledge to give them a fast and not factual response.
For a building an organization that prioritizes the security of
top secret classified information of the United States military, they
continue to promote and encourage the use of AI in
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every way possible. And then it does go on and
then I think we might save this and use some
of this in a future episode. But she offers some
ideas for episodes around this topic, and I think it's
it's high time that we maybe address the idea of
AI in the military as it, you know, continues to
evolve and be pushed so very hard. Yeah, that's I
(17:40):
think we'll stop there. Thanks for the email, handed guys,
any any thoughts about that propaganda sounding stuff is plastered
all over the Pentagon and we won't use many Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Bet perhaps for an episode though.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Okay, fair, fair, how about you, Matt, I'll tell you
for my money, it's real weird, real, real creepy, and
just you know it seems like a further escalation of this,
like who is this for? It seems like it's aiding
the folks that are invested in this technology monetarily and
not necessarily. You know, it's almost like a new military
industrial complex that's being created for the benefit of the
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folks making the money.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Yeah, we're gonna talk on a strange news episode very
soon next week as you're hearing this about sk Heinex,
and we're very interested in what's happening there in further
market manipulation and fun ways that this bubble can get bigger.
How big can we make it? And who's gonna pop it?
(18:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:39):
I don't know, I pop on its own. I think
that's the way bubbles work in this context. Anyway, Well,
thanks so much, Hannah. This is a lot of great
food for thought, and we had so much more. To
Ben's point that we are in a reserve for a
future episode when we dig deeper into this. So we're
gonna take a quick break here a word from our sponsor,
and then we'll return with more messages from you.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
And we've returned, and guys, I was just gonna play
a random one because there are a few left in
our voicemail box here that I haven't that none of
us have listened to. And I was just gonna see
if we could get a special one. But I'm a
little scared. Let's play one that we know we've got already.
(19:24):
So let's go ahead and queue this up and let's
hear from Hidalgo.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
Hey, guys, it's Doalgo. I don't know if you've seen
any news about the Vinton County children that were taken
to custody by the state in Ohio. The adults with
them were arrested and have been detained. The local authorities
that describe these children as feral and not living in
(19:50):
good conditions. Van County is an Appalachian county here in
Ohio is one of the poorest. Their school system has
been named several lawsuits against the state of Ohio and
it's unconstitutional school funding which has been going on for
forty some years now. But anyway, hey, then county is
something to look at. So I'll talk to you later, guys.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Some great dang bye, yes, wow, okay, Dolgo, thank you
so much. That sounds crazy. Let's go ahead and dig
into it. We've got something coming out of Columbus, Ohio.
NBC Channel four News this is July fourth, twenty twenty six,
will give you some information and then you can look
(20:34):
up whatever you wish to look up and find more.
This is a crazy, crazy thing. Authorities and NBC four
are asking a number of questions after the discovery of
children who allegedly were kept isolated in a twelve by
twelve room inside a Vinton County home in Hampden. That's
a village of about seven hundred people. Allegedly, sheriff deputies
(20:55):
showed up to the location to serve what they're calling
a parallel warrant, a warrant for one of the adults
that was living in the home that had nothing to
do with the children that were living there. And it
was actually not known by any authorities that there were
sixteen children living in a home in this particular home,
Nobody knew they were there. The Ohio Attorney General Andy
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Wilson described the children as quote almost feral. They ranged
in age from eighteen months to eighteen years, and all
of them were living in a small room within this
house is a five bedroom house. There was one bathroom
in that house, and it was again it's tough. They're
(21:38):
describing it as a hoarder like situation where there is
stuff everywhere, and one of those stuffs is feces.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Jesus, I'm sorry, Matt. How did these children come to
be in this situation so many? Is there any relation
or is this a faster situation gone awry? Is what's
happening here?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
At this time on July fourth, not much was known,
but here's what authorities and journalists were able to uncover.
There were four adults who lived in that home. Gary
Siders who's seventy three years old, Christina Siders seventy seven,
Gary Siders the second, who was thirty six, and his wife,
Elizabeth Siders, thirty three. If you go down in the
(22:22):
article a little bit, you can learn that Gary Siders
the second and Elizabeth Siders were legally married in Mason County,
Virginia when they were teenagers. Gary Siders the second was
eighteen years old he had finished ninth grade, and Elizabeth
Ann Russell, who was fifteen years old and had finished
eighth grade. The oldest child was born two months after
(22:44):
that marriage. And here are the kids. So just think
about this in order of potentially one person having this
many children ready eighteen sixteen, fifteen, fourteen, thirteen, eleven, ten, eight, six, five, four, four, two, two,
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one and a half, one and a half, three credits.
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Of homological Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Three sets of twins that we're living in the house altogether.
I don't know, guys, do you want more information on
this stuff or do you want to talk about this
a little bit?
Speaker 6 (23:23):
It's just well, I still don't understand how they how
what was the relation that we don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
It would appear. Well again, as of this writing on
the fourth of July is now July fourteenth, Tuesday, July fourteenth,
twenty twenty six. When we're reading this and looking at this,
more information has come to light. This is just kind
of setting everybody up for what was known at the
moment that it's that it's happening, right.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Okay, okay, so you're the turn is coming.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Well, I suppose it is weird because now you're looking
at various court cases and then children who are being
taken into custody essentially by state.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Right, we're going to get be those individual stories and
that's when we'll get the bigger picture.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, we'll move on to something from the Columbus Dispatch
from July twelfth, as we've got more information, but at
the time, in this moment, the adults who lived there again,
a family of twenty individuals in a one thousand, three
hundred and thirty six square feet house, which is very,
very small. There was a basement that was about a
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little less than half the size. The adults are looking
at multiple charges with a potential maximum sentence on sixteen
counts that could get a maximum of one hundred and
ninety two years for each individual adult living in that
house because of the various charges, most of them relating
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to those children. The schools, by the way, no school
was aware of any of those children.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
The base authorities that you imagined would be aware of
children in an area had no idea the kids existed.
And that's what we knew again when this story first broke.
And of course Hidalgo called us on the third and
this was written on the fourth, So that's what Hidalg.
That's the information Hidalgo's potentially come in to us with.
(25:19):
Right now, there have been several updates. The Columbus Dispatch
on July twelfth had a pretty big update. I'll just
read the title of the article here, and Ben, if
you wouldn't mind, just tell us some of the things
we've learned since then. Ohio approves one million dollars for
Vinton County to care for sixteen rescued kids, the same
kids we were talking about from this previous article.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. That Also, the Columbus Dispatch the
day after shout out to our journalist Sheridan Hendricks noted
that the Siders family you mentioned earlier there faced truancy
complaints for their kids. It does look like the local government,
(26:02):
at least factions of it, were attempting to address this,
but a lot of people were asleep at the wheel.
And again, as you said, and as you know, well Hidalgo,
that's a very small area to keep one person, much
less sixteen.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. I linked just to Vinton County
like the official county lines on Google Maps, you guys
to look at it and where it's located, quite a
bit south of Columbus, kind of near the Wayne National
Forest actually right in there, and there's a state park
right near the area. Not much going on there. There's
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about twelve thousand residents in the entire county. It's a
significant portion of Ohio. If you look at the map,
it's just wilderness.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah. It's also, by the way, Hidalgo Vining County, as
we understand, is the least populated county in all of
the Buckeye State. Wow, I mean a street name for
Ohio for something?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
What's a buck guy? Is that a type of animal
or something?
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I've always I don't know, man, but there's a state
it's all about it.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
No, it's a nut, right, the buck guy is an and.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
It's poisonous too. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Hey, anyone who lives in Indiana also write in and
explain hoosier?
Speaker 6 (27:19):
Yeah, what is a hoosier?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Yeah, we've been we've been floating by on that one,
like a low level spies for a while in Indiana.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
So, okay, it looks like a chestnut kind of. But yeah,
it is a poisonous tree nut, a popular peanut butter
and chocolate candy. Oh no, no, no, that's a different thing.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
There's a different but every tree nut is poisonous if
you have the right allergy. Uh, in a good point then,
I mean, unfortunately these kids have been Look, we know
that the term firal child is inherently problematic. Right, it's
been used to justify a lot of evil things over
(28:02):
over loow these many years, but in this case, it
sounds like guys, the biggest question is how this went
on for so long. It reminds me of a lot
of our modern folklore stories where everybody knew that something
was wrong with a house and a cul de sac
(28:24):
or so on. Right, everybody knew how the kids were
plugged in, right, but the authorities ignored it.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
So is this also the kind of stuff we hear
about with like really horrific foster cases falling through the
cracks and just you know where the system kind of
fails these kids. I mean, this is that's why it
brought that to mine. I know that's not what's going
on here, but you know it can happen.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, We've had many talks on this show about how
individual countries, states, counties put together a rubrict for how
a child should be raised, how that child should be educated,
how that child like, what it should know and be
able to do, and how it should be able to
function within society. And again, and that varies widely depending
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on the country, of the region where you are, the
system of culture that you're under.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
But we do know there are hard biological learning windows,
so that leads us to things like the infamous, horrifying,
heartbreaking case of a child known as Genie with a
g right ge n i e. A so called faral child.
Due to her abuse, she missed the opportunity to acquire
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spoken language. And once you miss that window, it is
very difficult to acquire that window.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Oh yes, there's so many psychological milestones that we've identified
the ad that are super important at specific times when
things should happen. Again, these are prescribed though, and it's
scientifically backed by looking at individual kids and then looking
at large groups of kids. We're doing the work trying
(30:04):
to figure this stuff out. But simultaneously, guys, we've got
this concept, especially in the United States, of the freedom
to do what thou wilst right. And it is curious
to me that we can have both things at the
same time. Where a family that decides, no, we're not
going to be a part of any of these systems,
(30:25):
We're not going to do any of the things that
you prescribe to us. We are going to live our
own way and do our own thing. But what if
that thing is potentially causing grievous harm?
Speaker 6 (30:38):
You at a certain point, exactly so.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
But there are lines here that are fascinating to me
just to figure out where those things are drawn. And
we've created laws that try and prescribe, Hey, this is
how it should go, and if you don't do it
that way, you're going to get a fine, or you're
going to get in trouble. You might even get jail time.
This is absolutely a situation of abuse and situation that
was untenable and shouldn't have been that way. If you
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go to the article, it's mentioned that therapeutic foster care
costs somewhere between one hundred and fifty to two hundred
and fifty dollars per day per child, and thankfully higher.
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Than I would have thought. I agree, I think that's lower, Guys,
I don't know. I mean, it adds up over the
lifetime of a human as all. I'm saying, well, fair,
fair point.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well, depending on the age of the child. There's so
many things that would factor into all of that. Right,
But when you think about state foster care or you
know who is running the foster system, go back to
our episodes on foster care and the system itself and
how a lot of times terrible it is but there
are still, you know, forces within that system that are
(31:47):
working for good and attempting to do right by by children. Thankfully,
the state of Ohio has donated that one million dollars, saying, hey,
these are emergency funds from the state. They're going to
this county that is one of the least populous in
our state, and they're going to help these specific sixteen
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kids get help and hopefully, you know, literally be fostered
into the person they're going to become later down the road,
despite whatever has happened to them. I don't know what
else to say, guys, besides this this thing, this thing,
the EBB and flow between freedom, true freedom to do
(32:29):
what you want, and then understanding what happens when freedom
goes outside the bounds of these these boundaries we've created.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Thank you, adallgo for sending us the message. We'll be
back after a word from our sponsor.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
And we have returned. We always like to have our
weekly listener mail segment with a little bit of candy
the end of the medicine, and we have something, guys
that I am on the fence on regarding whether or
not this is hilarious or whether it is damning. Now
(33:13):
two things can be true at once. So we are
going to go to k and then after that we're
going to go to none other than the legendary Tennessee
Pal Donnie Laboy himself for a little bit of lore.
So here we go, courtesy of you, k and thanks
also to Hidalgo and Hannah. Kate, you say, and I'm
(33:35):
not going to do the British accent, but I want
you to hear it in your head. Kate. You say, Hi, folks,
thought you might get a kick out of this story
just as much as the majority of the British public.
We currently have a far right Member of Parliament MP
called Nigel. He is always sucking up to Trump and
probably spends more time at Mara Lago that at Is
(33:58):
or with his constituents. Recently, he's been all over the
press due to corruption scandals where he's been taking money
from crypto billionaires and not declaring it. And by the way,
k yes, I trust, but Verify looked into it. You're
on the money. It is true Nigel got his hand
(34:18):
in the crypto cookie jar and got caught. Anyway, kay,
you continue, you say, because we have strict rules about
declaring and publishing donations and all company accounts are public record.
He has been found out. So kay, you're getting so
interested with this, you say, to try and create a
(34:39):
Trump style distraction, Nigel is called a by election by
election and it is backfired as all the other major
parties have refused to stand a candidate. That is five
parties all boycotting the election. Now you say, K, one
(35:00):
hilarious work of British politics is that so long as
you get ten people in the constituency to nominate you,
and you have five hundred pounds, anybody can stand in
an election. Anybody, And K you say, we have a
bunch of comedy candidates or comedy parties who often stand
(35:25):
for election to make a mockery of our democratic system,
including folks like the Monster Raving Looney Party and a
human fox. If if indeed it creates you say, kay,
some amazing photos. Because when elections are counted, all candidates
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have to be present physically present at the ballot count.
They stand on stage as the results are announced. There
are many costumes and hilarious interviews. Use So ca you say,
back to this by election, as no serious party has
fielded a candidate genuinely, K says the best cross party
(36:11):
decision in my lifetime. The only main opposition to the
current and corrupt MP Nigel is a comedian called Count
Benface bi n facee Ben is a word for trash.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
I did hear about this guy?
Speaker 7 (36:33):
Kay?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Yeah, yeah, we'll share a picture and we're also going
to go to you Tennessee because it turns out that you,
like K and myself are deeply invested in the lore
of Count Benface.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
I've been following the Count Benface saga. It's fascinating. Count
Penface has been running for elections since twenty nineteen. Before that,
it was a character that was similar called Lord Buckethead.
Yes Yes, and that is from the nineteen eighty four
Star Wars parody Hyperspace, so people in England would run
(37:10):
as Lord Buckethead for years. I believe that the guy
who plays Count Benface, whose name is John David Harvey,
originally ran as Lord Buckethead. The creator of Lord Buckethead
tried to make a claim against the creation of the character,
so he changed to Count Benface, which is funny because
it's still supposed to be an intercollactic guy. He's a
(37:32):
recyclon and his title is the leader of the Recyclons.
But he's run against Boris Johnson, I think multiple times.
And if I could just share some of his political positions.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Yeah, let's hear his policies.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
He would like to nationalize model railways. He would like
to nationalize Adele. He would like to make Peers Morgan
zero emissions by twenty thirty.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Implying he's a win bag. I guess.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Yeah. He would like to rename the London Bridge to
Phoebe waller Bridge.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Okay, yeah, that makes sense. That's something the Kingdom can
unite behind.
Speaker 6 (38:07):
Is making Adele and nationalizing Adele is like declaring her
a national treasure. I think it doesn't matter. I'm thinking
way too different. Absurdity is the feature, not the bug.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
You know, he hasn't and thank you for that, Tennessee.
He hasn't done a ton of follow up or a
ton of crowd work on some of this in terms
of comedy. He's done a ton of crowd work in
terms of politics. Like you were saying, Dylan Kay is
on the same page with you Kay. You say quote
(38:39):
he's an intergalactic bean who wears a bin on his head.
He is running on a promise to build affordable homes,
as we said, to nationalize adele and Kay, you can
tell we all have questions about how that works. And
also this will be a particular interest to some of
us to cap the price of an ice cream cone
(39:01):
at ninety nine p P.
Speaker 6 (39:03):
Yeah, I can remember that viral girl, little girl. Yes,
that must be referenced to that. Ben. Do you also
remember we talked about this some strange news maybe a
few years ago, a cavalcade of joke candidates in a
japan gubernatorial race, including like a robot and like an
AI figure, and like a masked internet comedian, and like
(39:27):
some wrestlers and a joker type character. I just it
just reminded me of that.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Oh yeah, absolutely, and you know more of it. We say,
there is no whistle like a graveyard whistle. There is
no humor like gallows humor. K you continue, We'd love
to hang out with you one day, Ky, you continue,
you say, quote the entire election has now become a farce,
and there is a tangible possibility that a man with
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a bin on his head could beat the far right
and be elected as an MP. Most of the country
is backing bidface donors are offering to fund his campaign.
Speaker 6 (40:07):
Good stranger things have happened. Man. Yes, I'll take the
benface guy.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Over Lindsey Graham's sister over.
Speaker 6 (40:14):
Certain individuals for sure. Yes, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Ey man, Okay, you say it's glorious. I want the
world to see this aspect of British politics. It honestly
makes me so proud of my country that we can
actively take the piss out of loathsome far right politicians
in this way. Imagine if you are Donald Trump's only
opposition been a man with a trash can on his head.
(40:40):
Here are some links below in which we had a
correspondence where we were following up on all of this.
I love it. It reminds me of Ted Lasso, one
of the best British shows, one of the best TV
shows ever made.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Actually, I saw a counting face on one of those
real news shows shows and the presenter made a fool
of himself. He's like, how can you be here and
want to be taken seriously if you don't take off
your bin And it's like, that's not how you what
a question of you count bin?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
No, it's not that's not how you know you get
You got to come to people with respect, and with that,
we do want to note that his slogan is make
your voice count.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
He did.
Speaker 3 (41:24):
He did run as an independent, but since twenty twenty
three it's been the count Beenface party, ten toes out.
Speaker 6 (41:32):
Apparently Elmo is also a mainstay in British elections. Joke candidate,
I didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's kind of cool, but
Kay with a great affection and respect, we do have
to note that could be dangerous for American discourse. We
have a lot of political candidates who are jokes and
don't realize that they are jokes.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
Ben, maybe this is a little more of a ridiculous
history thing, but I think we should do a joke
candidate episode. That's great, there's just enough. It's a perfect
little listical, bite size thing. Yeah, for sure, that's awesome.
I hear I've heard. I'd heard a bit of the
bin Face thing, but I did not realize how long
running it was. Thank you Dylan for the context there.
And this is indeed the candy at the end of
(42:16):
the rainbow of sadness. That's something.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
And Dylan, the interview you're talking about, I believe is
from just a few days ago. As we record it
was July seventh. The presenter is a guy named Patti
O'Connell who asked Binface to remove his mask, and he said,
nobody wants to know what's underneath a recyclon's helmet. It
(42:40):
is absolutely putrefying.
Speaker 6 (42:43):
It also reminds me of this band that's been absolutely
blowing up lately from Montreal called Angean de Patreen And
they pretend to be like Illuminati aliens and they wear
these crazy polka dot outfits and they speak in like gibberish,
and they do panel shows as well and interviews where
they stay completely in character, and they are becoming utterly massive,
(43:04):
like selling out stadiums and stuff like that. I think
it's fantastic. Love that love, a little mystery and a
little you know, tongue in the cheek we need.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Yeah, Yeah, sometimes you have to take the piss out
of the system, right to quote our British cousins. Also
a question for you guys, what do you think would
happen if we legitimately had on purpose satirical candidates running
for office like we do live in a country where
(43:34):
dogs and cats win not one, but multiple elections in
small towns.
Speaker 6 (43:39):
Well, quick question, Ben, is there something that separates the
ability to do this? I'm sure it was mentioned in
places like Japan and the UK, like why can't Why
is it because the barrier to entry is higher to
become a serious candidate that would actually be seen by
the public. Is it the nature of our political system
here and the fact that it costs so much money
(43:59):
to a viable candidate that there really isn't any room
for people just doing it on a lark, you know,
as a bit of a gag.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
Yeah, that's a great question, and I think the response
we would have to have is, of course, the system
is super rigged here to maintain the two ostensibly different parties, right,
the centrist Democrats the increasingly far right Republican parties. They
unify all these factions. There hasn't been a really viable
(44:27):
third party candidate of any sort thanks to the federal
Election Commission until I mean since Ross Buo. Really that's
a deep cut. Also, Hey, guys, maybe now is the
time I think we were texting about this earlier off air.
The current administration of the United States just fired everybody
(44:49):
who's in charge of election commissions.
Speaker 6 (44:51):
And their role would be not necessarily to oversee, but
to kind of act as a watchdog and make sure
that things are going above board, not to set policy
even right, but I mean, you know that sucks and
as a portentous thing, but at least we do still
have pole watchers and other independent organizations. But this was
a result ben directly of Supreme Court decision that essentially
(45:13):
allowed him to control quote unquote all aspects of the
executive branch. And then the question was whether this was
part of that or not. And I guess now it
is considered that, but it sort of isn't or it's
one of those things where he'll just do it, or
it'll be overturned because he overreached. Is it one of
those situations.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
It's kind of one of those things where we got
to see if the nine ring Braiths will stand tall
at some point. Let's not forget that this country just
got distressingly close to losing the concept of birthright citizenship.
And you know, this is something Noel Matt tennessee, I
(45:49):
know we've all been tracking and we do want to
still keep it positive and funny at the end, but
I'm good to call it midterm stuff not looking good
for the US, maybe we need a bend face.
Speaker 6 (46:03):
Did you know that there are three hundred plus political
parties in the UK? Yes, so, and yet I believe
there's only a very small number of viable parties compared
to that large member Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
I mean also, technically you can declare yourself a political
party in the United States. It's just the United Kingdom
is more likely to recognize a bunch of guys who
get together at a pub and say, you know, we're
the Arsenal Party or Manu or whatever.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
We're in this situation where modern democratic politics are a
farce of the thing that they should be. So having
farcical characters up there makes us feel a little better
because it's recognizing how insane our situation is. We've got
human beings. They get funneled up to these positions that
only represent corporate interests, and that's it, full stop. That
(46:57):
we know this. We are voting publics throughout the world
who are electing human beings that represent money, profits and
nothing that actually helps us well.
Speaker 6 (47:09):
And as fun as this is, Matt, the UK really
only has two parties, Labor and Conservatives. Operationally, a handful
of other smaller seat winning parties but like that three
hundred number is all well and good, and all of
this stuff is a lot of fun and I think
a good satire. But they have just as much of
a divide left and right, you know, ideology over there,
(47:31):
and they've elected some pretty far right, gnarly leaders over
there too, so it didn't like they got it figured out.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
Very much, several of whom are Russian supported, just like
the rise of the far right politics in Japan, which
is going to be interesting for us to see in
the coming year. And to that note about things being farcical,
that's the perfect word for it. Honestly, I want to
make sure we didn't lose this. We'll have it. We'll
(47:58):
talk about it in our weekly Strange New segment. But
we do have varcical members of American polity here, one
of which I've never spoken with directly, Darlene Graham. When
Senator Lindsey Graham expired under mysterious circumstances after leaving the
(48:18):
European Theater, the governor straight up swore in a lady
named Darlene Graham entirely because she was the sister of
the late senator. That ain't how it works, that's style
meritocracies are supposed to work.
Speaker 6 (48:35):
That's a dynasty. That's what did she inherit the birthright
and that's bizarre, right, she has no background, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
It's she had a philanthropyilanthropy runs an organization for advocation
for people who are site impaired or blind, and basically
she's there to fill in the parking spot until an
election occurs.
Speaker 6 (49:02):
But this was hold the line. I'm surely right right.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Just so, just so on the votes. And this also
without being too conspiratorial, folks, this also seems like to
the cynics a move by Pennsylvania Avenue to attempt to
normalize just dynasties over democracy.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Discs at all of a person maybe getting shot with
a sniper's bullet and or a device that was planted
on his body, and then the spouse of that person
taking over a massive international organization.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
Yeah, that may as well be extra political and its influence.
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Right, we're talking about a kirk but not a captain.
Speaker 6 (49:45):
Yeah yeah, but like like that's the thing. I mean,
that organization, for all intents and purposes, with its connection
to the US government, may as well be a branch
of government in and of itself. Or at least it's
like the what would you call it then? The propaganda brand?
Oh yes, yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:02):
If you want to learn more, folks, do check out
You can finde any number of articles on this. Do
check out Darlene Graham Lindsey Graham's Sisters Worn in to
serve the remainder of Senate term by Kaya Hubbard over
at CBS News. Excellent write up. If you would like
to donate to the ben Face campaign, b I N
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Facee'll be more than happy to hear from you, just
like we were more than happy to hear from k
to hear from adalgo to hear from Hannah J. So
much stuff is happening. We have so much more to
get to. We want to hear your thoughts. We want
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your take on the best food in the Pentagon food Court,
we want your take on rural Ohio. And hey, British friends,
tell us tell us your favorite American comedian. That's your
run for politics spoiler for all of you the boys
and I think it should be Jon Stewart.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
I think that's actually Samy Obeid.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Okay, all right, well, now we've got internal division man
carrot Top. He's more a sec deaf guy. He's Secretary
of Defense.
Speaker 6 (51:18):
Because he's jacked and he's got props.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
He's a good storyteller too. You are our favorite part
of the show. Fellow conspiracy realists, you are excellent storytellers.
When you reach out and touch faith with us, you
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