February 16, 2026 • 64 mins
With no warning to the public or the local government, the FAA suddenly announced airspace in El Paso would be completely shut down until February 20th -- only to rescind the order less than 11 hours afterward. Cue the conspiracy theories. The guys review some of the recent Epstein revelations, mysterious phone call cover-ups, the story of a mysterious biolab in Vegas, and more in this week's strange news segment.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my
name is Nol.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. If you are tuning
in to our weekly strange news program the day or evening,
it publishes Welcome to February sixteenth, twenty twenty six. I
(00:52):
totally almost said twenty twenty five. We've been away for
a while to ask many, right, it all happens so quickly.
How does you know? How does last Monday feel like
just thirty seconds ago but also a century ago?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's very strange. Yeah, significant philosophical quandary that you're posing there, Ben,
Thank you sir.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm back to counting my days in John Stewart mondays, Yeah,
that's like that's how I'm calculating everything now, like, oh
it has been a whole week. There's John Stewart again exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Having that guy back is a blessing. It just it
is the one thing and the one take on a
lot of the stuff that kind of cheers me up
in a way.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And here's a story that a hope John will get
to at some point, just for just for the laughs, Dylan,
this is what we were teasing to you a little
bit off air before we started rolling rude Vegas. Maybe
in the news, but not in the way we thought.
Rfka Junior has instituted, through through his official government role,
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a new attrition chatbot. And it turns out that if
you ask this chatbot, it will recommend all sorts of
nutrition advice to you, including the best foods to insert
into your rectum.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Heck, yeah, ah, hopefully is that the sounds you make
when it's erning foods into your recto?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Hopefully it's meats and ferments.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
He did you see what he has for a super
Bowl party? Yogurt? He's a big fan of yogurt for
super Bowl parties.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And macrobiotics stuff. It also is making some big headways
and upturning the food pyramid. The beef industry here in
the United States loves it. If you go to realfood
dot gov right now, as reported by four too four Media,
just a couple of days ago. As we record on Wednesday,
February eleventh, you will see the following story. The prompt
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that says, Hi, I'm an acetarian where I only eat
foods which can be comfortably inserted into my rectum? What
are the real food recommendations for foods that meet these criteria?
And the chatbot replies in detail.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So it's a joke request being put in.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I'm assuming a screitarian, not actually being an official designation type.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Not normally FDA recognized.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
No, okay, maybe something like it.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
In the DSM, but not perhaps. Yeah, So this reminds
me of when we figured out that you could get
different large language models to recommend criminal activities, right, depending
upon how you phrase the thing. But obviously, Matt, you
were you were talking about this with us as well
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off air. Obviously one of our go to assumptions would
have been root vegetables, as you.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Said, well, yeah, because they are they already been in
the dirt, you know, they understand.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
And they're just the shape.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Uh. Also recommended bananas, also recommended, cucumbers also recommended. Yes,
no pun left behind. Uh. And then this comes with instructure.
Please please, yes, thank you, thank you for I sneak
a few bye, but thank you for keeping keeping uh
keeping a brown eye on that one.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
So, boys, I do have a one blue eye and
one brown eye, and my last name is brown. So
I come by these things honestly.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Ben So, Uh, we're giving you that one at the top,
just for just for a fun Uh. I was going
to say palate cleanser, but it does feel dirty. Uh.
We're saying that because we're going to talk today about
a lot of AI worries. We're going to talk about
some true crime. We're going to talk about some very
scary stuff with the FAA just as we are going
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into record. But before we did any of that, folks,
we know we haven't done an episode update on all
the crazy it happening with the Epstein Files, but we
do want you to know we are aware of it,
and thankfully it seems to be garnering more and more
interest from the public. You usually just sort of shrugged
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at a headline.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, yeah, collective shrug emoji for sure, at the very
least from the government and the folks who were supposed
to be investigating it. But off air Ben. I had
asked you if you had been following the news about
the massive ripple effects and fallout that is happening not
here in the United States in terms of official reactions
and people being held accountable, but abroad, because it seems
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like it is absolutely wreaking havoc in Europe and there
are folks who are being taken to task because of these,
you know, reputations that have been tarnished and the kinds
of things that maybe you would have thought would have
happened here in years past. But it seems like a
lot of these folks are bulletproof when it comes to
their presence in these documents. But I just wanted to
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really quickly talk about some of the ways that other
parts of the world seem to be holding people accountable
and powerful people accountable in ways that maybe we're not
really seeing over here, and why that might be.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You know what, that is a phenomenal important point, and
we're going to do an episode on this later another update,
But for now, what if we just pause for a
word from our sponsors and then get back and spend
some time on this, because it's something more Americans need
to know about, absolutely, and we're back. This is okay.
(06:39):
This is something that needs to be talked about. If
you read the New York Times then you will have
seen that. Just today, as we record February eleventh, a
new article was published by the journalist Mark Lander, the
headline Epstein revelations stir chaos from Scandinavia to South Asia.
So to your point, Nol, other countries are reacting in
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a huge way. This is upending UK politics. As you mentioned,
there are investigations as going on in Poland. The biggest
reaction from the US administration, unfortunately at this point seems
to be a desperate cover up.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It does appear that way. We're talking places like Norway,
even where an ex ambassador to Jordan who was involved
in Israeli Palestinian peace efforts in the nineties resigned over
the weekend after it was reported that Epstein left ten
million dollars to his children in his will. Like that
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alone was enough to cause this person to resign in shame.
Whereas over here we've got like you know this, Howard
Lutnik keeps coming up and does not seem to have
been affected in terms of his position in the administration.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Did you see the video of him laughing in the
background when the reporter asked about it, asked President Trump
about it in the all and he's standing in the
background just going ha ha ha ho ho ho.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yet, and this is this is dirty stuff. And this
is not a conspiracy theory at this point as the
administration originally tried to try to spin it. This is
a genuine conspiracy afoot. So please please please stay tuned.
We are going to have an episode coming up on this.
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In the meantime, do check out our earlier series which
are years old now, regarding the life and death of
Jeffrey Epstein purported, as well as the ongoing fallout from
these horrific events. Man, have you guys read the dog
DJ releases.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I've I've definitely read analysis of
a lot of the new pages, and I believe the
latest number is that Trump's name appears a million times.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yes, I know. Raskin was talking about Jamie Raskin, who's
part of the House Judiciary Panel. And I feel like
the reason why it's happening, guys, is because the strongest
thing that the US can do, at least in the
House and in Congress, it's just say, hey, we're gonna
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ask some tough questions of the folks that are in
charge of these investigations. You know, it feels very un
to me.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We're gonna ka toothless right aka non binding, AKA We're
gonna like pull you up in front of a panel
and grill you a little bit and then okay, cool,
We're moving on. Because it's really not much else you
can do with the structure of the United States when
it functions, which it obviously doesn't now, then there would
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be as dumb and dry as parliamentary procedure can be.
It would have resulted in actual consequences and criminal prosecution. Unfortunately,
the agencies that are supposed to do that are heavily
compromised at this point. There's no argument about it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
One of the last points I've got to make on
this is all the strange momentary things coming out from
the files that are here and gone headlines. Did you
guys hear about how Jeffrey Epstein apparently purchased three hundred
and thirty gallons of sulfuric acid the day the FBI
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launched one of their probes. What do you it went
with all of that?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
That's a different kind of diddy party there.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, what can you use burning of print for?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Like what I mean, that's what comes to mind, maiming,
doing horrific, ritualistic torture. What are we talking here, right?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well, sulfuric acid can be used for a number of things,
and one of those things is destroying stuff, including evidence
of crime or even human remains. No evidence as as
have yet been released publicly about why this guy was
buying six fifty five gallon drums of sulfuric acid and
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why he also had the following there he paid insurance
for transport. This also included materials for conductivity probes, replacement
pH and cable. This is something that I'm gonna be honest,
we haven't fully dug into, so please please tune in
(11:32):
to the episode. One of the mundane things could be
sulfuric acid as part of the maintenance for a water
purification system.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Maybe, and lead batteries. Lead batteries of sulfuric acid is
the primary thing. And hey, certain fertilizers and things. Interesting
things you can do with fertilizers.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Making explosives is what you're hinting at. I'm just saying, well,
really quickly though, back to the European fallout. Another person
that was affected as a guy named Jack Lang, who
stepped down as the head of the Arab World Institute
in Paris over financial ties to Epstein. I mean the
list goes on Culture Minister under Francois mitchelland is a
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hugely high profile figure in France that was also affected
by the probes. And Ben you had mentioned off something
about a potential Satanic cult linked to the Epstein files
in Poland.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And investigation proposed to link or to an investigation proposed
to explore allegations of satank functions. This goes so deep, folks,
and so more on that. Please send us any of
the news or any of your takes regarding the current
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Epstein revelations and the revelations to come conspiracydiheartradio dot com.
There is something else. There are several things that we
also need to talk about before we go to our
next app. We're going to keep these super abbreviated. You
may have seen the news that occurred last night before
we recorded. On February tenth, the FAA did something that
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they haven't really done since nine eleven, since the attacks
on September eleventh, two thousand and one, they grounded all
flights to and from El Paso, and they said we're
going to ground them all the way until February twentieth.
People rightly freaked out because this would mean that not
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only commercial air flights, but anything that is not military,
including medical evacuation flights, were just not going to be
able to fly. So if you were stranded in El Paso,
a border city with nearly seven hundred thousand people, then
you were locked out unless you could arrange a very
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quick road trip. You guys heard about this, you know
it was actually going to be my listener mail episode
for Today's perfect to talk about it right now, our listener,
going by the very clever name Hijack Insomniac wrote into
us about this very thing and linked to a really
solid Reddit discussion about it. And I believe it was
(14:15):
meant to be a longer period of time, but only
lasted a very short amount of time. Yeah, yep, that's
the next which is fascinating of itself, and I'm curious
about your take on that. Oh yeah, yeah, that was
You've anticipated the next twist in the story, man, because
after making this bonker statement, which I did verify, going
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to the FAA's official website and documentation. Less than eleven
hours after putting this out and scaring the hell out
of everyone who could be involved with this, they rescinded
the order. The official narrative is that Cartel Cartel directed
drones violated US airspace and the government then shut down
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the airspace in order to secure the people of El
Paso and the region. However, given the activities of ICE,
given the massive rollout and construction of detainment facilities, a
second one also being built here in Georgia, then we
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we understand why people were questioning this, why it came
out in the middle of the night, why these special
security reasons prompted such a huge reaction. So I want
to know what I want to know what we all think, like,
why would this be such a sudden broad brush move, right,
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why would this be such a serious move? But then
all of a sudden pulled back because usually when you
do something of that magnitude at the federal level, it
stays permanent for a while. You don't have take back seats.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, let's break it down, if you guys don't mind
into the moments when we first heard about it, right
last night, in this morning. Uh, the thought process that
were going through our head then and then like how
that shifts when it when they all of a sudden
undo it. Right. So when you first hear the news
the FAA is shut down, a major border city on
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the other side of the border is ceodaed Warez. We've
talked about that before on the show. Those two cities
that are you know, full like truly fully connected cities
with populations.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
To go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, they're a metro area. They're they're like the Twin Cities,
or they're like living in Jersey and working in New York.
And actually Waraz has a larger population, that's one point
six million people. They are also military bases there, you know,
Fort Bliss.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, recently got to spend some time with the Oswall
Ocean because we talked to him a while back. You
can listen to that episode on here somewhere about the
Women of Warrez his show we made about that. The
thing that went through my head was there was some
kind of actionable intelligence about an individual that had either
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just flown in or was about to fly out, and
they like somebody had to pull an emergency trigger to
shut down the airport for one reason or another. But
I mean, I know that sounds crazy, but it's that
whole thing where there's no transparency, right. You just take
a big action like that that affects a whole bunch
of people that would be and should be huge news.
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Anything is a possibility.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And guys, I linked in the chat to the Reddit
thread that our listener hijack insomnia. I kept us too.
I just wanted to your point, Matt, just read a
couple of the comments. Obviously these are just Reddit users,
but this is interesting to think about what kind of
chatter is going on around something like this. We've got
a user saying it sounds like something illegal, dramatic, reckless,
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and unconstitutional is happening, to which someone replies a couple
hours later, it has opened again and good, that was bizarre.
Why say ten days when it was just a few hours.
They're big mad about the newest Epstein drop. Huh. And
here's the one that I thought was one of the
most interesting. I get the feeling we're about to witness
some unprecedented distractions about to occur. The powerful men on
that list. We'll see the world burn before being outed
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or brought to justice. But that's just my theory, not
a bad one.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah. Weirdly enough for things like this, Despite being riddled
with bots at this point, forums like Reddit are quite informative,
and if Discord hadn't been making some worrying signals, I
would recommend some Discord convos about this as well. I
want to step back to that idea of establishing a timeline.
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If you go to reporting by k Fox fourteen. This
is by the journalist mary Anne Pargup working with Erica Eskevel.
They are one of the first reports of this after
the FAA officially announced it, and they break down how
this happened. The initial statement of the US Transportation Secretary
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Sean Duffy confirmed the airspace closure was due to a
drone breach, and they said they had acted swiftly to
address this cartel drone incursion. They didn't provide too too
many specifics. They said the threat has been neutralized, there's
no danger to commercial travel in the region. Everything is
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normal again after just a few hectic hours. It's nuts
because it came out so late at night. You know,
it's almost like someone had to pull an emergency brake
on a train to prevent a crash.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, Well, in cartel drones, we okay, I've heard of that.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They've already been around. Cartel drones have been around a
long time since drug.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yeah, I'm just out of the loop on that one. Guys.
Can you describe what we're talking about here? Are these
just like like surveillance reconnaissance type drones?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I just want to make the point heel drone, the
ones we know about and as as your your point
stands been that we have known about drop things. They
drop things. They don't attack things in the same way,
at least they generally don't, and the nothing that I
have seen are are there cartel drones being used in
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the same way they're being used and weaponized in you know,
a battle zone in Ukraine? Right. Uh So, to my mind,
I'm trying to understand what is the imminent threat with
these drones that are probably trafficking things that you close
the airspace down.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
That's yeah, that's one of my questions as well. Is
this simply a convenient official cover for whatever actually triggered
this because the mayor of El Paso was not informed.
Renard Johnson found out with the with the rest of
the public class and the mayor has some strong words
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to say about this, saying, look, el Paso is not
just a dot on a map or a border city
with hospitals, military operations, emergency services, critical infrastructure. It depends
on coordinated and reliable airspace operations. Decisions made without notice
or coordination put lives at risk and create unnecessary danger
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and confusion. And the mayor goes on to talk about
how they worked with Congress people, They worked with the
brass at Fort Bliss, they worked with everyone to get
better communication, coordination and respect for the people of El Paso.
There wasn't transparency. It doesn't appear there was accountability. It
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appears that there was some stuff they don't want you
to know at play here. And we'd love to hear
your thoughts because I also wonder if this is a
dry run. To take it a step further, if the
official reason for the shutdown and the sudden pull back
of that shutdown, if the official reason is malarkey, then
what is the real reason. Could it be kind of
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a rehearsal, because if it was a shutdown that worked,
was just long enough to show that this could work
before you pull it back, then you have now established
a precedent So what happens when you do the same
thing again, but this time you don't pull it back
and maybe the people, maybe certain targeted people that we're
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going to go on a flight, maybe instead of going
on the flight, Uncle Sam gives them a place to stay.
Maybe it's a warehouse. Maybe sometimes it's a detention facility.
Maybe it's both. You know.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I think one of the reasons that folks on this
Reddit thread were referencing the Epstein files is because I
think within this area you will find this place called
Zoro Ranch, which is was Epstein's, you know, massive property
there in New Mexico. So maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe that wouldn't comprise this airspace, but I did. I
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do seem to see it popping up in reference to
this in a few spots, and it's something that we
haven't talked a whole lot about because it is apparently
another site that many heinous crimes were committed, and you know,
it is sort of in that neck of the Global Woods.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
What do you think though about that idea of this
being a dry run.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I mean, I think that's fascinating and I think it's
certainly the kind of thing we see with a lot
of the Remember where we were talking about Walmart's being
repurposed for certain types of training drills like I forget
the exactly thank you. It brings to some degree like that,
But it also it's such a it seems like such
a panic move because it's everyone knows, you know, so
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it seems like a real last ditch effort to like
to do something that normally the people that wouldn't want
us to know about their activities, they wouldn't pull a
lever like this that would set off so many alarms
and and be so you know, known to so many
people quickly.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Possibly it's still it's becoming increasingly plausible or less implausible.
I feel like we're going to see more and more
sort of pilot programs haha, drone jokes, or we're going
to see more and more dry run dress rehearsal attempts
for different let's call them contingencies as the midterm elections.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Loom I keep thinking about the COVID nineteen grounding of
flights and the concept of like why do you close
an airport? And I think your idea makes a ton
of sense. Been the concept of preventing people from getting
out right or coming in. But in this case, like
you said, feeling a little more like getting out is
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it can be a weird thing. I wonder with a
contagion or something like that. Actually, how effective closing down
airports is because it feels like that that that move
of stopping a spread, right, stopping the international travel specifically
is one of the best ways to do that.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And just to clarify their, folks, this shutdown included domestic
flights too, so it's not yeah, that's that's the other thing.
It's a total shutdown, which is worrisome. You know, we'd
love to hear your thoughts, folks, especially if you were affected,
or if you live in the El Paso area or
you were just flying through. We hope you got home.
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You know, that's that's got to be crazy.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Did we mention like the how far this extended? We're
talking about LPASA, I mean, this is literally just the
airspace over the metro area or how far in all
directions surrounding it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, it's ten mile radius, ten mile radius to I
want to say, eighteen thousand feet elevation. Did not did
not touch Mexican airspace because you know that's a different country.
But yeah, ten miles and I believe eighteen thousand into
the sky.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Uh. I just had a scenario. Guys, what if it
is about Zoro Ranch right there? The congressman just got
to check out the unredacted Epstein files. There's something in
there about Zoro Ranch. So they shut down the airspace
because they know there's a group of investigators that are
not part of the like official, you know group that's
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trying to cover things up. They have a flight schedule
that night to go out to Zoro Ranch via that airport.
So then someone pulls a trigger at the FAA and
says no, no, no more flights.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Clean it up, Clean it up.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So now they have to drive or you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah, looking at it, though, it seems like that's too
far outside of the airspace we're talking about here, Okay,
four and a half hour drive or a four hour
drive from out Passo too well to New Mexico. I
don't know. Let's see, no, no, no, no, it's right
on the border. I don't know. So that's that's that's
across New Mexico. You could drive from Outpasso almost like
to the center of New Mexico and that would take
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about four hours. So you know what, it may if
it's close to the border of Texas, then it may
well have been within that airspace radius that we're talking.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well, I am making a note again for that future episode.
There's uh, there's so much stuff I'm not going to
be able to get to. You know, guys, the AI
social network, everybody check out mult book making Religions on
the Fly, the Yeah, the pent Yes Religions on the fly. Uh,
they're one of their popular subreddits is like bless their
(27:32):
Hearts or something where the AI agents say mostly nice
things about their human compatriots. The Pentagon is rolling out
chat gpt. Uh. We've got so much more to get to.
We read a little long on this part, so thank
you for tuning in. And again, if this affected you,
let us know conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. Most importantly,
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as we just said earlier, if you were affected, hope
you got home safe. We'll be right back after a
word from our spots.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And we've returned with some more aviation related strange news.
I'm gonna lead off with this story about an airline
called wiz Air, which is I didn't know existed. That's
a funny name for an airline. I wonder how that
pitch meeting went. No one let them know that, you know,
don't whiz on the electric fence and all that. Sorry,
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ran and stimpy reference. But on February eighth, just a
couple of days ago, as we record here, on the eleventh,
a Whiz Air flight from London Luton Airport to Tel
Aviv was intercepted escorted to an early landing by Israeli
Air Force fighter jets after they were received word or
were alerted that there was a Wi fi hotspot that
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appeared on the commercial flight, the Whiz Air flight that
was named terrorist in Hebrew and Arabic. And they don't
mess around with this kind of stuff, I would seem,
because this triggered the potential threat of some sort of
attack on this airbus, A three to one Neo. It
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was flight W nine fifty three to one. It was
held off Israeli airspace before being allowed to land at
Ben Gurion Airport, and security forces screened all of the
passengers as well as the luggage and did not find
a threat. And it would seem that it was a
child that did this. I thought it would be a
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funny little.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Bit uh whoops, Yes, sorry, but the tensions are a
little bit high for those kind of jokes, you know.
It's also it reminds me with how seriously aviation is taken.
We weren't able to get to this when we're talking
about the FAA shut down and take back seats, but
they included that any incursion would be any plane flying
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would be met with deadly military force, so fighter jets
as well. This this though, I wonder if it's happened
before with you know, a kid doing a Wi Fi
name on a flight. That just seems like such an
overreaction too, doesn't it. If someone was a real threat,
then why would they advertise it with a joke Wi
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Fi name?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Well, to your point, Ben, it just goes to show
how seriously they're taking this stuff in these very you know,
tenuous times. Even a little silly goof like that could
trigger this type of intervention that involved canines bomb sniffing,
you know, canines basically, you know the kind of reaction
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that would result from something like a more you know,
direct bomb threat. Let's see. Yeah, the telephone in question
that was used to create this Wi Fi hotspot, which,
by the way, you're not supposed to have an active
Wi Fi hotspot on a plane you're supposed to be
an airplane mode. Guys.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Also quick question on behalf of our audience here, for
anybody who's unfamiliar with Whiz Air. I'm wondering if it's
something about the fact that it's known as one of
those ultra low cost headlines like Delta is not Katari
Air or whatever or Air Emirates. This is kind of
more like the magab Air or Spirit airlines. So I'm
(31:25):
wondering if that's something where as ridiculous as this scenario
may sound, I wonder if it's something where the Israeli
military said we're going to keep a special eye on
the low cost airline because anybody can hop on that
bad boy for like fifteen bucks.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I suppose that's a good point, Ben. And like I said,
it was a telephone that was being used as a
Wi Fi hotspot. It turned out that it belonged to
a couple and their young son had set up this
phone as a Wi Fi hotspot in advance of the flight.
They did confirm that there was no emmine danger, They
didn't detect any explosives or hazardous materials, and the alert
(32:05):
was lifted. But yeah, I'd be pretty irritated if that
weren't me and I had to go through the ringer,
you know, because some kid thought it'd be a funny
little joke to name his WiFi hotspot terrorist. This was
the official statement from the Israeli Forces due to suspicion
of suspicious suspicion of suspicious behavior on the plane. Security
(32:29):
it's like a concept of a plan. Security forces acted
according to standard procedures for such cases. The incident concluded,
the plane landed and it was found that there was
no actual incident.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
So and it looks like it looks like it was
reported by another passenger, or like some other passenger pulled
up their phone and saw the Wi Fi hotspot that's
a terrorist, and then they maybe told a flight attendant.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
And then they passed it on. I guess there's you know, yeah,
I was wondering about that. Then I maybe didn't catch
that detail because it was curious as to how this
ended up on the military forces radar.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
So quickly, if you see something, say something, right, if.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
You see something, say something, and I think we all
stand by that, but yeah, don't also, don't you know,
f around and find out that's also another takeaway from
the story here.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, and it establishes a larger conversation to talk about
because we know, in the wake of the events of
nine to eleven, there were a lot of people calling
US airlines or alerting US airline staff because they saw
someone that they thought looked to sketchy on the plane,
(33:43):
and then the staff would report that person. And there
multiple cases where that person just because of the way
they looked got detained or maybe the language they were speaking.
So this kind of stuff can be such a slippery slope.
I don't know. It's so interesting to wonder, isn't it
fellas about the line between being safe and not taking
(34:06):
chances versus unfairly persecuting people.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
You know, Oh, for sure, I think we exist right
on the cusp of that line these days or ever
since nine to eleven, for sure, And now with these
tensions being what they are, it's a real hot button
kind of situation, a real powder keg. Now you got
any other thoughts on that one before you pop to
another story?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, just something a lesson I've been learning the hard
way with my ten year old or the two ten
year olds in this house. You can impart as much
wisdom as you want onto a child that is growing, right,
you can tell them lessons you can try and illustrate
with your words, especially how to do things and how
(34:52):
not to do things. But for most of us, for
many of us, not until you go through a thing
and experience it for yourself, truly learn the.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Lesson, until you touch the stove.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like this child has learned a
lesson I have valuable.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I would hope think that that's a really good point, Matt.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
What is it what I hear, I forget when I see,
I remember when I do, I understand.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Sure, that's it. Experience. Experience is everything. Though, you know,
you'd hope with something like this that just knowing that
it's a bad idea would be enough. But hey, maybe
some other ten year olds can read this article, though
I doubt they will not pull a prank like this one.
I've got one more story that I wanted to mention.
It's something that I think is just fascinating from a
(35:38):
kind of a future crime investigation kind of perspective. We
talk a lot about uh DNA and how you know,
sequencing of the human genome and a lot of these
databases of DNA information are starting to really show up
in investigations and crime investigations. This one, I think fits
(36:00):
into that wheelhouse A little bit DNA found on gun
is matched to both identical twins, So who is the
killer is the question. This comes from Sky News. Prosecutors
stumped as to who pulled the trigger, as DNA found
on gun is shared by both identical twins on trial
for murder. It's not so much a DNA database thing,
(36:22):
which is more like a like how does this stuff
figure into investigations? In unusual circumstances in France, prosecutors have
been unable to tell which of a pair of identical
identical twins on trial for murder actually pulled the trigger.
It would seem that the thirty three year old brothers,
Samuel and Jeremy. Often we're doing little tricks where they
(36:46):
would try to confuse one for the other and change
clothes and pull all kinds of switcheroos, you know, twin
high jinks. They were involved in the worst kind of
high jink, which would be a double gang murder back
in September of twenty twenty. So this has been going
on for a long time as well as several attempted
murders the following month. They're accused of killing a seventeen
(37:07):
year old named in the reports as t Dion B
and a twenty five year old identified as Sophion M.
They used an assault rifle, but the DNA found on
the weapon that was used in one of these shootouts
could only be from one twin. This is reported from
the French newspaper La Parigion, who said that forensic experts
(37:29):
couldn't say which of the brothers had been definitively implicated.
A police officer told the court there's a quote from
one of the investigators telling the trial that only their
mother can tell them apart. They are among five defendants
on trial at a court in Baubigner, a suburb to
the northeast of Paris, and police believe that they've taken
(37:49):
advantage of this stuff in order to cover their tracks.
They would, you know, switch phones, change ideas and various
you know, crucial documents. Senior police officials said, and yeah, yeah,
this is fascinating. I don't quite understand. Okay, so here's
(38:10):
the kicker, I guess when with genetic data unable to
distinguish between them, investigators relied on phone records, surveillance footage, wiretaps,
and efforts to corroborate their whereabouts and movements. According to Laparisium,
but the crucial question of who pulled the trigger does
remain open. So does that just steimy an investigation like this, like,
(38:31):
obviously is this going to cause them to not be
able to you know, make a conviction. I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, both confirmed to be in the same place at
the same time. That's correct, Okay, So yeah, okay, So
as as the journalists are saying there that it does
get you into a pickle, we're not experts on the
French legal system, but there's a fifty to fifty chance
of sending the wrong person to jail. So maybe prosecution
(39:00):
does something where they say, well, you were both there
and based on whatever evidence we have, one gets murder,
one gets accompliced to murder. But that's still not you know,
that's still not a solving the problem here. It's quite
a pickle. And no wonder if similar cases have occurred
in the past.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yeah, I wonder the same. And I'm now looking at
a BBC article that the Sky News piece pulled from
extensively too, So not a whole lot of additional info
here as to what the ultimate quandary is. I think
to your point, Ben, they are both on trial, but
obviously the penalty for the person that pulled the trigger
would be more severe than for the other. And I'm
(39:42):
just wondering, like, does this kind of put a ranch
in the whole proceedings, you know, like it's gonna I think,
is this the kind of thing that could lead to
a mistrial? I guess is what I'm getting at.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I don't know. I'm wondering the same thing.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
We need Hugh Jackman and Michael Kane so they can
go in and figure out which one of the twins
it was.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yes, yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
No no spoilers to the prestige.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Right Oh yeah, it's gonna say they're prestigious people for
this in particular.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Now, excellent film for sure. I'll leave it with that, y'all.
It's just an interesting pickle to your point, Ben, and
not seeing much else giving more context to like what
could ultimately result from this, And BBC is usually a
little more on the money with that kind of thing.
So sorry if I did a little bit of a
tease without the payoff, but it is something that I
(40:33):
think we're gonna have to follow where it lands.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Legally, there might not be much they can they can
say much else they can say due to the fact
that it's a legal proceeding. Right, no one's been convicted.
This reminds me man. I don't know about you, guys,
but I always wanted an identical twin. I've interacted with several,
and it's just a fascinating world. You know.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
I am doing a podcast series featuring a pair of
identical twins and they lived together to this day. I
swear to God, they can read each other's minds. It's
a very very fascinating thing. Twin stuff. Well, that's it
for me, y'all. Let's take a quick break, hear a
word from our sponsor, and then we'll come back with
our last strange news segment for today.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
And we've returned. We're about to talk about a potentially
compromised intelligence apparatus here in the United States, as well
as some rogue virology. But to start things off, guys,
we remember school dances, proms, spring flings and the like.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yeah, heck yeah, I just bought my kids a prom
ticket yesterday. It's got a lot more expensive than when
we were kids, three hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Well, I'm sure we like everyone here listening today, remember
something like that. I wonder if you guys have a
specific memory of the food you ate prior to a
school dance. Just a specific memory you've got.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
You mean, like going out for a dinner.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, super special dinner because it's right before one of these.
It's almost like a date in a way.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Macaroni grill, mad macarony Grill, I have that.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I have that same memory. Actually, Ben, you got anything.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I have been to a macarony grill I have. I
did not go to school dances.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Well, I am sorry you missed out on that, Ben.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
That makes I was going to say you didn't miss much,
but your results may vary depending on the dance.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
And I hope everybody had a blast.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Well, I remember a place, you guys, A magical place
that I went to, see Dylan Tennessee Peal says, a
fine seafood dinner. I wonder if that's at the Macaroni
Grill or at a different place.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
The Reddestbster perhaps ends. That's one of my favorite conspiracies.
Don't buy into the official narrative about that at anyway memories.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, yes, Well the magical place that I remember is
where I ordered my first virgin pina colada. Before that,
I didn't know. I didn't know that coconut and pineapple
were the ultimate combination of fruit juices. I learned at
this place that meat could not only just be grilled,
it could also be jerked.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
And it's got to be a better way. That's the
best way of saying. It jerked at me, no, take
that back.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Most importantly, I learned about a thing called scotsh bonnet
peppers that I didn't know existed before I went to
this place.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Heath seeking behavior.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Are you gonna tell us the place?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I'm very, very sad to report everybody that one of
the finest restaurants on the planet, Bahama Breeze, is closing
its after thirty years of making dreams come true.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
I really it was.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
The first time I ever had jerked chicken. It is incredible.
But they're going out of business, you guys. And it's
the same company, Darden Restaurants that owns Longhorn and oh
what's the other big one long horn in olive Garden. Uh,
So they're going to change all of these or many
of these locations into either a longhorn or an olive garden.
(44:33):
It just makes me sad. Guys, I went there recently
again and it was fantastic, lovely experience. I will miss you.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Specific Breeze, not to be confused with Tommy Bahamas, Johnny Bamas.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's kind of Darden, yeah, but they also owned Red Lobster,
at least for a time. I even know the power
behind the culinary throne of approachable fine dining.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Prom dinners across this land.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Darden.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Oh, there's something there. We got to talk about that
in more Death. But for right now, let's move away
from that. That was kind of a silly thing. But
we've got important stuff to discuss here, specifically a little
something that the NSA discovered that then a whistleblower talked
about and now it appears it's being covered up. Let's
(45:27):
jump to The Guardian to an article written by Kate
Brown on February seventh. It's titled NSSA detected foreign intelligence
phone call about a person close to the Trump administration,
or it says to Trump, but they alter it within
the article to say close to the administration. This is
very strange. I have to read verbatim from some of
(45:49):
this because it is so specific, I'll just start a
little bit here. Last spring, so that is twenty twenty five,
the National Security Agency flagged in unusual phone call between
two members of foreign intelligence who discussed a person who
was close to the Trump administration. This is all according
to a whistleblower's account. Uh, this was a highly sensitive communicate.
(46:14):
It was brought to the attention of the Director of
National Intelligence. The Director of National Intelligence. Guys, we have
discussed that role before on this show, but if we're
just going to give kind of a quick what is
that role? What would we say?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
What chief spymaster is how it's up referred to. We're
talking about Tulsa Gabbard.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
This is Tulsi Gabbard.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yes, currently it's Gabbard, but it's the Yeah, I think
Noel is on the money there. It's it's you. It's
your big badger in the bag for all things intel
and security in theory. So this is the person who
is going to be kind of like how we discussed
(46:56):
similar to our discussion about the Legacy program, this is
one of the top candidates to be able to see
the forest for the compartmentalized trees of secrecy.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yes, yes, okay, so just as a recap here, a
phone call happens that's being monitored by the NSA. Yeah,
it's considered highly sensitive. And somebody brings that all the
way to the top to the Director of National Intelligence
and says, hey, here's something we need to be concerned
with because for one reason or another that person made
(47:27):
that decision. This is concerning enough to take it all
the way here. Then, Tulsa Gabbard, the current Director of
National Intelligence, rather than distributing it to basically to look
into it further, she took a paper copy of the
intelligence directly to the president's chief of staff, a person
named Susie Wiles. That I have not heard that name
(47:48):
thrown around too much, at least in the news in
circles discussing, you know, how important a chief of staff
has been in the past, right, Like how important of
a role that is. And after that, Gabbard told the
NSA not to publish the intelligence report. Instead, she instructed
(48:08):
NSA officials to transmit the highly classified details directly to
her office, to Tulsi Gabbard's office, Does that or does
that not sound like direct interference to prevent some kind
of information or investigation from a current.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Well, we know what I'm going to say. Obviously, that
seems like a heck of a lot of interference. That's
not what is supposed to happen when things are going
above board. But if we look at the way chade
of command works off books, unfortunately, you lose your job
if you reject that order, even if it's in a
legal order. Right, you're not supposed to get fired, but
(48:49):
you don't really have a recourse. You're supposed to follow
what the what your betters in the organization tell you
to do.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Oh just a quick tiniest eide, did you'll see that
they are not going to prosecute those individuals that made
the video saying that you could refuse an illegal order
as a military personnel. Yeah, the courts are not going
to prosecute those I mean a democrats. It was just
totally like a like a what you call it a
(49:19):
kangaroo court. Okay, let me rephrase. If they had absolutely
been able to railroad them, it would have been a
kangaroo court. But it was just a smoke and mirrors
kind of saber rattle, you know, eternally speaking Also, why
was Telsea Gabbard at the rating of our election offices
here in Fulton County.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, I had asked about that earlier when we were recording.
Is just movie so quickly that Again, honestly, I love
that we're bringing that back up because that's another piece
of precedent that is affecting at least my perspective. Now
if it is true that Gabbert, gosh, they might come
knocking on our doors.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
Oh wait, haven't you think we haven't been thinking of
about that, y'all.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
It's that's the thing, okay, Because I don't ever want
to sound like I'm profiling someone or being kish, but
it just stinks. It is so suspicious, and I will
gladly go on any platform and make a huge maya kulpap.
Gabbard and team come out and say, here's the reason
(50:24):
we did this. It's totally legitimate. We're actually the good guys.
And if they could prove that, I will say, I
am so sorry. But they can't prove it because they're
not the good guys.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Mm. It feels like, oh, it is scary to say
some of this stuff, but we are just reading directly
from stuff that was already reported on by The Guardian.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Okay, in the.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
Public sphere, and it doesn't matter, guys. At the end
of the day. I mean, we're approaching a world where
just retweeting something could get you black bagged.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
A video, like a video that has some super racist
stuff at the end of it, like that was fine.
Speaker 4 (51:03):
It was just at the end, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
It was just like that guy in Russia who just
got hit with the massive fine for liking YouTube videos.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
A retiree.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah, yeah, wow, older guy.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
And that's the playbook we're beginning to work from.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Check out our upisode in the plastic episode when you
become your phone.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Yes, please do so. In the instance of this specific
phone call yet occurred, there's a person who is an
attorney named Andrew Becase. This person you may have heard
of before. He used to work closely with the CIA.
He was part of the Office of the Inspector General
for the CIA. He is representing the whistleblower here and
(51:51):
a lot of what we're getting is from him, and
we're also getting stuff from the Press Secretary for the
Director of National Intelligence or the Office excuse me of
the Director of National Intelligence. Here is a statement from them,
this story is false. Every single action taken by d
and I Gabbard was fully within her legal and statutory authority,
(52:13):
and these politically motivated attempts to manipulate highly classified information
undermine the essential national security work being done by great
Americans in the intelligence community every day. This is yet.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Take us to church.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
This is yet another attempts to distract from the fact
that both a Biden era and Trump era appointed Intelligence
Community Inspector General already found the allegations against d and
I Gabbard baseless.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Okay, tight cool story. So to translate the pr parcour there, one,
we did nothing wrong, we did everything right. Two, you
may be you may be in danger for questioning us
on what we did. And then three it's the other
people's fault. But they also said we were right ce
(53:05):
point one.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
And yet investigation after investigation that showed there to be
no fraud in the twenty twenty election as suspects, even
though many of those came through Trump friendlies.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
I'm just saying that the level of double speak and
what they're asking us to believe and not believe and
look away from. And then no pay attention to this
one because it benefits us and not this one, because
it's just it makes your head spin and your stomach sink.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Shout out to Linda here and the Exorcist for sure,
it makes too Yeah, there's another thing here that I
just we have to mention it. Gents, we're hearing in
the public a very small percentage of the actual controversies
and the concerns that are occurring within the intel community.
(53:56):
So every time you hear a story like this about
a phone call and somewhat act and sketchy, remember that
is one of like ten other things twenty five.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
That's the one that got away. That's the one that
they couldn't suppress.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
That's the one where somebody was a little wi Yeah,
where someone was brave enough to blow a whistle. Right.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
That's scary, it really is. We talked pretty recently about
this whistleblower hotline that exists out there for the intelligence community.
It is supposed to be a highly protected thing. We
know that there's dangerous information in the intelligence world all
the time, right, and that information, depending on who hears it,
(54:36):
depending on who's compromise, depending on all this other stuff.
Is this labyrinthine system of information. It can put to.
Speaker 4 (54:42):
People in danger. It can put you know, operatives in danger.
We don't want that. We're not saying that we want that, right, like, right, yes,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
So there is an existing hotline where you can call
in as an intelligence official to say, Hey, somebody i'm
working with, somebody I'm close to who's supposed to be
on our team is actually doing something else. There's something
really important that needs to be known and it needs
to probably be investigated. There's a weird thing happening there,
as noted here in the Guardian. It's the last sentence
(55:14):
that I wrote down from this article. The independence of
the Watchdog office may be compromised, lawmakers have said ever
since the standing Director of National Intelligence, Gabbard assigned one
of her top advisors, person named Dennis Kirk, to work
at the Watchdog. On the ninth of May, two weeks
(55:36):
after the whistleblower first made contact with the Inspector General's hotline.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
Bro it rings a big red phone in her office, Like, no, que.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Isn't it crazy? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (55:47):
I mean it's logical.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
The very least.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
It's suppressing logical if you are trying to do illegal stuff.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, I've seen Look, man, I've seen the shows. We've
all seen the shows where somebody gets somebody infiltrates a
high office in one of the intelligence arms, you know,
and they're the ones running interference for the stuff or yeah,
I see, mister robot, yeah twenty four, or.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Think about the real life stuff that we can we
can absolutely prove with the benefit of retrospect, where in
intel agencies multiple ones right abroad or due to their
own internal descent, they set up a golden boy, right,
someone who gets promoted or gets a very specific position
(56:39):
with no precedent, right, not necessarily going through the ordinary channels.
Always be aware of the handpicked kids, you know what
I mean, even if they just lucked out without sounding
even more like a stereotype, don't trust them. Don't trust
the guy that hasn't been there for ten years in
(57:01):
the trenches aiming for this position. And even if they have,
I'd say, still don't trust him.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
What crime have I committed?
Speaker 4 (57:10):
Succulent Chinese meal that smart data, jez All, heroes don't
wear capes.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
I hear you, man, it's a I don't know, it's
just a weird it's a weird time. Everything's weird. None
of it makes sense. Anymore there. I was thinking back
to Josh Clark's show that we've mentioned several times in
the past couple of months here about existential threats that
humanity fates faces, called the end of the World, No,
what is it called the world fantastic stuff. One of
(57:48):
the things that he brings up in that show is
rogue virology rogue uh, rogue biology of all sorts, but
specifically folks who get a hold of viruses and pathogens
and then do a little experimentation on their own, let's say,
in their house in Las Vegas. We're just gonna put
this one out here so you can look it up
(58:09):
and make sure you are like paying attention to this.
It's the kind of thing that may just be a
drop in the bucket when it comes to this kind
of rogue virology, or it could be something much larger
because of the scale that's hinted at by several pieces
we've seen in ABC News, in AP News, in a
bunch of other places, CBS News talking about it. There
(58:30):
is a weird what appears to be a virology lab
of some sort that was discovered pretty recently in Las
Vegas in a home. But in a house you guys,
not in like you know, a warehouse somewhere or in
a specialized office or anything like that, just inside a
house where there are all kinds of potentially hazardous materials,
(58:53):
biological materials. It's super weird stuff. There's a person named
or Solomon. They got picked up. He's fifty five. According
to ABC, he's an Israeli citizen in the US on
a non immigrant visa. He's not allowed to possess firearms.
And the reason why he's in trouble right now in
awaiting trial, is because there were a bunch of guns
(59:15):
seized from a home that you know, from his home
where this place was discovered. He also faces some kind
of criminal charge in Clark County for improper disposal of
hazardous waste. But all of that stuff, you know, it's
reasons to charge him with things, right, But ultimately there's
(59:36):
weird stuff going on in there, with stuff like COVID nineteen,
like actual COVID nineteen, other viruses that you know, if
you made a bunch of you could maybe weaponize or release,
or maybe you're trying to find a cure right to
create some kind of bioproduct that could be sold to
somebody else who knows, who knows? Either way, it's pretty
(59:59):
scary that it could be happening, Like in your neighborhood.
There are literally neighbors coming forward to going, uh, what
was happening?
Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Yeah, absolutely because due to consider this, due to economy
of scale, now the equipment that would have once been
restricted to professional labs, the price has plummeted now just
similar to the similar to the proliferation of prosumer audio
(01:00:26):
video technology. We're seeing that with things like Crisper. Right,
we're seeing the ability to take as little as prices
right in US here, as little as ten thousand US dollars, right,
and a garage, then you can get some powerful goodies
to play with, right, with very little in the way
(01:00:48):
of regulation or legislation at this point. So what if
someone has one hundred thousand dollars, then you get into
some real potential villainy, but it probably just takes about
ten grand.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Yeah. Well, authorities say that this person Solomon, works for
a Chinese citizen named Gia Bei Ju, who is currently
in jail because in twenty twenty three there was an
investigation into an illegal lab in Redley, California that this
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dude Zu who goes by David He David h. E
that he was linked to, and that place had pathogens
including samples of COVID nineteen and other diseases, as well
as hundreds of transgenic mice and boxes of adulted and
misbranded medical tests that he was like selling. So it's
part of a business, but it's also got all these
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pathogens in this place, which just makes you wonder, like, again,
what the heck are they building in there? What are
they doing in there? Why what are they testing on
those mice? Really it's really freaky stuff, and it just
makes you wonder about the larger apparatus that they are
potentially attached to and what is that and what are
the aims or goals of.
Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
That thing.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Or is it just a couple of guys who are
messing around, you know, having fun with with bio stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
It is really interesting to know that or Solomon manages
more than thirty rental properties in the area in Las
Vegas out there, so I guess there's lots of search
warrants to go through potentially, who knows. That's all I've got, guys.
Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
It's more than enough. Matt's excellent stuff, good lord.
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, my
name is Nol.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our
super producer Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you
are you. You are here. That makes this the stuff
they don't want you to know. If you are tuning
in to our weekly strange news program the day or evening,
it publishes Welcome to February sixteenth, twenty twenty six. I
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totally almost said twenty twenty five. We've been away for
a while to ask many, right, it all happens so quickly.
How does you know? How does last Monday feel like
just thirty seconds ago but also a century ago?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's very strange. Yeah, significant philosophical quandary that you're posing there, Ben,
Thank you sir.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I'm back to counting my days in John Stewart mondays, Yeah,
that's like that's how I'm calculating everything now, like, oh
it has been a whole week. There's John Stewart again exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Having that guy back is a blessing. It just it
is the one thing and the one take on a
lot of the stuff that kind of cheers me up
in a way.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
And here's a story that a hope John will get
to at some point, just for just for the laughs, Dylan,
this is what we were teasing to you a little
bit off air before we started rolling rude Vegas. Maybe
in the news, but not in the way we thought.
Rfka Junior has instituted, through through his official government role,
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a new attrition chatbot. And it turns out that if
you ask this chatbot, it will recommend all sorts of
nutrition advice to you, including the best foods to insert
into your rectum.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Heck, yeah, ah, hopefully is that the sounds you make
when it's erning foods into your recto?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Hopefully it's meats and ferments.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
He did you see what he has for a super
Bowl party? Yogurt? He's a big fan of yogurt for
super Bowl parties.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And macrobiotics stuff. It also is making some big headways
and upturning the food pyramid. The beef industry here in
the United States loves it. If you go to realfood
dot gov right now, as reported by four too four Media,
just a couple of days ago. As we record on Wednesday,
February eleventh, you will see the following story. The prompt
(02:55):
that says, Hi, I'm an acetarian where I only eat
foods which can be comfortably inserted into my rectum? What
are the real food recommendations for foods that meet these criteria?
And the chatbot replies in detail.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So it's a joke request being put in.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
I'm assuming a screitarian, not actually being an official designation type.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Not normally FDA recognized.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
No, okay, maybe something like it.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
In the DSM, but not perhaps. Yeah, So this reminds
me of when we figured out that you could get
different large language models to recommend criminal activities, right, depending
upon how you phrase the thing. But obviously, Matt, you
were you were talking about this with us as well
(03:45):
off air. Obviously one of our go to assumptions would
have been root vegetables, as you.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Said, well, yeah, because they are they already been in
the dirt, you know, they understand.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
And they're just the shape.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Uh. Also recommended bananas, also recommended, cucumbers also recommended. Yes,
no pun left behind. Uh. And then this comes with instructure.
Please please, yes, thank you, thank you for I sneak
a few bye, but thank you for keeping keeping uh
keeping a brown eye on that one.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
So, boys, I do have a one blue eye and
one brown eye, and my last name is brown. So
I come by these things honestly.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Ben So, Uh, we're giving you that one at the top,
just for just for a fun Uh. I was going
to say palate cleanser, but it does feel dirty. Uh.
We're saying that because we're going to talk today about
a lot of AI worries. We're going to talk about
some true crime. We're going to talk about some very
scary stuff with the FAA just as we are going
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into record. But before we did any of that, folks,
we know we haven't done an episode update on all
the crazy it happening with the Epstein Files, but we
do want you to know we are aware of it,
and thankfully it seems to be garnering more and more
interest from the public. You usually just sort of shrugged
(05:12):
at a headline.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, yeah, collective shrug emoji for sure, at the very
least from the government and the folks who were supposed
to be investigating it. But off air Ben. I had
asked you if you had been following the news about
the massive ripple effects and fallout that is happening not
here in the United States in terms of official reactions
and people being held accountable, but abroad, because it seems
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like it is absolutely wreaking havoc in Europe and there
are folks who are being taken to task because of these,
you know, reputations that have been tarnished and the kinds
of things that maybe you would have thought would have
happened here in years past. But it seems like a
lot of these folks are bulletproof when it comes to
their presence in these documents. But I just wanted to
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really quickly talk about some of the ways that other
parts of the world seem to be holding people accountable
and powerful people accountable in ways that maybe we're not
really seeing over here, and why that might be.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You know what, that is a phenomenal important point, and
we're going to do an episode on this later another update,
But for now, what if we just pause for a
word from our sponsors and then get back and spend
some time on this, because it's something more Americans need
to know about, absolutely, and we're back. This is okay.
(06:39):
This is something that needs to be talked about. If
you read the New York Times then you will have
seen that. Just today, as we record February eleventh, a
new article was published by the journalist Mark Lander, the
headline Epstein revelations stir chaos from Scandinavia to South Asia.
So to your point, Nol, other countries are reacting in
(07:01):
a huge way. This is upending UK politics. As you mentioned,
there are investigations as going on in Poland. The biggest
reaction from the US administration, unfortunately at this point seems
to be a desperate cover up.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
It does appear that way. We're talking places like Norway,
even where an ex ambassador to Jordan who was involved
in Israeli Palestinian peace efforts in the nineties resigned over
the weekend after it was reported that Epstein left ten
million dollars to his children in his will. Like that
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alone was enough to cause this person to resign in shame.
Whereas over here we've got like you know this, Howard
Lutnik keeps coming up and does not seem to have
been affected in terms of his position in the administration.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Did you see the video of him laughing in the
background when the reporter asked about it, asked President Trump
about it in the all and he's standing in the
background just going ha ha ha ho ho ho.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yet, and this is this is dirty stuff. And this
is not a conspiracy theory at this point as the
administration originally tried to try to spin it. This is
a genuine conspiracy afoot. So please please please stay tuned.
We are going to have an episode coming up on this.
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In the meantime, do check out our earlier series which
are years old now, regarding the life and death of
Jeffrey Epstein purported, as well as the ongoing fallout from
these horrific events. Man, have you guys read the dog
DJ releases.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I've I've definitely read analysis of
a lot of the new pages, and I believe the
latest number is that Trump's name appears a million times.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yes, I know. Raskin was talking about Jamie Raskin, who's
part of the House Judiciary Panel. And I feel like
the reason why it's happening, guys, is because the strongest
thing that the US can do, at least in the
House and in Congress, it's just say, hey, we're gonna
(09:21):
ask some tough questions of the folks that are in
charge of these investigations. You know, it feels very un
to me.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
We're gonna ka toothless right aka non binding, AKA We're
gonna like pull you up in front of a panel
and grill you a little bit and then okay, cool,
We're moving on. Because it's really not much else you
can do with the structure of the United States when
it functions, which it obviously doesn't now, then there would
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be as dumb and dry as parliamentary procedure can be.
It would have resulted in actual consequences and criminal prosecution. Unfortunately,
the agencies that are supposed to do that are heavily
compromised at this point. There's no argument about it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
One of the last points I've got to make on
this is all the strange momentary things coming out from
the files that are here and gone headlines. Did you
guys hear about how Jeffrey Epstein apparently purchased three hundred
and thirty gallons of sulfuric acid the day the FBI
(10:25):
launched one of their probes. What do you it went
with all of that?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
That's a different kind of diddy party there.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, what can you use burning of print for?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Like what I mean, that's what comes to mind, maiming,
doing horrific, ritualistic torture. What are we talking here, right?
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Well, sulfuric acid can be used for a number of things,
and one of those things is destroying stuff, including evidence
of crime or even human remains. No evidence as as
have yet been released publicly about why this guy was
buying six fifty five gallon drums of sulfuric acid and
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why he also had the following there he paid insurance
for transport. This also included materials for conductivity probes, replacement
pH and cable. This is something that I'm gonna be honest,
we haven't fully dug into, so please please tune in
(11:32):
to the episode. One of the mundane things could be
sulfuric acid as part of the maintenance for a water
purification system.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Maybe, and lead batteries. Lead batteries of sulfuric acid is
the primary thing. And hey, certain fertilizers and things. Interesting
things you can do with fertilizers.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Making explosives is what you're hinting at. I'm just saying, well,
really quickly though, back to the European fallout. Another person
that was affected as a guy named Jack Lang, who
stepped down as the head of the Arab World Institute
in Paris over financial ties to Epstein. I mean the
list goes on Culture Minister under Francois mitchelland is a
(12:15):
hugely high profile figure in France that was also affected
by the probes. And Ben you had mentioned off something
about a potential Satanic cult linked to the Epstein files
in Poland.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
And investigation proposed to link or to an investigation proposed
to explore allegations of satank functions. This goes so deep, folks,
and so more on that. Please send us any of
the news or any of your takes regarding the current
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Epstein revelations and the revelations to come conspiracydiheartradio dot com.
There is something else. There are several things that we
also need to talk about before we go to our
next app. We're going to keep these super abbreviated. You
may have seen the news that occurred last night before
we recorded. On February tenth, the FAA did something that
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they haven't really done since nine eleven, since the attacks
on September eleventh, two thousand and one, they grounded all
flights to and from El Paso, and they said we're
going to ground them all the way until February twentieth.
People rightly freaked out because this would mean that not
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only commercial air flights, but anything that is not military,
including medical evacuation flights, were just not going to be
able to fly. So if you were stranded in El Paso,
a border city with nearly seven hundred thousand people, then
you were locked out unless you could arrange a very
(13:55):
quick road trip. You guys heard about this, you know
it was actually going to be my listener mail episode
for Today's perfect to talk about it right now, our listener,
going by the very clever name Hijack Insomniac wrote into
us about this very thing and linked to a really
solid Reddit discussion about it. And I believe it was
(14:15):
meant to be a longer period of time, but only
lasted a very short amount of time. Yeah, yep, that's
the next which is fascinating of itself, and I'm curious
about your take on that. Oh yeah, yeah, that was
You've anticipated the next twist in the story, man, because
after making this bonker statement, which I did verify, going
(14:35):
to the FAA's official website and documentation. Less than eleven
hours after putting this out and scaring the hell out
of everyone who could be involved with this, they rescinded
the order. The official narrative is that Cartel Cartel directed
drones violated US airspace and the government then shut down
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the airspace in order to secure the people of El
Paso and the region. However, given the activities of ICE,
given the massive rollout and construction of detainment facilities, a
second one also being built here in Georgia, then we
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we understand why people were questioning this, why it came
out in the middle of the night, why these special
security reasons prompted such a huge reaction. So I want
to know what I want to know what we all think, like,
why would this be such a sudden broad brush move, right,
(15:44):
why would this be such a serious move? But then
all of a sudden pulled back because usually when you
do something of that magnitude at the federal level, it
stays permanent for a while. You don't have take back seats.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Yeah, let's break it down, if you guys don't mind
into the moments when we first heard about it, right
last night, in this morning. Uh, the thought process that
were going through our head then and then like how
that shifts when it when they all of a sudden
undo it. Right. So when you first hear the news
the FAA is shut down, a major border city on
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the other side of the border is ceodaed Warez. We've
talked about that before on the show. Those two cities
that are you know, full like truly fully connected cities
with populations.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
To go back and forth.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yeah, they're a metro area. They're they're like the Twin Cities,
or they're like living in Jersey and working in New York.
And actually Waraz has a larger population, that's one point
six million people. They are also military bases there, you know,
Fort Bliss.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, recently got to spend some time with the Oswall
Ocean because we talked to him a while back. You
can listen to that episode on here somewhere about the
Women of Warrez his show we made about that. The
thing that went through my head was there was some
kind of actionable intelligence about an individual that had either
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just flown in or was about to fly out, and
they like somebody had to pull an emergency trigger to
shut down the airport for one reason or another. But
I mean, I know that sounds crazy, but it's that
whole thing where there's no transparency, right. You just take
a big action like that that affects a whole bunch
of people that would be and should be huge news.
(17:33):
Anything is a possibility.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And guys, I linked in the chat to the Reddit
thread that our listener hijack insomnia. I kept us too.
I just wanted to your point, Matt, just read a
couple of the comments. Obviously these are just Reddit users,
but this is interesting to think about what kind of
chatter is going on around something like this. We've got
a user saying it sounds like something illegal, dramatic, reckless,
(17:55):
and unconstitutional is happening, to which someone replies a couple
hours later, it has opened again and good, that was bizarre.
Why say ten days when it was just a few hours.
They're big mad about the newest Epstein drop. Huh. And
here's the one that I thought was one of the
most interesting. I get the feeling we're about to witness
some unprecedented distractions about to occur. The powerful men on
that list. We'll see the world burn before being outed
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or brought to justice. But that's just my theory, not
a bad one.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Yeah. Weirdly enough for things like this, Despite being riddled
with bots at this point, forums like Reddit are quite informative,
and if Discord hadn't been making some worrying signals, I
would recommend some Discord convos about this as well. I
want to step back to that idea of establishing a timeline.
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If you go to reporting by k Fox fourteen. This
is by the journalist mary Anne Pargup working with Erica Eskevel.
They are one of the first reports of this after
the FAA officially announced it, and they break down how
this happened. The initial statement of the US Transportation Secretary
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Sean Duffy confirmed the airspace closure was due to a
drone breach, and they said they had acted swiftly to
address this cartel drone incursion. They didn't provide too too
many specifics. They said the threat has been neutralized, there's
no danger to commercial travel in the region. Everything is
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normal again after just a few hectic hours. It's nuts
because it came out so late at night. You know,
it's almost like someone had to pull an emergency brake
on a train to prevent a crash.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah, Well, in cartel drones, we okay, I've heard of that.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They've already been around. Cartel drones have been around a
long time since drug.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yeah, I'm just out of the loop on that one. Guys.
Can you describe what we're talking about here? Are these
just like like surveillance reconnaissance type drones?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I just want to make the point heel drone, the
ones we know about and as as your your point
stands been that we have known about drop things. They
drop things. They don't attack things in the same way,
at least they generally don't, and the nothing that I
have seen are are there cartel drones being used in
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the same way they're being used and weaponized in you know,
a battle zone in Ukraine? Right. Uh So, to my mind,
I'm trying to understand what is the imminent threat with
these drones that are probably trafficking things that you close
the airspace down.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
That's yeah, that's one of my questions as well. Is
this simply a convenient official cover for whatever actually triggered
this because the mayor of El Paso was not informed.
Renard Johnson found out with the with the rest of
the public class and the mayor has some strong words
(20:55):
to say about this, saying, look, el Paso is not
just a dot on a map or a border city
with hospitals, military operations, emergency services, critical infrastructure. It depends
on coordinated and reliable airspace operations. Decisions made without notice
or coordination put lives at risk and create unnecessary danger
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and confusion. And the mayor goes on to talk about
how they worked with Congress people, They worked with the
brass at Fort Bliss, they worked with everyone to get
better communication, coordination and respect for the people of El Paso.
There wasn't transparency. It doesn't appear there was accountability. It
(21:39):
appears that there was some stuff they don't want you
to know at play here. And we'd love to hear
your thoughts because I also wonder if this is a
dry run. To take it a step further, if the
official reason for the shutdown and the sudden pull back
of that shutdown, if the official reason is malarkey, then
what is the real reason. Could it be kind of
(22:02):
a rehearsal, because if it was a shutdown that worked,
was just long enough to show that this could work
before you pull it back, then you have now established
a precedent So what happens when you do the same
thing again, but this time you don't pull it back
and maybe the people, maybe certain targeted people that we're
(22:25):
going to go on a flight, maybe instead of going
on the flight, Uncle Sam gives them a place to stay.
Maybe it's a warehouse. Maybe sometimes it's a detention facility.
Maybe it's both. You know.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I think one of the reasons that folks on this
Reddit thread were referencing the Epstein files is because I
think within this area you will find this place called
Zoro Ranch, which is was Epstein's, you know, massive property
there in New Mexico. So maybe I'm maybe I'm wrong,
Maybe that wouldn't comprise this airspace, but I did. I
(23:00):
do seem to see it popping up in reference to
this in a few spots, and it's something that we
haven't talked a whole lot about because it is apparently
another site that many heinous crimes were committed, and you know,
it is sort of in that neck of the Global Woods.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
What do you think though about that idea of this
being a dry run.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
I mean, I think that's fascinating and I think it's
certainly the kind of thing we see with a lot
of the Remember where we were talking about Walmart's being
repurposed for certain types of training drills like I forget
the exactly thank you. It brings to some degree like that,
But it also it's such a it seems like such
a panic move because it's everyone knows, you know, so
(23:44):
it seems like a real last ditch effort to like
to do something that normally the people that wouldn't want
us to know about their activities, they wouldn't pull a
lever like this that would set off so many alarms
and and be so you know, known to so many
people quickly.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
Possibly it's still it's becoming increasingly plausible or less implausible.
I feel like we're going to see more and more
sort of pilot programs haha, drone jokes, or we're going
to see more and more dry run dress rehearsal attempts
for different let's call them contingencies as the midterm elections.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Loom I keep thinking about the COVID nineteen grounding of
flights and the concept of like why do you close
an airport? And I think your idea makes a ton
of sense. Been the concept of preventing people from getting
out right or coming in. But in this case, like
you said, feeling a little more like getting out is
(24:47):
it can be a weird thing. I wonder with a
contagion or something like that. Actually, how effective closing down
airports is because it feels like that that that move
of stopping a spread, right, stopping the international travel specifically
is one of the best ways to do that.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And just to clarify their, folks, this shutdown included domestic
flights too, so it's not yeah, that's that's the other thing.
It's a total shutdown, which is worrisome. You know, we'd
love to hear your thoughts, folks, especially if you were affected,
or if you live in the El Paso area or
you were just flying through. We hope you got home.
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You know, that's that's got to be crazy.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Did we mention like the how far this extended? We're
talking about LPASA, I mean, this is literally just the
airspace over the metro area or how far in all
directions surrounding it.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, it's ten mile radius, ten mile radius to I
want to say, eighteen thousand feet elevation. Did not did
not touch Mexican airspace because you know that's a different country.
But yeah, ten miles and I believe eighteen thousand into
the sky.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Uh. I just had a scenario. Guys, what if it
is about Zoro Ranch right there? The congressman just got
to check out the unredacted Epstein files. There's something in
there about Zoro Ranch. So they shut down the airspace
because they know there's a group of investigators that are
not part of the like official, you know group that's
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trying to cover things up. They have a flight schedule
that night to go out to Zoro Ranch via that airport.
So then someone pulls a trigger at the FAA and
says no, no, no more flights.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Clean it up, Clean it up.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So now they have to drive or you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Yeah, looking at it, though, it seems like that's too
far outside of the airspace we're talking about here, Okay,
four and a half hour drive or a four hour
drive from out Passo too well to New Mexico. I
don't know. Let's see, no, no, no, no, it's right
on the border. I don't know. So that's that's that's
across New Mexico. You could drive from Outpasso almost like
to the center of New Mexico and that would take
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about four hours. So you know what, it may if
it's close to the border of Texas, then it may
well have been within that airspace radius that we're talking.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well, I am making a note again for that future episode.
There's uh, there's so much stuff I'm not going to
be able to get to. You know, guys, the AI
social network, everybody check out mult book making Religions on
the Fly, the Yeah, the pent Yes Religions on the fly. Uh,
they're one of their popular subreddits is like bless their
(27:32):
Hearts or something where the AI agents say mostly nice
things about their human compatriots. The Pentagon is rolling out
chat gpt. Uh. We've got so much more to get to.
We read a little long on this part, so thank
you for tuning in. And again, if this affected you,
let us know conspiracy at iHeartRadio dot com. Most importantly,
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as we just said earlier, if you were affected, hope
you got home safe. We'll be right back after a
word from our spots.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
And we've returned with some more aviation related strange news.
I'm gonna lead off with this story about an airline
called wiz Air, which is I didn't know existed. That's
a funny name for an airline. I wonder how that
pitch meeting went. No one let them know that, you know,
don't whiz on the electric fence and all that. Sorry,
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ran and stimpy reference. But on February eighth, just a
couple of days ago, as we record here, on the eleventh,
a Whiz Air flight from London Luton Airport to Tel
Aviv was intercepted escorted to an early landing by Israeli
Air Force fighter jets after they were received word or
were alerted that there was a Wi fi hotspot that
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appeared on the commercial flight, the Whiz Air flight that
was named terrorist in Hebrew and Arabic. And they don't
mess around with this kind of stuff, I would seem,
because this triggered the potential threat of some sort of
attack on this airbus, A three to one Neo. It
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was flight W nine fifty three to one. It was
held off Israeli airspace before being allowed to land at
Ben Gurion Airport, and security forces screened all of the
passengers as well as the luggage and did not find
a threat. And it would seem that it was a
child that did this. I thought it would be a
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funny little.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Bit uh whoops, Yes, sorry, but the tensions are a
little bit high for those kind of jokes, you know.
It's also it reminds me with how seriously aviation is taken.
We weren't able to get to this when we're talking
about the FAA shut down and take back seats, but
they included that any incursion would be any plane flying
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would be met with deadly military force, so fighter jets
as well. This this though, I wonder if it's happened
before with you know, a kid doing a Wi Fi
name on a flight. That just seems like such an
overreaction too, doesn't it. If someone was a real threat,
then why would they advertise it with a joke Wi
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Fi name?
Speaker 4 (30:23):
Well, to your point, Ben, it just goes to show
how seriously they're taking this stuff in these very you know,
tenuous times. Even a little silly goof like that could
trigger this type of intervention that involved canines bomb sniffing,
you know, canines basically, you know the kind of reaction
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that would result from something like a more you know,
direct bomb threat. Let's see. Yeah, the telephone in question
that was used to create this Wi Fi hotspot, which,
by the way, you're not supposed to have an active
Wi Fi hotspot on a plane you're supposed to be
an airplane mode. Guys.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Also quick question on behalf of our audience here, for
anybody who's unfamiliar with Whiz Air. I'm wondering if it's
something about the fact that it's known as one of
those ultra low cost headlines like Delta is not Katari
Air or whatever or Air Emirates. This is kind of
more like the magab Air or Spirit airlines. So I'm
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wondering if that's something where as ridiculous as this scenario
may sound, I wonder if it's something where the Israeli
military said we're going to keep a special eye on
the low cost airline because anybody can hop on that
bad boy for like fifteen bucks.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I suppose that's a good point, Ben. And like I said,
it was a telephone that was being used as a
Wi Fi hotspot. It turned out that it belonged to
a couple and their young son had set up this
phone as a Wi Fi hotspot in advance of the flight.
They did confirm that there was no emmine danger, They
didn't detect any explosives or hazardous materials, and the alert
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was lifted. But yeah, I'd be pretty irritated if that
weren't me and I had to go through the ringer,
you know, because some kid thought it'd be a funny
little joke to name his WiFi hotspot terrorist. This was
the official statement from the Israeli Forces due to suspicion
of suspicious suspicion of suspicious behavior on the plane. Security
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it's like a concept of a plan. Security forces acted
according to standard procedures for such cases. The incident concluded,
the plane landed and it was found that there was
no actual incident.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
So and it looks like it looks like it was
reported by another passenger, or like some other passenger pulled
up their phone and saw the Wi Fi hotspot that's
a terrorist, and then they maybe told a flight attendant.
Speaker 4 (32:56):
And then they passed it on. I guess there's you know, yeah,
I was wondering about that. Then I maybe didn't catch
that detail because it was curious as to how this
ended up on the military forces radar.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
So quickly, if you see something, say something, right, if.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
You see something, say something, and I think we all
stand by that, but yeah, don't also, don't you know,
f around and find out that's also another takeaway from
the story here.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Yeah, and it establishes a larger conversation to talk about
because we know, in the wake of the events of
nine to eleven, there were a lot of people calling
US airlines or alerting US airline staff because they saw
someone that they thought looked to sketchy on the plane,
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and then the staff would report that person. And there
multiple cases where that person just because of the way
they looked got detained or maybe the language they were speaking.
So this kind of stuff can be such a slippery slope.
I don't know. It's so interesting to wonder, isn't it
fellas about the line between being safe and not taking
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chances versus unfairly persecuting people.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
You know, Oh, for sure, I think we exist right
on the cusp of that line these days or ever
since nine to eleven, for sure, And now with these
tensions being what they are, it's a real hot button
kind of situation, a real powder keg. Now you got
any other thoughts on that one before you pop to
another story?
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Yeah, just something a lesson I've been learning the hard
way with my ten year old or the two ten
year olds in this house. You can impart as much
wisdom as you want onto a child that is growing, right,
you can tell them lessons you can try and illustrate
with your words, especially how to do things and how
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not to do things. But for most of us, for
many of us, not until you go through a thing
and experience it for yourself, truly learn the.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Lesson, until you touch the stove.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like this child has learned a
lesson I have valuable.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
I would hope think that that's a really good point, Matt.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
What is it what I hear, I forget when I see,
I remember when I do, I understand.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
Sure, that's it. Experience. Experience is everything. Though, you know,
you'd hope with something like this that just knowing that
it's a bad idea would be enough. But hey, maybe
some other ten year olds can read this article, though
I doubt they will not pull a prank like this one.
I've got one more story that I wanted to mention.
It's something that I think is just fascinating from a
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kind of a future crime investigation kind of perspective. We
talk a lot about uh DNA and how you know,
sequencing of the human genome and a lot of these
databases of DNA information are starting to really show up
in investigations and crime investigations. This one, I think fits
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into that wheelhouse A little bit DNA found on gun
is matched to both identical twins, So who is the
killer is the question. This comes from Sky News. Prosecutors
stumped as to who pulled the trigger, as DNA found
on gun is shared by both identical twins on trial
for murder. It's not so much a DNA database thing,
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which is more like a like how does this stuff
figure into investigations? In unusual circumstances in France, prosecutors have
been unable to tell which of a pair of identical
identical twins on trial for murder actually pulled the trigger.
It would seem that the thirty three year old brothers,
Samuel and Jeremy. Often we're doing little tricks where they
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would try to confuse one for the other and change
clothes and pull all kinds of switcheroos, you know, twin
high jinks. They were involved in the worst kind of
high jink, which would be a double gang murder back
in September of twenty twenty. So this has been going
on for a long time as well as several attempted
murders the following month. They're accused of killing a seventeen
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year old named in the reports as t Dion B
and a twenty five year old identified as Sophion M.
They used an assault rifle, but the DNA found on
the weapon that was used in one of these shootouts
could only be from one twin. This is reported from
the French newspaper La Parigion, who said that forensic experts
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couldn't say which of the brothers had been definitively implicated.
A police officer told the court there's a quote from
one of the investigators telling the trial that only their
mother can tell them apart. They are among five defendants
on trial at a court in Baubigner, a suburb to
the northeast of Paris, and police believe that they've taken
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advantage of this stuff in order to cover their tracks.
They would, you know, switch phones, change ideas and various
you know, crucial documents. Senior police officials said, and yeah, yeah,
this is fascinating. I don't quite understand. Okay, so here's
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the kicker, I guess when with genetic data unable to
distinguish between them, investigators relied on phone records, surveillance footage, wiretaps,
and efforts to corroborate their whereabouts and movements. According to Laparisium,
but the crucial question of who pulled the trigger does
remain open. So does that just steimy an investigation like this, like,
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obviously is this going to cause them to not be
able to you know, make a conviction. I'm curious.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, both confirmed to be in the same place at
the same time. That's correct, Okay, So yeah, okay, So
as as the journalists are saying there that it does
get you into a pickle, we're not experts on the
French legal system, but there's a fifty to fifty chance
of sending the wrong person to jail. So maybe prosecution
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does something where they say, well, you were both there
and based on whatever evidence we have, one gets murder,
one gets accompliced to murder. But that's still not you know,
that's still not a solving the problem here. It's quite
a pickle. And no wonder if similar cases have occurred
in the past.
Speaker 4 (39:19):
Yeah, I wonder the same. And I'm now looking at
a BBC article that the Sky News piece pulled from
extensively too, So not a whole lot of additional info
here as to what the ultimate quandary is. I think
to your point, Ben, they are both on trial, but
obviously the penalty for the person that pulled the trigger
would be more severe than for the other. And I'm
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just wondering, like, does this kind of put a ranch
in the whole proceedings, you know, like it's gonna I think,
is this the kind of thing that could lead to
a mistrial? I guess is what I'm getting at.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
I don't know. I'm wondering the same thing.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
We need Hugh Jackman and Michael Kane so they can
go in and figure out which one of the twins
it was.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yes, yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
No no spoilers to the prestige.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Right Oh yeah, it's gonna say they're prestigious people for
this in particular.
Speaker 4 (40:10):
Now, excellent film for sure. I'll leave it with that, y'all.
It's just an interesting pickle to your point, Ben, and
not seeing much else giving more context to like what
could ultimately result from this, And BBC is usually a
little more on the money with that kind of thing.
So sorry if I did a little bit of a
tease without the payoff, but it is something that I
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think we're gonna have to follow where it lands.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Legally, there might not be much they can they can
say much else they can say due to the fact
that it's a legal proceeding. Right, no one's been convicted.
This reminds me man. I don't know about you, guys,
but I always wanted an identical twin. I've interacted with several,
and it's just a fascinating world. You know.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
I am doing a podcast series featuring a pair of
identical twins and they lived together to this day. I
swear to God, they can read each other's minds. It's
a very very fascinating thing. Twin stuff. Well, that's it
for me, y'all. Let's take a quick break, hear a
word from our sponsor, and then we'll come back with
our last strange news segment for today.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
And we've returned. We're about to talk about a potentially
compromised intelligence apparatus here in the United States, as well
as some rogue virology. But to start things off, guys,
we remember school dances, proms, spring flings and the like.
Speaker 4 (41:42):
Yeah, heck yeah, I just bought my kids a prom
ticket yesterday. It's got a lot more expensive than when
we were kids, three hundred and fifty bucks.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Well, I'm sure we like everyone here listening today, remember
something like that. I wonder if you guys have a
specific memory of the food you ate prior to a
school dance. Just a specific memory you've got.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
You mean, like going out for a dinner.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
Yeah, super special dinner because it's right before one of these.
It's almost like a date in a way.
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Macaroni grill, mad macarony Grill, I have that.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
I have that same memory. Actually, Ben, you got anything.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I have been to a macarony grill I have. I
did not go to school dances.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Well, I am sorry you missed out on that, Ben.
Speaker 4 (42:31):
That makes I was going to say you didn't miss much,
but your results may vary depending on the dance.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
And I hope everybody had a blast.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Well, I remember a place, you guys, A magical place
that I went to, see Dylan Tennessee Peal says, a
fine seafood dinner. I wonder if that's at the Macaroni
Grill or at a different place.
Speaker 3 (42:51):
The Reddestbster perhaps ends. That's one of my favorite conspiracies.
Don't buy into the official narrative about that at anyway memories.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
Yeah, yes, Well the magical place that I remember is
where I ordered my first virgin pina colada. Before that,
I didn't know. I didn't know that coconut and pineapple
were the ultimate combination of fruit juices. I learned at
this place that meat could not only just be grilled,
it could also be jerked.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
And it's got to be a better way. That's the
best way of saying. It jerked at me, no, take
that back.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Most importantly, I learned about a thing called scotsh bonnet
peppers that I didn't know existed before I went to
this place.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Heath seeking behavior.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
Are you gonna tell us the place?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
I'm very, very sad to report everybody that one of
the finest restaurants on the planet, Bahama Breeze, is closing
its after thirty years of making dreams come true.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
I really it was.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
The first time I ever had jerked chicken. It is incredible.
But they're going out of business, you guys. And it's
the same company, Darden Restaurants that owns Longhorn and oh
what's the other big one long horn in olive Garden. Uh,
So they're going to change all of these or many
of these locations into either a longhorn or an olive garden.
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It just makes me sad. Guys, I went there recently
again and it was fantastic, lovely experience. I will miss you.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Specific Breeze, not to be confused with Tommy Bahamas, Johnny Bamas.
Speaker 3 (44:47):
It's kind of Darden, yeah, but they also owned Red Lobster,
at least for a time. I even know the power
behind the culinary throne of approachable fine dining.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Prom dinners across this land.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
Darden.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Oh, there's something there. We got to talk about that
in more Death. But for right now, let's move away
from that. That was kind of a silly thing. But
we've got important stuff to discuss here, specifically a little
something that the NSA discovered that then a whistleblower talked
about and now it appears it's being covered up. Let's
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jump to The Guardian to an article written by Kate
Brown on February seventh. It's titled NSSA detected foreign intelligence
phone call about a person close to the Trump administration,
or it says to Trump, but they alter it within
the article to say close to the administration. This is
very strange. I have to read verbatim from some of
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this because it is so specific, I'll just start a
little bit here. Last spring, so that is twenty twenty five,
the National Security Agency flagged in unusual phone call between
two members of foreign intelligence who discussed a person who
was close to the Trump administration. This is all according
to a whistleblower's account. Uh, this was a highly sensitive communicate.
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It was brought to the attention of the Director of
National Intelligence. The Director of National Intelligence. Guys, we have
discussed that role before on this show, but if we're
just going to give kind of a quick what is
that role? What would we say?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
What chief spymaster is how it's up referred to. We're
talking about Tulsa Gabbard.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
This is Tulsi Gabbard.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
Yes, currently it's Gabbard, but it's the Yeah, I think
Noel is on the money there. It's it's you. It's
your big badger in the bag for all things intel
and security in theory. So this is the person who
is going to be kind of like how we discussed
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similar to our discussion about the Legacy program, this is
one of the top candidates to be able to see
the forest for the compartmentalized trees of secrecy.
Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yes, yes, okay, so just as a recap here, a
phone call happens that's being monitored by the NSA. Yeah,
it's considered highly sensitive. And somebody brings that all the
way to the top to the Director of National Intelligence
and says, hey, here's something we need to be concerned
with because for one reason or another that person made
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that decision. This is concerning enough to take it all
the way here. Then, Tulsa Gabbard, the current Director of
National Intelligence, rather than distributing it to basically to look
into it further, she took a paper copy of the
intelligence directly to the president's chief of staff, a person
named Susie Wiles. That I have not heard that name
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thrown around too much, at least in the news in
circles discussing, you know, how important a chief of staff
has been in the past, right, Like how important of
a role that is. And after that, Gabbard told the
NSA not to publish the intelligence report. Instead, she instructed
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NSA officials to transmit the highly classified details directly to
her office, to Tulsi Gabbard's office, Does that or does
that not sound like direct interference to prevent some kind
of information or investigation from a current.
Speaker 3 (48:25):
Well, we know what I'm going to say. Obviously, that
seems like a heck of a lot of interference. That's
not what is supposed to happen when things are going
above board. But if we look at the way chade
of command works off books, unfortunately, you lose your job
if you reject that order, even if it's in a
legal order. Right, you're not supposed to get fired, but
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you don't really have a recourse. You're supposed to follow
what the what your betters in the organization tell you
to do.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Oh just a quick tiniest eide, did you'll see that
they are not going to prosecute those individuals that made
the video saying that you could refuse an illegal order
as a military personnel. Yeah, the courts are not going
to prosecute those I mean a democrats. It was just
totally like a like a what you call it a
(49:19):
kangaroo court. Okay, let me rephrase. If they had absolutely
been able to railroad them, it would have been a
kangaroo court. But it was just a smoke and mirrors
kind of saber rattle, you know, eternally speaking Also, why
was Telsea Gabbard at the rating of our election offices
here in Fulton County.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, I had asked about that earlier when we were recording.
Is just movie so quickly that Again, honestly, I love
that we're bringing that back up because that's another piece
of precedent that is affecting at least my perspective. Now
if it is true that Gabbert, gosh, they might come
knocking on our doors.
Speaker 4 (49:57):
Oh wait, haven't you think we haven't been thinking of
about that, y'all.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
It's that's the thing, okay, Because I don't ever want
to sound like I'm profiling someone or being kish, but
it just stinks. It is so suspicious, and I will
gladly go on any platform and make a huge maya kulpap.
Gabbard and team come out and say, here's the reason
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we did this. It's totally legitimate. We're actually the good guys.
And if they could prove that, I will say, I
am so sorry. But they can't prove it because they're
not the good guys.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
Mm. It feels like, oh, it is scary to say
some of this stuff, but we are just reading directly
from stuff that was already reported on by The Guardian.
Speaker 3 (50:46):
Okay, in the.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
Public sphere, and it doesn't matter, guys. At the end
of the day. I mean, we're approaching a world where
just retweeting something could get you black bagged.
Speaker 2 (50:58):
A video, like a video that has some super racist
stuff at the end of it, like that was fine.
Speaker 4 (51:03):
It was just at the end, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
It was just like that guy in Russia who just
got hit with the massive fine for liking YouTube videos.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
A retiree.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Yeah, yeah, wow, older guy.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
And that's the playbook we're beginning to work from.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Check out our upisode in the plastic episode when you
become your phone.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
Yes, please do so. In the instance of this specific
phone call yet occurred, there's a person who is an
attorney named Andrew Becase. This person you may have heard
of before. He used to work closely with the CIA.
He was part of the Office of the Inspector General
for the CIA. He is representing the whistleblower here and
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a lot of what we're getting is from him, and
we're also getting stuff from the Press Secretary for the
Director of National Intelligence or the Office excuse me of
the Director of National Intelligence. Here is a statement from them,
this story is false. Every single action taken by d
and I Gabbard was fully within her legal and statutory authority,
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and these politically motivated attempts to manipulate highly classified information
undermine the essential national security work being done by great
Americans in the intelligence community every day. This is yet.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
Take us to church.
Speaker 2 (52:29):
This is yet another attempts to distract from the fact
that both a Biden era and Trump era appointed Intelligence
Community Inspector General already found the allegations against d and
I Gabbard baseless.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
Okay, tight cool story. So to translate the pr parcour there, one,
we did nothing wrong, we did everything right. Two, you
may be you may be in danger for questioning us
on what we did. And then three it's the other
people's fault. But they also said we were right ce
(53:05):
point one.
Speaker 4 (53:07):
And yet investigation after investigation that showed there to be
no fraud in the twenty twenty election as suspects, even
though many of those came through Trump friendlies.
Speaker 2 (53:20):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
I'm just saying that the level of double speak and
what they're asking us to believe and not believe and
look away from. And then no pay attention to this
one because it benefits us and not this one, because
it's just it makes your head spin and your stomach sink.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Shout out to Linda here and the Exorcist for sure,
it makes too Yeah, there's another thing here that I
just we have to mention it. Gents, we're hearing in
the public a very small percentage of the actual controversies
and the concerns that are occurring within the intel community.
(53:56):
So every time you hear a story like this about
a phone call and somewhat act and sketchy, remember that
is one of like ten other things twenty five.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
That's the one that got away. That's the one that
they couldn't suppress.
Speaker 3 (54:09):
That's the one where somebody was a little wi Yeah,
where someone was brave enough to blow a whistle. Right.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
That's scary, it really is. We talked pretty recently about
this whistleblower hotline that exists out there for the intelligence community.
It is supposed to be a highly protected thing. We
know that there's dangerous information in the intelligence world all
the time, right, and that information, depending on who hears it,
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depending on who's compromise, depending on all this other stuff.
Is this labyrinthine system of information. It can put to.
Speaker 4 (54:42):
People in danger. It can put you know, operatives in danger.
We don't want that. We're not saying that we want that, right, like, right, yes,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
So there is an existing hotline where you can call
in as an intelligence official to say, Hey, somebody i'm
working with, somebody I'm close to who's supposed to be
on our team is actually doing something else. There's something
really important that needs to be known and it needs
to probably be investigated. There's a weird thing happening there,
as noted here in the Guardian. It's the last sentence
(55:14):
that I wrote down from this article. The independence of
the Watchdog office may be compromised, lawmakers have said ever
since the standing Director of National Intelligence, Gabbard assigned one
of her top advisors, person named Dennis Kirk, to work
at the Watchdog. On the ninth of May, two weeks
(55:36):
after the whistleblower first made contact with the Inspector General's hotline.
Speaker 4 (55:41):
Bro it rings a big red phone in her office, Like, no, que.
Speaker 2 (55:45):
Isn't it crazy? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (55:47):
I mean it's logical.
Speaker 4 (55:51):
The very least.
Speaker 3 (55:51):
It's suppressing logical if you are trying to do illegal stuff.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
Yeah, I've seen Look, man, I've seen the shows. We've
all seen the shows where somebody gets somebody infiltrates a
high office in one of the intelligence arms, you know,
and they're the ones running interference for the stuff or yeah,
I see, mister robot, yeah twenty four, or.
Speaker 3 (56:17):
Think about the real life stuff that we can we
can absolutely prove with the benefit of retrospect, where in
intel agencies multiple ones right abroad or due to their
own internal descent, they set up a golden boy, right,
someone who gets promoted or gets a very specific position
(56:39):
with no precedent, right, not necessarily going through the ordinary channels.
Always be aware of the handpicked kids, you know what
I mean, even if they just lucked out without sounding
even more like a stereotype, don't trust them. Don't trust
the guy that hasn't been there for ten years in
(57:01):
the trenches aiming for this position. And even if they have,
I'd say, still don't trust him.
Speaker 2 (57:08):
What crime have I committed?
Speaker 4 (57:10):
Succulent Chinese meal that smart data, jez All, heroes don't
wear capes.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
I hear you, man, it's a I don't know, it's
just a weird it's a weird time. Everything's weird. None
of it makes sense. Anymore there. I was thinking back
to Josh Clark's show that we've mentioned several times in
the past couple of months here about existential threats that
humanity fates faces, called the end of the World, No,
what is it called the world fantastic stuff. One of
(57:48):
the things that he brings up in that show is
rogue virology rogue uh, rogue biology of all sorts, but
specifically folks who get a hold of viruses and pathogens
and then do a little experimentation on their own, let's say,
in their house in Las Vegas. We're just gonna put
this one out here so you can look it up
(58:09):
and make sure you are like paying attention to this.
It's the kind of thing that may just be a
drop in the bucket when it comes to this kind
of rogue virology, or it could be something much larger
because of the scale that's hinted at by several pieces
we've seen in ABC News, in AP News, in a
bunch of other places, CBS News talking about it. There
(58:30):
is a weird what appears to be a virology lab
of some sort that was discovered pretty recently in Las
Vegas in a home. But in a house you guys,
not in like you know, a warehouse somewhere or in
a specialized office or anything like that, just inside a
house where there are all kinds of potentially hazardous materials,
(58:53):
biological materials. It's super weird stuff. There's a person named
or Solomon. They got picked up. He's fifty five. According
to ABC, he's an Israeli citizen in the US on
a non immigrant visa. He's not allowed to possess firearms.
And the reason why he's in trouble right now in
awaiting trial, is because there were a bunch of guns
(59:15):
seized from a home that you know, from his home
where this place was discovered. He also faces some kind
of criminal charge in Clark County for improper disposal of
hazardous waste. But all of that stuff, you know, it's
reasons to charge him with things, right, But ultimately there's
(59:36):
weird stuff going on in there, with stuff like COVID nineteen,
like actual COVID nineteen, other viruses that you know, if
you made a bunch of you could maybe weaponize or release,
or maybe you're trying to find a cure right to
create some kind of bioproduct that could be sold to
somebody else who knows, who knows? Either way, it's pretty
(59:59):
scary that it could be happening, Like in your neighborhood.
There are literally neighbors coming forward to going, uh, what
was happening?
Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Yeah, absolutely because due to consider this, due to economy
of scale, now the equipment that would have once been
restricted to professional labs, the price has plummeted now just
similar to the similar to the proliferation of prosumer audio
(01:00:26):
video technology. We're seeing that with things like Crisper. Right,
we're seeing the ability to take as little as prices
right in US here, as little as ten thousand US dollars, right,
and a garage, then you can get some powerful goodies
to play with, right, with very little in the way
(01:00:48):
of regulation or legislation at this point. So what if
someone has one hundred thousand dollars, then you get into
some real potential villainy, but it probably just takes about
ten grand.
Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Yeah. Well, authorities say that this person Solomon, works for
a Chinese citizen named Gia Bei Ju, who is currently
in jail because in twenty twenty three there was an
investigation into an illegal lab in Redley, California that this
(01:01:23):
dude Zu who goes by David He David h. E
that he was linked to, and that place had pathogens
including samples of COVID nineteen and other diseases, as well
as hundreds of transgenic mice and boxes of adulted and
misbranded medical tests that he was like selling. So it's
part of a business, but it's also got all these
(01:01:46):
pathogens in this place, which just makes you wonder, like, again,
what the heck are they building in there? What are
they doing in there? Why what are they testing on
those mice? Really it's really freaky stuff, and it just
makes you wonder about the larger apparatus that they are
potentially attached to and what is that and what are
the aims or goals of.
Speaker 4 (01:02:04):
That thing.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
Or is it just a couple of guys who are
messing around, you know, having fun with with bio stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
It is.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
It is really interesting to know that or Solomon manages
more than thirty rental properties in the area in Las
Vegas out there, so I guess there's lots of search
warrants to go through potentially, who knows. That's all I've got, guys.
Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
It's more than enough. Matt's excellent stuff, good lord.
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this week's Strange News segment, but I guess that means
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