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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A
production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my
name is Nola.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know now. In between our episodes,
we always do strange news segment. We always do a
(00:51):
listener mail segment. If you are tuning in tonight, then
welcome officially to believe it or not. April second, guys,
it's April second right now as people are hearing this.
We're recording it on March twenty fifth, but let's not
ruin the magic.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
How do you feel about corporate April Fools pranks? I
think I think I'm sick of them.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
The best I find them, I find April Fools in
the United States a bit mean spirited, and I'm still, guys,
I'm still taking it on the chin from a prank
I did with our buddy Josh Clark. I think that's
the reason Chuck Bryant is still mad at me from.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Stuff you should do well.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Chuck got his just desserts, I suppose, or at least
turn about being fair play. When he had back in
the movie Crush Days, he had Kevin Pollock on an
episode pretending to be Christopher walkin for an entire interview
and it was an April Fools prank and a lot
of listeners did not cot into that one bit.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Just thing about the old school day is like the
BBC doing the spaghetti tree.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
That's fun, it's wholesome, it's helpful, it's a it's a
little how's your uncle kind of joke, and.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, and there is no humor like Gallows humor there,
I would say, there is no humor like wholesome humor.
Who doesn't love a good joke. We're gonna talk about
things like one mood to rule them all right, We're
gonna talk about telepathy. We're gonna talk about McCastle and connections.
(02:37):
Because we're still on the story, folks. We're also going
to hear from some fellow conspiracy realists talking about hype Maxine.
We're also going to hear about sleep paralysis. Uh what
say ye, gentlemen. Before we begin tonight's program, we catch
(02:58):
up with some of the most important breaking news in
all of the Western world.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Are rude vegas? What's going on with them?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Grocery prices are high, housing is more expensive than ever
in gas prices, well, we don't have to tell you
that they're only going up lately. With all this uncertainty
in the world. Don't you wish there was one product
that could do what I do? Well, you might be
surprised to learn that there is the rude beiga. You
can eat it, you can use it instead.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Of wooden bricks, and you can put some of them
in your guests due we haven't tried to have.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
The three options we just mentioned yet, but we bought
this ad space yesterday and we needed something topical. Let's
face it, you dig rudabagas and rudebegas dig you. Actually,
we're not sure if rudabagas are sentient yet. Let me
try a different tagline.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Rude begas. We don't know much about them. Paid for
by the National Rudebaker Council.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Left one out though, you ever tried sticking a rutebegga
and someone's tailpipe.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
They're too big, that's true. Can I make a confession? Sure,
I've never seen a rutabaga? Oh I don't know what.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Well?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Is it like a radish? Is it like a beat?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Kind of?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's its own thing? Okay, which sounds like I'm advertising
David S Pumpkins.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
It's a secret.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Third thing is this. It's insides are this distinctly yellowish
kind of hue. But it looks like it's I don't know,
it's just special. And we recommend you go out and
dig your own root of begas as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, there's a bit of parson to it, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
See that's what I'm picturing every time I say here rudebega,
I picture parsonip And that's just not the same.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's smell.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Its smells similar, and the smell is distinct but not
Durian level. And I've gotta tell you, Tennessee, Uh, you
have again outdone yourself. I was so tempted to freestyle
on that beat. Did you make that beat?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And uh?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
High salute for the whisper there that rude bega whisper.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
I didn't make the beat, but if you want the
instrumental ben. We can go, we can long.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
Loud.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, guys, have we ever done anything with rut of bacon,
egg and cheese sandwich or use are great?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
That's greatgel bites great, Matt, there you got another one.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
These are great.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Those are my two Ruda bacon, egg and cheese Rudaba.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Beautiful Ruda boy vegas. There we go, there we go. Yeah,
all right, Uh, we're loving the energy here. We are
so thankful that you all have tuned in. We're gonna
pause for a word from our spotnswers and then, guys,
(06:02):
what say we get back to one moved to rule
them all? And we have returned. We have some breaking
news courtesy of our Instagram pal j Mo Days, who
says Peter Teel is betting big on a two billion
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US dollar AI cow caller startup powered by calgorithms.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Okay, these headlines are getting wait let me finish, sud
Jesus Christ and investors are fighting to get it. I
stand by what I said. He just escalated it one
one click further into the absurdity.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Abyss my favorite type of comedy.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Only it were comedy anymore.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
So.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Our pal j has an issue with this story.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
You guys.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
He's saying, you start with cows, you push a transhuman
agenda and enslave people in smart cities. It's a classic
reptilian kind of thing to do. Could this be a
proof of concept? In Jay's opinion, it seems like this
tech has a lot of good potential if used you maanly,
(07:25):
but it raises some eyebrows when it is Peter Teele
pulling the strings. I'm in love with the word calgarithm.
I never encountered it before. It's all the big state
surveillance we're talking about applied to the livestock industry.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I don't quite understand the why of it.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah. The idea is that you could take these solar
powered callers made by a New Zealand based company called
Halter and Halter will create virtual fences for the cattle
that wear these collars, similar to the shock callers that
(08:14):
you see people putting on their doggos, got.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
It, got It, and the ones that will soon be
putting on ice detainees.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
That's the idea, that's the fear, and I think it's
because of the teal connection. So the callers connect to
a farmer's phone through an app. So if you are
a rancher, you can look at not just the location
of your herd, but you can look at the individual
health metrics of a cow, of a living thing, and
(08:47):
then you can remotely guide them using they're calling it vibrations,
but I think they'll move up to shot cues pretty soon,
as well as audio cues from the device. So let's
imagine we're all cattle in some range, right, and all
of a sudden, we're wandering too far away from you know,
(09:11):
our hauler or our valley, and we hear something that
sounds like a whistle, and then right around our neck
we feel a shock. This is, by the way, brought
to you by the Founder's Fund, which Peter Tool created.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, it's right, those things that does feel like there's
a there's a there's a next step for it. It's
I'm sure most farmers would say this sounds great, like
like really cool tech that could be incredibly useful.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Saving uh time. Right, you don't have to buy a
sheep dog at this point. If it works, do something
about cattle rustling. It's like having a it's like having
an air tag on your whole herd.
Speaker 9 (09:56):
It is.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It is exactly like that. Uh do you guys think
that Jay and I are being alarmist by seeing this
going toward what you call nol an inevitable next step?
Do we see a world where people have something like
a collar on their person other than obviously cell phones.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, it's gonna see. We already have it. It's just
handheld because I'm imagining the little thing and then all
this like, oh, we need to do something else, Oh
we need to go here, Oh I need to check
my something. You know.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Haptics, I think is what they call some of that stuff,
at least the vibration version of it, that can be
very influential. I also picture. I mean, this seems like
the third secret third step would be an implant of
some sort. I mean, it all does feel like there's
the only reason this stuff maybe doesn't exist yet is
because of limitations of technology and perhaps optics. But we
(10:53):
are entering a society in a world where thing optics
and you know, the presentation or the appearance of honoring
human rights matters less and less. So I don't see
a barrier towards rolling this out for say, detainees, prisoners, etc.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Right, especially with the erosion of democracy. Jay, I'm not
sure if that's where you wanted us to take it,
but as we pointed out, that is inevitably where this
kind of technology will go. If you figure out a function,
you learn the applications afterward. Let us know, folks, what
(11:31):
you think about this, especially if you work in the
livestock industry. We're going to move on quickly to some
Spotify comments. We have not done this on listener mail previously,
but just to be transparent, folks, we are very excited
about various platforms allowing old school YouTube style comments, and
(11:58):
we do read the comments on our episodes posted on Spotify.
We got one, you guys, from Sasha. Sasha is commenting
on our episode Assault and Murder, the Grand Conspiracy of
Military cover Ups. We remember that one. It's pretty recent, right,
(12:18):
I think it came out last week.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't have Spotify, so I can't see the comments,
but it's okay, Sosia. I would read them if I
could see them.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's okay, Matt, Sasha and I are here for you.
Sasha says, if Russia and Ukraine are secretly in bed
and the split was fake so Russia could get spies,
into other countries and NATO easier. Why does Russia use
the Mormon religion to recruit non traditional members of the
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military and intelligence community with top secret or better clearances.
I guess they're playing, says Sasha. All then when it
comes to stealing secrets from the United States, here's why
we're we're putting a spotlight on you. Sasha. First, you
(13:12):
are absolutely correct. Here in the United States intel agencies
and the military absolutely love folks who come from the
Latter Day Saints religion. I believe we talked about this
a little bit earlier, maybe off air, maybe on air.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
What is the reasoning there?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
The reasoning there would be. First, people who are part
of the LDS community or belief system are going to
tend not to have some of the big detractors that
you look for in an agent. Right, They're not gonna
They're gonna tend not to have financial stuff like debt
(14:02):
or gambling problems. They're going to tend not to have
substance abuse problems. They are going to tend to speak
obscure languages that most Americans do not speak, which makes
them perfect interesting. Yeah, because you got to go on
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that mission for two years.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, and then you know, the capacity to have faith
in the Golden Tablet story maybe which to sell other stories.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Excellent observation they're I do have to ask, though, would
would Russian intelligence be able to really bring in LDS
folks to the fold. Do we think that's possible?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Well, I mean, I don't know. They're certainly we know
they're trying to get folks to defect from the United
States in terms of like renouncing citizenship and offering incentives
or things like that. So I think maybe incentives tailored
to that community could be successful. They seem pretty pretty
good at convincing folks.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I don't know. I don't know enough about the community
to know what those incentives would be like. It would
be maybe an easy low blow to talk about polygamy
and stuff, but we know that's not a thing. You know,
it is very much renounced within that community.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
So yeah, it's it's not mainstreamed anymore in Latter day Saints. However,
it kind of reminds me of the great to do
that occurred when John F. Kennedy became the first Catholic
US president. Right, there were a lot of people at
the time contemporary critics who were saying, we can't trust
(15:55):
this guy. He doesn't follow what's best for the US.
He follows what's best for the Vatican, which I think
was very discriminatory and prejudiced. I don't know is Russia
scooping up Mormon operatives.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
There's no way to know.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Well, we do know that, in step with these accusations,
the Russian government is currently recommending women who do not
have or do not want children to go see psychologist.
I think we all caught that one. Oh man, oh gosh,
(16:38):
we're gonna pickle. We're going to keep this short. We
did confirm that UCSD professors wanted money to research telepathy.
The disgraced finance here and proven child trafficker Jeffrey Epstein
did support them with a fifty thousand dollars that goes
(17:01):
to uc San Diego scientists. We looked into this a
little bit, and we're pretty sure that these professors did
not participate in the darker side of Epstein's empire, but
they wanted to learn about telepathy and they needed money.
(17:25):
Since we're audio here, Matt just made the most awesome
to narrow face.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I certainly wasn't purposeful. If you want to learn about telepathy,
and there's tests to be done. I suppose you need
money for those, and hey, if you got the money,
let's put it into telepathy. Let's stop putting all our
money into stuff like I don't own nation building and
(17:51):
oil extraction and all this other stuff. Let's just focus
on telepathy and see where, see how far we can
take this thing.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, you know, let's say, hey, what's wrong with asking questions?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's the mission of the show. Turns out that back
in twenty ten they started messing with this guy, and
by twenty ten he had already become a convicted sex criminal.
So a little bit curious or and curious or we
(18:28):
can't wait to hear your thoughts. We'll keep this one brief.
We're going to pause for a word from our sponsor.
We'll be back, assuming that we don't get shot collared
over the break, And we're.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Back with a handful of relatively shorty short messages from
some excellent conspiracy realists out there. You too can be
among that number if you just write to us a
conspiracy at iHeartRadio. Here is one from the Sandman talking
about height maxing, and again, that's not right that's not.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Definitely what this is. We're gonna talk.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
About that a little more in another listener mail segment
coming up, but it ain't that far off, guys. There
actually is an upper limit to height requirement for military service.
Six foot eight inches is the max. The reason is
that people taller than this don't easily fit into military
transport platforms. They're too big. If the Trump kid is six',
(19:31):
nine he is actually too. Tall we're talking about Young,
baron young bt because you, know the moment that talk
of reinstituting the, draft you, know started making the. Rounds of,
course you've got folks out there saying we'll send Young
baron out to the front lines as, well because we
certainly do in other, countries and this one is you,
(19:53):
know certainly in this one as. Well have a history
of even, royals for, example LIKE i Think Prince harry
did some tours In. Afghanistan you, know of, course they're
probably isolated and they're not exactly on the front, lines
but they are there and it is something that other
places seem to. Value And i'm certain that there are
administrations prior that have as. Well but it's a little
(20:14):
tough to take that kind of. Stuff, seriously when the
president himself was insulated from that kind of service for
some pretty bone spurious. Reasons nice, Anyway so, Continuing i'm
not defending. Him he's actually disqualified at that. Height feel
free to use this. Email please refer to me as The.
Sandman we done did. That thanks To. Sandman it's gonna
(20:35):
leave it at. That nothing only much to. SAY i
didn't know about the height, Requirement. MATT i think you've
got something to.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
ADD i just have one thing to. SHAY i don't
know if we saw my.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Comments you're talking, About, oh different, guys they sound very.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Similar he just he went, on who is he talking
With Peers? MORGAN i think he. Was he was looking
all scraggly with his beard and just, Said baird needs
to get on the front. Line that's really, Good jesse the.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Body but you know who? Else i'm telling you that
my pillow guy sounds very similar to. THAT i think
they it'd be fun to see them do a grizzle. Off,
okay moving on to the next. One, here we've got
one From. Flounder That's flounder with the pH WHICH i, love,
gentlemen and this is very much in line with something
(21:26):
that we just talked about on our Recent Strange news,
Episode SO i think it's appropriate to bring up. HERE
i consume fifty percent of my media from outside THE,
us BECAUSE i don't hear about quite as much from
OUR us based. Media here's a good. One one of
the exact articles that we just referenced in our Previous
Strange news, episode oil traders bet millions minutes Before Trump's iran.
(21:49):
Talks it's my, belief Says, flounder that both The epstein
files and our current leaders quickly shifting international snaff foos
are all just market influencing. Moves we'll get back to
that one more quick. Question with all the back and
forth between our elected officials regarding immigration, enforcement this is
(22:10):
something that came up for us recently as, well somewhat.
Close how come no one is talking about fixing the
immigration system with impending population, decline our capitalist society must
have workers and consumers to. Continue it seems that both
sides of the aisle would identify streamlining the immigration system
as a. Priority the fact THAT i don't hear any
(22:31):
pundit speaking to this fact raises alarms in my. Head
the silence is. Deafening please feel free to use any
of my comments on the show. Flounder, okay let's go
back to the market manipulation stuff real. Quick, yes maybe
The epstein stuff to a lesser, degree but there's always
a little bit of that. Mixed then that's Where i'm
that's WHERE i sit on. It, guys what do you THINK.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I see it as functioning in that, way whether or
not it is, purposeful, right it is manipulating markets by
timing post so on truth social just you, know at
the beginning of a, weekend or at the tail end
of a, weekend or a post right as the markets
are about to open, up or as they. Open and
(23:13):
we're not talking about little tiny announcements or something we're
talking about we're talking about utilizing a social media account
to literally move. Markets and that's what it's. Doing, again
whether or not that's what it's meant to be.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Doing And i'm not in the position of giving much
benefit of the doubt where that's, concerned. UNFORTUNATELY I, mean
we have a president with a history of working the
system to his benefit and to the benefits of those you,
know who he does business, With SO i JUST i
don't think IT'S i think it's completely obvious that that's what's,
happening AND i just don't think they're even trying to hide.
(23:50):
It and it's really sad that there are very few
opportunities to seek any kind, of you, know consequences for
this this type of. BEHAVIOR i just don't know. That
it's again another one of those, things like you said
on the past the Listener mail, episode it's just a
matter of decorum and people in the past having not done,
That and it just shows how toothless a lot of
(24:11):
the regulations in place are to prevent this kind of.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Thing does it remind, you guys of the pump and
dump kind of stuff with like game stalk and all
of those other, weird little obscure stocks to get celebrities.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Get in trouble for pumping and, dumping for like going
online and, say HEY i got this, THING i got
this new. Coin they get yelled at it least at
least they get, canceled.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
They get in court of public opinion. Trouble and as
we talk about in UH i think previous Listener mail,
segment we we see that there are increasingly blatant examples
of rules for the and not for. Me and to your,
point here flounder the market influencing not to be two
(25:02):
Black monday murders about. It this stuff has happened across
administrations since before seventeen seventy, six so back in the old,
days you, know seventeen eighteen, hundreds back when you had
things like The Whig, Party Whig. Whig they were rigging
the game to the best of their abilities as, well
(25:25):
because the game is.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Crooked, yeah no it, is and it always has been for.
Sure and again just to make clear once again that
we are on either side of this argument in terms
of like who the ultimate good guys, are because everyone's
everyone's playing in the, mud everyone's benefiting from this kind of,
stuff and to your, point been the historical precedent for
this kind of thing is as clear as. Day but
(25:47):
they used to do a better job of hiding it
or at least try to have some kind of optics
that they could fall back. On now it just seems
like they just don't even, care to the point where
it's just so blatantly in your. Face this stuff is,
happening and there really isn't much you can do about,
it and they're almost rubbing it in your, face which
is bothersome to say the least.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
M.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Hm so we'll leave that one and have another quick
short heat to wrap this one. Up talking about sleep
paralysis is we used to be a real pet topic for,
us talking about sleep, paralysis demons and hallucinations and like
night terrors and. Stuff AND i just think this is
we always love hearing a real life perspective on folks
(26:31):
that are dealing with this this horrific. Condition maybe it's
the wrong, word but set of circumstances that can can
be incredibly terrifying and you, know crippling and a real
and a real barricade for people getting proper sleep and
leaving leading productive. Lives so this one comes From. Sean
i'm just gonna call Them.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Sean.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Gentlemen i'm not that great at looking at my, email
so if you, RESPOND i probably will never see. It, well,
hey it would seem that you listen to your, podcast
so we're going to respond right. Here that being, SAID
i have no idea Why i'm writing this. EMAIL i
never do this sort of, thing But i've been watching
your guys podcast On. Netflix. Welcome we love A netflix convert,
ee and for some reason just have the impulse to write.
This SO i have had sleep PARALYSIS i don't, know
(27:16):
maybe half a dozen times in my, life and every
time it's the same, thing and it is absolutely, frightening
and it sucks so bad because when it, happens you
are aware in a state where you would feel like you're,
awake except your body can't. Move but you can sense
these entities around. You i'm not certain if you can
actually see them. PHYSICALLY i can't specifically. Recall i'm pretty
(27:37):
sure you, can't, though but you can one hundred percent sense.
Them you know that there are there is evil wrapped
up in these. Entities you have a strong sense of,
that and it sort, of you, know clusters around you
and fills you with an extreme sensation of fright and
(28:00):
you have no idea what these entities. Want and it's
absolutely the most terrifying thing that has ever happened to
me in my. Life when it's happening to, me in
order to get out of, IT i basically would have
to in my own, mind fight my body to move
with every bit of energy THAT i, had just to
shake my arm for, example Like i'm, handcuffed are in.
(28:23):
Shackles this is all happening from within my. Mind, also
it's a sense of having some kind of memory of
how to move and kind of trying to actualize that
these events only last maybe thirty seconds at, most and
perhaps after the last ten seconds of trying to fight
(28:44):
myself to move or wake, UP i then only. Then
it's very similar to the way we kind of wake
up and recall a dream more immediately connected to waking,
up and then it kind, of you, know it fades
away as the day goes. On ask, myself what just?
Happened all? RIGHT i have many other weird things throughout
my life that we all out of body, experiences seeing
(29:07):
psychics and getting results from that that are just quite.
Insane but for NOW i want to say that with complete,
certainty there is something else to our. REALITY i don't
know what it, is but it is an absolute certainty
as far AS i am. Concerned Enjoy sean.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Right there with. You.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Sean definitely think there's stuff lurking in the crevices out
there in the, dark As ben would, say and appreciate
the direct experiential data around what it feels like to
fight off these bouts of sleep.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Paralysis, dude this stuff is so fascinating to. Me what
was that documentary called that came.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Out, Yeah i've honestly been putting off watching it because
it just freaks me.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Out, well that's one of the big conceits of sleep.
Paralysis once you think about, it or you're looking at
examples of it and all of that other. Stuff according
to the, stories it's much more likely to happen to
you because your, mind you, know is primed for it
in a VERY nlp kind of. WAY i Think i've
(30:12):
had it, before BUT i just, personally, GUYS i don't
know That i've had an experience that was. FRIGHTENING i
think it's more like a kind of a weird a weird.
Dream this is a little, creepy but just DOESN'T i
never thought there was actually some. PRESENCE i just haven't
experienced it that intensely.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
YET i, Mean i've certainly had night, terrors BUT i
think the real, kicker or the differentiator between something like
that and sleep paralysis is that locked in, sensation that
feeling of being, awake being aware you're, awake but also
feeling like you're still, dreaming and then losing control of
your faculties in that, way WHICH i think we all
(30:52):
know without ever having to have experienced. It how terrifying
something like that might. Be if you've ever even been
injured and all of a, sudden like you could lift your.
Arm it is a real sense of being out of.
Control we take for granted the fact that we, can you, know,
ambulate and having that disappear would even for a, MOMENT
i think would be a real vulnerability and just a
(31:14):
real sense of like being completely out of.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Control i've actually phausis many. Times if it adds, anything, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Let's go to. You have you experienced.
Speaker 8 (31:26):
THAT i used to experience that a lot of a. Kid,
no it's usually once a. Year but at some POINT
i started understanding what was going on a little bit.
Better usually it's like a lot of nightmares can be
set on by having a lot of sugar before, bed
SO i kind of realized that that was a thing
that was causing. Them but one TIME i had a
(31:48):
his finals week in, college and AFTER i got done
with my last, FINAL i ate about six doughnuts in
fifteen minutes and went to bed and woke up paralyzed
BY i can see a small child in my. Room,
no and what was at that, MOMENT i was, like
this isn't?
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Real but it's.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Annoying was the was the Small child Wool.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Dylan it was.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Pretty, ghostly you, know just standing there like you, know
it was, Concerning BUT i also understood in that moment
for the first, time this isn't. Real BUT i gotta
just white knuckle.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
It it is one of those tropes from like you
know It Stephen king Or nightmare On Elm, street where
like the moment you have to tell yourself this isn't,
real it doesn't, real and then they lose the. Power
but the commonalities of the experiences that folks have and these,
entities that's the part that makes me really messes me. Up,
Man like the Machine elves AND dmt experience is, like
(32:46):
is this a thing that is peaking through the? Veil
because that's what it feels like to.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Me that's WHAT i wanted to ask, You, dylan you've
got this. Child were there any recurring characters or shapes
or anything like.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
That WHEN i was, younger it used to be like
breathing on my neck that was. Awful But i've seen
The Small child a couple times and as part of
sleep paralysis.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And, dylan before we move, ON i think IF i
could ask on behalf of the. Audience you said it
happens about once a. Year, now is it around the
same time every year or is it just a random
day out of every three?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Sixties so is it the birthday Cake.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
Dylan let's, see the last TIME i happened was about
a month, ago AND i had been To, BUCkies shout
out To, bunkies and been to the candy wall and
eating a lot of, candy stayed up late a bachelor,
party went to, bed and it, happened and my friend
had to shake me. Awake so that was a fun
one for a thirty seven year old man for a.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Moment for a, Moment, TENNESSEE i SWEAR i thought you
said my friend had to shave me, awake which is
an entirely, difference but an excellent.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Pronk well that set for my segment here on Today's
Listener mail Episode huge thanks to The, Sandman flounder And.
Sean stay a quick break and then we'll be back
with the final. Segment today's episode coming to us from Mister.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Matt and we've returned to Old maddie one Gear. Frederick
guess What we're going back to. McCasland here we. Go
we got a message from an anonymous so and so
called us On march twenty, fourth just, yesterday as we
(34:40):
were recording. This on the twenty, fifth and just after
we put out Our Strange news episode where we talked
About general McCasland and how he is, missing we talked
about one other person in, there person Named Monica Reza.
Jacinto this message is letting us know that the there
may be some other people that we should be. CONSIDERING
(35:03):
i believe it was the Next Strange news episode that
we talked About Major General John, rossy just for a
moment to discuss that, person as he is also mentioned
in some of the. Reporting this anonymous person is saying
there are several other individuals we need to look. Into
we are not going to have time to do all
the digging that this voicemail requires of, us but we
(35:27):
won't be able to do it. Today but this is
stuff that we can look, into and we can all
independently check this stuff. Out so you're encouraged in this
moment to write down proper nouns that you're going to
be hearing and do a little digging. Yourself, Second, yes
for this one yes, Segment here we go from Anonymous.
Speaker 9 (35:49):
I'm going to remain anonymous on this, one And i'm
gonna ask you guys and not to use my name.
Information BUT i just want to see the most recent
episode about major general that's not, missing AND i think
you guys are missing some significant. Details you've only mean
two of the six people that are missing in all of,
this two of them are kind of on sphere that
the four of them are all tied in To Blue
halo and The afril that you need to look as
(36:11):
a task on the. Timeline after he retired from the,
military sighting at that time fatigue mental fog real coincidental
that it pops up again in the disappearance he leaves
and after he does, so he doesn't just retire and rant.
Down he Joined Applied Technology associates at the TIME ata
as a director Of. Technology he joins the board of
(36:31):
trust needs for riverside research and remind you some of
these guys the one that Developed lebanon for THE, cia
which has recently been released that nobody's talking about. Either very.
Weird four people all left their house without their wallet
and without any, information bone, key no, trackables burn notice.
Style so here's the name is BIG a look At Monica,
(36:54):
reza and you know the General JOHN, rossi look At
Jason tom then look at you Know lierlero l oh
you R E I R, o and then look At
carl grilmayor G R I L L M. R this
is not a. Coincidence feels more like a three body.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Problem and there we go message from. Anonymous there's a
ton of notes you can take on that. Message perhaps
you've already done. That we did it as. WELL i
just want to point out here before we get into,
anything connections being made between these individuals and their individual
(37:39):
situations are none of that is confirmed anywhere. Officially. Uh
the connections between organizations we're about to mention that we're
mentioned in that message are not directly connected to things.
There this is a lot of theorizing and and you,
know these are, ideas concept and connections that are being
(38:01):
made by individuals across the internet right now along with
our anonymous, caller and sometimes that we're making just by,
seeing you, know some, small actual real connection between let's
say an employer and an employee or employees somewhere along
a chain where there are you, know one, hundreds if
not thousands of other employees let's say in an employee employer.
(38:23):
Situation just putting that out. There one other thing we're
going to put out is that our anonymous caller mentions
something with THE cia called raven. NOT i think is
how he says, it BUT i can't quite make it
out from the audio. THERE i was unable to find
any OFFICIAL cia raven something raven not with a knot
(38:49):
or annot or an a ught or anything like, That
SO i don't know what that. Is if you have
information on, that please you, know contact, us either be a, voicemail, Email,
instagram by any of the, places find us and tell
us what that, is Because i'm curious to what it
could mean or.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
BE i don't think we're. ANONYMOUS i don't think we're
talking about The raven.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Program, no that's a that's.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Ended that's a different. Thing but we, would To matt's,
point love your help on clarifying this specific, aspect especially you,
know it's so fascinating how deep this rabbit hole continues
to continues to. Go because we started with one missing major,
(39:37):
general we went to a second, person and now we're
seeing that people are saying that person is not affiliated
with the other missing, people But. Matt the question becomes
for anonymous are we drawing tea leaves or can we
solidly draw some red st Here Charlie day.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Style as of this, moment there is a mixture of those.
Things so the red strings that we can draw are
Between general mccassland and the moment that he retires and
enters the private. Sector and when we're looking at some
of those, things we're looking at specific companies such As
Riverside research And Applied Technology. Associates these are both organizations
(40:27):
that work directly with government contractors and the government itself
to get. Contracts there's all kinds of consultation that, occurs
which is the type of. Role let me not misspeak.
Here general McCasland held a bunch of different roles at different.
Companies sometimes you know he's on a board somewhere where
that means you, know that's somebody who is listening to
(40:51):
ideas about what the company could do or shouldn't, do
and then is giving. Advice, right that's what kind of
what that person does or votes on whether or not
the company does one or two. Things then you've also
got the role of like the head of, technology which
is going to be again a guiding role for the
rest of the company and employees, there and that's a
(41:12):
much more hands on position than let's say a board.
Member and we see this kind of revolving door thing
a lot with all versions of the, government where once
you've held a, position let's say In congress in, specific
you're in hearings all the time about specific technologies or
sectors or things like that.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Certain committees let's call them Select.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yes very, often the moment you're done with that, role you,
know serving the, government you are now serving whatever you.
Know one of these, companies let's Say Riverside research Or
Applied Technologies Technology. Associates excuse. Me Blue halo is a
very interesting one that's mentioned in This Blue halo is
(41:57):
a part of aero VIRONMENT A E R O V
I R O N M E N. T that, Is
i'll read you what they say on their. Website we're
united by a mission to create and rapidly deploy purpose
built solutions to those who defend us at home and.
Abroad we Founded Blue halo to be a protective ring
(42:19):
around everything we care about most in the face of pure.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
CONFLICT i wrote the same thing WHEN i was starting
a food truck matt that.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
They, well this is a weird it's a really interesting coming.
Again all these defense contractors they want to they need
to show you that they're. Multifaceted so like we do
a whole bunch of different. Things we got expertise in
like twenty different. Realms we're talking space, operations we're talking it,
stuff zero, trust, baby all of these. Things they they're
(42:51):
selling a big game so that that government money to
the tune of tens of millions of dollars or more
can land with, them and then they, can you, know
figure out solutions that secure our customer's advantage in any battle.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Space, wow customer's advantage in any battle. SPACE i wish
we're on video for our weekly. SEGMENT i want to
turn around in a chair with my fingers steepled and,
say what if the colors aren't just for? Cows you
know WHAT i? Mean, like that's the kind of stuff
(43:26):
that they're talking. About, obviously you want to offer. Solutions
they're doing this huge application. Pitch, right we figured out a.
Thing most, importantly we have the access. Right we have
the human resource. Stuff because all the buddies on our
(43:47):
consulting pantheon used to be DoD. Right they used to
be In. Congress and guess, what they still have the phone,
numbers they still have the. Clearance they can still walk
in the, door.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Right, well, yeah and they know about advanced let's, say
directed energy weapons and things like, that and all kinds
of advanced what do you call signals intelligence technology that
exists that is not out there for any consumer or you,
know no matter how important your company, is you can't get.
It if you want to look up some weird stuff
(44:23):
With Blue, halo check Out. Badger that's, Right Blue halo
has A badger in. Bags they're nine. Bags they're in
these giant metal. Cages us about? It, okay, sure here he.
Goes badger simplifies mission operations through agile software defined antenna.
Systems as a, deployable multi be multi banned ground, terminal
(44:46):
enabling resilient. Operations badger provides a modular and, reconfigurable large
form factor digital phased eray solution for complex satcom telemetry
and electronic warfare mission voice sold.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Me but also.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
There's a lot of. Words there's a lot of. Words
it sounds really great in a. Meeting you're, right, GUYS
i gotta tell you About. BADGER i think we need
to give the money To Blue. Halo this thing is.
Crazy it's. Crazy it's, modular, reconfigurable it's got form factor,
digital phased race solutions for complex Satcom.
Speaker 7 (45:23):
Guys are you not?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Complicated Are.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I'm sitting way too much time in. This go to
look Up Riverside. Research Riverside. Research that's Not RIVERSIDE. Fm
by the, way is that which that's not? Them at
LEAST i don't think it. Is RIVERSIDE fm.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Will look into it after.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
This they're big on all kinds of. Things i'll just
tell you what They're they're a nonprofit organization chartered to
advance scientific research for the benefit of The United states
government and in the public. Interest they deliver innovative solutions
for many of the defense and intelligence communities most difficult.
CHALLENGES i you, know.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Guys i've got a hold on that one because you nailed, It,
matt you nailed it in on that is perfect, boardroom
Black monday murders. Language what happened to non innovative? Solutions
what happened to just, regular, boring dependable? Solutions now everything's
(46:30):
got to be. INNOVATIVE i need AN nft for my you,
know privatized healthcare or. Whatever, like what is going on
with these silly. Words it's positively. SUSSIENT i.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
AGREE i. Agree i'm the last one on this because
we just have to hit these names so you can
at least look up the information on. THEM i do feel, like,
guys we should just do a whole macastle and. Things there's,
yeah it's so. Necessive there's so many details. Here last
one Is Applied Technology associates that you can find at
AT a dashe dot. Com not to be confused WITH,
(47:09):
ata The American Taekwondo. Association, okay just do not do
not make that. Connection that's not what it.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Is AT.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
A they do, engineering they provide, analysis they do test
driven design for, aerospace, defense themed, entertainment what consumer products
and industrial and mining Equipment.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
I'm, sorry themed entertainment like, yeah like Like.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Jackie cheese or Like Twili blanca experience or padding MESENEL.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
Uk that's a. Weird that's a very diverse portfolio of
of of.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Activities it's, innovative solution oriented thought.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Creaking, YES i really like the language at the. End
this is the last THING i read On Applied Technology
Associates we use advanced computer aided engineering software to solve
problems for our customers and to, design, analyze and test
complex highly engineered structures subject to severe dynamic loads.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
Severe oh my, god you loads so severe and. Dynamics uh,
so what they mean is something, nimble agile that can
adapt to changing circumstances on the. Ground, Absolutely but the
(48:34):
language is beat me, Here Dylan plice being, hilarious.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Well, done well. Written does someone at uh does someone
in like a comedy writer's room have, this, like have
this website as their side, gig.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
It's gotta be so. YOU i just imagine writing some
of the copy for a lot of these defense, Contractors,
like oh my, god.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
It was, funny, Though matt is this is the same
kind of jargony speak that heggs get uses when you
make speeches LIKE i was talking, about like the use
of war fighter and a lot of, these you, know
really kind of macho terms and a lot of word
salad and it just feels very.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Related that's all last thing on these, companies. GUYS i
haven't independently verified mccasline's direct connection to any of. These
our anonymous, caller you, know states pretty definitively that McCaslin
was a part of these. COMPANIES i haven't seen. THAT
i haven't like looked any of that up to actually verify.
THAT i don't know these other human beings connections to
(49:38):
some of these other. Companies if there are any that's
stuff we can do in the full researched version of
this just right now, again do it on your own
if you, can and then we're also going to be doing.
It let's just go down these. Names Monica Reza, jacinto
we talked about. Her she went Missing june twenty, second
twenty twenty. Five she worked At Aerojet Rocket dying Developed Mond,
(50:00):
alloy a family of nickel based super. Alloys they're used
for rocket engines and other military, tech very key important.
Stuff Major General william McCaslin disappeared On february twenty seventh
from his own. Home this is one of these guys
That anonymous is talking about the three body, problem leaving
specific items at, home such as his smart, watch prescription,
(50:23):
glasses and his, phone although taking with him his, wallet
red backpack and thirty eight caliber. Revolver then you've Got
John rossi that we. Mentioned this is a man who
according to The Army, times committed suicide back in twenty.
Sixteen the story there that we mentioned before In Strange,
news at least the official stories that he was under
(50:45):
a lot of stress as he was a two star
general preparing to get his third star and be bumped
up and get in charge of some very important. Things
you can look that up if you. Wish Jason, thomas
this is a new name for our discussions, here and
this is the person THAT i am the least knowledgeable
about when it comes to how he could be. Connected
(51:06):
he was an assistant director of chemical biology At. Novardes,
again this is like chemistry coming into a group of
people that are more associated with military, physics, technology, aerospace
those kinds of. Things this is chemical chemical. Biologist the story, here,
(51:28):
Though jason's story is probably the most intriguing when it
comes to a, disappearance, because according to his wife's, story
he had just lost both his. Parents he was in
a just you, know in a pretty bad. Way his
mother passed, away and then as he and his father
were preparing for the mother's, funeral his father suffered a
(51:49):
heart attack and essentially died in his. Arms the emotional,
toll mental toll of that we can't. Imagine but this, Person,
jason according to his, wife just kind of walked out
of the house one night after they both came. Home
they took care of the. Dogs then he just walked
out of the. House he put his phone in the,
(52:12):
Mailbox he left his wallet and. Everything he just and
he put his phone in the mailbox and then he
just walked off into the. Woods this occurred On december,
twelfth twenty twenty. Five you can then see. REPORTS i
haven't seen it, verified but allegedly a body was recovered
that is believed to be Possibly Jason thomas's. Body that
(52:34):
was On march, seventeenth twenty twenty, six when The Wakefield
Police department announced a body was recovered from a lake
nearby where he. Lived, again that one just we need
more info on, that but you recommend you read the
story FROM Nbc News massachusetts Man Jason thomas vanished From
wakefield three months? Ago have you seen? Him that was
(52:55):
published literally the day before the announcement that a body was.
Found but it has the most details on that story
of the wife just like everything seemed. Fine he's not, happy,
Right he's sad because of his life. Situation but then
he just. Chooses he doesn't say anything to his, Wife
he just walks. Away and she heard the metal mailbox
(53:15):
close is how she, knew, oh he's. Gone and then
she saw him walking down the street just, leaving and
then found his phone in. There, weird really. WEIRD i
don't know how to say this Name Nuno. Luiiro we
have mentioned this person before On Strange. NEWS i Think ben.
Did this is A mit nuclear physicist who was shot
(53:37):
and killed in his. Home the story there is very.
Strange this is a person who was killed by someone
he possibly, knew who had went to school with him.
Before very strange. Story he was a very important human.
Being he's recognized for advancements in plasma behavior and that's
(53:58):
not like blood, plasma talking about energy plasma and state
of matter like the sun and, fusion those kinds of.
Things very the scientific community reacted to his death as
a highly significant loss to literally the community absolutely and
(54:21):
to potential advances that could. Come last Person Carl. Grillmayer
this is another renowned scientist with The California institute Of.
Technology he is again another hugely important. Person according to The,
guardian his most remarkable achievement was detecting indications of water
(54:42):
on a distant planet orbiting a star different from The.
Sun so he's an astrophysics he does all kinds of
or he did all kinds of work for. Astronomy incredible
stuff In Los. Angeles he died from a bullet wound
to the torso back In. February there's a whole investigation
(55:03):
to this person Named Freddie. Snyder you can look that.
Up That's.
Speaker 3 (55:06):
Snyder and to be, clear is That february twenty twenty
five or twenty twenty?
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Six THIS i believe is twenty twenty six If i'm
looking at The, guardian just let me confirm. That, yes
they're reporting In february twenty twenty six that he died
in his. Home they're sixty seven years. Old we don't
know His if there are any direct connections or even
(55:36):
tenuous connections between these folks or as individuals right or
their work or, why if there's any possible motive or
timing that we should be looking into. Here so if
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(55:59):
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Who doesn't love a good joke. We're gonna talk about
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all of the Western world.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Are rude vegas? What's going on with them?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
Grocery prices are high, housing is more expensive than ever
in gas prices, well, we don't have to tell you
that they're only going up lately. With all this uncertainty
in the world. Don't you wish there was one product
that could do what I do? Well, you might be
surprised to learn that there is the rude beiga. You
can eat it, you can use it instead.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Of wooden bricks, and you can put some of them
in your guests due we haven't tried to have.
Speaker 6 (03:35):
The three options we just mentioned yet, but we bought
this ad space yesterday and we needed something topical. Let's
face it, you dig rudabagas and rudebegas dig you. Actually,
we're not sure if rudabagas are sentient yet. Let me
try a different tagline.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Rude begas. We don't know much about them. Paid for
by the National Rudebaker Council.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Left one out though, you ever tried sticking a rutebegga
and someone's tailpipe.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
No, don't do that.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
They're too big, that's true. Can I make a confession? Sure,
I've never seen a rutabaga? Oh I don't know what.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Well?
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Is it like a radish? Is it like a beat?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Kind of?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's its own thing? Okay, which sounds like I'm advertising
David S Pumpkins.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
It's a secret.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Third thing is this. It's insides are this distinctly yellowish
kind of hue. But it looks like it's I don't know,
it's just special. And we recommend you go out and
dig your own root of begas as soon as possible.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Yeah, there's a bit of parson to it, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
See that's what I'm picturing every time I say here rudebega,
I picture parsonip And that's just not the same.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
It's smell.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Its smells similar, and the smell is distinct but not
Durian level. And I've gotta tell you, Tennessee, Uh, you
have again outdone yourself. I was so tempted to freestyle
on that beat. Did you make that beat?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
And uh?
Speaker 3 (05:08):
High salute for the whisper there that rude bega whisper.
Speaker 8 (05:14):
I didn't make the beat, but if you want the
instrumental ben. We can go, we can long.
Speaker 9 (05:23):
Loud.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, guys, have we ever done anything with rut of bacon,
egg and cheese sandwich or use are great?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
That's greatgel bites great, Matt, there you got another one.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
These are great.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Those are my two Ruda bacon, egg and cheese Rudaba.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Beautiful Ruda boy vegas. There we go, there we go. Yeah,
all right, Uh, we're loving the energy here. We are
so thankful that you all have tuned in. We're gonna
pause for a word from our spotnswers and then, guys,
(06:02):
what say we get back to one moved to rule
them all? And we have returned. We have some breaking
news courtesy of our Instagram pal j Mo Days, who
says Peter Teel is betting big on a two billion
(06:26):
US dollar AI cow caller startup powered by calgorithms.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Okay, these headlines are getting wait let me finish, sud
Jesus Christ and investors are fighting to get it. I
stand by what I said. He just escalated it one
one click further into the absurdity.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Abyss my favorite type of comedy.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
Only it were comedy anymore.
Speaker 9 (06:58):
So.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Our pal j has an issue with this story.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
You guys.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
He's saying, you start with cows, you push a transhuman
agenda and enslave people in smart cities. It's a classic
reptilian kind of thing to do. Could this be a
proof of concept? In Jay's opinion, it seems like this
tech has a lot of good potential if used you maanly,
(07:25):
but it raises some eyebrows when it is Peter Teele
pulling the strings. I'm in love with the word calgarithm.
I never encountered it before. It's all the big state
surveillance we're talking about applied to the livestock industry.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
I don't quite understand the why of it.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Yeah. The idea is that you could take these solar
powered callers made by a New Zealand based company called
Halter and Halter will create virtual fences for the cattle
that wear these collars, similar to the shock callers that
(08:14):
you see people putting on their doggos, got.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
It, got It, and the ones that will soon be
putting on ice detainees.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
That's the idea, that's the fear, and I think it's
because of the teal connection. So the callers connect to
a farmer's phone through an app. So if you are
a rancher, you can look at not just the location
of your herd, but you can look at the individual
health metrics of a cow, of a living thing, and
(08:47):
then you can remotely guide them using they're calling it vibrations,
but I think they'll move up to shot cues pretty soon,
as well as audio cues from the device. So let's
imagine we're all cattle in some range, right, and all
of a sudden, we're wandering too far away from you know,
(09:11):
our hauler or our valley, and we hear something that
sounds like a whistle, and then right around our neck
we feel a shock. This is, by the way, brought
to you by the Founder's Fund, which Peter Tool created.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, it's right, those things that does feel like there's
a there's a there's a next step for it. It's
I'm sure most farmers would say this sounds great, like
like really cool tech that could be incredibly useful.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's kind of.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Saving uh time. Right, you don't have to buy a
sheep dog at this point. If it works, do something
about cattle rustling. It's like having a it's like having
an air tag on your whole herd.
Speaker 9 (09:56):
It is.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
It is exactly like that. Uh do you guys think
that Jay and I are being alarmist by seeing this
going toward what you call nol an inevitable next step?
Do we see a world where people have something like
a collar on their person other than obviously cell phones.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, it's gonna see. We already have it. It's just
handheld because I'm imagining the little thing and then all
this like, oh, we need to do something else, Oh
we need to go here, Oh I need to check
my something. You know.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Haptics, I think is what they call some of that stuff,
at least the vibration version of it, that can be
very influential. I also picture. I mean, this seems like
the third secret third step would be an implant of
some sort. I mean, it all does feel like there's
the only reason this stuff maybe doesn't exist yet is
because of limitations of technology and perhaps optics. But we
(10:53):
are entering a society in a world where thing optics
and you know, the presentation or the appearance of honoring
human rights matters less and less. So I don't see
a barrier towards rolling this out for say, detainees, prisoners, etc.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Right, especially with the erosion of democracy. Jay, I'm not
sure if that's where you wanted us to take it,
but as we pointed out, that is inevitably where this
kind of technology will go. If you figure out a function,
you learn the applications afterward. Let us know, folks, what
(11:31):
you think about this, especially if you work in the
livestock industry. We're going to move on quickly to some
Spotify comments. We have not done this on listener mail previously,
but just to be transparent, folks, we are very excited
about various platforms allowing old school YouTube style comments, and
(11:58):
we do read the comments on our episodes posted on Spotify.
We got one, you guys, from Sasha. Sasha is commenting
on our episode Assault and Murder, the Grand Conspiracy of
Military cover Ups. We remember that one. It's pretty recent, right,
(12:18):
I think it came out last week.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
I don't have Spotify, so I can't see the comments,
but it's okay, Sosia. I would read them if I
could see them.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It's okay, Matt, Sasha and I are here for you.
Sasha says, if Russia and Ukraine are secretly in bed
and the split was fake so Russia could get spies,
into other countries and NATO easier. Why does Russia use
the Mormon religion to recruit non traditional members of the
(12:50):
military and intelligence community with top secret or better clearances.
I guess they're playing, says Sasha. All then when it
comes to stealing secrets from the United States, here's why
we're we're putting a spotlight on you. Sasha. First, you
(13:12):
are absolutely correct. Here in the United States intel agencies
and the military absolutely love folks who come from the
Latter Day Saints religion. I believe we talked about this
a little bit earlier, maybe off air, maybe on air.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
What is the reasoning there?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
The reasoning there would be. First, people who are part
of the LDS community or belief system are going to
tend not to have some of the big detractors that
you look for in an agent. Right, They're not gonna
They're gonna tend not to have financial stuff like debt
(14:02):
or gambling problems. They're going to tend not to have
substance abuse problems. They are going to tend to speak
obscure languages that most Americans do not speak, which makes
them perfect interesting. Yeah, because you got to go on
(14:22):
that mission for two years.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, and then you know, the capacity to have faith
in the Golden Tablet story maybe which to sell other stories.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Excellent observation they're I do have to ask, though, would
would Russian intelligence be able to really bring in LDS
folks to the fold. Do we think that's possible?
Speaker 4 (14:55):
Well, I mean, I don't know. They're certainly we know
they're trying to get folks to defect from the United
States in terms of like renouncing citizenship and offering incentives
or things like that. So I think maybe incentives tailored
to that community could be successful. They seem pretty pretty
good at convincing folks.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
I don't know. I don't know enough about the community
to know what those incentives would be like. It would
be maybe an easy low blow to talk about polygamy
and stuff, but we know that's not a thing. You know,
it is very much renounced within that community.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
So yeah, it's it's not mainstreamed anymore in Latter day Saints. However,
it kind of reminds me of the great to do
that occurred when John F. Kennedy became the first Catholic
US president. Right, there were a lot of people at
the time contemporary critics who were saying, we can't trust
(15:55):
this guy. He doesn't follow what's best for the US.
He follows what's best for the Vatican, which I think
was very discriminatory and prejudiced. I don't know is Russia
scooping up Mormon operatives.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
There's no way to know.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Well, we do know that, in step with these accusations,
the Russian government is currently recommending women who do not
have or do not want children to go see psychologist.
I think we all caught that one. Oh man, oh gosh,
(16:38):
we're gonna pickle. We're going to keep this short. We
did confirm that UCSD professors wanted money to research telepathy.
The disgraced finance here and proven child trafficker Jeffrey Epstein
did support them with a fifty thousand dollars that goes
(17:01):
to uc San Diego scientists. We looked into this a
little bit, and we're pretty sure that these professors did
not participate in the darker side of Epstein's empire, but
they wanted to learn about telepathy and they needed money.
(17:25):
Since we're audio here, Matt just made the most awesome
to narrow face.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I certainly wasn't purposeful. If you want to learn about telepathy,
and there's tests to be done. I suppose you need
money for those, and hey, if you got the money,
let's put it into telepathy. Let's stop putting all our
money into stuff like I don't own nation building and
(17:51):
oil extraction and all this other stuff. Let's just focus
on telepathy and see where, see how far we can
take this thing.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Yeah, you know, let's say, hey, what's wrong with asking questions?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Right?
Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's the mission of the show. Turns out that back
in twenty ten they started messing with this guy, and
by twenty ten he had already become a convicted sex criminal.
So a little bit curious or and curious or we
(18:28):
can't wait to hear your thoughts. We'll keep this one brief.
We're going to pause for a word from our sponsor.
We'll be back, assuming that we don't get shot collared
over the break, And we're.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Back with a handful of relatively shorty short messages from
some excellent conspiracy realists out there. You too can be
among that number if you just write to us a
conspiracy at iHeartRadio. Here is one from the Sandman talking
about height maxing, and again, that's not right that's not.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
Definitely what this is. We're gonna talk.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
About that a little more in another listener mail segment
coming up, but it ain't that far off, guys. There
actually is an upper limit to height requirement for military service.
Six foot eight inches is the max. The reason is
that people taller than this don't easily fit into military
transport platforms. They're too big. If the Trump kid is six',
(19:31):
nine he is actually too. Tall we're talking about Young,
baron young bt because you, know the moment that talk
of reinstituting the, draft you, know started making the. Rounds of,
course you've got folks out there saying we'll send Young
baron out to the front lines as, well because we
certainly do in other, countries and this one is you,
(19:53):
know certainly in this one as. Well have a history
of even, royals for, example LIKE i Think Prince harry
did some tours In. Afghanistan you, know of, course they're
probably isolated and they're not exactly on the front, lines
but they are there and it is something that other
places seem to. Value And i'm certain that there are
administrations prior that have as. Well but it's a little
(20:14):
tough to take that kind of. Stuff, seriously when the
president himself was insulated from that kind of service for
some pretty bone spurious. Reasons nice, Anyway so, Continuing i'm
not defending. Him he's actually disqualified at that. Height feel
free to use this. Email please refer to me as The.
Sandman we done did. That thanks To. Sandman it's gonna
(20:35):
leave it at. That nothing only much to. SAY i
didn't know about the height, Requirement. MATT i think you've
got something to.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
ADD i just have one thing to. SHAY i don't
know if we saw my.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Comments you're talking, About, oh different, guys they sound very.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Similar he just he went, on who is he talking
With Peers? MORGAN i think he. Was he was looking
all scraggly with his beard and just, Said baird needs
to get on the front. Line that's really, Good jesse the.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Body but you know who? Else i'm telling you that
my pillow guy sounds very similar to. THAT i think
they it'd be fun to see them do a grizzle. Off,
okay moving on to the next. One, here we've got
one From. Flounder That's flounder with the pH WHICH i, love,
gentlemen and this is very much in line with something
(21:26):
that we just talked about on our Recent Strange news,
Episode SO i think it's appropriate to bring up. HERE
i consume fifty percent of my media from outside THE,
us BECAUSE i don't hear about quite as much from
OUR us based. Media here's a good. One one of
the exact articles that we just referenced in our Previous
Strange news, episode oil traders bet millions minutes Before Trump's iran.
(21:49):
Talks it's my, belief Says, flounder that both The epstein
files and our current leaders quickly shifting international snaff foos
are all just market influencing. Moves we'll get back to
that one more quick. Question with all the back and
forth between our elected officials regarding immigration, enforcement this is
(22:10):
something that came up for us recently as, well somewhat.
Close how come no one is talking about fixing the
immigration system with impending population, decline our capitalist society must
have workers and consumers to. Continue it seems that both
sides of the aisle would identify streamlining the immigration system
as a. Priority the fact THAT i don't hear any
(22:31):
pundit speaking to this fact raises alarms in my. Head
the silence is. Deafening please feel free to use any
of my comments on the show. Flounder, okay let's go
back to the market manipulation stuff real. Quick, yes maybe
The epstein stuff to a lesser, degree but there's always
a little bit of that. Mixed then that's Where i'm
that's WHERE i sit on. It, guys what do you THINK.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
I see it as functioning in that, way whether or
not it is, purposeful, right it is manipulating markets by
timing post so on truth social just you, know at
the beginning of a, weekend or at the tail end
of a, weekend or a post right as the markets
are about to open, up or as they. Open and
(23:13):
we're not talking about little tiny announcements or something we're
talking about we're talking about utilizing a social media account
to literally move. Markets and that's what it's. Doing, again
whether or not that's what it's meant to be.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Doing And i'm not in the position of giving much
benefit of the doubt where that's, concerned. UNFORTUNATELY I, mean
we have a president with a history of working the
system to his benefit and to the benefits of those you,
know who he does business, With SO i JUST i
don't think IT'S i think it's completely obvious that that's what's,
happening AND i just don't think they're even trying to hide.
(23:50):
It and it's really sad that there are very few
opportunities to seek any kind, of you, know consequences for
this this type of. BEHAVIOR i just don't know. That
it's again another one of those, things like you said
on the past the Listener mail, episode it's just a
matter of decorum and people in the past having not done,
That and it just shows how toothless a lot of
(24:11):
the regulations in place are to prevent this kind of.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Thing does it remind, you guys of the pump and
dump kind of stuff with like game stalk and all
of those other, weird little obscure stocks to get celebrities.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Get in trouble for pumping and, dumping for like going
online and, say HEY i got this, THING i got
this new. Coin they get yelled at it least at
least they get, canceled.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
They get in court of public opinion. Trouble and as
we talk about in UH i think previous Listener mail,
segment we we see that there are increasingly blatant examples
of rules for the and not for. Me and to your,
point here flounder the market influencing not to be two
(25:02):
Black monday murders about. It this stuff has happened across
administrations since before seventeen seventy, six so back in the old,
days you, know seventeen eighteen, hundreds back when you had
things like The Whig, Party Whig. Whig they were rigging
the game to the best of their abilities as, well
(25:25):
because the game is.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Crooked, yeah no it, is and it always has been for.
Sure and again just to make clear once again that
we are on either side of this argument in terms
of like who the ultimate good guys, are because everyone's
everyone's playing in the, mud everyone's benefiting from this kind of,
stuff and to your, point been the historical precedent for
this kind of thing is as clear as. Day but
(25:47):
they used to do a better job of hiding it
or at least try to have some kind of optics
that they could fall back. On now it just seems
like they just don't even, care to the point where
it's just so blatantly in your. Face this stuff is,
happening and there really isn't much you can do about,
it and they're almost rubbing it in your, face which
is bothersome to say the least.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
M.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Hm so we'll leave that one and have another quick
short heat to wrap this one. Up talking about sleep
paralysis is we used to be a real pet topic for,
us talking about sleep, paralysis demons and hallucinations and like
night terrors and. Stuff AND i just think this is
we always love hearing a real life perspective on folks
(26:31):
that are dealing with this this horrific. Condition maybe it's
the wrong, word but set of circumstances that can can
be incredibly terrifying and you, know crippling and a real
and a real barricade for people getting proper sleep and
leaving leading productive. Lives so this one comes From. Sean
i'm just gonna call Them.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Sean.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
Gentlemen i'm not that great at looking at my, email
so if you, RESPOND i probably will never see. It, well,
hey it would seem that you listen to your, podcast
so we're going to respond right. Here that being, SAID
i have no idea Why i'm writing this. EMAIL i
never do this sort of, thing But i've been watching
your guys podcast On. Netflix. Welcome we love A netflix convert,
ee and for some reason just have the impulse to write.
This SO i have had sleep PARALYSIS i don't, know
(27:16):
maybe half a dozen times in my, life and every
time it's the same, thing and it is absolutely, frightening
and it sucks so bad because when it, happens you
are aware in a state where you would feel like you're,
awake except your body can't. Move but you can sense
these entities around. You i'm not certain if you can
actually see them. PHYSICALLY i can't specifically. Recall i'm pretty
(27:37):
sure you, can't, though but you can one hundred percent sense.
Them you know that there are there is evil wrapped
up in these. Entities you have a strong sense of,
that and it sort, of you, know clusters around you
and fills you with an extreme sensation of fright and
(28:00):
you have no idea what these entities. Want and it's
absolutely the most terrifying thing that has ever happened to
me in my. Life when it's happening to, me in
order to get out of, IT i basically would have
to in my own, mind fight my body to move
with every bit of energy THAT i, had just to
shake my arm for, example Like i'm, handcuffed are in.
(28:23):
Shackles this is all happening from within my. Mind, also
it's a sense of having some kind of memory of
how to move and kind of trying to actualize that
these events only last maybe thirty seconds at, most and
perhaps after the last ten seconds of trying to fight
(28:44):
myself to move or wake, UP i then only. Then
it's very similar to the way we kind of wake
up and recall a dream more immediately connected to waking,
up and then it kind, of you, know it fades
away as the day goes. On ask, myself what just?
Happened all? RIGHT i have many other weird things throughout
my life that we all out of body, experiences seeing
(29:07):
psychics and getting results from that that are just quite.
Insane but for NOW i want to say that with complete,
certainty there is something else to our. REALITY i don't
know what it, is but it is an absolute certainty
as far AS i am. Concerned Enjoy sean.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Right there with. You.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Sean definitely think there's stuff lurking in the crevices out
there in the, dark As ben would, say and appreciate
the direct experiential data around what it feels like to
fight off these bouts of sleep.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Paralysis, dude this stuff is so fascinating to. Me what
was that documentary called that came.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Out, Yeah i've honestly been putting off watching it because
it just freaks me.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Out, well that's one of the big conceits of sleep.
Paralysis once you think about, it or you're looking at
examples of it and all of that other. Stuff according
to the, stories it's much more likely to happen to
you because your, mind you, know is primed for it
in a VERY nlp kind of. WAY i Think i've
(30:12):
had it, before BUT i just, personally, GUYS i don't
know That i've had an experience that was. FRIGHTENING i
think it's more like a kind of a weird a weird.
Dream this is a little, creepy but just DOESN'T i
never thought there was actually some. PRESENCE i just haven't
experienced it that intensely.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
YET i, Mean i've certainly had night, terrors BUT i
think the real, kicker or the differentiator between something like
that and sleep paralysis is that locked in, sensation that
feeling of being, awake being aware you're, awake but also
feeling like you're still, dreaming and then losing control of
your faculties in that, way WHICH i think we all
(30:52):
know without ever having to have experienced. It how terrifying
something like that might. Be if you've ever even been
injured and all of a, sudden like you could lift your.
Arm it is a real sense of being out of.
Control we take for granted the fact that we, can you, know,
ambulate and having that disappear would even for a, MOMENT
i think would be a real vulnerability and just a
(31:14):
real sense of like being completely out of.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
Control i've actually phausis many. Times if it adds, anything, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Let's go to. You have you experienced.
Speaker 8 (31:26):
THAT i used to experience that a lot of a. Kid,
no it's usually once a. Year but at some POINT
i started understanding what was going on a little bit.
Better usually it's like a lot of nightmares can be
set on by having a lot of sugar before, bed
SO i kind of realized that that was a thing
that was causing. Them but one TIME i had a
(31:48):
his finals week in, college and AFTER i got done
with my last, FINAL i ate about six doughnuts in
fifteen minutes and went to bed and woke up paralyzed
BY i can see a small child in my. Room,
no and what was at that, MOMENT i was, like
this isn't?
Speaker 9 (32:04):
Real but it's.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
Annoying was the was the Small child Wool.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Dylan it was.
Speaker 8 (32:11):
Pretty, ghostly you, know just standing there like you, know
it was, Concerning BUT i also understood in that moment
for the first, time this isn't. Real BUT i gotta
just white knuckle.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
It it is one of those tropes from like you
know It Stephen king Or nightmare On Elm, street where
like the moment you have to tell yourself this isn't,
real it doesn't, real and then they lose the. Power
but the commonalities of the experiences that folks have and these,
entities that's the part that makes me really messes me. Up,
Man like the Machine elves AND dmt experience is, like
(32:46):
is this a thing that is peaking through the? Veil
because that's what it feels like to.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Me that's WHAT i wanted to ask, You, dylan you've
got this. Child were there any recurring characters or shapes
or anything like.
Speaker 8 (32:58):
That WHEN i was, younger it used to be like
breathing on my neck that was. Awful But i've seen
The Small child a couple times and as part of
sleep paralysis.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
And, dylan before we move, ON i think IF i
could ask on behalf of the. Audience you said it
happens about once a. Year, now is it around the
same time every year or is it just a random
day out of every three?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Sixties so is it the birthday Cake.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
Dylan let's, see the last TIME i happened was about
a month, ago AND i had been To, BUCkies shout
out To, bunkies and been to the candy wall and
eating a lot of, candy stayed up late a bachelor,
party went to, bed and it, happened and my friend
had to shake me. Awake so that was a fun
one for a thirty seven year old man for a.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Moment for a, Moment, TENNESSEE i SWEAR i thought you
said my friend had to shave me, awake which is
an entirely, difference but an excellent.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Pronk well that set for my segment here on Today's
Listener mail Episode huge thanks to The, Sandman flounder And.
Sean stay a quick break and then we'll be back
with the final. Segment today's episode coming to us from Mister.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Matt and we've returned to Old maddie one Gear. Frederick
guess What we're going back to. McCasland here we. Go
we got a message from an anonymous so and so
called us On march twenty, fourth just, yesterday as we
(34:40):
were recording. This on the twenty, fifth and just after
we put out Our Strange news episode where we talked
About general McCasland and how he is, missing we talked
about one other person in, there person Named Monica Reza.
Jacinto this message is letting us know that the there
may be some other people that we should be. CONSIDERING
(35:03):
i believe it was the Next Strange news episode that
we talked About Major General John, rossy just for a
moment to discuss that, person as he is also mentioned
in some of the. Reporting this anonymous person is saying
there are several other individuals we need to look. Into
we are not going to have time to do all
the digging that this voicemail requires of, us but we
(35:27):
won't be able to do it. Today but this is
stuff that we can look, into and we can all
independently check this stuff. Out so you're encouraged in this
moment to write down proper nouns that you're going to
be hearing and do a little digging. Yourself, Second, yes
for this one yes, Segment here we go from Anonymous.
Speaker 9 (35:49):
I'm going to remain anonymous on this, one And i'm
gonna ask you guys and not to use my name.
Information BUT i just want to see the most recent
episode about major general that's not, missing AND i think
you guys are missing some significant. Details you've only mean
two of the six people that are missing in all of,
this two of them are kind of on sphere that
the four of them are all tied in To Blue
halo and The afril that you need to look as
(36:11):
a task on the. Timeline after he retired from the,
military sighting at that time fatigue mental fog real coincidental
that it pops up again in the disappearance he leaves
and after he does, so he doesn't just retire and rant.
Down he Joined Applied Technology associates at the TIME ata
as a director Of. Technology he joins the board of
(36:31):
trust needs for riverside research and remind you some of
these guys the one that Developed lebanon for THE, cia
which has recently been released that nobody's talking about. Either very.
Weird four people all left their house without their wallet
and without any, information bone, key no, trackables burn notice.
Style so here's the name is BIG a look At Monica,
(36:54):
reza and you know the General JOHN, rossi look At
Jason tom then look at you Know lierlero l oh
you R E I R, o and then look At
carl grilmayor G R I L L M. R this
is not a. Coincidence feels more like a three body.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Problem and there we go message from. Anonymous there's a
ton of notes you can take on that. Message perhaps
you've already done. That we did it as. WELL i
just want to point out here before we get into,
anything connections being made between these individuals and their individual
(37:39):
situations are none of that is confirmed anywhere. Officially. Uh
the connections between organizations we're about to mention that we're
mentioned in that message are not directly connected to things.
There this is a lot of theorizing and and you,
know these are, ideas concept and connections that are being
(38:01):
made by individuals across the internet right now along with
our anonymous, caller and sometimes that we're making just by,
seeing you, know some, small actual real connection between let's
say an employer and an employee or employees somewhere along
a chain where there are you, know one, hundreds if
not thousands of other employees let's say in an employee employer.
(38:23):
Situation just putting that out. There one other thing we're
going to put out is that our anonymous caller mentions
something with THE cia called raven. NOT i think is
how he says, it BUT i can't quite make it
out from the audio. THERE i was unable to find
any OFFICIAL cia raven something raven not with a knot
(38:49):
or annot or an a ught or anything like, That
SO i don't know what that. Is if you have
information on, that please you, know contact, us either be a, voicemail, Email,
instagram by any of the, places find us and tell
us what that, is Because i'm curious to what it
could mean or.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
BE i don't think we're. ANONYMOUS i don't think we're
talking about The raven.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Program, no that's a that's.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
Ended that's a different. Thing but we, would To matt's,
point love your help on clarifying this specific, aspect especially you,
know it's so fascinating how deep this rabbit hole continues
to continues to. Go because we started with one missing major,
(39:37):
general we went to a second, person and now we're
seeing that people are saying that person is not affiliated
with the other missing, people But. Matt the question becomes
for anonymous are we drawing tea leaves or can we
solidly draw some red st Here Charlie day.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Style as of this, moment there is a mixture of those.
Things so the red strings that we can draw are
Between general mccassland and the moment that he retires and
enters the private. Sector and when we're looking at some
of those, things we're looking at specific companies such As
Riverside research And Applied Technology. Associates these are both organizations
(40:27):
that work directly with government contractors and the government itself
to get. Contracts there's all kinds of consultation that, occurs
which is the type of. Role let me not misspeak.
Here general McCasland held a bunch of different roles at different.
Companies sometimes you know he's on a board somewhere where
that means you, know that's somebody who is listening to
(40:51):
ideas about what the company could do or shouldn't, do
and then is giving. Advice, right that's what kind of
what that person does or votes on whether or not
the company does one or two. Things then you've also
got the role of like the head of, technology which
is going to be again a guiding role for the
rest of the company and employees, there and that's a
(41:12):
much more hands on position than let's say a board.
Member and we see this kind of revolving door thing
a lot with all versions of the, government where once
you've held a, position let's say In congress in, specific
you're in hearings all the time about specific technologies or
sectors or things like that.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
Certain committees let's call them Select.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yes very, often the moment you're done with that, role you,
know serving the, government you are now serving whatever you.
Know one of these, companies let's Say Riverside research Or
Applied Technologies Technology. Associates excuse. Me Blue halo is a
very interesting one that's mentioned in This Blue halo is
(41:57):
a part of aero VIRONMENT A E R O V
I R O N M E N. T that, Is
i'll read you what they say on their. Website we're
united by a mission to create and rapidly deploy purpose
built solutions to those who defend us at home and.
Abroad we Founded Blue halo to be a protective ring
(42:19):
around everything we care about most in the face of pure.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
CONFLICT i wrote the same thing WHEN i was starting
a food truck matt that.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
They, well this is a weird it's a really interesting coming.
Again all these defense contractors they want to they need
to show you that they're. Multifaceted so like we do
a whole bunch of different. Things we got expertise in
like twenty different. Realms we're talking space, operations we're talking it,
stuff zero, trust, baby all of these. Things they they're
(42:51):
selling a big game so that that government money to
the tune of tens of millions of dollars or more
can land with, them and then they, can you, know
figure out solutions that secure our customer's advantage in any battle.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Space, wow customer's advantage in any battle. SPACE i wish
we're on video for our weekly. SEGMENT i want to
turn around in a chair with my fingers steepled and,
say what if the colors aren't just for? Cows you
know WHAT i? Mean, like that's the kind of stuff
(43:26):
that they're talking. About, obviously you want to offer. Solutions
they're doing this huge application. Pitch, right we figured out a.
Thing most, importantly we have the access. Right we have
the human resource. Stuff because all the buddies on our
(43:47):
consulting pantheon used to be DoD. Right they used to
be In. Congress and guess, what they still have the phone,
numbers they still have the. Clearance they can still walk
in the, door.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Right, well, yeah and they know about advanced let's, say
directed energy weapons and things like, that and all kinds
of advanced what do you call signals intelligence technology that
exists that is not out there for any consumer or you,
know no matter how important your company, is you can't get.
It if you want to look up some weird stuff
(44:23):
With Blue, halo check Out. Badger that's, Right Blue halo
has A badger in. Bags they're nine. Bags they're in
these giant metal. Cages us about? It, okay, sure here he.
Goes badger simplifies mission operations through agile software defined antenna.
Systems as a, deployable multi be multi banned ground, terminal
(44:46):
enabling resilient. Operations badger provides a modular and, reconfigurable large
form factor digital phased eray solution for complex satcom telemetry
and electronic warfare mission voice sold.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Me but also.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
There's a lot of. Words there's a lot of. Words
it sounds really great in a. Meeting you're, right, GUYS
i gotta tell you About. BADGER i think we need
to give the money To Blue. Halo this thing is.
Crazy it's. Crazy it's, modular, reconfigurable it's got form factor,
digital phased race solutions for complex Satcom.
Speaker 7 (45:23):
Guys are you not?
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Complicated Are.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I'm sitting way too much time in. This go to
look Up Riverside. Research Riverside. Research that's Not RIVERSIDE. Fm
by the, way is that which that's not? Them at
LEAST i don't think it. Is RIVERSIDE fm.
Speaker 3 (45:45):
Will look into it after.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
This they're big on all kinds of. Things i'll just
tell you what They're they're a nonprofit organization chartered to
advance scientific research for the benefit of The United states
government and in the public. Interest they deliver innovative solutions
for many of the defense and intelligence communities most difficult.
CHALLENGES i you, know.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
Guys i've got a hold on that one because you nailed, It,
matt you nailed it in on that is perfect, boardroom
Black monday murders. Language what happened to non innovative? Solutions
what happened to just, regular, boring dependable? Solutions now everything's
(46:30):
got to be. INNOVATIVE i need AN nft for my you,
know privatized healthcare or. Whatever, like what is going on
with these silly. Words it's positively. SUSSIENT i.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
AGREE i. Agree i'm the last one on this because
we just have to hit these names so you can
at least look up the information on. THEM i do feel, like,
guys we should just do a whole macastle and. Things there's,
yeah it's so. Necessive there's so many details. Here last
one Is Applied Technology associates that you can find at
AT a dashe dot. Com not to be confused WITH,
(47:09):
ata The American Taekwondo. Association, okay just do not do
not make that. Connection that's not what it.
Speaker 4 (47:15):
Is AT.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
A they do, engineering they provide, analysis they do test
driven design for, aerospace, defense themed, entertainment what consumer products
and industrial and mining Equipment.
Speaker 4 (47:29):
I'm, sorry themed entertainment like, yeah like Like.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Jackie cheese or Like Twili blanca experience or padding MESENEL.
Speaker 4 (47:40):
Uk that's a. Weird that's a very diverse portfolio of
of of.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Activities it's, innovative solution oriented thought.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Creaking, YES i really like the language at the. End
this is the last THING i read On Applied Technology
Associates we use advanced computer aided engineering software to solve
problems for our customers and to, design, analyze and test
complex highly engineered structures subject to severe dynamic loads.
Speaker 7 (48:12):
Severe oh my, god you loads so severe and. Dynamics uh,
so what they mean is something, nimble agile that can
adapt to changing circumstances on the. Ground, Absolutely but the
(48:34):
language is beat me, Here Dylan plice being, hilarious.
Speaker 3 (48:38):
Well, done well. Written does someone at uh does someone
in like a comedy writer's room have, this, like have
this website as their side, gig.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
It's gotta be so. YOU i just imagine writing some
of the copy for a lot of these defense, Contractors,
like oh my, god.
Speaker 4 (48:59):
It was, funny, Though matt is this is the same
kind of jargony speak that heggs get uses when you
make speeches LIKE i was talking, about like the use
of war fighter and a lot of, these you, know
really kind of macho terms and a lot of word
salad and it just feels very.
Speaker 2 (49:17):
Related that's all last thing on these, companies. GUYS i
haven't independently verified mccasline's direct connection to any of. These
our anonymous, caller you, know states pretty definitively that McCaslin
was a part of these. COMPANIES i haven't seen. THAT
i haven't like looked any of that up to actually verify.
THAT i don't know these other human beings connections to
(49:38):
some of these other. Companies if there are any that's
stuff we can do in the full researched version of
this just right now, again do it on your own
if you, can and then we're also going to be doing.
It let's just go down these. Names Monica Reza, jacinto
we talked about. Her she went Missing june twenty, second
twenty twenty. Five she worked At Aerojet Rocket dying Developed Mond,
(50:00):
alloy a family of nickel based super. Alloys they're used
for rocket engines and other military, tech very key important.
Stuff Major General william McCaslin disappeared On february twenty seventh
from his own. Home this is one of these guys
That anonymous is talking about the three body, problem leaving
specific items at, home such as his smart, watch prescription,
(50:23):
glasses and his, phone although taking with him his, wallet
red backpack and thirty eight caliber. Revolver then you've Got
John rossi that we. Mentioned this is a man who
according to The Army, times committed suicide back in twenty.
Sixteen the story there that we mentioned before In Strange,
news at least the official stories that he was under
(50:45):
a lot of stress as he was a two star
general preparing to get his third star and be bumped
up and get in charge of some very important. Things
you can look that up if you. Wish Jason, thomas
this is a new name for our discussions, here and
this is the person THAT i am the least knowledgeable
about when it comes to how he could be. Connected
(51:06):
he was an assistant director of chemical biology At. Novardes,
again this is like chemistry coming into a group of
people that are more associated with military, physics, technology, aerospace
those kinds of. Things this is chemical chemical. Biologist the story, here,
(51:28):
Though jason's story is probably the most intriguing when it
comes to a, disappearance, because according to his wife's, story
he had just lost both his. Parents he was in
a just you, know in a pretty bad. Way his
mother passed, away and then as he and his father
were preparing for the mother's, funeral his father suffered a
(51:49):
heart attack and essentially died in his. Arms the emotional,
toll mental toll of that we can't. Imagine but this, Person,
jason according to his, wife just kind of walked out
of the house one night after they both came. Home
they took care of the. Dogs then he just walked
out of the. House he put his phone in the,
(52:12):
Mailbox he left his wallet and. Everything he just and
he put his phone in the mailbox and then he
just walked off into the. Woods this occurred On december,
twelfth twenty twenty. Five you can then see. REPORTS i
haven't seen it, verified but allegedly a body was recovered
that is believed to be Possibly Jason thomas's. Body that
(52:34):
was On march, seventeenth twenty twenty, six when The Wakefield
Police department announced a body was recovered from a lake
nearby where he. Lived, again that one just we need
more info on, that but you recommend you read the
story FROM Nbc News massachusetts Man Jason thomas vanished From
wakefield three months? Ago have you seen? Him that was
(52:55):
published literally the day before the announcement that a body was.
Found but it has the most details on that story
of the wife just like everything seemed. Fine he's not, happy,
Right he's sad because of his life. Situation but then
he just. Chooses he doesn't say anything to his, Wife
he just walks. Away and she heard the metal mailbox
(53:15):
close is how she, knew, oh he's. Gone and then
she saw him walking down the street just, leaving and
then found his phone in. There, weird really. WEIRD i
don't know how to say this Name Nuno. Luiiro we
have mentioned this person before On Strange. NEWS i Think ben.
Did this is A mit nuclear physicist who was shot
(53:37):
and killed in his. Home the story there is very.
Strange this is a person who was killed by someone
he possibly, knew who had went to school with him.
Before very strange. Story he was a very important human.
Being he's recognized for advancements in plasma behavior and that's
(53:58):
not like blood, plasma talking about energy plasma and state
of matter like the sun and, fusion those kinds of.
Things very the scientific community reacted to his death as
a highly significant loss to literally the community absolutely and
(54:21):
to potential advances that could. Come last Person Carl. Grillmayer
this is another renowned scientist with The California institute Of.
Technology he is again another hugely important. Person according to The,
guardian his most remarkable achievement was detecting indications of water
(54:42):
on a distant planet orbiting a star different from The.
Sun so he's an astrophysics he does all kinds of
or he did all kinds of work for. Astronomy incredible
stuff In Los. Angeles he died from a bullet wound
to the torso back In. February there's a whole investigation
(55:03):
to this person Named Freddie. Snyder you can look that.
Up That's.
Speaker 3 (55:06):
Snyder and to be, clear is That february twenty twenty
five or twenty twenty?
Speaker 2 (55:13):
Six THIS i believe is twenty twenty six If i'm
looking at The, guardian just let me confirm. That, yes
they're reporting In february twenty twenty six that he died
in his. Home they're sixty seven years. Old we don't
know His if there are any direct connections or even
(55:36):
tenuous connections between these folks or as individuals right or
their work or, why if there's any possible motive or
timing that we should be looking into. Here so if
you have any direct like direct connections that we can,
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please please. Please that's all for, Now thank, you and on,
(55:59):
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