January 26, 2026 • 62 mins
A scandal rocks Europe as an international group of nuns is exposed as a secret Russian spy ring. You can pay a million dollars for a hotel on the moon. Farts might save you from Alzheimer’s, and cows may be the newest confirmed non-human tool users. The Bank of England is worried about aliens. All this and more in this week’s strange news segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is
riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Nol.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They call me Ben.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
We're joined as always with our super producer Dylan the
Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you are you. You are here.
That makes this the stuff they don't want you to
know around the world. Folks, Welcome to Monday, January twenty
sixth by the Curtain. We're recording on Wednesday, January twenty first,
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and we couldn't be more excited to hang out with
you guys. One of my favorite things, and I hope
it's all of our favorite things. Right before we start
rolling on strange news or listener mail, is just talking
through different stuff that we might or might not cover.
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I don't know if you guys have heard about this week.
We've got a lot of serious stuff, obviously because the
world is burning down. But did you guys hear about
that game stop hack that just got game? Oh yeah, okay,
so this is this is so tough. This is a
throwaway mentioned, but recently we learned that a guy figured
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out an infinite glitch to get money from GameStop.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Okay, giving a little back to the community. I guess right,
game Stop after that whole meme stock situation that they created.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yes, did you guys ever mess with game Stop? I
feel like a lot of us did.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well. Sure, you know, it's one of those things. I
think I look at it more as a browsing store
than a store I actually spend money. I do like
to take a little lap through the game Stop, which
takes all of thirty seconds, because they're, you know, usually
pretty tolla.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
What about you, met?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh yeah, I'm all about this game Stop, game Stop,
game stock, all the things I love games. I'm reading
about this right now.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Ben, Yes, this is insane, so okay, yeah, this is weird.
All right, we'll go to dexter Toe by Michael william
is the writer for this when this came out, actually
this was published today as we're recording, a YouTuber has
figured out an infinite money glitch. You can buy a
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switch to and return it to get even more money back.
A lot of asterisks here. There's a guy named rjc Media.
What he would do is he'd buy the switch to
and then when he purchased a pre owned a used game,
like everybody does, game stop, he'd he'd braid it back.
He trade the switch to. He just bought back with
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the used game, and he paid four hundred and fifteen
dollars for the console. So how much money did he
make in the heist?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Well, he.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
He made about thirty bucks each time, because.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
He's been doing times, you know, and hundreds.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, that's the craziest thing.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It seems like a lot of effort for not very
much return. But exactly I assume if it's in the
news that they clocked it.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Eventually, Jake closed it down because his video exposed the
secret to getting thirty getting over thirty dollars per time,
and it does seem it does seem a little bit
too much work for thirty bucks. But also I think
it reminds a lot of us gamers in the crowd
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of the infinite grind to increase your stats by small increments.
So if it was a video game, he would never
leave the game stop until he had one thousand dollars, right, he.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Would just like farming for gear or like ruins or whatever,
you know, in an Elden ring.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
He would just buy the same switch too, is what
I'm saying. At the store.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, yeah, No. A buddy of mine figured out a
similar glitch with meat at Kroger. If you can find
out that they have weighed something incorrectly, that then you
can get some kind of crazy like deal on a
giant like side of beef. If you point it out
to them and talk to the manager, then they'll like
give it to you and you can repeat this. But
apparently they clocked him doing it at a couple of
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different locations and they shut that down too.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So just walking around it with a giant I don't
know what. What does he got to like.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
You know, but then he's having he was like a
London broiled.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, but he's got to have a way to weigh it.
I guess you can tell you to one of those
They have those things in the produce section where you
can weigh things.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It's interesting, you know, I think it's at the meat counter.
And if it's like you know, it's tagged a certain way,
and then you call them out on it and they
weigh it and it's shown to be inaccurate, then they
have to give it to you for a cert. I
don't remember the details exactly neat grift y'all, but it
just mind.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yes, it's like the old airline miles grift or the
getting a jet through Pepsi through Pepsi groupons. Well, we
mentioned that we mentioned this game stop ice because there
is a parable here. It is hilarious, but there's also
a parable. If you want to keep a little grift going,
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maybe don't make a YouTube video about it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
But well, one could also argue that the YouTube video
was the end result that was these sots.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It is all for clicks, right, Yeah. What's good to
say is I would imagine that the ad revenue he's
made off that YouTube video is hopefully way more than
thirty dollars a time doing a street level switch griftsrifts.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah. Oh, I love street level switch Grifts and I
also want We're gonna get to butt Science, which our
lovely super producer pointed out is the greatest album by
Dell the Funky Homo Sapien, and also Grift, which is
my favorite death metal band.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, and we're also going to talk about uh, some
darker stories, some incredible science, not just with butts, but
with fool use horse. We're gonna get into some spycraft
before we do any of that. Because how about we
take a break for a word from our sponsors and
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Speaker 4 (06:59):
Okay, it finally happened. We're finally this under the category
finally happened. A group of nuns have been confirmed to
be aspir ring infiltrating Sweden working for the Kremlin.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Wow, that's some nonsense right there.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
There's a whole category of movies on Criterion right now
that's all just like weird none related crime and like
horror type movies. And this needs to eventually be made
into a movie so that it can be part of
that collection one day.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh man, this is nuts, right, So let's go to
the telegraph. We'll give you the quick skiddy here just
because we love the headline. The Church of Sweden has
found that a convent has made a covenant not with
our Lord Jesus Christ, but with powerful forces from Russia
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that want to raise money for the continuing the continuing
conflict against Ukraine. They're nicknamed Z nuns. They are in
the nuns, yes, sort of like the Z forces that
were mentioned in you know, the earlier days of the
Ukraine Russian conflict.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
This has been this has been something that the Church
of Sweden has been investigating for a while. They are
they're all coming out of Saint Elizabeth or they're associated
with the Saint Elizabeth Convent and twenty different churches in
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Sweden have been found to have sisters from this order
working in propaganda information wars. So a clarion call went
out from the Church of Sweden to all other Catholic
churches warning them about spy nuns, which is philter I will.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Watch sisters with transistors aka like they're wired. You know,
isn't that kind of dirty pool guys? You know, I
mean not that all spycraft isn't to some degree, but
like there's a certain trust that goes with nuns and
pastors and you know, priests and stuff. This idea that
you know, you're not supposed to you're supposed to be
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able to trust them implicitly, and like I mean, I
guess it's brilliant grift if you think about it.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, especially when especially in areas that are less secular
and during times when religion was you know, no value
judgment here, but religion was a much more important part
of the average person's life. It's funny. There's a quote
from a guy named Rector Jermo who said he clocked
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it as soon as he knew the convent was from
Belarus because they're a key ally of Russia for now.
And he has this quote that stood out to me,
and I think I'll stand out to all of us.
He says, I'm old enough to remember when ministers came
from the German Democratic Republic sovietyist Germany. If three game
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two would be for real and one would be a
spy for the Stasi, the secret police of.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, been all up in the Stasi files recently for
this Cold War podcast then I'm working on. I think
what I was getting at too, is like, can you
imagine if like a priest was gathering intel during confessions?
You know, That's what I happened, Like dirty Pool, it
just seems like not fair play, but again, spycraft ism
fair play.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I mean, think about the rat Line programs which exfiltrated
Nazi officers en masse from war torn Europe to South
America with the direct assistance of the Catholic Church. They
can go places ordinary institutions cannot go. They can do
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things ordinary institutions cannot do.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Isn't there some things out in the world are treated
with a certain kind of difference and respect, And also
they're just you never really suspect them of anything but
being sisters of mercy.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Wasn't there something? Guys? Maybe I'm misremembering this. I feel
like there was some plan to use houses of worship
in an emergency situation, like a continuity of government kind
of thing, where the churches were used or could be
used as both sites where people could gather, but also
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for information dissemination and gathering. Maybe I'm wrong. I feel
like maybe that's some fictional world. Do you remember, missus Davis.
It's a show we talked about a while ago about
a nun who was a part of some secret society
covenant that was also like their spies and all this
other stuff. I think I'm mixing a bunch of fictional
and real world things.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I vaguely remember it, and you're right on your right
in terms of dissemination of information, right and functioning as
safe harbors for all kinds of things, right. I mean,
not just Nazi forces in post World War two, but
also you know, people historically who have been persecuted minorities.
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We're not in any way going to talk about the
many imperfections of the Catholic Church and the many cover
ups that have occurred through all sorts of religious organizations.
But the headline alone pro buten spy nuns infiltrating Sweden.
It's just nuts because it shows us the power of
these clandestine organizations. And what they were doing is they
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were taking up collections for charity. But the charity wasn't
going to the you know, to the church that they
were working with. It wasn't going to Saint Elizabeth. They
were washing the money and it was going to the
Russian propaganda info war kind of stuff about Ukraine and
the narrative there, and it was also going to directly
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support Russian actions against Ukraine. So, you know, we have
to be honest with you folks. You can ask if
you see a religious figure acting shady, you can ask
them if they're a spy, but they're under no legal
obligation to tell.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You for sure. This reminds me of another story that
I'm actually looking into Snopes investigation of it, trying to
decide whether this is in fact accurate or not. And
it doesn't seem like they've come down one side or another.
But there was a report that French intelligence services were
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feeding the US phony intel to see if about Ukraine,
to see if they leaked it we leaked it to Russia.
And there was an interview with a former intelligence officer
at the director at General for External Security, which is
the foreign intelligence agency of France, without citing any sources,
saying that Ukrainian intelligence officials suspected that the US had
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leaked info to Russia, causing you craning to stop sharing
intel with the US.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And then in that I clocked that as well. It
still hasn't been verified, of course, But then the the
interesting thing there is the argument that Russian state supported
internet trolls got a hold of the narrative and spun its.
It's like trying to differentiate AI from real footage, which
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we're talking about a little off air. The fog of
info war is thick as peace distrust serious.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
What we see with our eyes has kind of broken
our brains not to mention the ongoing disinfo war is
just of the Internet and the trolls of it all.
It's really hard to know that what you're seeing or
reading or hearing is true.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah, these days, and let's stay in Europe, you guys.
There's one thing that is going to be fascinating for
all of our fellow conspiracy realists who enjoyed our episodes
about underground and city right and underground civilizations. Get this.
Switzerland has apparently excavated a second country beneath the Alps.
(15:09):
We're talking more than one thousand, four hundred tunnels, two
thousand clicks beneath the rock. And they're they're doing this
to change the climate. What it's It's nuts. Have you
guys been to Switzerland? No, no, e, all right, I
putting it on our list.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I was close though, you know, I was in a
Lake Constance in Germany, which is right across from Switzerland.
In fact, they even take Swiss francs to pay for
like you know, touristy knick knacks. It's that close.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I think I've I think I've been to Geneva and
was startled by the to the convention Sandwich yeah, they're
always a convention. This is crazy because Switzerland has a
pretty extensive tunnel network that I'd love to explore when
we take your group, their rail tunnels under the Alps,
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tunnels on national highways, hidden reservoirs for water and power infrastructure.
The underground network rivals major urban transport systems. It's it's
too much to get into for all our all all
our fellow urban design and cog nerds. Honestly, government, yeah,
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for sure, And we just want you to know this
is really This quick mention is a clarion call to
anybody who will help us out by telling us about
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Speaker 3 (16:46):
But I'm just gonna add it's another thing that'd be
fun to explore some more underground cities. Maybe do a
part two, make that a series. I recently heard that
Las Vegas has an extensive network of underground tunnels, like
a whole city beneath the city where there's a whole
community of of you know, unhoused folks that make their homes.
Not to mention some of the abandoned subway tunnels of
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New York City. There's a really great documentary about that
called I Think Dark Days, about like urban spelunkers going
down and like checking out some of these folks that
tag that like to have a graffiti scene under there.
I think it'd be cool to do some more yeah
literally figuratively of underground World.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yes, so say we all will do a second part
of that series. And uh, there's a tragedy that occurs
when those underground dwellings in Vegas get flooded. There's some
excellent investigative pieces I've seen on there, and I think
a documentary as well. And before we move on and
close out the first act of our weekly Strange News segment,
We've got to give you one more banger headline for
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all our fellow UFO enthusiast. Boop boop woop woop. That
last one is like a little peanut blazer. Yeah, zizz Yeah,
here we go. Per The Independent, reported by Rebecca Tomas,
Bank of England must plan for a financial crisis triggered
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by aliens, says former policy expert.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm sorry, Kase, are we talking extraterrestrial or extra national?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Illegal extraterrestrial. We'll go to Helen McCall, who has her
bona fides. She was a senior analyst in financial security
at the UK's Central Bank. It turns out she wrote
to Andrew Bailey, the Bank of England's governor. She said, look,
if the White House ever confirms the existence of extraterrestrial life,
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we need to play it ahead. There will be financial chaos,
the government will collapse, raided, cats and dogs, dogs and
cats sleeping together. Here's a quote she reportedly said. Quote.
The United States government appears to be part way through
a multi year process to declassify and disclue information on
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the existence of a technologically advanced non human intelligence responsible
for unidentified anomalous phenomena UAPs.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Holy kripps noomalous phenomena. I've never heard the anomalist version
of that. I like it. It's fun to say. I
guess that's true. I mean, anything beyond our comprehension are
like outside of the system of government and finance and
things that could really upend stuff. I guess it's probably
smart to plan for a contingency around something like that.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah, agreed, Because contingency plans often can sound silly
until it turns out it's good to be prepared. Now
we have to ask what the level of seriousness is here,
whether it was a tongue in cheek thing. This was
reported by the Way on Sunday, January eighteenth, so still
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pretty recent. Was this a situation where somebody was just
wildly putting out the what ifs or what do we
do whens which is still you know, valid work, or
was there serious concern possibly triggered by one of our
favorite new documentaries, the Age of Disclosure. Yeah, I think
that's the reaction.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
All of the new Spielberg movies is all about disclosure.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yes, yes, I'm very excited about this.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Is that what you're talking about? Is that what it's called?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
No, it's good. This is the this is the documentary
that came out recently with all these US politicians and
thought leaders Marc le Rubio and then some other Democrats
as well.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And we're preparing to do a full episode on the
Legacy Legacy program that they talked about in that documentary.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yes, yeah, and you caught me, Matt. This is a
bit of a tease for that episode. I've just I've
startled because here's why. Even if it's just one of
those thought experiment boy scout, be prepared. What if reies.
It tells us that big financial institutions are genuinely giving
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this thought. And whenever you start messing with the money,
you've got to take things seriously.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Absolutely, we're supposed to take Mark or Rubio seriously when
he goes to other countries and has talks about what's
going to happen in their country or not going to
happen in their countries, and he's on that documentary stadium
plainly that this thing exists.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yes, he has to be on that white powder not
gonna lie. Know. If you've seen some videos of him
looking a little on the tweaky side, it's very unusual.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Maybe he's got a weird sleep schedule. I'm sure a
lot of us in the crowd tonight have been there.
Do check out the age of disclosure. We want to
hear from you, especially if you consider yourself Drew Blue
believer died in the wool, or you consider yourself a
hardcore skeptic and think this is all sound and fury
signifying nothing. But before you throw the baby out with
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cosmic bathwater, here, fellow skeptics.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Both of those things and cosmic bathwater.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Do check out the Age of Disclosure for yourself. This
is not a sponsored ad or anything. We think it's
worth watching thirty four US government insiders again, it's a
It features bipartisan conversation from officials like Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
and folks like the former Director of National Intelligence guy
(22:31):
named James Clapper.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Where is this streaming available ben The Age of Disclosure?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
We found it on Amazon actually, so.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
That I'm putting it on my list.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Oh, please do Yeah, and maybe we can hear from
James Clapper himself on a later conversation. For now, we're
going to leave it there. We're going to pause for
we're from our sponsors, and you know, we might just
sniff our butts for a second during the app break
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for our health.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, just do that and then keep doing it.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Just yeah. And the more you do it, the more
you'll remember to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
The more you eat, the more you toot, the more
you tooth, the better you feel. So smell your farts
after every meal.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
No, seriously, this isn't a joke. We're all very excited
about this.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And we're back and we did a pretty gross tease
there at the end of the last segment our apologies
or you're welcome, depending but no, it's true science, se y'all.
Science has a thing or two to say about smelling
one's own farts no longer just a euphemism for being
really into yourself, as of course beautifully lampooned on the
(23:53):
South Park episode where everyone was smelling their own farts. Guys. Okay,
I forget the dude's name. There is this YouTuber slash
Instagram guy who is a very intense kind of male
power type dude. Not that I'm into that kind of content,
but he just comes up and he's always talking about
smelling his own farts and exploring what he refers to
(24:15):
as his stink portal and all of the he's the
kind of dude that probably drinks his own pea for health,
you know. I mean, the guy's a little bit nuts,
but he's kind of captivating, and it does seem like
science says that he may be onto something regarding the
old stink portal. It does turn out that a new
study out of India, I believe, says smelling your own
(24:37):
farts could actually improve cognitive abilities and decrease the potential
for Alzheimer's and I'm reading from a source that we
all took a look at from the India Defense Review.
Sniffing your own farts could protect your brain and prevent Alzheimer's.
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No joke, science has proven it. This is by Sarah
Talby and it starts off a recent study is linked
hydrogen sulfide, the gas responsible for the smell of flatulence,
to potential protective effects against Alzheimer's disease. The research suggests
that exposure to the gas might improve brain function and
reduce cognitive decline. The findings are based on laboratory tests
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in mice and may eventually open new doors in the
treatment of age related neuro degenerative conditions. So I assume
we're talking about now we have to bottle our own
farts or convert them into some sort of injectable, because
surely there must be a better way, in a way
to get more efficacious results than just sniffing your own farts,
(25:44):
we imagine over, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Yeah, maybe that's maybe the sniffing of the fart is
the original sort of organic, holistic way to discover it.
But from the study it seems that they're Okay. I
got really excited at first because I thought it was
something about your personalized microbiome helping somehow through its literal
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loft gasing and helping your helping stymy cognitive decline. But
it looks like, at least in terms of the study
on mice, that it's more just about the substance hydrogen sulfide.
So to your point, maybe you could just make some
other medium of transmission of hydrogen sulfide right A little
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one thing that is really popular where I am right
now on the road is these these little canisters. I'm
in a place to.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Sure like a smelling salt on the scale.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Like, what's that word, insulflate, insulflate, insulfates. Yes, correct, there
are these little canisters where I'm at right now. They're
very popular because it's kind of a smelling place depending
on the season, and you'll see people walking around and
just taking one of these things and giving it a snarf,
And it really freaked me out at first because it
looks like old Victorian snuff.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Sure they're not doing poppers, ben, I.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Should ask the mill, but but maybe there's a way
to build that out with hydrogen sulfide. I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Isn't hydrogen sulfide a highly toxic gas. It's the rotten
egg smell gas, and it's the kind it is. Yeah,
you have to handle it really carefully when you're shipping
large quantities of it, let's say, in a canister or something,
because it's flammable and toxic.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
And it might not just be the sulfide itself, because
I think the study, at least one of the co authors,
who gets quoted a lot, doctor Bindu Paul, has said
hydrogen sulfide and other gaseous molecules. So it might be
more of a cocktail, right than a straight shot a
stinky egg sulfurous for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And I'm also unclear as to whether I mean, obviously
it's they're chasing headlines with the idea of smelling your
own farts, but I don't know that it has to.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Be your own, like it's not like stem cells or
something like this.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I think it can be just this this compound that
exists in farts, and I guess you know, you're certainly
not going to be smelling other people's farts. One would hope.
I'm my mistake, y'all. This study is out of Johns Hopkins,
not out of an institution in India. The head researcher
is of Indian DESSENTI what I was where I made
that mistake.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
But let's just say there was a pastor somewhere I
don't know, yeah, in some country, and he has decided
that the farting pastor his farts can heal people. Are
we saying that potentially he might be right?
Speaker 4 (28:38):
I think this is more like a broken clock is
right twice a day, a broken but farts twice a day,
you know what I mean, in the right direction. So
that's also the history of medicine. You know, a lot
of trial and error in human.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
What we're talking about over time. We're not a single
fart ain't going to cure your malady, and just like
a single cigarette isn't going to immediately give you lung cancer.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yeah, you've got to.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
It's what it comes to.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
It comes to curative flagellation. It's all about the discipline.
It's about the restauran game. It's about showing up, eating
those beans in the morning and getting into a tight
enclosed room every single day, you know what I mean,
get your gains in for sure, you.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Gotta do the work. So just to close this one out,
according to the study. This from the India Defense Review piece.
Hydrogen sulfide, the same gas responsible for the smell of farts,
could help regulate the processes that lead to cognitive decline.
This is from the associate professor and co author of
the study. Our new data firmly link aging neuro degeneration
(29:46):
and cell signaling using hydrogen sulfide and other like you said,
ben gaseous molecules within the cell. So the core of
the study focused on how introducing the substance might actually
reverse the symptoms of Alzheimer's. The results, he says, showed
that the behavioral outcomes of Alzheimer's disease could be reversed
by introducing hydrogen sulfies. So this is good news.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
This good news.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I just I mean, it's good news. I just don't
want to smell farts though.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, I think they were actually I said, you know,
I think sure, an injectable, perhaps a horse.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Pill, you know, yeah, like they were injected. And also,
we are ethically bound to point out something that comes
up a lot in these studies. Mice are great subjects
for experiments, right, if you put aside morals and concerns
for the animal's welfare. But just because something hurts or
helps a mouse does not mean it automatically will have
(30:46):
the same effect on humans. Sort of like humans love chocolate,
but dogs are going to get in trouble if they
eat it. Yeah, get real, real sick, guys.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Did you see the reports of this like purported furry
party that took place at mar A Lago?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Oh oh headline? I think, but I don't know much
else about it.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I think that is a mischaracterization.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Knowl it is okay, but you're not wrong. You're not wrong.
But it's fun. It's a lot of fun considering how
you know, remember all the talk from the right about
like litterboxes in classrooms and just sort of you know,
demonizing furries as being like sex pests or something like that. Well,
it's just it's just kind of interesting and a little
(31:35):
bit pop calling the kettle black. When you see footage
from this event where you have people in full dog
masks wearing like Victorian or I guess like kind of
Marie Antoinette era like costumes at this gala, this ball,
it's some very interesting stuff to see out of context.
(31:56):
But to your point, Matt, it is not It is
not a furry. It is, in fact a gala held
at mar A Lago thrown by the I Believe Humane Society.
It's called the Hero Dog Awards Gala, which took place
on January ninth of this year, and it involved you know,
(32:16):
obviously a high dollar plate you know, entry fee, and
the entertainment where these professional dancers kind of ballroom dancing
around the place dressed up as dogs. People are drawing
some very interesting parallels to let them eat cake kind
of talk, which obviously we know was not something that
really happened. I'm also seeing a lot of references to
(32:37):
the final Stanley Kubrick film, Eyes Wide Shut, and a
lot of conspiracy types, you know, bandying around ideas that
this is some sort of satanic blood ritual.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah, the Internet. That's why I said about eyes are
a wide shut for this, because look, yeah, man, whatever
the intention is, as noble as it may be, to
your point, no, the optics are non ideal. It's it
reminds me of for everyone anyone who got deep into
(33:09):
Roth's child lore back in the day. Uh, there were
a couple of really strange galas that that that dynasty
had where they were decked out and very eyes wide,
shutty stuff here. But I especially love your point about
about every accusation being a confession. How does that old
(33:30):
truism go or that.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm certainly seeing quite a bit of that. Lots of
memes about this, and then Gavin Newsom had a bit
of fun with that. One image that I keep seeing
pop up is that one where in the Shining they
walk in on a on a room where there's like
a dude in a dog costume doing some some naughty
stuff to another individual. Uh, and not to mention, this
(33:54):
is just one of a string of kind of oddly
ostentatious and tone deaf gala type events that are happening there,
and then soon will be happening at the White House
as well, with that insane ballroom that's under construction apparently
under budget as well. Guys, let's just go on.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I think there's I think it's an expansion subterranean of
an op center because.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
It's so big, it's such a crazy footprint that I've
never heard of any I hadn't thought about that.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
It's it's an eyeword's bread and circuses. It's look, this
is not a political statement. This is just an aesthetic statement,
it's you know what I mean. So the next question
is if they're going to knock down uh important parts
of such an historic building in the United States, Well,
(34:47):
Tom Waits would ask, what's he building in there?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Right?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
What's he building under there?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
An on site?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
You never thought about that, Ben, it's a very good point.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Data center of some sort.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, stay machine perhaps right right right back to underground
you know, dwelling. Yeah, mega bunker.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
I love that suggestion for a chapter two on underground cities.
Everybody get a bunker, guys, invite us to your bunker.
What could go wrong?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah? What if it's just a giant as your friend,
what if it's just.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
A giant uh bitcoin mining operation or something? You know
when it like I I know this administration is really
into e coins of all sorts and cryptocurrency. That it
would it would be awesome if they just built some
kind of mining operation down there.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
It'd be Yeah, it would be on brand, you know,
because that's the one that's the one residence in the
United States where law enforcement is not really going to
run at you for a suspicious electricity bill.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
It's a white house. It's true. It's expensive here, right, Uh,
No one hundred percent. Nothing more to that one. Really,
I just wanted to men that it's kind of funny
considering it's just the optics of a lot of these
events that they're throwing. Given the state of employment and
a lot of the other things that are going on
in this country, it just feels a little off. I agreed.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Maybe we should move, not just from this country. We're
gonna have an episode about how to get out of
the US how it actually works, but maybe we should
move off planet.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Man, what do you think I want to go to
the Moon stay in a giant bouncy castle, all right,
shark tank In theory, maybe one day you will be
able to a startup called grow like the battie in
Despicable Meat, which stands for Galactic Resource Utilization. Space Groove
(36:44):
Space plans to build an inflatable lunar hotel by the
year twenty thirty two. They are backed by Nvidia and
some other quite big tech concerns. They are doing this
inflatable version as like a like a test kind of thing,
or like they're sort of the pilot program before eventually
building a permanent lunar hotel using materials found on the
(37:08):
Moon's surface. Like literally fashioning and out of moon dust.
According to grow space and this is from tech round
dot co dot UK, the Lunar Hotel will be constructed
in stages. The first V one would be inflatable structure
built on Earth and transport it to the Moon in
partnership with SpaceX or a company like SpaceX. I don't
think they're direct sponsors or stakeholders in the project. The
(37:31):
inflatable structure will look to host up to four guests
for around five nights, and you could be one of
those four guests. We can reserve your spot now for
just a cool million. Actually it's the range says two
hundred and fifty thousand, two one million of the full
cost could run upwards of ten million dollars.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Oh well, that's just take it master level misleading, isn't
it guys? You know, how does it go from two
hundred and fifty to a million to what you say? Told?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Well, no, no, the two fifty to one million is your
deposit just to like you, and I imagine it's you know,
how much you got to throw down will depend on
how likely you are to get confirmed, because it would
seem like it would be like it there's only four spots.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, and I don't know what you want, you know. Also,
there are some stereotypes about very wealthy people, not to mention,
you know, perhaps smelling their own farts, maybe trying to
go down to the Titanic when the technology wasn't there
(38:39):
Are these the kind of people you would want to
be trapped with on the moon?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Is there a spa?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Do you get how there possibly could be four people? Why?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
You know, enough water on the moon?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Explosive.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
This is not only expensive, this is utterly moonshot kind
of idea, very pie in the sky they are planning
for this. It sounds like they're gonna need some of
these billionaire billionaires to drop some of those funds to
reserve their spot, to have the capital to even go
through with the project. It seems very you know, over promising,
(39:21):
under delivery.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah, that's that's something that I'm my spidery sense is tingling.
This feels like a very carefully packaged call for investment.
More than anything is correct.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Fire Festival on the Moon.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Finally, Firefest time Putin has spy nuns. We've got Firefest
on the moon. See, it's not all bad, folks.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
It's kind of the future. Finally, guys, we just need
our little flying cars.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
The Jetson's lied to us, but we.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Were promised flying cars. Instead we got cyber trucks.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I kind of want to see and this is pitch
for the anybody who's resurrecting Hanna Barbara. I kind of
want to see a gritty reboot of the Jetsons, but
I want to see the underclass, you know what I mean.
I want to see like the two Dark side of
the Jetsons.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Absolutely, they portray it as something of an idyllic, you know, utopia.
Even though George hates his job, but the whole idea
of like his job, this future job is just to
push a button, yeah, to make widgets or no sprockets,
and the future futuristic product is sprockets and cogs, which
I love. And we did recently talk about The Flintstones,
(40:36):
a really gritty reboot of The Flintstones with the brutal
reality of caveman society and like just turf wars and things,
and you know, the dinosaurs that actually don't just serve
as your garbage disposal but actually devour your family. That's
what I want to see.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the dinosas and controlled dinosaurs is weapons
of weapons of mass instruction.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
I know because even in the Flintstones live action movie,
the dinahs were all very docile and seemed to be
super into being harnessed and bent to the will of man.
I think that's how it would go down.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
I'm going through a dinosaur phase again. To guys, I
am so dinosaurs. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Can you, guys imagine going to the moon and getting
like being able to see a live performance of Halahalla
from jaw Rule.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
I can't imagine that, but I think it's because we
all have extremely beautiful, vivid imaginations. Can you imagine getting
stranded there? I mean that's why I almost I almost
didn't say invite us to your bunker on air, and
I hope I don't regret it, because I don't know
you guys opinions on group trips in general, but they
(41:48):
can be daunting. I'm more of a ghost, you know
what I mean. You've seen me I blow in, through
and out of a situation.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Well, it's nice to defer to everybody else's schedules and wishes.
It's not to do a little solo trip. And yeah,
sometimes group trips can be a lot of pressure, no
question about on the Moon. I think People's company could
wear a thin on you real quick. If you're where
are you going to go? Best of friends? It would
also truly put your friendship to the test. Yeah, where
are you going to go?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I mean, at least in Antarctica you can get mad
and put on several layers of protection and say I'm
going to go stand outside for four minutes. Four minutes outside,
it's a lot of oxygen.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Are you sure right? It feels like the set up
to some Guermo del Toro project in twenty twenty seven
or something. You know, it's just going to make a
movie about the hotel on the Moon.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
I want to go to the Moon so bad, you know.
I think it's a smart thing for science. Maybe hopefully
this company is I don't want to run us along
on this, but maybe hopefully this company is again carefully
packaging a dream to get investors such that they can
send actual scientists to the Moon to uh.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I'd like to think.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
I'd like to true that.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, sort of doubt it though, unfortunately. I just I
just feel like, you know, with all of the funding
RUG pulls into NASA and things like that and the
privatization of space travel, it just seems like it's being
sold is more of like a billionaire lark kind of
gimmick as opposed to like what it actually could mean
for humanity, or at the very least the billionaires are
(43:30):
just figuring out how they can get there and leave
everybody else behind.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
And well, that that is, that is not just a
valid point, it's pretty much an objective fact. I would
add historical precedent shows us that private industry is great
for expansion into new territories like Dutch East India. The
(43:56):
East Indies companies were you know, like the first corporations
of their kind, and they absolutely propelled European expansion. So
maybe space travel does need privatization. I've had some really
interesting talks with aerospace engineers about this, but I think
we should keep NASA. I think it's cool to have
(44:17):
the greater good of the government when it works driving
space space expansion. Now I'm derailing us. That's a different episode,
not at all.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
No, it's a valid point, and I think a perfect
way to wrap this one up. So let's take a
quick break here aware from our sponsor, and then we'll
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Hope you like us mentioning it, by the way, because
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Be doing that.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, and too bad if you don't. Ah, sorry, Okay, So,
as we said, for you, it's the twenty six. For us,
it's Wednesday, January twenty first, twenty twenty six. We mentioned
the Swiss Alps. We mentioned elaborate parties thrown by the
obscenely wealthy. I feel like, guys, we should at least
mention this year's wackado version of the emergency World Economic
Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, they're getting into comedy pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
They're getting into and literally an emergency situation where all
of Europe, all of the members of the North American
Treaty Organization came together to hopefully have some kind of
dialogue and diplomacy with the current bad guys of the world,
the United States of America. A very strange situation to
(47:11):
have the United States of America threatening to invade another
NATO country with force, especially following a very recent abduction
and hot action in Venezuela, which don't forget about that.
But we do have good news.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Saying some of this stuff might not be above board.
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
I'm just saying this is weird. It should be happening.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
I think the board applies to the game anymore. I
think we've all been watching some of the live updates.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Right, Yes, but we do we have good news from
the live updates, guys. As of this moment, the standing
President of the United States of America has announced that
he quote won't use force unquote to take control of Greenland,
you know, setting off a global conflict between the US
and NATO.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Handshakes and how Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
This comes on the heels of his of his letter
to Norway about the Peace Prize text.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
I believe the mock.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
Rolling text that he publicized and.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
In this posting screenshots of texts is like something an
angry X would do.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Yeah, it's weird. I think we all saw another another
signal that the current potus sent was stepping back a
little and say, hey, I'd be open to a ninety
nine year lease of greenland.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah. We're just hoping somehow that by some miracle, diplomacy
wins out and there's some kind of version of all
of this that calms down and reduces the chaos levels
from ninety nine point nine percent where we currently are,
to at least eighty. Let's get down to eighty percent chaos. Guys,
(48:55):
I feel like I feel like Katie all day. We'll
all feel a lot better at that point. But with
all this nuts stuff happening in the world right now,
one of the great things we can do is reflect
a little bit, and let's say, have a meal with
our loved ones. That's what I did yesterday, got on
the grill, cooked some steak, and then woke up this
(49:16):
morning and read a headline that made me regret my
decision to eat some steaks.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Is smelling your own farts?
Speaker 2 (49:23):
No, this is coming to us from science dot org.
It's all over the place. Many of the places you'll
find this are paywalld. So I head on over to
science dot org. Although it was my only free article
I guess for the day, so hopefully you can get
that one too. It's titled no bull, This Austrian cow
has learned to use tools. Hear that a cow has
(49:48):
learned to use tools?
Speaker 3 (49:50):
This holds it in its hooves.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
No, no, no, it's using its mouth much in the
same way you've probably seen a pet, a cat, a dog,
a similar animal use their mouth to pick something up
right and manipulate it a little bit. In this case,
the cow is picking up things specifically to scratch itself
in places that it cannot reach, like the utter. Oh yes, utters,
(50:16):
it's back up near the hind quarters, it's tummy. It
is very very cool. And the astonishing thing that has
been found that we're going to talk about right here
is that the cow is using different parts of the
same tool for different purposes, all for scratching, but for
scratching either sensitive areas or parts of its body that
(50:37):
require a bit more roughness. Let's get into this because
it is freaking fascinating. This is happening in Austria. There's
a baker out there who has a cow named Veronica,
and the baker noticed that when Veronica had an itch,
it would grab a stick from the ground, pick up
the stick and scratch itself. And you know, at first
(50:59):
he's just like, oh, look at that. Isn't that amusing
and interesting that the cows doing that? But then some
scientists got wind of this and they realized, oh, this
is actual. Could it be actual tool use by a bovine,
which would be unprecedented in the history of mankind. It
is not known that cows have used tools.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I guess I'd be on the same page if I
were to observe this. It just seems like not that
big a deal. But this is huge, that's insane, it
would be huge.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
The thing is it could be perhaps not tool use,
just some cow picking up a stick, right, and that's
not crazy an animal picking something up with his mouth,
as we're saying, with cats and dogs, we observe it
all the time, many different animals.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Question is whether it's intentional, right, the intent and I
love to point out the multi use.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, absolutely, So they are to qualify as tool use.
There are a couple of things you got to have.
The tool must become an extension of an animal's body.
The tool must allow the animals to do something it
wouldn't otherwise be able to do or would have great
difficulty doing. And the animal must change the orientation of
the tool to make it do its job right. So
(52:11):
these are some pretty big qualifications things that you have
to meet. And it turns out after seventy trials that
were conducted out there by a team of folks and
a postgraduate student, they realized that yes, this cow is
in fact using this tool in two different ways, for
two different reasons, or for the same reason, but in
two different applications, I suppose. And it's just astonishing, and
(52:36):
it makes you think about cows, and it made me
specific think about the steak I ate last night. Don't know,
what do you guys think?
Speaker 4 (52:43):
I got it? You know, this has long been a
fascination of mine, non human intelligence. It's what fascination I
think a lot of us in the audience Tonight's share
shout out to sci fi writer Adrian Tchaikovsky. He's got
another book coming out in his series, The Man's a Machine.
But look, we know that the more we observe animals,
(53:07):
species or genres of animals as they like to call them,
more individual animals, the more intelligent they appear to be right.
It's just the human still hasn't really defined intelligence all
the way. So for a long time scientific research was
stymied by this anthrocentric perspective. You know what you know,
(53:28):
and you don't know what you don't know, especially if
it's too different from you. We know that the octopus
is capable of tool use the COVID of course, shout
out to those guys. And we also know that there
is a stark difference between observed behavior and suspected behavior
(53:49):
because I believe Matt in articles quoting some of the
studies like the debrief, for example, they talk about the
cow's pharm or their human body, who had been noticing
this over time, right, like over a long period of time.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah, there's a statement from the postdoctorate postdoctoral student who
was performing those trials saying that he believes, at least
according to what he's been told by the baker, the
cow's caretaker, I suppose that after the mother, this cow's
mother passed away, it was believed that this was a
way to kind of self comfort, right to use the
(54:32):
scratching of a tool like this. However, there's another really
interesting possibility coming from I think it's I don't know
if it's Yon or Jan Langolin and applied ethologists at
the Research Institute for Farm Animal Biology. It was really
thought provoking to me, and I feel like it's very interesting,
(54:52):
So we'll just put it out there like this. Here's's
quoting from the article. Perhaps Veronica learned to use tools
because she was allowed to. Most farm animals live in
a relatively barren environment with no access to objects they
can manipulate. And the full quote is you can't become
a tool user if there are no tools available. That
(55:15):
makes a lot of sense, right, Yeah, don't.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
You don't have the opportunity to exercise intellect in that way.
Because this is a companion animal, not being used as
livestock or for dairy farming. This is kind of a
pet and that's a huge distinction.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, it's a cow that doesn't get milked, it's not
used for anything. It sleeps in quarters near where the
baker and you know where he lives and everything.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
Vizgar weigels, Yes, that's him.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
And again it's just just an animal allowed to roam
free and to see something on the ground and pick
it up, right, And then you imagine, especially how most
dairy cattle and cattle that are used for meat harvesting
here in the US are treated where they live, what
they get to experience on a daily basis, it's not
what Veronica gets to see into. So maybe there's just
(56:07):
a lot more observation and different living conditions for animals
to be studied in this way and see what happens,
see if they do the things the corvids do.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
I guess I keep harping on this, but I just
would not have clocked what a big deal and what
like a rare occurrence this is and what it represents
like evolutionarily. Is that what we're talking about or.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
What we don't takeaway. Yeah, we don't know how many
times something like this has happened and has not been observed, right,
So it's logically possible this has been happening, but cattle,
due to the nature of farming and domestication, haven't been
given the opportunity to exercise intellect in that way. Or
it's completely possible cattle who were existing in the past
(56:54):
right before we could film footage of them, we're doing
things like this and humans were just to into thinking
of human stuff to notice it or notice how important
it is. But to your point, no, I would argue
this is this is great scientific progress. I am prochool
used from animals. I can't wait to see, Like, what's
(57:16):
the huh, what would be the funniest or most interesting
animal to be proven to have fool use?
Speaker 3 (57:25):
Well, I think that's a question for our listeners. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Well, as of right now, it's humans, chimpanzees, and Veronica.
Those are literally the only examples of multi uses for
the single tool that exists out there.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
Really, Corvids, from what I understood, can modify tools for
different purposes, and they'll take the same artifact and change
it as needed.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
I'm not aware of that, at least that's not what
science dot org is saying in a bunch of these
other places they're saying chimpanzees are the only ones who
will use a stick that has a smaller end and
a larger end and they'll poke a hole through where
let's say a nest for where ants are or something
like that, and then flip it around and use the
small end to fish out the ants. That's again using
(58:15):
the same tool for two different purposes. And then Veronica
is using the bristles part and then the handle part
of a broom. And then humans. Obviously we we love
a multi use, right.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
We do.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Those are the only examples I've seen, and that's how
they're speaking about it, at least in Inside Out Org.
Just don't give a raccoon a Swiss army knife, good
Lord at please God, No.
Speaker 4 (58:41):
No, they're leatherman guys.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
Hold on, they will they will mug you in an
alley if they were given such.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
Yeah, New Caldoni a switchblade. New Caledonian crows are famous
for using and making tools, combining multiple items for complex task. Okay, well,
let me let me have always the studies always read
you Aly said that was true, So I mean I'm
going to have to dive into this compound tool.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
Heck yeah. And also, just the last thing we're talking about, covids.
I'd tend this to Ben on Instagram. Apparently there's some
people that are training corvids to attack ICE agents. Just
putting that out there home.
Speaker 4 (59:16):
We're talking about a weaponization of the mask and hat experiment.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
Yeah, nice sense.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
Last thing, guys, before we get out of here. From
The Guardian, Nearly all Epstein files still unreleased a month
after Congress deadline. That is one month after December nineteenth,
twenty twenty five. That was the deadline mandated by the
Epstein Files Transparency Act that the US Congress passed. The
Justice Department has still not complied with the law. At
(59:42):
last count, the DOJ website posted approximately twelve two hundred
and eighty five documents. That's around one hundred and twenty
five five hundred and seventy five pages, and they say
there's still around two million or more documents potentially responsive
to the Act in various phases of review. So again,
just a reminder today on Wednesday, January twenty first, as
(01:00:04):
we record this, the Epstein files are still locked away
and the ones that did come out have been heavily
redacted against the rules of that act, the.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Rules saying that you can't redact names exclusively to prevent embarrassment. Yes,
and it does appear that only victims' names were meant
to be redacted. But I believe there's some eagle eye,
like coffee Zilla, for example, the great investigative YouTuber, was
able to take some of these last batch and apply
some you know, like PDF filters to it or loaded
(01:00:38):
up in Acrobat Reader, and realizing that these things are
actually removable, but also realizing and going through these that
there are clearly names of co conspirators that were redacted,
and there's much that's not according to the spirit of
the law.
Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Right right, nor the letter of the law. Actually, if
we want to be a little bit pedantic about the
you know, the rule of law, which is that they
that is supposed to be happening. So my awkward English aside,
forgive me, folks still learning this tongue. We don't want
to forget about the Epstein files, and don't you forget
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about us. We'd love to hear from you. We've got
some great ideas from episodes out of this weekly Strange
News segment, especially how leaving the US works underground Cities
chapter two. Great idea, NOL, give us your ideas for
future episodes, and give us to your reactions to some
of the stories we share today. You can find us online,
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You can call us on the phone, and you can
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Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
my name is Nol.
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They call me Ben.
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That makes this the stuff they don't want you to
know around the world. Folks, Welcome to Monday, January twenty
sixth by the Curtain. We're recording on Wednesday, January twenty first,
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and we couldn't be more excited to hang out with
you guys. One of my favorite things, and I hope
it's all of our favorite things. Right before we start
rolling on strange news or listener mail, is just talking
through different stuff that we might or might not cover.
(01:16):
I don't know if you guys have heard about this week.
We've got a lot of serious stuff, obviously because the
world is burning down. But did you guys hear about
that game stop hack that just got game? Oh yeah, okay,
so this is this is so tough. This is a
throwaway mentioned, but recently we learned that a guy figured
(01:39):
out an infinite glitch to get money from GameStop.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Okay, giving a little back to the community. I guess right,
game Stop after that whole meme stock situation that they created.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yes, did you guys ever mess with game Stop? I
feel like a lot of us did.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well. Sure, you know, it's one of those things. I
think I look at it more as a browsing store
than a store I actually spend money. I do like
to take a little lap through the game Stop, which
takes all of thirty seconds, because they're, you know, usually
pretty tolla.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
What about you, met?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Oh yeah, I'm all about this game Stop, game Stop,
game stock, all the things I love games. I'm reading
about this right now.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Ben, Yes, this is insane, so okay, yeah, this is weird.
All right, we'll go to dexter Toe by Michael william
is the writer for this when this came out, actually
this was published today as we're recording, a YouTuber has
figured out an infinite money glitch. You can buy a
(02:44):
switch to and return it to get even more money back.
A lot of asterisks here. There's a guy named rjc Media.
What he would do is he'd buy the switch to
and then when he purchased a pre owned a used game,
like everybody does, game stop, he'd he'd braid it back.
He trade the switch to. He just bought back with
(03:07):
the used game, and he paid four hundred and fifteen
dollars for the console. So how much money did he
make in the heist?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Well, he.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
He made about thirty bucks each time, because.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
He's been doing times, you know, and hundreds.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, that's the craziest thing.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
It seems like a lot of effort for not very
much return. But exactly I assume if it's in the
news that they clocked it.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Eventually, Jake closed it down because his video exposed the
secret to getting thirty getting over thirty dollars per time,
and it does seem it does seem a little bit
too much work for thirty bucks. But also I think
it reminds a lot of us gamers in the crowd
(03:56):
of the infinite grind to increase your stats by small increments.
So if it was a video game, he would never
leave the game stop until he had one thousand dollars, right, he.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Would just like farming for gear or like ruins or whatever,
you know, in an Elden ring.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
He would just buy the same switch too, is what
I'm saying. At the store.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, yeah, No. A buddy of mine figured out a
similar glitch with meat at Kroger. If you can find
out that they have weighed something incorrectly, that then you
can get some kind of crazy like deal on a
giant like side of beef. If you point it out
to them and talk to the manager, then they'll like
give it to you and you can repeat this. But
apparently they clocked him doing it at a couple of
(04:42):
different locations and they shut that down too.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
So just walking around it with a giant I don't
know what. What does he got to like.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
You know, but then he's having he was like a
London broiled.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, but he's got to have a way to weigh it.
I guess you can tell you to one of those
They have those things in the produce section where you
can weigh things.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
It's interesting, you know, I think it's at the meat counter.
And if it's like you know, it's tagged a certain way,
and then you call them out on it and they
weigh it and it's shown to be inaccurate, then they
have to give it to you for a cert. I
don't remember the details exactly neat grift y'all, but it
just mind.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Yes, it's like the old airline miles grift or the
getting a jet through Pepsi through Pepsi groupons. Well, we
mentioned that we mentioned this game stop ice because there
is a parable here. It is hilarious, but there's also
a parable. If you want to keep a little grift going,
(05:38):
maybe don't make a YouTube video about it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
But well, one could also argue that the YouTube video
was the end result that was these sots.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
It is all for clicks, right, Yeah. What's good to
say is I would imagine that the ad revenue he's
made off that YouTube video is hopefully way more than
thirty dollars a time doing a street level switch griftsrifts.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah. Oh, I love street level switch Grifts and I
also want We're gonna get to butt Science, which our
lovely super producer pointed out is the greatest album by
Dell the Funky Homo Sapien, and also Grift, which is
my favorite death metal band.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, and we're also going to talk about uh, some
darker stories, some incredible science, not just with butts, but
with fool use horse. We're gonna get into some spycraft
before we do any of that. Because how about we
take a break for a word from our sponsors and
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Speaker 4 (06:59):
Okay, it finally happened. We're finally this under the category
finally happened. A group of nuns have been confirmed to
be aspir ring infiltrating Sweden working for the Kremlin.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Wow, that's some nonsense right there.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
There's a whole category of movies on Criterion right now
that's all just like weird none related crime and like
horror type movies. And this needs to eventually be made
into a movie so that it can be part of
that collection one day.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh man, this is nuts, right, So let's go to
the telegraph. We'll give you the quick skiddy here just
because we love the headline. The Church of Sweden has
found that a convent has made a covenant not with
our Lord Jesus Christ, but with powerful forces from Russia
(07:58):
that want to raise money for the continuing the continuing
conflict against Ukraine. They're nicknamed Z nuns. They are in
the nuns, yes, sort of like the Z forces that
were mentioned in you know, the earlier days of the
Ukraine Russian conflict.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
This has been this has been something that the Church
of Sweden has been investigating for a while. They are
they're all coming out of Saint Elizabeth or they're associated
with the Saint Elizabeth Convent and twenty different churches in
(08:40):
Sweden have been found to have sisters from this order
working in propaganda information wars. So a clarion call went
out from the Church of Sweden to all other Catholic
churches warning them about spy nuns, which is philter I will.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Watch sisters with transistors aka like they're wired. You know,
isn't that kind of dirty pool guys? You know, I
mean not that all spycraft isn't to some degree, but
like there's a certain trust that goes with nuns and
pastors and you know, priests and stuff. This idea that
you know, you're not supposed to you're supposed to be
(09:22):
able to trust them implicitly, and like I mean, I
guess it's brilliant grift if you think about it.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, especially when especially in areas that are less secular
and during times when religion was you know, no value
judgment here, but religion was a much more important part
of the average person's life. It's funny. There's a quote
from a guy named Rector Jermo who said he clocked
(09:50):
it as soon as he knew the convent was from
Belarus because they're a key ally of Russia for now.
And he has this quote that stood out to me,
and I think I'll stand out to all of us.
He says, I'm old enough to remember when ministers came
from the German Democratic Republic sovietyist Germany. If three game
(10:10):
two would be for real and one would be a
spy for the Stasi, the secret police of.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Yeah, been all up in the Stasi files recently for
this Cold War podcast then I'm working on. I think
what I was getting at too, is like, can you
imagine if like a priest was gathering intel during confessions?
You know, That's what I happened, Like dirty Pool, it
just seems like not fair play, but again, spycraft ism
fair play.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I mean, think about the rat Line programs which exfiltrated
Nazi officers en masse from war torn Europe to South
America with the direct assistance of the Catholic Church. They
can go places ordinary institutions cannot go. They can do
(10:57):
things ordinary institutions cannot do.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Isn't there some things out in the world are treated
with a certain kind of difference and respect, And also
they're just you never really suspect them of anything but
being sisters of mercy.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Wasn't there something? Guys? Maybe I'm misremembering this. I feel
like there was some plan to use houses of worship
in an emergency situation, like a continuity of government kind
of thing, where the churches were used or could be
used as both sites where people could gather, but also
(11:33):
for information dissemination and gathering. Maybe I'm wrong. I feel
like maybe that's some fictional world. Do you remember, missus Davis.
It's a show we talked about a while ago about
a nun who was a part of some secret society
covenant that was also like their spies and all this
other stuff. I think I'm mixing a bunch of fictional
and real world things.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I vaguely remember it, and you're right on your right
in terms of dissemination of information, right and functioning as
safe harbors for all kinds of things, right. I mean,
not just Nazi forces in post World War two, but
also you know, people historically who have been persecuted minorities.
(12:13):
We're not in any way going to talk about the
many imperfections of the Catholic Church and the many cover
ups that have occurred through all sorts of religious organizations.
But the headline alone pro buten spy nuns infiltrating Sweden.
It's just nuts because it shows us the power of
these clandestine organizations. And what they were doing is they
(12:38):
were taking up collections for charity. But the charity wasn't
going to the you know, to the church that they
were working with. It wasn't going to Saint Elizabeth. They
were washing the money and it was going to the
Russian propaganda info war kind of stuff about Ukraine and
the narrative there, and it was also going to directly
(13:00):
support Russian actions against Ukraine. So, you know, we have
to be honest with you folks. You can ask if
you see a religious figure acting shady, you can ask
them if they're a spy, but they're under no legal
obligation to tell.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You for sure. This reminds me of another story that
I'm actually looking into Snopes investigation of it, trying to
decide whether this is in fact accurate or not. And
it doesn't seem like they've come down one side or another.
But there was a report that French intelligence services were
(13:37):
feeding the US phony intel to see if about Ukraine,
to see if they leaked it we leaked it to Russia.
And there was an interview with a former intelligence officer
at the director at General for External Security, which is
the foreign intelligence agency of France, without citing any sources,
saying that Ukrainian intelligence officials suspected that the US had
(13:58):
leaked info to Russia, causing you craning to stop sharing
intel with the US.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And then in that I clocked that as well. It
still hasn't been verified, of course, But then the the
interesting thing there is the argument that Russian state supported
internet trolls got a hold of the narrative and spun its.
It's like trying to differentiate AI from real footage, which
(14:25):
we're talking about a little off air. The fog of
info war is thick as peace distrust serious.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
What we see with our eyes has kind of broken
our brains not to mention the ongoing disinfo war is
just of the Internet and the trolls of it all.
It's really hard to know that what you're seeing or
reading or hearing is true.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah, these days, and let's stay in Europe, you guys.
There's one thing that is going to be fascinating for
all of our fellow conspiracy realists who enjoyed our episodes
about underground and city right and underground civilizations. Get this.
Switzerland has apparently excavated a second country beneath the Alps.
(15:09):
We're talking more than one thousand, four hundred tunnels, two
thousand clicks beneath the rock. And they're they're doing this
to change the climate. What it's It's nuts. Have you
guys been to Switzerland? No, no, e, all right, I
putting it on our list.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
I was close though, you know, I was in a
Lake Constance in Germany, which is right across from Switzerland.
In fact, they even take Swiss francs to pay for
like you know, touristy knick knacks. It's that close.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I think I've I think I've been to Geneva and
was startled by the to the convention Sandwich yeah, they're
always a convention. This is crazy because Switzerland has a
pretty extensive tunnel network that I'd love to explore when
we take your group, their rail tunnels under the Alps,
(16:03):
tunnels on national highways, hidden reservoirs for water and power infrastructure.
The underground network rivals major urban transport systems. It's it's
too much to get into for all our all all
our fellow urban design and cog nerds. Honestly, government, yeah,
(16:27):
for sure, And we just want you to know this
is really This quick mention is a clarion call to
anybody who will help us out by telling us about
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Speaker 3 (16:46):
But I'm just gonna add it's another thing that'd be
fun to explore some more underground cities. Maybe do a
part two, make that a series. I recently heard that
Las Vegas has an extensive network of underground tunnels, like
a whole city beneath the city where there's a whole
community of of you know, unhoused folks that make their homes.
Not to mention some of the abandoned subway tunnels of
(17:07):
New York City. There's a really great documentary about that
called I Think Dark Days, about like urban spelunkers going
down and like checking out some of these folks that
tag that like to have a graffiti scene under there.
I think it'd be cool to do some more yeah
literally figuratively of underground World.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
Yes, so say we all will do a second part
of that series. And uh, there's a tragedy that occurs
when those underground dwellings in Vegas get flooded. There's some
excellent investigative pieces I've seen on there, and I think
a documentary as well. And before we move on and
close out the first act of our weekly Strange News segment,
We've got to give you one more banger headline for
(17:44):
all our fellow UFO enthusiast. Boop boop woop woop. That
last one is like a little peanut blazer. Yeah, zizz Yeah,
here we go. Per The Independent, reported by Rebecca Tomas,
Bank of England must plan for a financial crisis triggered
(18:04):
by aliens, says former policy expert.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
I'm sorry, Kase, are we talking extraterrestrial or extra national?
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Illegal extraterrestrial. We'll go to Helen McCall, who has her
bona fides. She was a senior analyst in financial security
at the UK's Central Bank. It turns out she wrote
to Andrew Bailey, the Bank of England's governor. She said, look,
if the White House ever confirms the existence of extraterrestrial life,
(18:40):
we need to play it ahead. There will be financial chaos,
the government will collapse, raided, cats and dogs, dogs and
cats sleeping together. Here's a quote she reportedly said. Quote.
The United States government appears to be part way through
a multi year process to declassify and disclue information on
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the existence of a technologically advanced non human intelligence responsible
for unidentified anomalous phenomena UAPs.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Holy kripps noomalous phenomena. I've never heard the anomalist version
of that. I like it. It's fun to say. I
guess that's true. I mean, anything beyond our comprehension are
like outside of the system of government and finance and
things that could really upend stuff. I guess it's probably
smart to plan for a contingency around something like that.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah, yeah, agreed, Because contingency plans often can sound silly
until it turns out it's good to be prepared. Now
we have to ask what the level of seriousness is here,
whether it was a tongue in cheek thing. This was
reported by the Way on Sunday, January eighteenth, so still
(19:53):
pretty recent. Was this a situation where somebody was just
wildly putting out the what ifs or what do we
do whens which is still you know, valid work, or
was there serious concern possibly triggered by one of our
favorite new documentaries, the Age of Disclosure. Yeah, I think
that's the reaction.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
All of the new Spielberg movies is all about disclosure.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
Yes, yes, I'm very excited about this.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Is that what you're talking about? Is that what it's called?
Speaker 4 (20:21):
No, it's good. This is the this is the documentary
that came out recently with all these US politicians and
thought leaders Marc le Rubio and then some other Democrats
as well.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
And we're preparing to do a full episode on the
Legacy Legacy program that they talked about in that documentary.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yes, yeah, and you caught me, Matt. This is a
bit of a tease for that episode. I've just I've
startled because here's why. Even if it's just one of
those thought experiment boy scout, be prepared. What if reies.
It tells us that big financial institutions are genuinely giving
(21:05):
this thought. And whenever you start messing with the money,
you've got to take things seriously.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Absolutely, we're supposed to take Mark or Rubio seriously when
he goes to other countries and has talks about what's
going to happen in their country or not going to
happen in their countries, and he's on that documentary stadium
plainly that this thing exists.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Yes, he has to be on that white powder not
gonna lie. Know. If you've seen some videos of him
looking a little on the tweaky side, it's very unusual.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Maybe he's got a weird sleep schedule. I'm sure a
lot of us in the crowd tonight have been there.
Do check out the age of disclosure. We want to
hear from you, especially if you consider yourself Drew Blue
believer died in the wool, or you consider yourself a
hardcore skeptic and think this is all sound and fury
signifying nothing. But before you throw the baby out with
(22:01):
cosmic bathwater, here, fellow skeptics.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Both of those things and cosmic bathwater.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
Do check out the Age of Disclosure for yourself. This
is not a sponsored ad or anything. We think it's
worth watching thirty four US government insiders again, it's a
It features bipartisan conversation from officials like Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
and folks like the former Director of National Intelligence guy
(22:31):
named James Clapper.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Where is this streaming available ben The Age of Disclosure?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
We found it on Amazon actually, so.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
That I'm putting it on my list.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Oh, please do Yeah, and maybe we can hear from
James Clapper himself on a later conversation. For now, we're
going to leave it there. We're going to pause for
we're from our sponsors, and you know, we might just
sniff our butts for a second during the app break
(23:06):
for our health.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, just do that and then keep doing it.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Just yeah. And the more you do it, the more
you'll remember to do it.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
The more you eat, the more you toot, the more
you tooth, the better you feel. So smell your farts
after every meal.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
No, seriously, this isn't a joke. We're all very excited
about this.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
And we're back and we did a pretty gross tease
there at the end of the last segment our apologies
or you're welcome, depending but no, it's true science, se y'all.
Science has a thing or two to say about smelling
one's own farts no longer just a euphemism for being
really into yourself, as of course beautifully lampooned on the
(23:53):
South Park episode where everyone was smelling their own farts. Guys. Okay,
I forget the dude's name. There is this YouTuber slash
Instagram guy who is a very intense kind of male
power type dude. Not that I'm into that kind of content,
but he just comes up and he's always talking about
smelling his own farts and exploring what he refers to
(24:15):
as his stink portal and all of the he's the
kind of dude that probably drinks his own pea for health,
you know. I mean, the guy's a little bit nuts,
but he's kind of captivating, and it does seem like
science says that he may be onto something regarding the
old stink portal. It does turn out that a new
study out of India, I believe, says smelling your own
(24:37):
farts could actually improve cognitive abilities and decrease the potential
for Alzheimer's and I'm reading from a source that we
all took a look at from the India Defense Review.
Sniffing your own farts could protect your brain and prevent Alzheimer's.
(24:57):
No joke, science has proven it. This is by Sarah
Talby and it starts off a recent study is linked
hydrogen sulfide, the gas responsible for the smell of flatulence,
to potential protective effects against Alzheimer's disease. The research suggests
that exposure to the gas might improve brain function and
reduce cognitive decline. The findings are based on laboratory tests
(25:21):
in mice and may eventually open new doors in the
treatment of age related neuro degenerative conditions. So I assume
we're talking about now we have to bottle our own
farts or convert them into some sort of injectable, because
surely there must be a better way, in a way
to get more efficacious results than just sniffing your own farts,
(25:44):
we imagine over, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Yeah, maybe that's maybe the sniffing of the fart is
the original sort of organic, holistic way to discover it.
But from the study it seems that they're Okay. I
got really excited at first because I thought it was
something about your personalized microbiome helping somehow through its literal
(26:07):
loft gasing and helping your helping stymy cognitive decline. But
it looks like, at least in terms of the study
on mice, that it's more just about the substance hydrogen sulfide.
So to your point, maybe you could just make some
other medium of transmission of hydrogen sulfide right A little
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one thing that is really popular where I am right
now on the road is these these little canisters. I'm
in a place to.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Sure like a smelling salt on the scale.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Like, what's that word, insulflate, insulflate, insulfates. Yes, correct, there
are these little canisters where I'm at right now. They're
very popular because it's kind of a smelling place depending
on the season, and you'll see people walking around and
just taking one of these things and giving it a snarf,
And it really freaked me out at first because it
looks like old Victorian snuff.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Sure they're not doing poppers, ben, I.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Should ask the mill, but but maybe there's a way
to build that out with hydrogen sulfide. I don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Isn't hydrogen sulfide a highly toxic gas. It's the rotten
egg smell gas, and it's the kind it is. Yeah,
you have to handle it really carefully when you're shipping
large quantities of it, let's say, in a canister or something,
because it's flammable and toxic.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
And it might not just be the sulfide itself, because
I think the study, at least one of the co authors,
who gets quoted a lot, doctor Bindu Paul, has said
hydrogen sulfide and other gaseous molecules. So it might be
more of a cocktail, right than a straight shot a
stinky egg sulfurous for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
And I'm also unclear as to whether I mean, obviously
it's they're chasing headlines with the idea of smelling your
own farts, but I don't know that it has to.
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Be your own, like it's not like stem cells or
something like this.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I think it can be just this this compound that
exists in farts, and I guess you know, you're certainly
not going to be smelling other people's farts. One would hope.
I'm my mistake, y'all. This study is out of Johns Hopkins,
not out of an institution in India. The head researcher
is of Indian DESSENTI what I was where I made
that mistake.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
But let's just say there was a pastor somewhere I
don't know, yeah, in some country, and he has decided
that the farting pastor his farts can heal people. Are
we saying that potentially he might be right?
Speaker 4 (28:38):
I think this is more like a broken clock is
right twice a day, a broken but farts twice a day,
you know what I mean, in the right direction. So
that's also the history of medicine. You know, a lot
of trial and error in human.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
What we're talking about over time. We're not a single
fart ain't going to cure your malady, and just like
a single cigarette isn't going to immediately give you lung cancer.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Yeah, you've got to.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
It's what it comes to.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
It comes to curative flagellation. It's all about the discipline.
It's about the restauran game. It's about showing up, eating
those beans in the morning and getting into a tight
enclosed room every single day, you know what I mean,
get your gains in for sure, you.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Gotta do the work. So just to close this one out,
according to the study. This from the India Defense Review piece.
Hydrogen sulfide, the same gas responsible for the smell of farts,
could help regulate the processes that lead to cognitive decline.
This is from the associate professor and co author of
the study. Our new data firmly link aging neuro degeneration
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and cell signaling using hydrogen sulfide and other like you said,
ben gaseous molecules within the cell. So the core of
the study focused on how introducing the substance might actually
reverse the symptoms of Alzheimer's. The results, he says, showed
that the behavioral outcomes of Alzheimer's disease could be reversed
by introducing hydrogen sulfies. So this is good news.
Speaker 4 (30:10):
This good news.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I just I mean, it's good news. I just don't
want to smell farts though.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, I think they were actually I said, you know,
I think sure, an injectable, perhaps a horse.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Pill, you know, yeah, like they were injected. And also,
we are ethically bound to point out something that comes
up a lot in these studies. Mice are great subjects
for experiments, right, if you put aside morals and concerns
for the animal's welfare. But just because something hurts or
helps a mouse does not mean it automatically will have
(30:46):
the same effect on humans. Sort of like humans love chocolate,
but dogs are going to get in trouble if they
eat it. Yeah, get real, real sick, guys.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
Did you see the reports of this like purported furry
party that took place at mar A Lago?
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Oh oh headline? I think, but I don't know much
else about it.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I think that is a mischaracterization.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Knowl it is okay, but you're not wrong. You're not wrong.
But it's fun. It's a lot of fun considering how
you know, remember all the talk from the right about
like litterboxes in classrooms and just sort of you know,
demonizing furries as being like sex pests or something like that. Well,
it's just it's just kind of interesting and a little
(31:35):
bit pop calling the kettle black. When you see footage
from this event where you have people in full dog
masks wearing like Victorian or I guess like kind of
Marie Antoinette era like costumes at this gala, this ball,
it's some very interesting stuff to see out of context.
(31:56):
But to your point, Matt, it is not It is
not a furry. It is, in fact a gala held
at mar A Lago thrown by the I Believe Humane Society.
It's called the Hero Dog Awards Gala, which took place
on January ninth of this year, and it involved you know,
(32:16):
obviously a high dollar plate you know, entry fee, and
the entertainment where these professional dancers kind of ballroom dancing
around the place dressed up as dogs. People are drawing
some very interesting parallels to let them eat cake kind
of talk, which obviously we know was not something that
really happened. I'm also seeing a lot of references to
(32:37):
the final Stanley Kubrick film, Eyes Wide Shut, and a
lot of conspiracy types, you know, bandying around ideas that
this is some sort of satanic blood ritual.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah, the Internet. That's why I said about eyes are
a wide shut for this, because look, yeah, man, whatever
the intention is, as noble as it may be, to
your point, no, the optics are non ideal. It's it
reminds me of for everyone anyone who got deep into
(33:09):
Roth's child lore back in the day. Uh, there were
a couple of really strange galas that that that dynasty
had where they were decked out and very eyes wide,
shutty stuff here. But I especially love your point about
about every accusation being a confession. How does that old
(33:30):
truism go or that.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I'm certainly seeing quite a bit of that. Lots of
memes about this, and then Gavin Newsom had a bit
of fun with that. One image that I keep seeing
pop up is that one where in the Shining they
walk in on a on a room where there's like
a dude in a dog costume doing some some naughty
stuff to another individual. Uh, and not to mention, this
(33:54):
is just one of a string of kind of oddly
ostentatious and tone deaf gala type events that are happening there,
and then soon will be happening at the White House
as well, with that insane ballroom that's under construction apparently
under budget as well. Guys, let's just go on.
Speaker 4 (34:13):
I think there's I think it's an expansion subterranean of
an op center because.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
It's so big, it's such a crazy footprint that I've
never heard of any I hadn't thought about that.
Speaker 4 (34:27):
It's it's an eyeword's bread and circuses. It's look, this
is not a political statement. This is just an aesthetic statement,
it's you know what I mean. So the next question
is if they're going to knock down uh important parts
of such an historic building in the United States, Well,
(34:47):
Tom Waits would ask, what's he building in there?
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Right?
Speaker 4 (34:50):
What's he building under there?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
An on site?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
You never thought about that, Ben, it's a very good point.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Data center of some sort.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah, stay machine perhaps right right right back to underground
you know, dwelling. Yeah, mega bunker.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
I love that suggestion for a chapter two on underground cities.
Everybody get a bunker, guys, invite us to your bunker.
What could go wrong?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Yeah? What if it's just a giant as your friend,
what if it's just.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
A giant uh bitcoin mining operation or something? You know
when it like I I know this administration is really
into e coins of all sorts and cryptocurrency. That it
would it would be awesome if they just built some
kind of mining operation down there.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
It'd be Yeah, it would be on brand, you know,
because that's the one that's the one residence in the
United States where law enforcement is not really going to
run at you for a suspicious electricity bill.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
It's a white house. It's true. It's expensive here, right, Uh,
No one hundred percent. Nothing more to that one. Really,
I just wanted to men that it's kind of funny
considering it's just the optics of a lot of these
events that they're throwing. Given the state of employment and
a lot of the other things that are going on
in this country, it just feels a little off. I agreed.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
Maybe we should move, not just from this country. We're
gonna have an episode about how to get out of
the US how it actually works, but maybe we should
move off planet.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
Man, what do you think I want to go to
the Moon stay in a giant bouncy castle, all right,
shark tank In theory, maybe one day you will be
able to a startup called grow like the battie in
Despicable Meat, which stands for Galactic Resource Utilization. Space Groove
(36:44):
Space plans to build an inflatable lunar hotel by the
year twenty thirty two. They are backed by Nvidia and
some other quite big tech concerns. They are doing this
inflatable version as like a like a test kind of thing,
or like they're sort of the pilot program before eventually
building a permanent lunar hotel using materials found on the
(37:08):
Moon's surface. Like literally fashioning and out of moon dust.
According to grow space and this is from tech round
dot co dot UK, the Lunar Hotel will be constructed
in stages. The first V one would be inflatable structure
built on Earth and transport it to the Moon in
partnership with SpaceX or a company like SpaceX. I don't
think they're direct sponsors or stakeholders in the project. The
(37:31):
inflatable structure will look to host up to four guests
for around five nights, and you could be one of
those four guests. We can reserve your spot now for
just a cool million. Actually it's the range says two
hundred and fifty thousand, two one million of the full
cost could run upwards of ten million dollars.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
Oh well, that's just take it master level misleading, isn't
it guys? You know, how does it go from two
hundred and fifty to a million to what you say? Told?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Well, no, no, the two fifty to one million is your
deposit just to like you, and I imagine it's you know,
how much you got to throw down will depend on
how likely you are to get confirmed, because it would
seem like it would be like it there's only four spots.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
Yeah, and I don't know what you want, you know. Also,
there are some stereotypes about very wealthy people, not to mention,
you know, perhaps smelling their own farts, maybe trying to
go down to the Titanic when the technology wasn't there
(38:39):
Are these the kind of people you would want to
be trapped with on the moon?
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Is there a spa?
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Do you get how there possibly could be four people? Why?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
You know, enough water on the moon?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Explosive.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
This is not only expensive, this is utterly moonshot kind
of idea, very pie in the sky they are planning
for this. It sounds like they're gonna need some of
these billionaire billionaires to drop some of those funds to
reserve their spot, to have the capital to even go
through with the project. It seems very you know, over promising,
(39:21):
under delivery.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Yeah, that's that's something that I'm my spidery sense is tingling.
This feels like a very carefully packaged call for investment.
More than anything is correct.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Fire Festival on the Moon.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
Finally, Firefest time Putin has spy nuns. We've got Firefest
on the moon. See, it's not all bad, folks.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
It's kind of the future. Finally, guys, we just need
our little flying cars.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
The Jetson's lied to us, but we.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Were promised flying cars. Instead we got cyber trucks.
Speaker 4 (39:57):
I kind of want to see and this is pitch
for the anybody who's resurrecting Hanna Barbara. I kind of
want to see a gritty reboot of the Jetsons, but
I want to see the underclass, you know what I mean.
I want to see like the two Dark side of
the Jetsons.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Absolutely, they portray it as something of an idyllic, you know, utopia.
Even though George hates his job, but the whole idea
of like his job, this future job is just to
push a button, yeah, to make widgets or no sprockets,
and the future futuristic product is sprockets and cogs, which
I love. And we did recently talk about The Flintstones,
(40:36):
a really gritty reboot of The Flintstones with the brutal
reality of caveman society and like just turf wars and things,
and you know, the dinosaurs that actually don't just serve
as your garbage disposal but actually devour your family. That's
what I want to see.
Speaker 4 (40:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the dinosas and controlled dinosaurs is weapons
of weapons of mass instruction.
Speaker 3 (41:01):
I know because even in the Flintstones live action movie,
the dinahs were all very docile and seemed to be
super into being harnessed and bent to the will of man.
I think that's how it would go down.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
I'm going through a dinosaur phase again. To guys, I
am so dinosaurs. Whatever.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
Can you, guys imagine going to the moon and getting
like being able to see a live performance of Halahalla
from jaw Rule.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
I can't imagine that, but I think it's because we
all have extremely beautiful, vivid imaginations. Can you imagine getting
stranded there? I mean that's why I almost I almost
didn't say invite us to your bunker on air, and
I hope I don't regret it, because I don't know
you guys opinions on group trips in general, but they
(41:48):
can be daunting. I'm more of a ghost, you know
what I mean. You've seen me I blow in, through
and out of a situation.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
Well, it's nice to defer to everybody else's schedules and wishes.
It's not to do a little solo trip. And yeah,
sometimes group trips can be a lot of pressure, no
question about on the Moon. I think People's company could
wear a thin on you real quick. If you're where
are you going to go? Best of friends? It would
also truly put your friendship to the test. Yeah, where
are you going to go?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
I mean, at least in Antarctica you can get mad
and put on several layers of protection and say I'm
going to go stand outside for four minutes. Four minutes outside,
it's a lot of oxygen.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Are you sure right? It feels like the set up
to some Guermo del Toro project in twenty twenty seven
or something. You know, it's just going to make a
movie about the hotel on the Moon.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
I want to go to the Moon so bad, you know.
I think it's a smart thing for science. Maybe hopefully
this company is I don't want to run us along
on this, but maybe hopefully this company is again carefully
packaging a dream to get investors such that they can
send actual scientists to the Moon to uh.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
I'd like to think.
Speaker 4 (43:07):
I'd like to true that.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Yeah, sort of doubt it though, unfortunately. I just I
just feel like, you know, with all of the funding
RUG pulls into NASA and things like that and the
privatization of space travel, it just seems like it's being
sold is more of like a billionaire lark kind of
gimmick as opposed to like what it actually could mean
for humanity, or at the very least the billionaires are
(43:30):
just figuring out how they can get there and leave
everybody else behind.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
And well, that that is, that is not just a
valid point, it's pretty much an objective fact. I would
add historical precedent shows us that private industry is great
for expansion into new territories like Dutch East India. The
(43:56):
East Indies companies were you know, like the first corporations
of their kind, and they absolutely propelled European expansion. So
maybe space travel does need privatization. I've had some really
interesting talks with aerospace engineers about this, but I think
we should keep NASA. I think it's cool to have
(44:17):
the greater good of the government when it works driving
space space expansion. Now I'm derailing us. That's a different episode,
not at all.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
No, it's a valid point, and I think a perfect
way to wrap this one up. So let's take a
quick break here aware from our sponsor, and then we'll
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Speaker 2 (46:24):
Yeah, and too bad if you don't. Ah, sorry, Okay, So,
as we said, for you, it's the twenty six. For us,
it's Wednesday, January twenty first, twenty twenty six. We mentioned
the Swiss Alps. We mentioned elaborate parties thrown by the
obscenely wealthy. I feel like, guys, we should at least
mention this year's wackado version of the emergency World Economic
Forum in Davos, Switzerland.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
Oh yeah, yeah, they're getting into comedy pretty hard.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
They're getting into and literally an emergency situation where all
of Europe, all of the members of the North American
Treaty Organization came together to hopefully have some kind of
dialogue and diplomacy with the current bad guys of the world,
the United States of America. A very strange situation to
(47:11):
have the United States of America threatening to invade another
NATO country with force, especially following a very recent abduction
and hot action in Venezuela, which don't forget about that.
But we do have good news.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Saying some of this stuff might not be above board.
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
I'm just saying this is weird. It should be happening.
Speaker 4 (47:35):
I think the board applies to the game anymore. I
think we've all been watching some of the live updates.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Right, Yes, but we do we have good news from
the live updates, guys. As of this moment, the standing
President of the United States of America has announced that
he quote won't use force unquote to take control of Greenland,
you know, setting off a global conflict between the US
and NATO.
Speaker 3 (47:59):
Handshakes and how Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
This comes on the heels of his of his letter
to Norway about the Peace Prize text.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
I believe the mock.
Speaker 4 (48:10):
Rolling text that he publicized and.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
In this posting screenshots of texts is like something an
angry X would do.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
Yeah, it's weird. I think we all saw another another
signal that the current potus sent was stepping back a
little and say, hey, I'd be open to a ninety
nine year lease of greenland.
Speaker 2 (48:34):
Yeah. We're just hoping somehow that by some miracle, diplomacy
wins out and there's some kind of version of all
of this that calms down and reduces the chaos levels
from ninety nine point nine percent where we currently are,
to at least eighty. Let's get down to eighty percent chaos. Guys,
(48:55):
I feel like I feel like Katie all day. We'll
all feel a lot better at that point. But with
all this nuts stuff happening in the world right now,
one of the great things we can do is reflect
a little bit, and let's say, have a meal with
our loved ones. That's what I did yesterday, got on
the grill, cooked some steak, and then woke up this
(49:16):
morning and read a headline that made me regret my
decision to eat some steaks.
Speaker 3 (49:21):
Is smelling your own farts?
Speaker 2 (49:23):
No, this is coming to us from science dot org.
It's all over the place. Many of the places you'll
find this are paywalld. So I head on over to
science dot org. Although it was my only free article
I guess for the day, so hopefully you can get
that one too. It's titled no bull, This Austrian cow
has learned to use tools. Hear that a cow has
(49:48):
learned to use tools?
Speaker 3 (49:50):
This holds it in its hooves.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
No, no, no, it's using its mouth much in the
same way you've probably seen a pet, a cat, a dog,
a similar animal use their mouth to pick something up
right and manipulate it a little bit. In this case,
the cow is picking up things specifically to scratch itself
in places that it cannot reach, like the utter. Oh yes, utters,
(50:16):
it's back up near the hind quarters, it's tummy. It
is very very cool. And the astonishing thing that has
been found that we're going to talk about right here
is that the cow is using different parts of the
same tool for different purposes, all for scratching, but for
scratching either sensitive areas or parts of its body that
(50:37):
require a bit more roughness. Let's get into this because
it is freaking fascinating. This is happening in Austria. There's
a baker out there who has a cow named Veronica,
and the baker noticed that when Veronica had an itch,
it would grab a stick from the ground, pick up
the stick and scratch itself. And you know, at first
(50:59):
he's just like, oh, look at that. Isn't that amusing
and interesting that the cows doing that? But then some
scientists got wind of this and they realized, oh, this
is actual. Could it be actual tool use by a bovine,
which would be unprecedented in the history of mankind. It
is not known that cows have used tools.
Speaker 3 (51:19):
I guess I'd be on the same page if I
were to observe this. It just seems like not that
big a deal. But this is huge, that's insane, it
would be huge.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
The thing is it could be perhaps not tool use,
just some cow picking up a stick, right, and that's
not crazy an animal picking something up with his mouth,
as we're saying, with cats and dogs, we observe it
all the time, many different animals.
Speaker 4 (51:43):
Question is whether it's intentional, right, the intent and I
love to point out the multi use.
Speaker 2 (51:50):
Yeah, absolutely, So they are to qualify as tool use.
There are a couple of things you got to have.
The tool must become an extension of an animal's body.
The tool must allow the animals to do something it
wouldn't otherwise be able to do or would have great
difficulty doing. And the animal must change the orientation of
the tool to make it do its job right. So
(52:11):
these are some pretty big qualifications things that you have
to meet. And it turns out after seventy trials that
were conducted out there by a team of folks and
a postgraduate student, they realized that yes, this cow is
in fact using this tool in two different ways, for
two different reasons, or for the same reason, but in
two different applications, I suppose. And it's just astonishing, and
(52:36):
it makes you think about cows, and it made me
specific think about the steak I ate last night. Don't know,
what do you guys think?
Speaker 4 (52:43):
I got it? You know, this has long been a
fascination of mine, non human intelligence. It's what fascination I
think a lot of us in the audience Tonight's share
shout out to sci fi writer Adrian Tchaikovsky. He's got
another book coming out in his series, The Man's a Machine.
But look, we know that the more we observe animals,
(53:07):
species or genres of animals as they like to call them,
more individual animals, the more intelligent they appear to be right.
It's just the human still hasn't really defined intelligence all
the way. So for a long time scientific research was
stymied by this anthrocentric perspective. You know what you know,
(53:28):
and you don't know what you don't know, especially if
it's too different from you. We know that the octopus
is capable of tool use the COVID of course, shout
out to those guys. And we also know that there
is a stark difference between observed behavior and suspected behavior
(53:49):
because I believe Matt in articles quoting some of the
studies like the debrief, for example, they talk about the
cow's pharm or their human body, who had been noticing
this over time, right, like over a long period of time.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah, there's a statement from the postdoctorate postdoctoral student who
was performing those trials saying that he believes, at least
according to what he's been told by the baker, the
cow's caretaker, I suppose that after the mother, this cow's
mother passed away, it was believed that this was a
way to kind of self comfort, right to use the
(54:32):
scratching of a tool like this. However, there's another really
interesting possibility coming from I think it's I don't know
if it's Yon or Jan Langolin and applied ethologists at
the Research Institute for Farm Animal Biology. It was really
thought provoking to me, and I feel like it's very interesting,
(54:52):
So we'll just put it out there like this. Here's's
quoting from the article. Perhaps Veronica learned to use tools
because she was allowed to. Most farm animals live in
a relatively barren environment with no access to objects they
can manipulate. And the full quote is you can't become
a tool user if there are no tools available. That
(55:15):
makes a lot of sense, right, Yeah, don't.
Speaker 4 (55:18):
You don't have the opportunity to exercise intellect in that way.
Because this is a companion animal, not being used as
livestock or for dairy farming. This is kind of a
pet and that's a huge distinction.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, it's a cow that doesn't get milked, it's not
used for anything. It sleeps in quarters near where the
baker and you know where he lives and everything.
Speaker 4 (55:40):
Vizgar weigels, Yes, that's him.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
And again it's just just an animal allowed to roam
free and to see something on the ground and pick
it up, right, And then you imagine, especially how most
dairy cattle and cattle that are used for meat harvesting
here in the US are treated where they live, what
they get to experience on a daily basis, it's not
what Veronica gets to see into. So maybe there's just
(56:07):
a lot more observation and different living conditions for animals
to be studied in this way and see what happens,
see if they do the things the corvids do.
Speaker 3 (56:18):
I guess I keep harping on this, but I just
would not have clocked what a big deal and what
like a rare occurrence this is and what it represents
like evolutionarily. Is that what we're talking about or.
Speaker 4 (56:29):
What we don't takeaway. Yeah, we don't know how many
times something like this has happened and has not been observed, right,
So it's logically possible this has been happening, but cattle,
due to the nature of farming and domestication, haven't been
given the opportunity to exercise intellect in that way. Or
it's completely possible cattle who were existing in the past
(56:54):
right before we could film footage of them, we're doing
things like this and humans were just to into thinking
of human stuff to notice it or notice how important
it is. But to your point, no, I would argue
this is this is great scientific progress. I am prochool
used from animals. I can't wait to see, Like, what's
(57:16):
the huh, what would be the funniest or most interesting
animal to be proven to have fool use?
Speaker 3 (57:25):
Well, I think that's a question for our listeners. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Well, as of right now, it's humans, chimpanzees, and Veronica.
Those are literally the only examples of multi uses for
the single tool that exists out there.
Speaker 4 (57:41):
Really, Corvids, from what I understood, can modify tools for
different purposes, and they'll take the same artifact and change
it as needed.
Speaker 2 (57:54):
I'm not aware of that, at least that's not what
science dot org is saying in a bunch of these
other places they're saying chimpanzees are the only ones who
will use a stick that has a smaller end and
a larger end and they'll poke a hole through where
let's say a nest for where ants are or something
like that, and then flip it around and use the
small end to fish out the ants. That's again using
(58:15):
the same tool for two different purposes. And then Veronica
is using the bristles part and then the handle part
of a broom. And then humans. Obviously we we love
a multi use, right.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
We do.
Speaker 2 (58:33):
Those are the only examples I've seen, and that's how
they're speaking about it, at least in Inside Out Org.
Just don't give a raccoon a Swiss army knife, good
Lord at please God, No.
Speaker 4 (58:41):
No, they're leatherman guys.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
Hold on, they will they will mug you in an
alley if they were given such.
Speaker 4 (58:48):
Yeah, New Caldoni a switchblade. New Caledonian crows are famous
for using and making tools, combining multiple items for complex task. Okay, well,
let me let me have always the studies always read
you Aly said that was true, So I mean I'm
going to have to dive into this compound tool.
Speaker 3 (59:05):
Heck yeah. And also, just the last thing we're talking about, covids.
I'd tend this to Ben on Instagram. Apparently there's some
people that are training corvids to attack ICE agents. Just
putting that out there home.
Speaker 4 (59:16):
We're talking about a weaponization of the mask and hat experiment.
Speaker 3 (59:19):
Yeah, nice sense.
Speaker 2 (59:21):
Last thing, guys, before we get out of here. From
The Guardian, Nearly all Epstein files still unreleased a month
after Congress deadline. That is one month after December nineteenth,
twenty twenty five. That was the deadline mandated by the
Epstein Files Transparency Act that the US Congress passed. The
Justice Department has still not complied with the law. At
(59:42):
last count, the DOJ website posted approximately twelve two hundred
and eighty five documents. That's around one hundred and twenty
five five hundred and seventy five pages, and they say
there's still around two million or more documents potentially responsive
to the Act in various phases of review. So again,
just a reminder today on Wednesday, January twenty first, as
(01:00:04):
we record this, the Epstein files are still locked away
and the ones that did come out have been heavily
redacted against the rules of that act, the.
Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Rules saying that you can't redact names exclusively to prevent embarrassment. Yes,
and it does appear that only victims' names were meant
to be redacted. But I believe there's some eagle eye,
like coffee Zilla, for example, the great investigative YouTuber, was
able to take some of these last batch and apply
some you know, like PDF filters to it or loaded
(01:00:38):
up in Acrobat Reader, and realizing that these things are
actually removable, but also realizing and going through these that
there are clearly names of co conspirators that were redacted,
and there's much that's not according to the spirit of
the law.
Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
Right right, nor the letter of the law. Actually, if
we want to be a little bit pedantic about the
you know, the rule of law, which is that they
that is supposed to be happening. So my awkward English aside,
forgive me, folks still learning this tongue. We don't want
to forget about the Epstein files, and don't you forget
(01:01:13):
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News segment, especially how leaving the US works underground Cities
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You can call us on the phone, and you can
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