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January 30, 2026 63 mins

In episode 1998, Jack and Miles are joined by audio producer and creator of The Secret Life of TK Dutes, TK Dutes, to discuss… Bari Weiss Fights CBS News Dumpster Fire With… More Flaming Garbage? Even The Fascism Kink Community Wants To Abolish ICE, Climate Change = Sea Monsters?? And more!

  1. Daily Zeitgeist: Our 2000th Episode is Here!!!...
  2. CBS News’ Bari Weiss unveils new strategy amid backlash, viewership lags
  3. CBS News chief Bari Weiss tells staff ‘we’re toast’ if they continue on current path
  4. Inside the Bari Weiss decision that led to a ‘60 Minutes’ crisis
  5. CBS shelves ‘60 Minutes’ story on Trump deportees at the last minute: ‘People are threatening to quit,’ staffers say
  6. ‘60 Minutes’ story shelved by Bari Weiss streamed in Canada — and instantly spread across the web
  7. CBS finally airs 60 Minutes segment on Venezuelan prisoners sent to Cecot in El Salvador
  8. Bari Weiss Urges CBS News to Think Like a ‘Start-Up’
  9. He Built a Wellness Empire While Adventuring With Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
  10. Functional Medicine Is a Pipeline to Alt Med
  11. Niall Ferguson quits Stanford free speech role over leaked emails
  12. Israel—and America—Have No Choice but to Act
  13. Niall Ferguson: The ‘Barbenheimer’ Election
  14. After rocky start, Bari Weiss plans cuts, adds commentators at CBS News
  15. Trump's National Security Advisor challenged over human rights record
  16. Redditors Are Mounting a Resistance Against ICE
  17. Fascist Kink Roleplay Subreddit Draws the Line: No More ICE Porn
  18. Conspiracy theorists think a “Leviathan” is waking up…and the snow is part of the cover-up
  19. Monster Winter Storm Awakens ‘The Leviathan’ On Social Media
  20. TikTok conspiracy theory blames an ancient sea serpent for Hurricane Beryl
  21. Video of Google Earth 'Sea Monster' Is Obvious Hoax
  22. Was the Loch Ness Monster Inspired by Earthquakes?
  23. The myth of monsters: Why dragons have historically represented in many cultures the power of nature
  24. Jaws vs. Leviathan

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I need to go to Turkey for some medical tourism.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Yeah, oh, you're about to be on that plane with
the hair plug. Dude.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I say this all the time, like I'm waiting for them.
I'm waiting every I'm always getting Google alerts. My stepmother
always sends me baldness like updates and ship like that.
The best one I saw was there's like a Chinese
lab experiment. This is so crazy, where there were these
mice that they got the fur to grow back just
out of nowhere, and they're like, yeah, this is the

(00:34):
closest we've ever seen to something that wasn't an implant.
And I'm like, I'm ready, ready.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Now do I suffer from male pattern baldness?

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Jack?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's not relevant. What I did see was there was
a mac There was a mouse with a bunch of
hair missing on its back, and then in the after
photo a bunch.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Of hair who.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
Saved them for that?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Yeah? Oh I can't wait, man, man, I could I
could shave a part back into my forehead like right here.
He's like like it was fucking ninety two. Ship.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
The hair the hair plane in Turkey is the for men,
is like the women thing for like you know, like
the butt implants, you know, the Brazilian Brazil.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
So yeah, so what's Turkey?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
What's Turky? What's the Turkey for for the BBL? Like,
what's that location the hair?

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know the location in Turkey, I just know.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
But oh they're also going to Turkey for the BBL.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
No, I was just saying the whole like that journey.
Oh yeah, yeah, the men have the Turkey.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Uh yeah, the Turkeys.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
And do you want to go to Brazil?

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, or the Dominican Republic or something?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, Dominican. Yeah, the Dominican, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, everyone on the plane.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
You're popping, you go to doctor Miami.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, you go to Miami.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
If you're popping, yes, doctor Miami before your surgery, as
a two chain said it.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
And if you're not popping, you just go see a
lady with a silicon pump.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
Yeah exactly, and fix a flat Yeah, and hope you
don't get necrotizing fascy eyed yeah yeah, or the stink
that they ever want.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
That's the worst thing. Take care of yourselves, guys, please yourself.
Please spent way too little money on that to be
spent way too little money on that, to be careless
with your after care.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
The hair plugs starts stinking.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Oh, you probably look like how what's his face? The
guy from Tobias looked like in arrested development when it
killing him. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:33):
Yeah, yeah, they would just invent another product because men
would still buy it. Would be like scalp deodorant or something. Yeah,
just keep your pushing.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah. They call him stink plugs. Yeah, because you can
plug up the stink from your.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Gotta get that hair from somewhere, you know, somewhere exactly,
coming from some stinky parts. Hello the Internet, and welcome
the season four to twenty three, Episode five of dir.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Daily's Night Guys.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
It was a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where
we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through
the day's news. We also have a new weekly history
version of the show dropping each Monday morning, where we
take a deep dive into the history of a different icon,
anything from Elvis to Santa. We just did Elvis with
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(03:31):
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it is Friday, January thirtieth, twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
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Speaker 3 (03:46):
Okay, so if you just want to wig out, go ahead.
It's also of our upcoming icon Dolly.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
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Day or cross as Sant Day. I yeah, yeah, Like
I like a really flaky croissant, anything that's made with
like a criminal amount of butter. Yeah, okay, good, I'll.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Like to get fifty of them at Costco.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
Just eat them exactly yeah for.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
That authentic switch.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah oh love, oh yeah. And also Portillo's the roast
beef and cheddar on a croissant. Okay, okay.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm
thrilled to be joined as always buy my co host,
mister Miles Grass.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's Miles Gray a K one two three cops eat
donuts at two sharply ee come to break a lot
of you should stop don't keep donuts from the cops
while Okay, shout out to Starfila for that one. Love
a black Star reference for all my Washed Raucus Records
fans out there. I was just trying to I think
I was just telling producer Justin, I'm like, you don't

(04:59):
remember Reflection Eternal, the taalip Quali album that he did
with High Tech, and yes, I'm washed, but again, that
motherfucking album is a classic. So thank you Snarfila for
that one. And yeah, thank you for that one.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Helped me feel was that in reference to something we
were talking about. Do cops eat donuts?

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yesterday? Yesterday? I feel like with mo something came up
about the cops needing donuts and that's an evergreen topic,
you know, Yeah, yeah they do.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, got to keep them doughnutted, donutted up, those cops up.
Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by an award winning audio producer and storyteller know for
her work on shows like BuzzFeed's Thursda aid Kit Good
Words with Kirk Franklin. Her new podcast is a blend
of memoir, reportage, and sound art called The Secret Life

(05:49):
of TK Dutes, which makes sense because she is Tkdute.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
You're you're Have you seen there's a clip recently of
a white comedian doing crowd work and with like a
black audience, and they started doing they were urine and
he goes, guys, look at me. You know, I've never
heard that sound in my life, and I'm not sure
what to do, so it was probably scared. He was

(06:18):
kind of like, I'm going to be real, I've never
heard that before. I don't know how everybody knew how
to you're at the same time region, Yeah, how are you?

Speaker 5 (06:29):
TK, I'm good, I'm happy to be here. I'm ready
to like do whatever this is.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, that's that's a great way of saying we're still
not sure. That's about it as specific as we could get.
We have our two thousands episode coming up, and we're
still calling it.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Whatever whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, I love it, whatever
you want to call that.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
We don't like to put label labels on it.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
TK, you know, yeah, I feels restrictive.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Podcast boys put labels on it.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Now, I know what this is.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah yeah, yeah, Actually that defines it pretty specifically for all.
Thank you soon.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Speaking of the two thousand episode listeners, go ahead and
check out the Google form. There's a link to it
in the footnotes. It's on the discord check our bios
you can. We would love to hear from you. What
is your favorite memory from the first two thousand episodes
and go ahead, predict what your favorite memory will be
for the next two thousand episodes. Put on your soothsayer
cap and tell us predict something. Also, please sign your

(07:27):
name to it if you would like your memory, you
want to hopperly attribute it because some people have left
it out. If you want to come back repost your
shit with your name, please do so because it'll help us,
because we don't want to just read your Gmail address
and docks you or something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Whatever, Yeah, we'll just have to read your coordinates, geo
locate you.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Or we'll just yeah, buy ip address whatever you want.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
All right, TK thrilled to have you here. We're gonna
get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're
talking about. Uh, we're gonna talk about the new plan
at CBS News. They've they've recognized that things have not
been going very well so far in the new conservative
relaunch of CBS News, and Barry Weiss has come through

(08:12):
with her her plan to salvage the dumpster fire. And man,
it's it's about what you would expect. But like the
the there are levels to this ship that I did
not know about in terms of like some of the
people they're bringing on. Yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll
talk about the fact that even the fascism kink community

(08:36):
has decided to abolish ICE subreddit are fucking fascists. There's
a subreddit for people who are sexually attracted to fascism,
but like not actual fascists themselves. Rule number one, role
play it's about making porn or making fun of authoritarians.

(08:58):
Real fascist, sexist, home phobes, transphobes and other bigots are
not welcome here. So we're gonna get a look at
Apparently there had been people who were getting horny for
ICE role play, and they have an institute of a
new rule on that. And then we're gonna talk, of
course about the real breaking news, the role of sea
monsters in the climate events that we've been seeing. A

(09:22):
lot of people aren't up on this, if you haven't
just been, if you are not an Internet poisoned lunatic,
but our writer Jam went and took a dive into
the world of sea monster conspiracy theories, all of that
plenty more. But first TK we do like to ask
our guests what is something from your search history that

(09:44):
is revealing about who you are?

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Yeah, okay, I thought about this, and then I was like,
why am I thinking about this? I've been on miniaturists
TikTok lately. Oh tiny things, yeah, just any kind of
tiny things, don't.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
House it is like yo.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
So then I've been on miniatures TikTok, watching people make dollhouses,
little scenes and sides of buildings and going to I
found a miniatureist like a like a market, yo, Like
in Mexico City, there's a market for everything, so if
you can think it, there's a mercado for it. And
I found the miniatures market. So like doll parts, like

(10:23):
you could get just feet.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
You just want to go.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Actually I've been looking for something like that.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Same search history. Yeah, Dolph, I know you're good people.
Embodies nowhere to go, man, I got doll feat Nobody
looking at doll yeah yeah, yo, are we're looking at
the cutest little Nike shoe box?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
What are the Oh? Those are those are like these
yeasy boosts like early Yezy three fifties.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Yes, so some like you know, legit looking, you know,
but I want to I want to put these on
the doll that I modeled after my.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Friend and he wears sneakers like this. So I got
a whole new hobby coming up.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
So yeah, yeah, hobby loading now, tiny people and tiny things.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
I saw just from like looking at some of your
social media posts like you, I saw something you doing
like an upholstery class and you trying to get like
work with your hands. Does this all kind of fit
into sort of like your this is how I come
back burnout? Let me get into craft kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
Yeah, absolutely, because I figured out, yo, well, if you're
not you know, everything converges into the laptop for a
lot of us, right, yeah, And a lot of the
crazy stuff that was happening was coming through the laptop.
And at the time of like when it really hit
for me was around COVID. So we were in the
house with the laptop, which is the thing that's like on.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Your window to hell, your window to hell, and then
in front of this window to hell for eight You
should be all right, I should be all right after this.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
Yeah, I figure if you do something with your hands,
you can't touch the laptop. So I forced myself to
like get my hands dirty doing projects. Then I wouldn't
touch my phone in my laptop.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Oh that's good. That's a good call.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Fore I've done the opposite and I've changed it so
I can be at my laptop while mimicking the act
of walking outdoors. I have a treadmill at my Laptop's
I need to always be at my laptop and I
feel like I'm in hell when I'm doing it. But

(12:31):
it does get the blood pumping, you know. Yeah, that's
what What is your ultimate?

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Like?

Speaker 3 (12:37):
When you're thinking about miniatures, are you are you picturing
like building out a whole scene? Is it just the
individual dolls? What excites you about miniatures? Because I do
find them intriguing.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Yeah, I think I think it's an extension of me
trying to I think we're millennials.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
I mean, I want to ask you all business.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
But no, no, I'm forty one. Yeah, so where we are?

Speaker 5 (13:01):
So we're the Sims generation, yo, Like I've been playing
the Sims and uh and I wanted to take the
Sims out of and into real life. So like I
knew it was like destiny because last year on my birthday,
I was on a Facebook marketplace where I'd be at
a lot and this lady was like, does anybody want
a dollhouse if you come get it right now. And

(13:23):
it was like on my birthday and I was like,
well then I think I got a free dollhouse for
my birthday.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
The universe giving you a birthday present.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
So now I have to do the hobby.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
So I'm gonna like redo the dollhouse and put myself
and my people in it. And when I'm like manifest wealth,
like I got like a tiny stack of cash from
the Marcato.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Like let me show you real quick, dog, Like is
your doll going to be on the money phone?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
It can?

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh wow? Okay? Who it was like a Martin bottle
or something.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yeah, and I gotta you know, you gotta have a pet.
Got a little cat here?

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Okay ooh and then I dropped it all.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
But you manifested what is something you think is underrated?
Saying no, yeah, no.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yes, it's underrated because people act like they want to
do stuff, like like they're like, let's go to a thing,
and they like you you feel cornered a little bit,
And I'm like, why do you feel cornered?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
You could just say.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
No, right and if you don't want to do it,
like yo. I always say, if it's not a hell, yeah,
it's a no. Like if I don't feel it in
my spirit, if it doesn't light my whole my ass
on fire, then then I don't want to do it.
And I mean and that also comes from learning the
hard lesson right, because if you do stuff that you
don't want to do, if you go to a job

(14:41):
that you hate, or if you, you know, go help
your friend move when you didn't want to, then you
feel like a reseptful sucker. That was like, you know,
you don't want to be carrying your friend's belongings into
their home and drop it hard because you really don't
want to be there.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
You know, you just dropped it.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Wow, all right, No, I really want this to go.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
How about here?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not a hell yet. No, I'm
I'm like, I'm definitely I'm a people pleaser. So I've
definitely had had a lot of half assed yes is.
But once I really started going to therapy, I knocked
that ship off fully because then I was like, right, right, right,
Actually articulate your needs. That's the big thing. If you

(15:26):
can't be out out in front with your needs, like
in telling people describing them, then yeah, you're gonna end
up doing a lot of ship where you're there, Like,
because man, there's so many times I've gone to things
and like, what's wrong, You're not having fun? I'm like, no,
my god, I shouldn't have even come. Actually, what the
fuck am I doing here?

Speaker 3 (15:41):
I free tell them this very dangerous advice for me,
because everything for me is.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
A hell no.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
And then I have to make myself do things, and
when I do them, I'm usually happy. So this is
my question to you. I'm very bad at seeing how
things are gonna actually, like my predictions are very pessimistic
and bad always, So I just have to sometimes make
myself do stuff and usually I'm happy that I did it.

(16:11):
For you, is your internal hell yeah pretty accurate? Like
you You're like, when I have a hell yeah in
my heart, that's actually gonna end up being fun. And
when it's not a hell yeah, it's actually something that
I'm gonna regret doing, it's.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Yes, it's pretty accurate because I can, like you know,
you could just see like.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Who else is going to be there?

Speaker 5 (16:32):
Like yeah, you know, and like the energy and and
like sometimes it's like a combination like the activity and
who's I'm not going I'm not doing it. But like
if it's like the balance of well, I think I
might like white water rafting, but I might not like
it with these two people over here, I'm gonna pick.
I'm gonna be like yes because I've never been white

(16:54):
water rafting, and then then I'm gonna be like, well, experience,
and then I'll just stay away from those people.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I try to balance it.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
That's great, that's admirable. This is probably the number one
challenge in my life is like what to say yes
and no too, And like I will often just like
go to my wife and be like this is I
don't I shouldn't go to this, right, Like I don't
need to go to this this right Mom, Mom.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I don't like I don't like art classes, right mom? No, baby,
you don't, you don't. You don't pick the activity Jack.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
It's just the Yeah, social anxiety has fucked up my
hell yet hell no detector and so everything is like,
well I don't I'm gonna feel terrible about myself the
whole time. Fun So yeah, then it ends up sometimes
being worth it. So it's it's it's a it's a
mess out there there you go, what is something that
you think is overrated?

Speaker 5 (17:48):
All right, here we go. Now it's my time to
shine journaling, journaling, journaling? What am I going to tell
myself that I already don't I like already know, like
I know it's all up here, babe. And then what
how do you title that? Like you start that shit?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
You know? So back in the day, we had Dear Diary.
I'm in my forties right, this.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Girl is like on TikTok and she was reading her
journals from her teenage years and she's like, dear Daddy God.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
I was like, hell not, like I'm good. I was like,
what am I going to tell myself? I don't already know?
I'm the shit.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
And I'm like, oh, sometimes I'm having a terrible day.
Oh drink, like what.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Get very terrible advice for me? Yeah, very dangerous advice
for me.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
But that's funny. I mean, like it's I know people
who are into it because they say like it helps
them like really process their day and things like that,
and I to me, I'm I look at it the
same way. I'm like, I don't know. I was there,
Yeah that day, I remember the one thing I've seen
that was interesting was like my mother in law kept
a journal for the first year of my wife's life,

(18:55):
and when we were about to have our kids, she's like,
I want you to check this out. And I was
like a really nice thing of like kind of seeing
like the evolution from the perspective of them. But then
there's some wowd chit and it's like I'm fucking up
bad okay, fair, fair, transparent and we like that and
we like that. But yeah, I feel like for posterity,

(19:16):
I get it, but I'm not a journal person.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
It'd be better if she she just didn't mention her
once in the journal. Yeah, that's just what I was
going through. Is really Beg's album at the time, right.

Speaker 5 (19:27):
Right, if with a reason, I'm down, but like this's
usually not a reason. Like a therapist would be like
journal your feelings and I'm like I'm feeling them.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Son a shit sucks.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I remember I'm here right now telling you in it.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm in it.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
I think having like if you're gonna do like writing
work for self improvement, it helps like have direction and
you know, like questions you're answering rather than just putting
your thoughts down broadly, because like yeah, I feel like
I because I have like done uh in college, I

(20:05):
had this writing class where they made you do the
Artist's Way.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
Do you guys know what that is?

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Oh my god?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, where you have to write three pages free hand
every morning first thing getting out of it. And he
would just make us turn the pages in and he'd
be like, I'm not going to read them. I don't
know if that's true or not, but oh so.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
You're just doing like straight up stream of consciousness three pages.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
And the idea is that like it'll get you like
just moving creatively. And I think it was like made
for people who are creatively stuck. And but it was
just like he was like, I've taught this class to
a bunch of people. They always end up creatively stuck.
These are some tools that seem to be helpful for them.
And it was useful at that time, but then like

(20:49):
years later I picked it back up and I was like, yeah,
none of this is like like all I remember the
good ideas I have, you know, like those stick with me,
and like so all of that is just like waw right,
not not that much going on there.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, I mean, I.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Guess the first thing in the morning, I.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Get the thing of like turning the ideas piggot on
because you want to get as many of the bunk
ideas out before maybe like the good ones come out,
because I think a lot of people don't even turn
this pigot on for fear of that the first ideas
that come out will be bad. And it's like no, no, no,
you just got because there's something in there, but you
got to get everything else out of the pipe first.
But yeah, I mean, like I just an interview with

(21:30):
styles P from the Locks. I think he's only seven
PM of Brooklyn the Kid Mary Omellow Show, and he's like,
when I have a mental block, I watch insect fight videos. Yep.
He's like, I'm not on this other thing. He's like,
I need to see something different, like just to break
me out. And then he started Rattling's like have you
seen the hornets versus the fucking Beast? It's like crazy,

(21:51):
but hey, everyone has a different method.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Yeah, they're not all winners. I've seen my notesap Oh yeah,
the notes app.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
That's where all of it goes to die.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, And it.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Looks so many things that like bummed me out to
where I like, you know how you be like, oh,
I got to write this one down, and then you
go back like you forget about You go back like
six months later you're like, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (22:18):
What did that even mean?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Right now?

Speaker 3 (22:21):
No, we're gonna have the context for that. Oh yeah, yeah,
all right, well some great underrated overrateds TK. We're gonna
take a quick break. We're gonna come back and we're
gonna talk.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
About the news.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
We'll be right back, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
We're back.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
And how am I pronouncing her name? Barrie Weiss?

Speaker 1 (22:51):
Bear? I don't know what I've said. It's spelled in
a way where you go, oh, you're trying to be
cute with that. It sounds like you're spelling it like
you don't want me to say Barry, Right. I guess
that's how I yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'll just go
to Bari Barry, look, Barry whatever. Miss Weiss, the destroyer

(23:13):
of CBS News.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah, so she took over CBS News after having had
a unsuccessful blog. Those subsidized by billionaire right wing philanthropists.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
Don't forget her. University too, to.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
College that doesn't teach people, and then how to get
more calcified in their bullshit beliefs. So she's taking over
CBS News. We've talked about how the CBS Evening News
with dopely.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The man who came at
Tin of Hissy Coats in that Internet.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Man who came to ton of Coats and they were like,
this guy should be the new Walter Kronkite.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Right, that's all you need to know.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
And he came through and was like, Walter Cronkite, ain't
got shipped on me? Yeah, man and uh and then
proceeded to like his very first broadcast, like almost burst
into tears because he fucked it up so bad. He
was like, are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Who are we talking about?

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Things are going well, things are going well. First day, not.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Good first day at this show that's been on for decades. Yeah,
you're like, I think they I think Loki. They hate
you in the country, they fucking hate you. Let's be
let's be real, Tony.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
But anyways, she's prepared to change things up and fight
fire with more flaming garbage. She just had an all
hands call with the staffers and laid out a bold
new plan for saving the newly Magalining network if they
stick to their current strategy, their toast. She also said
that GBS News isn't producing a product that enough people

(24:52):
want and not enough people trust us. Seems like a problem.
I'm with her so far. Yeah, okay you And she
said clearly the real problem here is streaming. Said that
the way they need to shift to a streaming mentality
is going to save them because that's where the audience is.

(25:13):
Which is wild that she's just coming to this realization
at a time when like this was this was the
meeting that when I worked at ABC News in two
thousand and two, two thousand and three, this was the
conversation that they people were having.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
What we need to we need to break out.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
People are on the internet, we need to go there.
People are watching less ship Like we need to be.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
Prepared that the old people of CB, you know, the
CBS watchers right would like live like vampires.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
They'll stay like seventy five forever.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
And I'm like, well, they're like they're supposed to be
We're supposed to graduate into them, but we're not graduating
into them because we value journalism.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
What yeah, we witness the change, Like I don't want that.
She's like, the problem is it's wild that you're saying,
the problem is we've changed for the worse. Yeah, that's
going to affect things. So if we're doing.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
That and nobody trusts us, and the way that we
get past that is uh streaming. Which I will say
she shouldn't be too hard on herself because the sixty
minutes minute segment that she banned, she censored because it
lacked the Trump administration's argument on the prisons they were

(26:30):
deporting people to that were you know, where people were
being in our Chalvador, Yeah, yeah, and our Salvador. That
that actually did really well on streaming after it was
accidentally uploaded by a Canadian broadcaster. Yeah, that one.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Didn't really know about it until like I hit TikTok
and I was like, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Look at us, which is wild that they go. This
thing that we were suppressing that was news did really well.
And it's because of streaming, yes, not because you're reporting
fucking atrocities at Seacott. It's the one thing that where
a brief bit of reporting like squeaked through your no

(27:09):
news censors did well.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
And she's like, street dude, shit's talking on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Actually fuck on this other shit. It's really fucking it's
so that whole meeting was really stupid too, because she
also at that meeting told staffers at the CBS Evening News, quote,
you've been offered a quote extraordinary chance to leave.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
She was saying.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
She was trying to fucking present this like severance, like, hey,
if you don't like it, you can get out of here,
but will also give you more. Apparently that the severance
package was quote an enhancement over what would normally get
a journalist would get as part of Paramount's standard severance
plan for employees, and just really just said, hey, this,
this extraordinary chance is available to anyone if you want

(27:55):
to leave too. So that's also.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Exciting new opportunities and not being here, right. Yeah, So
she's also doing like, it's just classic corporate media bullshit.
We want CBS News to be like a media startup,
is her thing about the oldest Oh, a brand that's
been around since the nineteen twins.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Oh, are you gonna embrace like a diverse set of
opinions and actually report from multiple perspectives? Is that? Is
that what we mean by that?

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Yeah, we are.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
A new set of opinions to you, not to me.
They're bringing on eighteen new commentators like along basically like
Fox News, they're just trying to be Fox News and
will be cutting staff that doesn't a lot where whose
beliefs don't align with her vision. And some of these
new hires, man I did not know about these these guys.

(28:49):
They include Nile Ferguson, Patrick McGhee, doctor Mark Hymen, the
latter being the wellness guru who's good friends with RFK
Junior has claimed that he has pro vaccine safety.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
But word, you know what else he is for being
a doctor. He is a germ theory skeptic. Also, you
gotta he doesn't believe in germ theory.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
He doesn't wash okay, yeah, yeah, hurt.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
And doesn't believe in germ theory. I mean that is
a thing you can only be in this era where
like a doctor actually driven. Yeah, where it's just like, what,
what's the most provocative thing that I could say that
it's gonna get people's eyeballs on this with complete disregard
for the truth.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, I'm sorry. Theory denialist is actually how he's been.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
He moved through the skeptic phase when he saw when
he saw the numbers that his germ theory skeptic videos.
Did he moved right into germ theory denialism.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yep, it's like that's not enough.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, exactly, I gotta I gotta go harder at this
germ theory.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Yeah, this thing that I actually changed medicine for the better. Actually,
I think it's good to have all these germs inside you,
uh and in unsanitary ways.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
Yeah, I mean it is the main thing that it
helped was women and childbirth. That was like one of
the first things that it was. People were like, I
guess we shouldn't walk right from shoveling horseshit into performing
childbirth and c sections.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
And suddenly everybody stopped, you know, one in two and
stopped dying in childbirth. I mean, so I could I
could see how somebody in this with this worldview would
be skeptical that idea.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
Everything he says for is like I don't care if
people die prematurely. It's like you don't because his vaccine
skepticism is just like you know, he was writing the
preface for an RFK book like where he was just
talking about vaccines, like this guy is just just one
of these people. Was like, I don't know, I think
suffering's cool or something. Maybe I don't know that book.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
That's makes you stronger?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Right, he's perfects actually right?

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, And what exactly they want to do?
They want to have someone who has the title doctor
to go on there and maybe who's someone who's watching
on critically goes, well, this doctor said that actually measles
is tight.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah yeah, so I mean we should have seen it
coming because yeah, doctor Phil the other doctor oz yeah yeah, doctor.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Phil is my personal physician, so I can't talk too
much ship.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
But oh patient doctor confident, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Exactly, that's why anxiety.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
So yeah, so hot.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
He's got a lot of interesting things to say about
the he's your physician journal entries that I sent him.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
Yeah, hold on, Jack, now hold on. You didn't want
to go to this birthday party? Why not? Uh?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
I didn't think i'd know what to do with my hands,
Doctor Phil, Well, I stood stood in the corner.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Jesus all right.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Nile Ferguson though this guy eluded me.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
So.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
He's a conservative British historian and political commentator who made
headlines in twenty eighteen when he had to resign from
a Stanford University free speech program, after leaked emails exposed
his plot to get Republican students to conduct opposition research
on a left leaning student the fucking oppo for.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
And then what right? Like were they going to adopt them?

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Like?

Speaker 2 (32:22):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Well, his emails the it's really the tone, it's really
in the tone of these emails. They're just like laughably
like movie villain coded. He at one point instructed his bingings,
now we turn to the more subtle game of grinding
them down on the committee. The price of liberty is
eternal vigilance, asking them to unite against the social justice

(32:46):
warriors and urging them to bury whatever past differences they
may have for the common good. And now he turned
to the more subtle game of grinding them and now
his uh. The student he was talking to was, by
the way, the son of Susan Rice, a former national
security advisor to Barack Obama. He was the president of

(33:09):
Stanford College Republicans at the time. And he responded to
that email saying, slowly, we will continue to crush the
left's will to resist as they will crack under pressure.
What interest, yes, master, yes, master.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
Indeed we wish that it's like this is the son
of the national security person from Barack Obama's.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Signed Yeah hear that person was included on an email
like this. This professor was also emailing John Rice Cameron,
who's her son. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Rice Cameron's response was slowly, we will continue to crush
the left's will to resist.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Oh that's why I don't have kids, because you don't
know how they're gonna come out just acting like.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Any national security I'm just saying, like, I don't even
if it's under Obama, I feel national security. You might
be like, we treat people well, but if you're for
a living like ordering drone targeting of wedding parties, then maybe.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
It might be a little gray area on and who's
not for sure. Also, that Stanford free speech program is
the most frightening collection of words I've ever heard, because
you know, that's the Silicon Valley, all like Autocrat.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
Stanford is captured. Stanford's being captured.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
They're cranking out the hits man. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
But more recently he's been writing for the Free Press,
Barry Weiss's Free Press, debuting with a genocidal rant that
urged the Biden administration to invade Gaza. He also offered
political insights like comparing the twenty twenty four election to Barbenheimer.
So he's like a serious thinker that is going to
save CBS News.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Wait what that it's a Barbenheimer the Barbenheimer election, while
Kamala Harris runs a campaign of unsurpassed vacuousness. On the
other screen, we have the dark fist energy of Donald
Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Okay, Bynile figures, get out of here.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Anyways, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Man. I mean, look, I think Barry, you've got to
you've you're you've half died. You've diagnosed the problem, but
have completely arrived at the most incorrect conclusion possible, which.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Nobody trusts us, and therefore we need to double down
on streaming by putting her most untrustworthy voices everywhere on
our planform. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Well again, she wasn't put in there to be effective
in terms of making CBS a new, like a good thing.
She was just there to like completely muddy the waters
in terms of what people are ingesting what they call
quote unquote news and having the name like CBS it helps.
It helps.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Just generally, it seems like their problem might be the
unpopularity of their message because uh, okay, they're eating shit
as when they tried to put it on like a
major news network, on a major just like one of
the major networks, nobody wants to watch that shit. And
then in a more slightly more niche community, even the

(36:11):
fascism kink community is not a fan. Yes, the r
fucking Fascist subreddit has announced that they will no longer
allow content or role play featuring Ice, leaving users stunned
that Ice is even too evil for the fascist kink community.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Wow, yeah, it's It's even on the subreddit drama page
because the moderator contends with the reality that their kink
sub might be problematic. Oh really, really, this is the
post and this is interesting, said this from one of
the motteries. Hello everyone, this is Brandy back again for
some reflection. This post isn't coming from me in any
in my capacity as moderator, but as a user, and

(36:51):
doesn't reflect any official stance of the mad team, but
merely my own. I've been stewing lately, in the aftermath
of the shooting of Renee Good and now of Alex Pretty,
I've been acutely aware of beyond troubling trends here in
this subreddit. First, when you put the community on pause
after receiving a wave of input from users that we
ought to update our policies. The amount of hostility that
I and the moderates received for merely trying to respect

(37:11):
the wishes of you, our users, was appalling. And these
go on apparently this was like a whole back and forth.
That's just a weird I mean, what, like already, that's
such an odd kink to have when you're like, I
want you to dress up like Heinrich Himmler and just
blow my back out right now, Like what, don't.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Be that way in real life?

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly what's your fantasy to be fucked?
Just oh my god, just crazy every which way by Heinrich.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Himmler, Like I want my legs shaking of that. I
need you to wear this SSRM band.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:48):
This community is kind of wild because like, like, okay,
we're grown ups. I've been in some areas where it's like, yo,
you know, radical consent, right, Like yeah, we're not. There's
no and there's no bullshit here. You know, everybody's welcome,
all bodies are good bodies.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
We love that. And then you go on like the
message boards.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
Because I'm not going to those other parties in real life,
and they're like, yeah, like exactly what you said. It's
like weird, race play, crazy, like medical fat shit. Like
so it's like, is this them meeting in the middle, Like, Hey,
I want to be weird, but like you can't really
be weird.

Speaker 3 (38:25):
Yeah, And I's think there's you know some people who
have like shit tied, you know, sexual shit tied to
like taboos, and like yeah, maybe this is the ultimate
taboo for them, for white people.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Yeah, yeah, Like.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, what's interesting.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
It seems like the timing is not good and the
fact that some of them are like immediately moving to
wanting to fuck Ice agents might reflect poor league on
your community because they banned it.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, well so they're happenings that this is They go
on quote if the community is tip past the point
of catering to liberals exclusively to primarily right wingers, Nazis
and Nazi apologists right wingers, then it's got to fucking go.
If any of this post is upset or scared you
their eater, you're probably part of the problem. For the
rest of you who are actual liberals just trying to
express your fantasies safely. I apologize. I don't mean to

(39:18):
deprive anyone of a safe space, but to give you
the behind the scenes perspective, this place isn't safe. I
honestly think if you get any modicum of pleasure of
like this fucking thing, there's something you gotta zoom out
of a little bit this time to figure something out, examined.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
How way to make yourself a victim because like yo,
like like you said, like the zoom out it's a
microcosm of the world we live in, which is like
very white and very privileged and very like all the
things that you know, this is, this is they're representing
it like this, we need to have the safe spaces
we need to like protect our fetish Reddit.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, like I knew we got we have a place
for liberals to explore this problematic kink. I think it's
like it also revealing that it's like this is for liberals.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
To like explore a safe place, but like, yeah, they're
surprised when it's overrun by actual Nazis.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
Well yeah, and well I can help you out with that.
It lacks that awareness, right that I think is endemic
of like what the problem is a lot of like
liberal white voters, Like I see this all the time
with people going it's like Nazi Germany. No, it's like
Jim Crow. It's like Jim Crow.

Speaker 7 (40:37):
Actually like American history, well no, but I mean, like
to the point where it's like the like the you know,
the the Nazi we talked about the Nazis were studying
Jim Crow, Jim Crow laws to be like, Okay, this
is how you fucking subjugate people and create second class
citizens and keep them out of your society.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
You are learned from Henry Ford, right, car guy, Like
how racist do you have to be to be a
car guy? That's more racist than the guy that's.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Like, yeah, who's putting up?

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Ford had a picture of Hitler next to his desk.
Hitler had a picture of Henry Ford death.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
Like that's but I think like even just our our
the American American culture's inability to say Jim Crow and
everyone go, God, that was so fucked up, see, because
it doesn't have the same weight, because we're still in
this place where the atrocities committed to black people, especially
just it doesn't occupy the same part of the brain.

(41:35):
You have to you have to go to Nazi Germany
where they go, oh, white people, right, that was wild.
That was wild. I can wrap my head around that.
I can't get. I can't experience the requisite outrage to
look at something that was so specific to our history
and be like that can never happen. I think that's
the thing that I'm really worried about our inability to
really move forward because we still have this huge blind

(41:57):
spot to our own history and be able to reckon
with that. So I don't know, it's like hard to
be like and we're going to solve it now because X,
Y and Z and like I've.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Been struggling, Like I feel like we're we as a nation,
not us on this Google, but like where we where
we kind of slipped up as a nationism you know
when they were showing when you go to the museums
and your pictures of like the Little Rock nine going
into the school and these like you know, white women
and like old grown up people spitting at children, and

(42:31):
I'm like, they're still alive probably or something like there's
no like you didn't.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Know people who lynch alive are still.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
Alive and they're just like chilling. Like that's the blind spot, right, Like,
and we let that shit go, and we let that
shit go, and here.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
We are now motherfuckers are taking your neighbors away.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Yeah, and now you have a subreddit being like, damn,
is it fucked up for us to dress as overseers
and having sex?

Speaker 2 (43:00):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (43:01):
What the fuck? Yeah, what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Yes, it was it was interesting. We were talking about
how the Troup administrations planned to like bring ice to
the Winter Olympics in Italy. Yeah, and they we were
looking at a story from within Italy about a deportation
campaign that they were doing inside the country and in
the country in Italy. They were like, this is like

(43:26):
the Italian Guantanamo. So like in America, we have to
try and refer to the Nazis to like other it,
to be like these people are like the Gestapo. This
is like Nazi Germany and everywhere else in the world.
They're like, no, we don't need to go that far back.
This is like America is like this is you know,
they can see it clearly.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
I thought these are slave catcher patrols, right, Oh, that
this was like ice, right Yeah, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
I thought this was a normal Tuesday in America.

Speaker 3 (43:59):
What but Ice is really losing losing the crowd it
reddit anti mice ice messaging is reportedly all over read
it right now, given in non political subreddits like our
cross stitch, our cat Bongos, which is all about politiful
drumming on cats, and our massive Cock, which now contains

(44:20):
posts such as how hard I get when I think
about abolishing ice.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
To the party exactly? So many, I mean there's a
there's a I think Wired wrote an article two about
how the Minnesota subreddit went from like stuff about the
Timberwolves and the Vikings and like hot dish recipes to
one of the like organizing, like a focal point from
Minnesotans to like to organize. And obviously that's where the

(44:49):
first instance of the Alex Preddi video was posted. Also,
and I'm sure they're probably like, fuck man, we just
sput all that money on TikTok, so we got to
get Reddit too, now, Yeah, because you know Reddit does
I mean, they're definitely they're opening them, they're open, but yeah,
they're really ban.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Our massive cock. Yeah, the Trump administration is taking control
of the subreddit.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Are massive Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
I wonder if the Minnesota subreddit is like if anybody
is like also being like a real quick did you
guys hear Yannis might like a Janis trade might be
in between because because the because the Timberwolves are in
like in the talks, they're they're one of the teams
that people say it could happen to get.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
It's pretty much completely shifted to like a community centric
subreddit that for that one. Are Timberwolves are timberl All right, there.

Speaker 3 (45:44):
You go, All right, let's take a quick break and
we'll come back and talk about sea monsters.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
We'll be right back, and we're back.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
We're back.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
And sometimes on this podcast we like to get a
look at the things that will be taught in schools
in fifty years when the Trump administration is on, you know,
on their like a segment called new Science, New Science. Yeah,
in the tenth straight Trump administration. Yeah what what what

(46:23):
are they going to be talking about?

Speaker 1 (46:24):
At that point? It's going to be as like formaldehyde
brain in a jar with like a egg on it
and they're like.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Just like a microphone to it and then someone's in
the back speaking for it.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Barren.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
But you know, the weather has been in the news
lately in the US because much of the country has
been hammered by winter storms. They were especially bad thanks
to the effects of climate change, or depending on who
you're listening to, a giant sea monster.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
I'm sorry, wait, a sea monster.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
A giant sea monster.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
It's just so funny when it's like they're like anything
but tell it, Like, you know, so many people are
out of power from the storms. Talk about the grid
or utility companies or those things. I like, someone like
fucking seem like, hold on, Jack, So what's now? Let
me know what's going on with sea monsters.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
So there's a viral conspiracy theory aka future science class
claiming that the storm was secretly faked in order to
distract the public from the real life Leviathan. I love
when it's just a distraction from real They just like
it doesn't have anything to do with it, really, But

(47:34):
they're saying that a blob in the ocean on Google
Earth is really the fearsome sea monster referenced in the
Hebrew Bible, and like some of them are a joke,
but then you know, probably not being taken as a
joke by some people. Other others it's much less clear.
They're just pointing at like the continental shelf and be like, oh, yeah,

(47:56):
how do you explain this.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
That's just that's a land mass underwater is what that is?
No land under water, that's the land is the green part.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
This is Oceana Florida, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
the levi Think coming coming for all of our asses.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
It says, Oh my god, the Leviathan is waking up
near Virginia. This is why they are creating a fake
snowstorm and manipulating the weather so they can freeze it
because the military base is in the area.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
Oh my god, everybody, Well wait a second, now that
does make sense. There are military bases in the area,
and I hadn't seen that.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Piece of yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
This sounds like some ship that my baby brother would
come up to me with the phone and be like,
look at this ship, yo.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
Yeah, look at this ship. You'll tell me this is Ai.
Look it's on Google Maps.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Everybody has that person in their life, and we're just
trying to prepare you guys. Yeah, what you're gonna have
to be talking to them about. This has become something
of a trend. In twenty twenty four, online conspiracy theorist
similarly claimed the hurt that Hurricane Burrell was actually caused
by the movements of a Leviathan. In reality, the hurricane

(49:13):
was fueled by exceptionally warm ocean temperatures, which were directly
attributed to climate change or the movements of a Leviathan. Yeah,
just like the stirred shit up. I guess they just
saw the world.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
But like, isn't there someone who's at least doing some
junk science as to like Okay, so okay, let me
meet you where you are. So the Leviathan moved, Now
we'll kind of right connect that to a went to
a polar vortex or whatever.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Just ok can we go there, spinning, spinning vortex.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
You're doing it.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
Spin, Okay, Leviathan moving the ocean around. I don't know
how hurricanes work, but I can look at that motion.
You're telling me a Leviathan didn't create that. Guys, put
a snake in in a rubber made container with some
water in it. Okay, Now, when that snake moves, a
snowstorm will appear. A star.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Now extrapolate that seven hundred thousand times the size, and
now you have a polar fortex Okay, thank you.

Speaker 5 (50:14):
I'm not gonna lie I don't. I don't swim, and
not because I'm black that I don't swim. I just
don't swim because I in my mind, I'm not gonna
lie if it's like not a pool, like it's like
a lake or an ocean.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
I do make up a Leviathan in my mind paranoia. Well,
like I you know, my my my thought process are we.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Don't know who the Yeah, we don't.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
I hate an unlaid pool at night. I mean, I
don't know why. I think it's because I'm just I
grew up in the air of Jaws and like other
weird shit. There's like also scenes from like Star Wars
or in the trash Compactor and that little things grabbing
them and ship yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I think all
that comebined to be, like I need to see the bottom.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah the ocean is.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
The ocean's got wild ship in there, like it really.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
We got here. That's part of why this Leviathan is moving.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
Like you can.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
You don't need to make up conspiracy theories. You just
like look at what fishing crawlers like pull in and
there'll just be like something that looks like a little
potato bug, but it's like six feet Tall was like,
we just pulled this off the bottom of the ocean.
Didn't know that was down there?

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:27):
TikTok videos were selectively editing a clip in which a
Fox News weather guy seemingly compared Hurricane Burreut to a dragon.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
So and that's enough. Yeah, I mean this we're just
such in that post truth era where like if there's
a TikTok video said with enough conviction or that really
uncharismatic AI narration voice people use, it's like maybe because
even with like the the new footage of Alex Pretty's
interaction or the altercation with Ice like from eleven days

(51:56):
before he got killed, there's a lot of people like
liberals were like, this is AI, this is fake, this
is not real or whatever. He's wearing the same thing.
It's like some people just have one winter coat. That
might be why, And you're like, come on, And I
think some people, I think a lot of those people
are responding to like the MAGA presentation of that video
where they go and see, I told you this guy

(52:18):
is a fucking terrorist or whatever, and people rather than
just arriving at things like this altercation changes nothing about
the context in which he was murdered just so you know,
so okay, And it just sounds like he was standing
on business eleven days before he got killed too, so
and I think that's where a lot of people were like, no,
this is AI. You can tell like no, no, Jack,

(52:40):
Like he's wearing the exact same thing. You can't kick
a light off of a thing so easily. And it's like, look, guys,
like it's dude, he could.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Have kicked that car so hard it exploded. I know
anything about how cars work from nineteen seventies and eighties movies.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Yeah, right, right, right, he could have kicked that car
so hard cars explode. Just I'm a little fender bender. Yeah,
every action movie taught me that. Yeah, yeah, but I
know what he was up to. It's crazy, but yeah,
I think it's just gonna get worse and worse because
there's already, like I see on Reddit too, the is
this AI or AI very Like there's so many subreddits
where people post stuff and be like is this AI?

(53:17):
I'm not sure anymore? My mom's claiming this is real
or whatever, and like you have entire like you have
thousands of people now like trying to vet content to
be like no, this isn't it, and like trying to
show people, but this is another layer of media literacy.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
We you know, have you ever gotten an email from
your friend like yo, before all this started happening and
stuff like like the AI videos got crazy, I got
a message from a friend and it was her face
and it was her voice, and it was like oh tk,
oh my god, thanks yo, like thanks for like responding,
like can you send me like some money? And I

(53:53):
was just like in my mind, I was like, we
don't even know each other like that, and I just
have by these sense And I texted her and I
was like, are you on Facebook right now?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (54:01):
And she was like no, like I'm at work.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
And I was like, somebody sew your face, yo, somebody
sew your face and your voice. But this was like
ten years ago, so we weren't even thinking on this level.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Right, So I mean now, because they're even saying like
people like you'll get these calls like a scam call
where no one talks just to get you to start
talking so they can clone your voice. Yeah, and then
those like three times a day and I'm like, what
do you need me to say? The quick brown Fox,
It is me Jack ob bran.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, or they want you to say yes to some
fake question.

Speaker 5 (54:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah, they gotta be accessing podcast files right like that.
There's so many hours of people talking.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Yeah, we have episode two thousand coming up. I know,
damn me. A lot of people are gonna get a
call from me. Just no, I would never call you ever, ever, ever, ever,
So don't worry. It's not me.

Speaker 3 (54:56):
And that goes for you mom.

Speaker 1 (54:58):
Yeah, obviously Japanese to her. She knows, she would know,
she would know.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
Yeah, this is our writer.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
Jam pointed out that this is not a new phenomenon
of blaming monsters for natural disasters. People have pointed out
that the Lockness is on a fault zone, and so
people think that the original Lockness monster myth got started
because of faults. It like, let little earthquakes and people
are damn the monster.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Moving over there. Oh wow wow.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
And then a lot of early dragon myths started around
places that have methane deposits that cause mysterious fires and
so like there would be like an explosion of fire
in the woods and they'd be like, damn, yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Damn dragon, that damn dragon. It was just some kid
playing with matches and shit, what happened that? Damn dragon?

Speaker 5 (55:50):
Mom?

Speaker 1 (55:51):
What the fuck? We better get King George to do
something about this.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
But yeah, it's just wild that we're not We're not
much further than we were there of King George.

Speaker 5 (56:01):
We've been primed up mentally for like ancient mythology to
like cross over to like meet AI at some point,
to meet the Internet, and like, you know, and it
could be as innocuous as like, oh, you know, when
a thunderstorm is happening, God is the bowling, God's bowling.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Or fucking Seuss is throwing fucking lightning bolts.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
And I'm like, we've been like primed for like this
kind of storytelling, and now we've got to an age
where like we can make pictures and videos look like
the thing.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
So it was just a matter of time, y'all.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well luckily though, it's one of those
things too where I do see generationally, like thank god,
most younger people are so skeptical. They're like no, no, yeah, no, no,
no no.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
But that's not everyone. Untu people who watch CNN or CBS.

Speaker 4 (56:52):
Or any of that shit.

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Man, CNN has gotten real wild, they gotten real. I
don't know, I don't see anything here. Yeah, I'm just
saying we got to got to keep an eye on
those people.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Are any of the channels on the ground in Minnesota?

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Like, are any of the men on the ground?

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Some people do, like you know, when they were probably
trying to get as much like dynamic footage as possible,
meaning like they want to show run it over and over. Yeah, yeah,
yeah exactly. But then they're like, damn all these people
are real kind to each other. Huh.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
You can't do nothing with that.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Well, you can't talk about the Epstein files. So what else?
What else? What else?

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Here you hear about these basketball players that were rigging games?
What the fuck? Okay?

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Same as bad? Yeah, TK, such a pleasure having you
as always on the daily. Where can people find you?
Follow you all that good stuff?

Speaker 5 (57:49):
Find me all over social media, But my best one
or my favorite one is Instagram at Tasty Keys and
Tastykeish dot com is the website, The Secret Life of
TK test is the podcast.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
And I'll just be out here. I'll just be out here.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Yeah, amazing.

Speaker 3 (58:05):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

Speaker 5 (58:08):
Yes, okay, I love a good I love a good telenovela,
but it also has to be like steeped in history
and it has to have mad episodes. So on Netflix
right now, I've been watching this show called Defying Destiny,
that's the English name, and it's a show about a
former she was a former domestic worker, but she's like

(58:29):
been through matching her life. Like it takes place in
Columbia and like, actually it looks old, but it's like
the nineteen nineties, but like you know, the gorilla like
army came and like got like shot her sister. It
was crazy, man. Anyway, she basically became a union worker
and is like protecting the rights of domestic workers. But

(58:50):
like the thing spans from age sixteen to present, so
it's sixty seven episodes.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
Or something like that, and every day I'm watching like
five episodes.

Speaker 4 (59:00):
At a time.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
So wow, that's what I'm watching right now.

Speaker 5 (59:03):
Like I'm locked in, like I'm on her third baby
with her, you know, and her friend just got killed.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
That'd be like helping the community.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
Yeah, yeah, that sounds good.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Oh yeah, I love that shit.

Speaker 5 (59:15):
So defined desiny, y'all, and the lady, the woman's name
is Maria Roa.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
If y'all are interested in like learning about the real person.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
There you go, miles Where can people find you as
their workimedia you've been enjoying?

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You can
catch me talking about ninety day Fiance on four to
twenty Day Fiance And if you want to catch me
talking about the English Premier League and my favorite club
Arsenal specifically, that's on the new show Ain't It Footy?
With Me Jammel Johnson and Chris Martin. A couple things
I like one just this, This little bit of news

(59:51):
came in that the Senate fails to advance spending package
after Democrats refuse to back DHS Funday, okay, so look
at you guys, Look at you doing a little bit. Now,
this is doing a little bit more, do it a
little bit more? Come on now, come on down. And
also this, we've been talking a lot about the Malania

(01:00:11):
screenings and they're just like people are just posting like
the amc app and just showing how many seats are
available and all like the showings. This one is from
Albuquerque and this is from at Stayed indoors Skuy socialid set.
It just shows like the map of the movie but
in the very extreme back left corner there's like two
seats taken. And then they posted they're doing hand stuff

(01:00:33):
at the Malania screening. Yeah. I don't know what the
fuck you're doing way back there, but okay, go go off.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
That's amazing. We should we should. We gotta go to
a screening and just sit in the front row and
turn around.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
I'll theater hop you know what I mean, you know,
I'll go to another movie and then I'll just go
on there, just peek in the fuck are you all
doing in here? Okay, nobody's here. Great?

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Great, I've been enjoying.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Work.

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
To me, I just been like people showing the footage
of like the isolated footage of the guy from who
attacked ilhan Omar, like when he's just sitting in the crowd. Yeah,
future Adam Curtis b Roll said Tim Heideker character, which
he really.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Does look like.

Speaker 3 (01:01:20):
And then another guy said, looking like an alien from
Men in Black and he really has Edgar.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
Skin is hanging off your ball and zicher.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Edgar, your face is hanging off your skull.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
There's this better.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O,
Brian blue Sky at Jack ob one Instagram, Jack Underscore,
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(01:01:57):
to it, and there at the bottom you will find
the foot no, well no, which is where we link
off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
We also link off to a song that we think
you might enjoy, Miles, is there a song you think
that people might enjoy?

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Yeah, yeah, just just some upbeat music. Same group again.
Yesterday we went out on the track from the Lejahdu Sisters.
We're doing it again, the Nigerian sisters who are putting
out albums in the sixties, seventies and eighties and then again.
This track is called Bobby though, and this one has
more of like a reggae rocker feel to it as
opposed to the other stuff that's a kind of acrobat

(01:02:30):
This one is dope. It's called Bobby and it's by
the lee Jadu Sisters L I J A. D.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
You all right, We will link off to that in
the footnotes. Daily zeik is a production of iHeartRadio. For
more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app,
Apple podcast wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's
gonna do it for us this week. Yep, we are
back on Monday with a new Icons episode and then

(01:02:56):
Monday afternoon to tell you what was trending over the
weekend and we will talk.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
To you all then Bye bye. The Daily Zeitgeist is
executive produced by Catherine Long, co produced by Bee Wang,
co produced by Victor Wright, co written by j M mcnapp,
edited and engineered by Justin Conner.

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