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Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well, guys, let's say we get into it. We have
so much, so much fascinating stuff. This is one of
our favorite programs of the week. We did want to
shout out the question of whether or not people's cats
see ghosts. You can probably hear my guy yelling at
one now, So thank you to Tania. Please let us
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break for a word from our sponsors, and then we
learn about even more strange things.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
And we're back. I got a couple of neat messages
from you, Yes, you, And this one comes from a listener,
a friend of ours from out there and conspiracy realist
Land goes by the name of drop Bear Whisperer. Not
a drop bear themselves, but one who coaxes and whispers
the fabled tartar grades. Right, isn't that what drop bears are? No? No, no, no,
(03:14):
water bears. Water bears are tartar gards. Drop bears are
the scary boys from the jungle. They jump down on you.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
They're the carnivorous koala.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Right right, No, not to be confused with the sweet
little boys that, while you know, alien in appearance, I
think would be a good hang the water bear or
the tarte gray. It's the drop bear whisperer here, says
the drop aar whisper just listens to listener mail episode
a couple weeks behind. No telling which one that was,
but maybe there will be some telling from context clues.
(03:43):
That's me. Not sure how far you followed this story,
But there is a project out there called Raven Eye
from a company called river Side Research. Not to be
confused with the river Side that we used to do
our audio and video for the podcast here. We don't think,
we don't think, No, we don't different company, but who
(04:06):
knows what people are up to, what shenanigans are going
on behind the scenes. Interesting tech, says drop air whisper
wondering how much computing power has been put up in
order to serve and power these systems super similar to
some other more public operations using open AI, anthropic and
palunteer tech. Drop air Whisperer then also mentions another company
(04:30):
doing stuff in the AI munitions slash, you know, war
machine space called Blue Halo. And I just wanted to
talk a little about these two companies before moving on
to a little bit more of a news item, because
I guess it makes perfect sense, and maybe this is
stating in the obvious that there's gonna be you know,
everyone can't be palenteer, and it is a feeding frenzy
(04:53):
for this kind of AI implementation of you know, the
weapons and technologies of war. So I did a little
bit of digging into these two companies just to give
a sense of what kinds of companies other than them
might be out there and what they might be up to.
Riverside Research. Weirdly enough, maybe this is more common than
(05:15):
I realize. A nonprofit considered an independent research organization that
was founded way back in nineteen seventy eight, would have
to imagine they've done some pivoting since then. And they
provide research and development, engineering and analytics services to you
guessed at the US government national security mostly sector, as
(05:37):
well as some public sector customers. They work with technologies
involving radar, RF and sensor arrays and systems, as well
as communications and networking, signal processing, cybersecurity. The most interesting
and I think probably relevant part of their business for
what we're talking about today is autonomy and AI, space
(06:01):
systems and survivability, electronic warfare and ISR or intelligence surveillance
and reconnaissance. And then they always have a little caveat
where but we also need to emphasize that human element
to check the work of the AI. And a big
project they're working on right now is something called raven Eye,
which doesn't sound spooky at all, which is an agentic
(06:24):
AI framework that This is from their website Riverside Research
dot org. Triages multi int data surfaces, decision ready insights
and recommends follow on tasks for human approval to accelerate
the intelligence cycle. Okay, So I think the key here
is that they're claiming they can speed up and streamline
(06:48):
intelligence and reconnaissance and surveillance. They can offer more consistent,
you know, prioritization of these complex systems, as well as
they're claiming improved decision quality via these kind of mixed
AI methods. Of course, as we often talk about in
(07:10):
the Continuing discussion, specifically in this administration of AI aifying
all of these methods of war and intelligence gathering, it
all depends on the quality of the technology, and it
seems like the technology in general isn't quite there yet,
and yet there's this desire to roll this stuff out
as fast as possible. We know a lot about problems
(07:32):
involving false positives and negatives that remain hugely risky and
require human validation. So the idea here from this company
at least now, is to integrate these systems into systems
involving human you know, I guess checkers kind of on
the back end, But I don't know, man, it just
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seems like I just don't know how much stock I
put into that, because we just know that the the
priority a lot of these companies and especially you know,
the government, it would seem these days, is to remove
the human element and kind of automate a lot of
this stuff. So I just wonder if this is sort
of like a pr line of no, no, no, no, we're
having the human element, it's very important to us, or
(08:17):
if that's just sort of like a way to sort
of placate the public while they figure out how to
do away with that element entirely. I think it's the latter.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, yeah, removing the human the human element, such as
the member of the Board of Trustees with doctor Neil mccaslan.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yes, right, precisely.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, that specifically of Riverside Research.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
No, yeah, no, no, one hundred percent. And also like
it just seems like the there's a lot of inconvenient
truths involved in using this kind of stuff and depending
on this kind of stuff, and I think that's why
we are seeing so much problematic treatment of scientists and
potentially even assassination of people that are kind of being
the voice of reason.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Oh no, let's go, let's go to the current board
of trustees, because they've got their fingers in a lot
of pies. As al Pacino would have said in Devil's Advocate,
these are some heavy hitters, fellow conspiracy realist. And as
you can tell, I share Nole's opinion here that the
(09:24):
drop Bear Whisperer, this.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Is not going to be on the up and up right.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It's it's what we're saying is using the human element
to better eliminate the human element. Essentially, right, people selling
people to people.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well, we're training our replacements. That is a problems there too,
is that it's all about who's training the technology, because
you can't. I think there's this sense that maybe in
a perfect world, in some kind of utopian world, we
have this all knowing, all seeing, you know, complete egalitarian
AI that's going to just always make the right choice
(10:04):
given the circumstances and choose, you know, what's right for
everybody the most, you know, I guess charitable version of
that that we might see in sci fi. But then
there's always that backlash and that problem where it all
depends on who's programming the technology and what the best
choice might mean. And then is there a version where
(10:25):
this AI kind of starts to retrain itself and reprioritize
some of this stuff. And I know that we're not
there yet and that AI is such a loaded term.
We are not yet talking about some kind of singularity
event where this technology becomes self aware. But I can't
not think about little glimpses of that, where these these
systems are conjuring ideas out of whole cloth that we're
(10:48):
not programmed into them at all.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Breaking air gapped isolation, re refiguring the ASMOV level like
axioms that they have been given. This is interesting because
humanity is building a tool it doesn't understand, and it's saying, hey,
(11:10):
are you our panacea? Are you our next nuclear weapon?
And for now to your point, drop bear whisper. It
seems that they're getting in front of the legislation once again.
This is just the easiest use case mass surveillance.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah. I just thought it was worth mentioning because we're
just really, you know, kind of harping on Palenteer because
they're the biggest name out there and we didn't really
even know what the hell they were up to until
the last couple of years because of certain you know,
news items. But of course it stands to reason that
there's a ton of these other companies that are doing
things similar behind the scenes. Another one that dropped bear
Whisperer mentions is Blue Halo that holds a forty nine,
(11:52):
among many others, a forty nine point nine million dollar
contract with the Naval Information Warfare CUND need I say more,
five year award to deliver electronic warfare sensor systems and
related services. And all this stuff is of course wrapped
up in this predictive AI modeling.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Oh oh no, real quick, Can I point out for
you drop here this is something I think that is
something I think will be important for all of us
in the audience tonight with Riverside Research.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Please do check out.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Raven Eye's approach to AI. We've got to say the
quiet part allowed, and I'm sure Blue Halo is doing
something similar. Raven I is bragging and wants you to
spend money so they can help you. Quote detect sentiment shifts,
protest planning, foreign influence at emergent threats end quote.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yep again, mccaslan was on the word of trustees of
that one and Blue Halo. Did you find this, Noel.
We talked about this a couple weeks ago on listener mail.
Blue Halo was acquired by Aero Vironment or rather AeroVironment
and Blue Halo became one thing. And before that, Blue
Halo merged with this thing called ATA Applied Technology Services.
(13:12):
And guess who was the director of technology at ATA.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Who was the director of technology at ATCHEL.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
General Doctor Neil McCaslin.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Oh, No, you are so wonderfully hung up on this
guy for good as ros. His name keeps popping. Dude,
it's wild. I hope most people are A hundred percent No,
I don't. I just think it's fascinating and I'm so
glad that you've taken this this particular bone and run
with it, Matt, because it really is proving to just
it's like this canary in the coal mine. Speaking of
(13:42):
canary in the coal mine, I just wanted to mention
a story that I saw on I always say guy's
name Moist Critical, Penguin, Zero, Charlie something. He's a YouTuber
who I really like. He's got long black hair, and
he's got some fun takes, and.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
He's pretty funny most of the time. I like the
way he talks.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I I love him so much. I just adore him,
and god dang, he's one of the good ones. He
gets like within five minutes of posting a video, it's
practically got a million views. And it's because he's just
a good guy and has like interesting takes and just
like seems like he puts his money where his mouth is.
He lives on a farm in Florida. He's just I
don't know. I just think he seems like a good fellow.
And he posted a video of which there were a
(14:18):
few examples recently of tech CEOs or former tech folks
speaking at commencement ceremonies and just kind of glazing ai
and just being met with voracious booze from the audience.
Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt was met with students booze
at a university commenced an address in Arizona on Sunday.
(14:39):
When he raised the topic of artificial intelligence and its effects,
he let's see the topic struck a nerve of anxiety
within the student body when he traced technologies evolution through
the laptop, which he said had to democratize knowledge and
led to prosperity, to the smartphone, the internet, and social media.
He said, we thought that we were adding stones to
a cathedral of knowledge that human had been constructing for centuries,
(15:02):
but the world we built turned out to be more
complicated than we anticipated. The same tools that connect us
also isolate us. The same platforms that give everyone a
voice like you're using now degraded the public square. I know.
And it's basically saying all this stuff as a preface
to like give yourselves to AI. It's the most you know,
(15:23):
it's the most logical next step in the evolution of technology.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And I know that all the students stood up and
said no.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, And it's not some sort of luddite perspective. It's
another example of people just being trepidacious about these money people,
just letting this genie out of the bottle before knowing
what it's capable of doing. And now it's getting integrate. Dude,
I know, and that's absurd. Nothing is inevitable, but I
guess when it comes to money making and the industrial
(15:53):
military industrial complex, maybe inevitable is the right way of
looking at it. But it doesn't have to be it
just as the you know, the particulars of the world
and the country specifically that we live in. He says
here this is there's a fear in your generation that
your future has already been written, that the machines are coming,
that the jobs are evaporating. Of course he's saying all
this like in woo wu terms, that the climate is breaking,
(16:14):
that politics are fractured, and that you were inheriting a
mess that you did not create. The question is not
whether AI will shape the world. It will. The question
is whether you will have shaped artificial intelligence. Jesus so
toned ouf Man Shoutrick Williams read the room. Yes, indeed,
I just mentioned this as a like canary in the
(16:36):
coal mine of it. All people are not happy. Young
people are not happy about this stuff. And it's just
getting integrated into all these real scary systems that could
cause some real dystopian scenarios to to you know, come
to pass.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We just got to starve the beast man. If you're
not giving it any input, it can't eat and it
can't survive. So we just got to kill the dang
beasts by not ever using any of it. Ever. Well,
I've like, stop doing it right now. I know, I know, everybody,
just stop using it.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Hey, personal psa from stuff they don't want you to know.
Are you a fan of water? We hope so we
are too, and get this so our data centers shout
out to Tahoe, which we'll discuss in an upcoming Strange
News program.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You just need to give all these guys Mars. Just say,
you guys can go build as many data centers on
Mars as you want. You can do anything you want
on Mars. You just can't do any of it here
on Earth anymore.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So leave.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Get the fuck out.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Would be nice, It would be nice. I'm gonna wrap
that one up, And honestly, that yielded a bit more
conversation than I was expecting. It's one of those things
where you feel like you can just drop a little
detail and move on. But man, no, this is such
a can of worm, so appreciate it. Drop air with ber.
I will just in the time that I have left,
mentioned another piece of correspondence that came through from our
pal Matt, who mentioned a story that I was not
(18:04):
personally aware of, but it does kind of ring a
bell now that I'm thinking about it, that maybe we've
discussed at the very least some aspect of this, the
idea of revaluating the gold that may or may not
be in Fort Knox, because obviously, you know, of late
there have been plenty of conspiracy discussions around. Is there
even any goal? Is it going to be one of
those Heraldo opening the vault and there's just like a
(18:25):
candy wrapper in there, you know, like a iowe you
written in crayon. But this I did not know this.
The gold that may or may not be in Fort
Knox is valuated at like nineteen seventies prices, yes, and
it would require a audit, which is I don't understand
why that's such a big ask, And I no wonder
(18:47):
people are wondering if it's bs or not. You'd think
audits like that would happen all the time. There's all
this talk about missing gold bricks or whatever. No one
talks about heisting Fort Knox anymore. That was like a
Bond movie, I believe, plot point like, but again that
was back in the seventies as well. Yeah, no one's
talking about this stuff. And so Trump, I believe, has,
(19:10):
among others, has A called for this audit, and b
called for this potential revaluing of the gold to modern
prices which are booming. So I just don't understand why
that wouldn't have already be done. But I guess I
do understand because it could. If it is, we're obviously
not on a gold standard anymore. So what what economic
(19:31):
factors would this throw into disarray? Oh? It kind of doesn't.
It create some sort of standardization for the value of
precious metals. But it it's so outdated, and we know
the price of gold is through to freaking roof. How
does that? How is that relevant?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So here's here's my pitch for you, Baron, Eaton. This
seems to be in to answer your question there, and
this seems to be to my mind, an attempt to
repair the reputation economic of the United States. Uh, because
primarily the well Uncle Sam's had a lot of fumbles.
(20:09):
So if we can revaluate whatever is or is not
in the Schrodinger's Fort of Knox, then we can all
of a sudden have new standing in the economic order
of the globe overall, which allows institutions, government and private
(20:30):
to make increasingly crazy draft Kings level bets.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
But why hasn't that already happened? I just don't understand.
It seems really suspicious.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It has in the past, which kind of informed that
that Excellent, I messed the point you're talking about, Yeah for.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Sure, No, No, actually, absolutely, Ben, And I'm sorry. I messed up.
I called him Matt, but that's not I mean, there's
a lot of mats in the world. I don't think
that constitutes is a doc same Baron Eaton is a nickname.
I didn't even read dream Mom, and I'm not going
read the whole thing, but just a couple of bits
because there's some interesting questions and thoughts here. It is
the most least It is the most least patriotic all
of us, all the man who has two feet in
(21:08):
different lands and has no soul to evaluate Baron Eaton.
As always, I released this missive for discussion on all platforms.
If your choosing what a well spoken into a class
speaking of gold, I would be curious of what you
all think of America's mad scrambled to quote cook the
books and start the revaluation process of the Golden Fort
Knox as well as the Federal Land to get the
asset classes balanced. After all this nonsense about us having
(21:31):
quote too much debt, I listened to an interesting talk
take rather on the slow valuation of the Golden Fort Knox,
if it is even there anymore, of course, and the
Act of Congress it would take to conduct such a thing.
Since the prices are locked in at nineteen seventies level
gold pricing. It makes me wonder what this will do
to the rest of the metal markets once this happens.
My question as well, Baron Eaton, and then the selling
(21:53):
off of a small chunk of federal land to private
equity would allow the entire federal land to be reevaluated
at the newest sale to spike the books. I find
it interesting to see all the creative bookkeeping going on
to try and do what they can do to make
it all work instead of just biting the bullet and
trying to you know, balance the budget. There you go,
(22:14):
and then doing a little bit of digging, I found
a couple of takes from economists as to what this
would do what reevaluing would and wouldn't do. It could
change reported assets on a government financial statements or on
government financial statements, and could create a one time on
paper gain, but it would not by itself this is
(22:35):
from Forbes, create spendable cash or automatically cancel public debt.
So it does seem like more of a flex than
a fix. And of course we do have tons of
online chatter involving conspiracy claims about gold being missing questions
about the purity of the gold speculative plans i e.
Backing new currency or some sort of sovereign wealth or
(22:55):
bitcoin reserve, or transferring into that. However, most mainstream news
and treasury officials do approach those particular claims with skepticism,
because of course they would. I don't know, That's all
I got for that, guys, Matt, you got any thoughts
about the gold of it all?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I was just looking at the A four hundred ounce
gold bar in nineteen seventy five was worth sixty four
thousand dollars. Do you know how much it's worth today.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It's got to be close to a million bucks, right.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
One point eight million dollars.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, it's crazy, just.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
That I'm trying to imagine what that would do. And
I don't know enough about money markets and all that stuff,
but if you did what we're talking about here, it
does feel like it would have a pretty massive effect
of some sort.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, I guess I just don't understand why it's held
to a different standard, Like why does it have to
be reevaluated like revalued? Like if there if gold is
a commodity and there is a market that dictates the
price of that commodity. Why does it have to be
reevaluated in order it to now be worth that new amount.
It's confusing to me.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I just think exists.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But that's what I'm getting to like, why is there?
I mean, it makes sense to be more skeptical as
to how much is in there because it's such a
black box. All right, Well, I think that's all I've
got time for today. Thank you so much to Baron,
Eaton and drop aar whisper to take a quick break
here worth more sponsor, and then we'll come back more
messages from you.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And we've returned. Guys. Recently, we've been talking about poulter geists.
We've been talking about potential possessions and spirits and that
other realm that is just out of touch for most
of us. And we got a message here from Hidalgo
to tell us about another potential Poultergeist, haunting, possessing that's
(24:52):
out there in the world. And I believe it is
something we have touched on before on the show, at
least briefly. So we'll hear from Hidalgo and then jump
in for just a moment, travel to Ohio and then
back here to the good old state of Georgia. So
let's go. Here's Adalgo.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Good morning, gentlemen, they call me Hidalgo. I just finished
listening to your latest episode regarding the possession of the
home in Indiana. You may want to follow up with
an additional story that you can probably find information on
the Skeptical Inquirer about the Columbus polt. You guys, this
is a case that happened in nineteen eighty four. There
(25:32):
were several pictures and quite a bit of coverage. The
young lady, fourteen years old, Tino Rausch, was later convicted
of murder as an adult. I have very memories of
this case. I was right about twelve years old when
this happened, and I also remember this as the day
that I had breakfast with the amazing Randy Loyally Recory
(25:55):
names that you had brought up recently. Also, William Roll
was involved for the family, if I recall correctly. So
there is a little story for you in the for
the future. And it's a great day. Thank you very much.
And you can use us as a radio thing or
her podcasting. Oh my god, I said, radio wings so free.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Nice, very good.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
It is still kind of radio.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
It's just crazy the way, like, what is that bed
of mind hot thing? Like I was literally just texting
with a friend yesterday who asked me about the Amazing
Randy and I hadn't thought about that man in forever,
and then I remember that we all have a prince
of the Amazing Randy as a Simpson that someone gave
us the way we interviewed, and I was totally forgetting
and spacing as to who that was.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Was I in a cult?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
That's right? Yep?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, pretty awesome stuff still hanging out over here too.
That guy was a fascinating individual. And you can watch
a whole documentary about his life. The name of it
and escapes me right now.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
But just that's right. We did watch it, folks, I
promise we watched it.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, you search for the Amazing Randy documentary you find
it again. Fascinating character, awesome human being at least for
his pursuits in work, like that's some incredible stuff, trying
to prove to everyone that unfortunately, at least you know,
according to the Amazing Randy and a lot of the
things that he did, psychic powers, esp. And all the
(27:25):
fun things that we love to think about on this
show probably don't exist, or at least he was unable
to get anyone to prove them for a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
He was also will point out a man of great delight, Hildalgo.
He took great delight in pursuing what he saw as
his mission there. It's phenomenal that you have an association
with Randy, whom we I believe. None of us got
a chance to meet the amazing Randy in person, but
(27:56):
we check in with our wija boards and if he
gets back to us, you'll be the first to know.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's right. Jumping to other things that you talked about
their Hidalgo, the Columbus poulter Geist, and Tina Rausch. You
can go to a couple different places. We prefer Columbus
Monthly because you don't have to pay anything to read
their articles from twenty fifteen, which is really nice of them.
You also don't have to read their articles from twenty
twenty four. Again, good on you, Columbus Dispatch, thanks so much.
(28:26):
You can find an article titled classic Columbus ghost Stories
The Columbus Poltergeist. This is a pretty short little write up,
but we can give you some of the main points here,
and I'm gonna read directly from this from September twenty ninth,
twenty fifteen, again Columbus Monthly. In nineteen eighty four, a
flying telephone and other disturbances at the home of John
and Joan Rausch captured the curiosity of the entire country.
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The Rausch's daughter, Tina, then fourteen, seemed to possess telekinetic
powers that caused objects to move of their own accord,
sometimes violently. Her parents had a loss for what to do,
called the Columbus Dispatch reporter Mike Harden, whom they knew
because he'd written about them before. Harden visited the Rausches
with photographer Fred Shannon and began to write about Tina
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and the bizarre happenings around her. So this is a
This is a reporter, a journalist and a photographer hanging
out at the Rausch's house because there's been all kinds
of tales about Tina using telekinesis on all the household things.
So this is kind of cool, right, cool situation to
be in. Here we go, the glass of a framed
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picture appeared to shatter in her hands. This is while
they're there checking her out, A lamp flew off a
table next to her, and most famously, a telephone appeared
to fling itself across her lap in a photo caught
by Shannon. If you read a little bit about this
famous photograph that you can find right now, it's a
picture of Tina sitting in a chair and a phone
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that's on. You know, remember when phones had chords?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Guys, Yes, I have I.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Have an account of this Time Life's Mystery of the Unknown.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Oh oh, amazing.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Oh, and just really quickly, Matt, I was watching a
movie with my kid the other day and the power
was out and someone made a phone call and my
kid was like, how can they do that when the
power's out? And it just made me feel old and
it was a fun little conversation. And I had then
thought about how amazing it is that you can make
phone calls without power.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
And without dismissing Time Life Mysteries of the Unknown. Matt,
can you tell us a little bit more about this
photograph and this incident?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh yeah, so you can find the photo of that
if you look up the story I just said, classic
Columbus ghost stories Columbus Poultery Ice. You can see this picture.
It is a corded telephone that many of us will recognize,
but right next to a different corded phone that is
on the ringer and sitting next to her. It's very strange.
There were a lot of phones in this picture, a
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lot of a lot of those those old telephone tables.
You know, they're all sweet swirly, yeah, swirly and squiggly. Anyway,
that photograph made a big splash when it came out.
But here you go. This is continuing from Columbus Monthly.
You might predict how this story goes. A horde of
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ghost hunter types, skeptics, clergy and onlookers descended on the
Roush home. Eventually they were turned away, and the Columbus
poltergeist faded into an irreconcilable cloud of belief and skepticism.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Oh beautiful writing.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yes, but here's the sad ending, which is another thing
that was mentioned by Hidalgo. The story has a sad ending,
very much real. That fourteen year old girl grew up
to be Tina Boyer also known as Christina Boyer, who
lived a difficult adolescence and adulthood until she was convicted
in nineteen ninety four. For her part in the beating
(31:46):
death of her toddler daughter Amber. Yeah, this is and
I'm not going to go too much into this. We
found an article from the pH Museum. You can find
it P eight museum dot com the Verdict the Christina
Boyer Case. It discusses how on April fourteenth, nineteen ninety two,
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a then twenty two year old known as Christina Boyer.
This is Tina, this is Tina Boyer, drove off to
work in Carroll County, Georgia, just west of Atlanta, Georgia,
and gosh, their three year old daughter was I'm not
going to read the whole thing. The daughter was killed
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and also her boyfriend there and she ended up getting
life in prison, and the boyfriend also got a severe sentence.
Really really, I don't even want to talk about it,
but it's a horrible story. I guess the connection there,
you could we could have a longer and more in
depth discussion about any potential connection there to whatever happened,
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you know, when she's fourteen years old and and there
are reporters descending upon her house, you know, and all
kinds of different folks with I would say, a motive
to gain something from Tina right and from the entire family.
And what does that do to you? What happens with that?
What does that do to the rest of your life?
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Is that why you go on to change your name?
Are there other circumstances? They're so very little that we
actually know. It's a very sad story though. Anyway, learn
about all of that you want to. There's another Columbus
Dispatch article you can read from November fourteenth, twenty twenty four.
Did Columbus girl have telekinetic ability in nineteen eighty four?
How did her life turn out? And you can get
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some more details there. Okay, well, Hidalgo, thank you for
putting us on all of that and bringing up the
amazing Randy again. That is just an awesome thing for
all of us to remember and for all of us
to check out one last quick message here and then
we'll get out of here for this segment. More Broccoli
called in. You guys, do you remember a time when
more Broccoli would call in three times a day?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I do, Hello, it's great to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, we got a quick one from her because she
wants to put us on something, maybe sending for us
to check out track down, get our thoughts on it,
So let's go jump to more broccoli.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Hey, guys, it's more broccoly Calling from Sacramento, California. I
was just recently in the Tampa area in Florida for
a little while working, one of the guys rented the
new Bob Lazarre movie S four and it was so good.
I know you guys are familiar with the story. It's
(34:39):
very well done, and my dad has since watched like
a two hour long interview with Bob Lasar and he
says that it's very accurate and that they did a
really good job remaking all the different types of alien
tech that he says that he saw. And you know,
I think that there's a lot more to what the
govern knows and what they are choosing to not tell us.
(35:04):
There is something to be said for Trump pushing for
more disclosure with the common public than other presidents in
the past, but I think it's probably also to distract
from Epstein and all that, you know. So anyway, I
just wanted to tell you guys that and say hello
(35:25):
because it's been a minute. Hope you all are doing
well and I will talk to you later.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Boom boom boom, boom that website though, y'all that X
files freaking geo Citi's website.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I mean either the one with all the disclosure stuff. Yes,
put out of the distraction of.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
It all shiny website and and thank you for reaching out,
Thank you for reaching out.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
More broccoli.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Guys, have have we watched the Wizard documentary?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I have yet.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I have not seen it yet.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
No, it is on my list of things to do
at night when the kids are asleep. Very Sleeping Dog
is definitely on their Sleeping Dog is a documentary documentary
that came out this year, twenty twenty six. It's all
about our buddy, Jeremy Corbell. It's all about how he
has emerged as this like person that everybody goes to
(36:26):
when we're talking about a whistleblower. They reach out to Jeremy. Now.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, and there's a lot of more broccoli. There's a
lot of Bob Lazar lore in that one.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Oh, Jeremy's done an entire huge documentary with Bob and
spent a lot of time, you know, in person with Bob.
You can check that stuff out. Very interesting. As for
S four, the Bob Lazar story, this is it looks
nuts because guys, these folks they got a video game
(36:57):
graphics developer like world creator to partner with them, and
they went through and created an entire world essentially, that
is the S four facility that Bob Blazar allegedly worked at.
This thing that's in the Papoose Mountain range, like underneath
the mountain, inside the mountain by Groom Lake over there
by area fifty one. They created the Sport model, which
(37:20):
is something that Bob Blazar has pretty consistently spoken of,
a specific UFO UAP that he allegedly worked on, like
saw inside of all kinds of other stuff, and he
was working on proprietary technology according to his story, having
to do with the propulsion systems of these craft that
(37:40):
were you know, there were numerous versions of them. There's
there's so much to go into when it comes to
the Bob Blazar story. Check out our episode for sure.
We did a full Bob Blazar episode. Correct at some point.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Give me a second, fellas. It feels like, oh gosh,
I hope we're not in a Tarot card moment where
we realize we haven't, but we've definitely spoken about Lazarre. Yeah,
strange story of Bob Lazar. Yes, you can check that
out more Broccoli from August of twenty twenty two. It's
(38:16):
it's a pretty big it's pretty banger. I'd say it's
pretty yes, actually.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Well it's good. But we made it without Bob's input, right,
We used sources that exist out there and you know,
try to do some evaluation of Bob and his story.
But again, somebody like Jeremy has spent physical time with
him and done that kind of stuff. Then the people
over at Project Gravitur, which is the name of the
(38:41):
I guess LLC that Luigi Ventatelli and Christopher Matteo, who
these are two guys who they co directed as four
and they are also working together on this thing called
Project Gravitor, And you can go to a website Project
Gravitor check it out. You can also go to the
website we Are Not Alone dot com and check out
(39:03):
more just on this collaboration and what they're trying to
do eventually. According to a behind the scenes video that
you can find says behind the scenes of Project Gravitor
from Luigi Vndatelli, and they're talking about using Unreal Engine
five to create basically a virtual walkthrough of the S
(39:23):
four facility, which guys, to me, sounds amazing. I want
to do that. I want to go to there, all right, Well, again,
there's so much to check out there. I did, guys,
I recently just randomly reached out to Jeremy because of
this S four thing, and if we're interested, he definitely
would be down to come back on. I would be
(39:45):
done to have him out.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I love hanging out with you, Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
He's got He had released some pretty cool new stuff online,
this thing called Project Rubik's Cube that I had never
heard of before, but allegedly there's maybe some people that
know about this UAP program again called Rubik's Cube. And
check out Jeremy Corbel's Instagram and a couple other places.
You can see him talking with a potential whistleblower about that.
(40:13):
We should I want to I want to know more,
so we should do that, all right, signing off for now,
Thanks more broccoli, Thanks Adalgo. We'll be right back with
more messages from.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
You, and we have returned. Fellow conspiracy realist. We've got
one one interesting, perhaps fun one for us, and then
we've got one that is gonna hopefully irritate you at
(40:44):
least as much as it irritates me. And then we're
going to end with some very serious feedback that we
need to stay with you.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
So here we go.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
First, up, we've got hi, it's your favorite hotel. Yay,
hotel year, I like hotel yea, what do we think? Yeah,
it sounds fancy, for sure, sounds I say yay. All right,
say nay, we've got.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Your favorite hotel.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Agent astronaut chick. And you say, I was listening to
your May fourth Strange News segment and thought you guys
might find it interesting to hear my experience with a
US president staying at one of our hotels. I'm getting
it too fancy. No, we'll say the h hotels, So
you say ancient astronaut chick. When my husband and I
(41:32):
lived in downtown Denver, my husband worked at the president's
hotel of choice. Not only that, our apartment was across
the alley and was taller than the hotel, so we
could see the hotel from our apartment window.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Context for later.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
So on the day of the check in, the Secret
Service would set up a TSA style screening for anyone
going into the hotel. Around the building, there were squads
of armed men on the corners only let people through
that lived in the buildings or were staying at the
hotel on the block. Anyone else had to go another route,
and large U haul style box trucks were also filled
(42:12):
with weapons and I guess just standing around. In fact,
most of the vehicles, says ancient astronaut Chick, were part
of the.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Secret service detail.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Like all the vehicles around the street were working for Potus,
which means you, if you're American, were paying for it.
They were very, very armed. From our apartment we could
see several snipers stationed on top of the hotel as well.
The president was Joe Biden at the time and would
not use the main entrance.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
No one would know.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Wait, let me make this sound more biblical, Tennessee, keep
all this in and no one would know the time
of his arrival or his departure and biblical voice. Another
funny thing is that his hotel room had to be
prepped with foam pads guys on every sharp corner of
the furniture anti slipmats. It is apparently his.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Writer helmets were issued to all those.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
His writer included Vidilla ice cream because that was his favorite,
which seems without getting political. That seems so Joe Biden. Anyway,
you continue, AA chick, you say, I cannot speak for
a presidential event, but for a presidential stay, the hotel
is made aware well in advance. Security is not set
(43:37):
up until the day of his arrival, which we'll get
back to there. It is definitely prepared before the president arrives.
It's a huge hassle. It's a headache for hotels, and
every other guest with a bad luck to stay there
has to submit their luggage to screenings. If you have
no business in the hotel, you are not allowed to stay.
(43:59):
The secret serve actually kicked me out when I was
there on my husband's shift because I was hoping to
beat the president. Anyway, you say, this is my experience
with the US President staying one of our hotels, and
it is also below our apartment. I can't say it's
the same procedure for every place, but we went through
this process twice with the first lady and then again
(44:21):
with the President himself. I've been listening to you all
show since twenty eighteen. Keep up the good work. Please
feel free to use my nickname and read this email
on the air. Ancient astronaut chick, we got to you,
and this is I don't want to exclude anybody ever
in conversation, but this is something of particular interest to
(44:44):
people who have to live in Atlanta. In the past. Guys,
we have collectively experienced horrific traffic. That's what we associate
presidential visits with. Any time, like it doesn't matter who
you vote for if you live in Atlanta, anytime you
hear the president of the United States is coming, you
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assume it's going to take four hours to get anywhere
at all, and I just remain indoors.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah No, they should do it as like a pandemic
lockdown warning because otherwise, well you will remain indoors because
you're probably not going to be able to get out
of your car again for hours. It also reminds me
of twenty fifteen when Barack Obama visited a political establishment
of notes here a place called Manuals. They went into
(45:38):
serious lockdown. They changed the light bulbs.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Political establishment of note and home of a banger. What
is it, Rubin now, Patty you like the Patty Miil.
I like the Patty milt.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Oh you know what, I like, what do you like
that the pinball machines they do have.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
And they're still just a quarter I think.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Oh, Tennessee, you went off mute, he came back on.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
So please bro, tell us, tell us shout out to
the chicken Parmesan, very.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Good Manual's Folks is a place where the deal makers
of certain political parties in Atlanta hang out, and when
Barack Obama, then president, visited, it was this hole to do.
This is also, by the way, guys, speaking of local lore.
(46:30):
The same night he visited, someone got shot again out
back of the murder Kroger. And we don't know exactly
what the president at the time was eating, but just
so you know, ancient astronaut Chick, we are familiar with
the tremendous inconvenience of hosting a president, and fellow conspiracy realist,
(46:56):
we would love to hear your stories about those run ends.
Do you associate the most dangerous position in the known
world with awesome good to hang out or do you
associate it with Oh my god, my day's ruined. This
guy just blew up the airport. Sorry, poor choice of words.
(47:17):
This guy ruined the airport for a day.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
This guy took a really big poop in the airport.
This guy just housed the airport.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, it's so funny because nowadays where I live, you guys,
I associate Saturdays with horrific traffic here because every day
I head towards the city. Now it feels like the
president is here. Don't understand it, that is true. And
coming out your way from the city is so bad.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, Oh jeez, look at us. We're gonna be in
the same retirement home complaining about traffic.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I have a question for ancient astronaut chic. Was it
the Monaco? Was it the Monaco in downtown Denver off
Champa Street.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
We don't want to put you on blasts, so write
us back, but we do have to keep it moving.
In our weekly Listener mail segment, we have one more
thing that should be front of mine to you, wherever
you live. Hear that well, hear it in italics here
at underlined, here it highlighted, wherever you live. This comes
(48:29):
to us courtesy.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
Of the road Runners.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Call love the name you say. Hey, Ben Matt Nolan, Tennessee,
longtime listener, first time emailer. I've been listening with interest
on your conversations about shot stopper and ring doorbell cameras
and their use by police. I came across this article
about Flock surveillance cameras this morning and a lawsuit in Norfolk,
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Virginia against their use.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
I had not heard of.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Flock before, but they claim their cameras are in use
in five thousand US communities. I'm also suspicious of their
claims that quote, our company will have eliminated crime in
this country in ten years end. Quote what do you think.
I'd love to hear your take on this company and
the question of constitutionality of mass media security cameras and
(49:19):
general take care. The road runners call dude, Thank you,
road runners, call you take care. This is everywhere. Atlanta,
Georgia is actually the most surveiled city in all of
the United States right now.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
It is true.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
And I advanced to the airport because of the way
law enforcement is able to access ring cameras and flock cameras.
And I'll say this, because of the way moos that
have been rolling out mass nap always.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
Surveyed every corner.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
I think they're inventing a religion. I hope they're becoming
sentient because I think we all saw the the waimos
circling that one called us act I.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
Thinks away from sentience if they're doing that, Dylan sent
us to the group thread in Atlanta. People have been
spotting these weymo is just glitching out and just do
that's the same one I saw, Dylan. Did you send that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Didn't you, Dylan, Yeah, that's secreticity.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
I just responded dystopian.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
I think we're I think we're onto something. But before
you know, there's a wide chasm between benevolent a g
I and uh you know, dystopian. As you said, no
government surveillance. If you are interested in learning more about
the problems with flock cameras, please check out de flock Atlanta. Uh,
(50:50):
that's that's an excellent website. To visit their dot org
so you know they're legit.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Uh huh uh.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
You can also read about the student protests that are
happening on the West Coast, especially the students who have
a bit of technical acumen. If you go to the
Tribune on just May sixteenth, two days ago, as we
record on May eighteenth, you can see that a group
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of col Poly students and local community members have marched
through campus protesting the flock cameras that are everywhere, Like,
how often, guys, if you got your records pulled, how
often would you know? Or you Matt or you Tennessee
expect that you show up somewhere on a public facing camera.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
I don't leave the house too much, to be honest,
here in Atlanta anyway, I mainly go places when I travel,
so I'm not so worried about being surveilled here in Atlanta.
But I don't know, maybe once a month roughly, But
that's just thinking about my traveling my like, you know,
going out of doors, habits time a way mow drives
(52:01):
beside you.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Do you need to go to a grocery store?
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Oh, you're right, I do that.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Do you go get Target too? Oh? No, yeah, dude,
it's at every time you leave the house.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
At my house, I've.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Got cameras all over my house on purpose, guys, And
they run twenty four to seven. They record twenty four
to seven. So every time I leave the house or
go in the house or exit my house, there is
a record of me doing that. And I'm doing that
on purpose. They're not connected to anything or to anybody
else or any system, but there will be a record
(52:36):
if something happens, y'all can jump into the system and
see it.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
Tell me all the timeline.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah, but I don't want you know, but that kind
of thing, like this choice that we're all or rather
the local governments in every town across this country are
making four of the citizens who live in those places
are now you can you can look up local news
flock camera, and then your city flock camera, your state,
(53:06):
and you will see that there is controversy happening right now.
Right now, I'm looking at one about Cleveland, about the mayor,
mayor bib choose a surveillance over answers when it comes
to flock safety. And there everybody's doing it, choosing this
stuff because it's safe.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Well they're also making some money off of it too.
What yeah, what, Oh my gosh, So the road runners
call One thing that I think you should check out
as well. Is an excellent article from earlier last month
on The Guardian. This is courtesy of George Cheaty Creepy Surveillance.
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Why some cities are shutting down flock cameras amid privacy concerns.
This is a huge deal. This is crazy that we
are beating the United Kingdom in mass surveillance. Also, I
was talking about this with our pals Jack and so
over on the Daily Zeitgeist. I've accepted it, but I'm
(54:05):
hacking it the way I hacked sponsored ads. You know, like,
if you want to hack your sponsored ads, talk around
your phone about very fancy things like your habit of
new fancy watches, or how we love to go to
the Monoco in Denver or Monaco of the country and
the monocles or monocles, how we love to wear monocles,
(54:25):
and the way you hack mass surveillance. At least, what
I was pitching on Daily Zeitgeist is you just drive
to places that make you look like a better person.
So I was saying, you know, I just drive to
the gym, I drive to the yoga place, I park
in the back, I visibly walk to you know, a
(54:46):
vegan co op. I visibly am seen. I am in
public going to a food pantry to volunteer. Build up
your fingerprint and your persona. If you cannot avoid it,
then you can play with it.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
What if they see you, let's say, on the gaming
floor at Baha.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
Mar They might not know it's they might not know
who it is.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Come on, we'd be what.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Okay, you are wearing a wristband that is like trackable.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
Oh my gosh, everywhere.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah, we are being heavily tracked. The takeaway from here
Roadrunners Call is just to keep it brief. I think
Flock is an episode in the future and we can't
get it out soon enough.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
I think you mentioned flock before in twenty twenty two. Yes,
on a listener Mail episode we were talking you linked
to the Flock safety website. Yes, so like this is
something we've been talking about.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Yeah, yeah, in our weekly listener Mail segment way back
in twenty twenty two, we were talking about this and
we're only talking about it because the concerns were already growing.
So the best advice here, or not even advice, the
best insight here the Roadrunners Call and all of us listening,
is that you are being actively surveilled to a level
(56:14):
you perhaps don't understand. And all the stuff that's coming
out now in twenty twenty six has been happening for years.
So if you were hearing this, you have a profile,
you have a fingerprint, you have a footprint. Will it
be used against you? That's a story for another evening.
And you know, guys, yeah, it's got to be an episode.
(56:38):
We always endeavor to end this program, especially on a
good note, but we have to end on something really
serious tonight.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Okay, just as we wrap up.
Speaker 4 (56:51):
Okay, this is very serious and.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
We very much value corrections and clarifications. This show cannot
happen without you.
Speaker 4 (57:00):
So we received.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
A sobering message from a good friend of the show,
fellow conspiracy realist GP Scooch. Gentle persons, Scooch here again,
I was surprised during your discussion of the Naga that
you did not mention their near extinction. Certainly you recall
how post World War II styles saw the Naga hunted
(57:23):
for their hides, which were then dyed and used as
a cheap alternative to leather. Naga hide could be found
in many colors and is still found in diners, bars
and restaurants across the world. Fortunately, plastic fabrics have replaced
the Naga hide in new construction and they are slowly repopulating.
(57:45):
If this helps, feel free to use it, and yes,
I can find my own way out Naga hide.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
And talking about snake skin like I can't tell if
we're actually talking about snake skin, which is a thing.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
It's a thing. It's like yeah yeah, Naga Hide is
like fake faux leather.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I don't even know what a brand.
Ye get hold on. It looks in a U G
A H Y D.
Speaker 4 (58:20):
Yes. Yes, that's the grift. So here we go. Here's
the exactly.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Because it looks yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
It is a brand. It is a brand, the pioneer
and premium brand and the coated fabrics industry dedicated to
world class surface pattern design and surface pattern designed. Okay,
I think GP, you got.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Us in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
Can you please give us just sub kind of dumb
drum riff for that one Naga Hide, just well done.
Three slope claps for you, GP.
Speaker 4 (58:58):
Scooch.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
I have to tell you something, guys. Okay, I you
know me. I'm a little gamer boy. Back in the day,
I had a PC that was worthy of gaming, and
I used to play things like EverQuest two on there,
and this game that was my favorite was called Guild Wars.
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It was another one of these massive multiplayer games. I
was into it, okay. I wasn't very concerned with things
like girls or life. I just wanted to play Guild
Wars and EverQuest. Okay, then look that's who I was,
all right. In Guild Wars there are creatures. They're like
lizard creatures, and they're called Naga and one of the
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things they drop that you can build things with is
Naga hide. Got there and I was just like, oh crap,
that is this what GP Scooch is talking about? Did
he play Guild Wars again?
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Oh my gosh. By the way, the Naga Hide brand
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Speaker 4 (02:51):
And we're back. I got a couple of neat messages
from you, Yes, you, And this one comes from a listener,
a friend of ours from out there and conspiracy realist
Land goes by the name of drop Bear Whisperer. Not
a drop bear themselves, but one who coaxes and whispers
the fabled tartar grades. Right, isn't that what drop bears are? No? No, no, no,
(03:14):
water bears. Water bears are tartar gards. Drop bears are
the scary boys from the jungle. They jump down on you.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
They're the carnivorous koala.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Right right, No, not to be confused with the sweet
little boys that, while you know, alien in appearance, I
think would be a good hang the water bear or
the tarte gray. It's the drop bear whisperer here, says
the drop aar whisper just listens to listener mail episode
a couple weeks behind. No telling which one that was,
but maybe there will be some telling from context clues.
(03:43):
That's me. Not sure how far you followed this story,
But there is a project out there called Raven Eye
from a company called river Side Research. Not to be
confused with the river Side that we used to do
our audio and video for the podcast here. We don't think,
we don't think, No, we don't different company, but who
(04:06):
knows what people are up to, what shenanigans are going
on behind the scenes. Interesting tech, says drop air whisper
wondering how much computing power has been put up in
order to serve and power these systems super similar to
some other more public operations using open AI, anthropic and
palunteer tech. Drop air Whisperer then also mentions another company
(04:30):
doing stuff in the AI munitions slash, you know, war
machine space called Blue Halo. And I just wanted to
talk a little about these two companies before moving on
to a little bit more of a news item, because
I guess it makes perfect sense, and maybe this is
stating in the obvious that there's gonna be you know,
everyone can't be palenteer, and it is a feeding frenzy
(04:53):
for this kind of AI implementation of you know, the
weapons and technologies of war. So I did a little
bit of digging into these two companies just to give
a sense of what kinds of companies other than them
might be out there and what they might be up to.
Riverside Research. Weirdly enough, maybe this is more common than
(05:15):
I realize. A nonprofit considered an independent research organization that
was founded way back in nineteen seventy eight, would have
to imagine they've done some pivoting since then. And they
provide research and development, engineering and analytics services to you
guessed at the US government national security mostly sector, as
(05:37):
well as some public sector customers. They work with technologies
involving radar, RF and sensor arrays and systems, as well
as communications and networking, signal processing, cybersecurity. The most interesting
and I think probably relevant part of their business for
what we're talking about today is autonomy and AI, space
(06:01):
systems and survivability, electronic warfare and ISR or intelligence surveillance
and reconnaissance. And then they always have a little caveat
where but we also need to emphasize that human element
to check the work of the AI. And a big
project they're working on right now is something called raven Eye,
which doesn't sound spooky at all, which is an agentic
(06:24):
AI framework that This is from their website Riverside Research
dot org. Triages multi int data surfaces, decision ready insights
and recommends follow on tasks for human approval to accelerate
the intelligence cycle. Okay, So I think the key here
is that they're claiming they can speed up and streamline
(06:48):
intelligence and reconnaissance and surveillance. They can offer more consistent,
you know, prioritization of these complex systems, as well as
they're claiming improved decision quality via these kind of mixed
AI methods. Of course, as we often talk about in
(07:10):
the Continuing discussion, specifically in this administration of AI aifying
all of these methods of war and intelligence gathering, it
all depends on the quality of the technology, and it
seems like the technology in general isn't quite there yet,
and yet there's this desire to roll this stuff out
as fast as possible. We know a lot about problems
(07:32):
involving false positives and negatives that remain hugely risky and
require human validation. So the idea here from this company
at least now, is to integrate these systems into systems
involving human you know, I guess checkers kind of on
the back end, But I don't know, man, it just
(07:55):
seems like I just don't know how much stock I
put into that, because we just know that the the
priority a lot of these companies and especially you know,
the government, it would seem these days, is to remove
the human element and kind of automate a lot of
this stuff. So I just wonder if this is sort
of like a pr line of no, no, no, no, we're
having the human element, it's very important to us, or
(08:17):
if that's just sort of like a way to sort
of placate the public while they figure out how to
do away with that element entirely. I think it's the latter.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
No, yeah, removing the human the human element, such as
the member of the Board of Trustees with doctor Neil mccaslan.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yes, right, precisely.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, that specifically of Riverside Research.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
No, yeah, no, no, one hundred percent. And also like
it just seems like the there's a lot of inconvenient
truths involved in using this kind of stuff and depending
on this kind of stuff, and I think that's why
we are seeing so much problematic treatment of scientists and
potentially even assassination of people that are kind of being
the voice of reason.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Oh no, let's go, let's go to the current board
of trustees, because they've got their fingers in a lot
of pies. As al Pacino would have said in Devil's Advocate,
these are some heavy hitters, fellow conspiracy realist. And as
you can tell, I share Nole's opinion here that the
(09:24):
drop Bear Whisperer, this.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Is not going to be on the up and up right.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It's it's what we're saying is using the human element
to better eliminate the human element. Essentially, right, people selling
people to people.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Well, we're training our replacements. That is a problems there too,
is that it's all about who's training the technology, because
you can't. I think there's this sense that maybe in
a perfect world, in some kind of utopian world, we
have this all knowing, all seeing, you know, complete egalitarian
AI that's going to just always make the right choice
(10:04):
given the circumstances and choose, you know, what's right for
everybody the most, you know, I guess charitable version of
that that we might see in sci fi. But then
there's always that backlash and that problem where it all
depends on who's programming the technology and what the best
choice might mean. And then is there a version where
(10:25):
this AI kind of starts to retrain itself and reprioritize
some of this stuff. And I know that we're not
there yet and that AI is such a loaded term.
We are not yet talking about some kind of singularity
event where this technology becomes self aware. But I can't
not think about little glimpses of that, where these these
systems are conjuring ideas out of whole cloth that we're
(10:48):
not programmed into them at all.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Breaking air gapped isolation, re refiguring the ASMOV level like
axioms that they have been given. This is interesting because
humanity is building a tool it doesn't understand, and it's saying, hey,
(11:10):
are you our panacea? Are you our next nuclear weapon?
And for now to your point, drop bear whisper. It
seems that they're getting in front of the legislation once again.
This is just the easiest use case mass surveillance.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah. I just thought it was worth mentioning because we're
just really, you know, kind of harping on Palenteer because
they're the biggest name out there and we didn't really
even know what the hell they were up to until
the last couple of years because of certain you know,
news items. But of course it stands to reason that
there's a ton of these other companies that are doing
things similar behind the scenes. Another one that dropped bear
Whisperer mentions is Blue Halo that holds a forty nine,
(11:52):
among many others, a forty nine point nine million dollar
contract with the Naval Information Warfare CUND need I say more,
five year award to deliver electronic warfare sensor systems and
related services. And all this stuff is of course wrapped
up in this predictive AI modeling.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Oh oh no, real quick, Can I point out for
you drop here this is something I think that is
something I think will be important for all of us
in the audience tonight with Riverside Research.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
Please do check out.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Raven Eye's approach to AI. We've got to say the
quiet part allowed, and I'm sure Blue Halo is doing
something similar. Raven I is bragging and wants you to
spend money so they can help you. Quote detect sentiment shifts,
protest planning, foreign influence at emergent threats end quote.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yep again, mccaslan was on the word of trustees of
that one and Blue Halo. Did you find this, Noel.
We talked about this a couple weeks ago on listener mail.
Blue Halo was acquired by Aero Vironment or rather AeroVironment
and Blue Halo became one thing. And before that, Blue
Halo merged with this thing called ATA Applied Technology Services.
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And guess who was the director of technology at ATA.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Who was the director of technology at ATCHEL.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
General Doctor Neil McCaslin.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Oh, No, you are so wonderfully hung up on this
guy for good as ros. His name keeps popping. Dude,
it's wild. I hope most people are A hundred percent No,
I don't. I just think it's fascinating and I'm so
glad that you've taken this this particular bone and run
with it, Matt, because it really is proving to just
it's like this canary in the coal mine. Speaking of
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canary in the coal mine, I just wanted to mention
a story that I saw on I always say guy's
name Moist Critical, Penguin, Zero, Charlie something. He's a YouTuber
who I really like. He's got long black hair, and
he's got some fun takes, and.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
He's pretty funny most of the time. I like the
way he talks.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I I love him so much. I just adore him,
and god dang, he's one of the good ones. He
gets like within five minutes of posting a video, it's
practically got a million views. And it's because he's just
a good guy and has like interesting takes and just
like seems like he puts his money where his mouth is.
He lives on a farm in Florida. He's just I
don't know. I just think he seems like a good fellow.
And he posted a video of which there were a
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few examples recently of tech CEOs or former tech folks
speaking at commencement ceremonies and just kind of glazing ai
and just being met with voracious booze from the audience.
Former Google CEO Eric Schmidt was met with students booze
at a university commenced an address in Arizona on Sunday.
(14:39):
When he raised the topic of artificial intelligence and its effects,
he let's see the topic struck a nerve of anxiety
within the student body when he traced technologies evolution through
the laptop, which he said had to democratize knowledge and
led to prosperity, to the smartphone, the internet, and social media.
He said, we thought that we were adding stones to
a cathedral of knowledge that human had been constructing for centuries,
(15:02):
but the world we built turned out to be more
complicated than we anticipated. The same tools that connect us
also isolate us. The same platforms that give everyone a
voice like you're using now degraded the public square. I know.
And it's basically saying all this stuff as a preface
to like give yourselves to AI. It's the most you know,
(15:23):
it's the most logical next step in the evolution of technology.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
And I know that all the students stood up and
said no.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, And it's not some sort of luddite perspective. It's
another example of people just being trepidacious about these money people,
just letting this genie out of the bottle before knowing
what it's capable of doing. And now it's getting integrate. Dude,
I know, and that's absurd. Nothing is inevitable, but I
guess when it comes to money making and the industrial
(15:53):
military industrial complex, maybe inevitable is the right way of
looking at it. But it doesn't have to be it
just as the you know, the particulars of the world
and the country specifically that we live in. He says
here this is there's a fear in your generation that
your future has already been written, that the machines are coming,
that the jobs are evaporating. Of course he's saying all
this like in woo wu terms, that the climate is breaking,
(16:14):
that politics are fractured, and that you were inheriting a
mess that you did not create. The question is not
whether AI will shape the world. It will. The question
is whether you will have shaped artificial intelligence. Jesus so
toned ouf Man Shoutrick Williams read the room. Yes, indeed,
I just mentioned this as a like canary in the
(16:36):
coal mine of it. All people are not happy. Young
people are not happy about this stuff. And it's just
getting integrated into all these real scary systems that could
cause some real dystopian scenarios to to you know, come
to pass.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
We just got to starve the beast man. If you're
not giving it any input, it can't eat and it
can't survive. So we just got to kill the dang
beasts by not ever using any of it. Ever. Well,
I've like, stop doing it right now. I know, I know, everybody,
just stop using it.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Hey, personal psa from stuff they don't want you to know.
Are you a fan of water? We hope so we
are too, and get this so our data centers shout
out to Tahoe, which we'll discuss in an upcoming Strange
News program.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
You just need to give all these guys Mars. Just say,
you guys can go build as many data centers on
Mars as you want. You can do anything you want
on Mars. You just can't do any of it here
on Earth anymore.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So leave.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Get the fuck out.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Would be nice, It would be nice. I'm gonna wrap
that one up, And honestly, that yielded a bit more
conversation than I was expecting. It's one of those things
where you feel like you can just drop a little
detail and move on. But man, no, this is such
a can of worm, so appreciate it. Drop air with ber.
I will just in the time that I have left,
mentioned another piece of correspondence that came through from our
pal Matt, who mentioned a story that I was not
(18:04):
personally aware of, but it does kind of ring a
bell now that I'm thinking about it, that maybe we've
discussed at the very least some aspect of this, the
idea of revaluating the gold that may or may not
be in Fort Knox, because obviously, you know, of late
there have been plenty of conspiracy discussions around. Is there
even any goal? Is it going to be one of
those Heraldo opening the vault and there's just like a
(18:25):
candy wrapper in there, you know, like a iowe you
written in crayon. But this I did not know this.
The gold that may or may not be in Fort
Knox is valuated at like nineteen seventies prices, yes, and
it would require a audit, which is I don't understand
why that's such a big ask, And I no wonder
(18:47):
people are wondering if it's bs or not. You'd think
audits like that would happen all the time. There's all
this talk about missing gold bricks or whatever. No one
talks about heisting Fort Knox anymore. That was like a
Bond movie, I believe, plot point like, but again that
was back in the seventies as well. Yeah, no one's
talking about this stuff. And so Trump, I believe, has,
(19:10):
among others, has A called for this audit, and b
called for this potential revaluing of the gold to modern
prices which are booming. So I just don't understand why
that wouldn't have already be done. But I guess I
do understand because it could. If it is, we're obviously
not on a gold standard anymore. So what what economic
(19:31):
factors would this throw into disarray? Oh? It kind of doesn't.
It create some sort of standardization for the value of
precious metals. But it it's so outdated, and we know
the price of gold is through to freaking roof. How
does that? How is that relevant?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
So here's here's my pitch for you, Baron, Eaton. This
seems to be in to answer your question there, and
this seems to be to my mind, an attempt to
repair the reputation economic of the United States. Uh, because
primarily the well Uncle Sam's had a lot of fumbles.
(20:09):
So if we can revaluate whatever is or is not
in the Schrodinger's Fort of Knox, then we can all
of a sudden have new standing in the economic order
of the globe overall, which allows institutions, government and private
(20:30):
to make increasingly crazy draft Kings level bets.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
But why hasn't that already happened? I just don't understand.
It seems really suspicious.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
It has in the past, which kind of informed that
that Excellent, I messed the point you're talking about, Yeah for.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Sure, No, No, actually, absolutely, Ben, And I'm sorry. I messed up.
I called him Matt, but that's not I mean, there's
a lot of mats in the world. I don't think
that constitutes is a doc same Baron Eaton is a nickname.
I didn't even read dream Mom, and I'm not going
read the whole thing, but just a couple of bits
because there's some interesting questions and thoughts here. It is
the most least It is the most least patriotic all
of us, all the man who has two feet in
(21:08):
different lands and has no soul to evaluate Baron Eaton.
As always, I released this missive for discussion on all platforms.
If your choosing what a well spoken into a class
speaking of gold, I would be curious of what you
all think of America's mad scrambled to quote cook the
books and start the revaluation process of the Golden Fort
Knox as well as the Federal Land to get the
asset classes balanced. After all this nonsense about us having
(21:31):
quote too much debt, I listened to an interesting talk
take rather on the slow valuation of the Golden Fort Knox,
if it is even there anymore, of course, and the
Act of Congress it would take to conduct such a thing.
Since the prices are locked in at nineteen seventies level
gold pricing. It makes me wonder what this will do
to the rest of the metal markets once this happens.
My question as well, Baron Eaton, and then the selling
(21:53):
off of a small chunk of federal land to private
equity would allow the entire federal land to be reevaluated
at the newest sale to spike the books. I find
it interesting to see all the creative bookkeeping going on
to try and do what they can do to make
it all work instead of just biting the bullet and
trying to you know, balance the budget. There you go,
(22:14):
and then doing a little bit of digging, I found
a couple of takes from economists as to what this
would do what reevaluing would and wouldn't do. It could
change reported assets on a government financial statements or on
government financial statements, and could create a one time on
paper gain, but it would not by itself this is
(22:35):
from Forbes, create spendable cash or automatically cancel public debt.
So it does seem like more of a flex than
a fix. And of course we do have tons of
online chatter involving conspiracy claims about gold being missing questions
about the purity of the gold speculative plans i e.
Backing new currency or some sort of sovereign wealth or
(22:55):
bitcoin reserve, or transferring into that. However, most mainstream news
and treasury officials do approach those particular claims with skepticism,
because of course they would. I don't know, That's all
I got for that, guys, Matt, you got any thoughts
about the gold of it all?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I was just looking at the A four hundred ounce
gold bar in nineteen seventy five was worth sixty four
thousand dollars. Do you know how much it's worth today.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It's got to be close to a million bucks, right.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
One point eight million dollars.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, it's crazy, just.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
That I'm trying to imagine what that would do. And
I don't know enough about money markets and all that stuff,
but if you did what we're talking about here, it
does feel like it would have a pretty massive effect
of some sort.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
Yeah, I guess I just don't understand why it's held
to a different standard, Like why does it have to
be reevaluated like revalued? Like if there if gold is
a commodity and there is a market that dictates the
price of that commodity. Why does it have to be
reevaluated in order it to now be worth that new amount.
It's confusing to me.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
I just think exists.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But that's what I'm getting to like, why is there?
I mean, it makes sense to be more skeptical as
to how much is in there because it's such a
black box. All right, Well, I think that's all I've
got time for today. Thank you so much to Baron,
Eaton and drop aar whisper to take a quick break
here worth more sponsor, and then we'll come back more
messages from you.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And we've returned. Guys. Recently, we've been talking about poulter geists.
We've been talking about potential possessions and spirits and that
other realm that is just out of touch for most
of us. And we got a message here from Hidalgo
to tell us about another potential Poultergeist, haunting, possessing that's
(24:52):
out there in the world. And I believe it is
something we have touched on before on the show, at
least briefly. So we'll hear from Hidalgo and then jump
in for just a moment, travel to Ohio and then
back here to the good old state of Georgia. So
let's go. Here's Adalgo.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Good morning, gentlemen, they call me Hidalgo. I just finished
listening to your latest episode regarding the possession of the
home in Indiana. You may want to follow up with
an additional story that you can probably find information on
the Skeptical Inquirer about the Columbus polt. You guys, this
is a case that happened in nineteen eighty four. There
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were several pictures and quite a bit of coverage. The
young lady, fourteen years old, Tino Rausch, was later convicted
of murder as an adult. I have very memories of
this case. I was right about twelve years old when
this happened, and I also remember this as the day
that I had breakfast with the amazing Randy Loyally Recory
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names that you had brought up recently. Also, William Roll
was involved for the family, if I recall correctly. So
there is a little story for you in the for
the future. And it's a great day. Thank you very much.
And you can use us as a radio thing or
her podcasting. Oh my god, I said, radio wings so free.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Nice, very good.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
It is still kind of radio.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
It's just crazy the way, like, what is that bed
of mind hot thing? Like I was literally just texting
with a friend yesterday who asked me about the Amazing
Randy and I hadn't thought about that man in forever,
and then I remember that we all have a prince
of the Amazing Randy as a Simpson that someone gave
us the way we interviewed, and I was totally forgetting
and spacing as to who that was.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Was I in a cult?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
That's right? Yep?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, pretty awesome stuff still hanging out over here too.
That guy was a fascinating individual. And you can watch
a whole documentary about his life. The name of it
and escapes me right now.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
But just that's right. We did watch it, folks, I
promise we watched it.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, you search for the Amazing Randy documentary you find
it again. Fascinating character, awesome human being at least for
his pursuits in work, like that's some incredible stuff, trying
to prove to everyone that unfortunately, at least you know,
according to the Amazing Randy and a lot of the
things that he did, psychic powers, esp. And all the
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fun things that we love to think about on this
show probably don't exist, or at least he was unable
to get anyone to prove them for a million dollars.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
He was also will point out a man of great delight, Hildalgo.
He took great delight in pursuing what he saw as
his mission there. It's phenomenal that you have an association
with Randy, whom we I believe. None of us got
a chance to meet the amazing Randy in person, but
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we check in with our wija boards and if he
gets back to us, you'll be the first to know.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Folks.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
That's right. Jumping to other things that you talked about
their Hidalgo, the Columbus poulter Geist, and Tina Rausch. You
can go to a couple different places. We prefer Columbus
Monthly because you don't have to pay anything to read
their articles from twenty fifteen, which is really nice of them.
You also don't have to read their articles from twenty
twenty four. Again, good on you, Columbus Dispatch, thanks so much.
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You can find an article titled classic Columbus ghost Stories
The Columbus Poltergeist. This is a pretty short little write up,
but we can give you some of the main points here,
and I'm gonna read directly from this from September twenty ninth,
twenty fifteen, again Columbus Monthly. In nineteen eighty four, a
flying telephone and other disturbances at the home of John
and Joan Rausch captured the curiosity of the entire country.
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The Rausch's daughter, Tina, then fourteen, seemed to possess telekinetic
powers that caused objects to move of their own accord,
sometimes violently. Her parents had a loss for what to do,
called the Columbus Dispatch reporter Mike Harden, whom they knew
because he'd written about them before. Harden visited the Rausches
with photographer Fred Shannon and began to write about Tina
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and the bizarre happenings around her. So this is a
This is a reporter, a journalist and a photographer hanging
out at the Rausch's house because there's been all kinds
of tales about Tina using telekinesis on all the household things.
So this is kind of cool, right, cool situation to
be in. Here we go, the glass of a framed
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picture appeared to shatter in her hands. This is while
they're there checking her out, A lamp flew off a
table next to her, and most famously, a telephone appeared
to fling itself across her lap in a photo caught
by Shannon. If you read a little bit about this
famous photograph that you can find right now, it's a
picture of Tina sitting in a chair and a phone
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that's on. You know, remember when phones had chords?
Speaker 4 (29:56):
Guys, Yes, I have I.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Have an account of this Time Life's Mystery of the Unknown.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
Oh oh, amazing.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
Oh, and just really quickly, Matt, I was watching a
movie with my kid the other day and the power
was out and someone made a phone call and my
kid was like, how can they do that when the
power's out? And it just made me feel old and
it was a fun little conversation. And I had then
thought about how amazing it is that you can make
phone calls without power.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
And without dismissing Time Life Mysteries of the Unknown. Matt,
can you tell us a little bit more about this
photograph and this incident?
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Oh yeah, so you can find the photo of that
if you look up the story I just said, classic
Columbus ghost stories Columbus Poultery Ice. You can see this picture.
It is a corded telephone that many of us will recognize,
but right next to a different corded phone that is
on the ringer and sitting next to her. It's very strange.
There were a lot of phones in this picture, a
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lot of a lot of those those old telephone tables.
You know, they're all sweet swirly, yeah, swirly and squiggly. Anyway,
that photograph made a big splash when it came out.
But here you go. This is continuing from Columbus Monthly.
You might predict how this story goes. A horde of
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ghost hunter types, skeptics, clergy and onlookers descended on the
Roush home. Eventually they were turned away, and the Columbus
poltergeist faded into an irreconcilable cloud of belief and skepticism.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Oh beautiful writing.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yes, but here's the sad ending, which is another thing
that was mentioned by Hidalgo. The story has a sad ending,
very much real. That fourteen year old girl grew up
to be Tina Boyer also known as Christina Boyer, who
lived a difficult adolescence and adulthood until she was convicted
in nineteen ninety four. For her part in the beating
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death of her toddler daughter Amber. Yeah, this is and
I'm not going to go too much into this. We
found an article from the pH Museum. You can find
it P eight museum dot com the Verdict the Christina
Boyer Case. It discusses how on April fourteenth, nineteen ninety two,
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a then twenty two year old known as Christina Boyer.
This is Tina, this is Tina Boyer, drove off to
work in Carroll County, Georgia, just west of Atlanta, Georgia,
and gosh, their three year old daughter was I'm not
going to read the whole thing. The daughter was killed
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and also her boyfriend there and she ended up getting
life in prison, and the boyfriend also got a severe sentence.
Really really, I don't even want to talk about it,
but it's a horrible story. I guess the connection there,
you could we could have a longer and more in
depth discussion about any potential connection there to whatever happened,
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you know, when she's fourteen years old and and there
are reporters descending upon her house, you know, and all
kinds of different folks with I would say, a motive
to gain something from Tina right and from the entire family.
And what does that do to you? What happens with that?
What does that do to the rest of your life?
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Is that why you go on to change your name?
Are there other circumstances? They're so very little that we
actually know. It's a very sad story though. Anyway, learn
about all of that you want to. There's another Columbus
Dispatch article you can read from November fourteenth, twenty twenty four.
Did Columbus girl have telekinetic ability in nineteen eighty four?
How did her life turn out? And you can get
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some more details there. Okay, well, Hidalgo, thank you for
putting us on all of that and bringing up the
amazing Randy again. That is just an awesome thing for
all of us to remember and for all of us
to check out one last quick message here and then
we'll get out of here for this segment. More Broccoli
called in. You guys, do you remember a time when
more Broccoli would call in three times a day?
Speaker 3 (34:01):
I do, Hello, it's great to hear from you.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, we got a quick one from her because she
wants to put us on something, maybe sending for us
to check out track down, get our thoughts on it,
So let's go jump to more broccoli.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
Hey, guys, it's more broccoly Calling from Sacramento, California. I
was just recently in the Tampa area in Florida for
a little while working, one of the guys rented the
new Bob Lazarre movie S four and it was so good.
I know you guys are familiar with the story. It's
(34:39):
very well done, and my dad has since watched like
a two hour long interview with Bob Lasar and he
says that it's very accurate and that they did a
really good job remaking all the different types of alien
tech that he says that he saw. And you know,
I think that there's a lot more to what the
govern knows and what they are choosing to not tell us.
(35:04):
There is something to be said for Trump pushing for
more disclosure with the common public than other presidents in
the past, but I think it's probably also to distract
from Epstein and all that, you know. So anyway, I
just wanted to tell you guys that and say hello
(35:25):
because it's been a minute. Hope you all are doing
well and I will talk to you later.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Boom boom boom, boom that website though, y'all that X
files freaking geo Citi's website.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
I mean either the one with all the disclosure stuff. Yes,
put out of the distraction of.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
It all shiny website and and thank you for reaching out,
Thank you for reaching out.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
More broccoli.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
Guys, have have we watched the Wizard documentary?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I have yet.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
I have not seen it yet.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
No, it is on my list of things to do
at night when the kids are asleep. Very Sleeping Dog
is definitely on their Sleeping Dog is a documentary documentary
that came out this year, twenty twenty six. It's all
about our buddy, Jeremy Corbell. It's all about how he
has emerged as this like person that everybody goes to
(36:26):
when we're talking about a whistleblower. They reach out to Jeremy. Now.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, and there's a lot of more broccoli. There's a
lot of Bob Lazar lore in that one.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Oh, Jeremy's done an entire huge documentary with Bob and
spent a lot of time, you know, in person with Bob.
You can check that stuff out. Very interesting. As for
S four, the Bob Lazar story, this is it looks
nuts because guys, these folks they got a video game
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graphics developer like world creator to partner with them, and
they went through and created an entire world essentially, that
is the S four facility that Bob Blazar allegedly worked at.
This thing that's in the Papoose Mountain range, like underneath
the mountain, inside the mountain by Groom Lake over there
by area fifty one. They created the Sport model, which
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is something that Bob Blazar has pretty consistently spoken of,
a specific UFO UAP that he allegedly worked on, like
saw inside of all kinds of other stuff, and he
was working on proprietary technology according to his story, having
to do with the propulsion systems of these craft that
(37:40):
were you know, there were numerous versions of them. There's
there's so much to go into when it comes to
the Bob Blazar story. Check out our episode for sure.
We did a full Bob Blazar episode. Correct at some point.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
Give me a second, fellas. It feels like, oh gosh,
I hope we're not in a Tarot card moment where
we realize we haven't, but we've definitely spoken about Lazarre. Yeah,
strange story of Bob Lazar. Yes, you can check that
out more Broccoli from August of twenty twenty two. It's
(38:16):
it's a pretty big it's pretty banger. I'd say it's
pretty yes, actually.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Well it's good. But we made it without Bob's input, right,
We used sources that exist out there and you know,
try to do some evaluation of Bob and his story.
But again, somebody like Jeremy has spent physical time with
him and done that kind of stuff. Then the people
over at Project Gravitur, which is the name of the
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I guess LLC that Luigi Ventatelli and Christopher Matteo, who
these are two guys who they co directed as four
and they are also working together on this thing called
Project Gravitor, And you can go to a website Project
Gravitor check it out. You can also go to the
website we Are Not Alone dot com and check out
(39:03):
more just on this collaboration and what they're trying to
do eventually. According to a behind the scenes video that
you can find says behind the scenes of Project Gravitor
from Luigi Vndatelli, and they're talking about using Unreal Engine
five to create basically a virtual walkthrough of the S
(39:23):
four facility, which guys, to me, sounds amazing. I want
to do that. I want to go to there, all right, Well, again,
there's so much to check out there. I did, guys,
I recently just randomly reached out to Jeremy because of
this S four thing, and if we're interested, he definitely
would be down to come back on. I would be
(39:45):
done to have him out.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I love hanging out with you, Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
He's got He had released some pretty cool new stuff online,
this thing called Project Rubik's Cube that I had never
heard of before, but allegedly there's maybe some people that
know about this UAP program again called Rubik's Cube. And
check out Jeremy Corbel's Instagram and a couple other places.
You can see him talking with a potential whistleblower about that.
(40:13):
We should I want to I want to know more,
so we should do that, all right, signing off for now,
Thanks more broccoli, Thanks Adalgo. We'll be right back with
more messages from.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
You, and we have returned. Fellow conspiracy realist. We've got
one one interesting, perhaps fun one for us, and then
we've got one that is gonna hopefully irritate you at
(40:44):
least as much as it irritates me. And then we're
going to end with some very serious feedback that we
need to stay with you.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
So here we go.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
First, up, we've got hi, it's your favorite hotel. Yay,
hotel year, I like hotel yea, what do we think? Yeah,
it sounds fancy, for sure, sounds I say yay. All right,
say nay, we've got.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Your favorite hotel.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yay.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Agent astronaut chick. And you say, I was listening to
your May fourth Strange News segment and thought you guys
might find it interesting to hear my experience with a
US president staying at one of our hotels. I'm getting
it too fancy. No, we'll say the h hotels, So
you say ancient astronaut chick. When my husband and I
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lived in downtown Denver, my husband worked at the president's
hotel of choice. Not only that, our apartment was across
the alley and was taller than the hotel, so we
could see the hotel from our apartment window.
Speaker 4 (41:46):
Context for later.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
So on the day of the check in, the Secret
Service would set up a TSA style screening for anyone
going into the hotel. Around the building, there were squads
of armed men on the corners only let people through
that lived in the buildings or were staying at the
hotel on the block. Anyone else had to go another route,
and large U haul style box trucks were also filled
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with weapons and I guess just standing around. In fact,
most of the vehicles, says ancient astronaut Chick, were part
of the.
Speaker 4 (42:22):
Secret service detail.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Like all the vehicles around the street were working for Potus,
which means you, if you're American, were paying for it.
They were very, very armed. From our apartment we could
see several snipers stationed on top of the hotel as well.
The president was Joe Biden at the time and would
not use the main entrance.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
No one would know.
Speaker 3 (42:45):
Wait, let me make this sound more biblical, Tennessee, keep
all this in and no one would know the time
of his arrival or his departure and biblical voice. Another
funny thing is that his hotel room had to be
prepped with foam pads guys on every sharp corner of
the furniture anti slipmats. It is apparently his.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Writer helmets were issued to all those.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
His writer included Vidilla ice cream because that was his favorite,
which seems without getting political. That seems so Joe Biden. Anyway,
you continue, AA chick, you say, I cannot speak for
a presidential event, but for a presidential stay, the hotel
is made aware well in advance. Security is not set
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up until the day of his arrival, which we'll get
back to there. It is definitely prepared before the president arrives.
It's a huge hassle. It's a headache for hotels, and
every other guest with a bad luck to stay there
has to submit their luggage to screenings. If you have
no business in the hotel, you are not allowed to stay.
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The secret serve actually kicked me out when I was
there on my husband's shift because I was hoping to
beat the president. Anyway, you say, this is my experience
with the US President staying one of our hotels, and
it is also below our apartment. I can't say it's
the same procedure for every place, but we went through
this process twice with the first lady and then again
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with the President himself. I've been listening to you all
show since twenty eighteen. Keep up the good work. Please
feel free to use my nickname and read this email
on the air. Ancient astronaut chick, we got to you,
and this is I don't want to exclude anybody ever
in conversation, but this is something of particular interest to
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people who have to live in Atlanta. In the past. Guys,
we have collectively experienced horrific traffic. That's what we associate
presidential visits with. Any time, like it doesn't matter who
you vote for if you live in Atlanta, anytime you
hear the president of the United States is coming, you
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assume it's going to take four hours to get anywhere
at all, and I just remain indoors.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Yeah, yeah, you know what.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Yeah No, they should do it as like a pandemic
lockdown warning because otherwise, well you will remain indoors because
you're probably not going to be able to get out
of your car again for hours. It also reminds me
of twenty fifteen when Barack Obama visited a political establishment
of notes here a place called Manuals. They went into
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serious lockdown. They changed the light bulbs.
Speaker 4 (45:41):
Political establishment of note and home of a banger. What
is it, Rubin now, Patty you like the Patty Miil.
I like the Patty milt.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Oh you know what, I like, what do you like
that the pinball machines they do have.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
And they're still just a quarter I think.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Oh, Tennessee, you went off mute, he came back on.
Speaker 4 (46:02):
So please bro, tell us, tell us shout out to
the chicken Parmesan, very.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Good Manual's Folks is a place where the deal makers
of certain political parties in Atlanta hang out, and when
Barack Obama, then president, visited, it was this hole to do.
This is also, by the way, guys, speaking of local lore.
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The same night he visited, someone got shot again out
back of the murder Kroger. And we don't know exactly
what the president at the time was eating, but just
so you know, ancient astronaut Chick, we are familiar with
the tremendous inconvenience of hosting a president, and fellow conspiracy realist,
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we would love to hear your stories about those run ends.
Do you associate the most dangerous position in the known
world with awesome good to hang out or do you
associate it with Oh my god, my day's ruined. This
guy just blew up the airport. Sorry, poor choice of words.
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This guy ruined the airport for a day.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
This guy took a really big poop in the airport.
This guy just housed the airport.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, it's so funny because nowadays where I live, you guys,
I associate Saturdays with horrific traffic here because every day
I head towards the city. Now it feels like the
president is here. Don't understand it, that is true. And
coming out your way from the city is so bad.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, Oh jeez, look at us. We're gonna be in
the same retirement home complaining about traffic.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
I have a question for ancient astronaut chic. Was it
the Monaco? Was it the Monaco in downtown Denver off
Champa Street.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
We don't want to put you on blasts, so write
us back, but we do have to keep it moving.
In our weekly Listener mail segment, we have one more
thing that should be front of mine to you, wherever
you live. Hear that well, hear it in italics here
at underlined, here it highlighted, wherever you live. This comes
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to us courtesy.
Speaker 4 (48:30):
Of the road Runners.
Speaker 3 (48:31):
Call love the name you say. Hey, Ben Matt Nolan, Tennessee,
longtime listener, first time emailer. I've been listening with interest
on your conversations about shot stopper and ring doorbell cameras
and their use by police. I came across this article
about Flock surveillance cameras this morning and a lawsuit in Norfolk,
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Virginia against their use.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
I had not heard of.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Flock before, but they claim their cameras are in use
in five thousand US communities. I'm also suspicious of their
claims that quote, our company will have eliminated crime in
this country in ten years end. Quote what do you think.
I'd love to hear your take on this company and
the question of constitutionality of mass media security cameras and
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general take care. The road runners call dude, Thank you,
road runners, call you take care. This is everywhere. Atlanta,
Georgia is actually the most surveiled city in all of
the United States right now.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
It is true.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
And I advanced to the airport because of the way
law enforcement is able to access ring cameras and flock cameras.
And I'll say this, because of the way moos that
have been rolling out mass nap always.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
Surveyed every corner.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
I think they're inventing a religion. I hope they're becoming
sentient because I think we all saw the the waimos
circling that one called us act I.
Speaker 4 (50:05):
Thinks away from sentience if they're doing that, Dylan sent
us to the group thread in Atlanta. People have been
spotting these weymo is just glitching out and just do
that's the same one I saw, Dylan. Did you send that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (50:21):
Didn't you, Dylan, Yeah, that's secreticity.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
I just responded dystopian.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
I think we're I think we're onto something. But before
you know, there's a wide chasm between benevolent a g
I and uh you know, dystopian. As you said, no
government surveillance. If you are interested in learning more about
the problems with flock cameras, please check out de flock Atlanta. Uh,
(50:50):
that's that's an excellent website. To visit their dot org
so you know they're legit.
Speaker 4 (50:55):
Uh huh uh.
Speaker 3 (50:57):
You can also read about the student protests that are
happening on the West Coast, especially the students who have
a bit of technical acumen. If you go to the
Tribune on just May sixteenth, two days ago, as we
record on May eighteenth, you can see that a group
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of col Poly students and local community members have marched
through campus protesting the flock cameras that are everywhere, Like,
how often, guys, if you got your records pulled, how
often would you know? Or you Matt or you Tennessee
expect that you show up somewhere on a public facing camera.
Speaker 4 (51:39):
I don't leave the house too much, to be honest,
here in Atlanta anyway, I mainly go places when I travel,
so I'm not so worried about being surveilled here in Atlanta.
But I don't know, maybe once a month roughly, But
that's just thinking about my traveling my like, you know,
going out of doors, habits time a way mow drives
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beside you.
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Do you need to go to a grocery store?
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Oh, you're right, I do that.
Speaker 2 (52:06):
Do you go get Target too? Oh? No, yeah, dude,
it's at every time you leave the house.
Speaker 4 (52:14):
At my house, I've.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Got cameras all over my house on purpose, guys, And
they run twenty four to seven. They record twenty four
to seven. So every time I leave the house or
go in the house or exit my house, there is
a record of me doing that. And I'm doing that
on purpose. They're not connected to anything or to anybody
else or any system, but there will be a record
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if something happens, y'all can jump into the system and
see it.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
Tell me all the timeline.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Yeah, but I don't want you know, but that kind
of thing, like this choice that we're all or rather
the local governments in every town across this country are
making four of the citizens who live in those places
are now you can you can look up local news
flock camera, and then your city flock camera, your state,
(53:06):
and you will see that there is controversy happening right now.
Right now, I'm looking at one about Cleveland, about the mayor,
mayor bib choose a surveillance over answers when it comes
to flock safety. And there everybody's doing it, choosing this
stuff because it's safe.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
Well they're also making some money off of it too.
What yeah, what, Oh my gosh, So the road runners
call One thing that I think you should check out
as well. Is an excellent article from earlier last month
on The Guardian. This is courtesy of George Cheaty Creepy Surveillance.
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Why some cities are shutting down flock cameras amid privacy concerns.
This is a huge deal. This is crazy that we
are beating the United Kingdom in mass surveillance. Also, I
was talking about this with our pals Jack and so
over on the Daily Zeitgeist. I've accepted it, but I'm
(54:05):
hacking it the way I hacked sponsored ads. You know, like,
if you want to hack your sponsored ads, talk around
your phone about very fancy things like your habit of
new fancy watches, or how we love to go to
the Monoco in Denver or Monaco of the country and
the monocles or monocles, how we love to wear monocles,
(54:25):
and the way you hack mass surveillance. At least, what
I was pitching on Daily Zeitgeist is you just drive
to places that make you look like a better person.
So I was saying, you know, I just drive to
the gym, I drive to the yoga place, I park
in the back, I visibly walk to you know, a
(54:46):
vegan co op. I visibly am seen. I am in
public going to a food pantry to volunteer. Build up
your fingerprint and your persona. If you cannot avoid it,
then you can play with it.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
What if they see you, let's say, on the gaming
floor at Baha.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
Mar They might not know it's they might not know
who it is.
Speaker 4 (55:14):
Come on, we'd be what.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Okay, you are wearing a wristband that is like trackable.
Speaker 4 (55:19):
Oh my gosh, everywhere.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah, we are being heavily tracked. The takeaway from here
Roadrunners Call is just to keep it brief. I think
Flock is an episode in the future and we can't
get it out soon enough.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
I think you mentioned flock before in twenty twenty two. Yes,
on a listener Mail episode we were talking you linked
to the Flock safety website. Yes, so like this is
something we've been talking about.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
Yeah, yeah, in our weekly listener Mail segment way back
in twenty twenty two, we were talking about this and
we're only talking about it because the concerns were already growing.
So the best advice here, or not even advice, the
best insight here the Roadrunners Call and all of us listening,
is that you are being actively surveilled to a level
(56:14):
you perhaps don't understand. And all the stuff that's coming
out now in twenty twenty six has been happening for years.
So if you were hearing this, you have a profile,
you have a fingerprint, you have a footprint. Will it
be used against you? That's a story for another evening.
And you know, guys, yeah, it's got to be an episode.
(56:38):
We always endeavor to end this program, especially on a
good note, but we have to end on something really
serious tonight.
Speaker 4 (56:49):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Okay, just as we wrap up.
Speaker 4 (56:51):
Okay, this is very serious and.
Speaker 3 (56:53):
We very much value corrections and clarifications. This show cannot
happen without you.
Speaker 4 (57:00):
So we received.
Speaker 3 (57:02):
A sobering message from a good friend of the show,
fellow conspiracy realist GP Scooch. Gentle persons, Scooch here again,
I was surprised during your discussion of the Naga that
you did not mention their near extinction. Certainly you recall
how post World War II styles saw the Naga hunted
(57:23):
for their hides, which were then dyed and used as
a cheap alternative to leather. Naga hide could be found
in many colors and is still found in diners, bars
and restaurants across the world. Fortunately, plastic fabrics have replaced
the Naga hide in new construction and they are slowly repopulating.
(57:45):
If this helps, feel free to use it, and yes,
I can find my own way out Naga hide.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
And talking about snake skin like I can't tell if
we're actually talking about snake skin, which is a thing.
Speaker 4 (58:04):
It's a thing. It's like yeah yeah, Naga Hide is
like fake faux leather.
Speaker 2 (58:09):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I don't even know what a brand.
Ye get hold on. It looks in a U G
A H Y D.
Speaker 4 (58:20):
Yes. Yes, that's the grift. So here we go. Here's
the exactly.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
Because it looks yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
It is a brand. It is a brand, the pioneer
and premium brand and the coated fabrics industry dedicated to
world class surface pattern design and surface pattern designed. Okay,
I think GP, you got.
Speaker 2 (58:43):
Us in Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (58:45):
Can you please give us just sub kind of dumb
drum riff for that one Naga Hide, just well done.
Three slope claps for you, GP.
Speaker 4 (58:58):
Scooch.
Speaker 2 (58:59):
I have to tell you something, guys. Okay, I you
know me. I'm a little gamer boy. Back in the day,
I had a PC that was worthy of gaming, and
I used to play things like EverQuest two on there,
and this game that was my favorite was called Guild Wars.
(59:20):
It was another one of these massive multiplayer games. I
was into it, okay. I wasn't very concerned with things
like girls or life. I just wanted to play Guild
Wars and EverQuest. Okay, then look that's who I was,
all right. In Guild Wars there are creatures. They're like
lizard creatures, and they're called Naga and one of the
(59:41):
things they drop that you can build things with is
Naga hide. Got there and I was just like, oh crap,
that is this what GP Scooch is talking about? Did
he play Guild Wars again?
Speaker 3 (59:55):
I hope we all really appreciated this amazing writing as
as much as I did. Hashtag no joke left behind,
and we hope that you have enjoyed hearing from your
fellow conspiracy realist. So once again, thanks to Baron Eaton,
thanks to Drop Bear Whisper. They called me Hidalgo more broccoli,
the Roadrunners call ancient astronaut chick, and of course you
(01:00:19):
son of a gun, GP Naga Hide Scooch.
Speaker 4 (01:00:22):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Someone just earned a new moniker and alias on the show.
If you would like a moniker alias, contact us. We
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You can find us on the lines, you can call
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Speaker 4 (01:00:39):
Oh my gosh. By the way, the Naga Hide brand
has like a little little mascot the little Monster may
out of fake leather. Oh my gosh, he's adorable.
Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:00:48):
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And please let us know what make of Naga Hyde
(01:01:18):
you would want to use from their catalog. I'm looking
at it right now. Turquoise is looking pretty choice. I'm sorry, dude,
all right, I hear you. Mayan is a close second
for me. Uh, this is a little darker. If you
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piece of correspondence we receive. Be well aware, yet I'm
afraid sometimes the void writes back. Since you have tuned
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human sacrifice. Dark Side of Human Sacrifice, well.
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