Sasquatch's Stunt Double provides an in-depth look at Pro Wrestling. Stoned Coyote inspires a conversation about the short-spined, viral raccoon Jimothy. The Truest Lock shares a story about helicopter repairs, the draft -- and whether the U.S. would be better with mandatory community service. Plus, the guys call Monsanto's Seed Snitch line. All this and more in this week's listener mail segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
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Speaker 2 (05:11):
It didn't even shout out the beautiful little letter that
he sent with it. It was just very kind to
the show and to all of us, especially you, Dylan,
very kind to everybody. We're not gonna read it because
it was sealed and we're gonna keep it sealed. Yeah,
what do you guys say? We take a break and
come right back with some voicemail. Let's do it, and
(05:36):
we've returned. Guys. Uh, we've been talking wrestling on the
show quite a bit. That was a big old episode
we did on wrestling. Yeah, yeah, okay, Fabe and just
wrestling in general. Well, we got a call from someone
going by Sasquatch Stunt Double, which I don't know, guys,
(05:56):
probably probably means they're large.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And in charge.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
In fact, well, this person has direct experience with wrestling,
So let's hear what they have to say.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Hey, guys, this is fast Quattion Stunt Double. I just
heard the episode about pro wrestling, and it's something I
actually had some experience with when I was working the
group Homes. I worked security as a side gig to
make extra money, and I got recruited to do pro
wrestling by the same guy that started saying Ultimate Warrior,
(06:31):
John Cina, Simoe and Joe the Minute, and a bunch
of other guys. His name was Rick Patt. I was
a kind of a big, weird looking dude with long dreadlocks,
and I had a unique look. And you guys were
talking about how Roy Ridge was a big problem with
the violence and stuff and personalized the pro wrestlers, and
I would say, it's more complicated than that. Unfortunately, a
(06:53):
lot of people that get into pro wrestling have similar
mental health issues as a lot of other celebrities. But
like the best I can relate to it is like comedians.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
They have a desire to.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Be up on stage, desire to be liked. A lot
of them have dark passed abuse things like that, and
there's heavy drug use in pro wrestling. I was one
of the unicorns. I've never been higher drunk in my life,
never did steroids or anything like that, and they kind
of put me on the outskirts with a lot of guys.
But painkillers is probably one of the biggest ones and
(07:27):
unprescribed psych meds is huge. I would watch guys crack
open tackle boxes loaded with pills for all kinds of
different stuff, and none of it obviously it was prescription,
or if it was prescription, it was from a kind
of underhanded doctor. But I'd see guys just so blitzed
out on painkillers and things like that that they can
(07:50):
barely function. And it does change the way your brain works,
the way you think. And then you couple that with steroids,
personal views on your own well being, your mental health,
things like that, and the stress of working three hundred
and sixty days a year, sometimes multiple shows per day,
constant travel. It's a lot and it can cause a
(08:13):
lot of negative mental feedback. I only did it for
a couple of years and I got hit by a car.
At the time I was doing it, I was unaware
of a lot of the darkness behind the scenes. I
got recruited to do it and thought it was fun
and got to travel, got to work with some pretty
big names. Never got famous or anything like that. They
(08:33):
were constantly trying to develop me, but I sucked at
cutting promos, so it was one thing that they were
really trying to work with me. But yeah, I was
like six foot eight, so I was, I guess, the
type of guys that people like Vince McMahon and stuff
kind of looked for. Even though it was fun, while
I was doing it, I got to travel with all
(08:54):
kinds of places around the world and through the US
met some cool people. I'm really glad that I didn't
stay in it, because if I would have seen some
of the darker side of the central trafficking and things
like that, I think I would have lost my mind
and went after somebody because I spent most of my
(09:17):
life working against that kind of stuff. So yeah, I
dodged a bullet on that one. Funny stories to take
with me, everything like that. But I found out about
the Vince McMahon thing about, you know, with the trafficking
and other things, probably a few years afterwards. But even
when I was doing the pro wrestling, there was a
(09:38):
lot of talk about how Van's really liked big guys
as well as girls, other promoters and things like that.
And there's a lot of shady stuff that I did
see behind the scenes with money and things like that.
Even some small independent menus onto like I even did
a couple of dark matches for the WWE and didn't
(10:01):
get too into depth, but did see some things, all right, guys,
if you got any questions or anything like that helped
Ultimate Warrior with his comeback to the ring, and that
was an interesting story. Wrestling Company out in Europe and
Wrestling Evolution and did walk away with a lot of
funny stories. So if you guys want any of those,
just let me know. I do think I have one
(10:22):
picture of me from back in that day, so if
you want one of those, I could probably send it
and yeah, cool, all right, talk to you later. Yes,
you can use this as unusual on the air if
you want.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Boom, Well, there we go. There's our message from a
real life wrestler. What do you guys think it tracks?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
But to hear it said with such specificity and you know,
eyewitness account, it definitely still kind of hits a little different,
especially considering I mean, I guess you know we would
have assumed and we talked about on the episode the
performance enhancing drugs, But I guess it also does make
sense in such a fast moving, fast paced, oftentimes on
(11:03):
the road rock star kind of lifestyle that you know,
illegal drugs, stimulants and painkillers and things like that would
also be in play.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, and the mental health stuff is also sasquatch SD
if I could be familiar with you. That's something that
I was unaware of. But as Noel said, it makes sense.
And Matt, I believe that you actually reached out.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Is this correct?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
We talked for quite a while, learned a lot of things,
heard some of those funny stories that we probably aren't
gonna repeat most of them here. I might recount one
because I had to do with the Ultimate Warrior and
you guys, like in your head, if somebody says Ultimate Warrior,
can you hear his voice?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I can see his makeup, but I don't remember what
his battle cry was. I imagine it was gravelly? Was
it gravelly?
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Yeah? Out?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I get Macho Man, Randy Savage and Ultimate Warrior kind
of mixed up in my head. I would say the
general vibe, and this is no offense to those guys.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
The vibe is.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Mildly coked up kind of that, you know, really excited,
really intense races.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
All of those guys in their interviews, like call Cogan
and those guys, they're sweating, They're like their necks are
popping veins, out of theirs, so they're all coked up. Man.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I thought that was a really interesting thing that Sasquatch
was talking about. The one thing he says or he self,
you know, prescribes that he wasn't good at we're making
those promos, which are those are the things we remember
more than anything, because that was like straight to the camera,
right up close a character, right showing off and telling
you why you need to watch the match, which is
(12:49):
really the big show, right. The match is the big show,
but that promo is the reason people got so hyped
about the individual characters.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's where they spread the lore and like, yes, verbalize
the beat. Then they're talking to the camera, but they're
also oftentimes talking to the camera as if it's their opponent.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Right, m m m hm, and to you then the viewer, right,
So it's almost like they're coming to fight you in
a way. There's a great episode of Amy Poehler's podcast
recently that featured John Cena, and he talked a lot
about how interactive a wrestling show is, how the audience
itself is the show or makes the show what it is,
(13:27):
because often as part of the improvisation that goes on
in the ring. You are playing off directly of what
the audience is reacting to or feeling. And he was
saying again, great interview. He was saying that one of
his favorite things is to kind of work the audience
via like a single move or a thing. They would
do that, the two wrestlers in the ring would kind
(13:48):
of decide in the moment and talk to themselves about
what they're gonna do, and then the reaction lets them
know what the next two or three things are. It's like,
holy crap, just so freaking cool. Sasquatch's stunt double did
send us that picture that he mentioned. Would we like
to see what he looks like?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I sure would.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Here we go. Here is the man.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Huh. He's very tall and he's rocking undertaker vibes. I
gotta say he's given undertaker here.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And I gotta say, Sasquatch SD, we owe you an email.
But I am loving the vest you're rocking.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
This is just that the vest combined with the dreads
and the chops. It's a true ensemble.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Oh yes, And this image that we are looking at
everybody with what appears to be a white long sleeve shirt,
a tie, a vest over top of thats pinstripes. He
has got quite a many dread on. He's got a
cool goatee going on and some cool I don't know
what you call that, guys. It's like a beard, but
it's like a very low trimmed beard. Chops chops okay, yes,
(14:58):
and ear earrings or maybe that's part of his hair.
I can't tell. Dude looks imposing. And this is from
a pilot of a reality wrestling TV show that I
guess never went anywhere called.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
The House of Pain.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I think the House of Hurt is what it was called,
not House of Pain. That's a different thing. One last
thing I wanted to share with Sasquatch's stunt double Dylan.
He is on a truck a lot of his life
working on with a truck and things, and he cooks
(15:33):
on his truck very often. And he sent us an
entire recipe and an image of a rude abaga dish
that he created. WHOA, yes, So it's kind of hard
to see in the picture. We'll have to make sure
we look at the recipe that he sent in via email,
But that is a giant plate of essentially roasted mashed
(15:57):
rude begas with lamb stew on top of.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It had me at lamps too. But I'll stay for that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Beautiful, incredible stuff. Okay, look, I hope this is okay
with you, Sasquatch, if you're listening, I'm gonna tell one
quick story about an interaction that he had with the
Ultimate Warrior. It has been stated and been written about
that the Ultimate Warrior, when in character and perhaps not
in character, is a bit intense. We've seen the promos.
(16:30):
You look him up if you don't know him the
character at least. There's a moment when Sasquatch is working with,
like pretty closely with Ultimate Warrior, and he has been
working around a bunch of other people. He finally has
an opportunity to attempt to go out on a date
on someone. He with someone he was interested in, and
(16:51):
this person as they're at dinner, like a very nice dinner,
they're having conversation and the person he is on a
date with expresses a bit of hesitation about potentially dating
a wrestler. Because the Crispin waw thing, a lot of
the you know, news about CTE potential aggressiveness. Wrestlers had
(17:12):
a pretty bad rap in the news at this time.
And she's expressing this to him, and he is attempting
just to say, you know, I'm not all like that,
as he said in the message, you know, I don't drink,
I don't do drugs. I'm I'm a clean guy. And
there are all these reasons like I'm not like that,
and I'm really interested in you. And as he is
explaining this, the Ultimate Warrior in character comes up behind
(17:35):
him and he just says, when the.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Ultimate Warrior says it's time to go, it's time.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
To go, and he has to basically as part of
his job, like you gotta go, I guess, And that
was and that was it.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
That was that. I'm looking this up. But the Ultimate
Warrior passed away under the somewhat suspicious circumstances, and there
are definitely some conspiracies surrounding that. And the guy's name,
his last name was Hellwig, which I think is I
don't think I've ever heard that name before in my life.
But I literally found a YouTube video of the final
(18:13):
forty eight hours of the Ultimate Warrior and talking about
some sort of fishy contradictions in the reporting surrounding his death.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oh so there are definitely things we need to look
up for sure. Anyway, There's there's so much more we
could say about sasquatching, his travels with wrestling and all
the good work he does in group homes and places
like that, and just the cool human that he is,
(18:43):
and there's there's lots to say. One of the last
things he wanted to point out to us is about
the talent pipeline that wrestling has kind of always had,
and he was mentioning Andre the Giant specifically in Roddy
Piper and some of these wrestlers. If you think back
to the eighties and even kind of before that, when
(19:04):
a wrestler would be seen on screen as an actor,
not just as the wrestler right or as a character
in that way, but as someone who is good at
acting and doing a great job at it, becoming this
other thing because they're so used to becoming a character
right through kfabe and through all of that stuff. Just
about how great of a match that kind of always
(19:24):
has been. There's lots of other things to say. This
hot Sauce, by the way, is kicking.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
My butt and it's still it's a slow burn.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's all for this segment against Shout Out Sasquatch's stunt double.
We hope you do awesome out there. And oh last thing,
Dylan on my notes here, he says he was going
through Walmart and he literally saw Rudabega's and got so
excited because of our rutabaga segments that you create. So
thank you, Dylan, be the rude bega you wish to
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see in the world. We'll be right back after word
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Speaker 3 (20:08):
And we're back. And this message comes to us from
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Stoned coyote, who says, who is Jimothy meets Seattle's latest
raccoon celebrity, thought you guys should get a kick out
of this. The Seattle sub has all kinds of stuff
on it, and then he links to a few fantastic pieces. Guys, Ben,
(20:34):
I know you in particular, we're fascinated by this tale. Matt.
I think you hadn't seen quite as much about it
as Ben and I at the time that we brought
it up to you. But Jimothy is a raccoon that
has been spotted in and around the Seattle area in
the Pacific Northwest, and he is a raccoon with a
(20:56):
some kind of congenital spinal condition that essentially has led
to him looking like the whole misshole mid section was
kind of removed, so his fore legs and back legs
are right next to one another. He looks like some
sort of thing you might see in the ben what's that?
What's that? What's that kind of fake compendium of like
(21:21):
mythical creatures cod Codex Seraphina, And it looks like the
kind of thing you might see in a book like that.
You know immediately it's easy when looking at a thing
like this, uh to question it a little bit. And
we're going to get into that the whole like is
this even real? Is this ai?
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
And I think that the memification of Jimithy that happened
so quickly, it seemed like just overnight, this guy was
all over my particular feed, like you know, fan art
being created, you know, people getting tattoos, all kinds of
stuff surrounding Jimothy the raccoon. And it all started when
(22:00):
a woman named Keana Hall was leaving a good will
in the Ballard area of Seattle around eight thirty on
a Monday night, and she saw what she thought was
a cat underneath the car, took out her phone, filmed it,
and just absolutely her jaw dropped as she saw this
very unusual looking creature creeping out from the shadows. There's
(22:25):
a great piece in the Seattle Times that sort of
lays out the timeline of Jimothy and the lore of
it all. Meet Jimothy, Seattle's Internet famous raccoon, and guys,
we did have a chance to chat about this a
little bit. And how oftentimes when we talk about cryptids,
the conversation tends towards what was the thing actually that
(22:47):
somebody maybe miss construed, right, or that a number of
people misconstrued, And you know, what is the nature of
spotting cryptids? And then the game of telephone that happens,
and in a time before the overnight internet memification of
something like jimithy, how that kind of game of telephone
(23:09):
can really distort things. And all of a sudden, maybe
a jaguar or like a wolf or some kind of
feral dog can all of a sudden become like this,
you know Camara or you know the Troupacabra or the
Jersey Devil or what have you. And so this whole
conversation around Jimothy, which by the way, was almost derailed. Guys,
(23:33):
somebody took to Instagram, or rather to Reddit and posted
that they were responsible for creating Jimothy the Raccoon using
an AI image generation platform called higgs Field. And I've
got to say, guys, after really enjoying Jimothy and being
(23:53):
super excited and sharing it with a lot of people
and then seeing this one headline people reporting one in
particular on technology Instagram account, which is usually pretty reputable,
they just breathlessly posted breaking viral raccoon is allegedly AI generated.
Reddit user just admitted he made it on unlimited higgs Field.
(24:14):
The headline to the Reddit post in off my chest,
which I guess as maybe you guys know this one
makes sense. I guess it's a forum where people can
confess to things. Yeah, exactly, I created Jimothy the Raccoon.
Everyone's cashing in on him except me zero dollars. This
user posted mayonnaise on cheese, which is really gross sounding. Sorry,
(24:39):
I just the way that that wrote me the wrong way,
and so, I you know, I saw this and immediately
was like, oh, of course that's true. Of course it's
not real. How stupid of me to believe that something
like this could be real, And so I immediately wrote
it off and even told a few people that I
had shared it with, almost to absolve myself in a
way that just guys sad stat story. Jimothy's not real,
(25:02):
it turns out, but no, he very much is. This
is clearly after reading the responses and digging in a
little deeper, this mayonnaise on cheese character should have been
a bit of a clue that he cited a specific
platform by the way, unlimited higgs Field. It was clearly
trying to capitalize on it and make some money for
(25:24):
an image creation platform that perhaps he had something to
do with. There were tags even on yeah on it,
like for like what do you call those partner programs?
Higgs Field partner and hashtager like a added higgs Field
dot ai you know what's funny? Yeah, technology even got
(25:47):
in on the action there, it would seem. And so
it says this user dropped a confession. He claims he
generated Jimothy's Higsfeld unlimited for zero dollars. Nobody noticed, real
or not, one thing is clear. This is what unlimited
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Speaker 4 (26:05):
I think I feel that uncommon though, especially on subreddits.
I mean, you can't easily identify people, so you have
to take them at their word unless they provide hard
evidence or corroborating links. But no, I know you'll find
this fascinating. Uh, there's been a growing thing with the
dead Internet theory and the proliferation of bots. There's been
(26:28):
a growing thing where people will go into uh subreddit
or a comment thread and then try to do what
is essentially native advertising. So do you think this Mayo
and Cheese character was trying to do something similar?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Could well be? Man, I just think it's it's even Yes,
that is fascinating that that is a thing, and the
whole dead Internet theory and the bots of it all,
and like identifying them as becoming harder and harder and comments.
But there are usually tells it was such an emotional
roller because I was so tickled by the existence of
this lovely little guy. There was even another video that
(27:05):
showed him having a baby. Don't know if that's real
or not, because once you have maybe part of it's real.
But then of course because of this footage, existing people
can then ingest that into AI tools and make new things. Right, So,
even though we've got the piece of footage that this
woman filmed in this parking lot by the Goodwill, then
it is easy for others and users out there to
(27:27):
ingest that and make new things out of it that
aren't real. So it just muddies the water even further.
But it really was a lesson to me again, trust
but verify, but mainly verify, because it wasn't even until
I was looking into this a little bit later after
I had decided that he wasn't real, that I realized
it absolutely was real and the footage is authentic, and
(27:49):
we do.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
All have the biological sex if Jimothy determined just yet
do we?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I don't believe we do. Jimothy was a nickname that
the person shooting the footage came up with she captured it,
Jimothy the raccoon with short spine syndrome. While it is
not known for sure if the condition has caused his appearance,
many have assumed as such and the description has stuck.
So it is a good example of, like you know,
(28:16):
something absolutely going viral. And this was an Instagram reel.
It attracted more and more likes, comments and reposts of
the BBC reporting, with more than eight million views as
of this article came out five days ago, so as
of last Friday. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man.
I'd love to just unpack really quickly more of this
(28:36):
idea of you know, you could go so far as
to call Jimothy a cryptid, kind of he's not, you know,
he's a species that exists. So I guess my question
then becomes like, what does a cryptid need to be?
Does it have to be a species that we have
not yet identified? Can it be a mutation of some kind?
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And what is the nature of these eyewitness account quote
unquo that can lead to some real distorted stories. And
where are we at now in the advent of AI
and memes in terms of identifying new cryptids.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
That's a great series of questions, NOL. We know, just
to walk back through those. For anybody who's checked out
our episode on cryptozoology or many specific episodes on certain
types of alleged cryptids, you'll know the definition is tricky
because it essentially means some kind of organism an animal
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that has yet to be officially cataloged and identified by,
let's be honest, primarily Western scientists. So it's like a UFO, right,
as soon as you identify it, it's no longer a UFO.
So as soon as you can look at something that
largely Western science we call it cryptid and you can say, oh,
(29:54):
that's a selacanth, that it's no longer encrypted. It's just
one of the uglier that we know of. No offense
to those guys. Thanks for tuning in Sei the Camps exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a really good point, Matt.
I know this is something that fascinates to you as well.
Since we've talked again off Mike about I think you
made the point about that that whole eye witness aspect
of the way cryptids and their mythology kind of come
into being, especially in a time before things could spread
so quickly on the Internet. I was wondering where you
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feel like Jimothy fits into that and how things have
changed in terms of maybe there's a reason and we
don't hear about new cryptids as much as maybe we
did in the past.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Oh yeah, for sure. A lot of it has to
do with light sources. I think in access to light
sources or how common they are, and the access to
camera equipment, right, and whatever shape or form that is,
those two things together. I'll tell you this way, guys.
(31:00):
I recently went to a reunion with my family out
at a state park in Ohio and it's in the
middle of nowhere. There's not a ton of light sources.
We did stay in cabins, but we're all kind of
in our own individual cabins, hanging out in the middle
of the woods. And when I say in the middle
of the woods, guys, I'm talking isolated. And there was
all kinds of wildlife out there because it's in a forest,
(31:23):
and at night, if you go outside, there's weird sounds.
There's weird rustling, you know, in bushes and in trees
that you can't identify if you don't have a flashlight
on it. And well, I was going to show you
guys this, but it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
But it is.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
This is a thing that happened in the waste the
big waste bin outside That is not jimithy, but it
is a raccoon that was stuck in the huge waste bin.
It was stuck in there, couldn't get out so we
managed to get it out, but we heard weird sounds
at night. And you know, if I can imagine if
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somebody opened that bin in the middle of the night
without light and just saw some eyes down there, right,
and then ran away, what the hell was in the thing?
I don't know, you can imagine the stories could grow
from there, even though there would be you know, not naysayers,
but people saying, hey, that was probably just a raccoon.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's right, I mean, And we talked about it recently,
I believe in a discussion of a particular cryptid that
was like possibly like an eel or something like that.
What was the deal with that? It was like a
water thank you very much. Yeah, but it was like
we barracuda maybe is where we landed or something like that.
(32:41):
But there were a sturgeon, thank you. They were all
these options though, right, and we heard all of these
different accounts that gave it all kinds of extra appendages.
And then when you really boil it down and look
at what a sturgeon looks like, you're like, oh, maybe
I could see that if you squinted, you know, but yeah,
with something like a raccoon, if you could have a
story like this developed from seeing just a normal raccoon
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in low light rummaging around. But when you have something
like this very clear footage of this, you know, this
guy with his whole midsection removed essentially, I guess that
changes the conversation. But it also kind of is the
reason I'm asking the questions about, Like, is does that
change the nature of like how we talk about these
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kinds of things, And is it like does it remove
some of the magic like it?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, I mean bigfoot sightings have plummeted as av technology
becomes more democratized.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
It's true. I think it's surprising to any of us,
and I think we're all a big fan of being
objective and looking at all the facts, but we also
like a little magic and mystery too, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Well, yeah, as we've said so many times, we surely
haven't discovered every species. We know that for sure, because
new species get discovered literally every day, sometimes to the
tune of hundreds or thousands, depending on where you're talking,
especially in the ocean, not so much on the land anymore.
But it does happen, and you can find stories like
check out the subreddit on science you'll see it all
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the time.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, Ben, I didn't mean to cut you off. I'm
fascinated about this bigfoot sightings plummeting because I mean, obviously
that is sort of the I don't know, cadillac of
cryptid sightings, is the sasquatch or the Bigfoot? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, And one point that we always want to make,
and I don't want to sound preachy or hyperbolic here,
but it's very important personally to me, folks, and I
think to all of us to always highlight in discussions
about cryptozoology that, yes, as Matt said, more and more
species are being discovered, this is actually the best time
(34:43):
in human history to find those previously unidentified creatures. But
it's the best time for very bad reasons. Human encroachment
upon the wild, the devastation of ecological systems that push
creatures into habitats they would not normally visit or explore.
(35:04):
So if you want to be a cryptozoologist, folks, first off,
it's very easy to get qualified because academia kind of
poo poos it as a science similar to uthology. But secondly,
this is the best time right now to be a cryptozoologist.
And if you are in the fields of zoology, or biology,
(35:28):
or you're exploring the ocean depths. You may not want
to hear the C word bandied about. And we get
that because it can be an issue of credibility to
some academics and researchers. But thank you for doing it,
because the more we learn about the world around us,
hopefully the better prepared we are to save it.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Here here, and just in case anyone's wondering, the State
Health Department of Washington says that Jimothy poses zero public
health risk. That's not to approach him, pat him, cuddle him,
or feed him. That is true of any of these
little furry fellas of any length or shape. And I
(36:09):
think the takeaway here will end with comes from Jamie
Slack writing on her blog Totally the Bomb, who's quoted
on this BBC piece. The Internet is a lot. It
is too much, constantly in every direction. And then Jimothy
shows up, and for one brief, weird moment, everyone is
on the same page, rooting for this little gremlin, giggling
(36:30):
in his name, feeling weirdly connected to strangers over absolutely nothing.
I think so too. All right, guys, let's take a
quick pause. Hear a word from our sponsors, and then
we back with our last piece of listener mail.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
We have returned friends and neighbors. We are going to
open this last part of our listener mail program with
a response to our Conscription episode, and thank you, by
the way, to everybody who took the time to write
in or contact us regarding that episode. The draft has
(37:08):
a resurgence of interest now as the war with Iran
escalates and the US makes more adventures abroad. So we're
going to hear from the truest Lock and then we're
going to do a little bit of an experiment on air.
So truest Lock, hope you like the nickname. Tell us
if you don't, you say the following. You say, it's
(37:31):
me again. I just finished the episode on conscription and
hear truest Lock is going to clarify some things and
give all of us tuning in todite some information we
need to know. Truest Lock, you continue when you say, well,
it's true, is Lock da that we do not currently
(37:52):
have a draft in the United States. I don't think
that a lot of people know about the ir R
or individual ready reserve, and this is interesting. We'll give
you truest Locke's explanation of it, and then we're gonna
let's discuss it a little bit together. Truest Lock, you say,
you see, a four year enlistment is not what it seems.
(38:14):
While I'm sure there are some exceptions, some people actually
enlist in the US military for a minimum of eight years.
You are on active duty for the length of your contract,
usually four years, but if you choose to end your
service there, you can still be recalled to active duty
for the remainder of that eight year period. It doesn't
(38:37):
happen often, says truest Luck, but I have witnessed it.
During my last combat tour, my company reached out to
a sister unit for some help with an unusually heavy
day of helicopter maintenance. This story is fascinating to me, guys,
and I'd love your take on it. Here we go,
you say, one of the guys who came over was
(38:58):
new to me, and I asked him where he was from.
It turned out that he had been recalled after being
back in civilian life for a couple of years. This
is where things get interesting. I was one of the
many soldiers I knew who is and was against a draft.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I told him.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
He was welcome to hang out and chill if he wanted,
but as someone who was not there by choice, I
just wasn't comfortable with him working on my helicopter. I
just didn't trust my life to someone who wasn't there
of their own free will. Let's pause there, guys.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
It's an excellent point. It's an excellent point.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
IRR is something I think a lot of people don't
know about until maybe after they sign up, or if
they've got military history in their family. And that point
about being chill and being respectful and saying, hey, if
you don't want to be here, I feel a little
weird trusting my life and my bird to you. I've
(39:56):
got to say, guys, I feel like that's a very
understandable thing. And also shout out to helicopter pilots, you
all are just born different.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
No, straight out, I mean, I think I think we
said the same thing in the conversation where it's like
conscientious objectors and just the idea of okay, well, if
you were forced to do it, especially if you were
at a more advanced age, you probably wouldn't be qualified,
not to mention, mentally prepared, and I mean for lack
of a better expression, going in with a good attitude.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Well, two things I'm remembering here, guys. I remember remembering
our episode Let's learn simple sabotage. Remember we talked about
that and how people might be urged to let's say,
sabotage a helicopter or you know, machinery that helps with
fixing helicopter and things like that.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
M h.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
If you're aware of that, that's probably in the back
of your mind. The other thing is ben what is
it called ther.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
IRR, which stands for Individual Ready Reserve?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Are these only people who have had some kind of
training and are then brought back after that training.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
I think it's the needs of Uncle Sam. So the
IRR basically is it's kind of a it's a gotcha.
It is for former active duty personnel if they need
to be pulled back. Let's say, all of a sudden,
we have a dearth of helicopter repair folks, we pull
back the ones that we already have invested time in
(41:27):
training and we know they have experienced, so we don't
have to start from square one. But this also can
include reserve military personnel. And we all know somebody who's
been in the reserves yet.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So theoretically, anyone who gets called back to work on
that helicopter would have at least the knowledge or be
trusted enough by that institution to be able to do
that work. It's just do they want to do that
work and they have has their mind changed in some
other way that we're unaware of in that span of
time between being active and now.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
And helicopter pilots are so cool. Okay, I'm going to
shut up about it, but I'm just so impressed with
helicopter pilots.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Guys, do you think that if the draft were enacted
that they would have any way of like, you know,
analyzing folks and making sure that they weren't going to
be potential saboteurs. Yes, they were forced to join and enlist,
that they wouldn't be literally trying to break down the
(42:27):
system from the inside.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Yeah, I think now more than ever, to steal a
line from Fox News behavioral profiling without getting into the
weeds of it, is what community would call streets ahead
of where it used to be back in the era
of the US's last conscription the Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
War, so to be along the lines of jury duty selection,
where they like, you know, cut people based on their
pre existing biases and things that would maybe cause problems
with the proceeds.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, and it's increasingly in private industry as well. It's
increasingly common for somebody's online activity to get analyzed. And
so it's sort of a balance between or we could
imagine it's balanced between the present and anticipated future need
of the military right for certain positions or moss, and
(43:22):
then with that the availability of people who have that
sometimes very rarefied training. And you know, it reminds me
of our conversation in an upcoming Strange News program about
a cop City activist who got jammed up and charged
and destroyed his phone basically before the fans could get
(43:45):
to it. He was being monitored because of his in
person activity, but also his online activity was very closely monitored.
So just be careful what you say, folks, careful what
you post, especially because social media, until my Space comes back,
social media is purposely designed to rage, bait you, to
(44:10):
get you to engage, to feel like you have done
the righteous thing by making a strong public statement, even
when it's bred and circuses and theater. We are in
a world now where there's an increasingly plausible possibility that
those statements which are innocuous and which are your right
under the First Amendment could be used against you.
Speaker 7 (44:33):
Now.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Of course, anybody who has served or is serving right now,
you all already know that the rules are a little
bit different for you as far as First Amendment goes,
and as far as being a member of the military goes.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I mean, it's the reality.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
We'd love to hear your thoughts about how you feel
or what's your take folks in the armed services of
any country. What's your take on the idea of your
freedom of speech being so heavily policed. We'd love to
hear your thoughts. Will continue with the truest Lock. This
is something where we're all going to vibe out for
(45:16):
a moment, because we're all very much on the same
page with you, truest Lock. You say, I'm against a draft,
but I would like to see some sort of mandatory
service requirement for those of sound mind and body, And
you bring up a point that we've talked about on air. Man,
I'm so glad that we're aligned on this. You says
the question we've asked ourselves to. Can you imagine what
(45:37):
our country would be like if everyone was expected and
even required to spend those first two years after high
school doing full time community service, so not being a bruiser,
not being in the trenches, right you're saying, I mean
things like working at homeless or battered women's shelters, or
like Sasquatch SD, working in a group home, tutoring kids,
(46:00):
cleaning up the environment, and truest lock. You end by saying,
I'd much rather see my taxes fund something like that.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
I occurred agree. You brought up the idea of too,
of like mandatory training rather than service, and I thought
we all thought that was interesting too. But it almost
feels like they could be combined in a way, like
forms of physical fitness and preparedness for any kind of
conflict so you can at least defend yourself. I don't know,
(46:28):
it just seems like other countries are way ahead of
us in that respect, in terms of, like, you know,
the kinds of things that citizens are expected to do.
Maybe not mandatory, but it just seems like they kind
of maybe do that stuff on their own, and here
not nearly as much. Honest say that some people don't.
But and also here we're in this country, we're kind
(46:48):
of of a mind of like we don't like being
told what to do to a fault, right.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Isn't it kind of weird? I'm thinking about our explorations
of groups that we would be painted at as potentially
domestic terrorist groups just mostly based on their ideology. But
there are groups out there that use that Second Amendment,
have a lot of firearms, learn how to use them,
and then they get together as prepared groups for whatever. Right,
(47:20):
sometimes it's for really bad things or depending on your.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Stancing, for sunde stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, but sometimes you know who knows what it's for sometimes,
and there's a really negative light that's shown on that,
I think across the entirety of just someone who would
want to be prepared or trained, right, who didn't go
through military training to get to have that understanding. And
I do wonder, I wonder what the Second Amendment is
(47:49):
for if it's not as somewhat organized you know, large
swath of Americans who are ready to defend you know,
let's say the Constitution or something against a small group
of people who maybe are the government themselves coming to
destroy that freedom thing. Then we're all standing for theoretically right.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yeah, And it's an important point folks that survivalism and
being prepared. It doesn't make you part of a monolithic demographic,
even when the media heavily dog whistles that way at
some points, the danger is real. We know about we
know about certain racially motivated hate groups joining the army
(48:32):
or joining the police entirely for the training, which then
they can they can then go communicate to their cohort
in say Idaho, just randomly pick an a state. But
that's funny for anybody who spent a lot of time
in Idaho. But this, I think we can agree that
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not only would community service and go a long way
towards the overall preparedness of the citizenry, but it also
will address a number of things that need to happen.
People would have a stronger sense of citizenship, a stronger
(49:16):
sense of unity in a society. Hopefully, if it works out,
we would also see significant health improvements. Right because people
would be training, you'd be required to do some modicum
of exercise according to your ability. That would have an
economic impact that would ultimately become hundreds of millions or
(49:37):
even billions of dollars. Because I've said it once, I've
said it before. Developed world healthcare, which the US does
not have is a matter of national security. Right, We've
got what a projected. I think it was some scary
percentage of people actually wouldn't qualify for military service, just
in basic health terms if a draft happened.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
It was a scary number.
Speaker 4 (50:00):
I'll have to look at our episode for more of that,
but it feels like it could be, if everything works out,
a win win. The issue is that a lot of people,
whether sincerely or cynically or with an ulterior motive, would
react violently to that idea because it would be seen
(50:22):
as government overreach. Right, Like I just got out of
high school, I want to take a gap year and
travel around the world. Or I got accepted to a
very exclusive university and I don't know if I can
get in two years later. Right, this is a scholarship,
so I have limited funds that I have accrued. There
(50:44):
are going to be all kinds of objections to it,
But guys, I feel like it would genuinely solve some
serious problems for the United States.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I think it could and absolutely.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Could until they make us do it. I want to
do it.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
I want to go now.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah, in my forties, let's go.
Speaker 7 (51:04):
I love it. You guys.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Know, I love the little validations in the trainings, a
little little CPR class and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
I think I compared it to like the Presidential Physical
Fitness Challenge that we had to do when we were kids.
I don't know how prevalent that is anymore in schools,
but just anything that kind of teaches a little bit
of accountability. Especially. I mean, I sound like, God, we are,
we all sound like Grandpa's at this point. But these
kids these days, you know, get outside, touch grass and
all that, it just feels like there's a certain lack
(51:31):
of physical accountability, you know, like be able to defend yourself,
being able to even like, I don't know how what
I'm trying to say, physical engagement, Yeah, physical engagements exactly.
And I mean not to say. Look, I maybe I'm
going through a bit of a fitness streak right now
(51:51):
in my life, and it's changed my life in so
many ways and made me realize what I was missing
when I wasn't doing that. So maybe it sounds like
I'm on a soapbox or something, but depression is so
prevalent with kids these days, and all this isolation and bubbles,
you know, and you push them sedentary lifestyle. You're pushed
down a sedentary lifestyle with the very nature of engagement
(52:13):
in the way these kids interact with one another. And
I think it's it's along a long enough timeline, it
could really cause some problems and cause some things, not
only physically to atrophy, but like psychologically. You know, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Yeah, yeah, well said no, And we know, look, we
know this is a continuing conversation. We would love to
hear your take, folks, especially if you're from a I
was talking to a friend who is from a country
where people do have mandated military service, and it was
really interesting to hear a first hand account of that,
(52:47):
because you get taught things that will benefit you for
the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (52:52):
You learn the easy every morning or every evening workout
regimen that doesn't need necessarily a bunch of expensive jim gear, right,
and it'll have noticeable health benefits as you age. Again,
you get that sense of community. We're not saying it's perfect,
but we would love to hear your thoughts, folks on
how best to apply that. So thank you to the
(53:14):
truest Locke. We've got one last thing here. We're gonna
in the words of Bill, O'Reilly, we're going to do
it live or semi.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Live over on almost what he said, it's almost.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
We're keeping in family show and Bill, I guess thanks
for tuning in.
Speaker 1 (53:33):
Is he alive?
Speaker 4 (53:35):
Well, whether you're alive or dead, thank you for tuning in.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Bill.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
Yeah, he keeps writing those killing blank books.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
Okay, oh yeah, right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
So we hope AI doesn't scrap your book bill books,
but they probably have. We heard from some of our
fellow conspiracy realist on social media, and one of them
is returning guests Devil and Rebel. We had a fantastic
time going to an observatory a while back. Super cool
(54:08):
hang adventure. Let us know if you ever want to
go to an observatory, folks. Here's what you hipped us to.
Speaker 3 (54:14):
Rebel.
Speaker 4 (54:15):
You said there is a Black Mirror episode that had
a hotline called one eight hundred round Up for the
express purpose of snitching on farmers saving seeds. We've talked
about this, right the terminator lines of seeds, where Monsanto's
business model was to sell proprietary seeds that would not
(54:39):
germinate new seeds, so you had to buy them every
season and they also were genetically modified in some cases
to be more resistant to other proprietary products like certain
pesticides like your roundups and so on, or herbicides what
have you.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
So if you.
Speaker 4 (54:57):
Didn't play the game, you got punished because because of
all the blowback from nearby farms that we're playing the game.
So Black Mirror is awesome. Check it out if you
haven't yet. We're all big, big fans here, and we
decided that on air we were going to test this out.
(55:18):
As you said, Rebel, the number is real. It is
one eight hundred seven six eight six three eight seven
and it routes anonymous tips straight to Monsanto's seed piracy investigators.
No calor id traced. All right, so here we go.
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Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah, this was really in a Black Mirror episode.
Speaker 4 (56:37):
Uh that that's what Rebel is saying. I haven't found
the episode, but the fact that the snitch line is
real is crazy. Bear acquired Monsanto. That's why it's called
the Bear line. Now and I uh, we'll continue here,
but I want to take a pause real quick to
let everybody know we did look up. We did look
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up privacy of their privacy policy, and it is bracing.
If you go to they say bear us on that
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(57:24):
which says it lists out the information that they can
collect about you, and the information is pretty crazy. They've
got multiple categories and the first category, just to give
us a taste of this, is that they can collect
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(57:48):
unique personal identifiers that'd be like your SSN or something
online identifier, so your Reddit name, your IP address, your
email address, account name, your driver's license number, passport number,
anything that can identify you. And that's just category A.
The categories go from A to K. They're not playing around,
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and I think we're I don't know, guys, I was
surprised that this is a real number. We have not
pressed three yet because you know we're not snitches, but rebel.
You also point out between nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve,
this company pursued two thousand to three hundred and ninety
one to four thousand, five hundred and thirty one seed
(58:33):
piracy matters against farmers, and our source for that is
the Center for Food Safety Records, meaning that these farmers,
by hook or by crook, paid an estimated eighty five
million to one hundred and sixty million dollars in settlements
for just for replanting patented round up ready soybeans instead
(58:55):
of buying new seeds. Something's rotten in the state of
agriculture generally, Jesus. I mean, as if farmers don't already
have it hard enough, right.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Yeah, guys, I'm wondering if that post that is referring
to this number and then saying it was a Black
Mirror episode. It seemed the only thing I'm seeing on it, guys,
is an TikTok and Instagram post. I think it might
be saying like using the phrase on today's episode of
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Black Mirror as a phrase that you know as like,
hey dystopic, Yes exactly, I think, But I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (59:36):
I think you're right because I was looking I couldn't
find a specific Black Mirror episode, so they're they're just saying, Rebel,
you could agree with us here that we are living
in a series of escalating Black Mirror episodes.
Speaker 3 (59:50):
That is true. Let us know, folks, if you.
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Have if you have had any run ins with Monsanto
or Bear as they prefer to be called. We'd also
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idea of mandatory service for your community, whether military or not.
Don't pet Jimothy if you see them, tell us your
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Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
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We're joined as always with our super producer, Dylan the
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That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know.
Listener Mail edition, So welcome to July thirtieth, twenty twenty six.
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folks right in the middle of one of our favorite
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That's right, because all of us. Leo's here, not all
of us, Dylan, I can't remember. I'm so sorry, I
can't remember. Are you Leo? No, I'm a virgo, so
I'm right behind you, okay, okay, or in.
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Front of us Dylan and and I guess it depends
on how you feel after listening to our episodes on
the calendar system, either here or on our sister show,
Ridiculous History. But speaking of getting in front of things, Tennessee,
the people have spoken. We have received so much email
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Okay, thinking about getting into cottage cheese, Guys for it.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It's good. It's not like a before a date food
just because it's gonna put you in a weird mind space. Yeah,
cottage cheeses.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Yeah, yeah, it's worth it, you know, knocking my way
up to us starting with non flavored Greek yogurt. Oh beautiful, beautiful,
great ingredient.
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It's Dylan. Can I just say that is not the
rude bega I anticipated would be playing before this episode,
and I was so happy.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Sometimes the rudebegga you need isn't always the rudebega you
were expecting, you know.
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To switch it up, Dylan, I've got a forward to you.
This will come into play in tonight's Lister Mail segment.
We have got a forward to you some awesome rude
de bega updates we got via email.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Hey, can I point out one thing? I saw Matt
put hot sauce on a spoon and I'm very curious.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Oh hey yeah, if you guys don't mind before we
get started, is that okay? Just do a quick shout out.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
This is gonna be like a hot one situation. Are
you gonna puke like I'm gonna Spider.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Boy, I'm gonna have a bit of this one and
just to see what it does, and just to show
that I mean it when when we say we're not
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It is a grape forward hot sauce that has edible
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it has edible glitter inside of it. It's hard to
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Speaker 3 (04:17):
Did we crack the code as to who the the
big glitter, uh client is?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Maybe it might be this.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's hot sauce. It's big hot sauce, little hot sauce.
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It's it's incredible stuff this one has in it if
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Yes, So I'm gonna get the hiccups try this and
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different kind of sauce. And oh yeah, it's incredible. Good god,
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it's hot.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It didn't even shout out the beautiful little letter that
he sent with it. It was just very kind to
the show and to all of us, especially you, Dylan,
very kind to everybody. We're not gonna read it because
it was sealed and we're gonna keep it sealed. Yeah,
what do you guys say? We take a break and
come right back with some voicemail. Let's do it, and
(05:36):
we've returned. Guys. Uh, we've been talking wrestling on the
show quite a bit. That was a big old episode
we did on wrestling. Yeah, yeah, okay, Fabe and just
wrestling in general. Well, we got a call from someone
going by Sasquatch Stunt Double, which I don't know, guys,
(05:56):
probably probably means they're large.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
And in charge.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
In fact, well, this person has direct experience with wrestling,
So let's hear what they have to say.
Speaker 7 (06:08):
Hey, guys, this is fast Quattion Stunt Double. I just
heard the episode about pro wrestling, and it's something I
actually had some experience with when I was working the
group Homes. I worked security as a side gig to
make extra money, and I got recruited to do pro
wrestling by the same guy that started saying Ultimate Warrior,
(06:31):
John Cina, Simoe and Joe the Minute, and a bunch
of other guys. His name was Rick Patt. I was
a kind of a big, weird looking dude with long dreadlocks,
and I had a unique look. And you guys were
talking about how Roy Ridge was a big problem with
the violence and stuff and personalized the pro wrestlers, and
I would say, it's more complicated than that. Unfortunately, a
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lot of people that get into pro wrestling have similar
mental health issues as a lot of other celebrities. But
like the best I can relate to it is like comedians.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
They have a desire to.
Speaker 7 (07:04):
Be up on stage, desire to be liked. A lot
of them have dark passed abuse things like that, and
there's heavy drug use in pro wrestling. I was one
of the unicorns. I've never been higher drunk in my life,
never did steroids or anything like that, and they kind
of put me on the outskirts with a lot of guys.
But painkillers is probably one of the biggest ones and
(07:27):
unprescribed psych meds is huge. I would watch guys crack
open tackle boxes loaded with pills for all kinds of
different stuff, and none of it obviously it was prescription,
or if it was prescription, it was from a kind
of underhanded doctor. But I'd see guys just so blitzed
out on painkillers and things like that that they can
(07:50):
barely function. And it does change the way your brain works,
the way you think. And then you couple that with steroids,
personal views on your own well being, your mental health,
things like that, and the stress of working three hundred
and sixty days a year, sometimes multiple shows per day,
constant travel. It's a lot and it can cause a
(08:13):
lot of negative mental feedback. I only did it for
a couple of years and I got hit by a car.
At the time I was doing it, I was unaware
of a lot of the darkness behind the scenes. I
got recruited to do it and thought it was fun
and got to travel, got to work with some pretty
big names. Never got famous or anything like that. They
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were constantly trying to develop me, but I sucked at
cutting promos, so it was one thing that they were
really trying to work with me. But yeah, I was
like six foot eight, so I was, I guess, the
type of guys that people like Vince McMahon and stuff
kind of looked for. Even though it was fun, while
I was doing it, I got to travel with all
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kinds of places around the world and through the US
met some cool people. I'm really glad that I didn't
stay in it, because if I would have seen some
of the darker side of the central trafficking and things
like that, I think I would have lost my mind
and went after somebody because I spent most of my
(09:17):
life working against that kind of stuff. So yeah, I
dodged a bullet on that one. Funny stories to take
with me, everything like that. But I found out about
the Vince McMahon thing about, you know, with the trafficking
and other things, probably a few years afterwards. But even
when I was doing the pro wrestling, there was a
(09:38):
lot of talk about how Van's really liked big guys
as well as girls, other promoters and things like that.
And there's a lot of shady stuff that I did
see behind the scenes with money and things like that.
Even some small independent menus onto like I even did
a couple of dark matches for the WWE and didn't
(10:01):
get too into depth, but did see some things, all right, guys,
if you got any questions or anything like that helped
Ultimate Warrior with his comeback to the ring, and that
was an interesting story. Wrestling Company out in Europe and
Wrestling Evolution and did walk away with a lot of
funny stories. So if you guys want any of those,
just let me know. I do think I have one
(10:22):
picture of me from back in that day, so if
you want one of those, I could probably send it
and yeah, cool, all right, talk to you later. Yes,
you can use this as unusual on the air if
you want.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Boom, Well, there we go. There's our message from a
real life wrestler. What do you guys think it tracks?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
But to hear it said with such specificity and you know,
eyewitness account, it definitely still kind of hits a little different,
especially considering I mean, I guess you know we would
have assumed and we talked about on the episode the
performance enhancing drugs, But I guess it also does make
sense in such a fast moving, fast paced, oftentimes on
(11:03):
the road rock star kind of lifestyle that you know,
illegal drugs, stimulants and painkillers and things like that would
also be in play.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Yeah, and the mental health stuff is also sasquatch SD
if I could be familiar with you. That's something that
I was unaware of. But as Noel said, it makes sense.
And Matt, I believe that you actually reached out.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Is this correct?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
We talked for quite a while, learned a lot of things,
heard some of those funny stories that we probably aren't
gonna repeat most of them here. I might recount one
because I had to do with the Ultimate Warrior and
you guys, like in your head, if somebody says Ultimate Warrior,
can you hear his voice?
Speaker 3 (11:51):
I can see his makeup, but I don't remember what
his battle cry was. I imagine it was gravelly? Was
it gravelly?
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Yeah? Out?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I get Macho Man, Randy Savage and Ultimate Warrior kind
of mixed up in my head. I would say the
general vibe, and this is no offense to those guys.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
The vibe is.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Mildly coked up kind of that, you know, really excited,
really intense races.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
All of those guys in their interviews, like call Cogan
and those guys, they're sweating, They're like their necks are
popping veins, out of theirs, so they're all coked up. Man.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I thought that was a really interesting thing that Sasquatch
was talking about. The one thing he says or he self,
you know, prescribes that he wasn't good at we're making
those promos, which are those are the things we remember
more than anything, because that was like straight to the camera,
right up close a character, right showing off and telling
you why you need to watch the match, which is
(12:49):
really the big show, right. The match is the big show,
but that promo is the reason people got so hyped
about the individual characters.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That's where they spread the lore and like, yes, verbalize
the beat. Then they're talking to the camera, but they're
also oftentimes talking to the camera as if it's their opponent.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Right, m m m hm, and to you then the viewer, right,
So it's almost like they're coming to fight you in
a way. There's a great episode of Amy Poehler's podcast
recently that featured John Cena, and he talked a lot
about how interactive a wrestling show is, how the audience
itself is the show or makes the show what it is,
(13:27):
because often as part of the improvisation that goes on
in the ring. You are playing off directly of what
the audience is reacting to or feeling. And he was
saying again, great interview. He was saying that one of
his favorite things is to kind of work the audience
via like a single move or a thing. They would
do that, the two wrestlers in the ring would kind
(13:48):
of decide in the moment and talk to themselves about
what they're gonna do, and then the reaction lets them
know what the next two or three things are. It's like,
holy crap, just so freaking cool. Sasquatch's stunt double did
send us that picture that he mentioned. Would we like
to see what he looks like?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I sure would.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Here we go. Here is the man.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Huh. He's very tall and he's rocking undertaker vibes. I
gotta say he's given undertaker here.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And I gotta say, Sasquatch SD, we owe you an email.
But I am loving the vest you're rocking.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
This is just that the vest combined with the dreads
and the chops. It's a true ensemble.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Oh yes, And this image that we are looking at
everybody with what appears to be a white long sleeve shirt,
a tie, a vest over top of thats pinstripes. He
has got quite a many dread on. He's got a
cool goatee going on and some cool I don't know
what you call that, guys. It's like a beard, but
it's like a very low trimmed beard. Chops chops okay, yes,
(14:58):
and ear earrings or maybe that's part of his hair.
I can't tell. Dude looks imposing. And this is from
a pilot of a reality wrestling TV show that I
guess never went anywhere called.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
The House of Pain.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I think the House of Hurt is what it was called,
not House of Pain. That's a different thing. One last
thing I wanted to share with Sasquatch's stunt double Dylan.
He is on a truck a lot of his life
working on with a truck and things, and he cooks
(15:33):
on his truck very often. And he sent us an
entire recipe and an image of a rude abaga dish
that he created. WHOA, yes, So it's kind of hard
to see in the picture. We'll have to make sure
we look at the recipe that he sent in via email,
But that is a giant plate of essentially roasted mashed
(15:57):
rude begas with lamb stew on top of.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
It had me at lamps too. But I'll stay for that.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Beautiful, incredible stuff. Okay, look, I hope this is okay
with you, Sasquatch, if you're listening, I'm gonna tell one
quick story about an interaction that he had with the
Ultimate Warrior. It has been stated and been written about
that the Ultimate Warrior, when in character and perhaps not
in character, is a bit intense. We've seen the promos.
(16:30):
You look him up if you don't know him the
character at least. There's a moment when Sasquatch is working with,
like pretty closely with Ultimate Warrior, and he has been
working around a bunch of other people. He finally has
an opportunity to attempt to go out on a date
on someone. He with someone he was interested in, and
(16:51):
this person as they're at dinner, like a very nice dinner,
they're having conversation and the person he is on a
date with expresses a bit of hesitation about potentially dating
a wrestler. Because the Crispin waw thing, a lot of
the you know, news about CTE potential aggressiveness. Wrestlers had
(17:12):
a pretty bad rap in the news at this time.
And she's expressing this to him, and he is attempting
just to say, you know, I'm not all like that,
as he said in the message, you know, I don't drink,
I don't do drugs. I'm I'm a clean guy. And
there are all these reasons like I'm not like that,
and I'm really interested in you. And as he is
explaining this, the Ultimate Warrior in character comes up behind
(17:35):
him and he just says, when the.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Ultimate Warrior says it's time to go, it's time.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
To go, and he has to basically as part of
his job, like you gotta go, I guess, And that
was and that was it.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
That was that. I'm looking this up. But the Ultimate
Warrior passed away under the somewhat suspicious circumstances, and there
are definitely some conspiracies surrounding that. And the guy's name,
his last name was Hellwig, which I think is I
don't think I've ever heard that name before in my life.
But I literally found a YouTube video of the final
(18:13):
forty eight hours of the Ultimate Warrior and talking about
some sort of fishy contradictions in the reporting surrounding his death.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Oh so there are definitely things we need to look
up for sure. Anyway, There's there's so much more we
could say about sasquatching, his travels with wrestling and all
the good work he does in group homes and places
like that, and just the cool human that he is,
(18:43):
and there's there's lots to say. One of the last
things he wanted to point out to us is about
the talent pipeline that wrestling has kind of always had,
and he was mentioning Andre the Giant specifically in Roddy
Piper and some of these wrestlers. If you think back
to the eighties and even kind of before that, when
(19:04):
a wrestler would be seen on screen as an actor,
not just as the wrestler right or as a character
in that way, but as someone who is good at
acting and doing a great job at it, becoming this
other thing because they're so used to becoming a character
right through kfabe and through all of that stuff. Just
about how great of a match that kind of always
(19:24):
has been. There's lots of other things to say. This
hot Sauce, by the way, is kicking.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
My butt and it's still it's a slow burn.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
That's all for this segment against Shout Out Sasquatch's stunt double.
We hope you do awesome out there. And oh last thing,
Dylan on my notes here, he says he was going
through Walmart and he literally saw Rudabega's and got so
excited because of our rutabaga segments that you create. So
thank you, Dylan, be the rude bega you wish to
(19:59):
see in the world. We'll be right back after word
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Speaker 3 (20:08):
And we're back. And this message comes to us from
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raccoon celebrity, thought you guys should get a kick out
of this. The Seattle sub has all kinds of stuff
on it, and then he links to a few fantastic pieces. Guys, Ben,
(20:34):
I know you in particular, we're fascinated by this tale. Matt.
I think you hadn't seen quite as much about it
as Ben and I at the time that we brought
it up to you. But Jimothy is a raccoon that
has been spotted in and around the Seattle area in
the Pacific Northwest, and he is a raccoon with a
(20:56):
some kind of congenital spinal condition that essentially has led
to him looking like the whole misshole mid section was
kind of removed, so his fore legs and back legs
are right next to one another. He looks like some
sort of thing you might see in the ben what's that?
What's that? What's that kind of fake compendium of like
(21:21):
mythical creatures cod Codex Seraphina, And it looks like the
kind of thing you might see in a book like that.
You know immediately it's easy when looking at a thing
like this, uh to question it a little bit. And
we're going to get into that the whole like is
this even real? Is this ai?
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
And I think that the memification of Jimithy that happened
so quickly, it seemed like just overnight, this guy was
all over my particular feed, like you know, fan art
being created, you know, people getting tattoos, all kinds of
stuff surrounding Jimothy the raccoon. And it all started when
(22:00):
a woman named Keana Hall was leaving a good will
in the Ballard area of Seattle around eight thirty on
a Monday night, and she saw what she thought was
a cat underneath the car, took out her phone, filmed it,
and just absolutely her jaw dropped as she saw this
very unusual looking creature creeping out from the shadows. There's
(22:25):
a great piece in the Seattle Times that sort of
lays out the timeline of Jimothy and the lore of
it all. Meet Jimothy, Seattle's Internet famous raccoon, and guys,
we did have a chance to chat about this a
little bit. And how oftentimes when we talk about cryptids,
the conversation tends towards what was the thing actually that
(22:47):
somebody maybe miss construed, right, or that a number of
people misconstrued, And you know, what is the nature of
spotting cryptids? And then the game of telephone that happens,
and in a time before the overnight internet memification of
something like jimithy, how that kind of game of telephone
(23:09):
can really distort things. And all of a sudden, maybe
a jaguar or like a wolf or some kind of
feral dog can all of a sudden become like this,
you know Camara or you know the Troupacabra or the
Jersey Devil or what have you. And so this whole
conversation around Jimothy, which by the way, was almost derailed. Guys,
(23:33):
somebody took to Instagram, or rather to Reddit and posted
that they were responsible for creating Jimothy the Raccoon using
an AI image generation platform called higgs Field. And I've
got to say, guys, after really enjoying Jimothy and being
(23:53):
super excited and sharing it with a lot of people
and then seeing this one headline people reporting one in
particular on technology Instagram account, which is usually pretty reputable,
they just breathlessly posted breaking viral raccoon is allegedly AI generated.
Reddit user just admitted he made it on unlimited higgs Field.
(24:14):
The headline to the Reddit post in off my chest,
which I guess as maybe you guys know this one
makes sense. I guess it's a forum where people can
confess to things. Yeah, exactly, I created Jimothy the Raccoon.
Everyone's cashing in on him except me zero dollars. This
user posted mayonnaise on cheese, which is really gross sounding. Sorry,
(24:39):
I just the way that that wrote me the wrong way,
and so, I you know, I saw this and immediately
was like, oh, of course that's true. Of course it's
not real. How stupid of me to believe that something
like this could be real, And so I immediately wrote
it off and even told a few people that I
had shared it with, almost to absolve myself in a
way that just guys sad stat story. Jimothy's not real,
(25:02):
it turns out, but no, he very much is. This
is clearly after reading the responses and digging in a
little deeper, this mayonnaise on cheese character should have been
a bit of a clue that he cited a specific
platform by the way, unlimited higgs Field. It was clearly
trying to capitalize on it and make some money for
(25:24):
an image creation platform that perhaps he had something to
do with. There were tags even on yeah on it,
like for like what do you call those partner programs?
Higgs Field partner and hashtager like a added higgs Field
dot ai you know what's funny? Yeah, technology even got
(25:47):
in on the action there, it would seem. And so
it says this user dropped a confession. He claims he
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Speaker 4 (26:05):
I think I feel that uncommon though, especially on subreddits.
I mean, you can't easily identify people, so you have
to take them at their word unless they provide hard
evidence or corroborating links. But no, I know you'll find
this fascinating. Uh, there's been a growing thing with the
dead Internet theory and the proliferation of bots. There's been
(26:28):
a growing thing where people will go into uh subreddit
or a comment thread and then try to do what
is essentially native advertising. So do you think this Mayo
and Cheese character was trying to do something similar?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Could well be? Man, I just think it's it's even Yes,
that is fascinating that that is a thing, and the
whole dead Internet theory and the bots of it all,
and like identifying them as becoming harder and harder and comments.
But there are usually tells it was such an emotional
roller because I was so tickled by the existence of
this lovely little guy. There was even another video that
(27:05):
showed him having a baby. Don't know if that's real
or not, because once you have maybe part of it's real.
But then of course because of this footage, existing people
can then ingest that into AI tools and make new things. Right, So,
even though we've got the piece of footage that this
woman filmed in this parking lot by the Goodwill, then
it is easy for others and users out there to
(27:27):
ingest that and make new things out of it that
aren't real. So it just muddies the water even further.
But it really was a lesson to me again, trust
but verify, but mainly verify, because it wasn't even until
I was looking into this a little bit later after
I had decided that he wasn't real, that I realized
it absolutely was real and the footage is authentic, and
(27:49):
we do.
Speaker 4 (27:50):
All have the biological sex if Jimothy determined just yet
do we?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
I don't believe we do. Jimothy was a nickname that
the person shooting the footage came up with she captured it,
Jimothy the raccoon with short spine syndrome. While it is
not known for sure if the condition has caused his appearance,
many have assumed as such and the description has stuck.
So it is a good example of, like you know,
(28:16):
something absolutely going viral. And this was an Instagram reel.
It attracted more and more likes, comments and reposts of
the BBC reporting, with more than eight million views as
of this article came out five days ago, so as
of last Friday. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, man.
I'd love to just unpack really quickly more of this
(28:36):
idea of you know, you could go so far as
to call Jimothy a cryptid, kind of he's not, you know,
he's a species that exists. So I guess my question
then becomes like, what does a cryptid need to be?
Does it have to be a species that we have
not yet identified? Can it be a mutation of some kind?
(28:57):
And what is the nature of these eyewitness account quote
unquo that can lead to some real distorted stories. And
where are we at now in the advent of AI
and memes in terms of identifying new cryptids.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
That's a great series of questions, NOL. We know, just
to walk back through those. For anybody who's checked out
our episode on cryptozoology or many specific episodes on certain
types of alleged cryptids, you'll know the definition is tricky
because it essentially means some kind of organism an animal
(29:33):
that has yet to be officially cataloged and identified by,
let's be honest, primarily Western scientists. So it's like a UFO, right,
as soon as you identify it, it's no longer a UFO.
So as soon as you can look at something that
largely Western science we call it cryptid and you can say, oh,
(29:54):
that's a selacanth, that it's no longer encrypted. It's just
one of the uglier that we know of. No offense
to those guys. Thanks for tuning in Sei the Camps exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a really good point, Matt.
I know this is something that fascinates to you as well.
Since we've talked again off Mike about I think you
made the point about that that whole eye witness aspect
of the way cryptids and their mythology kind of come
into being, especially in a time before things could spread
so quickly on the Internet. I was wondering where you
(30:27):
feel like Jimothy fits into that and how things have
changed in terms of maybe there's a reason and we
don't hear about new cryptids as much as maybe we
did in the past.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Oh yeah, for sure. A lot of it has to
do with light sources. I think in access to light
sources or how common they are, and the access to
camera equipment, right, and whatever shape or form that is,
those two things together. I'll tell you this way, guys.
(31:00):
I recently went to a reunion with my family out
at a state park in Ohio and it's in the
middle of nowhere. There's not a ton of light sources.
We did stay in cabins, but we're all kind of
in our own individual cabins, hanging out in the middle
of the woods. And when I say in the middle
of the woods, guys, I'm talking isolated. And there was
all kinds of wildlife out there because it's in a forest,
(31:23):
and at night, if you go outside, there's weird sounds.
There's weird rustling, you know, in bushes and in trees
that you can't identify if you don't have a flashlight
on it. And well, I was going to show you
guys this, but it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
But it is.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
This is a thing that happened in the waste the
big waste bin outside That is not jimithy, but it
is a raccoon that was stuck in the huge waste bin.
It was stuck in there, couldn't get out so we
managed to get it out, but we heard weird sounds
at night. And you know, if I can imagine if
(32:02):
somebody opened that bin in the middle of the night
without light and just saw some eyes down there, right,
and then ran away, what the hell was in the thing?
I don't know, you can imagine the stories could grow
from there, even though there would be you know, not naysayers,
but people saying, hey, that was probably just a raccoon.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That's right, I mean, And we talked about it recently,
I believe in a discussion of a particular cryptid that
was like possibly like an eel or something like that.
What was the deal with that? It was like a
water thank you very much. Yeah, but it was like
we barracuda maybe is where we landed or something like that.
(32:41):
But there were a sturgeon, thank you. They were all
these options though, right, and we heard all of these
different accounts that gave it all kinds of extra appendages.
And then when you really boil it down and look
at what a sturgeon looks like, you're like, oh, maybe
I could see that if you squinted, you know, but yeah,
with something like a raccoon, if you could have a
story like this developed from seeing just a normal raccoon
(33:04):
in low light rummaging around. But when you have something
like this very clear footage of this, you know, this
guy with his whole midsection removed essentially, I guess that
changes the conversation. But it also kind of is the
reason I'm asking the questions about, Like, is does that
change the nature of like how we talk about these
(33:24):
kinds of things, And is it like does it remove
some of the magic like it?
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Yeah, I mean bigfoot sightings have plummeted as av technology
becomes more democratized.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
It's true. I think it's surprising to any of us,
and I think we're all a big fan of being
objective and looking at all the facts, but we also
like a little magic and mystery too, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Well, yeah, as we've said so many times, we surely
haven't discovered every species. We know that for sure, because
new species get discovered literally every day, sometimes to the
tune of hundreds or thousands, depending on where you're talking,
especially in the ocean, not so much on the land anymore.
But it does happen, and you can find stories like
check out the subreddit on science you'll see it all
(34:10):
the time.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, Ben, I didn't mean to cut you off. I'm
fascinated about this bigfoot sightings plummeting because I mean, obviously
that is sort of the I don't know, cadillac of
cryptid sightings, is the sasquatch or the Bigfoot? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, And one point that we always want to make,
and I don't want to sound preachy or hyperbolic here,
but it's very important personally to me, folks, and I
think to all of us to always highlight in discussions
about cryptozoology that, yes, as Matt said, more and more
species are being discovered, this is actually the best time
(34:43):
in human history to find those previously unidentified creatures. But
it's the best time for very bad reasons. Human encroachment
upon the wild, the devastation of ecological systems that push
creatures into habitats they would not normally visit or explore.
(35:04):
So if you want to be a cryptozoologist, folks, first off,
it's very easy to get qualified because academia kind of
poo poos it as a science similar to uthology. But secondly,
this is the best time right now to be a cryptozoologist.
And if you are in the fields of zoology, or biology,
(35:28):
or you're exploring the ocean depths. You may not want
to hear the C word bandied about. And we get
that because it can be an issue of credibility to
some academics and researchers. But thank you for doing it,
because the more we learn about the world around us,
hopefully the better prepared we are to save it.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Here here, and just in case anyone's wondering, the State
Health Department of Washington says that Jimothy poses zero public
health risk. That's not to approach him, pat him, cuddle him,
or feed him. That is true of any of these
little furry fellas of any length or shape. And I
(36:09):
think the takeaway here will end with comes from Jamie
Slack writing on her blog Totally the Bomb, who's quoted
on this BBC piece. The Internet is a lot. It
is too much, constantly in every direction. And then Jimothy
shows up, and for one brief, weird moment, everyone is
on the same page, rooting for this little gremlin, giggling
(36:30):
in his name, feeling weirdly connected to strangers over absolutely nothing.
I think so too. All right, guys, let's take a
quick pause. Hear a word from our sponsors, and then
we back with our last piece of listener mail.
Speaker 4 (36:48):
We have returned friends and neighbors. We are going to
open this last part of our listener mail program with
a response to our Conscription episode, and thank you, by
the way, to everybody who took the time to write
in or contact us regarding that episode. The draft has
(37:08):
a resurgence of interest now as the war with Iran
escalates and the US makes more adventures abroad. So we're
going to hear from the truest Lock and then we're
going to do a little bit of an experiment on air.
So truest Lock, hope you like the nickname. Tell us
if you don't, you say the following. You say, it's
(37:31):
me again. I just finished the episode on conscription and
hear truest Lock is going to clarify some things and
give all of us tuning in todite some information we
need to know. Truest Lock, you continue when you say, well,
it's true, is Lock da that we do not currently
(37:52):
have a draft in the United States. I don't think
that a lot of people know about the ir R
or individual ready reserve, and this is interesting. We'll give
you truest Locke's explanation of it, and then we're gonna
let's discuss it a little bit together. Truest Lock, you say,
you see, a four year enlistment is not what it seems.
(38:14):
While I'm sure there are some exceptions, some people actually
enlist in the US military for a minimum of eight years.
You are on active duty for the length of your contract,
usually four years, but if you choose to end your
service there, you can still be recalled to active duty
for the remainder of that eight year period. It doesn't
(38:37):
happen often, says truest Luck, but I have witnessed it.
During my last combat tour, my company reached out to
a sister unit for some help with an unusually heavy
day of helicopter maintenance. This story is fascinating to me, guys,
and I'd love your take on it. Here we go,
you say, one of the guys who came over was
(38:58):
new to me, and I asked him where he was from.
It turned out that he had been recalled after being
back in civilian life for a couple of years. This
is where things get interesting. I was one of the
many soldiers I knew who is and was against a draft.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
I told him.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
He was welcome to hang out and chill if he wanted,
but as someone who was not there by choice, I
just wasn't comfortable with him working on my helicopter. I
just didn't trust my life to someone who wasn't there
of their own free will. Let's pause there, guys.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
It's an excellent point. It's an excellent point.
Speaker 4 (39:34):
IRR is something I think a lot of people don't
know about until maybe after they sign up, or if
they've got military history in their family. And that point
about being chill and being respectful and saying, hey, if
you don't want to be here, I feel a little
weird trusting my life and my bird to you. I've
(39:56):
got to say, guys, I feel like that's a very
understandable thing. And also shout out to helicopter pilots, you
all are just born different.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
No, straight out, I mean, I think I think we
said the same thing in the conversation where it's like
conscientious objectors and just the idea of okay, well, if
you were forced to do it, especially if you were
at a more advanced age, you probably wouldn't be qualified,
not to mention, mentally prepared, and I mean for lack
of a better expression, going in with a good attitude.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Well, two things I'm remembering here, guys. I remember remembering
our episode Let's learn simple sabotage. Remember we talked about
that and how people might be urged to let's say,
sabotage a helicopter or you know, machinery that helps with
fixing helicopter and things like that.
Speaker 6 (40:47):
M h.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
If you're aware of that, that's probably in the back
of your mind. The other thing is ben what is
it called ther.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
IRR, which stands for Individual Ready Reserve?
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Are these only people who have had some kind of
training and are then brought back after that training.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
I think it's the needs of Uncle Sam. So the
IRR basically is it's kind of a it's a gotcha.
It is for former active duty personnel if they need
to be pulled back. Let's say, all of a sudden,
we have a dearth of helicopter repair folks, we pull
back the ones that we already have invested time in
(41:27):
training and we know they have experienced, so we don't
have to start from square one. But this also can
include reserve military personnel. And we all know somebody who's
been in the reserves yet.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
So theoretically, anyone who gets called back to work on
that helicopter would have at least the knowledge or be
trusted enough by that institution to be able to do
that work. It's just do they want to do that
work and they have has their mind changed in some
other way that we're unaware of in that span of
time between being active and now.
Speaker 4 (42:01):
And helicopter pilots are so cool. Okay, I'm going to
shut up about it, but I'm just so impressed with
helicopter pilots.
Speaker 3 (42:07):
Guys, do you think that if the draft were enacted
that they would have any way of like, you know,
analyzing folks and making sure that they weren't going to
be potential saboteurs. Yes, they were forced to join and enlist,
that they wouldn't be literally trying to break down the
(42:27):
system from the inside.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
Yeah, I think now more than ever, to steal a
line from Fox News behavioral profiling without getting into the
weeds of it, is what community would call streets ahead
of where it used to be back in the era
of the US's last conscription the Vietnam.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
War, so to be along the lines of jury duty selection,
where they like, you know, cut people based on their
pre existing biases and things that would maybe cause problems
with the proceeds.
Speaker 4 (43:00):
Yeah, and it's increasingly in private industry as well. It's
increasingly common for somebody's online activity to get analyzed. And
so it's sort of a balance between or we could
imagine it's balanced between the present and anticipated future need
of the military right for certain positions or moss, and
(43:22):
then with that the availability of people who have that
sometimes very rarefied training. And you know, it reminds me
of our conversation in an upcoming Strange News program about
a cop City activist who got jammed up and charged
and destroyed his phone basically before the fans could get
(43:45):
to it. He was being monitored because of his in
person activity, but also his online activity was very closely monitored.
So just be careful what you say, folks, careful what
you post, especially because social media, until my Space comes back,
social media is purposely designed to rage, bait you, to
(44:10):
get you to engage, to feel like you have done
the righteous thing by making a strong public statement, even
when it's bred and circuses and theater. We are in
a world now where there's an increasingly plausible possibility that
those statements which are innocuous and which are your right
under the First Amendment could be used against you.
Speaker 7 (44:33):
Now.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Of course, anybody who has served or is serving right now,
you all already know that the rules are a little
bit different for you as far as First Amendment goes,
and as far as being a member of the military goes.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I mean, it's the reality.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
We'd love to hear your thoughts about how you feel
or what's your take folks in the armed services of
any country. What's your take on the idea of your
freedom of speech being so heavily policed. We'd love to
hear your thoughts. Will continue with the truest Lock. This
is something where we're all going to vibe out for
(45:16):
a moment, because we're all very much on the same
page with you, truest Lock. You say, I'm against a draft,
but I would like to see some sort of mandatory
service requirement for those of sound mind and body, And
you bring up a point that we've talked about on air. Man,
I'm so glad that we're aligned on this. You says
the question we've asked ourselves to. Can you imagine what
(45:37):
our country would be like if everyone was expected and
even required to spend those first two years after high
school doing full time community service, so not being a bruiser,
not being in the trenches, right you're saying, I mean
things like working at homeless or battered women's shelters, or
like Sasquatch SD, working in a group home, tutoring kids,
(46:00):
cleaning up the environment, and truest lock. You end by saying,
I'd much rather see my taxes fund something like that.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
I occurred agree. You brought up the idea of too,
of like mandatory training rather than service, and I thought
we all thought that was interesting too. But it almost
feels like they could be combined in a way, like
forms of physical fitness and preparedness for any kind of
conflict so you can at least defend yourself. I don't know,
(46:28):
it just seems like other countries are way ahead of
us in that respect, in terms of, like, you know,
the kinds of things that citizens are expected to do.
Maybe not mandatory, but it just seems like they kind
of maybe do that stuff on their own, and here
not nearly as much. Honest say that some people don't.
But and also here we're in this country, we're kind
(46:48):
of of a mind of like we don't like being
told what to do to a fault, right.
Speaker 2 (46:54):
Isn't it kind of weird? I'm thinking about our explorations
of groups that we would be painted at as potentially
domestic terrorist groups just mostly based on their ideology. But
there are groups out there that use that Second Amendment,
have a lot of firearms, learn how to use them,
and then they get together as prepared groups for whatever. Right,
(47:20):
sometimes it's for really bad things or depending on your.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
Stancing, for sunde stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
Yeah, but sometimes you know who knows what it's for sometimes,
and there's a really negative light that's shown on that,
I think across the entirety of just someone who would
want to be prepared or trained, right, who didn't go
through military training to get to have that understanding. And
I do wonder, I wonder what the Second Amendment is
(47:49):
for if it's not as somewhat organized you know, large
swath of Americans who are ready to defend you know,
let's say the Constitution or something against a small group
of people who maybe are the government themselves coming to
destroy that freedom thing. Then we're all standing for theoretically right.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
Yeah, And it's an important point folks that survivalism and
being prepared. It doesn't make you part of a monolithic demographic,
even when the media heavily dog whistles that way at
some points, the danger is real. We know about we
know about certain racially motivated hate groups joining the army
(48:32):
or joining the police entirely for the training, which then
they can they can then go communicate to their cohort
in say Idaho, just randomly pick an a state. But
that's funny for anybody who spent a lot of time
in Idaho. But this, I think we can agree that
(48:55):
not only would community service and go a long way
towards the overall preparedness of the citizenry, but it also
will address a number of things that need to happen.
People would have a stronger sense of citizenship, a stronger
(49:16):
sense of unity in a society. Hopefully, if it works out,
we would also see significant health improvements. Right because people
would be training, you'd be required to do some modicum
of exercise according to your ability. That would have an
economic impact that would ultimately become hundreds of millions or
(49:37):
even billions of dollars. Because I've said it once, I've
said it before. Developed world healthcare, which the US does
not have is a matter of national security. Right, We've
got what a projected. I think it was some scary
percentage of people actually wouldn't qualify for military service, just
in basic health terms if a draft happened.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
It was a scary number.
Speaker 4 (50:00):
I'll have to look at our episode for more of that,
but it feels like it could be, if everything works out,
a win win. The issue is that a lot of people,
whether sincerely or cynically or with an ulterior motive, would
react violently to that idea because it would be seen
(50:22):
as government overreach. Right, Like I just got out of
high school, I want to take a gap year and
travel around the world. Or I got accepted to a
very exclusive university and I don't know if I can
get in two years later. Right, this is a scholarship,
so I have limited funds that I have accrued. There
(50:44):
are going to be all kinds of objections to it,
But guys, I feel like it would genuinely solve some
serious problems for the United States.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
I think it could and absolutely.
Speaker 3 (50:56):
Could until they make us do it. I want to
do it.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
I want to go now.
Speaker 3 (51:02):
Yeah, in my forties, let's go.
Speaker 7 (51:04):
I love it. You guys.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Know, I love the little validations in the trainings, a
little little CPR class and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
I think I compared it to like the Presidential Physical
Fitness Challenge that we had to do when we were kids.
I don't know how prevalent that is anymore in schools,
but just anything that kind of teaches a little bit
of accountability. Especially. I mean, I sound like, God, we are,
we all sound like Grandpa's at this point. But these
kids these days, you know, get outside, touch grass and
all that, it just feels like there's a certain lack
(51:31):
of physical accountability, you know, like be able to defend yourself,
being able to even like, I don't know how what
I'm trying to say, physical engagement, Yeah, physical engagements exactly.
And I mean not to say. Look, I maybe I'm
going through a bit of a fitness streak right now
(51:51):
in my life, and it's changed my life in so
many ways and made me realize what I was missing
when I wasn't doing that. So maybe it sounds like
I'm on a soapbox or something, but depression is so
prevalent with kids these days, and all this isolation and bubbles,
you know, and you push them sedentary lifestyle. You're pushed
down a sedentary lifestyle with the very nature of engagement
(52:13):
in the way these kids interact with one another. And
I think it's it's along a long enough timeline, it
could really cause some problems and cause some things, not
only physically to atrophy, but like psychologically. You know, I
don't know.
Speaker 4 (52:26):
Yeah, yeah, well said no, And we know, look, we
know this is a continuing conversation. We would love to
hear your take, folks, especially if you're from a I
was talking to a friend who is from a country
where people do have mandated military service, and it was
really interesting to hear a first hand account of that,
(52:47):
because you get taught things that will benefit you for
the rest of your life.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Right.
Speaker 4 (52:52):
You learn the easy every morning or every evening workout
regimen that doesn't need necessarily a bunch of expensive jim gear, right,
and it'll have noticeable health benefits as you age. Again,
you get that sense of community. We're not saying it's perfect,
but we would love to hear your thoughts, folks on
how best to apply that. So thank you to the
(53:14):
truest Locke. We've got one last thing here. We're gonna
in the words of Bill, O'Reilly, we're going to do
it live or semi.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Live over on almost what he said, it's almost.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
We're keeping in family show and Bill, I guess thanks
for tuning in.
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Speaker 4 (53:35):
Well, whether you're alive or dead, thank you for tuning in.
Speaker 3 (53:37):
Bill.
Speaker 5 (53:38):
Yeah, he keeps writing those killing blank books.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
Okay, oh yeah, right, that's right.
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So we hope AI doesn't scrap your book bill books,
but they probably have. We heard from some of our
fellow conspiracy realist on social media, and one of them
is returning guests Devil and Rebel. We had a fantastic
time going to an observatory a while back. Super cool
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Rebel.
Speaker 4 (54:15):
You said there is a Black Mirror episode that had
a hotline called one eight hundred round Up for the
express purpose of snitching on farmers saving seeds. We've talked
about this, right the terminator lines of seeds, where Monsanto's
business model was to sell proprietary seeds that would not
(54:39):
germinate new seeds, so you had to buy them every
season and they also were genetically modified in some cases
to be more resistant to other proprietary products like certain
pesticides like your roundups and so on, or herbicides what
have you.
Speaker 3 (54:57):
So if you.
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Didn't play the game, you got punished because because of
all the blowback from nearby farms that we're playing the game.
So Black Mirror is awesome. Check it out if you
haven't yet. We're all big, big fans here, and we
decided that on air we were going to test this out.
(55:18):
As you said, Rebel, the number is real. It is
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and it routes anonymous tips straight to Monsanto's seed piracy investigators.
No calor id traced. All right, so here we go.
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Speaker 3 (56:32):
We're gonna we could call it back.
Speaker 2 (56:34):
Yeah, this was really in a Black Mirror episode.
Speaker 4 (56:37):
Uh that that's what Rebel is saying. I haven't found
the episode, but the fact that the snitch line is
real is crazy. Bear acquired Monsanto. That's why it's called
the Bear line. Now and I uh, we'll continue here,
but I want to take a pause real quick to
let everybody know we did look up. We did look
(56:59):
up privacy of their privacy policy, and it is bracing.
If you go to they say bear us on that
message we just heard. But if you go to Bear
dot com bears privacy statements on their website, what you're
going to be looking for is their privacy statement addendum,
(57:24):
which says it lists out the information that they can
collect about you, and the information is pretty crazy. They've
got multiple categories and the first category, just to give
us a taste of this, is that they can collect
whatever they wish identifiers like your real name, alias, post address,
(57:48):
unique personal identifiers that'd be like your SSN or something
online identifier, so your Reddit name, your IP address, your
email address, account name, your driver's license number, passport number,
anything that can identify you. And that's just category A.
The categories go from A to K. They're not playing around,
(58:11):
and I think we're I don't know, guys, I was
surprised that this is a real number. We have not
pressed three yet because you know we're not snitches, but rebel.
You also point out between nineteen ninety seven and twenty twelve,
this company pursued two thousand to three hundred and ninety
one to four thousand, five hundred and thirty one seed
(58:33):
piracy matters against farmers, and our source for that is
the Center for Food Safety Records, meaning that these farmers,
by hook or by crook, paid an estimated eighty five
million to one hundred and sixty million dollars in settlements
for just for replanting patented round up ready soybeans instead
(58:55):
of buying new seeds. Something's rotten in the state of
agriculture generally, Jesus. I mean, as if farmers don't already
have it hard enough, right.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Yeah, guys, I'm wondering if that post that is referring
to this number and then saying it was a Black
Mirror episode. It seemed the only thing I'm seeing on it, guys,
is an TikTok and Instagram post. I think it might
be saying like using the phrase on today's episode of
(59:28):
Black Mirror as a phrase that you know as like,
hey dystopic, Yes exactly, I think, But I think you're right.
Speaker 4 (59:36):
I think you're right because I was looking I couldn't
find a specific Black Mirror episode, so they're they're just saying, Rebel,
you could agree with us here that we are living
in a series of escalating Black Mirror episodes.
Speaker 3 (59:50):
That is true. Let us know, folks, if you.
Speaker 4 (59:54):
Have if you have had any run ins with Monsanto
or Bear as they prefer to be called. We'd also
love to hear about your response to conscription and the
idea of mandatory service for your community, whether military or not.
Don't pet Jimothy if you see them, tell us your
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well aware, yet I'm afraid sometimes the void writes back back,
back back. Is a great way to contact us, folks,
because you can send us links. We can send you links.
We can trade random facts. We can send pictures that
make Dylan's day or evening as it were. Take us
to the edge of the rabbit hole and we will
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