Nicaragua's President Daniel Ortega pitches pausing elections -- causing Ben, Matt and Noel to wonder about the future of the United States. Japan invents a new type of 'human refrigerator' to combat growing heat. Former Epstein collaborator Daniel Siad passes away under mysterious circumstances in Paris. Uncle Sam desperately searches for the the sources behind recent journalists' reports at The New York Times. A bizarre incident outside of a federal building in New York. All this and more in this week's strange news segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noah.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Max the freight Train Williams. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here. This is the last Strange
News program of July twenty twenty six. Welcome to July
twenty seventh. Peep behind the curtain. We're recording this on
(00:51):
July twenty second, so some things may happen in the interim.
Was a mind blown sound effect?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Not the the big one being dropped sound effects?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, this is the h Chris Angel mind freak? Was
it mind freak? The guy? Yeah, that's the mind freak of.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
That guy is so Jersey. It's incredible. How jersey that
dude is. You look at him and you think he's
some sort of mystical wizard, and then he talks.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
He talks like this, It's like wild. Why I love it.
It's like that New York ssyecheck you ran into not
too too long ago, that's true.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Can I also just say I know that being a
mystical wizard and being highly Jersey are not mutually exclusive.
I don't want anybody coming at me from Jersey saying
that I'm excluding them from mystical wizardry. It's just a
little bit of a you know, a jarring kind of combo.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, and we've got some jarring tombos ahead in this
week's Strange News. We like to start and on a
positive note. We we can and women can. We'd like
to end on a on a positive note as well. Uh, guys,
for everybody who was watching the most recent World Cup,
you know there's always a kerfuffle of conspiracy, see of
(02:01):
people with strongly divided views. It's been. It was a
bad day for the people of Buenos Aires not too
long ago when Argentina lost the Cup in a very
long match with Spain. Spain one by one point, arguably
(02:22):
too but the refs didn't agree. So we wanted to
give some good news coming out of Argentina. Guys, it's
not all a loss for the good people of South
America's europe An Argentinian Court has recently recognized two goldfish
(02:42):
as quote sentient beans with rights. Do you guys ever,
do you guys ever have goldfish or eat them or
anything like that? Eat them?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
No, heavens, I may have one one in a fair
carnival ping pong ball throwing.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They gave it to you a little plastic bag. Gave
it to mean a little plastic bag.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I had beta fish, never goldfish, but they're roughly the same.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So I cannot help Ben.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
But think of the the ted Lasso mantra of be
the goldfish, the idea of how they don't have very
long memories. So do you think this will even matter
to them? Is this a symbolic act? Do you think
they can even appreciate it?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
That's interesting that you bring that up. First Off, I'm
a huge fan of Ted Lasso. I think all of
us are. Secondly, the the the factoid that gets quoted
a lot about goldfish and memory may not be entirely true. Yeah,
well it's fish good the Ted you know. Yeah, Matt,
did you ever have a goldfish?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, first of all, I still haven't seen an episode
of ted Lasso, but I'm looking forward to binging the
whole thing.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Oh my gosh, it's it's a sweet show.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
It's got good, it's got hearts, it's good to feel
good watch.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's like a well written, insightful Hallmark card to the
point where you're watching this and we know each other
pretty well at this point, Matt, so I would say,
I would say there there are a few moments where
I could see you going this show has no right
to be as good as it is because it's based
(04:12):
off an insurance mascot. Oh. Now that I did not
know is there is there a new season, Ben live
right now? They may do it, it's not live right
now if there's okay. For some reason, I've I've been
seeing it pop up in the feed again and I
was wondering if maybe I missed it there was a
new season.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I trust that there are incredible writers behind that
that team and that show. But in my eyes, guys,
none of that matters, because Jason Sudeikis can do no wrong.
In my eyes, that man is a treasure.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And he would have goldfish.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Sorry you asked about goldfish, Ben, I have not had goldfish.
But it is really cool that court. Every time a
court in any country begins to recognize that things that
are alive especially creatures, do have some kind of rights
when it comes to I guess, defending themselves against humanity,
(05:10):
or at least individual human who might cause them harm.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, man, legal personhood. We did an episode on that
a few years back, maybe more than one, and I
think we all walked away saying, yeah, it might sound
weird to give you know, your favorite cetaceans or elephants
or goldfish in this case, legal personhood, but it's actually
(05:35):
it's gonna be a huge deal. This also, by the way,
these court rulings in Germany, in Argentina and elsewhere, they
assume that the courts are going to do their jobs
before we go to it at break. Noel Man, your
question had to follow up. You were absolutely right, dude.
(05:56):
There is not only a new season of ted Lassawara,
it's coming out next month.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, good news for all the lasso heads out there.
I think I'm up to date. I will say to
your point about Jason Sidekas can do no wrong. I
do believe he served his ex divorce papers while she
was on stage at an event.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh a one. Maybe that wasn't update right, I don't know.
It was Olivia Wild. Olivia sucks.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's I didn't know that I met on screen. I'm yeah,
I don't know there. Every human being you've seen on
a screen before, you do not know that person. I
only took what I know of that man from being
on screens that I watch. So whatever, damn it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
We're we contain multitudes.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh, Ben, speaking of being on screens. That the personhood thing,
I just found it. Twenty thirteen, May one, twenty thirteen,
What makes a Person? Part two, Non Human Personhood on
our YouTube channel.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Nice call a Haha. We were right about a good thing. Finally,
we are going to thank you, Matt. We are going
to take a pause for a word from our sponsors
so everybody can catch up with Ted Lasso and real quickly.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Apparently, according to his representatives, Sidekaz had no knowledge of
how those papers would be served, when and where. So
just Aleena, that's what the that's what reps are saying.
So don't don't want to be throwing that man under
the bus.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
He is a national treasure whom we have not met
in person exactly. So as we're as we're going into
the ad break there again, there is a reason that
we teased a little bit about the solvency or the
relevance of courts of legal systems throughout not just the
(07:47):
United States but the world entire We're going to take
a break for a word from our sponsors, so everybody
can catch up with Ted Lasso and will be right back.
We'll see you in Nicaragua.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
The reason for the teason, and we have returned, all right,
So full disclosure.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
A lot of people in the United States have never
been to Nicaragua. A lot of people have. It's one
of those countries in Central America where a lot of
school kids in the States may have heard about it,
may have a personal relationship, right, may have family members
who live there, or family members who originated from there,
(08:37):
but you don't hear a ton ton about it in
US news.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Ben, I can say I don't know much about Nicaragua
outside of the contrast in our explorations of historical events
are surrounding those events.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I suppose Noriega, right, Noriega, Oliver North, we're talking about
Iran Contra, right, M.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, and the uh Well, it's so US centric, man,
and I hate feeling that way sometimes. But most of
what I've read about it is from a Western point
of view. When it came to those the trials essentially
or the investigation into that situation. And it was always like,
it's from an American perspective, right, a lot at least
(09:20):
a lot of things I've read.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Oh and sorry, guys, quick correction, if you're on air NOL,
you mentioned Manuel Noriega. That's he was the head of Panama.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
But he was definitely involved and he was a US
asset on the CIA payroll during these these these conflicts
with Nicaragua.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh wow, see, and I don't even know the specifics
like that. I wish I did, but I freaking don't.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So let's let's go to why this is. While we're
talking about Nicaragua right now, the president of Nicaragua is
making publicly stated moves to abolish election in the country forever.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, is its proper? Like, just let's not change the
way they were, Let's not tweak the system, let's just
remove all elections.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Could I just put up a parallel there, guys, isn't
or Taga pretty old?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
It is indeed an excellent parallel there, Matt And it
leads to the turn of the story here. So Daniel
Ortega this Sunday, according to the Hill In an article
published just yesterday by the journalist Ryan Mancini, Daniel Ortega
said this past weekend that the country of Nicaragua is
(10:42):
moving toward quote not holding a presidential election next year
end quote. Everybody except for Ortega believes that this is
a move for him to retain control over the country
with his wife Rosario Mario, who is also get this
guy's his co president. On the forty seventh anniversary of
(11:09):
the Sandinista revolutions takeover, they held a government rally. This
was last Sunday, as we record, and Ortega stated that
their quote won't be any more elections here for them
to try and seize the government and seize power end quote.
So he's saying that the reason they won't have elections
(11:32):
is not because he's a power hungry guy on the
verge being a dictator, but instead because the Yankees aka
the United States interferes in foreign elections and inserts inserts
people that have a pro US agenda, even when it's
at the expense of the Nicaraquan people. And what I
(11:54):
hate about this, guys, is that that is a valid
to have a problem with, right, Like, we can't pretend
the US did not intervene all throughout Latin America. But
also he's held on to power for so long. He
(12:15):
was voted out of office in nineteen ninety, he came
back in two thousand and seven. He's been president for
almost ten years now. Seems illegal.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's just, I mean, everybody's got a different constitution, everybody's
got a different you know, declaration, independs and all these well,
and actually we really have our the primary Declaration of Independence,
that's the whole thing. Should look it up. But the
you know, a constitution or a legal document that states
the things like term limits and how many times one
can be president. Right, And everybody's different in that respect.
(12:48):
Some democracies like to keep leaders around for a long time, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Any Russian president, whomever they may be, let's let's get
some laws for them. Yet this guy is this guy
is really interesting and it's quite a pickle for democracy.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
There is.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I found a great New York Times article about this.
The Hill is a free to read source if you
don't want to have to scale a paywall. This has
drawn intensive probrium from the United States, particularly Marco Rubio, who,
as we know, is being evaluated for a higher seat
(13:29):
of power right now, a secretary of state. And he said,
or Taga talking out his neck like this. He didn't
say that, part I said that. Part he said, or
Taga talking out of his neck like this lays bare
their true authoritarian nature, that they have abandoned even the
pretense of popular consent. Rubio goes on paraphrasing to talk
(13:51):
about the importance of democratic elections in the process, and
then he says, this is the earlier statements here, Mattinal,
this feels a little hypocritical. He says, the United States
calls on the international community to join forces and demonstrate
to the Morio or take a dictatorship, that it cannot
(14:11):
expect to maintain business as usual with other nations when
it is thwarting the basic tenets of our democratic hemisphere.
And then he like awkwardly drank from a little bottle
of water. If you guys remember that, Did he use
both hands? Did he hold it up like a baby bottle?
You know, I think he did. No, I think he
did that. They We've had so many memes, but but
(14:35):
this is this is evidence again of something we have
talked about, and people much smarter than us have talked
about for several years now, a global rise of right wing,
right wing governments, authoritarian governments, violating human rights, eroding democracy,
(14:55):
bullying the innocent public. And I don't know, guys, do
you think this guy Do you think this dude's gonna
get maduroed? That's my first question. Yeah, I did not know.
I guess you could make anything into a verb.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Cancium Yeah, I would just say this, I don't know
enough about Nicaragua's natural resources to be able to comment
on whether or not he's gonna get Maduro, right. I
would need to look that up and then we can.
We can pretty easily make a prediction.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, depending on yes, exactly, depending on there they are
resource rich, but also their position there right between the
Pacific and the Atlantic, right in Central America. The real
estate alone could make it enticing. They're they're not known
(15:49):
for being a big oil place to say the quiet
part out loud, but they have a lot of agriculture
and mining resources. So maybe, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Ben, right there, smack dab in the middle of Latin
America right there, just like Hey, Cuba's because Cuba is
prime right despite you know, in like a power outage
of the entire country, despite everyone in desperate need for
water and food and all those things. Cuba is somehow
(16:24):
still one of the most dangerous places to the United
States on the planet, according to the authorities.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Well, there's a lot of talk about beginning military action
against Cuba.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Am I wrong that it's exactly in the wind right now?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yes, that's what. That's what I mean by like being
primed in the news and in the speak within the
Pentagon and White House and other places.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, it's it's uh. It's also a dark version of
old bargaining tactics. You want to normalize invasion of Cuba,
say some wild crap about Greenland first, and now you're
isle in it back. Now everybody's being reasonable. You know
what's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's funny, ben, So basically like say, saying something about
Greenland that maybe is unreasonable and would probably never actually happen,
you're priming the pump for the thing you actually want
to do.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah. Yeah, Like if you are bargaining for if if
you want, if you want two free cats, you start
at five. Normalizing the discourse, you know, just like anchoring
in menu psychology, which is a whole different bag of badgers.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Can we just add into it, blasting boats in the
Caribbean out of the water, like every day that continues,
So the bombings will continue.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It really, I did.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
That's so funny, Remember how that was such a news item,
such a hot button thing. The way was reported and
it seemed like they were being called the task And
of course it continues, but as far as the news
cycle is concerned, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It's non existent.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But but why, what's the rhetoric? What's the reasoning behind
bombing all those boats?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Drugs? Right?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
The drug trade?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Where's Nicaragua? What does Nicaragua had a pass with either
because of CIA intervention and or just because it is
one of the things that grows in that land and
is a quick, powerful way to make lots and lots
of money.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It's a huge transit country, right, It's a huge transit country.
All your favorite gangster rappers when they're talking about the
Colombian connection, they're also referencing Nicaragua. Shout out to immortal
technique sharing this story because it's not getting reported as
to the to the level it should in an equally
(18:35):
imperiled democracy. The turn here is this, guys. I'm a
huge fan of PBS I think and hope we all are.
Just a few days ago, kind of in step with
the signals from Ortega Nicaragua, a former White House attorney
who did work for the Trump administration came out and
(18:59):
set the President of the United States is definitely planning
to declare a national emergency or an emergency of some
sort leading up to the US midterms to prevent that
election or to heavily influence it. This attorney is Ty Cobb.
(19:20):
He was right. He was a Hall of Famer Thay
Cob right. His second act was becoming an attorney, apparently
in the first Trump administration. And he was the dude
who this a name that needs to be heard more
often outside of baseball. He was the dude who managed
the response to Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russian
(19:45):
election interference, which was actually proven, by the way, with
the recently declassified docs by the Trump admin.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Oh, we should talk a little bit about that. Are
you talking about the Russia russa Russia hoax?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Talking about most recently the Trump administration, when when the
President made that big speech about the twenty twenty election,
said they were really really a bunch of documents and that.
And the thing is, if you go back and read
the documents, what it seems to indicate is it pre
supporting Russia was messing with the election and in Trump's favor.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Right, that's correct, Yeah, right, right, And that's the Russia
russa Russia hoax, so at least the one he's talking about.
And I believe the Steele dossier was part of that.
That's so fascinating because there was I don't know if
you've seen guys, there was an interview or like on
the run and Gun kind of you know, reporter fly
by drive by of the dude that's doing a lot
of that research into these documents, and he's got handlers
(20:43):
with him, and he basically says that no, he'd found
that no votes were turned. And then immediately his handler's like,
all right, we got to go.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
It's time to go. We gotta get out of here.
He's tided to give this guy out of here. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
And and then the contents of those documents that he
referenced in that speech is what you're saying, and would
have supported Trump's victory rather than the other way around.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Absolutely, Yes, that's what we're saying here. We also have
speaking of we gotta go, we gotta go. We've got
to go to an ad break here in a second.
Before we do, we want to we want to introduce
you to another story that needs to be larger in
the news. A modeling scout named Daniel Sayed, who has
(21:27):
been extensively cited in the Epstein files and linked to
Jeffrey Epstein, has been found dead in Paris. He's sixty
nine years old. He was under investigation in France over
accusations of sexual assault and of aiding Epstein in the
trafficking and abuse of children and young women. He has Yeah,
(21:52):
he is apparently dead of a cardiac incident, is the
official report.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, that's what I was saying, And that came out
really recently, right as we're going to record. One thing
I didn't realize about this story is that on what
was it? It was June thirteenth, CNN put out an
interview with him. So think about that, guys. A little
(22:18):
over a month ago, CNN conducted an interview with this
person wherein he is speaking to his relationship with Epstein
and the modeling agencies that the MC squared modeling agency
that Epstein allegedly was working for in a big part
of and some of the things that the man says
in that interview, it makes you wonder if somebody was
(22:44):
worried about what he was saying out loud.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Absolutely, yeah, because Side worked under something called the What's
Up Management modeling agency. He described himself. He immigrated from
Sweden just for backgrounds, and he may be an episode
in the future of other people who are believed to
have been well have been murdered in some way due
(23:10):
to their association with Epstein Impossible Secrets. It also reminds
us of the guy Jean Luke Burnell, who also passed away.
He had identified Side to investigators as a scout or
recruiter of girls for Jeffrey Epstein. Brunell died in twenty
(23:31):
twenty two. He was seventy five and his cause of
death was hanging.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Dude, like Epstein, he was a waiting trial. We've talked
about him before. He was a waiting trial in prison.
Died of hanging in prison. And if you don't mind
being just really quickly just a quote from that CNN interview.
It's fascinating to see Sayad sit there at a desk
(24:00):
and talk to the CNN journalist. Just get their name.
Katie pull Glass polg l A s E. This is
what he says, because he keeps going on and on
about how he didn't know, he didn't know necessarily all
the things about Epstein. He knew he was convicted, but
(24:20):
he didn't He thought he was okay, thought Epstein was
somebody he could trust. And here's why I'm gonna read
this quick. I'm very honest and sincere with you. You're repeating
the same thing. I am nobody. I'm somebody from the mountain.
When you meet somebody a billionaire, when a known person
worldwide and so on. He was convicted with all whatever
he did, and when I find out and he's free,
(24:44):
he comes to Paris, he's free. He says, I paid
as in I paid for the things I had done,
my crimes right, And the agency he was working for
didn't close. He was such a powerful person. How can
I not trust him?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yeah, So it continues, by the way, this guy before
his death, he was working with Epstein even after that
two thousand and eight conviction for quote, soliciting prostitution from
a minor end quote, And he said that Jeffrey Epstein
had assured him hey, this is never going to happen again.
Another clip from that interview, which you can read in
(25:20):
a lot of places. Here, he says, quote I trusted him,
meaning Epstein, and believed this guy was a professional person.
I never heard anything from anyone I introduced him to
who came back to me that they had a bad situation,
and the interview was worth looking into again. I do
think this is an episode. We know. There's so much
(25:41):
strange news we just threw at you. There's so much
going on in the world. We're going to hear more
about this case in the future. And if you don't
hear more about this case, that probably means you should
be looking into it just like us do.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Isn't it crazy that he says he was introduced to
Epstein as a financier for this MC squared organization, but
he was acting as a casting director for Victoria's Secret.
That's how Epstein introduced himself to this person.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Think about Wexner again, folks, And also, if you feel
like ruining your evening, check out the text that are
proven from the Epstein files between said and between Epstein.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Himself, particularly the phrase too old, too old.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
They were sixteen years old and that's what Epstein was
replying to. We're gonna give you a chance to read
through some of that. Folks, be warned. It's not appropriate
for all, i'd say, any audiences. But we'll be right
back with more strange news.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
And we've returned. Guys, I'm gonna keep this short. Two things.
I want us to think about the implication more than
the actual story here. The story very recently coming out
of ABC News because of something that just happened on
July twentieth, which is just a couple days ago. As
we record, on the twenty second of July twenty twenty six,
a man named Andrew Arabacabacca who is forty three years old,
(27:23):
who is described as a former soldier who served from
two thousand and one to two thousand and five by
ABC News. This person is caught on video doing something crazy.
They appear to be wearing some wild pants and a
strange outfit. They run up to a federal building. They
(27:47):
dump out some sort of liquid onto the ground there
in front of the building, on the sidewalk, and then
this person appears to light it on fire. It appears
to be gasoline or something that is quite flammable. Explosive.
Perhaps that's why I say gasoline and then it lights
on fire. He lights his shoes on fire for a
moment and then kind of you know, runs away, it
(28:10):
stumbles away, almost, But it doesn't seem to have a
lot of how would you say, there's not a lot. Yeah,
it's weird. It's very strange. A person seems to be
in a strange headspace. That's just observations.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Whistlin Dixie, very strong, very slow, deliberate walk away from
a fire.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yes, that he just started, and from the clear images
like CCTV camera from up above and people who are
also filming him as he's apparently acting erradically, they're watching
him do this. Then he's kind of ambling away and
gets tackled, and then the whole thing is over. But
he's there's all this other weird stuff that this guy
(28:53):
has with him in you know, those little and specifically
you know, I just point to you, and I'm sure
we all have this experience. But no, I don't know
if you, as being a dad, ever had that like
cart thing that you'd take to a park. I've been.
I don't know if you've had one of those not.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Quite a stroller, but like a little more of like
a you can put a red wagon.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, it's like a it's a pushable. I'm just making
up a word. It's a possible. It was a possession
of a.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
In my experience, it's a poll thing. But you put
the heavy stuff and sometimes a kid in there and
bring them around a lot of times to a park
or when you're on a walk or something.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I mean, you're describing an old school like red wagon,
but like I guess this is more of a modern
war cloth maybe.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yes, yes, with mash sides correct. You see a lot
of unhoused people, uh, with those in the South, and
you'll often see them attached to the backs of bicycles
is a thing you can also see as an attachment.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
In in his he had all kinds of melee weapons
in there.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
What Yeah, First of all, Matt, you're you're the expert here,
at least more than me. What would you cat gris
as a melee weapon doesn't have to be a club.
This is separate than a bladed edged weapon.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Here here is a quote. He had two axes, a hammer,
a machete, and three knives.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Okay, so he also had would still qualify as melee yes,
melee just being like something wielded by the hand. Firearms.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, but so he has all of these things. He
also has incendiary devices. He's got a bunch of fireworks.
He has a bunch of fireworks. He also had an
airsoft gun that he allegedly fired five or more rounds from.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Like five to seven, wasn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, at what when he as he was doing his thing,
whatever it was that he was doing there at twenty
six Federal Plaza in New York City. And it's the
reason why we're even talking about this. It's it's not
because there's one person who had whatever was going on
(31:03):
through his mind. He had these ideas and then went
enacted on them, which is there are two separate sets
of circumstances, right, having some weird ideas and then taking
the actions on those ideas. The thing we're talking about
here is the rhetoric which is surrounding this person in
these actions.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Oh oh, and this also, by the way, the Federal
Plaza that we're talking about, it is it does have
a bunch of clients. They're not all Uncle Sam outfits.
It's like any other big building in a city that
isn't the long lines building. One of those clients, though,
is the Department of Homeland Security. Well, and Matt, if
(31:43):
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
This also comes on the heels of some pretty fiery
rhetoric from Stephen Miller about classifying political opposition as domestic terror.
So it seems like this could be just to kick
in the pants that kind of talk would need.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
This is precisely why we're talking about it, because this
person is being described as a quote, anti government extremist. Okay,
let's think about that phrase. What does that mean? An
anti government extremist?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
So antifa is how they would refer to them, even
more pejoratively.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Short and anti fascist. Right, that's one concept being against
one thing, but now this is anti government, right. The
Department of Homeland Security has described him as anti immigration
and customs enforcement rioter. Interesting we've heard I saw that.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
That was so weird because rioting is a group action,
and as a group act, what data do we have
to back this up? This does to me seem like maybe.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
A mentally unwell individual acting in isolation.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well, this is a veteran, you know, an American veteran
being described as an anti American, anti government extremist. The
reason why it bothers me a lot, guys, is because
especially when you're bringing rioter in there, which is a
pretty loaded term that we've seen used against a lot
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of different groups of people, right, the different rioter, looter,
these kinds of words that get thrown around Franklin, HM, extremist, terrorists,
all of these things. It's just it's worrying me in
particular because we we did see some some very recent
words from that Stephen Miller thing character whatever he is.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
That entity, Yes, entity is quite right.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And you know, and I don't mean that to I'm
not trying to offend anybody. This is my personal opinion
of a human being in the words that come out
of their mouth. It's just it's.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Did you see what he said about describing people that
participated in these things as being deformed?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I didn't see that he did say that.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And that's you know, a furthering of othering, of creating
a language around these are our enemies and you can
eventually just boil it down to anyone who disagrees with us.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, and we're talking about the United States. Former soldier
who served from two thousand and one to two thousand
and five worked as a mechanic on patriot missile systems
who just did something terrible, right, set a fire public
in a public area that could have harmed a lot
of people. And he had a lot of weapons with
him that could have potentially harmed people, right, and was
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taking erratic actions that should not have been taken.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
It.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
But then you're you're somehow creating something much larger out
of that, right, and you're potentially weaponizing the concepts there
and the actions for other things, which I just I
don't know, take issue with me because I'm worried that
it's going to get aimed in other ways really soon.
In the rhetoric being talked about, Ben, as you said
about the elections coming up and some of the rhetoric
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that we're hearing around that, it's all starting to snowball
in a way that is uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, we call it. We'll introduce you to it if
you haven't heard it in our previous episodes or the
work of our colleague Greg Stoker. This is what we
call forever war doctrine. So all of the egregious illegal
war crime stuff that's happening in a world awade, no
matter whom you align with politically, you have to realize
(35:40):
that a lot of that is a laboratory. It's a
laboratory wherein tactics are perfected that will inevitably be applied
to you. History is very clear on this absolutely.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
That being said, it also does feel like there's a
certain amount of overplaying of hands here. And I'm not
saying that that he can't declare some state of emergency
and steal the elections, or that you know they can't start.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I mean, we've seen it historically, it has happened.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
We would like to think that we've learned from the
past enough that this wouldn't happen again, but we sure
are seeing signposts of the past and echoes of the
past and this kind of behavior towards citizens. I just
would like to think that that something's in place to
keep it from going as badly.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
As it's gone in previous versions of this.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I don't know, but I can't lose sleep every night
of my life worrying that they're coming for me in
my family, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I don't know. It's hard.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Here's the situation I think we find ourselves in. There
are three official branches of the United States government. One
of them is in control by a group of people that,
you know, we'll say things the way they've been seeing them,
and paint them the way they've been painting them, and
pit everybody against each other for what appears to be
(37:04):
power and money grabs along the way. And it's pretty
easy to see that if you open your eyes and
look at it. We've got another branch of that government
that is pretty much controlled by a majority. And then
we have another branch of government that is pretty much
controlled by a majority that are all that same group.
And there's this thing, this fourth branch, as a mortal
(37:26):
technique would call it, or a fourth estate as American
parlance would call it, that we can hopefully count on
to at least show us the truth. Immortal technique would
disagree with that concept. The press, I mean the press.
So here's the other thing that's happening. AP News written
(37:47):
by Eric Tucker and Joscelyn Novek, July twenty first, twenty
twenty six, officials sought phone records of New York Times
journalists and their relatives in an effort to unmasked sources.
I'm going to read a tiny bit here just so
we understand and President Donald Trump's administration sought phone records
of several New York Times journalists and even those of
some of their relatives. According to Emotion unsealed Monday, that
(38:10):
is this past Monday's record on Wednesday, July twenty second.
This is an unusually aggressive attempt to unmask the confidential
sources of reporters who wrote about the president's Katari gifted
Air Force one jet. The put I'm just gonna keep
going just for a second.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
By the way, isn't even possible to use because it's
too it's too much work to get it cleared. I
believe that's the latest news. Sorry, mad didn't I just
remember reading that yesterday.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Wait, I don't have to go into too much more.
You can read it if you want to.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
The government itself is stating that the reporters themselves, the journalists,
the ones part of that fourth estate slash branch, are
not the targets. The targets are the people who are
leaking classified information to the fourth Branch.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Which would be technically breaking the law law for those leakers. However,
just like democracy, and I don't want to sound like
a broken record, journalism is heavily imperiled right now, and
we're not too far away. We're like one coarse but
hair away from the current administration in the US and
(39:21):
across other countries from it's we're on the eve of destruction,
such that powerful people in government will now start calling
reporters anti government, extremists, will start calling them rioters, not
because they physically showed up somewhere, but because they reported
a truth the rulers didn't care for.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Well, I mean, and again not to be too hyperbolic,
and I know this has almost become cliche, but not
likening the current administration to the Nazis per se, but
their historical similarities, and one of them is the notion
of the Lugan press, which was the lying media, the
lying press, and the idea of to demonize that fourth
of state and discredit them as much as possible and
(40:05):
make it really difficult for them to do their job.
That's totally what's happening right now. And I could also
argue that that is a sign that they're scared of them,
so you could look at that as a positive in
some ways.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
And so far they haven't.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Seemed to be able to dismantle that a state yet
and we are still getting big information dumps, and it
does seem like this administration is a leaking like a
sieve because people within it are actively trying to work
against its interests, which is a sign of, you know,
the center cannot hold.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
It's a it's an attempt to silence those that would
speak out against those who are abusing power. Just got
to say it. That's what it is. Folks that are
abusing power, and they don't like it when you call
them out on that. Here's a last little quote here
from that AP News article, and I believe this is
from a This is a motion that was filed by
(40:57):
The Times. Quote to the subpoena to seek records beginning
on January first, twenty twenty six, long before the events
that are purportedly the basis for the department's investigation. That
timeframe strongly suggests that the department is using this investigation
not to focus on any purported concerns arising from the
(41:18):
July eighth and ninth articles, but instead to forage for
information about the journalists' source relationships. More broadly, who's talking
to the journalists about the dirt that we're doing. Let's
find out and what was that.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I don't want to. I don't want to allege that
anyone would get taken out, but it makes you nervous
that maybe it could happen. All Right, that's it for
this segment. We'll be right back after some corporate sponsors.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Assuming we're still here. We returned with today's last goal listener.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Male, We are the We did survive, We did make
it through the ad break. Guys is maybe a couple
of days old from when we sit and record this,
and we have talked about this individual's legal issues in
the past. But Andrew Tate, the manosphere influencer and quite
the mentor of young Baron Trump, and his brother Tristan
(42:28):
Tate were arrested in Miami to be extradited to the
UK on thirty eight new charges including sexual exploitation, facilitating trafficking,
offenses relating to indecent child abuse.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Images, and many, many, many more.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
You know, it's this is a person who these types
of allegations have followed around for many, many years. The
reports of you know, partners who's had in the past
of him, you know, like choking and doing all sorts
of unwelcomed violent acts, and it would appear that Donald Trump,
despite the coziness of Tate and his brother with young Baron,
(43:15):
is not going to block that extradition.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
So that's part of the news.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
The other part of the news is that he and
his brother were arrested with the most dapper outfits that
I think I have ever seen Andrew Tate. Like the
memes are just righting themselves. Andrew Tate was wearing like
what looks to be like a button down like Perry
Winkle blouse and capri pants and sockless kind of loafers.
(43:42):
He's being described as looking like a divorced auntie. And
his brother is like fully kind of suited up and
also wearing some kind of wingtip type shoes. But the
Andrew Tate outfit is really what's kind of got the
Internet going a bit.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Nuts with some folks on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
I just had Andrew and Tristan Tate arrested in Miami
for wearing these outfits. Andrew Tait is so masculine. All
young men should listen to everything. This guy in the
purple shirt, skin tight caprepants and silver slippers says, and yeah,
it goes on. Like I said, it's it's the stuff
of internet. Red meat, So you do love to see it.
(44:22):
Hopefully these charges will stick, and it is kind of
fun to see it. Dude that is so seemingly reliant
on being seen as the most alpha dog in the
room getting kind of clown for looking like a bit
of a dandy boy. Not to say that anyone shouldn't
be able to wear whatever clothes they want, but when
you're putting yourself out there is mister tough guy and
(44:43):
then you're wearing silk blouses and tight caprepants, it's you know,
it's kind of funny, kind of poetic justice.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
The things that he has been wanted for and arrested
for unreal, just pretty.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Heinous, and and for it to be.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
I mean, it's like, okay that the son of the
President of the United States thinks this guy rules.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
It just really speaks to that, you know.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
And I mean, we've got UFC fights on the on
the White House lawn, and we've got domestic violence abuse
allegations very credible against folks like Connor McGregor, you know,
the guy who won that fights, spreading these anti trans messages,
you know, and conspiracy theory rumors about Michelle Obama.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I mean, it's just this is the kind.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Of stuff, this whole manisphere thing, I think it really
represents kind of like a rot, you know, that is it.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Is starting to creep.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
I mean, it's been creeping to the surface for years now,
but it's just it's it's so mainstreamed that it's almost unremarkable.
And then when you see someone like this getting taken
the task and this level of severity to the charges,
you do hope that maybe there will be a reckoning.
But I don't know, what do you think, Ben, You
don't even know it's Epstein class type stuff. If those
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allegations haven't stuck and created an outrage, like what will
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yeah, sorry, guys, I'm laying back a little bit on
this one, just for since you know, tracking tape for
a long time. Just the like the Epstein stuff, the
heinous nature of the grimes and the accusations, and the
the rot that wormed its way into the apple of
the zeitgeist. It's it's very disturbing to me. I know
(46:32):
it's very disturbing to all of us, but I take
the activities of creatures like this very personally. It's very
upsetting and and I'm using the word creatures here, even
though not all of these allegations or accusations have been
proven in court, if only because there are so very many,
(46:54):
we have to we have to realize that there is
a new sphere of social dynamic and interaction and by
a large human society, perhaps even human brains are not
prepared this. There's going to be another date and they're
going to get bigger and bigger, and one of them
(47:15):
eventually will attain a position of power actual, not just
influencer stuff, but government power, corporate power. Right.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
So that's the degree of closeness between the son of
the president and this man and his ideologies. I mean
the fact that he found that to be enticing.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
And this is.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Someone that is utterly the right age to be set
up to be, you know, significantly powerful person. Depending on
the way political winds blow, could be the kind of
young man that grows up to be the even worse
version of what we're seeing, who has been raised in
this kind of ideology.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You know, speaking of fathers and sons, do you guys
know anything about Emery Andrew Tate the Third's father.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Dude named Emery Tate junior. He is a master chess player,
and and it seems to be an incredible human who
did divorce young Andrew's mom in the nineties and nobody
knows their personal life but them. But this guy was
(48:26):
like honored when he passed because of some of the
strides he took as the man who he was, and
how you know, amazing he was at the game of chess. It's,
I don't know, weird. It was weird. It makes me sad,
It makes me.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
The diversion from in that respect, you know, it just.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Seemed yeah, anyway, I I don't know what to say
about it. Besides it, you wish for the best, you know,
for a better version of perhaps yourself or the thing
that makes up you when you have a child. But
it sucks that that that my free cams is the
way Andrew decided to go.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Indeed, one more slightly Trump related thing, I'm sure you
guys saw the president kind of I don't know, somewhat
bum rushing his way onto the stage at the World
Cup of Victory kind of photo op and then sort
of being you know, kind of gently ushered off stage
by the head of FIFA, the president, Gianni Infantino. It
(49:33):
would appear that this was not particularly welcome by the team,
the Spanish team that won. A lot of folks were
seen kind of snubbing the president and not shaking his hand.
And then the photos that were ultimately published but by
FIFA and specifically by Spain, there was a lot of
talk on the internet that they had quote photoshopped Trump
out and did find a fact check on that on
(49:57):
a website called amp dot dw dot com, sort of
a Snopes situation. It would appear that that is not
in fact entirely true. It was more an issue of
cropping and a choosing of the angle. But there definitely
is an image where it looks like when you ab
Ith Infantino would have been on the left side and
(50:19):
then Trump would have been on the right side, and
Trump is nowhere to be seen.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
But he was there the whole time. But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
This is another example of finding it fascinating how much
this dude just kind of needs to elbow his way
into the spotlight.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
I mean, especially American service members are dying in the
Middle East, for sure, Is that the time to go
to a sports game? No?
Speaker 2 (50:40):
No, it's sure, well hold on, no, wel you shared,
what is this link to.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
D W Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's check with the secondary photo that shows
where how it potentially is cropped. And it does look
legit the thing you're talking about, the way it's potentially
cropped there. But the president is facing a completely different
direction than everybody else in the photo.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Yeah, he's being led away or they're trying.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
To get him off right, But also he does has
the appearance at times of just being bewildered and not
quite knowing.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Where he's at.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
He's there like a child who wanders in the middle
of a movie to quit the Big Lebowski.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Like perhaps off screen there's somebody beckoning to him to
you know, okay, we're done.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Well, it would appear that the picture that we're seeing
the overhead view of he's just far enough away to
not make it into the edge of the photo, but
he hung out there as long as he possibly, just
kind of clapping and looking around. And you know, there's
a combination of it being like an act of vanity
and also a bit of an actor just not reading
the room, and potentially a little bit of you know,
(51:47):
evidence of sundowning. So that's that it would appear that
it's not in fact the case that he was photoshopped
out that wasn't required, but he certainly was not featured
in the publication of these images.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
And I haven't confirmed this, but I do.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
I've seen it reported that he wasn't happy about that.
If you can imagine mm hmm, which I think it doesn't,
it's not much of a stretch.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
I know that Ben, you're you're probably among the three
of us the biggest Japanophile and have been to Japan
many times, and we've often talked about their vending machine
culture and you know, gotcha Pong machines and all of
that stuff, and how they're so miles ahead technologically and
just in the way they integrate a lot of things
into their society.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
What is gotcha pong?
Speaker 3 (52:39):
It's toys and little little balls, little bubbles.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Okay, yeah, but it's much more robust than say the
kinds of coin operated things you'd see in America in
a in a grocery store or like a you know,
mini golf kind of place.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
There's a whole culture around it. There are whole stores
that just have rows and rows and.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
Stacks and stacks of these things, and you can anything,
you can imagine any any popular you know type intellectual
property can be represented in these things, and they're also
typically higher quality, wouldn't you say, ben than kinds of
little rubber balls.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
And things we would see over here. Yeah, it's very
common in Japanese cities of all shapes and sizes to
see like Noel is describing gatchapon stores, think of them
like twenty four hour laundromats. They often won't have a staff.
It's just a little, little or very large room where
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you have the right amount again and you can get
like fully articulated action figures. People chase and collect the sets.
It's also a very like if you, like us, are
traveling back back to Japan or East Asia in the
humid summer months, that you're going to be grateful for
(53:54):
those gadgepon stores because they have air conditioning sometimes and
you don't have to buy anything ooh it.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
So it's less of a store more of like an
arcade situation, very.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Much arcade machines. Yeah, in front of Tombani's convenience stores,
they're everywhere, like bubblegum machines used to be in a
certain age in the United States.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
Or think of like the old timey automats you know
of the fifties, in the forties and fifties here in
the United States, but much more robust than you can
get anything you could possibly imagine, as is also the case,
so the gotcha pungks would be more like little trinkets
and toys. The vending machines you can get anything from
really really high quality sandwiches and drinks and anything you
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can think of. They also have whatever you want. They
also have really good systems of like I don't know,
I saw this recently, Ben, there are apps you can
get and they're all connected to these machines and they
will reward you with credits depending on how many steps
you walk in.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
A day, right, yes, yes, are yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:54):
So there's all these crazy little integrations of this technology
into their society that we just couldn't even imagine over here.
And it's wild and I'm excited to experience it with
my family in November. But to that point then, about
air conditioning. One thing that we in Japan have in
common is summers are getting hotter and hotter. So that
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same kind of industrious innovation, the attitude that goes into
the gotchapam machines and all of these vending machines being
able to have un you know, staffed kind of opportunities
like that all throughout the city. They are expanding that
to personalized air conditioning. Japan now has human refrigerators that
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are inspired by vending machines, and so as the summers
in Japan are becoming increasingly hotter, as I was saying,
companies are thinking of ways to help individuals deal with
that heat. One company has released a product that they
describe as a human refrigerator called the dough Human Box.
It is a one person cooling booth that looks like
a giant refrigerator and its designed specifically to cool the
(56:02):
human body. They were developed by a Japanese refrigeration and
vending machine company because it's got to think about it,
the refrigeration is a huge aspect of these machines. They
are called SDRs, and they're being sold by an industrial
equipment supplier called Trusco Nakayama, and it seems like they're
doing quite well. You know, they maintain an interior temperature
(56:23):
of fifteen degrees celsius, so it's already cool from the
moment you step in the side, but then when you
sit on this chair that's been pre chilled to around
five degrees celsius. It starts to blow air on your head,
neck and shoulders and instantly surrounds your body with cool air.
(56:44):
And then, of course, as we've talked about recently, I
don't remember if it was on this one been a
Ridiculous History, but the public restaurant, No, it was on
Ridiculous History. We did an episode about public toilets. These
machines are also self sanitizing.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Dude, pretty cool. It looks crazy right then, and the
hearing it just if you heard the word the human refrigerator,
and then you see the picture and you're like, what
what what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (57:09):
I thought we are we talking about wrestlers.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
But my god, the implications of having these on work
sites like construction sites anywhere where somebody is outside doing
exhaustive labor like this could be a game changer.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (57:22):
One of the comments on this the page is on
Japan today that I was looking at was this could
help save lives.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
Yeah, very much so. And in a heat wave.
Speaker 4 (57:29):
And another thing, ben as as we've already kind of
hinted at, these machines are very affordable and they are
like for everybody really, for construction sites, for example, folks
that are out there doing heavy labor in extreme heat,
dressed in like heavy clothing. This could change the elderly.
(57:50):
The elderly to your point, game changer. Let's see. I
did see specifically a discussion about that very aspect of it.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
Since they're one point five million yen.
Speaker 3 (58:04):
One point five million yen currently is a little bit
more than nine thousand US dollars, So we're talking per
I believe there, Matt. We're talking Uh, one point five
million yen is the per unit price to create one,
not to use one. So how are you? Are you
(58:24):
ten dollars?
Speaker 4 (58:27):
So I am also kind of maybe misunderstanding another aspect
of this. I don't know that these are just out
in the world like vending machines, though I would I
could see how that would be the next step.
Speaker 3 (58:41):
Yeah, they're going to be more common, I think so.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
I think the idea and the way this is being
written about currently is that companies might be buying these,
like construction companies might might have these on site like
porta potties. But I could also see a world we're
having these out available in the same plausas as the
vending machines.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
Are on every street corner.
Speaker 4 (59:02):
Would be that aspect that could make it life saving
for perhaps unhoused people or you know, people that are,
like you said, the elderly.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
Some people might go in just in case the human
refrigerator has a trash can. You're going to be tripped
out when.
Speaker 4 (59:22):
I did hear that there's no public trash cans? Yeah,
just yeah, people are expected to carry their trash.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
With them and bring it out. Yes, yeah, it's mynerstery
clean outside of like shouldn't you gou.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Why not just start into a toilet, a trash can,
and a human cooler.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
You know what? Hey, why not just make it a
small house of people who need a place to live.
And they didn't call us for the uh for ideas,
or maybe they did. There was a language barrier.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
It just like reclines back.
Speaker 3 (59:52):
Yeah, I mean this is the country that invented capsule hotels, right, yeah,
which we've all enjoyed from time to time.
Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Guys, just to wrap this up the way they put
it in this Japan Today piece, just to sum up
kind of what we were saying, though currently aimed primarily
at businesses and organizations rather than home users. If Japan's
summer temperatures continue to rise, we may soon see the
human refrigerator becoming a more common fixture in public spaces
and perhaps one day be as common as a Japanese
(01:00:20):
vending machine.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
That's the idea for the future of these things. They
are also on wheels, so they're meant to be mobile.
They're meant to be deployed to these construction sites or
various you know, I could see them perhaps, you know,
in hospitals, maybe concerts, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Yeah, amusement parks. I mean. Also, we got to keep
in mind, folks, we are we don't get to say
this too often, but we are a bit spoiled here
in the United States. A lot of places European countries
and Japan included, don't have the same ubiquity of air conditioning,
so that makes this doubly important. It's a good point.
(01:00:57):
So is that the case bend.
Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
There's not a it's not as common in Japan to
have central air as it is in the States.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
It's not as common. No, but that's that's that we're
not casting aspersion.
Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
It's same in same in New York obviously, But like
you would think. Also, perhaps it makes sense too because
so many of the in the cities, at least in Japan,
the apartments are very small, right.
Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah. It also you know, it's it's a weird, uh
disparity because the United States has a cartoonish amount of
air conditioning, so we look kind of crazy when people
come to visit this country. Also, thanks for coming. Yeah, welcome,
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No, and I had one that I'll I'll leave for
another time and just involves a pilot program of a
robot humanoid.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Noah.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Max the freight Train Williams. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here. This is the last Strange
News program of July twenty twenty six. Welcome to July
twenty seventh. Peep behind the curtain. We're recording this on
(00:51):
July twenty second, so some things may happen in the interim.
Was a mind blown sound effect?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Not the the big one being dropped sound effects?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, this is the h Chris Angel mind freak? Was
it mind freak? The guy? Yeah, that's the mind freak of.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
That guy is so Jersey. It's incredible. How jersey that
dude is. You look at him and you think he's
some sort of mystical wizard, and then he talks.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
He talks like this, It's like wild. Why I love it.
It's like that New York ssyecheck you ran into not
too too long ago, that's true.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Can I also just say I know that being a
mystical wizard and being highly Jersey are not mutually exclusive.
I don't want anybody coming at me from Jersey saying
that I'm excluding them from mystical wizardry. It's just a
little bit of a you know, a jarring kind of combo.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, and we've got some jarring tombos ahead in this
week's Strange News. We like to start and on a
positive note. We we can and women can. We'd like
to end on a on a positive note as well. Uh, guys,
for everybody who was watching the most recent World Cup,
you know there's always a kerfuffle of conspiracy, see of
(02:01):
people with strongly divided views. It's been. It was a
bad day for the people of Buenos Aires not too
long ago when Argentina lost the Cup in a very
long match with Spain. Spain one by one point, arguably
(02:22):
too but the refs didn't agree. So we wanted to
give some good news coming out of Argentina. Guys, it's
not all a loss for the good people of South
America's europe An Argentinian Court has recently recognized two goldfish
(02:42):
as quote sentient beans with rights. Do you guys ever,
do you guys ever have goldfish or eat them or
anything like that? Eat them?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
No, heavens, I may have one one in a fair
carnival ping pong ball throwing.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
They gave it to you a little plastic bag. Gave
it to mean a little plastic bag.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
I had beta fish, never goldfish, but they're roughly the same.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So I cannot help Ben.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
But think of the the ted Lasso mantra of be
the goldfish, the idea of how they don't have very
long memories. So do you think this will even matter
to them? Is this a symbolic act? Do you think
they can even appreciate it?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
That's interesting that you bring that up. First Off, I'm
a huge fan of Ted Lasso. I think all of
us are. Secondly, the the the factoid that gets quoted
a lot about goldfish and memory may not be entirely true. Yeah,
well it's fish good the Ted you know. Yeah, Matt,
did you ever have a goldfish?
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Well, first of all, I still haven't seen an episode
of ted Lasso, but I'm looking forward to binging the
whole thing.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Oh my gosh, it's it's a sweet show.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
It's got good, it's got hearts, it's good to feel
good watch.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's like a well written, insightful Hallmark card to the
point where you're watching this and we know each other
pretty well at this point, Matt, so I would say,
I would say there there are a few moments where
I could see you going this show has no right
to be as good as it is because it's based
(04:12):
off an insurance mascot. Oh. Now that I did not
know is there is there a new season, Ben live
right now? They may do it, it's not live right
now if there's okay. For some reason, I've I've been
seeing it pop up in the feed again and I
was wondering if maybe I missed it there was a
new season.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
But I trust that there are incredible writers behind that
that team and that show. But in my eyes, guys,
none of that matters, because Jason Sudeikis can do no wrong.
In my eyes, that man is a treasure.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
And he would have goldfish.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Sorry you asked about goldfish, Ben, I have not had goldfish.
But it is really cool that court. Every time a
court in any country begins to recognize that things that
are alive especially creatures, do have some kind of rights
when it comes to I guess, defending themselves against humanity,
(05:10):
or at least individual human who might cause them harm.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
Yeah, man, legal personhood. We did an episode on that
a few years back, maybe more than one, and I
think we all walked away saying, yeah, it might sound
weird to give you know, your favorite cetaceans or elephants
or goldfish in this case, legal personhood, but it's actually
(05:35):
it's gonna be a huge deal. This also, by the way,
these court rulings in Germany, in Argentina and elsewhere, they
assume that the courts are going to do their jobs
before we go to it at break. Noel Man, your
question had to follow up. You were absolutely right, dude.
(05:56):
There is not only a new season of ted Lassawara,
it's coming out next month.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah, good news for all the lasso heads out there.
I think I'm up to date. I will say to
your point about Jason Sidekas can do no wrong. I
do believe he served his ex divorce papers while she
was on stage at an event.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh a one. Maybe that wasn't update right, I don't know.
It was Olivia Wild. Olivia sucks.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
That's I didn't know that I met on screen. I'm yeah,
I don't know there. Every human being you've seen on
a screen before, you do not know that person. I
only took what I know of that man from being
on screens that I watch. So whatever, damn it.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
We're we contain multitudes.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Oh, Ben, speaking of being on screens. That the personhood thing,
I just found it. Twenty thirteen, May one, twenty thirteen,
What makes a Person? Part two, Non Human Personhood on
our YouTube channel.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Nice call a Haha. We were right about a good thing. Finally,
we are going to thank you, Matt. We are going
to take a pause for a word from our sponsors
so everybody can catch up with Ted Lasso and real quickly.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Apparently, according to his representatives, Sidekaz had no knowledge of
how those papers would be served, when and where. So
just Aleena, that's what the that's what reps are saying.
So don't don't want to be throwing that man under
the bus.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
He is a national treasure whom we have not met
in person exactly. So as we're as we're going into
the ad break there again, there is a reason that
we teased a little bit about the solvency or the
relevance of courts of legal systems throughout not just the
(07:47):
United States but the world entire We're going to take
a break for a word from our sponsors, so everybody
can catch up with Ted Lasso and will be right back.
We'll see you in Nicaragua.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
The reason for the teason, and we have returned, all right,
So full disclosure.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
A lot of people in the United States have never
been to Nicaragua. A lot of people have. It's one
of those countries in Central America where a lot of
school kids in the States may have heard about it,
may have a personal relationship, right, may have family members
who live there, or family members who originated from there,
(08:37):
but you don't hear a ton ton about it in
US news.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Ben, I can say I don't know much about Nicaragua
outside of the contrast in our explorations of historical events
are surrounding those events.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I suppose Noriega, right, Noriega, Oliver North, we're talking about
Iran Contra, right, M.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, and the uh Well, it's so US centric, man,
and I hate feeling that way sometimes. But most of
what I've read about it is from a Western point
of view. When it came to those the trials essentially
or the investigation into that situation. And it was always like,
it's from an American perspective, right, a lot at least
(09:20):
a lot of things I've read.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Oh and sorry, guys, quick correction, if you're on air NOL,
you mentioned Manuel Noriega. That's he was the head of Panama.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
But he was definitely involved and he was a US
asset on the CIA payroll during these these these conflicts
with Nicaragua.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Oh wow, see, and I don't even know the specifics
like that. I wish I did, but I freaking don't.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
So let's let's go to why this is. While we're
talking about Nicaragua right now, the president of Nicaragua is
making publicly stated moves to abolish election in the country forever.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Yeah, is its proper? Like, just let's not change the
way they were, Let's not tweak the system, let's just
remove all elections.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Could I just put up a parallel there, guys, isn't
or Taga pretty old?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
It is indeed an excellent parallel there, Matt And it
leads to the turn of the story here. So Daniel
Ortega this Sunday, according to the Hill In an article
published just yesterday by the journalist Ryan Mancini, Daniel Ortega
said this past weekend that the country of Nicaragua is
(10:42):
moving toward quote not holding a presidential election next year
end quote. Everybody except for Ortega believes that this is
a move for him to retain control over the country
with his wife Rosario Mario, who is also get this
guy's his co president. On the forty seventh anniversary of
(11:09):
the Sandinista revolutions takeover, they held a government rally. This
was last Sunday, as we record, and Ortega stated that
their quote won't be any more elections here for them
to try and seize the government and seize power end quote.
So he's saying that the reason they won't have elections
(11:32):
is not because he's a power hungry guy on the
verge being a dictator, but instead because the Yankees aka
the United States interferes in foreign elections and inserts inserts
people that have a pro US agenda, even when it's
at the expense of the Nicaraquan people. And what I
(11:54):
hate about this, guys, is that that is a valid
to have a problem with, right, Like, we can't pretend
the US did not intervene all throughout Latin America. But
also he's held on to power for so long. He
(12:15):
was voted out of office in nineteen ninety, he came
back in two thousand and seven. He's been president for
almost ten years now. Seems illegal.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
It's just, I mean, everybody's got a different constitution, everybody's
got a different you know, declaration, independs and all these well,
and actually we really have our the primary Declaration of Independence,
that's the whole thing. Should look it up. But the
you know, a constitution or a legal document that states
the things like term limits and how many times one
can be president. Right, And everybody's different in that respect.
(12:48):
Some democracies like to keep leaders around for a long time, right, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Any Russian president, whomever they may be, let's let's get
some laws for them. Yet this guy is this guy
is really interesting and it's quite a pickle for democracy.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
There is.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
I found a great New York Times article about this.
The Hill is a free to read source if you
don't want to have to scale a paywall. This has
drawn intensive probrium from the United States, particularly Marco Rubio, who,
as we know, is being evaluated for a higher seat
(13:29):
of power right now, a secretary of state. And he said,
or Taga talking out his neck like this. He didn't
say that, part I said that. Part he said, or
Taga talking out of his neck like this lays bare
their true authoritarian nature, that they have abandoned even the
pretense of popular consent. Rubio goes on paraphrasing to talk
(13:51):
about the importance of democratic elections in the process, and
then he says, this is the earlier statements here, Mattinal,
this feels a little hypocritical. He says, the United States
calls on the international community to join forces and demonstrate
to the Morio or take a dictatorship, that it cannot
(14:11):
expect to maintain business as usual with other nations when
it is thwarting the basic tenets of our democratic hemisphere.
And then he like awkwardly drank from a little bottle
of water. If you guys remember that, Did he use
both hands? Did he hold it up like a baby bottle?
You know, I think he did. No, I think he
did that. They We've had so many memes, but but
(14:35):
this is this is evidence again of something we have
talked about, and people much smarter than us have talked
about for several years now, a global rise of right wing,
right wing governments, authoritarian governments, violating human rights, eroding democracy,
(14:55):
bullying the innocent public. And I don't know, guys, do
you think this guy Do you think this dude's gonna
get maduroed? That's my first question. Yeah, I did not know.
I guess you could make anything into a verb.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Cancium Yeah, I would just say this, I don't know
enough about Nicaragua's natural resources to be able to comment
on whether or not he's gonna get Maduro, right. I
would need to look that up and then we can.
We can pretty easily make a prediction.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, depending on yes, exactly, depending on there they are
resource rich, but also their position there right between the
Pacific and the Atlantic, right in Central America. The real
estate alone could make it enticing. They're they're not known
(15:49):
for being a big oil place to say the quiet
part out loud, but they have a lot of agriculture
and mining resources. So maybe, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Ben, right there, smack dab in the middle of Latin
America right there, just like Hey, Cuba's because Cuba is
prime right despite you know, in like a power outage
of the entire country, despite everyone in desperate need for
water and food and all those things. Cuba is somehow
(16:24):
still one of the most dangerous places to the United
States on the planet, according to the authorities.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Well, there's a lot of talk about beginning military action
against Cuba.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Am I wrong that it's exactly in the wind right now?
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yes, that's what. That's what I mean by like being
primed in the news and in the speak within the
Pentagon and White House and other places.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah, it's it's uh. It's also a dark version of
old bargaining tactics. You want to normalize invasion of Cuba,
say some wild crap about Greenland first, and now you're
isle in it back. Now everybody's being reasonable. You know
what's funny.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
That's funny, ben, So basically like say, saying something about
Greenland that maybe is unreasonable and would probably never actually happen,
you're priming the pump for the thing you actually want
to do.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Yeah. Yeah, Like if you are bargaining for if if
you want, if you want two free cats, you start
at five. Normalizing the discourse, you know, just like anchoring
in menu psychology, which is a whole different bag of badgers.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Can we just add into it, blasting boats in the
Caribbean out of the water, like every day that continues,
So the bombings will continue.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
It really, I did.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
That's so funny, Remember how that was such a news item,
such a hot button thing. The way was reported and
it seemed like they were being called the task And
of course it continues, but as far as the news
cycle is concerned, it doesn't.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
It's non existent.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
But but why, what's the rhetoric? What's the reasoning behind
bombing all those boats?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Drugs? Right?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
The drug trade?
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Hmm?
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Where's Nicaragua? What does Nicaragua had a pass with either
because of CIA intervention and or just because it is
one of the things that grows in that land and
is a quick, powerful way to make lots and lots
of money.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
It's a huge transit country, right, It's a huge transit country.
All your favorite gangster rappers when they're talking about the
Colombian connection, they're also referencing Nicaragua. Shout out to immortal
technique sharing this story because it's not getting reported as
to the to the level it should in an equally
(18:35):
imperiled democracy. The turn here is this, guys. I'm a
huge fan of PBS I think and hope we all are.
Just a few days ago, kind of in step with
the signals from Ortega Nicaragua, a former White House attorney
who did work for the Trump administration came out and
(18:59):
set the President of the United States is definitely planning
to declare a national emergency or an emergency of some
sort leading up to the US midterms to prevent that
election or to heavily influence it. This attorney is Ty Cobb.
(19:20):
He was right. He was a Hall of Famer Thay
Cob right. His second act was becoming an attorney, apparently
in the first Trump administration. And he was the dude
who this a name that needs to be heard more
often outside of baseball. He was the dude who managed
the response to Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russian
(19:45):
election interference, which was actually proven, by the way, with
the recently declassified docs by the Trump admin.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Oh, we should talk a little bit about that. Are
you talking about the Russia russa Russia hoax?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Talking about most recently the Trump administration, when when the
President made that big speech about the twenty twenty election,
said they were really really a bunch of documents and that.
And the thing is, if you go back and read
the documents, what it seems to indicate is it pre
supporting Russia was messing with the election and in Trump's favor.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Right, that's correct, Yeah, right, right, And that's the Russia
russa Russia hoax, so at least the one he's talking about.
And I believe the Steele dossier was part of that.
That's so fascinating because there was I don't know if
you've seen guys, there was an interview or like on
the run and Gun kind of you know, reporter fly
by drive by of the dude that's doing a lot
of that research into these documents, and he's got handlers
(20:43):
with him, and he basically says that no, he'd found
that no votes were turned. And then immediately his handler's like,
all right, we got to go.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
It's time to go. We gotta get out of here.
He's tided to give this guy out of here. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
And and then the contents of those documents that he
referenced in that speech is what you're saying, and would
have supported Trump's victory rather than the other way around.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Absolutely, Yes, that's what we're saying here. We also have
speaking of we gotta go, we gotta go. We've got
to go to an ad break here in a second.
Before we do, we want to we want to introduce
you to another story that needs to be larger in
the news. A modeling scout named Daniel Sayed, who has
(21:27):
been extensively cited in the Epstein files and linked to
Jeffrey Epstein, has been found dead in Paris. He's sixty
nine years old. He was under investigation in France over
accusations of sexual assault and of aiding Epstein in the
trafficking and abuse of children and young women. He has Yeah,
(21:52):
he is apparently dead of a cardiac incident, is the
official report.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah, that's what I was saying, And that came out
really recently, right as we're going to record. One thing
I didn't realize about this story is that on what
was it? It was June thirteenth, CNN put out an
interview with him. So think about that, guys. A little
(22:18):
over a month ago, CNN conducted an interview with this
person wherein he is speaking to his relationship with Epstein
and the modeling agencies that the MC squared modeling agency
that Epstein allegedly was working for in a big part
of and some of the things that the man says
in that interview, it makes you wonder if somebody was
(22:44):
worried about what he was saying out loud.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
Absolutely, yeah, because Side worked under something called the What's
Up Management modeling agency. He described himself. He immigrated from
Sweden just for backgrounds, and he may be an episode
in the future of other people who are believed to
have been well have been murdered in some way due
(23:10):
to their association with Epstein Impossible Secrets. It also reminds
us of the guy Jean Luke Burnell, who also passed away.
He had identified Side to investigators as a scout or
recruiter of girls for Jeffrey Epstein. Brunell died in twenty
(23:31):
twenty two. He was seventy five and his cause of
death was hanging.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Dude, like Epstein, he was a waiting trial. We've talked
about him before. He was a waiting trial in prison.
Died of hanging in prison. And if you don't mind
being just really quickly just a quote from that CNN interview.
It's fascinating to see Sayad sit there at a desk
(24:00):
and talk to the CNN journalist. Just get their name.
Katie pull Glass polg l A s E. This is
what he says, because he keeps going on and on
about how he didn't know, he didn't know necessarily all
the things about Epstein. He knew he was convicted, but
(24:20):
he didn't He thought he was okay, thought Epstein was
somebody he could trust. And here's why I'm gonna read
this quick. I'm very honest and sincere with you. You're repeating
the same thing. I am nobody. I'm somebody from the mountain.
When you meet somebody a billionaire, when a known person
worldwide and so on. He was convicted with all whatever
he did, and when I find out and he's free,
(24:44):
he comes to Paris, he's free. He says, I paid
as in I paid for the things I had done,
my crimes right, And the agency he was working for
didn't close. He was such a powerful person. How can
I not trust him?
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Yeah, So it continues, by the way, this guy before
his death, he was working with Epstein even after that
two thousand and eight conviction for quote, soliciting prostitution from
a minor end quote, And he said that Jeffrey Epstein
had assured him hey, this is never going to happen again.
Another clip from that interview, which you can read in
(25:20):
a lot of places. Here, he says, quote I trusted him,
meaning Epstein, and believed this guy was a professional person.
I never heard anything from anyone I introduced him to
who came back to me that they had a bad situation,
and the interview was worth looking into again. I do
think this is an episode. We know. There's so much
(25:41):
strange news we just threw at you. There's so much
going on in the world. We're going to hear more
about this case in the future. And if you don't
hear more about this case, that probably means you should
be looking into it just like us do.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Isn't it crazy that he says he was introduced to
Epstein as a financier for this MC squared organization, but
he was acting as a casting director for Victoria's Secret.
That's how Epstein introduced himself to this person.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Think about Wexner again, folks, And also, if you feel
like ruining your evening, check out the text that are
proven from the Epstein files between said and between Epstein.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Himself, particularly the phrase too old, too old.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
They were sixteen years old and that's what Epstein was
replying to. We're gonna give you a chance to read
through some of that. Folks, be warned. It's not appropriate
for all, i'd say, any audiences. But we'll be right
back with more strange news.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
And we've returned. Guys, I'm gonna keep this short. Two things.
I want us to think about the implication more than
the actual story here. The story very recently coming out
of ABC News because of something that just happened on
July twentieth, which is just a couple days ago. As
we record, on the twenty second of July twenty twenty six,
a man named Andrew Arabacabacca who is forty three years old,
(27:23):
who is described as a former soldier who served from
two thousand and one to two thousand and five by
ABC News. This person is caught on video doing something crazy.
They appear to be wearing some wild pants and a
strange outfit. They run up to a federal building. They
(27:47):
dump out some sort of liquid onto the ground there
in front of the building, on the sidewalk, and then
this person appears to light it on fire. It appears
to be gasoline or something that is quite flammable. Explosive.
Perhaps that's why I say gasoline and then it lights
on fire. He lights his shoes on fire for a
moment and then kind of you know, runs away, it
(28:10):
stumbles away, almost, But it doesn't seem to have a
lot of how would you say, there's not a lot. Yeah,
it's weird. It's very strange. A person seems to be
in a strange headspace. That's just observations.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Whistlin Dixie, very strong, very slow, deliberate walk away from
a fire.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yes, that he just started, and from the clear images
like CCTV camera from up above and people who are
also filming him as he's apparently acting erradically, they're watching
him do this. Then he's kind of ambling away and
gets tackled, and then the whole thing is over. But
he's there's all this other weird stuff that this guy
(28:53):
has with him in you know, those little and specifically
you know, I just point to you, and I'm sure
we all have this experience. But no, I don't know
if you, as being a dad, ever had that like
cart thing that you'd take to a park. I've been.
I don't know if you've had one of those not.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Quite a stroller, but like a little more of like
a you can put a red wagon.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Yeah, it's like a it's a pushable. I'm just making
up a word. It's a possible. It was a possession
of a.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
In my experience, it's a poll thing. But you put
the heavy stuff and sometimes a kid in there and
bring them around a lot of times to a park
or when you're on a walk or something.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I mean, you're describing an old school like red wagon,
but like I guess this is more of a modern
war cloth maybe.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Yes, yes, with mash sides correct. You see a lot
of unhoused people, uh, with those in the South, and
you'll often see them attached to the backs of bicycles
is a thing you can also see as an attachment.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
In in his he had all kinds of melee weapons
in there.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
What Yeah, First of all, Matt, you're you're the expert here,
at least more than me. What would you cat gris
as a melee weapon doesn't have to be a club.
This is separate than a bladed edged weapon.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Here here is a quote. He had two axes, a hammer,
a machete, and three knives.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Okay, so he also had would still qualify as melee yes,
melee just being like something wielded by the hand. Firearms.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, but so he has all of these things. He
also has incendiary devices. He's got a bunch of fireworks.
He has a bunch of fireworks. He also had an
airsoft gun that he allegedly fired five or more rounds from.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Like five to seven, wasn't it. Yeah?
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah, at what when he as he was doing his thing,
whatever it was that he was doing there at twenty
six Federal Plaza in New York City. And it's the
reason why we're even talking about this. It's it's not
because there's one person who had whatever was going on
(31:03):
through his mind. He had these ideas and then went
enacted on them, which is there are two separate sets
of circumstances, right, having some weird ideas and then taking
the actions on those ideas. The thing we're talking about
here is the rhetoric which is surrounding this person in
these actions.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
Oh oh, and this also, by the way, the Federal
Plaza that we're talking about, it is it does have
a bunch of clients. They're not all Uncle Sam outfits.
It's like any other big building in a city that
isn't the long lines building. One of those clients, though,
is the Department of Homeland Security. Well, and Matt, if
(31:43):
I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
This also comes on the heels of some pretty fiery
rhetoric from Stephen Miller about classifying political opposition as domestic terror.
So it seems like this could be just to kick
in the pants that kind of talk would need.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
This is precisely why we're talking about it, because this
person is being described as a quote, anti government extremist. Okay,
let's think about that phrase. What does that mean? An
anti government extremist?
Speaker 4 (32:17):
So antifa is how they would refer to them, even
more pejoratively.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Short and anti fascist. Right, that's one concept being against
one thing, but now this is anti government, right. The
Department of Homeland Security has described him as anti immigration
and customs enforcement rioter. Interesting we've heard I saw that.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
That was so weird because rioting is a group action,
and as a group act, what data do we have
to back this up? This does to me seem like maybe.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
A mentally unwell individual acting in isolation.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Well, this is a veteran, you know, an American veteran
being described as an anti American, anti government extremist. The
reason why it bothers me a lot, guys, is because
especially when you're bringing rioter in there, which is a
pretty loaded term that we've seen used against a lot
(33:17):
of different groups of people, right, the different rioter, looter,
these kinds of words that get thrown around Franklin, HM, extremist, terrorists,
all of these things. It's just it's worrying me in
particular because we we did see some some very recent
words from that Stephen Miller thing character whatever he is.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
That entity, Yes, entity is quite right.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
And you know, and I don't mean that to I'm
not trying to offend anybody. This is my personal opinion
of a human being in the words that come out
of their mouth. It's just it's.
Speaker 4 (33:58):
Did you see what he said about describing people that
participated in these things as being deformed?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
I didn't see that he did say that.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
And that's you know, a furthering of othering, of creating
a language around these are our enemies and you can
eventually just boil it down to anyone who disagrees with us.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yeah, and we're talking about the United States. Former soldier
who served from two thousand and one to two thousand
and five worked as a mechanic on patriot missile systems
who just did something terrible, right, set a fire public
in a public area that could have harmed a lot
of people. And he had a lot of weapons with
him that could have potentially harmed people, right, and was
(34:39):
taking erratic actions that should not have been taken.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
It.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
But then you're you're somehow creating something much larger out
of that, right, and you're potentially weaponizing the concepts there
and the actions for other things, which I just I
don't know, take issue with me because I'm worried that
it's going to get aimed in other ways really soon.
In the rhetoric being talked about, Ben, as you said
about the elections coming up and some of the rhetoric
(35:10):
that we're hearing around that, it's all starting to snowball
in a way that is uncomfortable.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah, we call it. We'll introduce you to it if
you haven't heard it in our previous episodes or the
work of our colleague Greg Stoker. This is what we
call forever war doctrine. So all of the egregious illegal
war crime stuff that's happening in a world awade, no
matter whom you align with politically, you have to realize
(35:40):
that a lot of that is a laboratory. It's a
laboratory wherein tactics are perfected that will inevitably be applied
to you. History is very clear on this absolutely.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
That being said, it also does feel like there's a
certain amount of overplaying of hands here. And I'm not
saying that that he can't declare some state of emergency
and steal the elections, or that you know they can't start.
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I mean, we've seen it historically, it has happened.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
We would like to think that we've learned from the
past enough that this wouldn't happen again, but we sure
are seeing signposts of the past and echoes of the
past and this kind of behavior towards citizens. I just
would like to think that that something's in place to
keep it from going as badly.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
As it's gone in previous versions of this.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
I don't know, but I can't lose sleep every night
of my life worrying that they're coming for me in
my family, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
I don't know. It's hard.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Here's the situation I think we find ourselves in. There
are three official branches of the United States government. One
of them is in control by a group of people that,
you know, we'll say things the way they've been seeing them,
and paint them the way they've been painting them, and
pit everybody against each other for what appears to be
(37:04):
power and money grabs along the way. And it's pretty
easy to see that if you open your eyes and
look at it. We've got another branch of that government
that is pretty much controlled by a majority. And then
we have another branch of government that is pretty much
controlled by a majority that are all that same group.
And there's this thing, this fourth branch, as a mortal
(37:26):
technique would call it, or a fourth estate as American
parlance would call it, that we can hopefully count on
to at least show us the truth. Immortal technique would
disagree with that concept. The press, I mean the press.
So here's the other thing that's happening. AP News written
(37:47):
by Eric Tucker and Joscelyn Novek, July twenty first, twenty
twenty six, officials sought phone records of New York Times
journalists and their relatives in an effort to unmasked sources.
I'm going to read a tiny bit here just so
we understand and President Donald Trump's administration sought phone records
of several New York Times journalists and even those of
some of their relatives. According to Emotion unsealed Monday, that
(38:10):
is this past Monday's record on Wednesday, July twenty second.
This is an unusually aggressive attempt to unmask the confidential
sources of reporters who wrote about the president's Katari gifted
Air Force one jet. The put I'm just gonna keep
going just for a second.
Speaker 4 (38:27):
By the way, isn't even possible to use because it's
too it's too much work to get it cleared. I
believe that's the latest news. Sorry, mad didn't I just
remember reading that yesterday.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Wait, I don't have to go into too much more.
You can read it if you want to.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
The government itself is stating that the reporters themselves, the journalists,
the ones part of that fourth estate slash branch, are
not the targets. The targets are the people who are
leaking classified information to the fourth Branch.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Which would be technically breaking the law law for those leakers. However,
just like democracy, and I don't want to sound like
a broken record, journalism is heavily imperiled right now, and
we're not too far away. We're like one coarse but
hair away from the current administration in the US and
(39:21):
across other countries from it's we're on the eve of destruction,
such that powerful people in government will now start calling
reporters anti government, extremists, will start calling them rioters, not
because they physically showed up somewhere, but because they reported
a truth the rulers didn't care for.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Well, I mean, and again not to be too hyperbolic,
and I know this has almost become cliche, but not
likening the current administration to the Nazis per se, but
their historical similarities, and one of them is the notion
of the Lugan press, which was the lying media, the
lying press, and the idea of to demonize that fourth
of state and discredit them as much as possible and
(40:05):
make it really difficult for them to do their job.
That's totally what's happening right now. And I could also
argue that that is a sign that they're scared of them,
so you could look at that as a positive in
some ways.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
And so far they haven't.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Seemed to be able to dismantle that a state yet
and we are still getting big information dumps, and it
does seem like this administration is a leaking like a
sieve because people within it are actively trying to work
against its interests, which is a sign of, you know,
the center cannot hold.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
It's a it's an attempt to silence those that would
speak out against those who are abusing power. Just got
to say it. That's what it is. Folks that are
abusing power, and they don't like it when you call
them out on that. Here's a last little quote here
from that AP News article, and I believe this is
from a This is a motion that was filed by
(40:57):
The Times. Quote to the subpoena to seek records beginning
on January first, twenty twenty six, long before the events
that are purportedly the basis for the department's investigation. That
timeframe strongly suggests that the department is using this investigation
not to focus on any purported concerns arising from the
(41:18):
July eighth and ninth articles, but instead to forage for
information about the journalists' source relationships. More broadly, who's talking
to the journalists about the dirt that we're doing. Let's
find out and what was that.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
I don't want to. I don't want to allege that
anyone would get taken out, but it makes you nervous
that maybe it could happen. All Right, that's it for
this segment. We'll be right back after some corporate sponsors.
Speaker 3 (41:53):
Assuming we're still here. We returned with today's last goal listener.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
Male, We are the We did survive, We did make
it through the ad break. Guys is maybe a couple
of days old from when we sit and record this,
and we have talked about this individual's legal issues in
the past. But Andrew Tate, the manosphere influencer and quite
the mentor of young Baron Trump, and his brother Tristan
(42:28):
Tate were arrested in Miami to be extradited to the
UK on thirty eight new charges including sexual exploitation, facilitating trafficking,
offenses relating to indecent child abuse.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Images, and many, many, many more.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
You know, it's this is a person who these types
of allegations have followed around for many, many years. The
reports of you know, partners who's had in the past
of him, you know, like choking and doing all sorts
of unwelcomed violent acts, and it would appear that Donald Trump,
despite the coziness of Tate and his brother with young Baron,
(43:15):
is not going to block that extradition.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
So that's part of the news.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
The other part of the news is that he and
his brother were arrested with the most dapper outfits that
I think I have ever seen Andrew Tate. Like the
memes are just righting themselves. Andrew Tate was wearing like
what looks to be like a button down like Perry
Winkle blouse and capri pants and sockless kind of loafers.
(43:42):
He's being described as looking like a divorced auntie. And
his brother is like fully kind of suited up and
also wearing some kind of wingtip type shoes. But the
Andrew Tate outfit is really what's kind of got the
Internet going a bit.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Nuts with some folks on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
I just had Andrew and Tristan Tate arrested in Miami
for wearing these outfits. Andrew Tait is so masculine. All
young men should listen to everything. This guy in the
purple shirt, skin tight caprepants and silver slippers says, and yeah,
it goes on. Like I said, it's it's the stuff
of internet. Red meat, So you do love to see it.
(44:22):
Hopefully these charges will stick, and it is kind of
fun to see it. Dude that is so seemingly reliant
on being seen as the most alpha dog in the
room getting kind of clown for looking like a bit
of a dandy boy. Not to say that anyone shouldn't
be able to wear whatever clothes they want, but when
you're putting yourself out there is mister tough guy and
(44:43):
then you're wearing silk blouses and tight caprepants, it's you know,
it's kind of funny, kind of poetic justice.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
The things that he has been wanted for and arrested
for unreal, just pretty.
Speaker 3 (45:00):
Heinous, and and for it to be.
Speaker 4 (45:04):
I mean, it's like, okay that the son of the
President of the United States thinks this guy rules.
Speaker 3 (45:11):
It just really speaks to that, you know.
Speaker 4 (45:13):
And I mean, we've got UFC fights on the on
the White House lawn, and we've got domestic violence abuse
allegations very credible against folks like Connor McGregor, you know,
the guy who won that fights, spreading these anti trans messages,
you know, and conspiracy theory rumors about Michelle Obama.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
I mean, it's just this is the kind.
Speaker 4 (45:32):
Of stuff, this whole manisphere thing, I think it really
represents kind of like a rot, you know, that is it.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
Is starting to creep.
Speaker 4 (45:40):
I mean, it's been creeping to the surface for years now,
but it's just it's it's so mainstreamed that it's almost unremarkable.
And then when you see someone like this getting taken
the task and this level of severity to the charges,
you do hope that maybe there will be a reckoning.
But I don't know, what do you think, Ben, You
don't even know it's Epstein class type stuff. If those
(46:04):
allegations haven't stuck and created an outrage, like what will
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (46:09):
Yeah, sorry, guys, I'm laying back a little bit on
this one, just for since you know, tracking tape for
a long time. Just the like the Epstein stuff, the
heinous nature of the grimes and the accusations, and the
the rot that wormed its way into the apple of
the zeitgeist. It's it's very disturbing to me. I know
(46:32):
it's very disturbing to all of us, but I take
the activities of creatures like this very personally. It's very
upsetting and and I'm using the word creatures here, even
though not all of these allegations or accusations have been
proven in court, if only because there are so very many,
(46:54):
we have to we have to realize that there is
a new sphere of social dynamic and interaction and by
a large human society, perhaps even human brains are not
prepared this. There's going to be another date and they're
going to get bigger and bigger, and one of them
(47:15):
eventually will attain a position of power actual, not just
influencer stuff, but government power, corporate power. Right.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
So that's the degree of closeness between the son of
the president and this man and his ideologies. I mean
the fact that he found that to be enticing.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
And this is.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Someone that is utterly the right age to be set
up to be, you know, significantly powerful person. Depending on
the way political winds blow, could be the kind of
young man that grows up to be the even worse
version of what we're seeing, who has been raised in
this kind of ideology.
Speaker 2 (47:54):
You know, speaking of fathers and sons, do you guys
know anything about Emery Andrew Tate the Third's father.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
Dude named Emery Tate junior. He is a master chess player,
and and it seems to be an incredible human who
did divorce young Andrew's mom in the nineties and nobody
knows their personal life but them. But this guy was
(48:26):
like honored when he passed because of some of the
strides he took as the man who he was, and
how you know, amazing he was at the game of chess. It's,
I don't know, weird. It was weird. It makes me sad,
It makes me.
Speaker 3 (48:42):
The diversion from in that respect, you know, it just.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
Seemed yeah, anyway, I I don't know what to say
about it. Besides it, you wish for the best, you know,
for a better version of perhaps yourself or the thing
that makes up you when you have a child. But
it sucks that that that my free cams is the
way Andrew decided to go.
Speaker 4 (49:09):
Indeed, one more slightly Trump related thing, I'm sure you
guys saw the president kind of I don't know, somewhat
bum rushing his way onto the stage at the World
Cup of Victory kind of photo op and then sort
of being you know, kind of gently ushered off stage
by the head of FIFA, the president, Gianni Infantino. It
(49:33):
would appear that this was not particularly welcome by the team,
the Spanish team that won. A lot of folks were
seen kind of snubbing the president and not shaking his hand.
And then the photos that were ultimately published but by
FIFA and specifically by Spain, there was a lot of
talk on the internet that they had quote photoshopped Trump
out and did find a fact check on that on
(49:57):
a website called amp dot dw dot com, sort of
a Snopes situation. It would appear that that is not
in fact entirely true. It was more an issue of
cropping and a choosing of the angle. But there definitely
is an image where it looks like when you ab
Ith Infantino would have been on the left side and
(50:19):
then Trump would have been on the right side, and
Trump is nowhere to be seen.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
But he was there the whole time. But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
This is another example of finding it fascinating how much
this dude just kind of needs to elbow his way
into the spotlight.
Speaker 3 (50:32):
I mean, especially American service members are dying in the
Middle East, for sure, Is that the time to go
to a sports game? No?
Speaker 2 (50:40):
No, it's sure, well hold on, no, wel you shared,
what is this link to.
Speaker 3 (50:47):
D W Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah, yeah, that's check with the secondary photo that shows
where how it potentially is cropped. And it does look
legit the thing you're talking about, the way it's potentially
cropped there. But the president is facing a completely different
direction than everybody else in the photo.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Yeah, he's being led away or they're trying.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
To get him off right, But also he does has
the appearance at times of just being bewildered and not
quite knowing.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
Where he's at.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
He's there like a child who wanders in the middle
of a movie to quit the Big Lebowski.
Speaker 2 (51:20):
Like perhaps off screen there's somebody beckoning to him to
you know, okay, we're done.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
Well, it would appear that the picture that we're seeing
the overhead view of he's just far enough away to
not make it into the edge of the photo, but
he hung out there as long as he possibly, just
kind of clapping and looking around. And you know, there's
a combination of it being like an act of vanity
and also a bit of an actor just not reading
the room, and potentially a little bit of you know,
(51:47):
evidence of sundowning. So that's that it would appear that
it's not in fact the case that he was photoshopped
out that wasn't required, but he certainly was not featured
in the publication of these images.
Speaker 3 (52:02):
And I haven't confirmed this, but I do.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
I've seen it reported that he wasn't happy about that.
If you can imagine mm hmm, which I think it doesn't,
it's not much of a stretch.
Speaker 3 (52:16):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
I know that Ben, you're you're probably among the three
of us the biggest Japanophile and have been to Japan
many times, and we've often talked about their vending machine
culture and you know, gotcha Pong machines and all of
that stuff, and how they're so miles ahead technologically and
just in the way they integrate a lot of things
into their society.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
What is gotcha pong?
Speaker 3 (52:39):
It's toys and little little balls, little bubbles.
Speaker 4 (52:41):
Okay, yeah, but it's much more robust than say the
kinds of coin operated things you'd see in America in
a in a grocery store or like a you know,
mini golf kind of place.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
There's a whole culture around it. There are whole stores
that just have rows and rows and.
Speaker 4 (52:56):
Stacks and stacks of these things, and you can anything,
you can imagine any any popular you know type intellectual
property can be represented in these things, and they're also
typically higher quality, wouldn't you say, ben than kinds of
little rubber balls.
Speaker 3 (53:09):
And things we would see over here. Yeah, it's very
common in Japanese cities of all shapes and sizes to
see like Noel is describing gatchapon stores, think of them
like twenty four hour laundromats. They often won't have a staff.
It's just a little, little or very large room where
(53:33):
you have the right amount again and you can get
like fully articulated action figures. People chase and collect the sets.
It's also a very like if you, like us, are
traveling back back to Japan or East Asia in the
humid summer months, that you're going to be grateful for
(53:54):
those gadgepon stores because they have air conditioning sometimes and
you don't have to buy anything ooh it.
Speaker 2 (54:01):
So it's less of a store more of like an
arcade situation, very.
Speaker 3 (54:05):
Much arcade machines. Yeah, in front of Tombani's convenience stores,
they're everywhere, like bubblegum machines used to be in a
certain age in the United States.
Speaker 4 (54:16):
Or think of like the old timey automats you know
of the fifties, in the forties and fifties here in
the United States, but much more robust than you can
get anything you could possibly imagine, as is also the case,
so the gotcha pungks would be more like little trinkets
and toys. The vending machines you can get anything from
really really high quality sandwiches and drinks and anything you
(54:37):
can think of. They also have whatever you want. They
also have really good systems of like I don't know,
I saw this recently, Ben, there are apps you can
get and they're all connected to these machines and they
will reward you with credits depending on how many steps
you walk in.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
A day, right, yes, yes, are yeah.
Speaker 4 (54:54):
So there's all these crazy little integrations of this technology
into their society that we just couldn't even imagine over here.
And it's wild and I'm excited to experience it with
my family in November. But to that point then, about
air conditioning. One thing that we in Japan have in
common is summers are getting hotter and hotter. So that
(55:15):
same kind of industrious innovation, the attitude that goes into
the gotchapam machines and all of these vending machines being
able to have un you know, staffed kind of opportunities
like that all throughout the city. They are expanding that
to personalized air conditioning. Japan now has human refrigerators that
(55:38):
are inspired by vending machines, and so as the summers
in Japan are becoming increasingly hotter, as I was saying,
companies are thinking of ways to help individuals deal with
that heat. One company has released a product that they
describe as a human refrigerator called the dough Human Box.
It is a one person cooling booth that looks like
a giant refrigerator and its designed specifically to cool the
(56:02):
human body. They were developed by a Japanese refrigeration and
vending machine company because it's got to think about it,
the refrigeration is a huge aspect of these machines. They
are called SDRs, and they're being sold by an industrial
equipment supplier called Trusco Nakayama, and it seems like they're
doing quite well. You know, they maintain an interior temperature
(56:23):
of fifteen degrees celsius, so it's already cool from the
moment you step in the side, but then when you
sit on this chair that's been pre chilled to around
five degrees celsius. It starts to blow air on your head,
neck and shoulders and instantly surrounds your body with cool air.
(56:44):
And then, of course, as we've talked about recently, I
don't remember if it was on this one been a
Ridiculous History, but the public restaurant, No, it was on
Ridiculous History. We did an episode about public toilets. These
machines are also self sanitizing.
Speaker 2 (56:57):
Dude, pretty cool. It looks crazy right then, and the
hearing it just if you heard the word the human refrigerator,
and then you see the picture and you're like, what
what what are we doing here?
Speaker 3 (57:09):
I thought we are we talking about wrestlers.
Speaker 2 (57:12):
But my god, the implications of having these on work
sites like construction sites anywhere where somebody is outside doing
exhaustive labor like this could be a game changer.
Speaker 3 (57:22):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (57:22):
One of the comments on this the page is on
Japan today that I was looking at was this could
help save lives.
Speaker 3 (57:27):
Yeah, very much so. And in a heat wave.
Speaker 4 (57:29):
And another thing, ben as as we've already kind of
hinted at, these machines are very affordable and they are
like for everybody really, for construction sites, for example, folks
that are out there doing heavy labor in extreme heat,
dressed in like heavy clothing. This could change the elderly.
(57:50):
The elderly to your point, game changer. Let's see. I
did see specifically a discussion about that very aspect of it.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
Since they're one point five million yen.
Speaker 3 (58:04):
One point five million yen currently is a little bit
more than nine thousand US dollars, So we're talking per
I believe there, Matt. We're talking Uh, one point five
million yen is the per unit price to create one,
not to use one. So how are you? Are you
(58:24):
ten dollars?
Speaker 4 (58:27):
So I am also kind of maybe misunderstanding another aspect
of this. I don't know that these are just out
in the world like vending machines, though I would I
could see how that would be the next step.
Speaker 3 (58:41):
Yeah, they're going to be more common, I think so.
Speaker 4 (58:44):
I think the idea and the way this is being
written about currently is that companies might be buying these,
like construction companies might might have these on site like
porta potties. But I could also see a world we're
having these out available in the same plausas as the
vending machines.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
Are on every street corner.
Speaker 4 (59:02):
Would be that aspect that could make it life saving
for perhaps unhoused people or you know, people that are,
like you said, the elderly.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
Some people might go in just in case the human
refrigerator has a trash can. You're going to be tripped
out when.
Speaker 4 (59:22):
I did hear that there's no public trash cans? Yeah,
just yeah, people are expected to carry their trash.
Speaker 3 (59:27):
With them and bring it out. Yes, yeah, it's mynerstery
clean outside of like shouldn't you gou.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Why not just start into a toilet, a trash can,
and a human cooler.
Speaker 3 (59:38):
You know what? Hey, why not just make it a
small house of people who need a place to live.
And they didn't call us for the uh for ideas,
or maybe they did. There was a language barrier.
Speaker 2 (59:50):
It just like reclines back.
Speaker 3 (59:52):
Yeah, I mean this is the country that invented capsule hotels, right, yeah,
which we've all enjoyed from time to time.
Speaker 4 (01:00:00):
Guys, just to wrap this up the way they put
it in this Japan Today piece, just to sum up
kind of what we were saying, though currently aimed primarily
at businesses and organizations rather than home users. If Japan's
summer temperatures continue to rise, we may soon see the
human refrigerator becoming a more common fixture in public spaces
and perhaps one day be as common as a Japanese
(01:00:20):
vending machine.
Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
So there you go.
Speaker 4 (01:00:21):
That's the idea for the future of these things. They
are also on wheels, so they're meant to be mobile.
They're meant to be deployed to these construction sites or
various you know, I could see them perhaps, you know,
in hospitals, maybe concerts, yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Yeah, amusement parks. I mean. Also, we got to keep
in mind, folks, we are we don't get to say
this too often, but we are a bit spoiled here
in the United States. A lot of places European countries
and Japan included, don't have the same ubiquity of air conditioning,
so that makes this doubly important. It's a good point.
(01:00:57):
So is that the case bend.
Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
There's not a it's not as common in Japan to
have central air as it is in the States.
Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
It's not as common. No, but that's that's that we're
not casting aspersion.
Speaker 4 (01:01:09):
It's same in same in New York obviously, But like
you would think. Also, perhaps it makes sense too because
so many of the in the cities, at least in Japan,
the apartments are very small, right.
Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
Yeah. It also you know, it's it's a weird, uh
disparity because the United States has a cartoonish amount of
air conditioning, so we look kind of crazy when people
come to visit this country. Also, thanks for coming. Yeah, welcome,
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Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
No, and I had one that I'll I'll leave for
another time and just involves a pilot program of a
robot humanoid.
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