September 23, 2026 • 43 mins
While Denmark and the United States have allegedly reached an "agreement" regarding the fate of Greenland, the world is still deeply concerned that Uncle Sam may take economic or military action to gain full control over the world's largest island. In the second chapter of this special two-part series, Ben, Matt, and Dylan investigate why the US seems so set on annexation... and why the official statements may be a cover for secret, less noble motivations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
Hello and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt.
Our colleague Noel is on an adventure, but we'll be
returning shortly.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
They call me Ben, and you can too. We're joined
as always with our super producer, Dylan, the Tennessee pal Fagan,
as well as returning special guest, Agent Scully with a K.
Most importantly, you are you. You are here. That makes this...
the stuff they don't want you to know. Now, fair
warning before we dive in, this is chapter two of
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a two-part series on the U.S. obsession with Greenland. So
whether you're on Netflix, whether you're on your podcast platform
of choice, or a raven is whispering this into your ear,
please ask the raven and Netflix and your podcast to
pause so you can hear chapter one first.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, it's kind of important. We laid out a whole
bunch of stuff in that one. Um, well, we just
continued to get a little weird with it as we
went down this rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And we're going to sound crazy. Okay. Folks, if you
don't listen to the first episode, this is as much
for us as it is for you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So I guess here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Tennessee still has his house and we want to, quell
the waters here a little bit. After all these Brinksman
bellicose statements throughout this year and the previous administration, President
Trump met with NATO officials and took, for now, military
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action off the table. We don't know the full extent
of their backroom discussions, but he also came back stating
that economic warfare, aka tariffs, would be out of bounds. Still,
I mean, that's like good news because the statement's changed course,
but I think we can all understand why Denmark, the EU,
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and NATO aren't going to trust this guy 100% immediately, right?
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We saw it play out in Venezuela, right? Yeah. Oh, hey,
you know what? We're going to reconsider some things. We're
not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Strike.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Gotcha. Ha ha. Woo hoo.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Psych.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Oh, hey, yeah, no, we're not going to attack Cuba
or anything. We're just going to, you know, let a
terrible situation proliferate there where there's no, you know, power
and constant storms and people starving.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We're just not going to help them and we're going
to make sure, we're not going to hurt them. We're
not going to help them and we're going to make
sure no one else can help them either.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Everything, man, come on, we're not going to do stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, you guys are the ones that are being weird.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You know what I mean? We want a ceasefire in Iran,
don't we, Ben?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, we want a ceasefire.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
We don't want all this fighting.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Eh, okay, okay, all right. Don't get me up on
that hobby horse, Matt. I mean, the silliest thing here
that escapes a lot of people as well is something
we've alluded to. If the Military explanation is true. If
that's the entirety of the story, then the USA already
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has everything you would want from the world's largest island.
You don't have to annex Greenland. You don't have to
make it a U.S. territory to do all the stuff
that you wanted to do from a defense perspective. We
talked about the Betelgeuse Space Base, spelled P-I-T-U-F-F-I-K. Like you
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were saying, Matt, that has 150 people, dedicated U.S. military staff.
They're pretty much at the top of the globe. So
they can track those ICBMs, intercontinental ballistic missiles, that the
world is so worried about. You know, there are bases,
a multitude of bases that were already built in ages
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past that could be reconverted to military bases for the
United States or NATO. As a matter of fact, several
of them are still active. They're just commercial airports for
Air Greenland.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, and as we kind of alluded to earlier on
in this episode, Ben, these stations were listening stations. They
had the same sensors that the Vela satellites had or
very similar ones. Is there that double flash of a
nuclear test? Can we see intercontinental ballistic missiles that are
making their way over the top of the world in
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this way? And can we have an early warning? System
for those, or can we theoretically shoot down ICBMs that
have nukes on them? Which, you know, is a weird
little game that you could play. Can we shoot down
the missiles?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, can we catch the arrow in the air? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you know what we should do? What should we do?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
We should launch, like, hundreds if not thousands of satellites
with the capability of shooting down missiles from space. But
they'll have a targeting system with lasers that's based on land.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
We'll call it Star Wars.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, well, I like the cut of your jib, General.
As a member of several corporate boards, I just need
to ask you a personal favor. Could we shoehorn AI
into this system somehow?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Bro, Ben... I know you're being silly.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But it's true.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's true. And we, in the background, we, just like you,
have been following all the news with regards to AI
and all these whistleblowers coming forward and, you know, major
players in the AI game, people who built the machines
that are running these machines currently, like the Bill Gates
of the world, who are now.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Saying, break the machine. Stop the machine.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Uh-oh. And these people who, you know, are doing the
right thing and coming forward, hey, they're just a low-level
researcher working, you know, in these systems and raising their
hand courageously and saying, hey, oh, crap, this is not good.
And now finally, like, the Bernie Sanders of the world going, oh, God,
we got to stop these things. It's happening right now,
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and the anxiety that it is building within me, Ben, is, like,
off the charts now. Because it's integrated, as you're saying,
into all of the other problems that we're already facing
geopolitically and with these systems that are, we're already designed
to destroy the world if things go a little bit wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, shoehorned, right? Like the furnace or the boiler at
the bottom of the building is already malfunctioning and we're
so excited to add some cans of paint and some
oil-soaked rags right outside the furnace door. You know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's why that trailer for Artificial needed us to look
at it and think about it. Because it is the
Sam Altman's of the world that for some reason just
don't give a shit. That's what they're doing. And they're
so down to live in that bunker for however long
it takes before emerging and becoming gods.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And those guys are still limited by their biology. They're human, which,
if you're tuning in, guys, means you cannot eat regret,
no matter how much you generate. Well, folks, we're going
to pause for a little game here. We'll call it
Schrodinger's Sponsor, Matt, because there may or may not be
an ad.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We don't know yet.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Wait, was there an ad?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Did it happen? We don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Help us out here, folks. Back to the show. We
also know that historically, Denmark and the United States throughout
World War II, throughout the Cold War, they cooperated very
well with each other. So the argument from the U.S.,
if we're exercising empathy, it is understandable even if you
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do not agree. What they are saying is that the
old threats are rising. The old monsters are returning. So
we have to return to our previous defense posture. We
have to go back to the days of the wars.
But again, like since 1951, since past the close of
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World War II, Denmark, Greenland and the U.S. had this
defense agreement. It's 75 some years old at this point.
They already agreed to let the United States do whatever
they want. Uncle Sam right now can show up in
Greenland and station troops on the island. expand its military presence,
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you know, rejuvenate some of those bases. It can host
any number of interceptors and fun toys to catch the
arrows in the wind. It can do all of this,
absolutely all of it, without owning Greenland.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yes. And the GIUK gap that they're so nervous about
is on lock. Hey, man, we got the UK over there,
we got Iceland, and then we got our bases. We're
good to go. We're safe. We can do all that
right now. Isn't it weird that we're getting into a
giant trade war with Canada that has the majority of
the military bases in this region of the world? Why
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in the heck are we doing that? It doesn't make
any dang sense if we're actually worried about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Why are you, why?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Why are you, why are you hopping in the car
with your best friends and at the beginning of a
road trip pointing at Canada and say, hey, I think
you're an asshole?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
We've got 16 hours left.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
We've got 16 hours left. I just want to set
the f * * * ing tone. I mean, it's
a great question, Matt, because if we, we being Uncle Sam,
already have everything needful from a security standpoint... Why all
the hubbub? Why all these tantrums? Why all these bellicose statements?
We argue to you folks, the real answer is not military.
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The real answer is resource extraction. Greenland suffers from the
resource curse, which we've talked about in previous episodes, just
like Sudan, right? Or similar to Sudan. Greenland has 25
of the 34 raw materials considered critical. They have 39
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of the 50 materials considered critical by Uncle Sam. If
you look at all the areas of the world, and
if you want to count Greenland as a country here,
Greenland is number eight on the planet with access to
rare earth elements. They have 36.1 million metric tons of
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all the stuff that makes modern civilization possible from your
vehicles to to your smartphones, which I still think is
a paradoxical name, you know, to the reason you're able
to watch this on Netflix or hear this on your
podcast platform of choice. Also, they have gold.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Also, they have gold.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Also, they got a lot of gold.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
That was a big deal here in the U.S. My
son right now, Ben, is learning about Western expansion in
the U.S. right now and talking a lot about gold.
And man, the way they generalize, they use the terms,
what they'll use is, um, a group of people are
a part of the world and then immigrant. Uh, and
then the kid, seriously, they're learning about European immigrants and
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Asian immigrants and where they went and what they did
and how, you know, they, they worked on the railroads. Right.
And so then he and I had to have this
long talk this morning. He's doing a test this morning. Just,
you know, I was just trying to give him a
little hint of the more reality of it without, you know,
totally exploding a 10-year-old's brain. Oh, man. But just the
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way people think about it and the way we're taught
about it in schools and all these things and what
the reality is of throwing, you know, human misery and
suffering at a giant thing like building a rail and
then finding the gold out in the hills somewhere, you know,
which is like, what is it, Ben? It's the carrot,
the thing that you might get. Oh, you could go
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find all kinds of gold. It's untapped resources out here
in the western U.S., Just go out there, stake a claim,
and you're going to do it. It reminds me of
that here with Greenland because it's relatively untapped, right? When
we're talking about resource extraction, a lot of the places
in the world have mines set up. These places have
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been discovered that have a lot of these minerals, tantalum
and all that. In Greenland, because it's so tough to
get to those, a lot of the places where it is,
you have to invest a lot to get stuff out.
But if you just... decide it's yours now you can
throw whatever you want at.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It right yeah yeah you nailed it because folks the
raw appeal of these rare earth minerals and materials that's
not the only factor again this is a very small
population for a very large swath of land so if
we are a mining industry and We don't have to
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worry as much about complaints from local communities. We're far
enough up north. We're very isolated. Now, yes, we're poisoning
the environment, and nobody will know for a few years, maybe.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
All these pesky humans, Ben, that complain all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Just keep them in the way. Just always complaining.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I know, like, yeah, breathe or whatever. We can manufacture
oxygen for you guys if we need to.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Right, exactly. You know what I mean? Additionally, we know
that Greenland is a very interesting Venn diagram for this
kind of resource extraction. Glacial movement has cut through part
of the Earth, right? And volcanic activity has pulled a
lot of these things up from very deep to the surface, right?
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And there's not a lot of soil interference there. that
stops you from grabbing it. It's easier to get to
the goodies in Greenland, and that's why you'll see speculators,
I would say, optimistically, aspirationally, making statements like, hey, if
we get Greenland to play ball, we're looking at $ 186
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billion worth of all this stuff we need to make
the world run. Also, in addition to that, the lithium-
the cobalt, the gold, the tantalum, the graphite, the nickel.
They've got a lot of oil and natural gas. They've
got a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, wow. And is there a pattern here that we're seeing, Ben,
with the U.S. going into countries and making deals via
giant oil lords about extracting natural gas and oil and stuff?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Gosh, I don't know, Matt. If we ask too much
about that, there might be a revolution on our show.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
We might get discombobulated ourselves.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Guys, we don't have any oil.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
We're like oil-free.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I have an electric lawnmower, okay? No oil at all.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I only bake my French fries, so let's all calm down.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I have an air fryer, okay? It's using air.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
But the thing is, so... Now the question becomes, Greenland,
why haven't they played ball yet? Well, in previous decades,
it was because there was a ton of ice, right?
But now a huge part of it is that Greenland is, again,
since the early 80s, it is its own autonomous entity.
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So those 56,000 people and their governmental representatives, they get
to decide the rules of the road. So if they say, hey, hungry,
hungry hippo of Western commerce or Chinese commerce, you cannot
gobble up all our little pebbles. You can't come here
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and mine and drill. But a really weird thing happened,
by the way. While the current U.S. president was arguing
for just taking over Greenland if it wouldn't be sold
to the U.S., private companies aligned with the current administration
tried to get in front of the curve. The most
notable case was Greenland Energy. You heard about this one, Matt.
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We can't let the name fool people. They're based in Texas.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
They call themselves Greenland Energy, but they have old school
Texas money.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
There's nothing more American than Greenland Energy. We had the
cattle ranchers, and now we got Greenland Energy.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah. And we'll pause here for a word from our sponsors.
And we've returned just last month. So we're recording on Friday,
September 11th, 2026. So just last month, as we record
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those guys, Greenland Energy with Matt's flawless impression there and
their partner, 80 Mile. who was based in the United Kingdom,
not Detroit, they got in hot water because they had
stalled in negotiations with the government of Greenland to drill
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for oil. And they were apparently confident enough in Uncle
Sam that they thought, we'll go ahead and move the
drilling equipment over there. You know, we'll figure it out later.
We're building the plane while we're flying it. They had
hoped to get rolling on this massive drilling project as
early as October of this year, 2026. And they said, look,
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there are 13 billion barrels of oil resources up for grabs.
And Greenland said, what the is going on with you people? What?
They said, this project is stalled hard. And like you
and I were talking about earlier, Matt, Greenland has these
strict environmental regulations. They also require guarantees that the economy
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will benefit the local people, those 56,000. And so now
they pulled that bureaucratic move. The drilling will start at
the earliest in winter of 2027, at the earliest. But
right now, Greenland's government is saying, They hit them with
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a catch-22, folks. They said, the regulatory process has to
be completed. The regulatory process also cannot be completed. And therefore,
we can't approve the stuff you need to start drilling.
So they said, you need permission from us, and we're
not going to allow that permission to occur. So we've
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set up this ouroboros of paperwork. That you shall not cross.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
You shall not pass, oil barren lords. You know, Ben,
let's go and bring it up now. We are recording
this episode on Friday, September 11th, 2026. That's correct.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And when we're thinking about remembering this day and the attacks,
you know, it is a strange thing for those of
us who lived through that day to kind of Think
about it. Think about what happened before, right? In the
places where we invaded, what happened after, the reasons for invading.
It's just such a complicated subject. At the heart of it,
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we've learned enough over the years to at least have
some insight about the oil of it all and the interests,
the strategic national security interests that the U.S. has in
the Middle East. And you can count them in billions
of barrels of oil. And then you begin to realize that, oh, wait,
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it's not so much the national security interests. It is
really the resource control and extraction interests that are at play.
And the people really aiming the U.S. military at places
are the ones that seem to be, at least in
big part, the ones that control the oil, the ones
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that extract it. sell it to all of us and
make the world and the military move. 100%.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah. Well said, Matt. And also I would advance to
anybody who is thinking, oh, these are big and abstract things.
Just wait. Diesel has hit $ 6 per gallon on average
here in the United States as we record this evening.
And this may be a two-part series. I wish we
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had time to get further into this. But it doesn't
matter if you do or do not drive a diesel
vehicle because the transit system of the United States depends
upon diesel to give you all your stuff, to give
you access to it. So you can expect, and we'll
go on record here, it's 12.46 p.m. Friday, September 11, 2026.
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you can expect in the coming months a sharp increase
in the prices of a lot of things that you
think have nothing to do with diesel.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Hey, but there will always be free shipping, though, Ben,
as long as I have a membership.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Right. I'm trying to look into a literal membership. Like,
can I buy an interest in a cargo ship? How
much does that cost?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Bro, I'm not kidding. Spent the better part of last
night looking at properties in the North Georgia mountains. Oh, yeah.
And then that conversation and whole situation moved into, well,
what about something that floats?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
A little more mobile. Dude, I'm looking at Wisconsin hard.
actually so okay all right let's double dragon we'll hang
out uh dylan you could come over there and also
you know per our nato agreement we're gonna do our
best to defend your warehouse uh so.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah because it's about defense.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Can you make my house float i'm sure i've got
some ideas uh throw enough uh.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Throw enough of that styrofoam under there and we can
make anything float i promise.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, just wait long enough. You know, we're not that
far inland. So if you allow us to connect some
dots here, folks, the evidence indicates that the U.S. desire
to own Greenland is about more than national defense. That's
the window dressing that is being sold to you as
a bill of goods. The real goal, I think we
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can all agree, is to extract resources. That is the
only difference between working with Greenland and owning Greenland. Because
if the U.S. owns Greenland, then Denmark's opinion, the kingdom's opinion,
it does not matter. Greenland's current laws no longer apply.
So if Greenland becomes a U.S. territory, U.S. companies are
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going to enter a free-for-all to scoop up all those
tasty resources. And at the same time, they're going to
cut off Russian and Chinese companies attempting to do the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
China's also more subtle about this as... as events have,
you know, as history has proven in the Southeast Asian theater,
especially in Eastern Africa or the African continent overall, the
whole AFRICOM situation has shown us that Chinese enterprise and
Chinese mercantilism or colonialism doesn't ask you to officially annex yourself.
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You can be on paper the same country, right? We
just want your stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's a lot more like join, join our team. And yes,
we are going to, you know, extract things and make
use of things, but you'll be on our team. You know,
that's at least what I'm getting out of a lot
of the statements and sentiment that I'm seeing. The U
S really is a bully.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
It's just so, it's so blatant. China will do loans and, uh,
you know, play the corruption game and, That the U.S.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Is very good at, right? That we know.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Great, yeah. Like, guys, this is constructive criticism. We're not
here to hurt your feelings. We're just saying you need
to learn a little nuance. That's it.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
That's all it takes.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
A little bedside manner. That's all it takes. You know,
call your boy down. Buy us dinner first. Fake laugh
at a couple of jokes.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Not even all of them. That's all we want. So
we as not official representatives of Greenland also have to
point out that critics of the current U.S. administration domestically
and across the world, they are like kicked puppies and
they believe that this change, if the U.S. were to
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annex Greenland, they believe it would result in grifting of
cronyism and corruption. And looking back, like we've been saying
this whole time, looking back at the events of everything
post 1776, you know, it's, it's easy to understand why
people would be concerned, especially with the current administration. But
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then also, okay, Matt, here's the thing that bugs me.
And this is not devil's advocate stuff, but it will
be unpopular for, I think we all need to hear
this out. The US desperation here might come from another factor,
like a real politic factor. It might not just be
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some crazy dick swinging or dong hanging. The Chinese government
is the dominant creator and exporter of rare earth mining, refining,
and manufacturing for magnets. And they don't have the same
Regulations and restrictions on environmental impact so they can legally
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do more and create more stuff for vital parts of civilization.
And they've by by that virtue, they have the rest
of the world by the bowls. Yes.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
And that all goes back to the investments in in
countries in Africa.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Right. We talked about that, like the resources that exist
on that continent and how much China has been moving
into that. that whole region. And then, you know, how
much the U S has been attempting to respond or
do their own thing. And let's not pretend like the
U S hasn't been in Africa for a long time
doing the same things.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Right. Right.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But China, again, seems to be very good at getting,
getting in with folks, getting those minerals out. And it's
not a big, it doesn't appear to be a big situation.
And we also don't see a bunch of, well, Oh God,
then there's, it's all interconnected. And we know this, Yeah.
And for paying attention. But I'm thinking about the Wagner
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groups of it all, of the world, from different countries,
you know, the XEs and the Lions and all these
other things and Blackwater of it all. There's so much
stuff happening in countries where a coup occurs, but it's
not really about anything but the natural resources. And then
trying to break apart who's actually a part of which,
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you know, faction that's actually trying to get rule.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah. In the secret meetings, as we always say, folks,
in the secret meetings, you have to understand a lot
of these power players are quite collegiate with each other.
They're very well educated. They probably run low on empathy.
And they will say boardroom stuff like, we've got a
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really interesting cue for churn in environmentals. You know, the.
The bio-element has had a bit of a decline, and
when they say the bio-element, they might mean thousands of
people killed during a civil war, right? But it's great
for the environmentals.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Optics, not so great on this one, but we have
a feeling there's a story coming out in Q1 that's
going to change all of that. Just you wait.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Just you wait. There you have it. We're going to
take a pause for a word from our sponsors. Hopefully
we'll get back to you. So China last year freaked
Uncle Sam out so hard because he that government tightened
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their policies on certain exports, rare earth elements. So if
you are Uncle Sam, from your perspective, being beholden to
another country, especially a hegemonic rival, is no bueno. That
is terrible and you have to fix it. by hook
or by crook. Denmark said, why is our kingdom catching strays?
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We talked about it on Strange News a while back.
They expanded their conscription thing, which always existed, and they
have officially moved their first wave of conscripts to Greenland.
But a few days ago, folks, friends and neighbors, the
president of the United States posted a troubling map. Made
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by AI. You saw this one, Matt?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
It's so creative.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
It's so agentic. So it's a photo, and Jordan, Dylan,
I don't know if we can pull this up here,
but you can see it. It's a post on Truth
Social that shows the entirety of the North American continent,
plus the Caribbean, plus Greenland, plus Iceland, mapped out with
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no borders, just a big overlay of the United States flag.
And it says the United States of America, also Gulf
of America instead of Gulf of Mexico. The president posted
this before, you know, backtracking due to outcry. Multiple governments
reached out to their U.S. ambassadors and said, what the
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hell is going on? We don't think this is a joke.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
The public may laugh. Your people may laugh. But we
as lawmakers are concerned.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And and also you're the president of the United States.
You do realize that, right?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Right. Like you're not just some guy getting some chuckles in.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You're not some guy just riding your Adderall wave on
social media. What you say matters to the world. So
the European Union, like Matt, let's imagine, we made a
post that disturbed the EU so much that they contacted
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Greenland and gave them millions of dollars. The EU said, okay,
we are going to double down. We got your back, Denmark.
Put more boots on the ground just in case. We're
all still friends. We all still love Article 5. But also, Greenland,
here's like 200 million euro right now.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Dude, and NATO realizing, okay, we've got Canada, we've got
most of Europe, even though, you know, there's some weird
stuff going on with Germany right now in the far right.
Don't worry about that. It's fine. Don't think about it.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm very worried about it. What?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
They've never done anything that would make anybody have cause
for worry, especially on the right side. They're on the
far right. Isn't it the far left we have to
worry about in Germany, I think? Oh, God. So anyway, but,
you know, the EU, NATO is thinking, hey, we've still
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got a lot of people on our side. Now we've
just got two really big adversaries to worry about. And
imagine that the U.S. is like officially the bad guy
when it comes to NATO.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I never thought. I would see the day. I never
thought I would see the day. It's like when Superman
all of a sudden is a jerk to the Justice League,
which has happened. Okay, I've saw this. I've seen, I
read a lot of comic books.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
But he's so powerful. He can do no wrong, Ben.
When you are as powerful as Superman, what you do
is right. We've learned that.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I'm so glad Kissinger's dead. He would love this. He
would love, yeah, I know. I see it. I see
what you're doing. It's crazy, though, because still, you know,
we're talking about people who live in the area and
they are often ignored in these Western conversations. It may
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surprise some of us to learn that despite all this
hubbub and despite all the conspiracy that we have proven
is at play, a significant amount of those 56,000 people
are not opposed to mining operations because it pays the
local economy. The folks exploring resources, they hire local boats.
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They stay in local places. They buy goods and services.
This puts in a lot of cash, especially considering that
Greenland does rely on the largesse of Denmark. Their primary
economic sectors are fishing, and they get a lot of
subsidies from the kingdom. Also, the population is plummeting, which
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adds another complication because the In those few mines we
mentioned that are still working or that successfully crossed the
regulatory line into operation, a lot of the employees in
those mines are foreign workers. We're talking like people from Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan,
what have you. There are concerns from the locals of
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Greenland that if they just throw the gates wide open,
they will literally become outnumbered by foreign workers. And that
gives us necessary ingredients, high octane gas for xenophobia, for nationalism,
for fascism, very troubling, very nasty things.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Everything's great.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
This is bringing up way more things than I even
thought it would been. And it really is making me
make connections that I'm uncomfortable with.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Happening here. What's happening in your neck of the woods, right?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah. I'm on my second screen down here, Ben. I'm
looking at the UN's new map of the world.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Just trying to imagine, like, is this a better version
of the world? When I look at it, does it
make me feel differently? Is there anything to this right
outside of better representation, theoretically? Which is why the UN
approved it, except for a couple. Weren't there a couple
holdouts who said, nah. Yeah. We don't like this.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Six folks in the gang refused to say yay or nay.
And one guy, you know him, you love him, absolutely
voted against this map. His name, Uncle Sam. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Uncle Sam looks, you know, let's see. Let's look over here.
Uncle Sam looks pretty well represented up there. Canada looks
pretty giant still.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Picking a fight with that guy. But then, you know,
if you look at this new world map, the U.S.
just looks a little different and unpatriotic. Isn't Japan another
one of the countries that had a problem with it?
It's definitely represented differently on the map than up there.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
And we also have to add that the map thing
can be seen as soft power or a course correction
or symbolic. But the idea of taking over a place
to draw resources from the ground, that is hard power.
And that is also a long-term play. So the thing is,
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if you're hearing all of this, folks, and thank you
for riding deep with us, if you're hearing all of
this and you are a fan of the United States
owning Greenland, whatever that means, you have to realize that
Those mining projects, those extraction projects, they will take years
to reach fruition. It will extend far after the span
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of the current U.S. administration. And statistically, just being objective,
those projects won't reach fruition until way after the current
United States president has physically passed away. He is 80
years old. I don't know if I'll get in trouble
for that one, but it's true. It's just those are
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the numbers.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Well, he'll at least be irrelevant to this discussion, right?
That guy's policies may still be in order. Look, if
he's still the president in 10 years somehow, then we
got bigger problems, right? There's other stuff going on at
that point. But it does make me think about those
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recent AI warnings. When they're talking about in 10 years
from now, like 2036, let's say, AI is probably going
to kill all the humans if we continue on this
same trajectory. Maybe this isn't a big deal, Ben. Maybe
this whole Greenland thing, if it's over the course of
a decade, it'll be all right. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Because,
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you know, the AI will kill us anyway.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
And there we have it, folks. Thank you so much
for tuning in. There is no whistle like a graveyard whistle.
There is no humor like Gallo's humor. The thing is,
right now, the rest of the world no longer trusts
the United States. Can we blame them? We cannot. It
is inevitable that somebody will attempt to control Greenland's loot.
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and its resources. At every push of this, we see
a new era of colonization. That is the stuff they
don't want you to know. This is probably going to
be a two-part series through the magic of editing. We
would love to hear your opinions, especially if you have
visited Greenland. Uh, there are a number of ways to
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contact us. You can find us on the social needs.
Should thou sip conspiracy stuff, conspiracy stuff, show some derivation thereof.
We also, at least for now, have a phone number.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
We do. Ben, I'd like to add one last thing
here just before you get to the phone number. And
it's simply because we're recording this on September 11th, 2026.
I went back and rewatched a clip of Jon Stewart
from 2019 speaking to Congress about, um, It was funds
for first responders to 9-11. Do you remember this clip, Ben?
(40:24):
This is like.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Sure. It's gone viral again.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, very adamantly sitting before Congress and essentially pleading with
and yelling at Congress to take action, right? You are
representatives of us. You are the government. You are the government.
Take action. Look at what these human beings did. Look
at what was at stake and how courageous and tenacious
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they have been Why don't you just do your dang job?
Rewatching that again and then putting into context the AI stuff,
the geopolitical military movements that one arm of the government
is doing, it does make you wonder, what are the
other arms of the government doing? Could they do anything
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for the people of Greenland, for us, for anyone? Or
is it just useless to have that arm Right? I
don't know. Just maybe wonder about that, Ben, and maybe
wonder if you have thoughts or if you listening have thoughts.
If you're watching, you can contact us in a bunch
of ways. One is our phone number, 1-833-STDWYTK. Just give
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contact us.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Folks, before we get to that, there is so much
more to add about this Exploration on many levels of Greenland.
And I know that we have been talking a lot
about geopolitical things because they are true conspiracies and they
are incredibly important. They will touch you sooner than you think.
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Hello and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt.
Our colleague Noel is on an adventure, but we'll be
returning shortly.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
They call me Ben, and you can too. We're joined
as always with our super producer, Dylan, the Tennessee pal Fagan,
as well as returning special guest, Agent Scully with a K.
Most importantly, you are you. You are here. That makes this...
the stuff they don't want you to know. Now, fair
warning before we dive in, this is chapter two of
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a two-part series on the U.S. obsession with Greenland. So
whether you're on Netflix, whether you're on your podcast platform
of choice, or a raven is whispering this into your ear,
please ask the raven and Netflix and your podcast to
pause so you can hear chapter one first.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Yeah, it's kind of important. We laid out a whole
bunch of stuff in that one. Um, well, we just
continued to get a little weird with it as we
went down this rabbit hole.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
And we're going to sound crazy. Okay. Folks, if you
don't listen to the first episode, this is as much
for us as it is for you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
So I guess here we go.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Tennessee still has his house and we want to, quell
the waters here a little bit. After all these Brinksman
bellicose statements throughout this year and the previous administration, President
Trump met with NATO officials and took, for now, military
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action off the table. We don't know the full extent
of their backroom discussions, but he also came back stating
that economic warfare, aka tariffs, would be out of bounds. Still,
I mean, that's like good news because the statement's changed course,
but I think we can all understand why Denmark, the EU,
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and NATO aren't going to trust this guy 100% immediately, right?
I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
We saw it play out in Venezuela, right? Yeah. Oh, hey,
you know what? We're going to reconsider some things. We're
not going to do that.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Strike.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Gotcha. Ha ha. Woo hoo.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Psych.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Oh, hey, yeah, no, we're not going to attack Cuba
or anything. We're just going to, you know, let a
terrible situation proliferate there where there's no, you know, power
and constant storms and people starving.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
We're just not going to help them and we're going
to make sure, we're not going to hurt them. We're
not going to help them and we're going to make
sure no one else can help them either.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Everything, man, come on, we're not going to do stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, you guys are the ones that are being weird.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You know what I mean? We want a ceasefire in Iran,
don't we, Ben?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, we want a ceasefire.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
We don't want all this fighting.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Eh, okay, okay, all right. Don't get me up on
that hobby horse, Matt. I mean, the silliest thing here
that escapes a lot of people as well is something
we've alluded to. If the Military explanation is true. If
that's the entirety of the story, then the USA already
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has everything you would want from the world's largest island.
You don't have to annex Greenland. You don't have to
make it a U.S. territory to do all the stuff
that you wanted to do from a defense perspective. We
talked about the Betelgeuse Space Base, spelled P-I-T-U-F-F-I-K. Like you
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were saying, Matt, that has 150 people, dedicated U.S. military staff.
They're pretty much at the top of the globe. So
they can track those ICBMs, intercontinental ballistic missiles, that the
world is so worried about. You know, there are bases,
a multitude of bases that were already built in ages
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past that could be reconverted to military bases for the
United States or NATO. As a matter of fact, several
of them are still active. They're just commercial airports for
Air Greenland.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, and as we kind of alluded to earlier on
in this episode, Ben, these stations were listening stations. They
had the same sensors that the Vela satellites had or
very similar ones. Is there that double flash of a
nuclear test? Can we see intercontinental ballistic missiles that are
making their way over the top of the world in
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this way? And can we have an early warning? System
for those, or can we theoretically shoot down ICBMs that
have nukes on them? Which, you know, is a weird
little game that you could play. Can we shoot down
the missiles?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, can we catch the arrow in the air? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you know what we should do? What should we do?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
We should launch, like, hundreds if not thousands of satellites
with the capability of shooting down missiles from space. But
they'll have a targeting system with lasers that's based on land.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
We'll call it Star Wars.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Okay, well, I like the cut of your jib, General.
As a member of several corporate boards, I just need
to ask you a personal favor. Could we shoehorn AI
into this system somehow?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Bro, Ben... I know you're being silly.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But it's true.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's true. And we, in the background, we, just like you,
have been following all the news with regards to AI
and all these whistleblowers coming forward and, you know, major
players in the AI game, people who built the machines
that are running these machines currently, like the Bill Gates
of the world, who are now.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Saying, break the machine. Stop the machine.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Uh-oh. And these people who, you know, are doing the
right thing and coming forward, hey, they're just a low-level
researcher working, you know, in these systems and raising their
hand courageously and saying, hey, oh, crap, this is not good.
And now finally, like, the Bernie Sanders of the world going, oh, God,
we got to stop these things. It's happening right now,
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and the anxiety that it is building within me, Ben, is, like,
off the charts now. Because it's integrated, as you're saying,
into all of the other problems that we're already facing
geopolitically and with these systems that are, we're already designed
to destroy the world if things go a little bit wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, shoehorned, right? Like the furnace or the boiler at
the bottom of the building is already malfunctioning and we're
so excited to add some cans of paint and some
oil-soaked rags right outside the furnace door. You know what
I mean?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
That's why that trailer for Artificial needed us to look
at it and think about it. Because it is the
Sam Altman's of the world that for some reason just
don't give a shit. That's what they're doing. And they're
so down to live in that bunker for however long
it takes before emerging and becoming gods.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
And those guys are still limited by their biology. They're human, which,
if you're tuning in, guys, means you cannot eat regret,
no matter how much you generate. Well, folks, we're going
to pause for a little game here. We'll call it
Schrodinger's Sponsor, Matt, because there may or may not be
an ad.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Right now?
Speaker 2 (07:55):
We don't know yet.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Wait, was there an ad?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Did it happen? We don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Help us out here, folks. Back to the show. We
also know that historically, Denmark and the United States throughout
World War II, throughout the Cold War, they cooperated very
well with each other. So the argument from the U.S.,
if we're exercising empathy, it is understandable even if you
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do not agree. What they are saying is that the
old threats are rising. The old monsters are returning. So
we have to return to our previous defense posture. We
have to go back to the days of the wars.
But again, like since 1951, since past the close of
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World War II, Denmark, Greenland and the U.S. had this
defense agreement. It's 75 some years old at this point.
They already agreed to let the United States do whatever
they want. Uncle Sam right now can show up in
Greenland and station troops on the island. expand its military presence,
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you know, rejuvenate some of those bases. It can host
any number of interceptors and fun toys to catch the
arrows in the wind. It can do all of this,
absolutely all of it, without owning Greenland.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yes. And the GIUK gap that they're so nervous about
is on lock. Hey, man, we got the UK over there,
we got Iceland, and then we got our bases. We're
good to go. We're safe. We can do all that
right now. Isn't it weird that we're getting into a
giant trade war with Canada that has the majority of
the military bases in this region of the world? Why
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in the heck are we doing that? It doesn't make
any dang sense if we're actually worried about this stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Why are you, why?
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Why are you, why are you hopping in the car
with your best friends and at the beginning of a
road trip pointing at Canada and say, hey, I think
you're an asshole?
Speaker 3 (10:04):
We've got 16 hours left.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
We've got 16 hours left. I just want to set
the f * * * ing tone. I mean, it's
a great question, Matt, because if we, we being Uncle Sam,
already have everything needful from a security standpoint... Why all
the hubbub? Why all these tantrums? Why all these bellicose statements?
We argue to you folks, the real answer is not military.
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The real answer is resource extraction. Greenland suffers from the
resource curse, which we've talked about in previous episodes, just
like Sudan, right? Or similar to Sudan. Greenland has 25
of the 34 raw materials considered critical. They have 39
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of the 50 materials considered critical by Uncle Sam. If
you look at all the areas of the world, and
if you want to count Greenland as a country here,
Greenland is number eight on the planet with access to
rare earth elements. They have 36.1 million metric tons of
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all the stuff that makes modern civilization possible from your
vehicles to to your smartphones, which I still think is
a paradoxical name, you know, to the reason you're able
to watch this on Netflix or hear this on your
podcast platform of choice. Also, they have gold.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Also, they have gold.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Also, they got a lot of gold.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
That was a big deal here in the U.S. My
son right now, Ben, is learning about Western expansion in
the U.S. right now and talking a lot about gold.
And man, the way they generalize, they use the terms,
what they'll use is, um, a group of people are
a part of the world and then immigrant. Uh, and
then the kid, seriously, they're learning about European immigrants and
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Asian immigrants and where they went and what they did
and how, you know, they, they worked on the railroads. Right.
And so then he and I had to have this
long talk this morning. He's doing a test this morning. Just,
you know, I was just trying to give him a
little hint of the more reality of it without, you know,
totally exploding a 10-year-old's brain. Oh, man. But just the
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way people think about it and the way we're taught
about it in schools and all these things and what
the reality is of throwing, you know, human misery and
suffering at a giant thing like building a rail and
then finding the gold out in the hills somewhere, you know,
which is like, what is it, Ben? It's the carrot,
the thing that you might get. Oh, you could go
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find all kinds of gold. It's untapped resources out here
in the western U.S., Just go out there, stake a claim,
and you're going to do it. It reminds me of
that here with Greenland because it's relatively untapped, right? When
we're talking about resource extraction, a lot of the places
in the world have mines set up. These places have
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been discovered that have a lot of these minerals, tantalum
and all that. In Greenland, because it's so tough to
get to those, a lot of the places where it is,
you have to invest a lot to get stuff out.
But if you just... decide it's yours now you can
throw whatever you want at.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
It right yeah yeah you nailed it because folks the
raw appeal of these rare earth minerals and materials that's
not the only factor again this is a very small
population for a very large swath of land so if
we are a mining industry and We don't have to
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worry as much about complaints from local communities. We're far
enough up north. We're very isolated. Now, yes, we're poisoning
the environment, and nobody will know for a few years, maybe.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
All these pesky humans, Ben, that complain all the time.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Just keep them in the way. Just always complaining.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
I know, like, yeah, breathe or whatever. We can manufacture
oxygen for you guys if we need to.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Right, exactly. You know what I mean? Additionally, we know
that Greenland is a very interesting Venn diagram for this
kind of resource extraction. Glacial movement has cut through part
of the Earth, right? And volcanic activity has pulled a
lot of these things up from very deep to the surface, right?
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And there's not a lot of soil interference there. that
stops you from grabbing it. It's easier to get to
the goodies in Greenland, and that's why you'll see speculators,
I would say, optimistically, aspirationally, making statements like, hey, if
we get Greenland to play ball, we're looking at $ 186
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billion worth of all this stuff we need to make
the world run. Also, in addition to that, the lithium-
the cobalt, the gold, the tantalum, the graphite, the nickel.
They've got a lot of oil and natural gas. They've
got a lot of them.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, wow. And is there a pattern here that we're seeing, Ben,
with the U.S. going into countries and making deals via
giant oil lords about extracting natural gas and oil and stuff?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Gosh, I don't know, Matt. If we ask too much
about that, there might be a revolution on our show.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
We might get discombobulated ourselves.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Guys, we don't have any oil.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
No, no, no.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
We're like oil-free.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I have an electric lawnmower, okay? No oil at all.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I only bake my French fries, so let's all calm down.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
I have an air fryer, okay? It's using air.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
But the thing is, so... Now the question becomes, Greenland,
why haven't they played ball yet? Well, in previous decades,
it was because there was a ton of ice, right?
But now a huge part of it is that Greenland is, again,
since the early 80s, it is its own autonomous entity.
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So those 56,000 people and their governmental representatives, they get
to decide the rules of the road. So if they say, hey, hungry,
hungry hippo of Western commerce or Chinese commerce, you cannot
gobble up all our little pebbles. You can't come here
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and mine and drill. But a really weird thing happened,
by the way. While the current U.S. president was arguing
for just taking over Greenland if it wouldn't be sold
to the U.S., private companies aligned with the current administration
tried to get in front of the curve. The most
notable case was Greenland Energy. You heard about this one, Matt.
(17:00):
We can't let the name fool people. They're based in Texas.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
They call themselves Greenland Energy, but they have old school
Texas money.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
There's nothing more American than Greenland Energy. We had the
cattle ranchers, and now we got Greenland Energy.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah. And we'll pause here for a word from our sponsors.
And we've returned just last month. So we're recording on Friday,
September 11th, 2026. So just last month, as we record
(17:40):
those guys, Greenland Energy with Matt's flawless impression there and
their partner, 80 Mile. who was based in the United Kingdom,
not Detroit, they got in hot water because they had
stalled in negotiations with the government of Greenland to drill
(18:05):
for oil. And they were apparently confident enough in Uncle
Sam that they thought, we'll go ahead and move the
drilling equipment over there. You know, we'll figure it out later.
We're building the plane while we're flying it. They had
hoped to get rolling on this massive drilling project as
early as October of this year, 2026. And they said, look,
(18:28):
there are 13 billion barrels of oil resources up for grabs.
And Greenland said, what the is going on with you people? What?
They said, this project is stalled hard. And like you
and I were talking about earlier, Matt, Greenland has these
strict environmental regulations. They also require guarantees that the economy
(18:51):
will benefit the local people, those 56,000. And so now
they pulled that bureaucratic move. The drilling will start at
the earliest in winter of 2027, at the earliest. But
right now, Greenland's government is saying, They hit them with
(19:12):
a catch-22, folks. They said, the regulatory process has to
be completed. The regulatory process also cannot be completed. And therefore,
we can't approve the stuff you need to start drilling.
So they said, you need permission from us, and we're
not going to allow that permission to occur. So we've
(19:35):
set up this ouroboros of paperwork. That you shall not cross.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
You shall not pass, oil barren lords. You know, Ben,
let's go and bring it up now. We are recording
this episode on Friday, September 11th, 2026. That's correct.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
And when we're thinking about remembering this day and the attacks,
you know, it is a strange thing for those of
us who lived through that day to kind of Think
about it. Think about what happened before, right? In the
places where we invaded, what happened after, the reasons for invading.
It's just such a complicated subject. At the heart of it,
(20:21):
we've learned enough over the years to at least have
some insight about the oil of it all and the interests,
the strategic national security interests that the U.S. has in
the Middle East. And you can count them in billions
of barrels of oil. And then you begin to realize that, oh, wait,
(20:45):
it's not so much the national security interests. It is
really the resource control and extraction interests that are at play.
And the people really aiming the U.S. military at places
are the ones that seem to be, at least in
big part, the ones that control the oil, the ones
(21:06):
that extract it. sell it to all of us and
make the world and the military move. 100%.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah. Well said, Matt. And also I would advance to
anybody who is thinking, oh, these are big and abstract things.
Just wait. Diesel has hit $ 6 per gallon on average
here in the United States as we record this evening.
And this may be a two-part series. I wish we
(21:33):
had time to get further into this. But it doesn't
matter if you do or do not drive a diesel
vehicle because the transit system of the United States depends
upon diesel to give you all your stuff, to give
you access to it. So you can expect, and we'll
go on record here, it's 12.46 p.m. Friday, September 11, 2026.
(21:57):
you can expect in the coming months a sharp increase
in the prices of a lot of things that you
think have nothing to do with diesel.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Hey, but there will always be free shipping, though, Ben,
as long as I have a membership.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Right. I'm trying to look into a literal membership. Like,
can I buy an interest in a cargo ship? How
much does that cost?
Speaker 3 (22:22):
Bro, I'm not kidding. Spent the better part of last
night looking at properties in the North Georgia mountains. Oh, yeah.
And then that conversation and whole situation moved into, well,
what about something that floats?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
A little more mobile. Dude, I'm looking at Wisconsin hard.
actually so okay all right let's double dragon we'll hang
out uh dylan you could come over there and also
you know per our nato agreement we're gonna do our
best to defend your warehouse uh so.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah yeah yeah yeah because it's about defense.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Can you make my house float i'm sure i've got
some ideas uh throw enough uh.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Throw enough of that styrofoam under there and we can
make anything float i promise.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, just wait long enough. You know, we're not that
far inland. So if you allow us to connect some
dots here, folks, the evidence indicates that the U.S. desire
to own Greenland is about more than national defense. That's
the window dressing that is being sold to you as
a bill of goods. The real goal, I think we
(23:30):
can all agree, is to extract resources. That is the
only difference between working with Greenland and owning Greenland. Because
if the U.S. owns Greenland, then Denmark's opinion, the kingdom's opinion,
it does not matter. Greenland's current laws no longer apply.
So if Greenland becomes a U.S. territory, U.S. companies are
(23:54):
going to enter a free-for-all to scoop up all those
tasty resources. And at the same time, they're going to
cut off Russian and Chinese companies attempting to do the
same thing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
China's also more subtle about this as... as events have,
you know, as history has proven in the Southeast Asian theater,
especially in Eastern Africa or the African continent overall, the
whole AFRICOM situation has shown us that Chinese enterprise and
Chinese mercantilism or colonialism doesn't ask you to officially annex yourself.
(24:32):
You can be on paper the same country, right? We
just want your stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
It's a lot more like join, join our team. And yes,
we are going to, you know, extract things and make
use of things, but you'll be on our team. You know,
that's at least what I'm getting out of a lot
of the statements and sentiment that I'm seeing. The U
S really is a bully.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
It's just so, it's so blatant. China will do loans and, uh,
you know, play the corruption game and, That the U.S.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Is very good at, right? That we know.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Great, yeah. Like, guys, this is constructive criticism. We're not
here to hurt your feelings. We're just saying you need
to learn a little nuance. That's it.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
That's all it takes.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
A little bedside manner. That's all it takes. You know,
call your boy down. Buy us dinner first. Fake laugh
at a couple of jokes.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That's all.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Not even all of them. That's all we want. So
we as not official representatives of Greenland also have to
point out that critics of the current U.S. administration domestically
and across the world, they are like kicked puppies and
they believe that this change, if the U.S. were to
(25:54):
annex Greenland, they believe it would result in grifting of
cronyism and corruption. And looking back, like we've been saying
this whole time, looking back at the events of everything
post 1776, you know, it's, it's easy to understand why
people would be concerned, especially with the current administration. But
(26:17):
then also, okay, Matt, here's the thing that bugs me.
And this is not devil's advocate stuff, but it will
be unpopular for, I think we all need to hear
this out. The US desperation here might come from another factor,
like a real politic factor. It might not just be
(26:37):
some crazy dick swinging or dong hanging. The Chinese government
is the dominant creator and exporter of rare earth mining, refining,
and manufacturing for magnets. And they don't have the same
Regulations and restrictions on environmental impact so they can legally
(27:00):
do more and create more stuff for vital parts of civilization.
And they've by by that virtue, they have the rest
of the world by the bowls. Yes.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
And that all goes back to the investments in in
countries in Africa.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Right. We talked about that, like the resources that exist
on that continent and how much China has been moving
into that. that whole region. And then, you know, how
much the U S has been attempting to respond or
do their own thing. And let's not pretend like the
U S hasn't been in Africa for a long time
doing the same things.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Right. Right.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
But China, again, seems to be very good at getting,
getting in with folks, getting those minerals out. And it's
not a big, it doesn't appear to be a big situation.
And we also don't see a bunch of, well, Oh God,
then there's, it's all interconnected. And we know this, Yeah.
And for paying attention. But I'm thinking about the Wagner
(27:59):
groups of it all, of the world, from different countries,
you know, the XEs and the Lions and all these
other things and Blackwater of it all. There's so much
stuff happening in countries where a coup occurs, but it's
not really about anything but the natural resources. And then
trying to break apart who's actually a part of which,
(28:22):
you know, faction that's actually trying to get rule.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah. In the secret meetings, as we always say, folks,
in the secret meetings, you have to understand a lot
of these power players are quite collegiate with each other.
They're very well educated. They probably run low on empathy.
And they will say boardroom stuff like, we've got a
(28:47):
really interesting cue for churn in environmentals. You know, the.
The bio-element has had a bit of a decline, and
when they say the bio-element, they might mean thousands of
people killed during a civil war, right? But it's great
for the environmentals.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Optics, not so great on this one, but we have
a feeling there's a story coming out in Q1 that's
going to change all of that. Just you wait.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Just you wait. There you have it. We're going to
take a pause for a word from our sponsors. Hopefully
we'll get back to you. So China last year freaked
Uncle Sam out so hard because he that government tightened
(29:41):
their policies on certain exports, rare earth elements. So if
you are Uncle Sam, from your perspective, being beholden to
another country, especially a hegemonic rival, is no bueno. That
is terrible and you have to fix it. by hook
or by crook. Denmark said, why is our kingdom catching strays?
(30:05):
We talked about it on Strange News a while back.
They expanded their conscription thing, which always existed, and they
have officially moved their first wave of conscripts to Greenland.
But a few days ago, folks, friends and neighbors, the
president of the United States posted a troubling map. Made
(30:28):
by AI. You saw this one, Matt?
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
It's so creative.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
It's so agentic. So it's a photo, and Jordan, Dylan,
I don't know if we can pull this up here,
but you can see it. It's a post on Truth
Social that shows the entirety of the North American continent,
plus the Caribbean, plus Greenland, plus Iceland, mapped out with
(31:01):
no borders, just a big overlay of the United States flag.
And it says the United States of America, also Gulf
of America instead of Gulf of Mexico. The president posted
this before, you know, backtracking due to outcry. Multiple governments
reached out to their U.S. ambassadors and said, what the
(31:24):
hell is going on? We don't think this is a joke.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
The public may laugh. Your people may laugh. But we
as lawmakers are concerned.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And and also you're the president of the United States.
You do realize that, right?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Right. Like you're not just some guy getting some chuckles in.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Right.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
You're not some guy just riding your Adderall wave on
social media. What you say matters to the world. So
the European Union, like Matt, let's imagine, we made a
post that disturbed the EU so much that they contacted
(32:11):
Greenland and gave them millions of dollars. The EU said, okay,
we are going to double down. We got your back, Denmark.
Put more boots on the ground just in case. We're
all still friends. We all still love Article 5. But also, Greenland,
here's like 200 million euro right now.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
Dude, and NATO realizing, okay, we've got Canada, we've got
most of Europe, even though, you know, there's some weird
stuff going on with Germany right now in the far right.
Don't worry about that. It's fine. Don't think about it.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I'm very worried about it. What?
Speaker 3 (32:48):
They've never done anything that would make anybody have cause
for worry, especially on the right side. They're on the
far right. Isn't it the far left we have to
worry about in Germany, I think? Oh, God. So anyway, but,
you know, the EU, NATO is thinking, hey, we've still
(33:08):
got a lot of people on our side. Now we've
just got two really big adversaries to worry about. And
imagine that the U.S. is like officially the bad guy
when it comes to NATO.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
I never thought. I would see the day. I never
thought I would see the day. It's like when Superman
all of a sudden is a jerk to the Justice League,
which has happened. Okay, I've saw this. I've seen, I
read a lot of comic books.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
But he's so powerful. He can do no wrong, Ben.
When you are as powerful as Superman, what you do
is right. We've learned that.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I'm so glad Kissinger's dead. He would love this. He
would love, yeah, I know. I see it. I see
what you're doing. It's crazy, though, because still, you know,
we're talking about people who live in the area and
they are often ignored in these Western conversations. It may
(34:05):
surprise some of us to learn that despite all this
hubbub and despite all the conspiracy that we have proven
is at play, a significant amount of those 56,000 people
are not opposed to mining operations because it pays the
local economy. The folks exploring resources, they hire local boats.
(34:27):
They stay in local places. They buy goods and services.
This puts in a lot of cash, especially considering that
Greenland does rely on the largesse of Denmark. Their primary
economic sectors are fishing, and they get a lot of
subsidies from the kingdom. Also, the population is plummeting, which
(34:49):
adds another complication because the In those few mines we
mentioned that are still working or that successfully crossed the
regulatory line into operation, a lot of the employees in
those mines are foreign workers. We're talking like people from Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan,
what have you. There are concerns from the locals of
(35:12):
Greenland that if they just throw the gates wide open,
they will literally become outnumbered by foreign workers. And that
gives us necessary ingredients, high octane gas for xenophobia, for nationalism,
for fascism, very troubling, very nasty things.
Speaker 1 (35:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Everything's great.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
This is bringing up way more things than I even
thought it would been. And it really is making me
make connections that I'm uncomfortable with.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Happening here. What's happening in your neck of the woods, right?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yeah. I'm on my second screen down here, Ben. I'm
looking at the UN's new map of the world.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Just trying to imagine, like, is this a better version
of the world? When I look at it, does it
make me feel differently? Is there anything to this right
outside of better representation, theoretically? Which is why the UN
approved it, except for a couple. Weren't there a couple
holdouts who said, nah. Yeah. We don't like this.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Six folks in the gang refused to say yay or nay.
And one guy, you know him, you love him, absolutely
voted against this map. His name, Uncle Sam. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Uncle Sam looks, you know, let's see. Let's look over here.
Uncle Sam looks pretty well represented up there. Canada looks
pretty giant still.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Picking a fight with that guy. But then, you know,
if you look at this new world map, the U.S.
just looks a little different and unpatriotic. Isn't Japan another
one of the countries that had a problem with it?
It's definitely represented differently on the map than up there.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
And we also have to add that the map thing
can be seen as soft power or a course correction
or symbolic. But the idea of taking over a place
to draw resources from the ground, that is hard power.
And that is also a long-term play. So the thing is,
(37:30):
if you're hearing all of this, folks, and thank you
for riding deep with us, if you're hearing all of
this and you are a fan of the United States
owning Greenland, whatever that means, you have to realize that
Those mining projects, those extraction projects, they will take years
to reach fruition. It will extend far after the span
(37:52):
of the current U.S. administration. And statistically, just being objective,
those projects won't reach fruition until way after the current
United States president has physically passed away. He is 80
years old. I don't know if I'll get in trouble
for that one, but it's true. It's just those are
(38:12):
the numbers.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Well, he'll at least be irrelevant to this discussion, right?
That guy's policies may still be in order. Look, if
he's still the president in 10 years somehow, then we
got bigger problems, right? There's other stuff going on at
that point. But it does make me think about those
(38:37):
recent AI warnings. When they're talking about in 10 years
from now, like 2036, let's say, AI is probably going
to kill all the humans if we continue on this
same trajectory. Maybe this isn't a big deal, Ben. Maybe
this whole Greenland thing, if it's over the course of
a decade, it'll be all right. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Because,
(39:03):
you know, the AI will kill us anyway.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
And there we have it, folks. Thank you so much
for tuning in. There is no whistle like a graveyard whistle.
There is no humor like Gallo's humor. The thing is,
right now, the rest of the world no longer trusts
the United States. Can we blame them? We cannot. It
is inevitable that somebody will attempt to control Greenland's loot.
(39:30):
and its resources. At every push of this, we see
a new era of colonization. That is the stuff they
don't want you to know. This is probably going to
be a two-part series through the magic of editing. We
would love to hear your opinions, especially if you have
visited Greenland. Uh, there are a number of ways to
(39:50):
contact us. You can find us on the social needs.
Should thou sip conspiracy stuff, conspiracy stuff, show some derivation thereof.
We also, at least for now, have a phone number.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
We do. Ben, I'd like to add one last thing
here just before you get to the phone number. And
it's simply because we're recording this on September 11th, 2026.
I went back and rewatched a clip of Jon Stewart
from 2019 speaking to Congress about, um, It was funds
for first responders to 9-11. Do you remember this clip, Ben?
(40:24):
This is like.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Sure. It's gone viral again.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Yeah, very adamantly sitting before Congress and essentially pleading with
and yelling at Congress to take action, right? You are
representatives of us. You are the government. You are the government.
Take action. Look at what these human beings did. Look
at what was at stake and how courageous and tenacious
(40:48):
they have been Why don't you just do your dang job?
Rewatching that again and then putting into context the AI stuff,
the geopolitical military movements that one arm of the government
is doing, it does make you wonder, what are the
other arms of the government doing? Could they do anything
(41:11):
for the people of Greenland, for us, for anyone? Or
is it just useless to have that arm Right? I
don't know. Just maybe wonder about that, Ben, and maybe
wonder if you have thoughts or if you listening have thoughts.
If you're watching, you can contact us in a bunch
of ways. One is our phone number, 1-833-STDWYTK. Just give
(41:33):
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contact us.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Folks, before we get to that, there is so much
more to add about this Exploration on many levels of Greenland.
And I know that we have been talking a lot
about geopolitical things because they are true conspiracies and they
are incredibly important. They will touch you sooner than you think.
(42:05):
So please do check out our recent episodes and love
a little help. Fellow conspiracy realist getting some some fun,
creepy paranormal stuff as we move into the best season.
of the sort of arbitrary calendar year, not to pick
a fight with the calendar again, but give us your
(42:26):
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