February 19, 2026 • 60 mins
Does laser technology explain the recent US government airport shutdowns? What did the former President Barack Obama imply in a recent conversation about extraterrestrials? All this and more in this week's listener mail segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
My name is Matt, my name is Noel, and our
compatriot Ben is out on adventures today. And this is uh,
this is listener mail.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That's what it is. Listen, we are joined as always.
We have to say, oh gosh, our Tennessee pal, Dylan
Fagan as well as you.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I remember Tennessee growing up being a tricky state to spell,
and we had to have a bit of a not
a pneumonic but like a T E N N E
s see right, isn't that right? In Double's Lesses to
do for Me? Okay Double A's Double Lesses, Yeah, a
lot of a lot of a lot of a lot
of ease and SSEs. How you doing, man?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean I'm doing good. I'm we just recorded an
episode where I was eating a whole bunch of these
tie red chilies and I'm finally feeling Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What was what were you trying? What are you trying
to prove?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Man?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Uh? Well, in my mind, I had a bigger thing
to it, and I was gonna announce, Hey, I'm gonna
eat these peppers during the episode and see if I
can keep my cool mental. Well yeah, but I was
gonna do it the whole time and eat. I only
ate like a third of four peppers, so I have
one point three pepper.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What's the Scoville scale for these PEPs.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's somewhere between fifty and one hundred K.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So I love that, you know, I was, I was,
I was, I was bluffing, not bluffing, But no, well done.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
That's that's that's high, right, It's it's it's pretty high.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
How high does it go? What's the scale? What's the
range for the Scoville scale?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Uh, you know, it's it's in the millions. But you
get some of those specialty peppers that are like just
bread specifically to have the most.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Poisoned meat basically. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, but these are, like, you know, just standard peppers.
You find a tai cuisine a bunch of like Chinese cuisine,
other cuisine there. I think they're called bird's eye chili,
but there are different.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Versions of them. I'll tell you. If I'm making a
thaie dish and I want to add a little kick
to it, because you know the curry paste or the
various type pastes already are made with chili's. I will
add just one Thai chili, right, and if I want
it really hot, I'll add two.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, that's all you really neat.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I know it really has You're you're you're at what
they call a bit of a is masochist, sata masochist.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
No, I am, well, I think there's something fascinating in
that episode we we're referencing there is about resisting interrogation
and things. And I still firmly believe that all of
that stuff, the fear response, the fight or flight and
all that, it's all a mental game. It's very difficult
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to teach yourself to like alter your response to that
kind of stuff. Generally it's by going through strife and
intense situations where you kind of are almost used to
it and normalized it. We don't want that, we certainly don't.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It always brings to mind when Hoff and the guy,
the guy that can like raise and lower his body
temperature with his mind, and I always forget kind of
where we come down on that. I think it's there's
some truth to it. I mean it can. It can
be achieved with a certain amount of you know, focus
and zeness. I imagine where you can, through mental acuity,
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you know, affect physiological changes in the body.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Oh yeah, well yeah, and yes, in the case of
wind Hoff and in my case with crazy spicy peppers,
you can't stop Like with peppers, you can't stop your
nose from running in your you know, your eyes from
kind of getting all watery and stuff. But you can
stop your mind from freaking out as though you know,
(04:11):
I'm gonna die or this is something terrible is happening
to me, I'm under attack. You can convince yourself this
is okay, which is I think. I don't know the
reason why I do that, and maybe why Windhoff loves
to jumping in the Arctic.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know, well, even it's a cold plunge, I mean,
you know, or just the acclimation of your body to
extreme temperatures. It I think it's both physical and mental
because it's like the initial plunge requires just even just
the psyching yourself out, and then once you get in
and you stay long enough, it kind of normalizes or
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it doesn't feel the same. And I think that's definitely
the body's ability to regulate, but also I think the
there's a mental component to it too. Matt, you were
talking off Mike about a taco joint in Laurenceville that
you wanted to shout out, so that has a very
interesting theme, Sames, as we're talking about spicy foods, I.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Will do that. The place is called Strange Taco. It's
in my experience, it's a little difficult to get to.
It's off a main drive and the you know, you've
ever been to a place where the parking lot kind
of goes up just a little bit, but in a weird.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Way around the back, and it's almost like you're not
even sure if you're supposed to be there.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, it's kind of like one of those if you
can walk up to it, that's definitely like best case scenario.
But parking is fine, just if you got a little
camera like me. You just gotta be careful getting.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Out of there.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
But it is in fact Doctor Strange themed and it
is fabulous, and I would recommend it to anyone.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Doctor Strange the Marvel Wizard, not Doctor Strange. Love or
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the bomb.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You are correct, you you were actually you were you
were wrong because I was wrong. It is Doctor Strange
Love themed, is it really? Yes? So they're on the
front or on the side. I guess there is a
Doctor Strange Love riding the bomb its way down. Yeah,
it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, well Dan, Well, then my follow up about Doctor
Strange the Marvel Wizard is now rendered irrelevant. But I'm
gonna do it anyway, Matt. I know it's no one's bad.
I love to hear about that. That's super fun and
much more conspiratorial themed. That's one of the best satires.
I think that really does such an incredible job Stanley
Kubrick's film of lampooning a lot of things that we're
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seeing play out in our governments today. It's more relevant
than ever, and that was what it came out in,
like the late sixties. Hey, Matt, enough chitter chatter. Let's
take a quick break, and then I think you're going
to start us off with a super fun voicemail from Beefy.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh yeah, dude, and you ready for this A little
transition here. Outside of nukes, there are still some weird,
very powerful weapons being welld by the countries across the
world attempt to protect themsel elves and to attack others.
(07:01):
And BEF has called us with a question about.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Those Oh buy, are you talking about susical and the
musical the weapon of Mass Destruction? No?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Not this time.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well I think, yeah, we're on the same page.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
No, BV is called in specifically about lasers, and let's see,
let's see where he's going with this. So BF to you, sir.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Hey, guys, it's BF from Denver, and I was just
listening to some news about lasers shutting down the airport
in al Paso, and ironically on the way home from
moret guests there listening to stuff you should know talk
about lasers and how those work. It'd be cool to
do an episode on lasers, or at least some understanding
of what happened at the Alpasa airport. Remember the whole
(07:49):
like Star Wars program that the Reagan was doing. I
think it would be cool to do a history of
lasers and how they impacted or interacted with the history
of conspiracies and stuff like that. I know that we
use them in everyday use, but I also know that
they're the subject of a lot of movies and cartoons
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and the military stuff and just curious what is imaginary
verse reality with lad Thanks guys, Remember it's more punk based.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think he said it's more punk based, which is
a reference to another call Beefy made to us.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Okay, I can't recall I love stuff that's.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Punk when it was on the reality show with the Judge.
I think that's correct. That is correct, Dylan.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yes, like one of those Judged Judy type shows.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
That he like.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
He and his friend pretended to go on and have
a like a dispute. Yeah, I do remember this now.
I do remember this now, and he's it was a
bit of a prank, right, like he's sort of Yeah,
he and his buddy were trying to put one over
on the old the old Judge show.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
They're asking about his band, and he said something about
it's more punk based.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I think we did say punk based, and I think
we must have thought that was funny. Yeah, And when
we talked about that really quickly before we jump into lasers,
which I'm excited to do. If my little reference earlier
was not landing. When I said Susicle the musical the weapon,
I was, of course referring to the discombobulator, which is
apparently a new fangled contraption that you know, El Presidente
(09:25):
came up with the name for and is super proud of.
And when asked what it does, he said, it discombobulates.
This is a reference to the attack on Venezuela and
using you know, this technology to disrupt all of their stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Well, yeah, the big question still, I think the remains
from that whole thing is was it some form of
directed energy weapon that could not only disable the human beings, right,
the combatants that they were going into Venezuela to basically
attack and disable so they could get access to the
(10:06):
President Maduro. But not only was it that, but it
also seemed to take out their electronics, like so like
an EMP attack of some sort.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, and that's the funny thing is I think some
insiders who were not maybe spoke under you know, anymity
because they were not authorized to speak on the subject,
said something to the effect of it sounds like Trump
maybe confused several weapons with this one mega weapon, the discombobulator,
which is a hilariously Susian name. But you're talking about
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directed energy. I mean, what as a laser if not
directed energy? And I was going to ask you too,
Matt Like, there's obviously uses for laser that are more
comms based. You know, you can transmit information through focused light.
Fiber optics is not laser exactly, but it's in the
same wheelhouse. But yeah, it's fascinating stuff. And of course
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you can focus a beam of laser enough to cut things.
And yet we don't have energy weapons in the classic
sci fi sense of.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
The word, but we are developing them, and we're focusing
on it because of drone warfare. I think that's really
the impetus to get us two more energy based weapons
that can, let's say, disable an entire swarm of drones
that have explosives on them. They're on their way to
like an aircraft carrier or to abase somewhere. We need
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to have the means to disable all of those in
the air so they fall out of the sky. And
that is exactly what the US military, China's military, Russia's military,
and a lot of forces in Europe are focusing on
that kind of thing for that purpose, right, But we
also know they exist before the need to take out drones,
(11:53):
and we also know that they're oh gosh, I think
it was some country just tested and extremely powerful laser weapon.
That's it is meant to be taken around on ships,
on like large boats, right, ships. I can't remember we
talked about.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
This, ringing a bell. Let's see what the doctor Internet
has to say about this. Okay, focused laser weapon. Ships.
We've got here ship with the laser being well, we've
got the US Navy apparently it's deploying testing high energy
ship mounted laser weapons. That's what I remember talking about,
the sixty plus kilowatt Helios high energy laser with integrated
(12:37):
optical dazzler and surveillance, which seems like a real kind
of Borderlands combo type of weapon.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh yeah, no, you're right. Helius is the thing we
talked about. I'm thinking about a real gun that was
being used by another country's military, and I'm going to
look it up really fast.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Well, there is a Japanese version of this kind of
tech as well, the js Asuka, the Japanese Maritime Self
Defense Force, which was is apparently testing electric drive high
powered lasers as well. And that's his recent as last year.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Oh wow, yeah, okay, that's the one I remember seeing. Yeah, yeah,
Japanese railgun. I'm seeing that from National Defense magazine. But okay,
so we're talking about all kinds of new fangled weaponry
stuff you might see in a sci fi movie, things
you imagine that could even be deployed in space. Right,
These types of energy weapons could be deployed from orbit,
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from space take out another spacecraft or satellite or something
like that, or even you know, just fire from a
ship that's floating on the water up to an aircraft.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Sadly, I don't think they go pewpw. I don't think
that's now.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Nope, just a bunch of superheating all of a sudden.
Very focused. So let's jump to this pretty recent story.
It occurred in a little earlier in February of this
Your twenty twenty six, when the El Paso Airport was
shut down abruptly by.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
The Oh sorry, yeah, yeah, FA is the one what
did it? But it was something to do with belief
that it was a cartel drone, which you pointed out
and our discussion about it on the show. Typically aren't
out there to inflict harm. They're more out there to
drop parcels of you know, booty of a contraband.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, I think the biggest story of this whole thing
is how much confusion was occurring because there were different
stories happening, and it's because of the abrupt nature of
a closure of a pretty big airport like that. I'm
going to jump right now to the Military Times. That's
Military Times dot com. They've got a story here from Thursday,
(14:51):
February twelfth. The title is Pentagon let CBP use anti
drone laser before FAA closed Del Passo Airspace. This is
a report from several different journalists functioning out of there.
I'm just going to read a couple sentences so we
can get an understanding of what this means. It says
the Pentagon allowed US Customs and Border Protection to use
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an anti drone laser earlier this week, leading the Federal
Aviation Administration to suddenly close the airspace over El Paso, Texas.
According to some people who spoke, you know, with the
condition of anonymity. It says the confusing arc of events
began as the FAA announced it was shutting down flight
traffic over the city for ten days and it was
(15:38):
going to strand a bunch of people there. The Trump
administration said it stemmed from the FAA and Pentagon working
to halt an incursion by Mexican cartel drones, which is
not an uncommon thing down there. But then again we
get more details, we realize, oh, this was a laser
that was deployed near Fort Bliss that is out there,
(15:59):
and they did not coordinate with the FAA when they
decided to test this laser out. So the FAA just decided, Oh,
we're going to close the airspace if these folks are
gonna be out there testing lasers like this and you know,
not thinking about the safety of all the other stuff
that's in the air, especially passenger flights and things like that.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay, it's just very weird.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, it super Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Matt, do you mind if I pivot momentarily, just since
we're talking about drones, this is something that we haven't
talked about on the show, but I think I've messaged
you and Ben about this separately. This you know, you're
talking about using these lasers to shoot drones out of
the sky, not physically, but to disrupt their comms. Right,
isn't that sort of the deal? So do you know
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about this workaround?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Sort of?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Or maybe it's not the workaround that I'm thinking, but
it's something that I was unaware of and that my
buddy Peyton, who was staying with me a couple of
weeks ago, pointed out that in Ukraine there are these
drones that use hardwired fiber optic cables to receive their
data and their columns, and when they do get shot
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down or I believe just in the process of having
so many of these, they litter the landscape with what
looks like spider webs. There's just like thousands and thousands
upon thousands of this fiber optic cable laying around and
it's wild looking, and it's something we haven't talked about,
and that really kind of blew me away when I
heard about that. I didn't know if you'd seen anything
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about this, or if that's of interest in terms of like,
is that an antidote to being more vulnerable to these
kinds of lasers and is it Obviously it also makes
them vulnerable in other ways because they can get tangled
up in this literal wire. But is it is it
a worthwhile trade off?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Ooh, that's a tough question. Yet we did I think
we did briefly talk about this, Noel, just for a second,
because I'm remembering it, and I had no I didn't
know this was even a thing until you brought it up.
I think we at least we at least talked about
it for a second because we talked about the countermeasures
for it. Where there are soldiers who are putting up
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basically spinning razor wire. So when if you imagine this
spider silky looking fiber optic cable draping across the land
as a drone continues on, this spinning razor wire will
cut the communications. Therefore, you know, the drone loses its
abilities to be at least directly controlled by somebody. The
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big thing for me we're talking about this is there's
different technologies that will disrupt different things in a drone's operation.
The laser technology, to my understanding, is not so much
about disrupting communications. It is about like superheating the metal
and the electronics with.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
It, causing it to fritz out, basically like yah overheating
you know computer where that like literally these chips get
very very hot and if they don't have proper ventilation
and cooling, then your whole system can you know, blink out.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yes, But there are other like turret based weapons that
are meant to do the thing you're talking about, where
it would actually just disrupt all the communications and render
the thing inoperable while it's flying through the air pretty high,
so it would theoretically get destroyed as it impacted let's
say the water. If you're if you're dealing with some
navel encounters or something.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Got it. Yeah, and last thing on the fiber stuff,
I just was looking on Reddit. I just wanted I
think this is an interesting perspective. Someone feel the Avocado
posted about this in a response to the images of
just these like fiber cables just littering the landscape in
Ukraine like spider webs. I work in fiber optics. This
is really bad. You really don't want to get a
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fiber optic shard of glass into your skin. It never leaves,
and you really don't want it in your bloodstream. I
hope that they can do a structured and organize cleanup,
but I doubt that will happen. Goes on to say,
my worst fear is working at a customer's house when
I am splicing the fiber at the ETP in their garden,
leaving a shard for a cat or a dog to
get an en spa. I did not know that that
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was a thing either.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Matt mm mmm, no, thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Uh. I've never been around a bunch of fiber optic
cabling or wires, so.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Maybe or when we see it, we're not seeing the
raw versions of it. We're seeing the shielded you know
kind of it's inside wrapped inside of a you know,
a shielded rubber housing.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, for sure, dang, I know. I got one last
thing on laser before we get out of here for
an ad break.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
If you want to check out the specific laser, I
think you can, and I think we know, but I'm
not one hundred percent sure, so you're gonna have to
do a little research on your own. Here it's a
thing called the Locust, an arrow vironment locust laser directed
energy weapon that the US Army uses. You can head
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on over to tw Z dot com. That's the Warzone
dot com. I don't know much about that outlet. I
don't know much about anybody that runs it, but they
are referencing a Reuter's article that is, you know, being
that is being talked about here, and there are a
lot of questions about this locust laser design and what
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it can actually do. But if you go here, and
you check it out, it seems intense. Would be a way.
It looks like a turret system that you can mount
to a number of different things, like a huge ATV
or maybe even to a plane or perhaps you know again,
I think it's all army stuff. So it looks like
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it's mostly land based applications. At this point, do we
know much about the tech behind this stuff?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Like what's the energy source's just being focused through optics
like through lenses or is it I don't I guess
I just don't understand like how it could be self
contained in that way and be like on a moving
vehicle without a serious wired power supply or some sort
of like high energy you know source.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's it's all about the energy that you can throw
into the thing. It's a twenty kilowatt laser at least
according to TWZ. And when you like, if you look
at the system, the laser itself, the thing that you know,
if you've seen a laser pointer before, the thing you
imagine that is just the little tip and where the
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laser comes out of. It's relatively small, like it looks
like you could wrap your hands around it. Probably couldn't
pick it up because it's all metal, but it's attached
to a system below it that is I would say
the most bulk of the whole system, the most weight
of the whole system, and that is just the battery
powered system that it's running on. Got it, because you know,
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it can't be just plugged into the wall somewhere to
another larger energy source. It has to be mobile so
it can be effective. So I get starting battery.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, I'm sort of taking for granted the fact that
we have pretty compact batteries now that can like run
a whole car, you know what I mean. So it's
probably gonna be that level of I imagine some sort
of lithium ion situation.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm sure, and I don't know a
lot of the specifics. You can see pictures of different
types of drones that this Locust system has been tested on,
and you can see just how burnt up the plastic
and metal pieces are, like they got lasered out of
the sky. So again, not disabled with this.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Energy za burnt Yeah. Okay, So I was definitely under
selling it in terms of just saying, okay, it's causing
the components to heat up and fritz, like it's it's
actually causing physical melty meltiness to the things.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Physical meltiness, Babe, exactly. Well, well, Bfi, to your point,
I think it is worth our time to do an
entire laser's episode. I think we've wanted to do this before.
I don't know if it was U Beef, you're somebody
else who called in and said, hey, let's talk more
about lasers after the fires in Hawaii and there were
so many rumors about there being some kind of directed
(24:12):
energy laser weapon that started those fires again, rumors, there's
some conspiracy theories about that, and then stuff that Marjorie
Taylor Green was talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
All right, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Forgot and all of that, well, that all stuff was
stemming from some of the forest fires and how they began.
A lot of it is pretty easily disputable, I think.
But then some of the weird stuff with like blue
roofs on certain houses and things that would potentially reflect
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a blue laser beam very interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, Matt. Most importantly, in terms of anybody's perspective on
all this stuff, I want to know what the insane
clown posse has to say about how laser's work.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Well, they're putting it out there. We know you're listening
ICP folks, So get to us, and what do you
think about these lasers? Well, hey, whylet me take a break.
We'll be right back afterword from our sponsors.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Sounds good, and we have returned. I have some fun
laser talk.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yes, it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
If nothing, you know, it's it's still to this day
kind of feels like the most futuristic thing, and yet
we know it's also like a toy that you can
use like with to you know, mess with your cat.
We're finally getting to a place where we have space
lasers on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Have you ever had a cat that loves a laser pointer?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Do you think they love it? Or do you think
it's like antagonistic? Is my question? H I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
The only time it's ever worked for me is on
one of the cats my family had.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Someone just ignore it.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, someone dolion. There's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Why are you doing that? I've never seen your holding
it make a cat nuts. I've never not like totally
make it do a thing.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Wow, man, hah, I just I don't get it. I
had a dog that would go nuts for a laser pointer.
Penny she was like this Tennessee tree hound mix and
oh man, if you shot a laser pointer anywhere near
the floor, she would just go nuts for that thing.
It was so much fun. She loved chasing it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Penny the Tennessee tree pal Yep, yeah, yeah, Well, Matt,
I've got a fun one that I think we all
saw in the wild when this happened, and I'm just
gonna jump right to it as a message from our
buddy who goes by the name only Nol should have
facial hair, which maybe is like a micro aggression towards
(26:46):
Ben's mustache, which I think is amazing. But I do
appreciate I do appreciate this, this this reference here. But
I think you know, we can all have facial hair.
We're grown man. If you can grow it, flaunt it.
That's what I say. So jumping in, how's it going,
Hope that Netflix money is good? It's there's no Netflix money.
We do it for the for the love of the game.
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So recently on Brian Taylor Cohen's YouTube channel, which I
quite enjoy, Obama, that's President Barack who saying Obama said
aliens were real. He also said his first question as
president was were there aliens. Let's let's take a pause there,
because he does eventually kind of come back and clarify
(27:30):
his statement. This was part of this is Me Now,
a thing that Brian Taylor Tyler Cohen does on his
video interviews. He does kind of a lightning round. It's
meant to be sort of zippy. You know. He asks
like quick questions and then you know, gets quick responses,
then moves on Obama, does you know say aliens are real?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I think is all he said. I think the question
was our aliens real? And Obama said yes, but they
don't they they're not being hidden at an Area fifty one.
He even has trouble come up with the name at
the top of his head, Area fifty one, and he said,
unless there's some conspiracy, that's that that went above above
me where they're keeping this from the president. I do
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not think that there are any you know, at evidence
that we have of aliens. So let's start from there. Matt,
do you think that's like a hot hot take? Is
he going for clicks there like it's it's yeah, well, it's.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
It's tough to know. Sounded to me. Sounded to me
like the former president was just doing his thing and
quick and you know, and feeling the tone of the
interview and having some fun with it. But I do
I mean, I know that we just a two parter
on the Legacy Program. And that's not because we thought
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it was a silly thing to talk about. It's because
it's it's a topic that is being taken seriously by
people in high levels of our government, and it is
something that has been you know, the X Files in
nineteen ninety three was talking about this thing, basically, the
Legacy Program that would be kept from the President of
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the United States.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
That is a good point, Matt. That would be the
thing that Obama was referencing, I mean, not him, maybe
not directly what he was referring to, but if there
were a consorted you know, the cover up of some
kind that goes deeper than you know, what we would
think is the highest office in the land, that's what
the Legacy program is referring to.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, so if there is something like that, maybe President
Obama doesn't know about it. Maybe President Trump doesn't know
about it. Maybe you know, when President Clinton allegedly went
in and asked about it, he wasn't actually told the truth.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
M There's no way for us to know, yeah, sort
of the nature of it, Yeah, I mean, you know,
and we've talked about this too, the disclosure of it
all being a little underwhelming when that happened, you know,
or the version of it we got, which was kind
of the government acknowledging yeah, there's some sort of unexplained
aerial phenomenon on the tic TAC video and all of
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that stuff, but never fully going so far as to
acknowledge life on. You know, they're almost more referring to
the technology than they are to like any kind of creature,
wouldn't you say?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, Yeah, I was having a conversation about this pretty recently, Noel,
just outside of the space of stuff they want.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
You to know.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
But you talk to people not on the podcasts.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Crazy, that's messed up, isn't that crazy? But I was
having a conversation about this and trying to even rationalize
some of the things I kind of am starting to
believe about it, Okay, like what and well, just realizing
how woo woo it sounds when you get into the
some of the physics of it, and like holographic somehow
(30:55):
projection from four D or five D space onto read
three dimensional space and what that would look like and
how it would function. The stuff that's over my head
and I don't understand. But some of the stuff that's
talked about in the Age of disclosure and talked about
by a high level physicist as they're trying to explain
to people like me how something like that could function
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if you had extra I may have missed this bit.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
This is from some of the disclosure documents, like talking
about some kind of high level holographic technology. I don't
it's been a minute since we've talked about that, but
I don't know that I got the memo on that one.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I would say it's hinted at as in, perhaps the
things we're experiencing, at least some of them, are not
physical creatures or intelligences or even technology that traveled vast
distances of space, but somehow bridge bridge a gap into
three dimensional space that and a time and space that
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we can experience right with just our sensory systems and
our weapons systems and radar and all that. But actually
it's just some kind of projection into three D space
out outside of our understanding of dimension. I'm butchering it like.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's fascinating Matt, I want to do a little more
digging into that, because I I must have missed missed
that one. Because that's uh. I think that's the interesting
thing about too these kinds of documents, the sort of
the data dump method where it takes a lot of
effort to parse through it all to even find something
worth paying attention to, like we're seeing with the STO files.
But that's that's sort of the nature of some of
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the stuff, like when they want to like bury the
needle in the haystack, and I did not catch that
particular needle, Matt.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well, it's probably because it's a weird one. It doesn't
really make sense and it's so outlanded.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That's like a thought experiment. That's super cool.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, it would just it would make more sense to
me rationally than the whole vast distance travel with biological
entities and all that, if it was just something that
was blipping in for one reason or another. And of
course you'd have to apply, you know, our own human
rational thought to why would they do that?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Right?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
And that's where I struggled in this discussion I was having,
like why would something blip in if it was extra dimensional?
Why would it jump in here and check us out
for a second. But then I'm seeing news about time
crystals that are being created. Again. I'm looking at, you know,
theoretical time travel that doesn't have paradoxes. That's like the
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news is talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I've been up to my ears in time travel fiction lately.
I just finished the incredible Netflix German language series Dark,
which deals with wormholes and all of those paradoxes, and
you know, people end up being their own grandpa and
stuff through you know, various glitches and time travel and stuff.
(33:55):
It's such a great show because it has these parallel
time lines that are happening at the same time, and
it's just it's really it's a little hard to follow
at times, and really it rewards your attention. But it's
not one that you can second screen. But that one
and then there was another timey whimy. Well, it's gonna
come back to me. But what about these time cristals.
I know we've talked about it briefly just in passing
(34:18):
on I believe strange news, But can you remind me
a little more about some of the furtherances of these
types of theoretical you know, discussions.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
It's just weird, real science stuff that I again do
not understand. But the idea that, oh how is it
described in the article I was reading today. Imagine you're
pushing your child on a swing, and you're pushing them
once every second. But instead of your child moving up
(34:50):
and coming back for you to push it every two seconds,
it moves at a rate of two seconds. But it
doesn't lose any of its Oh god, I can't even
do it. I can't even say it right. You're gonna
have to look it up. I don't understand it. But
the whole point of talking about time crystals, though, is
that we're discovering things as a species that is leading
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me closer and closer to this potential thought that at
some point we find a way to time travel and
come back, and that like the things we might be
experiencing really are just us from some far flown future
in the And then it gives you that reasoning of, well,
maybe they're coming back to try and prevent whatever it
(35:35):
is from happening.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
The micro spoiler alert for a decades old movie like
an Interstellar, Hmmm, well that's the thing that they're experiencing.
They're experiencing this phenomenon that they associate with some sort
of otherworldly being, but it is in fact us from
the future reaching back out to us from the past.
(35:59):
And that's the kind of stuff they they deal with
in dark It is beyond fascinating and again beyond difficult
to trap your head around. Matt, you may also be
referring to this NYU piece or this is a study
from NYU. Scientists discover levitating time crystals that can you
can hold in your hand. Time crystals, a collection of
particles that tick or move back and forth in repeating cycles,
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were first theorized and then discovered about a decade ago.
While scientists have yet to create commercial or industrial applications
for this intriguing form of matter, these crystals hold great
promise for advancing quantum computing and data storage, among other uses.
So maybe the name time crystals is it sounds like
something you would use to power the tartists. It's not
exactly that, but man, it just goes to show how
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little we know.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
How little we don't know. I don't know anything, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Well and neither does Obama. And I love that he
comes back. And you know, when this starts a real
hullabaloo online and people saying, see so Obama said it. Obama.
Obama said there's aliens. He came back on Twitter and said,
I was trying to stick with the spirit of the
speed round, but since it's gotten attention, let me clarify.
And this is sort of the point that I believe
we're both making. Statistically, the universe is so vast that
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the odds are good that there's life out there, but
the distances between solar systems are so great that the
chances we've been visited by aliens is low. And I
saw no evidence during my presidency that extraterrestrials have made
contact with us. Really exclamation mark. Our listener goes on,
I was thinking about this reply, and I don't feel
like it's a walk back. He said a common theory
(37:32):
that aliens probably exist. This doesn't refute what he said
earlier about them existing. He also said he saw no
evidence during his presidency that they have made contact with us.
What he didn't say was if they made contact with
us before his presidency, if they made contact with someone
else during or before his presidency, or if there was
evidence of aliens that did not make contact before or
(37:54):
during his presidency seen by us or someone else.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Wow, it's about what you don't say.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Huh, it's about the notes not played Matt Well, yes, exactly,
the spice between who is that money to that is
that DMB?
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah. I've got a dear friend of the show who
thinks that one day, speaking of the future, there will
be a reassessment of the Dave Matthews Band that will
determine that they are in fact totally hip, sort of
like what's happened with Steely Dan. I.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I still think they're one of the greatest bands ever
to have watched this planet, but.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
They're you know, unequivocally not cool. All right, I'm sorry,
I'm being a snarb Dylan. What do you think? I
know you're a Steely Dan Man. I am very much
a Steely Dan Man. I am looking at a I
feel like Pitchfork did a Sunday review of a Dave
Matthews Band album recently and gave it a pretty much score,
(39:00):
so they reassessed it. See, Frank nailed it. Frank nailed it.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Thanks Frank. Don't you know who else nailed it? This
Nole's facial hair character?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Oh big time? What a funny email. Yeah, no, thank you.
Only nol should have facial hair. I really appreciate that
I grew a myself. Geez, was that long enough? I've
got another little blurb. Not that we're like, you know,
it's a podcast. We can do whatever we want. No,
I'm gonna read the blurb. I'm gonna read the blurb.
This is in reference to North Dakota and weird missile
(39:33):
silos and the pyramid building I think for example. Okay, yeah,
there's actually two two responses to that, Denton, Texas subterranean
missile silos and bunker type stuff. Hi, Ben Matt Nole,
I've been listening to your podcast for years now, and
I'm finally excited to finally see North Dakota being talked about,
even if it's for a missile base. I grew up
(39:54):
around fifteen miles from Nicoma. It is actually the middle
of nowhere. I went to ed Moore for which wasn't
far away, and I only had four kids in my
graduating class. Jeez, that is small. Not many people are
around in this area. There are many missile bases or
missile base sites. Some people even live in them. The
pyramid shaped building in Nacoma has now been passed around
(40:19):
to a few people as you were talking on your podcast.
It still has the tall barred wire fence around it
as far as I know. I remember kids trying to
sneak in when I was younger, and that time they
still had At that time, they still had cameras up.
It's definitely a weird place anyway. I was just wanting
to say thank you for mentioning it and talking about
rural North Dakota we aren't talked about very much. Also,
(40:42):
my family owns a farm up in that area. If
you ever decided to visit Naicoma, I'm sure my parents
would love to meet you. Very very sweet, very kind,
and we would love to do that as well. Yeah,
that's that's interesting. Can you imagine growing up in a
place like that, like, and did you do? Did you
have any weird abandoned buildings or you know, creepy sites
(41:04):
where you grew up that you would like, you know,
explore when you weren't supposed to.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I'm gonna plead the fifth there. In the most part,
I would just say, I would just say there was
an abandoned mental health facility.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Near where I grew up. I'm sorry it wasn't haunted.
I mean I was.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Positive that it was, and there may have been some
breaks in the fence in a couple of areas to
get into the facility, you know, but probably I don't
think any kids would go in there, you know, looking
for hauntings and things like that. That would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Abandoned psychiatric hospital is very high on my list of
that's a nope from me. Places.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Well, we were curious, okay, I mean somebody might.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
You little devil. I Actually it's funny. Growing up in
my hometown in Augusta, Georgia, I went to a school
called Davidson Fine Arts, and I actually went there the
last I think two years that they were in this
really old, crazy building that turned out to be full
of asbestos, and they moved. They built a brand new building,
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and then I was the last class that was in
the old building and we went to the new building.
And then I went to that building for some years,
but they it's the old one just lay like derelict
for so long, much like the Pont City Market we
have now here in Atlanta that used to be the
old city Hall. I think there was a period where
it was just no attention was paid to it, and
(42:42):
it was just like this crumbling kind of you know,
post apocalyptic kind of you know facade, but the old
Davidson building. I distinctly remember going in there with some
friends late at night because it was either an open
window or whatever, and like all of these desks were
piled up and they were just piles of old textbooks,
and like there was an isolation booth in the orchestra
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room that he was still in there, and like and
then the theater. There was like a little theater that
I think was where most of the asbestos was. All
the seats were covered in tarps, and we went in
there and we heard rustlings and we were young enough
to be super freaked out by that. I'm pretty sure
some unhoused folks had found, you know, a nice warm
spot to you know, set up shop under those tarps.
(43:26):
But it was freaky as al.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Who wish I was there, I mean that would have
been fun. I mean, uh, don't go in places.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
What is it what you say? Fifth?
Speaker 6 (43:37):
Fifth?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's it's.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Well last one, since we're on the you know weird
uh subterranean esque type places.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
This one comes from a buddy by the name of
Jack the Insomniac. Hello, longtime listener, first time caller. I'm
from Texas myself, so it's always fun to hear an
episode that pertains to things nearby. Just listen to the
episode about Denton, Texas. Funnily enough, I grew up and
have lived about an hour outside of Dallas my entire
life and had never heard of that stuff. I don't
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have much to add in regards to the episode itself,
but if you guys ever find yourselves around DFW, I'd
be stoked to invite you out for a beer at
an amazing local brewery. If y'all do that kind of thing, lol,
we do, Thank you. I can also give you all
a tip for some amazing tacos or barbecue in the area.
I'm Hispanic, so it takes a lot for me to
admit tacos are amazing lmao. Hell yeah, I have a
(44:31):
very high bar, as do we. Insomniac Jack. I like
that better than Jack Insomniac. Now, whatever man you called it,
who am I to to revise your incredible nickname. We
love all these things. We're glad that the Denton subterranean
kind of potential city thing resonated with folks. We're just
(44:53):
a fan of that kind of.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Weird yep tacos and local brewis.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Well, let's go under around cities. Sign me up or
get me out of here, Matt, what do you say?
We take another quick pause for the cause and then
come back with one last I think you got another
listener audio piece.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yes we do, and we've returned. We're gonna jump quickly
to a message from Nobody Special. That's their nickname.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Everybody the best part of the show.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
First of all, we completely disagree Nobody Special, but we
are we are going to jump to stop selling yourself short,
please seriously, seriously.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Hey guys, longtime listener, big fan. You guys can call
me Nobody Special because that's exactly what I am.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Hard.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
A few years ago, the great state of California put
forward the first comprehensive consumer privacy law, I mean I
states and a lot of other states followed after that
with basically derivative copycat laws. But there's kind of a
trojan horse in all these laws. So each of these
laws give multiple rights. One of them is like the
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right to opt out of the sale and sharing, the
right to delete, the right to correct your information. But
the trojan horse I'm talking about is the right to
know your information. You have the ability to reach out
to data brokers and say, hey, what information.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Do you have on me?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Oh, who are you selling it to? It might be
good to know for people who are very privacy minded.
The issue with it, though, is that it is a
key for hackers or just data feasts in general, to
go in and get your data from data brokers without
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triggering a data breach, because there's no way for the
data broker to know that it's not you. The government
essentially gave them the keys. Now you might think, oh, well,
the data brokers need to have processes in place to
prevent and filter out this fraud, and that would be
great and everything, But at least in California, the regulations
say that if you're going to deny someone because you
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think they're claim as fraudulent, you have to tell them why.
So the government requires that when you catch a fraudster,
you have to tell them why you think they're a fraudster,
basically giving them the impetus to be able to subvert
whatever mechanisms and filters you had in place to catch
them in the first place. And this may sound conspiratorial,
(47:31):
but I'm telling you right now, I have knowledge of
people who've already fallen victim of this, people who've already
had data brokers leak their information to third parties who
happen to have some precursory data from prior data breaches,
a whole new dearth of information from them, and again
(47:51):
it's all under the table. Nobody knows it's happening because
the government gave them the mechanism to do this, So
look into it more. I think it's going to become
a bigger problem in the future because ultimately, when you
can have basically targeted data harvesting and data theft of individuals,
maybe even high value individuals, without actually having to breach
(48:14):
a system because the government gave you basically the door
and the keys to do it, privacy is an illusion. Guys,
have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Oh nobody's special my left foot. That was terrifying and phenomenal.
I mean, what insights because I think we Matt, we
talked recently about this whole right to be forgotten thing
or like, you know, how do you reach out and
find out what they've got on you? Is there a
method for doing that, And I think I pose the question,
(48:44):
you know, of what does that look like? And I
don't know that we got there. But this answers that.
But is he saying that by doing the people can
do this on your behalf, pretending to be you, and
then that gives them access to more data? I think
I'm a confused.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Okay, you'll have to correct me here if if I'm
getting this wrong. Nobody special. But my understanding is there
have been so many data breaches right.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Over that you've been I've been in multiple Oh.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah, oh yeah, I think we all have at this point.
Literally there have been so many from so many different services,
you know, technology companies, government entities, everything. Yes, yeah, but
you take some of that information that's already been leaked
that let's say you've gotten access to somehow as a
bad actor. You use that information to use this new
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program under let's say the California Consumer Privacy Act of
twenty eighteen, and you attempt to get the information from
some data broker about let's say Matt or No or
Dylan or you.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Or by getting that information, you're getting the.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Data NOK by attempting to get that data. If let's
say that data broker senses that something is wrong in
the force here, they say, hey, you, we think you're
a fraudster, and here's why, and they have to tell
you via this law. Here's why. So now you have
that information, this is why they thought you were not
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really Matt Frederick, you were somebody else.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
So it helps them with their their play, It helps
them with their their long con Yes, and you.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Do it as many times as you need, to learn
as much information as you need to until it finally
goes through.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
I totally missed that point. They're they're learning more and
more little tips and tricks on how to cheat the system.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Yes, that's at least what nobody special is saying.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
I think that's one hundred percent what he's saying. We
are only in California. At least he was saying that this,
this this particular thing was in California.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Well, the first law in the US for this kind
of thing happened in California. But since then, you've got
similar laws in Virginia, Colorado, Connecticut, Iowa, India. I mean
just there are a bunch of different states now that
are doing this, and you know the countries that are
really leading the charge in the stuff and have for
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a long time. Places out in the UK, countries in Europe,
a lot of places like that are having a lot
more consumer protection laws around, you know, data privacy and
things like that. But we are attempting, the US is
attempting to do that state by state. It's just we've
got a lot to learn still, and I think it
would be in our best interest, in everybody's best interest,
(51:23):
to maybe go over the current state of things in
the US when it comes to this stuff, but in
a larger context, so a larger episode.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Well, it's another one of those like technology always outpaces
legislation situations, and this is one that really affects US.
I don't know about you, Matt, but like my phone
rings ten times a day, and I've got like a
thing where I've learned making the phone screen the calls.
But it's all this scam saying that I've got access
to some crazy loan and it's all via phone bots,
(51:55):
and I finally figured out how to screen it so
it doesn't really bother me all the time. They come
like sometimes five in our row, and so I guess
my phone number was in one of these breaches. Thankfully,
I don't seem to be experiencing any other knock on
consequences of this stuff, but that to me is the biggest, Like, Okay,
this is definitely as a result of my stuff being
out there to some degree.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
Yeah, on my end, I would just say it is
time for me to get a new phone number. I
think it is for me too, for me too, come
in new phone number on the way, same reasons.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yikes.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Speaking of new things, our show is now on Netflix
twice a week, and things are changing up just a
little bit on our end of how we do things,
and that's why Fuzzy wrote into us. Just notice some changes.
So let's let's hear from Fuzzy quickly and let us
get you some answers and then we'll get out of here.
So let's jump to Fuzzy.
Speaker 6 (52:51):
Hey, guys, I hope FA's okay with y'all. Y'all have
not posted a new video in a couple of weeks
on YouTube, and uh that that's a little concerning, because
that's how I got to listen to y'all. Uh. I
don't know if it's a a business problem or whether
(53:12):
somebody's had some sort of emergency or something. I hope
there's I hope it's planned and it's not something that y'all,
you know, a hiccup of some sort, you know. I
hope there's something like everybody wanted to go on vacation
at the same time or something. But uh, I wish
y'all well, regardless of what's going on, y'all take care,
(53:37):
have fun, and uh, well, we'll see y'all further down
the road.
Speaker 4 (53:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
It's fuzzy referring to like YouTube clips or something that
we're using.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
We used to know this more regularly. Uh, if if
you head on over to YouTube dot com slash conspiracy Stuff,
you will see that the last video they got posted
there that is just the video is just the audio
of a podcast.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Oh, we were doing that, I guess. I totally didn't
even clock that we were still doing that. That's why
I was confusing.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Well, the last one posted was our interview with Toby
Ball for Rip Current Season two, and that was three
weeks ago as we record on February eighteenth.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
So I had no idea we were still doing that.
But oh, we're doing something different now, and it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yes, we're doing something different, and we are currently unsure
of the future of our YouTube channel, like what's going
to be posted there or not, but for sure, twice
a week you can get our primary episodes on Netflix.
So you have a Netflix account, you can head over
there and search for stuff they don't want you to know,
(54:45):
or just stuff you'll find us, and you can watch
those or listen to them however you want to consume them.
There will be video of our good faces.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
We did a good job, well we didn't. I mean,
we worked with our video folks, Jordan and Mark to
get some fun little sets going in our various studios
and situations and got some cool cameras and some lighting
and really went a long way to make sure each
of our frames shows off our personality. So if you
ever want to see what our mugs look like talking
(55:14):
and let our little you know, nests look like, that's
the way to do it.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Yeah, and I believe it's JJ that is editing the videos,
working alongside our most excellent and prestigious U Dylan Fagan
to create both the video and audio versions of the show.
But so that's one way. The other way is through
like Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere else that gets our
(55:40):
RSS feed just for the audio podcast. You can still
hear five episodes a week every week that way, so
just you know, you just got to find them. Unfortunately,
it is annoying if they're not coming out on YouTube
like this, because at least some people saw it on YouTube,
just like you, Fuzzy, but I don't. I don't, it's all.
(56:02):
It's not many, y'all. It's like nine hundred views on YouTube,
one point five k views on YouTube, which is just
to be honest, y'all, nothing compared to how other people
are consuming the stuff.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Well, yeah, it's funny. Like there's a podcast I really
love called The Weekly Planet. It's these lovely Australian fellows
talking about nerd stuff, and I discovered them on YouTube
as a as like an audio podcast where the video
is just like a graphic and for whatever reason, I
continue to listen to them on YouTube, like I'm just
a creature of habit in that way. So I'm with you, Fuzzy.
(56:37):
I totally understand. And if all of a sudden, Weekly
Planets stop putting out new episodes on YouTube, I'd probably
be a little concerned too, and I'd for whatever reason,
I listened to all my other stuff on Apple podcasts
but not The Weekly Planet, because I found it on
that in that environment, and that is where I continue
to consume it. Oh and if you are consuming us
(56:57):
on any of those streamers of note, the Spotify's, the
Apple Podcast, specifically Apple Podcast, we love it. If you
could leave us a cool review and do check us
out on Netflix. It's a fun thing that we're doing
and we're enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
I'm enjoying it absolutely right to Bob Netflix whoever runs
that place, and say stuff they don't want you to know.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
So yay, that's all.
Speaker 3 (57:20):
I think.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
That's all you have to put, so you gotta put it.
They know us there. They send us headphones, by the way,
the most gorgeous gift wrapping I've ever seen, Like do
they have a whole division over at Netflix. That's just
like expert gift wraps, gift wrappers like they do at
Barnes and Noble around the holidays. I mean the cornering
(57:41):
on it. My god, ah, custom Netflix ribbons. Look, we're
not that fancy, y'all. We're super excited just to be
in the room and to be working with Netflix. It's
super fun. But I was blown away by that little
nifty gifty of some so No's headphones they sent us.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
They were wonderful. It's an amazing gift we appreciated.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
Netflix.
Speaker 3 (57:59):
Did you see the recent news about forever chemicals and
other really dangerous cancer causing and endocrine disrupting chemicals that
are in most, especially high end headphones.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Jesus, that's where you're pivoting to Matt. We're talking about
a lovely gesture from a giant corporation.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Netflix didn't know.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
I'm where is it in the padding? I imagine it's
in the padding.
Speaker 3 (58:21):
I don't know. It's just supposed to be really dangerous.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
But it must be in the squishy padding. I almost
guarantee that's the kind of place that stuff like that
would be.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
Like.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
I know, I've heard of yoga matte material in the
past being carcinogenic. So anytime you get like a squishy,
porous kind of substance like that, I think that maybe
it requires some deadly substances from time to time. You
think they would have figure that out.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
I know. Yeah, Hey, well, at least you can hear
stuff they don't want you to know on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Until your brains melt inside of your skull from Forever chemicals.
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Hello, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
My name is Matt, my name is Noel, and our
compatriot Ben is out on adventures today. And this is uh,
this is listener mail.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
That's what it is. Listen, we are joined as always.
We have to say, oh gosh, our Tennessee pal, Dylan
Fagan as well as you.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I remember Tennessee growing up being a tricky state to spell,
and we had to have a bit of a not
a pneumonic but like a T E N N E
s see right, isn't that right? In Double's Lesses to
do for Me? Okay Double A's Double Lesses, Yeah, a
lot of a lot of a lot of a lot
of ease and SSEs. How you doing, man?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I mean I'm doing good. I'm we just recorded an
episode where I was eating a whole bunch of these
tie red chilies and I'm finally feeling Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
What was what were you trying? What are you trying
to prove?
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Man?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Uh? Well, in my mind, I had a bigger thing
to it, and I was gonna announce, Hey, I'm gonna
eat these peppers during the episode and see if I
can keep my cool mental. Well yeah, but I was
gonna do it the whole time and eat. I only
ate like a third of four peppers, so I have
one point three pepper.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
What's the Scoville scale for these PEPs.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
It's somewhere between fifty and one hundred K.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
So I love that, you know, I was, I was,
I was, I was bluffing, not bluffing, But no, well done.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
That's that's that's high, right, It's it's it's pretty high.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
How high does it go? What's the scale? What's the
range for the Scoville scale?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Uh, you know, it's it's in the millions. But you
get some of those specialty peppers that are like just
bread specifically to have the most.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Poisoned meat basically. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, but these are, like, you know, just standard peppers.
You find a tai cuisine a bunch of like Chinese cuisine,
other cuisine there. I think they're called bird's eye chili,
but there are different.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Versions of them. I'll tell you. If I'm making a
thaie dish and I want to add a little kick
to it, because you know the curry paste or the
various type pastes already are made with chili's. I will
add just one Thai chili, right, and if I want
it really hot, I'll add two.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, that's all you really neat.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I know it really has You're you're you're at what
they call a bit of a is masochist, sata masochist.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
No, I am, well, I think there's something fascinating in
that episode we we're referencing there is about resisting interrogation
and things. And I still firmly believe that all of
that stuff, the fear response, the fight or flight and
all that, it's all a mental game. It's very difficult
(03:07):
to teach yourself to like alter your response to that
kind of stuff. Generally it's by going through strife and
intense situations where you kind of are almost used to
it and normalized it. We don't want that, we certainly don't.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
It always brings to mind when Hoff and the guy,
the guy that can like raise and lower his body
temperature with his mind, and I always forget kind of
where we come down on that. I think it's there's
some truth to it. I mean it can. It can
be achieved with a certain amount of you know, focus
and zeness. I imagine where you can, through mental acuity,
(03:45):
you know, affect physiological changes in the body.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Oh yeah, well yeah, and yes, in the case of
wind Hoff and in my case with crazy spicy peppers,
you can't stop Like with peppers, you can't stop your
nose from running in your you know, your eyes from
kind of getting all watery and stuff. But you can
stop your mind from freaking out as though you know,
(04:11):
I'm gonna die or this is something terrible is happening
to me, I'm under attack. You can convince yourself this
is okay, which is I think. I don't know the
reason why I do that, and maybe why Windhoff loves
to jumping in the Arctic.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You know, well, even it's a cold plunge, I mean,
you know, or just the acclimation of your body to
extreme temperatures. It I think it's both physical and mental
because it's like the initial plunge requires just even just
the psyching yourself out, and then once you get in
and you stay long enough, it kind of normalizes or
(04:45):
it doesn't feel the same. And I think that's definitely
the body's ability to regulate, but also I think the
there's a mental component to it too. Matt, you were
talking off Mike about a taco joint in Laurenceville that
you wanted to shout out, so that has a very
interesting theme, Sames, as we're talking about spicy foods, I.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Will do that. The place is called Strange Taco. It's
in my experience, it's a little difficult to get to.
It's off a main drive and the you know, you've
ever been to a place where the parking lot kind
of goes up just a little bit, but in a weird.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Way around the back, and it's almost like you're not
even sure if you're supposed to be there.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, it's kind of like one of those if you
can walk up to it, that's definitely like best case scenario.
But parking is fine, just if you got a little
camera like me. You just gotta be careful getting.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Out of there.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
But it is in fact Doctor Strange themed and it
is fabulous, and I would recommend it to anyone.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Doctor Strange the Marvel Wizard, not Doctor Strange. Love or
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the bomb.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You are correct, you you were actually you were you
were wrong because I was wrong. It is Doctor Strange
Love themed, is it really? Yes? So they're on the
front or on the side. I guess there is a
Doctor Strange Love riding the bomb its way down. Yeah,
it's incredible.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, well Dan, Well, then my follow up about Doctor
Strange the Marvel Wizard is now rendered irrelevant. But I'm
gonna do it anyway, Matt. I know it's no one's bad.
I love to hear about that. That's super fun and
much more conspiratorial themed. That's one of the best satires.
I think that really does such an incredible job Stanley
Kubrick's film of lampooning a lot of things that we're
(06:23):
seeing play out in our governments today. It's more relevant
than ever, and that was what it came out in,
like the late sixties. Hey, Matt, enough chitter chatter. Let's
take a quick break, and then I think you're going
to start us off with a super fun voicemail from Beefy.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Oh yeah, dude, and you ready for this A little
transition here. Outside of nukes, there are still some weird,
very powerful weapons being welld by the countries across the
world attempt to protect themsel elves and to attack others.
(07:01):
And BEF has called us with a question about.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Those Oh buy, are you talking about susical and the
musical the weapon of Mass Destruction? No?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
Not this time.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Well I think, yeah, we're on the same page.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
No, BV is called in specifically about lasers, and let's see,
let's see where he's going with this. So BF to you, sir.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Hey, guys, it's BF from Denver, and I was just
listening to some news about lasers shutting down the airport
in al Paso, and ironically on the way home from
moret guests there listening to stuff you should know talk
about lasers and how those work. It'd be cool to
do an episode on lasers, or at least some understanding
of what happened at the Alpasa airport. Remember the whole
(07:49):
like Star Wars program that the Reagan was doing. I
think it would be cool to do a history of
lasers and how they impacted or interacted with the history
of conspiracies and stuff like that. I know that we
use them in everyday use, but I also know that
they're the subject of a lot of movies and cartoons
(08:11):
and the military stuff and just curious what is imaginary
verse reality with lad Thanks guys, Remember it's more punk based.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think he said it's more punk based, which is
a reference to another call Beefy made to us.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Okay, I can't recall I love stuff that's.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Punk when it was on the reality show with the Judge.
I think that's correct. That is correct, Dylan.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yes, like one of those Judged Judy type shows.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
That he like.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
He and his friend pretended to go on and have
a like a dispute. Yeah, I do remember this now.
I do remember this now, and he's it was a
bit of a prank, right, like he's sort of Yeah,
he and his buddy were trying to put one over
on the old the old Judge show.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
They're asking about his band, and he said something about
it's more punk based.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
I think we did say punk based, and I think
we must have thought that was funny. Yeah, And when
we talked about that really quickly before we jump into lasers,
which I'm excited to do. If my little reference earlier
was not landing. When I said Susicle the musical the weapon,
I was, of course referring to the discombobulator, which is
apparently a new fangled contraption that you know, El Presidente
(09:25):
came up with the name for and is super proud of.
And when asked what it does, he said, it discombobulates.
This is a reference to the attack on Venezuela and
using you know, this technology to disrupt all of their stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Well, yeah, the big question still, I think the remains
from that whole thing is was it some form of
directed energy weapon that could not only disable the human beings, right,
the combatants that they were going into Venezuela to basically
attack and disable so they could get access to the
(10:06):
President Maduro. But not only was it that, but it
also seemed to take out their electronics, like so like
an EMP attack of some sort.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, and that's the funny thing is I think some
insiders who were not maybe spoke under you know, anymity
because they were not authorized to speak on the subject,
said something to the effect of it sounds like Trump
maybe confused several weapons with this one mega weapon, the discombobulator,
which is a hilariously Susian name. But you're talking about
(10:39):
directed energy. I mean, what as a laser if not
directed energy? And I was going to ask you too,
Matt Like, there's obviously uses for laser that are more
comms based. You know, you can transmit information through focused light.
Fiber optics is not laser exactly, but it's in the
same wheelhouse. But yeah, it's fascinating stuff. And of course
(11:03):
you can focus a beam of laser enough to cut things.
And yet we don't have energy weapons in the classic
sci fi sense of.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
The word, but we are developing them, and we're focusing
on it because of drone warfare. I think that's really
the impetus to get us two more energy based weapons
that can, let's say, disable an entire swarm of drones
that have explosives on them. They're on their way to
like an aircraft carrier or to abase somewhere. We need
(11:31):
to have the means to disable all of those in
the air so they fall out of the sky. And
that is exactly what the US military, China's military, Russia's military,
and a lot of forces in Europe are focusing on
that kind of thing for that purpose, right, But we
also know they exist before the need to take out drones,
(11:53):
and we also know that they're oh gosh, I think
it was some country just tested and extremely powerful laser weapon.
That's it is meant to be taken around on ships,
on like large boats, right, ships. I can't remember we
talked about.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
This, ringing a bell. Let's see what the doctor Internet
has to say about this. Okay, focused laser weapon. Ships.
We've got here ship with the laser being well, we've
got the US Navy apparently it's deploying testing high energy
ship mounted laser weapons. That's what I remember talking about,
the sixty plus kilowatt Helios high energy laser with integrated
(12:37):
optical dazzler and surveillance, which seems like a real kind
of Borderlands combo type of weapon.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Right.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh yeah, no, you're right. Helius is the thing we
talked about. I'm thinking about a real gun that was
being used by another country's military, and I'm going to
look it up really fast.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Well, there is a Japanese version of this kind of
tech as well, the js Asuka, the Japanese Maritime Self
Defense Force, which was is apparently testing electric drive high
powered lasers as well. And that's his recent as last year.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Oh wow, yeah, okay, that's the one I remember seeing. Yeah, yeah,
Japanese railgun. I'm seeing that from National Defense magazine. But okay,
so we're talking about all kinds of new fangled weaponry
stuff you might see in a sci fi movie, things
you imagine that could even be deployed in space. Right,
These types of energy weapons could be deployed from orbit,
(13:33):
from space take out another spacecraft or satellite or something
like that, or even you know, just fire from a
ship that's floating on the water up to an aircraft.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Sadly, I don't think they go pewpw. I don't think
that's now.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Nope, just a bunch of superheating all of a sudden.
Very focused. So let's jump to this pretty recent story.
It occurred in a little earlier in February of this
Your twenty twenty six, when the El Paso Airport was
shut down abruptly by.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
The Oh sorry, yeah, yeah, FA is the one what
did it? But it was something to do with belief
that it was a cartel drone, which you pointed out
and our discussion about it on the show. Typically aren't
out there to inflict harm. They're more out there to
drop parcels of you know, booty of a contraband.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well, I think the biggest story of this whole thing
is how much confusion was occurring because there were different
stories happening, and it's because of the abrupt nature of
a closure of a pretty big airport like that. I'm
going to jump right now to the Military Times. That's
Military Times dot com. They've got a story here from Thursday,
(14:51):
February twelfth. The title is Pentagon let CBP use anti
drone laser before FAA closed Del Passo Airspace. This is
a report from several different journalists functioning out of there.
I'm just going to read a couple sentences so we
can get an understanding of what this means. It says
the Pentagon allowed US Customs and Border Protection to use
(15:14):
an anti drone laser earlier this week, leading the Federal
Aviation Administration to suddenly close the airspace over El Paso, Texas.
According to some people who spoke, you know, with the
condition of anonymity. It says the confusing arc of events
began as the FAA announced it was shutting down flight
traffic over the city for ten days and it was
(15:38):
going to strand a bunch of people there. The Trump
administration said it stemmed from the FAA and Pentagon working
to halt an incursion by Mexican cartel drones, which is
not an uncommon thing down there. But then again we
get more details, we realize, oh, this was a laser
that was deployed near Fort Bliss that is out there,
(15:59):
and they did not coordinate with the FAA when they
decided to test this laser out. So the FAA just decided, Oh,
we're going to close the airspace if these folks are
gonna be out there testing lasers like this and you know,
not thinking about the safety of all the other stuff
that's in the air, especially passenger flights and things like that.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay, it's just very weird.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yeah, it super Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Matt, do you mind if I pivot momentarily, just since
we're talking about drones, this is something that we haven't
talked about on the show, but I think I've messaged
you and Ben about this separately. This you know, you're
talking about using these lasers to shoot drones out of
the sky, not physically, but to disrupt their comms. Right,
isn't that sort of the deal? So do you know
(16:49):
about this workaround?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Sort of?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Or maybe it's not the workaround that I'm thinking, but
it's something that I was unaware of and that my
buddy Peyton, who was staying with me a couple of
weeks ago, pointed out that in Ukraine there are these
drones that use hardwired fiber optic cables to receive their
data and their columns, and when they do get shot
(17:11):
down or I believe just in the process of having
so many of these, they litter the landscape with what
looks like spider webs. There's just like thousands and thousands
upon thousands of this fiber optic cable laying around and
it's wild looking, and it's something we haven't talked about,
and that really kind of blew me away when I
heard about that. I didn't know if you'd seen anything
(17:33):
about this, or if that's of interest in terms of like,
is that an antidote to being more vulnerable to these
kinds of lasers and is it Obviously it also makes
them vulnerable in other ways because they can get tangled
up in this literal wire. But is it is it
a worthwhile trade off?
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Ooh, that's a tough question. Yet we did I think
we did briefly talk about this, Noel, just for a second,
because I'm remembering it, and I had no I didn't
know this was even a thing until you brought it up.
I think we at least we at least talked about
it for a second because we talked about the countermeasures
for it. Where there are soldiers who are putting up
(18:11):
basically spinning razor wire. So when if you imagine this
spider silky looking fiber optic cable draping across the land
as a drone continues on, this spinning razor wire will
cut the communications. Therefore, you know, the drone loses its
abilities to be at least directly controlled by somebody. The
(18:33):
big thing for me we're talking about this is there's
different technologies that will disrupt different things in a drone's operation.
The laser technology, to my understanding, is not so much
about disrupting communications. It is about like superheating the metal
and the electronics with.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
It, causing it to fritz out, basically like yah overheating
you know computer where that like literally these chips get
very very hot and if they don't have proper ventilation
and cooling, then your whole system can you know, blink out.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yes, But there are other like turret based weapons that
are meant to do the thing you're talking about, where
it would actually just disrupt all the communications and render
the thing inoperable while it's flying through the air pretty high,
so it would theoretically get destroyed as it impacted let's
say the water. If you're if you're dealing with some
navel encounters or something.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Got it. Yeah, and last thing on the fiber stuff,
I just was looking on Reddit. I just wanted I
think this is an interesting perspective. Someone feel the Avocado
posted about this in a response to the images of
just these like fiber cables just littering the landscape in
Ukraine like spider webs. I work in fiber optics. This
is really bad. You really don't want to get a
(19:48):
fiber optic shard of glass into your skin. It never leaves,
and you really don't want it in your bloodstream. I
hope that they can do a structured and organize cleanup,
but I doubt that will happen. Goes on to say,
my worst fear is working at a customer's house when
I am splicing the fiber at the ETP in their garden,
leaving a shard for a cat or a dog to
get an en spa. I did not know that that
(20:09):
was a thing either.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Matt mm mmm, no, thank you.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
I did not know that.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Uh. I've never been around a bunch of fiber optic
cabling or wires, so.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Maybe or when we see it, we're not seeing the
raw versions of it. We're seeing the shielded you know
kind of it's inside wrapped inside of a you know,
a shielded rubber housing.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah, for sure, dang, I know. I got one last
thing on laser before we get out of here for
an ad break.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
If you want to check out the specific laser, I
think you can, and I think we know, but I'm
not one hundred percent sure, so you're gonna have to
do a little research on your own. Here it's a
thing called the Locust, an arrow vironment locust laser directed
energy weapon that the US Army uses. You can head
(21:00):
on over to tw Z dot com. That's the Warzone
dot com. I don't know much about that outlet. I
don't know much about anybody that runs it, but they
are referencing a Reuter's article that is, you know, being
that is being talked about here, and there are a
lot of questions about this locust laser design and what
(21:21):
it can actually do. But if you go here, and
you check it out, it seems intense. Would be a way.
It looks like a turret system that you can mount
to a number of different things, like a huge ATV
or maybe even to a plane or perhaps you know again,
I think it's all army stuff. So it looks like
(21:41):
it's mostly land based applications. At this point, do we
know much about the tech behind this stuff?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Like what's the energy source's just being focused through optics
like through lenses or is it I don't I guess
I just don't understand like how it could be self
contained in that way and be like on a moving
vehicle without a serious wired power supply or some sort
of like high energy you know source.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
It's it's all about the energy that you can throw
into the thing. It's a twenty kilowatt laser at least
according to TWZ. And when you like, if you look
at the system, the laser itself, the thing that you know,
if you've seen a laser pointer before, the thing you
imagine that is just the little tip and where the
(22:30):
laser comes out of. It's relatively small, like it looks
like you could wrap your hands around it. Probably couldn't
pick it up because it's all metal, but it's attached
to a system below it that is I would say
the most bulk of the whole system, the most weight
of the whole system, and that is just the battery
powered system that it's running on. Got it, because you know,
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it can't be just plugged into the wall somewhere to
another larger energy source. It has to be mobile so
it can be effective. So I get starting battery.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, I'm sort of taking for granted the fact that
we have pretty compact batteries now that can like run
a whole car, you know what I mean. So it's
probably gonna be that level of I imagine some sort
of lithium ion situation.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, oh yeah, I'm sure, and I don't know a
lot of the specifics. You can see pictures of different
types of drones that this Locust system has been tested on,
and you can see just how burnt up the plastic
and metal pieces are, like they got lasered out of
the sky. So again, not disabled with this.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Energy za burnt Yeah. Okay, So I was definitely under
selling it in terms of just saying, okay, it's causing
the components to heat up and fritz, like it's it's
actually causing physical melty meltiness to the things.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
Physical meltiness, Babe, exactly. Well, well, Bfi, to your point,
I think it is worth our time to do an
entire laser's episode. I think we've wanted to do this before.
I don't know if it was U Beef, you're somebody
else who called in and said, hey, let's talk more
about lasers after the fires in Hawaii and there were
so many rumors about there being some kind of directed
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energy laser weapon that started those fires again, rumors, there's
some conspiracy theories about that, and then stuff that Marjorie
Taylor Green was talking about.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
All right, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Forgot and all of that, well, that all stuff was
stemming from some of the forest fires and how they began.
A lot of it is pretty easily disputable, I think.
But then some of the weird stuff with like blue
roofs on certain houses and things that would potentially reflect
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a blue laser beam very interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Well, Matt. Most importantly, in terms of anybody's perspective on
all this stuff, I want to know what the insane
clown posse has to say about how laser's work.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Well, they're putting it out there. We know you're listening
ICP folks, So get to us, and what do you
think about these lasers? Well, hey, whylet me take a break.
We'll be right back afterword from our sponsors.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Sounds good, and we have returned. I have some fun
laser talk.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yes, it's so funny.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
If nothing, you know, it's it's still to this day
kind of feels like the most futuristic thing, and yet
we know it's also like a toy that you can
use like with to you know, mess with your cat.
We're finally getting to a place where we have space
lasers on the horizon.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Have you ever had a cat that loves a laser pointer?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Do you think they love it? Or do you think
it's like antagonistic? Is my question? H I don't know.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
The only time it's ever worked for me is on
one of the cats my family had.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Someone just ignore it.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, someone dolion. There's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Why are you doing that? I've never seen your holding
it make a cat nuts. I've never not like totally
make it do a thing.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Wow, man, hah, I just I don't get it. I
had a dog that would go nuts for a laser pointer.
Penny she was like this Tennessee tree hound mix and
oh man, if you shot a laser pointer anywhere near
the floor, she would just go nuts for that thing.
It was so much fun. She loved chasing it.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Penny the Tennessee tree pal Yep, yeah, yeah, Well, Matt,
I've got a fun one that I think we all
saw in the wild when this happened, and I'm just
gonna jump right to it as a message from our
buddy who goes by the name only Nol should have
facial hair, which maybe is like a micro aggression towards
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Ben's mustache, which I think is amazing. But I do
appreciate I do appreciate this, this this reference here. But
I think you know, we can all have facial hair.
We're grown man. If you can grow it, flaunt it.
That's what I say. So jumping in, how's it going,
Hope that Netflix money is good? It's there's no Netflix money.
We do it for the for the love of the game.
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So recently on Brian Taylor Cohen's YouTube channel, which I
quite enjoy, Obama, that's President Barack who saying Obama said
aliens were real. He also said his first question as
president was were there aliens. Let's let's take a pause there,
because he does eventually kind of come back and clarify
(27:30):
his statement. This was part of this is Me Now,
a thing that Brian Taylor Tyler Cohen does on his
video interviews. He does kind of a lightning round. It's
meant to be sort of zippy. You know. He asks
like quick questions and then you know, gets quick responses,
then moves on Obama, does you know say aliens are real?
Speaker 4 (27:49):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I think is all he said. I think the question
was our aliens real? And Obama said yes, but they
don't they they're not being hidden at an Area fifty one.
He even has trouble come up with the name at
the top of his head, Area fifty one, and he said,
unless there's some conspiracy, that's that that went above above
me where they're keeping this from the president. I do
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not think that there are any you know, at evidence
that we have of aliens. So let's start from there. Matt,
do you think that's like a hot hot take? Is
he going for clicks there like it's it's yeah, well, it's.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
It's tough to know. Sounded to me. Sounded to me
like the former president was just doing his thing and
quick and you know, and feeling the tone of the
interview and having some fun with it. But I do
I mean, I know that we just a two parter
on the Legacy Program. And that's not because we thought
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it was a silly thing to talk about. It's because
it's it's a topic that is being taken seriously by
people in high levels of our government, and it is
something that has been you know, the X Files in
nineteen ninety three was talking about this thing, basically, the
Legacy Program that would be kept from the President of
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the United States.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
That is a good point, Matt. That would be the
thing that Obama was referencing, I mean, not him, maybe
not directly what he was referring to, but if there
were a consorted you know, the cover up of some
kind that goes deeper than you know, what we would
think is the highest office in the land, that's what
the Legacy program is referring to.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yeah, so if there is something like that, maybe President
Obama doesn't know about it. Maybe President Trump doesn't know
about it. Maybe you know, when President Clinton allegedly went
in and asked about it, he wasn't actually told the truth.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
M There's no way for us to know, yeah, sort
of the nature of it, Yeah, I mean, you know,
and we've talked about this too, the disclosure of it
all being a little underwhelming when that happened, you know,
or the version of it we got, which was kind
of the government acknowledging yeah, there's some sort of unexplained
aerial phenomenon on the tic TAC video and all of
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that stuff, but never fully going so far as to
acknowledge life on. You know, they're almost more referring to
the technology than they are to like any kind of creature,
wouldn't you say?
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Yeah, Yeah, I was having a conversation about this pretty recently, Noel,
just outside of the space of stuff they want.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
You to know.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
But you talk to people not on the podcasts.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
Crazy, that's messed up, isn't that crazy? But I was
having a conversation about this and trying to even rationalize
some of the things I kind of am starting to
believe about it, Okay, like what and well, just realizing
how woo woo it sounds when you get into the
some of the physics of it, and like holographic somehow
(30:55):
projection from four D or five D space onto read
three dimensional space and what that would look like and
how it would function. The stuff that's over my head
and I don't understand. But some of the stuff that's
talked about in the Age of disclosure and talked about
by a high level physicist as they're trying to explain
to people like me how something like that could function
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if you had extra I may have missed this bit.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
This is from some of the disclosure documents, like talking
about some kind of high level holographic technology. I don't
it's been a minute since we've talked about that, but
I don't know that I got the memo on that one.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I would say it's hinted at as in, perhaps the
things we're experiencing, at least some of them, are not
physical creatures or intelligences or even technology that traveled vast
distances of space, but somehow bridge bridge a gap into
three dimensional space that and a time and space that
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we can experience right with just our sensory systems and
our weapons systems and radar and all that. But actually
it's just some kind of projection into three D space
out outside of our understanding of dimension. I'm butchering it like.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's fascinating Matt, I want to do a little more
digging into that, because I I must have missed missed
that one. Because that's uh. I think that's the interesting
thing about too these kinds of documents, the sort of
the data dump method where it takes a lot of
effort to parse through it all to even find something
worth paying attention to, like we're seeing with the STO files.
But that's that's sort of the nature of some of
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the stuff, like when they want to like bury the
needle in the haystack, and I did not catch that
particular needle, Matt.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well, it's probably because it's a weird one. It doesn't
really make sense and it's so outlanded.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
That's like a thought experiment. That's super cool.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Yeah, it would just it would make more sense to
me rationally than the whole vast distance travel with biological
entities and all that, if it was just something that
was blipping in for one reason or another. And of
course you'd have to apply, you know, our own human
rational thought to why would they do that?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Right?
Speaker 3 (33:11):
And that's where I struggled in this discussion I was having,
like why would something blip in if it was extra dimensional?
Why would it jump in here and check us out
for a second. But then I'm seeing news about time
crystals that are being created. Again. I'm looking at, you know,
theoretical time travel that doesn't have paradoxes. That's like the
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news is talking about right now.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I've been up to my ears in time travel fiction lately.
I just finished the incredible Netflix German language series Dark,
which deals with wormholes and all of those paradoxes, and
you know, people end up being their own grandpa and
stuff through you know, various glitches and time travel and stuff.
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It's such a great show because it has these parallel
time lines that are happening at the same time, and
it's just it's really it's a little hard to follow
at times, and really it rewards your attention. But it's
not one that you can second screen. But that one
and then there was another timey whimy. Well, it's gonna
come back to me. But what about these time cristals.
I know we've talked about it briefly just in passing
(34:18):
on I believe strange news, But can you remind me
a little more about some of the furtherances of these
types of theoretical you know, discussions.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
It's just weird, real science stuff that I again do
not understand. But the idea that, oh how is it
described in the article I was reading today. Imagine you're
pushing your child on a swing, and you're pushing them
once every second. But instead of your child moving up
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and coming back for you to push it every two seconds,
it moves at a rate of two seconds. But it
doesn't lose any of its Oh god, I can't even
do it. I can't even say it right. You're gonna
have to look it up. I don't understand it. But
the whole point of talking about time crystals, though, is
that we're discovering things as a species that is leading
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me closer and closer to this potential thought that at
some point we find a way to time travel and
come back, and that like the things we might be
experiencing really are just us from some far flown future
in the And then it gives you that reasoning of, well,
maybe they're coming back to try and prevent whatever it
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is from happening.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
The micro spoiler alert for a decades old movie like
an Interstellar, Hmmm, well that's the thing that they're experiencing.
They're experiencing this phenomenon that they associate with some sort
of otherworldly being, but it is in fact us from
the future reaching back out to us from the past.
(35:59):
And that's the kind of stuff they they deal with
in dark It is beyond fascinating and again beyond difficult
to trap your head around. Matt, you may also be
referring to this NYU piece or this is a study
from NYU. Scientists discover levitating time crystals that can you
can hold in your hand. Time crystals, a collection of
particles that tick or move back and forth in repeating cycles,
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were first theorized and then discovered about a decade ago.
While scientists have yet to create commercial or industrial applications
for this intriguing form of matter, these crystals hold great
promise for advancing quantum computing and data storage, among other uses.
So maybe the name time crystals is it sounds like
something you would use to power the tartists. It's not
exactly that, but man, it just goes to show how
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little we know.
Speaker 3 (36:45):
How little we don't know. I don't know anything, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Well and neither does Obama. And I love that he
comes back. And you know, when this starts a real
hullabaloo online and people saying, see so Obama said it. Obama.
Obama said there's aliens. He came back on Twitter and said,
I was trying to stick with the spirit of the
speed round, but since it's gotten attention, let me clarify.
And this is sort of the point that I believe
we're both making. Statistically, the universe is so vast that
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the odds are good that there's life out there, but
the distances between solar systems are so great that the
chances we've been visited by aliens is low. And I
saw no evidence during my presidency that extraterrestrials have made
contact with us. Really exclamation mark. Our listener goes on,
I was thinking about this reply, and I don't feel
like it's a walk back. He said a common theory
(37:32):
that aliens probably exist. This doesn't refute what he said
earlier about them existing. He also said he saw no
evidence during his presidency that they have made contact with us.
What he didn't say was if they made contact with
us before his presidency, if they made contact with someone
else during or before his presidency, or if there was
evidence of aliens that did not make contact before or
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during his presidency seen by us or someone else.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Wow, it's about what you don't say.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Huh, it's about the notes not played Matt Well, yes, exactly,
the spice between who is that money to that is
that DMB?
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yes it is.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah. I've got a dear friend of the show who
thinks that one day, speaking of the future, there will
be a reassessment of the Dave Matthews Band that will
determine that they are in fact totally hip, sort of
like what's happened with Steely Dan. I.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I still think they're one of the greatest bands ever
to have watched this planet, but.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
They're you know, unequivocally not cool. All right, I'm sorry,
I'm being a snarb Dylan. What do you think? I
know you're a Steely Dan Man. I am very much
a Steely Dan Man. I am looking at a I
feel like Pitchfork did a Sunday review of a Dave
Matthews Band album recently and gave it a pretty much score,
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so they reassessed it. See, Frank nailed it. Frank nailed it.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Thanks Frank. Don't you know who else nailed it? This
Nole's facial hair character?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Oh big time? What a funny email. Yeah, no, thank you.
Only nol should have facial hair. I really appreciate that
I grew a myself. Geez, was that long enough? I've
got another little blurb. Not that we're like, you know,
it's a podcast. We can do whatever we want. No,
I'm gonna read the blurb. I'm gonna read the blurb.
This is in reference to North Dakota and weird missile
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silos and the pyramid building I think for example. Okay, yeah,
there's actually two two responses to that, Denton, Texas subterranean
missile silos and bunker type stuff. Hi, Ben Matt Nole,
I've been listening to your podcast for years now, and
I'm finally excited to finally see North Dakota being talked about,
even if it's for a missile base. I grew up
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around fifteen miles from Nicoma. It is actually the middle
of nowhere. I went to ed Moore for which wasn't
far away, and I only had four kids in my
graduating class. Jeez, that is small. Not many people are
around in this area. There are many missile bases or
missile base sites. Some people even live in them. The
pyramid shaped building in Nacoma has now been passed around
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to a few people as you were talking on your podcast.
It still has the tall barred wire fence around it
as far as I know. I remember kids trying to
sneak in when I was younger, and that time they
still had At that time, they still had cameras up.
It's definitely a weird place anyway. I was just wanting
to say thank you for mentioning it and talking about
rural North Dakota we aren't talked about very much. Also,
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my family owns a farm up in that area. If
you ever decided to visit Naicoma, I'm sure my parents
would love to meet you. Very very sweet, very kind,
and we would love to do that as well. Yeah,
that's that's interesting. Can you imagine growing up in a
place like that, like, and did you do? Did you
have any weird abandoned buildings or you know, creepy sites
(41:04):
where you grew up that you would like, you know,
explore when you weren't supposed to.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I'm gonna plead the fifth there. In the most part,
I would just say, I would just say there was
an abandoned mental health facility.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
Near where I grew up. I'm sorry it wasn't haunted.
I mean I was.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Positive that it was, and there may have been some
breaks in the fence in a couple of areas to
get into the facility, you know, but probably I don't
think any kids would go in there, you know, looking
for hauntings and things like that. That would be crazy.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
Abandoned psychiatric hospital is very high on my list of
that's a nope from me. Places.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Well, we were curious, okay, I mean somebody might.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
You little devil. I Actually it's funny. Growing up in
my hometown in Augusta, Georgia, I went to a school
called Davidson Fine Arts, and I actually went there the
last I think two years that they were in this
really old, crazy building that turned out to be full
of asbestos, and they moved. They built a brand new building,
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and then I was the last class that was in
the old building and we went to the new building.
And then I went to that building for some years,
but they it's the old one just lay like derelict
for so long, much like the Pont City Market we
have now here in Atlanta that used to be the
old city Hall. I think there was a period where
it was just no attention was paid to it, and
(42:42):
it was just like this crumbling kind of you know,
post apocalyptic kind of you know facade, but the old
Davidson building. I distinctly remember going in there with some
friends late at night because it was either an open
window or whatever, and like all of these desks were
piled up and they were just piles of old textbooks,
and like there was an isolation booth in the orchestra
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room that he was still in there, and like and
then the theater. There was like a little theater that
I think was where most of the asbestos was. All
the seats were covered in tarps, and we went in
there and we heard rustlings and we were young enough
to be super freaked out by that. I'm pretty sure
some unhoused folks had found, you know, a nice warm
spot to you know, set up shop under those tarps.
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But it was freaky as al.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Who wish I was there, I mean that would have
been fun. I mean, uh, don't go in places.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
What is it what you say? Fifth?
Speaker 6 (43:37):
Fifth?
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, yeah, that's it's.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
Well last one, since we're on the you know weird
uh subterranean esque type places.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
This one comes from a buddy by the name of
Jack the Insomniac. Hello, longtime listener, first time caller. I'm
from Texas myself, so it's always fun to hear an
episode that pertains to things nearby. Just listen to the
episode about Denton, Texas. Funnily enough, I grew up and
have lived about an hour outside of Dallas my entire
life and had never heard of that stuff. I don't
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have much to add in regards to the episode itself,
but if you guys ever find yourselves around DFW, I'd
be stoked to invite you out for a beer at
an amazing local brewery. If y'all do that kind of thing, lol,
we do, Thank you. I can also give you all
a tip for some amazing tacos or barbecue in the area.
I'm Hispanic, so it takes a lot for me to
admit tacos are amazing lmao. Hell yeah, I have a
(44:31):
very high bar, as do we. Insomniac Jack. I like
that better than Jack Insomniac. Now, whatever man you called it,
who am I to to revise your incredible nickname. We
love all these things. We're glad that the Denton subterranean
kind of potential city thing resonated with folks. We're just
(44:53):
a fan of that kind of.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
Weird yep tacos and local brewis.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Well, let's go under around cities. Sign me up or
get me out of here, Matt, what do you say?
We take another quick pause for the cause and then
come back with one last I think you got another
listener audio piece.
Speaker 3 (45:16):
Yes we do, and we've returned. We're gonna jump quickly
to a message from Nobody Special. That's their nickname.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Everybody the best part of the show.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
First of all, we completely disagree Nobody Special, but we
are we are going to jump to stop selling yourself short,
please seriously, seriously.
Speaker 2 (45:42):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Hey guys, longtime listener, big fan. You guys can call
me Nobody Special because that's exactly what I am.
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Hard.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
A few years ago, the great state of California put
forward the first comprehensive consumer privacy law, I mean I
states and a lot of other states followed after that
with basically derivative copycat laws. But there's kind of a
trojan horse in all these laws. So each of these
laws give multiple rights. One of them is like the
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right to opt out of the sale and sharing, the
right to delete, the right to correct your information. But
the trojan horse I'm talking about is the right to
know your information. You have the ability to reach out
to data brokers and say, hey, what information.
Speaker 6 (46:28):
Do you have on me?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Oh, who are you selling it to? It might be
good to know for people who are very privacy minded.
The issue with it, though, is that it is a
key for hackers or just data feasts in general, to
go in and get your data from data brokers without
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triggering a data breach, because there's no way for the
data broker to know that it's not you. The government
essentially gave them the keys. Now you might think, oh, well,
the data brokers need to have processes in place to
prevent and filter out this fraud, and that would be
great and everything, But at least in California, the regulations
say that if you're going to deny someone because you
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think they're claim as fraudulent, you have to tell them why.
So the government requires that when you catch a fraudster,
you have to tell them why you think they're a fraudster,
basically giving them the impetus to be able to subvert
whatever mechanisms and filters you had in place to catch
them in the first place. And this may sound conspiratorial,
(47:31):
but I'm telling you right now, I have knowledge of
people who've already fallen victim of this, people who've already
had data brokers leak their information to third parties who
happen to have some precursory data from prior data breaches,
a whole new dearth of information from them, and again
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it's all under the table. Nobody knows it's happening because
the government gave them the mechanism to do this, So
look into it more. I think it's going to become
a bigger problem in the future because ultimately, when you
can have basically targeted data harvesting and data theft of individuals,
maybe even high value individuals, without actually having to breach
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a system because the government gave you basically the door
and the keys to do it, privacy is an illusion. Guys,
have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
Oh nobody's special my left foot. That was terrifying and phenomenal.
I mean, what insights because I think we Matt, we
talked recently about this whole right to be forgotten thing
or like, you know, how do you reach out and
find out what they've got on you? Is there a
method for doing that, And I think I pose the question,
(48:44):
you know, of what does that look like? And I
don't know that we got there. But this answers that.
But is he saying that by doing the people can
do this on your behalf, pretending to be you, and
then that gives them access to more data? I think
I'm a confused.
Speaker 3 (49:01):
Okay, you'll have to correct me here if if I'm
getting this wrong. Nobody special. But my understanding is there
have been so many data breaches right.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
Over that you've been I've been in multiple Oh.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Yeah, oh yeah, I think we all have at this point.
Literally there have been so many from so many different services,
you know, technology companies, government entities, everything. Yes, yeah, but
you take some of that information that's already been leaked
that let's say you've gotten access to somehow as a
bad actor. You use that information to use this new
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program under let's say the California Consumer Privacy Act of
twenty eighteen, and you attempt to get the information from
some data broker about let's say Matt or No or
Dylan or you.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Or by getting that information, you're getting the.
Speaker 3 (49:49):
Data NOK by attempting to get that data. If let's
say that data broker senses that something is wrong in
the force here, they say, hey, you, we think you're
a fraudster, and here's why, and they have to tell
you via this law. Here's why. So now you have
that information, this is why they thought you were not
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really Matt Frederick, you were somebody else.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
So it helps them with their their play, It helps
them with their their long con Yes, and you.
Speaker 3 (50:19):
Do it as many times as you need, to learn
as much information as you need to until it finally
goes through.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
I totally missed that point. They're they're learning more and
more little tips and tricks on how to cheat the system.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
Yes, that's at least what nobody special is saying.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
I think that's one hundred percent what he's saying. We
are only in California. At least he was saying that this,
this this particular thing was in California.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
Well, the first law in the US for this kind
of thing happened in California. But since then, you've got
similar laws in Virginia, Colorado, Connecticut, Iowa, India. I mean
just there are a bunch of different states now that
are doing this, and you know the countries that are
really leading the charge in the stuff and have for
(51:03):
a long time. Places out in the UK, countries in Europe,
a lot of places like that are having a lot
more consumer protection laws around, you know, data privacy and
things like that. But we are attempting, the US is
attempting to do that state by state. It's just we've
got a lot to learn still, and I think it
would be in our best interest, in everybody's best interest,
(51:23):
to maybe go over the current state of things in
the US when it comes to this stuff, but in
a larger context, so a larger episode.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Well, it's another one of those like technology always outpaces
legislation situations, and this is one that really affects US.
I don't know about you, Matt, but like my phone
rings ten times a day, and I've got like a
thing where I've learned making the phone screen the calls.
But it's all this scam saying that I've got access
to some crazy loan and it's all via phone bots,
(51:55):
and I finally figured out how to screen it so
it doesn't really bother me all the time. They come
like sometimes five in our row, and so I guess
my phone number was in one of these breaches. Thankfully,
I don't seem to be experiencing any other knock on
consequences of this stuff, but that to me is the biggest, Like, Okay,
this is definitely as a result of my stuff being
out there to some degree.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
Yeah, on my end, I would just say it is
time for me to get a new phone number. I
think it is for me too, for me too, come
in new phone number on the way, same reasons.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yikes.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
Speaking of new things, our show is now on Netflix
twice a week, and things are changing up just a
little bit on our end of how we do things,
and that's why Fuzzy wrote into us. Just notice some changes.
So let's let's hear from Fuzzy quickly and let us
get you some answers and then we'll get out of here.
So let's jump to Fuzzy.
Speaker 6 (52:51):
Hey, guys, I hope FA's okay with y'all. Y'all have
not posted a new video in a couple of weeks
on YouTube, and uh that that's a little concerning, because
that's how I got to listen to y'all. Uh. I
don't know if it's a a business problem or whether
(53:12):
somebody's had some sort of emergency or something. I hope
there's I hope it's planned and it's not something that y'all,
you know, a hiccup of some sort, you know. I
hope there's something like everybody wanted to go on vacation
at the same time or something. But uh, I wish
y'all well, regardless of what's going on, y'all take care,
(53:37):
have fun, and uh, well, we'll see y'all further down
the road.
Speaker 4 (53:42):
Right.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
It's fuzzy referring to like YouTube clips or something that
we're using.
Speaker 3 (53:47):
We used to know this more regularly. Uh, if if
you head on over to YouTube dot com slash conspiracy Stuff,
you will see that the last video they got posted
there that is just the video is just the audio
of a podcast.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
Oh, we were doing that, I guess. I totally didn't
even clock that we were still doing that. That's why
I was confusing.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Well, the last one posted was our interview with Toby
Ball for Rip Current Season two, and that was three
weeks ago as we record on February eighteenth.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
So I had no idea we were still doing that.
But oh, we're doing something different now, and it's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yes, we're doing something different, and we are currently unsure
of the future of our YouTube channel, like what's going
to be posted there or not, but for sure, twice
a week you can get our primary episodes on Netflix.
So you have a Netflix account, you can head over
there and search for stuff they don't want you to know,
(54:45):
or just stuff you'll find us, and you can watch
those or listen to them however you want to consume them.
There will be video of our good faces.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
We did a good job, well we didn't. I mean,
we worked with our video folks, Jordan and Mark to
get some fun little sets going in our various studios
and situations and got some cool cameras and some lighting
and really went a long way to make sure each
of our frames shows off our personality. So if you
ever want to see what our mugs look like talking
(55:14):
and let our little you know, nests look like, that's
the way to do it.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Yeah, and I believe it's JJ that is editing the videos,
working alongside our most excellent and prestigious U Dylan Fagan
to create both the video and audio versions of the show.
But so that's one way. The other way is through
like Apple Podcasts, Spotify and anywhere else that gets our
(55:40):
RSS feed just for the audio podcast. You can still
hear five episodes a week every week that way, so
just you know, you just got to find them. Unfortunately,
it is annoying if they're not coming out on YouTube
like this, because at least some people saw it on YouTube,
just like you, Fuzzy, but I don't. I don't, it's all.
(56:02):
It's not many, y'all. It's like nine hundred views on YouTube,
one point five k views on YouTube, which is just
to be honest, y'all, nothing compared to how other people
are consuming the stuff.
Speaker 2 (56:14):
Well, yeah, it's funny. Like there's a podcast I really
love called The Weekly Planet. It's these lovely Australian fellows
talking about nerd stuff, and I discovered them on YouTube
as a as like an audio podcast where the video
is just like a graphic and for whatever reason, I
continue to listen to them on YouTube, like I'm just
a creature of habit in that way. So I'm with you, Fuzzy.
(56:37):
I totally understand. And if all of a sudden, Weekly
Planets stop putting out new episodes on YouTube, I'd probably
be a little concerned too, and I'd for whatever reason,
I listened to all my other stuff on Apple podcasts
but not The Weekly Planet, because I found it on
that in that environment, and that is where I continue
to consume it. Oh and if you are consuming us
(56:57):
on any of those streamers of note, the Spotify's, the
Apple Podcast, specifically Apple Podcast, we love it. If you
could leave us a cool review and do check us
out on Netflix. It's a fun thing that we're doing
and we're enjoying it.
Speaker 3 (57:09):
I'm enjoying it absolutely right to Bob Netflix whoever runs
that place, and say stuff they don't want you to know.
Speaker 2 (57:18):
So yay, that's all.
Speaker 3 (57:20):
I think.
Speaker 2 (57:20):
That's all you have to put, so you gotta put it.
They know us there. They send us headphones, by the way,
the most gorgeous gift wrapping I've ever seen, Like do
they have a whole division over at Netflix. That's just
like expert gift wraps, gift wrappers like they do at
Barnes and Noble around the holidays. I mean the cornering
(57:41):
on it. My god, ah, custom Netflix ribbons. Look, we're
not that fancy, y'all. We're super excited just to be
in the room and to be working with Netflix. It's
super fun. But I was blown away by that little
nifty gifty of some so No's headphones they sent us.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
They were wonderful. It's an amazing gift we appreciated.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
Netflix.
Speaker 3 (57:59):
Did you see the recent news about forever chemicals and
other really dangerous cancer causing and endocrine disrupting chemicals that
are in most, especially high end headphones.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Jesus, that's where you're pivoting to Matt. We're talking about
a lovely gesture from a giant corporation.
Speaker 3 (58:16):
Netflix didn't know.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
I'm where is it in the padding? I imagine it's
in the padding.
Speaker 3 (58:21):
I don't know. It's just supposed to be really dangerous.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
But it must be in the squishy padding. I almost
guarantee that's the kind of place that stuff like that
would be.
Speaker 4 (58:30):
Like.
Speaker 2 (58:31):
I know, I've heard of yoga matte material in the
past being carcinogenic. So anytime you get like a squishy,
porous kind of substance like that, I think that maybe
it requires some deadly substances from time to time. You
think they would have figure that out.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
I know. Yeah, Hey, well, at least you can hear
stuff they don't want you to know on Netflix.
Speaker 2 (58:52):
Until your brains melt inside of your skull from Forever chemicals.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
Exactly. Well, hey, that's all we've got today. Thank you
so much for hanging out with us. If you want
to get in contact with us, there are many ways
you can do so.
Speaker 2 (59:04):
That's right. You can find us on your social media
platform of choice at the Hammle Conspiracy Stuff or Conspiracy
Stuff Show Believe. There's also another way.
Speaker 3 (59:13):
Oh yes, our number one eight to three three std
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Just give it a call, turn the letters into numbers,
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Give yourself a cool nickname and let us know if
we can use your name and message on one of
these listener mail episodes. If you want to tell us
(59:33):
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your mouth, why not instead send us an email.
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