In this edition of Big Momma's Trend, Jack and special guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan discuss Amazon bringing back 'The Apprentice' (feat. DoJu), the Supreme Court ruining voting, the Loveland Frogman, Irans' soccer team being blocked by FIFA, OpenAI and goblins, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Big
Mama's trend That one courtesy of Vanadium Silver on the discord.
I would have also accepted Martrand, which I believe Vanadium
Silver suggested down below. But we've had some conversations about
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that's Martin Lawrence. What a talent he is, a profound talent.
Is Shane in the room with us right now? Did
you ever go on inside the actors studio.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
In particular?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, just in the room with us. I'm thrilled to
be joined in our guest spot today by polonium polyab gunala.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
My Zach Gez brings all the boys to the yard
and they're like, this news is better than your's.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Damn. Right then, like a pod you might not have
to charge. Damn, you just burnt a perfectly good AKA
on a trending out. I'm going to do it. I'm
going to do it. I make mistake for somebody who's
poisoned miles and burnt down his head and do all
these things. You should know not to overachiever.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But what can I tell you? I make it up
for all the times I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's wonderful to have you here for this lovely day
of news. Just swing your thought things could possibly be.
We might be headed for a nice win. Democracy strikes
back and we're like, well, they've fucked this up and
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now everybody hates Republicans and they're going to lose. The
Supreme Court comes through and fox it all up and
makes it so that they have an unfair advantage. We'll
get to that, but first, Paul of you, of course,
we have to talk about the funniest news of the day,
which is that Amazon wants to do a reboot of
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The Apprentice starring Did you hear this No, Donald Trump Junior.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh my gosh, there is. He's gonna have so much cocaine.
And his writer like.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
This is I gotta get my mel Robbins on here
and say let them, honey, let them let them do this. Uh,
this is like the most first of all, he couldn't be.
He's the most uncharismatic human being that I've ever seen
(02:47):
on camera.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
His two rates.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Skills are making people hate him by doing, not just
like by being himself. He has like what what whatever
like hairs people have. He has the opposite of that,
Like just by being in a room with him, you're
like Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's why him and jd Vance, That's why he's like
he's like saw something in jd Vance that was just
like himself, and it's that feeling of like, Ooh.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I think jd Vance is like one of the worst,
Like yes, makes your skin crawl immediately. I think he's
so much more charismatic than Donald Trump Jinger. The other
thing he has is a unique inability to hide the
fact that he's on cocaine. Like he nobody. He is
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an open book when the message of that book is
I'm on cocaine right now. His eyes like get very glassy.
He's got like the most evident cocaine eyes ever. His
personality like still sucks, but like he he just.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Do you think do you think he's gonna get the
line wrong and he's gonna be like I'm fired.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Oh shit, sorry, this should have been This is such
a bad idea. This should have actually been pitched by Democrats.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Just to keep him busy.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Maybe you go cocaine eyes. This's courtesy of Brian the Editor,
I feel the magic inside your cocaine as Anyways, Amazon
is doing this because for the same reason they did
the Millenia documentary. Apparently they were also talking about doing
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a Donald Trump documentary that never happened. But they just
keep making projects that are going to appeal to Trump's ego,
which is discouraging because it does feel like this is
the sort of thing that would take a couple of
years to make, and that they're apparently long on the
Trump administration. I was hoping that at some point they'd
(04:56):
be like, oh, this guy's going to like die or
be out of office, and then I a couple of years.
But uh, now they're they're still doing the elaborate bribes,
so we'll.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
See wild wild that we think that appealing to his
ego will help in any way former fashion, given that
everyone has already done that and we're in a war
with Iran, Like what at what point?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, they don't mind. They're making it's making rich people richer,
so they're they're good with that. That is what I
say to the world in generally writ large, I do
a broadly gesture at everything and go all right. We
should talk about the Supreme Court dealing a death blow
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to the Voting Rights Act. The conservative justices of the
Court have taken taken all ability for people for the
Voting Rights Act to be like to have any for
they've just they've defanged it to death. It's essentially dead.
They said that lawmakers drawing maps in Louisiana to give
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minority populations representation can't do that. Essentially, the majority opinion
holds that racism is over in the United States when
it comes to elections, so.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We no longer need the Vote in Rights Act, and
they've so this is basically like rolled back civil rights
like insanely, it's sickening. They've already like suspended the May
sixteenth primary election in Louisiana in order to disenfranchise black
votes that have already been put through. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, they're like this is basically they're like, all right,
y'all can do whatever you want. It's just open season
for racist legislation, like do whatever you want, which, by
the way, is what they're legislating. Like that's one thing
that you know, people are pointing out is that like
by doing something based on their opinion on the state
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of society, like the Supreme Court is technically not supposed
to do that. And their whole argument is they've been
getting more and more conservative. Is like I just call
balls and strikes about the law and the legality. And
then in this opinion, they're like, as we can see
from the way that the world works today, racism is over,
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which like you're I don't know, but again, it just
feels like mask off, like they keep taking they keep
taking the masks off. There. It's like a Scooby Doo
double double twist ending.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I read parts of both like the majority and minority opinion,
and I have a hypothetical question that we can cut
from the pot if we need to. When are we
allowed to incite violence? You're writing an essay on why
black people can't vote? Fuck you right? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
This is like like taking to the streets, like what
is what do we do?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
What to do? This is from Kagan's descent. It was
born of the literal blood of Union soldiers and civil
rights marchers. It ushered in awe inspiring change, bringing this
nation closer to fulfilling the ideals of democracy and racial equity.
And it has been repeatedly and overwhelmingly reauthorized by the
people's representatives in Congress. Only they have the right to
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say it is no longer needed, not the members of
this court. I dissent. Then from this latest chapter in
the majorities now completed demolition of the voting right SEC
so pretty pretty clear.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
She's it's so crazy to me. I was watching this
court or I don't know if he was a correspondent
or just someone I think on CNN who was expressing
his anger about this, and he still had to be
really measured. And it's so frustrating, Like I don't want
to on behalf of black people obviously, but like just
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as an outside observer, seeing how much they've had to
fight for everything and they're at the forefront of every cause.
Only for them to be like left behind when even
the left is thinking about strategic moves is so disappointing.
And they have foreseen every like like terrible outcome of
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not organizing politically and just are consistently not listened to
and are treated as just like a voting block every
four years, right, or you know, it's so shitty, Brian says,
speaking for all black or for black people here, all
y'all suck. It's true, we fucking do like we are not.
There's not a black person on this pod right now
(09:46):
that Brian doesn't have a voice. Brian's that's right.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
We specifically cut as Mike, Yeah, I said, because he's yeah, Yeah,
it's incredibly frustrating. And they're using it immediately.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
They're using it immediately. They've already like slavery is already legal,
and it's already obviously disproportionately affecting black people in prison,
which is how they legalize it. And now I'm like,
are they just going to do it? Like we thought
they wouldn't drop Roe v.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Wade.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
We thought they wouldn't drop the voting rights, like they're
doing everything they can to profit off of other people,
especially black people, like black people in particular.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, so this is we were wondering, like, how how
does Trump get out of this spot that he's in
where he's facing a referendum and this is definitely going
to make it harder for Democrats to take over and
you know, hold him to account in Congress. The Supreme
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Court is it's not a it's not an accident that
I mean, it is an accident, But it is appropriate
that Supreme and white supremacy, you know, have the same
word in it because they have been a instrument for
white supremacy for years and years and even when they
(11:18):
do a little give us a little one they're like, Okay, well,
we'll make it so that Donald Trump can't actually call
himself the King of America and shoot someone in the
streets as he's requesting.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's less damage than what they've already done. They're killed.
They're killing black people like they're just killing black people now,
and they've been killing like everybody in the streets with ice.
Like anything that he says or does that's anecdotal or individual,
I think is obviously a distraction. We've stopped talking about
the Epstein Viles. What the fuck?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah? And Brian's question, what the fuck was Congress going
to do a whole lot as long as the opposition with.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Their monkey pod fingers but sucking Mitch McConnell, another monkey poffinger,
curls that he continues to live another day.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. He's still like he he started just having
like the rainbow wheel of death spinning years ago and
he's still out here breathing. And uh yeah, well all right,
let's let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll
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talk about the Loveland frog Man, Ohio's submission for their
official cryptid status. We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Interesting and we're back, and let's talk about cryptids. Let's
let's talk about let's talk.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
About maybe.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
So Ohio's state House is focusing on the important things.
Not a real state Ohio. One of the real estates
there is Ohio state of mind making the uh so,
they're trying to make the Loveland frog man the state's
official cryptid. First of all, I didn't realize states had
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official cryptids, but apparently they're trying to make it a thing.
California is twenty twenty five AB six six six tried
and failed to make a Bigfoot their official cryptid.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Okay, I was like, what in the Mountain Lion naming
scheme is that I know?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I think I think it was named by edge lords
who are like, I'm into cryptids. That's kind of my thing.
But anyways, I just want to read directly from the
bill because I started it being like this is stupid
as fuck, and then by the end of this excerpt,
I was like, I think I'm on board. The legendary,
very and beloved amphibious creature known as the Loveland frog
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or Loveland frog man, first reported in the nineteen fifties
and said to inhabit the banks of the Little Miami
River near Loveland, Ohio, described as a frog like bipedal
creature standing approximately four feet tall, which has inspired books, documentaries,
local festivals, artwork, merchandise, local tourism, encrypted enthusiasts and researchers.
(14:27):
God they love a fucking run on sentence, and has
contributed to the local economy, creative culture, and unique cultural
identity and oral history of this state is hereby adopted
as the official state cryptive woo.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Another fun fact about the Loveland frogman, he is the
first uncle of the WB frog.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Mm hmmm. Actually a lot of people don't know that.
There's a lot of nepotism going on.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Wikipedia's artistic rendering of the Loveland frog shows at scale
compared to humans, like.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
The little it's in the same pose with its arms out. Yeah,
it's just like separated.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
He kind of has the body posture of a dog
when the dog is taking a shit.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You know, like software engineers. But that makes it seem
even worse when you put it right next to that.
So they're they're just kind of short little guys.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Not not so short. You would still be completely freaked
out by seeing them short for a man, Oh no,
I dap them up, terrifyingly big for a frog. But yeah,
he also looks surprised, perpetually surprised, with his hands out
in front.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Of him, imagining him in a suit. Also, I feel
like that's the size of a regular frog in Australia.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right, there's just an Australian frog. It's not a frog.
This is a frog frog. This is the started originated
from the nineteen fifty five story of a traveling salesman
seeing figures standing on their hind legs, being about three
to four feet tall, having frog faces and leathery skin.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Guaranteed that traveling salesman just licked a frog and then
came up with this story.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So we do have some explanation. A police officer spotted
the frogman again in nineteen seventy two. A couple weeks later,
another police officer spotted the frogman and shot it immediately.
Jesus turned out to be a pet iguana missing its tail.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We're horrible. Why would you shoot a creature.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Like a It's a mysterious animal that makes me question
everything I know. Let me shoot it immediately.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
This is why the aliens know about us and they're
skipping our planet. There's no way. They're like, there's too
many guns.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
On this planet. It it's it is interesting to think
about it as just like a piece of culture though.
That's what I like about the bill. Yeah, they describe
it as like, you know, something that's inspired books, documentaries,
local festivals, artwork, merchandise, local tourism, encrypted enthusiasts and researchers,
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you know, the fun little thing. But it does somethow
turn into a thing. But they're all armed as they're
doing the research.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Militia.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
All right, let's get through some other news stories. Iran's
soccer team is being blocked from attending a World Cup event,
and Donald Trump recently suggested that FIFA should replace Iran
soccer team with Italy's for the World Cup, despite the
fact that Italy didn't qualify and Iran actually did qualify,
(17:49):
but FIFA rejected that idea. But Canadian immigration officials in
Toronto just blocked the Iranian team from entering the country
for a FIFA congress meeting in Vancouver.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Riley Gaines is somewhere rooting for Italy. She's like, they
came in fifth and they should go to first.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Why as Donald Trump likes them and that's the only reason. Yeah,
so I don't know. Well, they're still figuring this one out.
Back to the world of cryptids. Open ai, did you
see the story about open ai and goblins? So? Open
ai recently posted the open sourcing for codex cli, open
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AI's most recent flagship coding agent. I don't really know
what most of that means, but it didn't take long
for some people to notice that it contained a prompt
for chat GPT five point five two quote never talk
about goblins, gremlins, raccoons, trolls, ogres, pigeons, or other animals
or creatures unless it is absolutely and unambiguously relevant to
(18:56):
the user's query. What yeah, why they just can't? So?
Oh that detail and your question why? He quickly went viral.
In response, OpenAI published a blog post explaining that when
they're GPT five point one launched in November, users complained
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about specific verbal tics, namely that it wouldn't shut the
fuck up about goblins, gremlins, and others. Gremlin references rose
by fifty two percent, not that bad well. Mentioning goblins
shot up one hundred and seventy five percent. Seems like
(19:41):
too many goblins. Some people are saying that this might
be on account of like they're being chat GPT being
inherently racist, and goblin is a coded antisemitic term, and
then raccoon obviously is a quoted anti black racist.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I thought it was just fun and quirky, and then
it's always racist, it always man.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
But the company is not acknowledged. The company is blaming
the trend on their personality customization feature, specifically the nerdy personality.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
They turn the silicon nerd all the way up and
the knob for racist turns all the way up simultaneous. Right, Wait,
what you're like, what is this going?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The nerdy personality was encouraged to undercut pretension through playful
use of language because the world is complex and strange
and it's strangeness must be acknowledged, analyzed, and enjoyed. And
because of how reinforcement learning can work, they discovered that
the nerdy personality loves goblins, and that that transferred to
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other parts of its models.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So whatever, I'm whatever, man, I'm it's it's all racist.
Brian wanted me to be happier for the second half,
and I'm going back to racism again.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, Brian pointed, this is the least favorite part of
AI as the personality, which truly like, we have a
little Amazon echo thing in our kitchen that I've tried
to remove multiple times, but my family's like, no, we like.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Oh, I thought you meant it. It just comes back
in mysteriously.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I don't know. I think it's I think it's inhabited.
It's like broken into my children's brain. They're like, I
like being able.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
To grandpositive set a timer, set a timer.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, it is convenient for that. You'd be like when
you're cooking, you can be like set a fifteen minute
timer four oven, set a five minute timer for stove.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Set a five year timer for climate change to destroy
its all.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Sam Altman has been joking about it on Twitter, but
worth remembering this is the same guy who said that
chat GPT was an essential tool for looking after babies.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So also when you say, like these guys joke, they
they're not that they don't know how to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That's not I think that is the problem. Like the
word the worst part, the thing that most people can't
deal with, like they hate about these AIS, and that
is like causing them all of the problems is like
the personality, quirks the thing where it's like okay, what's up,
fuck face, Like you know, like has like that energy
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like coming in like yeah, yeah, you think you're so
like that.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's just like or whatever keeps calling me face.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's like it's bringing in like a flirtation that everyone's
like kind of put off by or something. But some
people apparently like desperately need it. Yeah, and they like,
I think the fact that they don't have personalities of
their own or the ability to like interact with people
in a way that is human and humane and normal
(22:52):
like that that is the magic of the thing. They're like, well, yeah,
this thing, like did like it. All you have to
do is look at like Elon on the Joe Rogan Show,
like just playing jokes from his uh grock over and
over again and just like laughing his ass off. It's like, yeah, no,
this is this is what it. It's just there as
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a thing to fill in where they have no no personality. Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Also, I do want to say we Disney Channel original
movie Smart House predicted this decades ago and we should
have listened. Okay, there is a there is a downside
to technology where it we'll try to kidnap you and
your children and make you fall in love with it?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Is that what smart House does? No spoilers, Yeah, House
that like has its own personality, but the personality it
turns out person hood. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, it's terrifying and it's so true.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah. Wow, such a dumb future, Like of all the
movies that it could have been, it's like a Disney
Channel sci fi thing is the future that we ended
up with? That and then like every movie about dystopia. Yeah,
all right, we want to talk about the Donald Trump
crypto empire. It's another It's just it's like not going well.
(24:17):
His Like the day of the White House Correspondent dinner,
he had a gathering for top holders of his meme coin,
which is not doing well. It's down and I think
this is bad even in his percentages, where things can
be like up and down like six hundred percent, but
his meme coin is down ninety six percent since January
(24:38):
twenty twenty five, which that seems bad. Right.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
This is like logan Paul numbers, right or was it
justin Bieber who's n FT fell or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, yeah, he's putting up Bieber numbers, but not early
Bieber numbers. Late stage beiber.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Numbers cut late stage bieber fever, but he so.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Through a party on the day of the White House
Correspondent Dinner, complete with lunchtime speaker Mike Tyson, Mike, What's
what's happening?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
What is happening?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Please stop? Uh? Free trading cards and perfume for attendees.
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I have an explanation. There was a transfer of energy
during the the Jake Paul fight.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And now they take body searching.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Jake Paul fight.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, guests were invited only if they won a convoluted
contest that involved gaining points by buying up Trump's coins,
holding and then holding onto them. Every hour that they
didn't sell gave them an additional point. So, yes, this
is like a very convoluted thing. I think we all
owe pyramid schemes and apology based on how stupid and
(25:56):
convoluted and little this makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Pyramids came are just like America's next top model. You
want to be on top. That's the only way you can.
You can make it.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Right, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that might be only his second.
The one that's down ninety six percent might be his
second worst. Cryptogrift because he also has his family Cryptogrift,
which is World Liberty Financial that they launched together in
twenty twenty four, which is a crypto platform that advertises
itself as the alternative to woke banks. They're clearly just
(26:31):
for financial elites. Donald Trump doesn't even know what a like.
Baron had to teach him what a wallet is.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So Baron is the regular wallet because this man only
holds gold bars.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That's right. Baron is also on there as like a
co founder, one of the founders of Liberty Bank.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I'm still thinking about Edward Goldbar's hands.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's like, that's this critique of Edwards scissor hands.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Why is his hands not gold bars?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Scissors aren't worth shit? Should be Edward Goldbar's hands. Yeah,
it's a really it's a really good pitch. But one
of the company's only digital assets has lost fifty percent
of its value since January, and people are now suspicious
of like some loans that they've gotten from weirdly, like
(27:27):
from very friendly places, and like valuations and like it all.
It all just seems like even in the world of crypto,
people are like, oh, this seems this seems like bullshit.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I actually do empathize with crypto because I've also lost
fifty percent of my value very short amount of times
since January.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I think we're all it's hill not unlike most of
our collective spirits dawn ninety six percent since January twenty
twenty five. Yep, But yeah, I don't know. It just
seems like a thing that is blatantly a rug pull
over and over again like that. That seems to be
what the entire business model of this is. They also,
(28:11):
I think a lot of their valuation was like came
from a five hundred million dollar infusion of cash from
cheap Tanun bin Zayed al Nyon, the brother and national
security advisor to the UAE.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
On my password, good.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Luck getting in assholes. Also good luck getting into you.
You can't remember whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I know. I'm like, damn it, I'm late for TDZ.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
But he gave them five hundred million dollars four days
before the inauguration in twenty twenty five. So that's that's
the sort of thing we're dealing with on the crypto front.
It just feels like it's all a way to legalize corruption.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Are we the bodies?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Are we the bad guys?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Wait a second, always Brian the editor.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Says, business model, joint business plan, give me it at
exit strategy, smoke bomb.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That's it's the we're living in the monorail episode of
the Simpsons.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, exactly, over over and over and over and over again,
my business plan. You're going to watch this episode of
the Simpsons. Uh, Paul, such a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Having you, Jack O'Brien, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'm at Paula viganaland p A L l A v
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another guest spot too. So a couple more guest spots.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But you are at every minute that the show is
not sold out. You are taking a joke away.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, there's a stack of jokes on the table, and
I'm starting with Mahondz because he's the man.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Right, He's gonna just have to get out there. I'm
not saying anything funny if you guys don't heard silence too,
but yeah, amazing, Go do that show out, zeke Gang.
That's going to do it for this afternoon. We are
back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,
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get your vaccines where you still can get your flu shots,
don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
to y'all tomorrow.
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that's Martin Lawrence. What a talent he is, a profound talent.
Is Shane in the room with us right now? Did
you ever go on inside the actors studio.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
In particular?
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, just in the room with us. I'm thrilled to
be joined in our guest spot today by polonium polyab gunala.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
My Zach Gez brings all the boys to the yard
and they're like, this news is better than your's.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Damn. Right then, like a pod you might not have
to charge. Damn, you just burnt a perfectly good AKA
on a trending out. I'm going to do it. I'm
going to do it. I make mistake for somebody who's
poisoned miles and burnt down his head and do all
these things. You should know not to overachiever.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
But what can I tell you? I make it up
for all the times I didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
It's wonderful to have you here for this lovely day
of news. Just swing your thought things could possibly be.
We might be headed for a nice win. Democracy strikes
back and we're like, well, they've fucked this up and
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now everybody hates Republicans and they're going to lose. The
Supreme Court comes through and fox it all up and
makes it so that they have an unfair advantage. We'll
get to that, but first, Paul of you, of course,
we have to talk about the funniest news of the day,
which is that Amazon wants to do a reboot of
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The Apprentice starring Did you hear this No, Donald Trump Junior.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh my gosh, there is. He's gonna have so much cocaine.
And his writer like.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
This is I gotta get my mel Robbins on here
and say let them, honey, let them let them do this. Uh,
this is like the most first of all, he couldn't be.
He's the most uncharismatic human being that I've ever seen
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on camera.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
His two rates.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Skills are making people hate him by doing, not just
like by being himself. He has like what what whatever
like hairs people have. He has the opposite of that,
Like just by being in a room with him, you're
like Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
That's why him and jd Vance, That's why he's like
he's like saw something in jd Vance that was just
like himself, and it's that feeling of like, Ooh.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I think jd Vance is like one of the worst,
Like yes, makes your skin crawl immediately. I think he's
so much more charismatic than Donald Trump Jinger. The other
thing he has is a unique inability to hide the
fact that he's on cocaine. Like he nobody. He is
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an open book when the message of that book is
I'm on cocaine right now. His eyes like get very glassy.
He's got like the most evident cocaine eyes ever. His
personality like still sucks, but like he he just.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Do you think do you think he's gonna get the
line wrong and he's gonna be like I'm fired.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Oh shit, sorry, this should have been This is such
a bad idea. This should have actually been pitched by Democrats.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Just to keep him busy.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Maybe you go cocaine eyes. This's courtesy of Brian the Editor,
I feel the magic inside your cocaine as Anyways, Amazon
is doing this because for the same reason they did
the Millenia documentary. Apparently they were also talking about doing
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a Donald Trump documentary that never happened. But they just
keep making projects that are going to appeal to Trump's ego,
which is discouraging because it does feel like this is
the sort of thing that would take a couple of
years to make, and that they're apparently long on the
Trump administration. I was hoping that at some point they'd
(04:56):
be like, oh, this guy's going to like die or
be out of office, and then I a couple of years.
But uh, now they're they're still doing the elaborate bribes,
so we'll.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
See wild wild that we think that appealing to his
ego will help in any way former fashion, given that
everyone has already done that and we're in a war
with Iran, Like what at what point?
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Well, they don't mind. They're making it's making rich people richer,
so they're they're good with that. That is what I
say to the world in generally writ large, I do
a broadly gesture at everything and go all right. We
should talk about the Supreme Court dealing a death blow
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to the Voting Rights Act. The conservative justices of the
Court have taken taken all ability for people for the
Voting Rights Act to be like to have any for
they've just they've defanged it to death. It's essentially dead.
They said that lawmakers drawing maps in Louisiana to give
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minority populations representation can't do that. Essentially, the majority opinion
holds that racism is over in the United States when
it comes to elections, so.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
We no longer need the Vote in Rights Act, and
they've so this is basically like rolled back civil rights
like insanely, it's sickening. They've already like suspended the May
sixteenth primary election in Louisiana in order to disenfranchise black
votes that have already been put through. It's insane.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, they're like this is basically they're like, all right,
y'all can do whatever you want. It's just open season
for racist legislation, like do whatever you want, which, by
the way, is what they're legislating. Like that's one thing
that you know, people are pointing out is that like
by doing something based on their opinion on the state
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of society, like the Supreme Court is technically not supposed
to do that. And their whole argument is they've been
getting more and more conservative. Is like I just call
balls and strikes about the law and the legality. And
then in this opinion, they're like, as we can see
from the way that the world works today, racism is over,
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which like you're I don't know, but again, it just
feels like mask off, like they keep taking they keep
taking the masks off. There. It's like a Scooby Doo
double double twist ending.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
I read parts of both like the majority and minority opinion,
and I have a hypothetical question that we can cut
from the pot if we need to. When are we
allowed to incite violence? You're writing an essay on why
black people can't vote? Fuck you right? What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
This is like like taking to the streets, like what
is what do we do?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
What to do? This is from Kagan's descent. It was
born of the literal blood of Union soldiers and civil
rights marchers. It ushered in awe inspiring change, bringing this
nation closer to fulfilling the ideals of democracy and racial equity.
And it has been repeatedly and overwhelmingly reauthorized by the
people's representatives in Congress. Only they have the right to
(08:29):
say it is no longer needed, not the members of
this court. I dissent. Then from this latest chapter in
the majorities now completed demolition of the voting right SEC
so pretty pretty clear.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
She's it's so crazy to me. I was watching this
court or I don't know if he was a correspondent
or just someone I think on CNN who was expressing
his anger about this, and he still had to be
really measured. And it's so frustrating, Like I don't want
to on behalf of black people obviously, but like just
(09:04):
as an outside observer, seeing how much they've had to
fight for everything and they're at the forefront of every cause.
Only for them to be like left behind when even
the left is thinking about strategic moves is so disappointing.
And they have foreseen every like like terrible outcome of
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not organizing politically and just are consistently not listened to
and are treated as just like a voting block every
four years, right, or you know, it's so shitty, Brian says,
speaking for all black or for black people here, all
y'all suck. It's true, we fucking do like we are not.
There's not a black person on this pod right now
(09:46):
that Brian doesn't have a voice. Brian's that's right.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
We specifically cut as Mike, Yeah, I said, because he's yeah, Yeah,
it's incredibly frustrating. And they're using it immediately.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
They're using it immediately. They've already like slavery is already legal,
and it's already obviously disproportionately affecting black people in prison,
which is how they legalize it. And now I'm like,
are they just going to do it? Like we thought
they wouldn't drop Roe v.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Wade.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
We thought they wouldn't drop the voting rights, like they're
doing everything they can to profit off of other people,
especially black people, like black people in particular.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, so this is we were wondering, like, how how
does Trump get out of this spot that he's in
where he's facing a referendum and this is definitely going
to make it harder for Democrats to take over and
you know, hold him to account in Congress. The Supreme
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Court is it's not a it's not an accident that
I mean, it is an accident, But it is appropriate
that Supreme and white supremacy, you know, have the same
word in it because they have been a instrument for
white supremacy for years and years and even when they
(11:18):
do a little give us a little one they're like, Okay, well,
we'll make it so that Donald Trump can't actually call
himself the King of America and shoot someone in the
streets as he's requesting.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
That's less damage than what they've already done. They're killed.
They're killing black people like they're just killing black people now,
and they've been killing like everybody in the streets with ice.
Like anything that he says or does that's anecdotal or individual,
I think is obviously a distraction. We've stopped talking about
the Epstein Viles. What the fuck?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah? And Brian's question, what the fuck was Congress going
to do a whole lot as long as the opposition with.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Their monkey pod fingers but sucking Mitch McConnell, another monkey poffinger,
curls that he continues to live another day.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. He's still like he he started just having
like the rainbow wheel of death spinning years ago and
he's still out here breathing. And uh yeah, well all right,
let's let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll
(12:34):
talk about the Loveland frog Man, Ohio's submission for their
official cryptid status. We'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Interesting and we're back, and let's talk about cryptids. Let's
let's talk about let's talk.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
About maybe.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
So Ohio's state House is focusing on the important things.
Not a real state Ohio. One of the real estates
there is Ohio state of mind making the uh so,
they're trying to make the Loveland frog man the state's
official cryptid. First of all, I didn't realize states had
(13:24):
official cryptids, but apparently they're trying to make it a thing.
California is twenty twenty five AB six six six tried
and failed to make a Bigfoot their official cryptid.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Okay, I was like, what in the Mountain Lion naming
scheme is that I know?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I think I think it was named by edge lords
who are like, I'm into cryptids. That's kind of my thing.
But anyways, I just want to read directly from the
bill because I started it being like this is stupid
as fuck, and then by the end of this excerpt,
I was like, I think I'm on board. The legendary,
very and beloved amphibious creature known as the Loveland frog
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or Loveland frog man, first reported in the nineteen fifties
and said to inhabit the banks of the Little Miami
River near Loveland, Ohio, described as a frog like bipedal
creature standing approximately four feet tall, which has inspired books, documentaries,
local festivals, artwork, merchandise, local tourism, encrypted enthusiasts and researchers.
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God they love a fucking run on sentence, and has
contributed to the local economy, creative culture, and unique cultural
identity and oral history of this state is hereby adopted
as the official state cryptive woo.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Another fun fact about the Loveland frogman, he is the
first uncle of the WB frog.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Mm hmmm. Actually a lot of people don't know that.
There's a lot of nepotism going on.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Wikipedia's artistic rendering of the Loveland frog shows at scale
compared to humans, like.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
The little it's in the same pose with its arms out. Yeah,
it's just like separated.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
He kind of has the body posture of a dog
when the dog is taking a shit.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
You know, like software engineers. But that makes it seem
even worse when you put it right next to that.
So they're they're just kind of short little guys.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Not not so short. You would still be completely freaked
out by seeing them short for a man, Oh no,
I dap them up, terrifyingly big for a frog. But yeah,
he also looks surprised, perpetually surprised, with his hands out
in front.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Of him, imagining him in a suit. Also, I feel
like that's the size of a regular frog in Australia.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Right, there's just an Australian frog. It's not a frog.
This is a frog frog. This is the started originated
from the nineteen fifty five story of a traveling salesman
seeing figures standing on their hind legs, being about three
to four feet tall, having frog faces and leathery skin.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Guaranteed that traveling salesman just licked a frog and then
came up with this story.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
So we do have some explanation. A police officer spotted
the frogman again in nineteen seventy two. A couple weeks later,
another police officer spotted the frogman and shot it immediately.
Jesus turned out to be a pet iguana missing its tail.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
We're horrible. Why would you shoot a creature.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Like a It's a mysterious animal that makes me question
everything I know. Let me shoot it immediately.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
This is why the aliens know about us and they're
skipping our planet. There's no way. They're like, there's too
many guns.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
On this planet. It it's it is interesting to think
about it as just like a piece of culture though.
That's what I like about the bill. Yeah, they describe
it as like, you know, something that's inspired books, documentaries,
local festivals, artwork, merchandise, local tourism, encrypted enthusiasts and researchers,
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you know, the fun little thing. But it does somethow
turn into a thing. But they're all armed as they're
doing the research.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Militia.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
All right, let's get through some other news stories. Iran's
soccer team is being blocked from attending a World Cup event,
and Donald Trump recently suggested that FIFA should replace Iran
soccer team with Italy's for the World Cup, despite the
fact that Italy didn't qualify and Iran actually did qualify,
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but FIFA rejected that idea. But Canadian immigration officials in
Toronto just blocked the Iranian team from entering the country
for a FIFA congress meeting in Vancouver.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Riley Gaines is somewhere rooting for Italy. She's like, they
came in fifth and they should go to first.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Why as Donald Trump likes them and that's the only reason. Yeah,
so I don't know. Well, they're still figuring this one out.
Back to the world of cryptids. Open ai, did you
see the story about open ai and goblins? So? Open
ai recently posted the open sourcing for codex cli, open
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AI's most recent flagship coding agent. I don't really know
what most of that means, but it didn't take long
for some people to notice that it contained a prompt
for chat GPT five point five two quote never talk
about goblins, gremlins, raccoons, trolls, ogres, pigeons, or other animals
or creatures unless it is absolutely and unambiguously relevant to
(18:56):
the user's query. What yeah, why they just can't? So?
Oh that detail and your question why? He quickly went viral.
In response, OpenAI published a blog post explaining that when
they're GPT five point one launched in November, users complained
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about specific verbal tics, namely that it wouldn't shut the
fuck up about goblins, gremlins, and others. Gremlin references rose
by fifty two percent, not that bad well. Mentioning goblins
shot up one hundred and seventy five percent. Seems like
(19:41):
too many goblins. Some people are saying that this might
be on account of like they're being chat GPT being
inherently racist, and goblin is a coded antisemitic term, and
then raccoon obviously is a quoted anti black racist.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I thought it was just fun and quirky, and then
it's always racist, it always man.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
But the company is not acknowledged. The company is blaming
the trend on their personality customization feature, specifically the nerdy personality.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
They turn the silicon nerd all the way up and
the knob for racist turns all the way up simultaneous. Right, Wait,
what you're like, what is this going?
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The nerdy personality was encouraged to undercut pretension through playful
use of language because the world is complex and strange
and it's strangeness must be acknowledged, analyzed, and enjoyed. And
because of how reinforcement learning can work, they discovered that
the nerdy personality loves goblins, and that that transferred to
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other parts of its models.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
So whatever, I'm whatever, man, I'm it's it's all racist.
Brian wanted me to be happier for the second half,
and I'm going back to racism again.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, Brian pointed, this is the least favorite part of
AI as the personality, which truly like, we have a
little Amazon echo thing in our kitchen that I've tried
to remove multiple times, but my family's like, no, we like.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Oh, I thought you meant it. It just comes back
in mysteriously.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
I don't know. I think it's I think it's inhabited.
It's like broken into my children's brain. They're like, I
like being able.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
To grandpositive set a timer, set a timer.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, it is convenient for that. You'd be like when
you're cooking, you can be like set a fifteen minute
timer four oven, set a five minute timer for stove.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Set a five year timer for climate change to destroy
its all.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Sam Altman has been joking about it on Twitter, but
worth remembering this is the same guy who said that
chat GPT was an essential tool for looking after babies.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So also when you say, like these guys joke, they
they're not that they don't know how to do that.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
That's not I think that is the problem. Like the
word the worst part, the thing that most people can't
deal with, like they hate about these AIS, and that
is like causing them all of the problems is like
the personality, quirks the thing where it's like okay, what's up,
fuck face, Like you know, like has like that energy
(22:22):
like coming in like yeah, yeah, you think you're so
like that.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's just like or whatever keeps calling me face.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
It's like it's bringing in like a flirtation that everyone's
like kind of put off by or something. But some
people apparently like desperately need it. Yeah, and they like,
I think the fact that they don't have personalities of
their own or the ability to like interact with people
in a way that is human and humane and normal
(22:52):
like that that is the magic of the thing. They're like, well, yeah,
this thing, like did like it. All you have to
do is look at like Elon on the Joe Rogan Show,
like just playing jokes from his uh grock over and
over again and just like laughing his ass off. It's like, yeah, no,
this is this is what it. It's just there as
(23:14):
a thing to fill in where they have no no personality. Yes.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Also, I do want to say we Disney Channel original
movie Smart House predicted this decades ago and we should
have listened. Okay, there is a there is a downside
to technology where it we'll try to kidnap you and
your children and make you fall in love with it?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Is that what smart House does? No spoilers, Yeah, House
that like has its own personality, but the personality it
turns out person hood. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Yeah, it's terrifying and it's so true.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah. Wow, such a dumb future, Like of all the
movies that it could have been, it's like a Disney
Channel sci fi thing is the future that we ended
up with? That and then like every movie about dystopia. Yeah,
all right, we want to talk about the Donald Trump
crypto empire. It's another It's just it's like not going well.
(24:17):
His Like the day of the White House Correspondent dinner,
he had a gathering for top holders of his meme coin,
which is not doing well. It's down and I think
this is bad even in his percentages, where things can
be like up and down like six hundred percent, but
his meme coin is down ninety six percent since January
(24:38):
twenty twenty five, which that seems bad. Right.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
This is like logan Paul numbers, right or was it
justin Bieber who's n FT fell or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Yeah, yeah, he's putting up Bieber numbers, but not early
Bieber numbers. Late stage beiber.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Numbers cut late stage bieber fever, but he so.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Through a party on the day of the White House
Correspondent Dinner, complete with lunchtime speaker Mike Tyson, Mike, What's
what's happening?
Speaker 2 (25:08):
What is happening?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Please stop? Uh? Free trading cards and perfume for attendees.
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I have an explanation. There was a transfer of energy
during the the Jake Paul fight.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
And now they take body searching.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Jake Paul fight.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, guests were invited only if they won a convoluted
contest that involved gaining points by buying up Trump's coins,
holding and then holding onto them. Every hour that they
didn't sell gave them an additional point. So, yes, this
is like a very convoluted thing. I think we all
owe pyramid schemes and apology based on how stupid and
(25:56):
convoluted and little this makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Pyramids came are just like America's next top model. You
want to be on top. That's the only way you can.
You can make it.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Right, Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that might be only his second.
The one that's down ninety six percent might be his
second worst. Cryptogrift because he also has his family Cryptogrift,
which is World Liberty Financial that they launched together in
twenty twenty four, which is a crypto platform that advertises
itself as the alternative to woke banks. They're clearly just
(26:31):
for financial elites. Donald Trump doesn't even know what a like.
Baron had to teach him what a wallet is.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
So Baron is the regular wallet because this man only
holds gold bars.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That's right. Baron is also on there as like a
co founder, one of the founders of Liberty Bank.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
I'm still thinking about Edward Goldbar's hands.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
It's like, that's this critique of Edwards scissor hands.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Why is his hands not gold bars?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Scissors aren't worth shit? Should be Edward Goldbar's hands. Yeah,
it's a really it's a really good pitch. But one
of the company's only digital assets has lost fifty percent
of its value since January, and people are now suspicious
of like some loans that they've gotten from weirdly, like
(27:27):
from very friendly places, and like valuations and like it all.
It all just seems like even in the world of crypto,
people are like, oh, this seems this seems like bullshit.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
I actually do empathize with crypto because I've also lost
fifty percent of my value very short amount of times
since January.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I think we're all it's hill not unlike most of
our collective spirits dawn ninety six percent since January twenty
twenty five. Yep, But yeah, I don't know. It just
seems like a thing that is blatantly a rug pull
over and over again like that. That seems to be
what the entire business model of this is. They also,
(28:11):
I think a lot of their valuation was like came
from a five hundred million dollar infusion of cash from
cheap Tanun bin Zayed al Nyon, the brother and national
security advisor to the UAE.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
On my password, good.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Luck getting in assholes. Also good luck getting into you.
You can't remember whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
I know. I'm like, damn it, I'm late for TDZ.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
But he gave them five hundred million dollars four days
before the inauguration in twenty twenty five. So that's that's
the sort of thing we're dealing with on the crypto front.
It just feels like it's all a way to legalize corruption.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Are we the bodies?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Are we the bad guys?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Wait a second, always Brian the editor.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Says, business model, joint business plan, give me it at
exit strategy, smoke bomb.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
That's it's the we're living in the monorail episode of
the Simpsons.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, exactly, over over and over and over and over again,
my business plan. You're going to watch this episode of
the Simpsons. Uh, Paul, such a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
Having you, Jack O'Brien, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'm at Paula viganaland p A L l A v
I g U n A l A n come to
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Bring friends. It's gonna be really fun. It's in the
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(29:53):
the three producers. We also have mohannad El Sheky Heir
and Deal and a parnon On Charlat so amazing and
another guest spot too. So a couple more guest spots.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But you are at every minute that the show is
not sold out. You are taking a joke away.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, there's a stack of jokes on the table, and
I'm starting with Mahondz because he's the man.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Right, He's gonna just have to get out there. I'm
not saying anything funny if you guys don't heard silence too,
but yeah, amazing, Go do that show out, zeke Gang.
That's going to do it for this afternoon. We are
back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,
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get your vaccines where you still can get your flu shots,
don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk
to y'all tomorrow.
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By The Daily Zeit Guys is executive produced by Catherine Law,
co produced by Babe Wayne.
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Co produced by Victor Wright, co written by j M McNab,
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