March 23, 2026 • 62 mins
In this week's Strange News segment, Ben, Matt and Noel explore the following: As the Iran conflict ramps up, a mysterious numbers station begins transmitting ominous codes in Farsi -- raising speculation about a possible conspiracy afoot. Legendary MC Afroman wins a bizarre court case in the wake of a raid on his Ohio home.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
My name is Matt, my name is Noah.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
They call me Ben, and you can too. We're joined
as always with our super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan.
Most importantly, you are you. You are here. That makes
this the stuff they don't want you to know. If
you are tuning into our Strange News segment the day
it publishes, Welcome to March twenty third, twenty twenty six.
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We were talking about this a little bit off air.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
This year is going by quickly. You know, it's still
twenty twenty six, but we're already planning stuff for twenty
twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
In twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Don't like that one if we make it. Yeah, there's
some stuff for bruin.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, in twenty thirty. We've got a whole project about it. Yeah,
check in on that one thing. One thing that we
had to mention an update to earlier Strange News and
also an update to a full episode. We did another
Strava leak has occurred. An officer on a French aircraft
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carrier appears to have accidentally revealed a lot about the
carrier because the poor officer used Strava, the fitness app,
on their run.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, it's very funny to look at the map, and
we recommend you check that out to see the back
and forth movements across the ship. As you watch this
Strava heat map. It's not the heat map, it's just
one person's map.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Why is he doing that? Is he just trying to
get extra steps in? Like well, it's gamified.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
He's trying to let other Strava users know, Hey, look
at me, get my steps in, get my run in.
And then other bad faith actors saw that and said, oh,
look at this aircraft carrier. Oh this is how this
aircraft carriers mapped.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Oh he traced it like they mapped it like a roomba.
I got it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Basically, how is this guy running that distance in the
middle of the ocean, and then he appears to be
moving along the ocean.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And then all of a sudden you've got the exact
position and the locations of the like edges, and you
basically can create a reproduction of that environment if you
were diligent enough.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I do love the idea, though, folks, of someone looking
at that data and saying, Wow, this guy is really
good at running. He's just in the ocean, moving at
speeds people cannot achieve. I have just found the flash
on Strava.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Traveling without moving. He's like a MALADIEB type figure.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I guess he's traveling than.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Don't forget?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Forget how could we ever? Was inescapable?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Jamiroqua is very important, mission critical, actually a mission critical
figure in uh, the secret religion that tennessee and I
have no further questions.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Crazy story. Not the guy whole band, We have a
whole we have a book. His name was JK.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
His name is JK. Yeah, Simmons, different different, different.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Secret religions aside, and we've got more on that on
the way. Uh, there's so much more to get to.
We have a missing major general. We have been following
the news of afro Man and of course many other
geopolitical developments like I'm putting AFROMN in with that one.
We're gonna pause for a word from our sponsors, and
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then we're going to update you with some news we
got from our dear friend of the show, Gandhi, and
we have returned. We were talking about this off air.
We just learned this thanks to our pal, co host
of the Elvis Durant Show, also the creator of the
(04:26):
hit podcast Sauce on the Side. Full disclosure, some of
us went and hung out with Gandhi on her show
Sauce on the Side, and just as we were going
in to record today on Friday, March twentieth, Gandhi guys
hit me up with some news that I wasn't aware of,
and I think all of us just learned about it.
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Something spooky is afoot.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, there's there are news alerts floating around right now
that are saying Silverstein Properties, which is owned run by
Larry Silverstein, who you may remember from his ownership of
the Twin Towers in New York City in and around
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the time that they got struck by planes and destroyed.
The news is that Silverstein Properties just purchased a building
in Los Angeles, right.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, that is correct. Larry A. Silverstein is an American
businessman billionaire who is already a name well known to
people who followed conspiracy theories about the attacks on New
York on September eleventh, two thousand and one. He has
recently acquired a Los Angeles skyscraper. It is the US
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Bank Tower. And because of the way things occurred when
he originally took over the World Trade Center just before
the events of September eleventh, now the Internet conspiracy forums
are reinvigorated. People are right now certain that Larry Silverstein's
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purchase of the US Bank Tower is a signal amid
the noise, and that there may be an attack on
that Bank tower. I'm not sure what to.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Make of it, well, the implication being that nine to
eleven was a false flag attack in order to achieve
certain geopolitical goals. The implication this is that as well,
there's already a lot of talk in the wind with
Iran that we might be looking at something like that
to make a good case for furthering that conflict and
encroaching harder.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And a Ron got in front of that, by the way,
and said that any attacks that happen on the West
coast of the United States are going to be false flags. Yes,
they're not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
The weirdness with Silverstein properties in the World Trade Center.
If I'm remembering correctly, had a lot to do with
the insurance policies on the buildings and all of the
World Trade Center buildings that were owned there by Silverstein properties.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Was there weird timing with that or something, Yeah, very much.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So he used to well, he said this multiple interviews.
He would go to the top of the World Trade
Center North Tower pretty much every day in his normal
work week, and that's where he would have breakfast now
breakfast meetings. But on the morning of September eleventh, again
in two thousand and one, his wife insisted that he
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go to a medical appointment, go see a doctor, and
so he canceled his breakfast meetings, and therefore he was
not present at the World Trade Center when the attacks occurred.
The insurance thing to your question there, it's really interesting
because the policies together all the World Trade Center buildings,
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or not all of them, it was building one to
four and five collectively. That insurance policy was for three
point five to five billion. But Silverstein did something interesting
in the wake of the attacks. He sought double that
amount that insurance guaranteed. He saw something like all over
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seven billion, seven point one billion, and his reasoning was
that two separate airplane strikes into two separate buildings meant
there were two occurrences of what the policy needed to
pay out.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, he's not.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
He wouldn't be wrong, right, he wouldn't be wrong. I
was gonna say that it seems like a savdy argument
to make to get you. You know, you're the biggest
possible payout, which we know guys like that are great
at doing.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And it's super murky too because these are old buildings
built in sixty eight and sixty nine, that's in the
nineteen hundreds, and they you know, they had all kinds
of construction issues that needed to be addressed. There there's
a ton you can look. It's a deep rabbit hole,
is all I'm saying. The reality though, of this brand
new news story coming out about Silverstein Properties buying this
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property at six thirty three West Fifth Street in Los
Angeles isn't exactly true. There was a there was a
news blurb that went out about, well it was on
the Silverstein Property's website about a new lease in that building.
In actuality, they purchased the building in twenty twenty, right,
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So it isn't as though this is something that just
occurred as oh, now there's an opportunity, right for this
other type of thing. If you're if we're following along
the conspiracy theory, we just have to put that out there.
They still own the building.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
My question too, would be, and I've seen this chatter
as well around this question of false flag attacks, why
wouldn't they have done that before the bombing, Right, that's
a good question, would have made a better case for
what is clearly a very unpopular move right. And I
want to clarify some of the news we're giving here.
(10:00):
This was so buying a building of this size or
a deal of this magnitude often takes a while. It's
not an afternoon handshakee. So what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
The reason it's back in the news is the acquisition
has been finalized at this point. The deal was completed
amid the twenty twenty six ongoing conflict in Iran, and
that's why people are speculating so hard about it. To
be clear, there is no at this point concrete evidence
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of concrete property jokes. There is no concrete evidence at
this point that could be used to function as a
smoking gun the conspiracy. Put plainly, the conspiracy theory is
that these forces headed by or faced by Silverstein are
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acquiring buildings to participate in some kind of inside job.
And again there is is absolutely nothing in the way
of proof of that other than the tea leaves people
read about his involvement in the properties that were destroyed
during September eleventh.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Where do we land on September eleventh as an inside job?
It's not something that comes up a lot, and certainly
probably a little bit of a taboo subject. I'm suss
about it still, I think, but given how much more
fed up things are in terms of geopolitics, in terms
of this particular administration, if the past administration was capable
of doing something like this, I'm certain that the current
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one would do something even wilder. I don't know, what
do you guys think about the nine to eleven conspiracies?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
What do I think? Personally? Nola, that might be you
know what, Let's hang, let's go to the chicken spot
after the court, I.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Would just say, check out architects and engineers for nine
to eleven truth and just see what you think.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, speak with the experts. We went to a lot
of primary sources on that. And to be completely clear, folks,
our individual our individual perspectives on this may differ from
entity to entity. I do think that a lot of
our fellow American our fellow Americans still have some very
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serious and very valid questions about the attacks of nine
to eleven, And it makes sense that these would recur
in the zeitgeist because people are rightly terrified and concerned
about the possibility of another attack on domestic soil, given
the multiple conflicts occurring around the world right now, in
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which the US is playing a pivotal role.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
In the dismantling of the intelligence apparatus that's supposed to
prevent those attacks.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Did you see joking with the Japanese envoy about how
y'all are good at surprises, right, pearl?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Oh yeah, pearl harbor anybody, why did you tell He said,
why didn't you tell me about that? I was like,
because you weren't in there, dude.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Any crap, Holy cow, Yes, he's got he's got jokes,
ladies in gentle.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Then Japan rolls innat twenty on diplomacy and those kind
of conversations. There was some There was some line that
the PM gave of Japan where she said, I believe you,
Donald Trump are the only the only person who can
ensure peace and stability something like that. So it sounds
(13:22):
very complimentary unless you unpack it and sort of unwrap
what they're saying there, which is saying you could interpret
it as saying, please stop messing up. Yeah, dude, you're
the only one who can stop you from messing up
so constantly. Again, huge credit to our pal Meta Gandhi
(13:44):
for not just making an awesome show, but for hipping
us to this and other stories. Guys, before we and
this part of our weekly strange news program, I would
like to play a clip and let's see what we
can guess. Let's see if we can guess what this
clip is. Sound like a game.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I love games.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I got kicked out of kindergarten for that play because
I don't play.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yeah, no, h no, okay day Hi.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Sounds like a sample you'd hear before an AFX Twins
song I want Can you send that to me? Speaking
of sampling, I would miss around with that. What are
we hearing? Ben? I I thought I heard someone calling
my name. This is what is going on.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
A lot of people hear a lot of things, right.
This is V thirty two shout out for all our
long time conspiracy realists. This is a numbers station. Please
check out our earlier episodes from years back on numbers
stations continually fascinating. This one is not accurate in Russian,
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it's not occurring in English. This is a Farsi numbers
station and it began broadcasting. At least as far as
we know, this rash of broadcast began shortly after the
death of the Iradian leader, the Ayatola, when you know
the US and Israeli military began their overt actions against
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the nation of Iran. This very strange stuff because I
think one of the most disquieting things we all learned
about numbers stations in our investigation all those years ago
is that they're still very active. They're still happening. You
can hear, as we said that clip, you can hear
guy's voice what appears to be a guy's voice speaking
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Farsi or Persian, counting out a series of apparently random
numbers read out for various stretches of time, and then
followed by a pause in which they repeat the word tavajo,
which translates to attention three times, so attention, attention, attention,
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several random numbers, attention, attention, attention several random numbers. This
sounds like a one time codepad to me.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, they're read so slowly that in my mind I
imagine someone with a pen, you know, and a pad
of paper writing down those numbers that are read out
allowed on purpose, right, so that somebody can clearly get
those numbers down.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
And this also gets a little more tricky, folks, because
initially when this number station went hot again, it was
jammed on its starting frequency. If we go to people
like a Kin Fernandez who is getting quoted in Radio
Free Europe Radio Liberty, we'll get to them as a
(16:54):
source in a second. Then we'll see that again is
saying someone doesn't want the recipient of this signal to
hear those numbers, whatever they are.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
If you want another little slice of this kind of discussion,
we talked about number stations a bit in our Conspiracy
of Sound live episode that we did with Justin Richmond
at National Sawdask, which you can find in the audio feed.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
And the concept here of number stations, I mean, it's
very much Cold War era mythology and lore, but the
concept is that you can use very basic technology to
bypass your rivals or your outright enemies. In other intelligence operations,
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you can use a random series of numbers, and you
can therefore send a coded message to another person, and
that person has what we call a one time pad,
the real life version of a Christmas Story's decoder ring. Right,
So what are they saying? We don't know unless we
get the pad, but we know good in gosh darn well,
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that's not a secret message saying drink more ovalty.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Do we know how many numbers are in the sequence
that was being broadcast?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
We know a little bit. I almost want to save
this for an episode here. We know that the code
seems to be consistent, like it's not. It's not as
though it's pie. They are saying the same pattern repeatedly,
or seven series of patterns.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
And these are of course pre recorded and played on
a loop.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
We know that they are being It seems that there
is being a loop transmission in some cases, But we
don't know. If someone's hopping on the mic live like
in college radio, I highly doubt that. I think it
is prerecorded, Like, uh, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Mad Dog? In Fallout? What's the think? What's the radio
DJ guy's name?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Oh, you know I'm talking about moondog. Anyway, if you
want another little glimpse into this kind of covert stuff
throughout history, Ben and I did a really cool discussion
about coded messages and knitting using binary code and hidden
in stitches in in you know, knitting and fabric and
things like that using ones and zeros and or dots
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and dashes.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, knitting as espionage. And I think I mentioned you
Nolan too, our palell Max Williams off air that I
have personal reason to believe fabric as a spy tool
is still very much in play.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So uh, fabric is a conspiracy?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, first glitter, now fabric, what's next. I would love cheese.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I would love cheese as conspiracy. Don't trust a manger
of any sort, whether it's cheese, fear.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Or monger, always seems so agro to me. Like a
fishmonger makes me think of fear or war, you know,
and cheese. There must be a better way to describe
the purveyors of those delights.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
It makes me think of discworld. For some reason, I
think there were fishmongers in that. I don't know why,
but that's what pinged in my brain.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
There are fishmongers everywhere, and without saying too much. There
are credible concerns in the United States, at least in
recent decades that paused them to treat I kid you
not rug expositions and carpet expositions with a high level
of scrutiny, Like what better excuse to be traveling from
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Istanbul or Tehran?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
And now I'm in DC. But don't worry, I'm just
selling rugs like oh can I buy a rug?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
No, for you, this one's very expensive because you're not
the customer. We're selling this information to.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Paranoia is fun. That's when you mentioned those guys just
trying to figure out where's it going from next?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I mean, and also, can you imagine I want to
spend a moment of empathy here all the people who
are just legitimately trying to sell scarves and tapestries or
rugs or what have you. You know, why are they
getting jammed up? But this is what we have to establish, folks.
The number stations are a real conspiracy, not a conspiracy theory.
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It's happening now. We're gonna have more on the Farsi
number stations soon. I hope in a future episode of
Maybe Time to revisit those as some of the old
Cold War mechanisms are spinning back up. But for now,
we're gonna leave it with you there for this part
of the weekly segment. We can't wait to hear your thoughts,
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especially if you were broadcasting on a number station either
Farsi or Russian language. Just hit us up conspiracydiheartradio dot com.
We're gonna pause for nothing big. Just tell us all
your secrets. We're gonna pause for a word from our sponsors,
and we'll be back with more strange news.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
And we're back.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Y'all.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
All heroes don't wear a cape. Some of them wear
loud shirts with American flag prints and matching sunglasses. In
court and YouTube videos, you're talking about Afroman, y'all.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I was gonna say, you got a narrow that one down.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Oh man, we love I love this guy. I think
he's not as my pals, not my direct pals. I
don't know them personally, but some YouTubers I enjoy on
Internet Today pointed out he's had a bit of a
checkered pass and the dude's not perfect, but in this
particular situation in court case, he is a beacon of
a freedom of speech and liberty at a time where
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we desperately need just that thing. Y'all will probably recall
a previous strange news where we talked about police in
Ohio raiding the home of the music artists known professionally
as Afroman. His real name is Joseph Foreman. Yeah, if
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you do a little anagrammy type action, you can make
afro Man out of that last name. Some police raided
his home under it would appear misinformation regarding his participation
in kidnapping, some form of human trafficking, and significant drug trafficking.
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He kicked down his door. They entered, you know, with guns,
not a blazing but aloft you know, fingers trained on
the triggers and all of that good stuff. Mister mister
Man was not home at the time, and his security
cameras caught the whole thing. Several law enforcement agents you know,
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did the whole what they call it tossing of his
home looking for stuff, and they didn't find anything except
a small amount of marijuana as well as a nominal
sum of cash. It was in the handful of thousands
of dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
This is also, by the way, the guy who is
perhaps best known for the Banker song Because I got high.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's right, because I got high? Was that in a movie?
What was that? What was was that featured?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I think it was.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
It wasn't like Half Baked it was. It was definitely
had a moment, it had a movement.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
It was before nine to eleven.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It was pervasive.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I would say, it really was. And it's funny though,
because he's not like mega mega mega famous. That song
is pretty old. And I remember even after that, the
moment that was because I got high. He performed at
a very small venue in my hometown called the Soul Bar,
which is maybe holds two hundred people max. And it
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wasn't even like a massive sellout. It was awesome. And
he does things like play a double neck guitar. He
wears all these awesome costumes. He's very George Clinton coded.
A lot of his music isn't just straight up hip hop.
It is funk. It is kind of afro futurists, sort
of psychedelic freak out music. Really big fan of this
guy's vibe. Super super cool. So what happened was mister
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Foreman took this footage of these cops tossing his home,
one of them eyeing a piece of pound cake on
his counter under glass like a hungry dog in a
cartoon looking at a steak, or like you know, one
of those cartoon characters that gets stuck on a desert
island and imagines everybody as a piece of chicken or
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something like that. It's pretty great, and then proceeded to
use this footage in music videos promoting his brand and
the songs music videos of songs that he wrote about
each one of these cops, naming them by name, and
she's showing them being total clowns, you know, in his house,
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overreach all of it.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Can you can you give you some of the titles, Well.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
One of them was Lemon pound Cake, of course, up
under the boardwalk, right, that's right, Ben. Others with titles
like the police Raid, another one referring to a female
police officer who was president at the scene who appears
to have disconnected one of his cameras. The song referencing her,
in addition to another one we'll get into in a minute,
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was called why you disconnecting my video camera?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Why?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And then another the classic will you help me repair
my door?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's the one because.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
It was like twenty grand of damage.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Right, one hundred? He also made another song about the woman.
I'm not going to name their names. I don't want
them to sue me for defamation, because that's what happened.
By the way, we'll get to that in a minute.
Another song accusing her of uh participating in copious kind
of lingual activities with other ladies.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh jeez.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Other accusations or again we'll get into the whole idea
of worth these accusations. Or are these things so absurd
that no reasonable person could have interpreted them as being
depictions of fact, you know, talking about doggie style and
one of the dude's wives, things like that. Again, the
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police officers banded together, they pooled their resources and I
imagine with the support of the police department there in
what city was this guys, Ohio, Adams County, Adams County, Ohio.
Again imagining that they had the assistance to some degree
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of the police department, that somebody thought this was a
good idea for them to sue this man for defamation,
citing irreparable pain and suffering, you know, accusations again of
one of their wives having cheated on the officer with
mister Foreman, things like that, And so I guess in Ohio.
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They put all these court cases on the stream because boy,
oh boy, there is footage. There is footage, and whoever's
running that court camera needs to seek a career in cinematography.
Because there is one shot in particular where it's the
woman that I had mentioned earlier, and they play mister
Foreman's lawyer. I don't know if this is just like
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an evidence thing where if it's like an exhibit, you
have to watch the whole thing. I certainly know in
murder cases, if there is video or audio, no matter
how horrific it might be, it has to be played
in its entirety in order to be introduced as an exit.
Maybe I'm overstating the case on that one, but I
have seen other examples of this, so maybe that's part
of the law. Maybe it was just by request of
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mister Foreman's lawyer. But they're playing the video that I
talked about a minute ago where this dude is accusing
this woman of eating lots of Give me a bleep there,
if you can, I think we know we're talking about here.
He is just in tears, head in hand while this
goofy funk song is playing in the background with mister
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Foreman just just bopping in the video, wearing is wearing
wear in a wacky outfit. All the while he's sitting
on the stand bopping too his own song, and the
camera just pans slowly over from this woman in tears
to mister Foreman just staring dackers into her, but in
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the coolest possible way, y'all, not angry, unbothered, moisturized, and
bopping to his own song. Not to mention that they
play the full social media tags before and after each
one of these clips. So not only were these officers
clearly barking up the wrong tree in terms of seeking
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reparations or seeking compensation rather for this, you know, perceived defamation,
they're just getting punked over and over again in this
footage because they're playing the clips and you're having to
see the officers react to them. There's one exchange where
Foreman's lawyer asks one of the officers in question here,
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who want the song about him? I believe this was
Lemon pound Cake officer pound Cake if it was in
any way misrepresenting him. For mister Foreman Afroman to say
that he had had intercourse with this man's wife, and
at a certain point the guy just starts saying, well,
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the lawyer says, but this is obviously not true. He's like, well,
I don't know, he said, I don't know. It's out there,
and you start to see the guy unraveling before your
very eyes, Like you start to see him start to
call into question where maybe it was possible that his
wife did have intercourse with mister Foreman, and you just
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you just see it's it's what you call a self
own that's what you call being foisted on your own petard.
It's just wild stuff, guys. It's like something that would
be in Tim and Eric. I don't know how. I
don't know how to describe it.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I think that's a great description. I also want to
shout you out, mister Foreman Afferman, if you're listening. Uh,
you said something that we are huge fans of when
you were on the stand. I have freedom of speech.
I'm a rapper, I entertain and it's very There's more
to it, of course, but uh, is that not an
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electric point right there? He's said, I am entertained. And
I gotta tell you, if you were in that courtroom
and you're watching those clips, you would probably not to
yourself and think got entertained.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Entertained?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Are you not entertained?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
He goes off in a slightly different direction, Ben after
that very apropos quote that you just dropped there, And
I think this to me sums up the whole thing
because spoiler alert, y'all, he got off, he won, He
won all in baby, Yeah, And I think he probably
has the right to counter sue now, I bet.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
You know what, because he's got the ACLU on his
side as well. He has some pretty powerful forces. And Noel,
even if he doesn't counter sue, at the risk of
sounding like a cold executive producer or C suite guy,
this is phenomenal for his career and for pr no.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Like I said, these clips that are going around from
the courtroom have all of his social tags. At the
beginning and end of every single one, he knew exactly
what he was doing. And this is the quote that
I was going to introduce, and then'll wrap the section up.
I got the right to kick a can in my backyard,
use my freedom of speech, turn my bad times into
a good time. Yes, I do. And I think I'm
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a sport for doing so. Because I don't go to
their house kick down their doors flip them off on
their surveillance cameras, then try to play the victim and
sue them.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Can we talk about how incredibly tasty lemon pound cake is.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It's wonderful and apparently this was his mama's lemon pound cake.
So you tailors and you know, and the guy. To
be fair, lest we defame these officers any further, the
man didn't take a slice. He just eyed it hungrily.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
It was something in the eyes. Also, yeah, I mistakenly
thought he maybe took a slice, so that would have
been a bridge too far.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
There's also this whole deal about the money they took
it coming back to him four hundred dollars short.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, they were four hundred light at least that's what
he said. And also the the thing about looking at
the powdcake tov is one of the uh, one of
the funniest parts of one of the funniest little twist
in the story, because if I remember correctly, and I
only learned about this when my girlfriend was immediately giving
me breaking updates, the issue is that the law enforcement
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would likely say, well, we wondered if it was lemon
cake containing cannabis or something like that. Maybe that's how
they'll explain that thirsty stare. But you guys, watch it
and you tell us what you think that's the priority
that law enforcement should be chasing. At this point, I'm
(34:30):
just going to read the closing statement from his lawyer
here Osborne was the name of.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
The rapper's lawyer or the artist's lawyer. He says, what
does this message send if we find that music and
social commentary, while maybe not the most tasteful thing in
the world, is silence because a public official was hurt
by it, And the answer then becomes, we don't want that.
And this is a quintessential free speech case that I
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think has has implications that while we're just being entertained,
like you said, Ben right now and having a good
time with this because it's just so meme worthy and
there's just nothing like seeing folks that are clearly in
the wrong just getting there butts handed to them in
this way, especially in a time where we're just seeing
so much injustice, I understand why this story is going
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so viral and getting so widely reported on. This is
the kind of good news story that we need in
a time where we are just seemingly overtaken by villains.
You know, I don't mean to put too fine a
point on it or make it bigger than it is,
but I think that there's going to be something to
This is going to be looked at by legal scholars
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down the line, you know, an important as an important case.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I hope so, and I hope every time they look
at it when they're for anybody who's getting their law degree.
I hope your professor plays the videos in full and.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
We also hope your professor brings in several giant lemon
pound cakes for you to eat while you peruse the case.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Enough for the class, That's what I'm saying. Well, and
to that point, y'all. The lemon pound cake video currently
has three point eight million views on YouTube. Pretty cool,
thank you, and one of the top comments, as NPR reports,
is shout out to the cops for making sure I
saw this absolute bop. That one has more than eight
thousand likes, And as we know, this is a very
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classic example of something we often talk about here on
the podcast, the strissand effect. If you want people to
stop talking about this kind of thing and stop punking
you and get on with your life, don't sue them
in a clearly spurloss case that is gonna be videoed
and preserved, especially when the guy he gave him so
(36:46):
much more footage, y'all, He's gonna make so many more
videos with this courtroom footage.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I don't think they know how battle rap works.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
I don't think they do. They. Yeah, man, you don't
bring a gun to a battle rap. You got to
bring bars. People have. Yeah, Well that's true, man, but
it's not. It's not. It's not it's not in the
spirit of the game.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
It's not the spirit of the game. But this very
much is. Uh, thank you so much for bringing us
this story. I feel like it's fair to say we're
all pro Afro man, but I got to check with Dylan. Dylan,
do you have a strong pro or anti afroman stance.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I really love his fashion sense, I gotta say that
for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Funny of that the outfitty war to court is what
the same outfitty war in one of the videos. So
he is like on a branding play and I'm here
for it. That's all I got, y'all. I decided to
I thought that I just wanted some good news, some
fun news, some strange news. Let's take a quick break
here a word from our sponsor, and then we'll come
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Speaker 2 (37:45):
Episode, and we are back with the bad news.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Every you an't spoil sport you.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
We're jumping over to KOB Channel four in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
In the story written on March sixteenth, twenty twenty six,
the Berna Leo County Sheriff's Office search for missing retired
Air Force general expands. That is Berna Leo b R
N A l I LLLO. This is in New Mexico,
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and they held a press conference on Monday, March sixteenth
to update the public on the ongoing search for a
retired US Air Force major general named William McCasland. We're
going to learn a lot about mister McCasland throughout this segment,
but let's kind of piecemeal some of the facts here
so we can get a big picture. The Sheriff's office
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says they have not ruled out whether he is alive,
he is dead, or whether foul play may be involved.
Either way, they do know a few things. On Friday,
February twenty seventh, there was a repair man who was
at one of the homes owned by the mccastleans. This
person was the last one to interact with McCaslin at
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his residence around ten am. Again, on a Friday morning,
at around eleven ten am, Susan mccaslan Wilkerson, this is
the general's wife left the house for a medical appointment.
That's about an hour later. And then another hour later
at twelve four pm, mccaslen's wife returned home and her
husband was not there. However, his phone was there, his
(39:33):
prescription glasses were there, and his smart watch was there. Now, guys,
anytime you're going to leave the house, we've talked about
it before. Leaving your phone, your primary smartphone at home
is one of those things that you just don't do,
at least you don't do it purposefully. Sure, unless of
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course you've like put it in the microwave, you know,
for one reason or another because you've got some shady
stuff to do, or some secretive stuff that you don't
want anyone to know about.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Broke the SIM card. But either way, you know, it's
it's strange because when we're investigating stuff like this, generally
not major general, we what we tend to lean toward
is something going wrong, because if people are trying to
leave behind that kind of stuff. They're usually if they're
trying to commit suido side or they're trying to get
off the grid, they're usually going to either take that
(40:27):
stuff with them or take it to a location where
they feel it is safe to dispose of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Correct, unless there's something else going on here, right, because
there were some items, some key items that appear to
have been taken by General McCaslin when he left the
house on foot his wallet, a red backpack, and a
thirty eight caliber revolver and it's holster, which is like, hmm,
(40:54):
maybe there's some business to be done here, if that's
what that reads to me. And last little piece of
information here, investigators early on when he went missing. Remember
we're talking about the end of February here, and we're
recording this on Friday, March twentieth, So he is still
missing right now. He's been gone for a while. But initially,
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early on, investigators released a photo of mccaslan in a
light green, long sleeved button up shirt that they said
he may have been wearing at the time of his disappearance.
Here's where it gets weird, you guys. This is happening
in Albuquerque, New Mexico, at one of the homes that
the mccastleans own. Okay, the sheriff's office said they can
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used around seven hundred homes in and around this area
near Quail Run Court in Albuquerque. They've also searched another
one of mccaslein's homes. This is a general you guys,
he owns multiple homes.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
This home is in Pagosa Springs, Colorado. And here's what
they found in the Pagosa Springs, Colorado home. A light green,
long sleeve button up shirt and some hiking boots. Here's
why that's really crazy to me. And tell me what
you guys think. If that is in fact the outfit
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he was wearing when he disappeared from the New Mexico
home and then it appears in the Pagosa Springs home,
it means he somehow traveled over two hundred miles either
by foot by bike he was an avid biker by car,
and it also means he would have traveled over three
and a half hours if the entire trip was by car.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I mean, this is go bag type stuff, right, This
is like on the lamb type.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Stuff, doesn't it seem that way, and I don't want
to push traversing rough terrain.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
He's like wearing the boots like he's doing the thing.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
And do we know the contents of the red backpack
at this point.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
We do not. We do not just rope grappling hooks, imagine.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
But there's so many scenarios that we could look into, right, right,
He likely was in a vehicle to travel that two
hundred two hundred fifteen miles. That's just likelihood because people
were searching for him. And if he's on foot, that
would have taken days, like days to travel that far.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
So like, yeah, I agree, I would agree with the
expert's conjecture. There is likely likely using a vehicle if
he made it to that secondary location, and probably not
aircraft just a little bit too easy to trace.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Well, yeah, because there's an active search for him almost immediately.
He had about an hour before anyone knew he was gone.
You know, if he's doing this kind of thing, I
think it's more likely that he had a vehicle stashed
that probably a lot of people didn't know about, maybe
even his wife didn't know about. And then there was
probably something very important at the Pagosa Springs house, the
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one in Colorado that he needed to collect, because I
mean that's again that is complete speculation. All of this
is speculation, traveling by car all that stuff. This is
just from reading the articles that have come out so
far and the knowledge that mcasslein is an avid outdoorsman.
According to all the reporting, a lot of the searching
has been done in the surrounding wilderness areas. There's a
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lot of great places to hike and where there are
not a lot of people around that both of the
homes actually that he owns, and actually the Sheriff's department
is asking anyone in the San Diez there's a mountains
area to come forward if they find anything unusual, particularly
thirty eight caliber shell casings, just to see if there's
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anything there. One of the weirdest things that happened when
Macastle went missing initially is there was a silver alert
put out there. This is a man who is sixty
eight years old, and a silver alert basically is there
is someone who is considered older who may be dealing
Usually a silver silver alert means there's mental issues potentially
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may be memory, maybe dementia, maybe alzheimer or something like
that associated with a silver alert, But a silver alert
doesn't mean that it's just usually associated with that. But
I thought it was fascinating that one got released almost immediately,
which made people question mccaslin's mental state, right if he
encountered him, which to me feels purposeful, as in, you know,
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let's make everyone think this guy's out of his mind, right,
so then even if law enforcement officials encounter him, they
may approach him differently than just as a general. However,
mcaslyn's wife has come forward several times in the news
since he went missing to say no, he was not disoriented,
he was not confused. He was complaining of mental fog
(45:45):
a few months before the disappearance. But mental fog, as
we know, can be associated with all kinds of different things,
including long COVID right. We know, it can be associated
with all kinds of situations that are not actually dealing
with a full mental health emergency, let's say, or a
long term thing like dementia or Alzheimer's. And the reason
(46:09):
why we're bringing this to you it's interesting, first of all,
I think, but there's a quote here from the Sheriff's
department that we wanted to read here he goes, this
is Sheriff Allen there of the Bernolio Sheriff's Department. Let
me be straight. We've had a lot of tips, and
we go through all the tips, but there are some
tips with some outlandish theories, some conspiracy theories. We look
(46:33):
into everything, but we're trying as a law enforcement agency
and entity to look at the facts and make sure
we can retrace before mister mccaslan went missing. Some of
the tips coming in. I don't want to say they're
wasting our time, because we would never say that, but
they are tedious to go through because there are a
ton of conspiracy theories being generated about this man going
(46:55):
missing because of who he is and what he was
getting into. And that's what we have to do now,
really quickly, and it's we might need to do a
whole episode on General mccaslan. Guys, if that's okay. There's
so many details to his life and the special programs
that this man has touched agreed. According to the United
(47:18):
States Air Forces official website af dot Mill, he was
the former commander of the Air Force Research Laboratory at
Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, also known as
Right pat He was responsible for managing the Air Force's
two point two billion dollars Science and Technology arm Science
and Technology of the Air Force. Guys. Anyone remember a
(47:42):
little thing called the Legacy program. Let's continue here. He
served a wide variety of space research, acquisition and operations
roles within the Air Force and the National Reconnaissance Office
the NRO. We've talked before about the importance of the
NRO and about signal intelligence and all kinds of other
things that they get into. Here's the one of the
(48:04):
big ones. He commanded the Phillips Site of Air Force
Research Laboratory at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico.
The Phillip Site, guys, includes the Space Vehicles Directorate and
the Directed Energy Directorate of the Air Force Research Laboratory.
Let me say that again, the Directed Energy Directorate. What
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is directed energy? That we just talked about. Lasers are
directed energy and also.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
The sound wave or whatever, the discombobulator of the microwaves.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yes, the microwaves. That's a little weird. It's a little weird.
He was Vice commander of the Ogden Air Logistics Center
in the Space and Missile Systems Center. He served at
the Pentagon as the director of Space Acquisition. This dude
is a huge deal and knows some stuff. We're not
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talking about just top secret stuff. We are talking about
the super secret thing beyond top secret stuff.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
We're talking about compartmentalized information because.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yes, because he had all that under his belt, right,
but he also served uh for the the Office of
the Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics as
the director of special Programs. Right, special programs. These are
the special access things that literally nobody gets to know about.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
Things the president would not normally know about unless some
political juice have been poured or.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Expen what our show is named after.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
This is the stuff they don't want you to know,
friends and neighbors. And I think we've all been following
the Mcastle and story pretty closely right now, though to
be clear, a.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Lot of people don't even know about this at all.
It's not getting certainly nothing to me.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Maybe I'm bubbled. Just to finish this right now, to
be clear, Matt, can you verify for us that law
enforcement made no statements about suspecting homicide. They're just treating
it as a missing persons at this point, right.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
They are, But they're certainly not ruling out foul play.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
Say it definitely is, dude, Is that not? I don't
mean to Guys like that are slippery there. If you
want to get out, there are ways to get out.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
So you think he disappeared himself.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
I think he uh.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I think he was trying to and he got caught
up with I.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
Think both are possible. We don't have enough information at
this point, but we do have to Matt's earlier points there.
We have some troubling precedents, we have some interesting timing
or alignment of events, and then we have other other
stories that got re explored in the wake of this news.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. One last thing, just on some
of the previous reporting here. The Albuquerque Journal and a
bunch of other places reported around March twelfth about some
statements that mccaslen's wife made on social media, which is
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the language is very particular. Let's say, and then let's
just let's just read a quote from this because McCaslin
was involved with Tom DeLong, and this is a guy
with all this kind of information in charge special access programs.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Tom gets in from music right, Yes, well, well a
huge disclosure guy. Oh that guy. Yeah, I forgot his
second life, second career. He went from music to disclosure
to back to music.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah, he was involved with the to the Stars Academy,
slash organization, whatever it is. He was kind of a
specialist who knew some things right, so he consulted with
them a lot. So his wife is talking about that.
I'm just going to read this quote. She responds to
questions about you know, him and his association with UFOs
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U a P in particular in those communities, as well
as the secrets that lie there. His wife says, m mmm,
this connection is not a reason for someone to abduct Neil.
Listen to this language. Neil does not have any special
knowledge about the e T bodies and debris from the
Roswell crash stored at right Pat, just as a statement.
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He does not have any special knowledge about the ets
and bodies and debris from the Roswell crash that are
stored at right pat.
Speaker 4 (52:40):
As.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Is that what we're talking about?
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Extraterrestrials? But she just says it. She just says it
as he doesn't have any special knowledge about the stuff
that's there.
Speaker 7 (52:50):
That is heard someone saying that's crazy, My my, I
gave me chills.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Well, it's just one of those weird things, and it's
it's I'm taking it out of context a little bit.
You read the rest of it about you know, joking
about him being beamed up to a mother ship, because
I mean, she makes a joke about that.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
So maybe her sayings could be tongue in cheek as well.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
It could be, and it may be that, to be clear, folks,
it may be that she's responding directly to some conspiratorial
speculation that irritated her, that she just saw, or maybe
somebody reached out to her.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Like the way the grass used to talk about green
little green men and.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
You know, like that kind of Yeah, it could be that,
or she should She could just be noting, Look, he
doesn't know about hot knowledge. That's just there. Beat me there,
Sorry about that, But yeah, there is one connection that well,
there are a bunch of connections being made obviously with
directed weapons, the Havana syndrome stuff, the discombobulator, a bunch
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of stuff about potential space weapons, a bunch of stuff
about the tential false flags. But there is one other
person that's being connected to mccaslin's story that I didn't
make it before we came into this episode, Ben, why
don't you tell us about that?
Speaker 4 (54:11):
Yes, this is something for anybody else who's been following
this story the way we have. This is something that
may put you a little bit closer to conspiratorial thought
or speculation. While the disappearance of Major General William Neil
mclasland has you know, has a lot of people rightly worried,
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it has also brought attention on another unexplained disappearance that
happened about two months earlier before the mclassland news broke.
This is the story of Monica Reza are easy A
disappeared while hiking. Her disappearance has been unresolved. Why are
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these related? Because she worked on government funded rocket material projects,
aerospace projects overseen directly by the missing major general. So
now people are saying, is it possible that these disappearances
could be connected. Let me amend that she disappeared nine
(55:16):
months ago. She was in a on a hike in
a Los Angeles area forest and apparently, just like McCaslin,
she has a long jacket of working and the kind
of stuff that we love on stuff they don't want
you to know, you guys, She even invented a special
metal that is used in rockets, and she did that
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while she was working for the general.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Well, he does like a girl with a short skirt
and a long jacket, and he is the very model
of a modern major general. I'm sorry, those were just
floating around in my head. I had to get him out.
I had to get him out. Carry on cake and
Rogers and Hammerstein.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
So apparently somebody saw her like moments before she disappeared.
She was behind them and she was waving, and then
they looked back and she was a ghost. So I
ask you, guys, is it I want to be very
fair here. We always I always try to be very
fair with these things. It's it's possible that these are
(56:16):
just coincidences, right, that these disappearances have nothing to do
with each other.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
It's possible, man, it is. It's possible.
Speaker 4 (56:24):
It's possible.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
We're not saying it's also probable that they're not.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Monica Reza's thing is really weird to me, just because
that person was only thirty thirty feet from her when
she disappeared, and there was a massive search through the
entire area that went on for weeks and weeks and
it's still ongoing, right, now because she has not been recovered,
very weird. If you're searching for Monica Reza, you will
(56:53):
find stories about her her going missing. If you if
you search for Monica Reza Jacinto J A. C. I
nt O, you will find h the information about her
and rocket dyne or aerojet rocket dyne and this stuff
called mond alloy, which was it's just this crazy revolutionary
(57:15):
nickel alloy that can be used for rockets, and she's
been developing it since the nineteen nineties and she's amazed.
Like her, her work is so important to the US
missile systems that exist and the future missile systems that
are currently being built and will be used. It is
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the connection there, I think makes a ton of sense.
I do wonder if there is I've seen some speculation
if you look at red in other places, maybe this
is a lover's kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
She disappears, then he disappears. Yeah, it's happened before in
the past. I mean also, oh to details you need
to know, folks. This person Resid is sixty years old
at the time of her disappearance. Her disappearance occurs on
June twenty second, twenty twenty five. We hadn't said that
specific yet, So if it was a if it was
(58:15):
a collaborative kind of Romeo and Juliet vanished together thing,
then that time window could still make sense.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
Right.
Speaker 4 (58:24):
Let me go and set up stuff first, and then
you'll meet me at the determined location after the heat
has died down. But again, no.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Proof or maybe has nothing to do with romance and
has something to do with a known project that is
underway or some other you know, they have intel and
knowledge about something that's coming. That's another big rumor. There's
all kinds of stuff that's out there. We recommend you
head over to Space News to an article written by
Deborah Werner on December twentieth, twenty seventeen. It's titled what
(58:56):
is mond Alloy and Why should You Care? It features
a giant picture of Monica Jacinto, who is also Monica Reza,
holding one of one of these alloys that she helped develop,
and you can just you can see her there and
how important this technology and this material is. Crazy stuff.
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Keep an eye out for General McCaslin. If you hear anything,
surely let us know. We'll be keeping our eyes and
ears to the ground and reappreciate your time, and that is.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
All, and that is the let's call it the end
of the beginning. We didn't get to the multiple waves
of drones that are being spotted over air force bases
as we record, but we would love to hear your
thoughts on AFROMAN. We'd love to hear your thoughts on
missing generals and scientists. Please be careful when you use Strava, folks,
(59:48):
just please be careful.
Speaker 6 (59:50):
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this the stuff they don't want you to know. If
you are tuning into our Strange News segment the day
it publishes, Welcome to March twenty third, twenty twenty six.
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We were talking about this a little bit off air.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
This year is going by quickly. You know, it's still
twenty twenty six, but we're already planning stuff for twenty
twenty seven.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
In twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Don't like that one if we make it. Yeah, there's
some stuff for bruin.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Yeah, in twenty thirty. We've got a whole project about it. Yeah,
check in on that one thing. One thing that we
had to mention an update to earlier Strange News and
also an update to a full episode. We did another
Strava leak has occurred. An officer on a French aircraft
(01:34):
carrier appears to have accidentally revealed a lot about the
carrier because the poor officer used Strava, the fitness app,
on their run.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah, it's very funny to look at the map, and
we recommend you check that out to see the back
and forth movements across the ship. As you watch this
Strava heat map. It's not the heat map, it's just
one person's map.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Why is he doing that? Is he just trying to
get extra steps in? Like well, it's gamified.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
He's trying to let other Strava users know, Hey, look
at me, get my steps in, get my run in.
And then other bad faith actors saw that and said, oh,
look at this aircraft carrier. Oh this is how this
aircraft carriers mapped.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Oh he traced it like they mapped it like a roomba.
I got it.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Basically, how is this guy running that distance in the
middle of the ocean, and then he appears to be
moving along the ocean.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And then all of a sudden you've got the exact
position and the locations of the like edges, and you
basically can create a reproduction of that environment if you
were diligent enough.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I do love the idea, though, folks, of someone looking
at that data and saying, Wow, this guy is really
good at running. He's just in the ocean, moving at
speeds people cannot achieve. I have just found the flash
on Strava.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Traveling without moving. He's like a MALADIEB type figure.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
There we go.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I guess he's traveling than.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Don't forget?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Forget how could we ever? Was inescapable?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
Jamiroqua is very important, mission critical, actually a mission critical
figure in uh, the secret religion that tennessee and I
have no further questions.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Crazy story. Not the guy whole band, We have a
whole we have a book. His name was JK.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
His name is JK. Yeah, Simmons, different different, different.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Secret religions aside, and we've got more on that on
the way. Uh, there's so much more to get to.
We have a missing major general. We have been following
the news of afro Man and of course many other
geopolitical developments like I'm putting AFROMN in with that one.
We're gonna pause for a word from our sponsors, and
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then we're going to update you with some news we
got from our dear friend of the show, Gandhi, and
we have returned. We were talking about this off air.
We just learned this thanks to our pal, co host
of the Elvis Durant Show, also the creator of the
(04:26):
hit podcast Sauce on the Side. Full disclosure, some of
us went and hung out with Gandhi on her show
Sauce on the Side, and just as we were going
in to record today on Friday, March twentieth, Gandhi guys
hit me up with some news that I wasn't aware of,
and I think all of us just learned about it.
(04:50):
Something spooky is afoot.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, there's there are news alerts floating around right now
that are saying Silverstein Properties, which is owned run by
Larry Silverstein, who you may remember from his ownership of
the Twin Towers in New York City in and around
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the time that they got struck by planes and destroyed.
The news is that Silverstein Properties just purchased a building
in Los Angeles, right.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah, that is correct. Larry A. Silverstein is an American
businessman billionaire who is already a name well known to
people who followed conspiracy theories about the attacks on New
York on September eleventh, two thousand and one. He has
recently acquired a Los Angeles skyscraper. It is the US
(05:49):
Bank Tower. And because of the way things occurred when
he originally took over the World Trade Center just before
the events of September eleventh, now the Internet conspiracy forums
are reinvigorated. People are right now certain that Larry Silverstein's
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purchase of the US Bank Tower is a signal amid
the noise, and that there may be an attack on
that Bank tower. I'm not sure what to.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Make of it, well, the implication being that nine to
eleven was a false flag attack in order to achieve
certain geopolitical goals. The implication this is that as well,
there's already a lot of talk in the wind with
Iran that we might be looking at something like that
to make a good case for furthering that conflict and
encroaching harder.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And a Ron got in front of that, by the way,
and said that any attacks that happen on the West
coast of the United States are going to be false flags. Yes,
they're not going to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
The weirdness with Silverstein properties in the World Trade Center.
If I'm remembering correctly, had a lot to do with
the insurance policies on the buildings and all of the
World Trade Center buildings that were owned there by Silverstein properties.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Was there weird timing with that or something, Yeah, very much.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So he used to well, he said this multiple interviews.
He would go to the top of the World Trade
Center North Tower pretty much every day in his normal
work week, and that's where he would have breakfast now
breakfast meetings. But on the morning of September eleventh, again
in two thousand and one, his wife insisted that he
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go to a medical appointment, go see a doctor, and
so he canceled his breakfast meetings, and therefore he was
not present at the World Trade Center when the attacks occurred.
The insurance thing to your question there, it's really interesting
because the policies together all the World Trade Center buildings,
(07:56):
or not all of them, it was building one to
four and five collectively. That insurance policy was for three
point five to five billion. But Silverstein did something interesting
in the wake of the attacks. He sought double that
amount that insurance guaranteed. He saw something like all over
(08:17):
seven billion, seven point one billion, and his reasoning was
that two separate airplane strikes into two separate buildings meant
there were two occurrences of what the policy needed to
pay out.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Well, he's not.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
He wouldn't be wrong, right, he wouldn't be wrong. I
was gonna say that it seems like a savdy argument
to make to get you. You know, you're the biggest
possible payout, which we know guys like that are great
at doing.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
And it's super murky too because these are old buildings
built in sixty eight and sixty nine, that's in the
nineteen hundreds, and they you know, they had all kinds
of construction issues that needed to be addressed. There there's
a ton you can look. It's a deep rabbit hole,
is all I'm saying. The reality though, of this brand
new news story coming out about Silverstein Properties buying this
(09:05):
property at six thirty three West Fifth Street in Los
Angeles isn't exactly true. There was a there was a
news blurb that went out about, well it was on
the Silverstein Property's website about a new lease in that building.
In actuality, they purchased the building in twenty twenty, right,
(09:25):
So it isn't as though this is something that just
occurred as oh, now there's an opportunity, right for this
other type of thing. If you're if we're following along
the conspiracy theory, we just have to put that out there.
They still own the building.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
My question too, would be, and I've seen this chatter
as well around this question of false flag attacks, why
wouldn't they have done that before the bombing, Right, that's
a good question, would have made a better case for
what is clearly a very unpopular move right. And I
want to clarify some of the news we're giving here.
(10:00):
This was so buying a building of this size or
a deal of this magnitude often takes a while. It's
not an afternoon handshakee. So what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
The reason it's back in the news is the acquisition
has been finalized at this point. The deal was completed
amid the twenty twenty six ongoing conflict in Iran, and
that's why people are speculating so hard about it. To
be clear, there is no at this point concrete evidence
(10:32):
of concrete property jokes. There is no concrete evidence at
this point that could be used to function as a
smoking gun the conspiracy. Put plainly, the conspiracy theory is
that these forces headed by or faced by Silverstein are
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acquiring buildings to participate in some kind of inside job.
And again there is is absolutely nothing in the way
of proof of that other than the tea leaves people
read about his involvement in the properties that were destroyed
during September eleventh.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Where do we land on September eleventh as an inside job?
It's not something that comes up a lot, and certainly
probably a little bit of a taboo subject. I'm suss
about it still, I think, but given how much more
fed up things are in terms of geopolitics, in terms
of this particular administration, if the past administration was capable
of doing something like this, I'm certain that the current
(11:32):
one would do something even wilder. I don't know, what
do you guys think about the nine to eleven conspiracies?
Speaker 4 (11:38):
What do I think? Personally? Nola, that might be you
know what, Let's hang, let's go to the chicken spot
after the court, I.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Would just say, check out architects and engineers for nine
to eleven truth and just see what you think.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
Yeah, speak with the experts. We went to a lot
of primary sources on that. And to be completely clear, folks,
our individual our individual perspectives on this may differ from
entity to entity. I do think that a lot of
our fellow American our fellow Americans still have some very
(12:14):
serious and very valid questions about the attacks of nine
to eleven, And it makes sense that these would recur
in the zeitgeist because people are rightly terrified and concerned
about the possibility of another attack on domestic soil, given
the multiple conflicts occurring around the world right now, in
(12:34):
which the US is playing a pivotal role.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
In the dismantling of the intelligence apparatus that's supposed to
prevent those attacks.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Did you see joking with the Japanese envoy about how
y'all are good at surprises, right, pearl?
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Oh yeah, pearl harbor anybody, why did you tell He said,
why didn't you tell me about that? I was like,
because you weren't in there, dude.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Any crap, Holy cow, Yes, he's got he's got jokes,
ladies in gentle.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Then Japan rolls innat twenty on diplomacy and those kind
of conversations. There was some There was some line that
the PM gave of Japan where she said, I believe you,
Donald Trump are the only the only person who can
ensure peace and stability something like that. So it sounds
(13:22):
very complimentary unless you unpack it and sort of unwrap
what they're saying there, which is saying you could interpret
it as saying, please stop messing up. Yeah, dude, you're
the only one who can stop you from messing up
so constantly. Again, huge credit to our pal Meta Gandhi
(13:44):
for not just making an awesome show, but for hipping
us to this and other stories. Guys, before we and
this part of our weekly strange news program, I would
like to play a clip and let's see what we
can guess. Let's see if we can guess what this
clip is. Sound like a game.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
I love games.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
I got kicked out of kindergarten for that play because
I don't play.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yeah, no, h no, okay day Hi.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Sounds like a sample you'd hear before an AFX Twins
song I want Can you send that to me? Speaking
of sampling, I would miss around with that. What are
we hearing? Ben? I I thought I heard someone calling
my name. This is what is going on.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
A lot of people hear a lot of things, right.
This is V thirty two shout out for all our
long time conspiracy realists. This is a numbers station. Please
check out our earlier episodes from years back on numbers
stations continually fascinating. This one is not accurate in Russian,
(14:58):
it's not occurring in English. This is a Farsi numbers
station and it began broadcasting. At least as far as
we know, this rash of broadcast began shortly after the
death of the Iradian leader, the Ayatola, when you know
the US and Israeli military began their overt actions against
(15:22):
the nation of Iran. This very strange stuff because I
think one of the most disquieting things we all learned
about numbers stations in our investigation all those years ago
is that they're still very active. They're still happening. You
can hear, as we said that clip, you can hear
guy's voice what appears to be a guy's voice speaking
(15:44):
Farsi or Persian, counting out a series of apparently random
numbers read out for various stretches of time, and then
followed by a pause in which they repeat the word tavajo,
which translates to attention three times, so attention, attention, attention,
(16:05):
several random numbers, attention, attention, attention several random numbers. This
sounds like a one time codepad to me.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Yeah, they're read so slowly that in my mind I
imagine someone with a pen, you know, and a pad
of paper writing down those numbers that are read out
allowed on purpose, right, so that somebody can clearly get
those numbers down.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
And this also gets a little more tricky, folks, because
initially when this number station went hot again, it was
jammed on its starting frequency. If we go to people
like a Kin Fernandez who is getting quoted in Radio
Free Europe Radio Liberty, we'll get to them as a
(16:54):
source in a second. Then we'll see that again is
saying someone doesn't want the recipient of this signal to
hear those numbers, whatever they are.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
If you want another little slice of this kind of discussion,
we talked about number stations a bit in our Conspiracy
of Sound live episode that we did with Justin Richmond
at National Sawdask, which you can find in the audio feed.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
And the concept here of number stations, I mean, it's
very much Cold War era mythology and lore, but the
concept is that you can use very basic technology to
bypass your rivals or your outright enemies. In other intelligence operations,
(17:39):
you can use a random series of numbers, and you
can therefore send a coded message to another person, and
that person has what we call a one time pad,
the real life version of a Christmas Story's decoder ring. Right,
So what are they saying? We don't know unless we
get the pad, but we know good in gosh darn well,
(18:02):
that's not a secret message saying drink more ovalty.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Do we know how many numbers are in the sequence
that was being broadcast?
Speaker 4 (18:10):
We know a little bit. I almost want to save
this for an episode here. We know that the code
seems to be consistent, like it's not. It's not as
though it's pie. They are saying the same pattern repeatedly,
or seven series of patterns.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
And these are of course pre recorded and played on
a loop.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
We know that they are being It seems that there
is being a loop transmission in some cases, But we
don't know. If someone's hopping on the mic live like
in college radio, I highly doubt that. I think it
is prerecorded, Like, uh, what's his name?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Mad Dog? In Fallout? What's the think? What's the radio
DJ guy's name?
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Oh, you know I'm talking about moondog. Anyway, if you
want another little glimpse into this kind of covert stuff
throughout history, Ben and I did a really cool discussion
about coded messages and knitting using binary code and hidden
in stitches in in you know, knitting and fabric and
things like that using ones and zeros and or dots
(19:17):
and dashes.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, knitting as espionage. And I think I mentioned you
Nolan too, our palell Max Williams off air that I
have personal reason to believe fabric as a spy tool
is still very much in play.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So uh, fabric is a conspiracy?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Yeah, first glitter, now fabric, what's next. I would love cheese.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
I would love cheese as conspiracy. Don't trust a manger
of any sort, whether it's cheese, fear.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Or monger, always seems so agro to me. Like a
fishmonger makes me think of fear or war, you know,
and cheese. There must be a better way to describe
the purveyors of those delights.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
It makes me think of discworld. For some reason, I
think there were fishmongers in that. I don't know why,
but that's what pinged in my brain.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
There are fishmongers everywhere, and without saying too much. There
are credible concerns in the United States, at least in
recent decades that paused them to treat I kid you
not rug expositions and carpet expositions with a high level
of scrutiny, Like what better excuse to be traveling from
(20:33):
Istanbul or Tehran?
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Right?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
And now I'm in DC. But don't worry, I'm just
selling rugs like oh can I buy a rug?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
No, for you, this one's very expensive because you're not
the customer. We're selling this information to.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Paranoia is fun. That's when you mentioned those guys just
trying to figure out where's it going from next?
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I mean, and also, can you imagine I want to
spend a moment of empathy here all the people who
are just legitimately trying to sell scarves and tapestries or
rugs or what have you. You know, why are they
getting jammed up? But this is what we have to establish, folks.
The number stations are a real conspiracy, not a conspiracy theory.
(21:19):
It's happening now. We're gonna have more on the Farsi
number stations soon. I hope in a future episode of
Maybe Time to revisit those as some of the old
Cold War mechanisms are spinning back up. But for now,
we're gonna leave it with you there for this part
of the weekly segment. We can't wait to hear your thoughts,
(21:40):
especially if you were broadcasting on a number station either
Farsi or Russian language. Just hit us up conspiracydiheartradio dot com.
We're gonna pause for nothing big. Just tell us all
your secrets. We're gonna pause for a word from our sponsors,
and we'll be back with more strange news.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
And we're back.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Y'all.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
All heroes don't wear a cape. Some of them wear
loud shirts with American flag prints and matching sunglasses. In
court and YouTube videos, you're talking about Afroman, y'all.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I was gonna say, you got a narrow that one down.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Oh man, we love I love this guy. I think
he's not as my pals, not my direct pals. I
don't know them personally, but some YouTubers I enjoy on
Internet Today pointed out he's had a bit of a
checkered pass and the dude's not perfect, but in this
particular situation in court case, he is a beacon of
a freedom of speech and liberty at a time where
(22:41):
we desperately need just that thing. Y'all will probably recall
a previous strange news where we talked about police in
Ohio raiding the home of the music artists known professionally
as Afroman. His real name is Joseph Foreman. Yeah, if
(23:06):
you do a little anagrammy type action, you can make
afro Man out of that last name. Some police raided
his home under it would appear misinformation regarding his participation
in kidnapping, some form of human trafficking, and significant drug trafficking.
(23:26):
He kicked down his door. They entered, you know, with guns,
not a blazing but aloft you know, fingers trained on
the triggers and all of that good stuff. Mister mister
Man was not home at the time, and his security
cameras caught the whole thing. Several law enforcement agents you know,
(23:49):
did the whole what they call it tossing of his
home looking for stuff, and they didn't find anything except
a small amount of marijuana as well as a nominal
sum of cash. It was in the handful of thousands
of dollars.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
This is also, by the way, the guy who is
perhaps best known for the Banker song Because I got high.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's right, because I got high? Was that in a movie?
What was that? What was was that featured?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
I think it was.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
It wasn't like Half Baked it was. It was definitely
had a moment, it had a movement.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
It was before nine to eleven.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
It was pervasive.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
I would say, it really was. And it's funny though,
because he's not like mega mega mega famous. That song
is pretty old. And I remember even after that, the
moment that was because I got high. He performed at
a very small venue in my hometown called the Soul Bar,
which is maybe holds two hundred people max. And it
(24:46):
wasn't even like a massive sellout. It was awesome. And
he does things like play a double neck guitar. He
wears all these awesome costumes. He's very George Clinton coded.
A lot of his music isn't just straight up hip hop.
It is funk. It is kind of afro futurists, sort
of psychedelic freak out music. Really big fan of this
guy's vibe. Super super cool. So what happened was mister
(25:11):
Foreman took this footage of these cops tossing his home,
one of them eyeing a piece of pound cake on
his counter under glass like a hungry dog in a
cartoon looking at a steak, or like you know, one
of those cartoon characters that gets stuck on a desert
island and imagines everybody as a piece of chicken or
(25:33):
something like that. It's pretty great, and then proceeded to
use this footage in music videos promoting his brand and
the songs music videos of songs that he wrote about
each one of these cops, naming them by name, and
she's showing them being total clowns, you know, in his house,
(25:57):
overreach all of it.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Can you can you give you some of the titles, Well.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
One of them was Lemon pound Cake, of course, up
under the boardwalk, right, that's right, Ben. Others with titles
like the police Raid, another one referring to a female
police officer who was president at the scene who appears
to have disconnected one of his cameras. The song referencing her,
in addition to another one we'll get into in a minute,
(26:24):
was called why you disconnecting my video camera?
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Why?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And then another the classic will you help me repair
my door?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, yeah, that's the one because.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
It was like twenty grand of damage.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Right, one hundred? He also made another song about the woman.
I'm not going to name their names. I don't want
them to sue me for defamation, because that's what happened.
By the way, we'll get to that in a minute.
Another song accusing her of uh participating in copious kind
of lingual activities with other ladies.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Oh jeez.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Other accusations or again we'll get into the whole idea
of worth these accusations. Or are these things so absurd
that no reasonable person could have interpreted them as being
depictions of fact, you know, talking about doggie style and
one of the dude's wives, things like that. Again, the
(27:20):
police officers banded together, they pooled their resources and I
imagine with the support of the police department there in
what city was this guys, Ohio, Adams County, Adams County, Ohio.
Again imagining that they had the assistance to some degree
(27:41):
of the police department, that somebody thought this was a
good idea for them to sue this man for defamation,
citing irreparable pain and suffering, you know, accusations again of
one of their wives having cheated on the officer with
mister Foreman, things like that, And so I guess in Ohio.
(28:03):
They put all these court cases on the stream because boy,
oh boy, there is footage. There is footage, and whoever's
running that court camera needs to seek a career in cinematography.
Because there is one shot in particular where it's the
woman that I had mentioned earlier, and they play mister
Foreman's lawyer. I don't know if this is just like
(28:24):
an evidence thing where if it's like an exhibit, you
have to watch the whole thing. I certainly know in
murder cases, if there is video or audio, no matter
how horrific it might be, it has to be played
in its entirety in order to be introduced as an exit.
Maybe I'm overstating the case on that one, but I
have seen other examples of this, so maybe that's part
of the law. Maybe it was just by request of
(28:46):
mister Foreman's lawyer. But they're playing the video that I
talked about a minute ago where this dude is accusing
this woman of eating lots of Give me a bleep there,
if you can, I think we know we're talking about here.
He is just in tears, head in hand while this
goofy funk song is playing in the background with mister
(29:09):
Foreman just just bopping in the video, wearing is wearing
wear in a wacky outfit. All the while he's sitting
on the stand bopping too his own song, and the
camera just pans slowly over from this woman in tears
to mister Foreman just staring dackers into her, but in
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the coolest possible way, y'all, not angry, unbothered, moisturized, and
bopping to his own song. Not to mention that they
play the full social media tags before and after each
one of these clips. So not only were these officers
clearly barking up the wrong tree in terms of seeking
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reparations or seeking compensation rather for this, you know, perceived defamation,
they're just getting punked over and over again in this
footage because they're playing the clips and you're having to
see the officers react to them. There's one exchange where
Foreman's lawyer asks one of the officers in question here,
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who want the song about him? I believe this was
Lemon pound Cake officer pound Cake if it was in
any way misrepresenting him. For mister Foreman Afroman to say
that he had had intercourse with this man's wife, and
at a certain point the guy just starts saying, well,
(30:40):
the lawyer says, but this is obviously not true. He's like, well,
I don't know, he said, I don't know. It's out there,
and you start to see the guy unraveling before your
very eyes, Like you start to see him start to
call into question where maybe it was possible that his
wife did have intercourse with mister Foreman, and you just
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you just see it's it's what you call a self
own that's what you call being foisted on your own petard.
It's just wild stuff, guys. It's like something that would
be in Tim and Eric. I don't know how. I
don't know how to describe it.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I think that's a great description. I also want to
shout you out, mister Foreman Afferman, if you're listening. Uh,
you said something that we are huge fans of when
you were on the stand. I have freedom of speech.
I'm a rapper, I entertain and it's very There's more
to it, of course, but uh, is that not an
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electric point right there? He's said, I am entertained. And
I gotta tell you, if you were in that courtroom
and you're watching those clips, you would probably not to
yourself and think got entertained.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Entertained?
Speaker 4 (31:54):
Are you not entertained?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
He goes off in a slightly different direction, Ben after
that very apropos quote that you just dropped there, And
I think this to me sums up the whole thing
because spoiler alert, y'all, he got off, he won, He
won all in baby, Yeah, And I think he probably
has the right to counter sue now, I bet.
Speaker 4 (32:17):
You know what, because he's got the ACLU on his
side as well. He has some pretty powerful forces. And Noel,
even if he doesn't counter sue, at the risk of
sounding like a cold executive producer or C suite guy,
this is phenomenal for his career and for pr no.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Like I said, these clips that are going around from
the courtroom have all of his social tags. At the
beginning and end of every single one, he knew exactly
what he was doing. And this is the quote that
I was going to introduce, and then'll wrap the section up.
I got the right to kick a can in my backyard,
use my freedom of speech, turn my bad times into
a good time. Yes, I do. And I think I'm
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a sport for doing so. Because I don't go to
their house kick down their doors flip them off on
their surveillance cameras, then try to play the victim and
sue them.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Can we talk about how incredibly tasty lemon pound cake is.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
It's wonderful and apparently this was his mama's lemon pound cake.
So you tailors and you know, and the guy. To
be fair, lest we defame these officers any further, the
man didn't take a slice. He just eyed it hungrily.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
It was something in the eyes. Also, yeah, I mistakenly
thought he maybe took a slice, so that would have
been a bridge too far.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
There's also this whole deal about the money they took
it coming back to him four hundred dollars short.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, they were four hundred light at least that's what
he said. And also the the thing about looking at
the powdcake tov is one of the uh, one of
the funniest parts of one of the funniest little twist
in the story, because if I remember correctly, and I
only learned about this when my girlfriend was immediately giving
me breaking updates, the issue is that the law enforcement
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would likely say, well, we wondered if it was lemon
cake containing cannabis or something like that. Maybe that's how
they'll explain that thirsty stare. But you guys, watch it
and you tell us what you think that's the priority
that law enforcement should be chasing. At this point, I'm
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just going to read the closing statement from his lawyer
here Osborne was the name of.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
The rapper's lawyer or the artist's lawyer. He says, what
does this message send if we find that music and
social commentary, while maybe not the most tasteful thing in
the world, is silence because a public official was hurt
by it, And the answer then becomes, we don't want that.
And this is a quintessential free speech case that I
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think has has implications that while we're just being entertained,
like you said, Ben right now and having a good
time with this because it's just so meme worthy and
there's just nothing like seeing folks that are clearly in
the wrong just getting there butts handed to them in
this way, especially in a time where we're just seeing
so much injustice, I understand why this story is going
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so viral and getting so widely reported on. This is
the kind of good news story that we need in
a time where we are just seemingly overtaken by villains.
You know, I don't mean to put too fine a
point on it or make it bigger than it is,
but I think that there's going to be something to
This is going to be looked at by legal scholars
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down the line, you know, an important as an important case.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I hope so, and I hope every time they look
at it when they're for anybody who's getting their law degree.
I hope your professor plays the videos in full and.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
We also hope your professor brings in several giant lemon
pound cakes for you to eat while you peruse the case.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
Enough for the class, That's what I'm saying. Well, and
to that point, y'all. The lemon pound cake video currently
has three point eight million views on YouTube. Pretty cool,
thank you, and one of the top comments, as NPR reports,
is shout out to the cops for making sure I
saw this absolute bop. That one has more than eight
thousand likes, And as we know, this is a very
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classic example of something we often talk about here on
the podcast, the strissand effect. If you want people to
stop talking about this kind of thing and stop punking
you and get on with your life, don't sue them
in a clearly spurloss case that is gonna be videoed
and preserved, especially when the guy he gave him so
(36:46):
much more footage, y'all, He's gonna make so many more
videos with this courtroom footage.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I don't think they know how battle rap works.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
I don't think they do. They. Yeah, man, you don't
bring a gun to a battle rap. You got to
bring bars. People have. Yeah, Well that's true, man, but
it's not. It's not. It's not it's not in the
spirit of the game.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
It's not the spirit of the game. But this very
much is. Uh, thank you so much for bringing us
this story. I feel like it's fair to say we're
all pro Afro man, but I got to check with Dylan. Dylan,
do you have a strong pro or anti afroman stance.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I really love his fashion sense, I gotta say that
for sure.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Funny of that the outfitty war to court is what
the same outfitty war in one of the videos. So
he is like on a branding play and I'm here
for it. That's all I got, y'all. I decided to
I thought that I just wanted some good news, some
fun news, some strange news. Let's take a quick break
here a word from our sponsor, and then we'll come
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Speaker 2 (37:45):
Episode, and we are back with the bad news.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
Every you an't spoil sport you.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
We're jumping over to KOB Channel four in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
In the story written on March sixteenth, twenty twenty six,
the Berna Leo County Sheriff's Office search for missing retired
Air Force general expands. That is Berna Leo b R
N A l I LLLO. This is in New Mexico,
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and they held a press conference on Monday, March sixteenth
to update the public on the ongoing search for a
retired US Air Force major general named William McCasland. We're
going to learn a lot about mister McCasland throughout this segment,
but let's kind of piecemeal some of the facts here
so we can get a big picture. The Sheriff's office
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says they have not ruled out whether he is alive,
he is dead, or whether foul play may be involved.
Either way, they do know a few things. On Friday,
February twenty seventh, there was a repair man who was
at one of the homes owned by the mccastleans. This
person was the last one to interact with McCaslin at
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his residence around ten am. Again, on a Friday morning,
at around eleven ten am, Susan mccaslan Wilkerson, this is
the general's wife left the house for a medical appointment.
That's about an hour later. And then another hour later
at twelve four pm, mccaslen's wife returned home and her
husband was not there. However, his phone was there, his
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prescription glasses were there, and his smart watch was there. Now, guys,
anytime you're going to leave the house, we've talked about
it before. Leaving your phone, your primary smartphone at home
is one of those things that you just don't do,
at least you don't do it purposefully. Sure, unless of
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course you've like put it in the microwave, you know,
for one reason or another because you've got some shady
stuff to do, or some secretive stuff that you don't
want anyone to know about.
Speaker 4 (40:04):
Broke the SIM card. But either way, you know, it's
it's strange because when we're investigating stuff like this, generally
not major general, we what we tend to lean toward
is something going wrong, because if people are trying to
leave behind that kind of stuff. They're usually if they're
trying to commit suido side or they're trying to get
off the grid, they're usually going to either take that
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stuff with them or take it to a location where
they feel it is safe to dispose of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Correct, unless there's something else going on here, right, because
there were some items, some key items that appear to
have been taken by General McCaslin when he left the
house on foot his wallet, a red backpack, and a
thirty eight caliber revolver and it's holster, which is like, hmm,
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maybe there's some business to be done here, if that's
what that reads to me. And last little piece of
information here, investigators early on when he went missing. Remember
we're talking about the end of February here, and we're
recording this on Friday, March twentieth, So he is still
missing right now. He's been gone for a while. But initially,
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early on, investigators released a photo of mccaslan in a
light green, long sleeved button up shirt that they said
he may have been wearing at the time of his disappearance.
Here's where it gets weird, you guys. This is happening
in Albuquerque, New Mexico, at one of the homes that
the mccastleans own. Okay, the sheriff's office said they can
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used around seven hundred homes in and around this area
near Quail Run Court in Albuquerque. They've also searched another
one of mccaslein's homes. This is a general you guys,
he owns multiple homes.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Come on.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
This home is in Pagosa Springs, Colorado. And here's what
they found in the Pagosa Springs, Colorado home. A light green,
long sleeve button up shirt and some hiking boots. Here's
why that's really crazy to me. And tell me what
you guys think. If that is in fact the outfit
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he was wearing when he disappeared from the New Mexico
home and then it appears in the Pagosa Springs home,
it means he somehow traveled over two hundred miles either
by foot by bike he was an avid biker by car,
and it also means he would have traveled over three
and a half hours if the entire trip was by car.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
I mean, this is go bag type stuff, right, This
is like on the lamb type.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
Stuff, doesn't it seem that way, and I don't want
to push traversing rough terrain.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
He's like wearing the boots like he's doing the thing.
Speaker 5 (42:44):
I mean.
Speaker 4 (42:44):
And do we know the contents of the red backpack
at this point.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
We do not. We do not just rope grappling hooks, imagine.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
But there's so many scenarios that we could look into, right, right,
He likely was in a vehicle to travel that two
hundred two hundred fifteen miles. That's just likelihood because people
were searching for him. And if he's on foot, that
would have taken days, like days to travel that far.
Speaker 4 (43:14):
So like, yeah, I agree, I would agree with the
expert's conjecture. There is likely likely using a vehicle if
he made it to that secondary location, and probably not
aircraft just a little bit too easy to trace.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Well, yeah, because there's an active search for him almost immediately.
He had about an hour before anyone knew he was gone.
You know, if he's doing this kind of thing, I
think it's more likely that he had a vehicle stashed
that probably a lot of people didn't know about, maybe
even his wife didn't know about. And then there was
probably something very important at the Pagosa Springs house, the
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one in Colorado that he needed to collect, because I
mean that's again that is complete speculation. All of this
is speculation, traveling by car all that stuff. This is
just from reading the articles that have come out so
far and the knowledge that mcasslein is an avid outdoorsman.
According to all the reporting, a lot of the searching
has been done in the surrounding wilderness areas. There's a
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lot of great places to hike and where there are
not a lot of people around that both of the
homes actually that he owns, and actually the Sheriff's department
is asking anyone in the San Diez there's a mountains
area to come forward if they find anything unusual, particularly
thirty eight caliber shell casings, just to see if there's
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anything there. One of the weirdest things that happened when
Macastle went missing initially is there was a silver alert
put out there. This is a man who is sixty
eight years old, and a silver alert basically is there
is someone who is considered older who may be dealing
Usually a silver silver alert means there's mental issues potentially
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may be memory, maybe dementia, maybe alzheimer or something like
that associated with a silver alert, But a silver alert
doesn't mean that it's just usually associated with that. But
I thought it was fascinating that one got released almost immediately,
which made people question mccaslin's mental state, right if he
encountered him, which to me feels purposeful, as in, you know,
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let's make everyone think this guy's out of his mind, right,
so then even if law enforcement officials encounter him, they
may approach him differently than just as a general. However,
mcaslyn's wife has come forward several times in the news
since he went missing to say no, he was not disoriented,
he was not confused. He was complaining of mental fog
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a few months before the disappearance. But mental fog, as
we know, can be associated with all kinds of different things,
including long COVID right. We know, it can be associated
with all kinds of situations that are not actually dealing
with a full mental health emergency, let's say, or a
long term thing like dementia or Alzheimer's. And the reason
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why we're bringing this to you it's interesting, first of all,
I think, but there's a quote here from the Sheriff's
department that we wanted to read here he goes, this
is Sheriff Allen there of the Bernolio Sheriff's Department. Let
me be straight. We've had a lot of tips, and
we go through all the tips, but there are some
tips with some outlandish theories, some conspiracy theories. We look
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into everything, but we're trying as a law enforcement agency
and entity to look at the facts and make sure
we can retrace before mister mccaslan went missing. Some of
the tips coming in. I don't want to say they're
wasting our time, because we would never say that, but
they are tedious to go through because there are a
ton of conspiracy theories being generated about this man going
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missing because of who he is and what he was
getting into. And that's what we have to do now,
really quickly, and it's we might need to do a
whole episode on General mccaslan. Guys, if that's okay. There's
so many details to his life and the special programs
that this man has touched agreed. According to the United
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States Air Forces official website af dot Mill, he was
the former commander of the Air Force Research Laboratory at
Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, also known as
Right pat He was responsible for managing the Air Force's
two point two billion dollars Science and Technology arm Science
and Technology of the Air Force. Guys. Anyone remember a
(47:42):
little thing called the Legacy program. Let's continue here. He
served a wide variety of space research, acquisition and operations
roles within the Air Force and the National Reconnaissance Office
the NRO. We've talked before about the importance of the
NRO and about signal intelligence and all kinds of other
things that they get into. Here's the one of the
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big ones. He commanded the Phillips Site of Air Force
Research Laboratory at Kirtland Air Force Base in New Mexico.
The Phillip Site, guys, includes the Space Vehicles Directorate and
the Directed Energy Directorate of the Air Force Research Laboratory.
Let me say that again, the Directed Energy Directorate. What
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is directed energy? That we just talked about. Lasers are
directed energy and also.
Speaker 3 (48:33):
The sound wave or whatever, the discombobulator of the microwaves.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yes, the microwaves. That's a little weird. It's a little weird.
He was Vice commander of the Ogden Air Logistics Center
in the Space and Missile Systems Center. He served at
the Pentagon as the director of Space Acquisition. This dude
is a huge deal and knows some stuff. We're not
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talking about just top secret stuff. We are talking about
the super secret thing beyond top secret stuff.
Speaker 4 (49:05):
We're talking about compartmentalized information because.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Yes, because he had all that under his belt, right,
but he also served uh for the the Office of
the Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics as
the director of special Programs. Right, special programs. These are
the special access things that literally nobody gets to know about.
Speaker 4 (49:27):
Things the president would not normally know about unless some
political juice have been poured or.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Expen what our show is named after.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
This is the stuff they don't want you to know,
friends and neighbors. And I think we've all been following
the Mcastle and story pretty closely right now, though to
be clear, a.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Lot of people don't even know about this at all.
It's not getting certainly nothing to me.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Maybe I'm bubbled. Just to finish this right now, to
be clear, Matt, can you verify for us that law
enforcement made no statements about suspecting homicide. They're just treating
it as a missing persons at this point, right.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
They are, But they're certainly not ruling out foul play.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
Say it definitely is, dude, Is that not? I don't
mean to Guys like that are slippery there. If you
want to get out, there are ways to get out.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
So you think he disappeared himself.
Speaker 4 (50:25):
I think he uh.
Speaker 3 (50:28):
I think he was trying to and he got caught
up with I.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
Think both are possible. We don't have enough information at
this point, but we do have to Matt's earlier points there.
We have some troubling precedents, we have some interesting timing
or alignment of events, and then we have other other
stories that got re explored in the wake of this news.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. One last thing, just on some
of the previous reporting here. The Albuquerque Journal and a
bunch of other places reported around March twelfth about some
statements that mccaslen's wife made on social media, which is
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the language is very particular. Let's say, and then let's
just let's just read a quote from this because McCaslin
was involved with Tom DeLong, and this is a guy
with all this kind of information in charge special access programs.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
Tom gets in from music right, Yes, well, well a
huge disclosure guy. Oh that guy. Yeah, I forgot his
second life, second career. He went from music to disclosure
to back to music.
Speaker 2 (51:40):
Yeah, he was involved with the to the Stars Academy,
slash organization, whatever it is. He was kind of a
specialist who knew some things right, so he consulted with
them a lot. So his wife is talking about that.
I'm just going to read this quote. She responds to
questions about you know, him and his association with UFOs
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U a P in particular in those communities, as well
as the secrets that lie there. His wife says, m mmm,
this connection is not a reason for someone to abduct Neil.
Listen to this language. Neil does not have any special
knowledge about the e T bodies and debris from the
Roswell crash stored at right Pat, just as a statement.
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He does not have any special knowledge about the ets
and bodies and debris from the Roswell crash that are
stored at right pat.
Speaker 4 (52:40):
As.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Is that what we're talking about?
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Extraterrestrials? But she just says it. She just says it
as he doesn't have any special knowledge about the stuff
that's there.
Speaker 7 (52:50):
That is heard someone saying that's crazy, My my, I
gave me chills.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
Well, it's just one of those weird things, and it's
it's I'm taking it out of context a little bit.
You read the rest of it about you know, joking
about him being beamed up to a mother ship, because
I mean, she makes a joke about that.
Speaker 3 (53:13):
So maybe her sayings could be tongue in cheek as well.
Speaker 4 (53:16):
It could be, and it may be that, to be clear, folks,
it may be that she's responding directly to some conspiratorial
speculation that irritated her, that she just saw, or maybe
somebody reached out to her.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Like the way the grass used to talk about green
little green men and.
Speaker 2 (53:35):
You know, like that kind of Yeah, it could be that,
or she should She could just be noting, Look, he
doesn't know about hot knowledge. That's just there. Beat me there,
Sorry about that, But yeah, there is one connection that well,
there are a bunch of connections being made obviously with
directed weapons, the Havana syndrome stuff, the discombobulator, a bunch
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of stuff about potential space weapons, a bunch of stuff
about the tential false flags. But there is one other
person that's being connected to mccaslin's story that I didn't
make it before we came into this episode, Ben, why
don't you tell us about that?
Speaker 4 (54:11):
Yes, this is something for anybody else who's been following
this story the way we have. This is something that
may put you a little bit closer to conspiratorial thought
or speculation. While the disappearance of Major General William Neil
mclasland has you know, has a lot of people rightly worried,
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it has also brought attention on another unexplained disappearance that
happened about two months earlier before the mclassland news broke.
This is the story of Monica Reza are easy A
disappeared while hiking. Her disappearance has been unresolved. Why are
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these related? Because she worked on government funded rocket material projects,
aerospace projects overseen directly by the missing major general. So
now people are saying, is it possible that these disappearances
could be connected. Let me amend that she disappeared nine
(55:16):
months ago. She was in a on a hike in
a Los Angeles area forest and apparently, just like McCaslin,
she has a long jacket of working and the kind
of stuff that we love on stuff they don't want
you to know, you guys, She even invented a special
metal that is used in rockets, and she did that
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while she was working for the general.
Speaker 3 (55:40):
Well, he does like a girl with a short skirt
and a long jacket, and he is the very model
of a modern major general. I'm sorry, those were just
floating around in my head. I had to get him out.
I had to get him out. Carry on cake and
Rogers and Hammerstein.
Speaker 4 (55:55):
So apparently somebody saw her like moments before she disappeared.
She was behind them and she was waving, and then
they looked back and she was a ghost. So I
ask you, guys, is it I want to be very
fair here. We always I always try to be very
fair with these things. It's it's possible that these are
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just coincidences, right, that these disappearances have nothing to do
with each other.
Speaker 3 (56:20):
It's possible, man, it is. It's possible.
Speaker 4 (56:24):
It's possible.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
We're not saying it's also probable that they're not.
Speaker 2 (56:30):
Monica Reza's thing is really weird to me, just because
that person was only thirty thirty feet from her when
she disappeared, and there was a massive search through the
entire area that went on for weeks and weeks and
it's still ongoing, right, now because she has not been recovered,
very weird. If you're searching for Monica Reza, you will
(56:53):
find stories about her her going missing. If you if
you search for Monica Reza Jacinto J A. C. I
nt O, you will find h the information about her
and rocket dyne or aerojet rocket dyne and this stuff
called mond alloy, which was it's just this crazy revolutionary
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nickel alloy that can be used for rockets, and she's
been developing it since the nineteen nineties and she's amazed.
Like her, her work is so important to the US
missile systems that exist and the future missile systems that
are currently being built and will be used. It is
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the connection there, I think makes a ton of sense.
I do wonder if there is I've seen some speculation
if you look at red in other places, maybe this
is a lover's kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (57:53):
She disappears, then he disappears. Yeah, it's happened before in
the past. I mean also, oh to details you need
to know, folks. This person Resid is sixty years old
at the time of her disappearance. Her disappearance occurs on
June twenty second, twenty twenty five. We hadn't said that
specific yet, So if it was a if it was
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a collaborative kind of Romeo and Juliet vanished together thing,
then that time window could still make sense.
Speaker 3 (58:24):
Right.
Speaker 4 (58:24):
Let me go and set up stuff first, and then
you'll meet me at the determined location after the heat
has died down. But again, no.
Speaker 2 (58:32):
Proof or maybe has nothing to do with romance and
has something to do with a known project that is
underway or some other you know, they have intel and
knowledge about something that's coming. That's another big rumor. There's
all kinds of stuff that's out there. We recommend you
head over to Space News to an article written by
Deborah Werner on December twentieth, twenty seventeen. It's titled what
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is mond Alloy and Why should You Care? It features
a giant picture of Monica Jacinto, who is also Monica Reza,
holding one of one of these alloys that she helped develop,
and you can just you can see her there and
how important this technology and this material is. Crazy stuff.
(59:17):
Keep an eye out for General McCaslin. If you hear anything,
surely let us know. We'll be keeping our eyes and
ears to the ground and reappreciate your time, and that is.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
All, and that is the let's call it the end
of the beginning. We didn't get to the multiple waves
of drones that are being spotted over air force bases
as we record, but we would love to hear your
thoughts on AFROMAN. We'd love to hear your thoughts on
missing generals and scientists. Please be careful when you use Strava, folks,
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just please be careful.
Speaker 6 (59:50):
Maybe just don't know, maybe just have don't gamify your
personal health. Hit that rumba to the curb, and while
you are out on the curb, do look up number stations.
Check out again V thirty two, the Farsi number station.
We would love your thoughts on that and anything else
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Give it to us, give it all to us. You
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I think there's more, Maddie, what you got?
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three std WYTK. Why don't you give it a call
see what happens. It might be a voicemail. You could
give yourself a cool nickname and let us know if
we could use your name and message on the air.
It might show up in one of our listener mail episodes.
Speaker 3 (01:00:49):
The message might self destruct, dude.
Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
You can also email us.
Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
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Entities the redach piece of correspondence we receive. Be well aware,
yet unafraid. Some times the void rights back back. Send
us a random fact. We will send you one in return.
There is no word limit, sic, nicknames or cool monikers,
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you one, all you need to do is ask. A
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