August 31, 2026 • 54 mins
In this edition of Coyote vs. Trendme, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the Pentagon’s influencer psyop, an update on Freedom Fuel, Trump’s trade war with Canada (feat. Lake America), the release of ‘Coyote vs. Acme’ and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yeah, but you almost always, are you thinking about coming
out of retirement? I keep reaching out. I keep reaching
out to all of these major universities and letting them
know that I still have four years of eligibility. Like I,
I get all those. When I was on the practice
squad for the Georgetown women's basketball team, that apparently like
(00:25):
I had my lawyers look into it. That didn't count.
I could still play for you. Also, I barely remember
that because I was always so hungover, but fun times.
Great workout. Like, oh man, I hate posting that one
sweaty hungover guy. Yeah. They would fuck me up. Oh
(00:46):
my God.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
His sweat just smells like a cork. Like not even
in a bad way.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's just so. It just authentically smells like a wine drenched. Yeah.
Not even a wine. It's like, that's a PD. It's PD.
That's pork. I'm smelling. Oh, sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I passed out face down in the bog last night. Ladies,
that's what you're smelling the bog on me. I think. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Passed out face down in a bog and didn't drown? No,
I just kind of absorbed the bog power. I breathed
through my ass. A different kind of Wade Boggs.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, yeah. Wade. I was doing a different. I was
doing the Wade Boggs challenge. which is apparently drinking 24
beers like wade boggs did it when he was playing
baseball but i thought it was i got drunk and
confused and thought it was waiting through a literal boggs.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah after that new cool song i wrote wade in
the bogger wade in the bog and then people didn't
like it but that was a good song just picturing
jack um like spiritual.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Just run my running stream of consciousness hung over commentary
the negro spiritual wade boggs did once claim he downed
over a hundred beers on a flight from boston to
l.a yeah that's a that's a classic It's like the
only thing I know. 100 beers. What? What? What a
(02:28):
crazy clip. 100 beers on an airplane. Isn't that all
the beer on an airplane? I know, right? It's like, dude,
you drink literally all. We only bring 100 beers on there.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There's not that much room to store cans of beer
on a plane.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Are there eyewitnesses, or.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Is this just him being.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Like, I drank 100 beers on an airplane?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I mean, Andre the Giant definitely did on a plane.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, there was, like, there was also that one restaurant
tab he ran up.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Like.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Andre the Giant. Yeah, like, those are at least, those
are documented.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Like, someone could be like, you don't know, I was there.
I wonder if, like, someone's... They were bringing him beers
on a forklift, you know? Yeah. Like, that's... Yeah. You
need a forklift to wait on that full. Like, that's their...
claiming to have drank 107 beers as a normal sized
human seems like it might be an exaggeration but it's
such a funny thing to like that is some uncle
(03:22):
rico shit to the yeah i drank 107 beers on
a single flight three how many hours that like five six.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Hours yeah yeah yeah between that's like a five five
so that's oh by the way logan to la somewhat
it's so funny in the red socks subreddit someone said
hey guys we all know wade boggs legendary drinker he
said i had the pleasure of sitting next to wade
boggs at a bar yeah it's a go.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah i was reading the same thing and he claims
that he he he's like he would actually leave 20
percent left in the bottle so like he wasn't actually
finished which this was two years ago so wade boggs
is still fucking crushing it like still that's.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's funny how Is he still crushing it or he's
still haunted by something he hasn't dealt with quite yet?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
That's 1,200 ounces of beer if he drank 100 beers
on one.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Wouldn't that kill you? That would definitely kill you, right?
Unless he has some weird... That's 75 pounds of beer.
I just have to call bullshit. an adolescent sized human
body worth of beer.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I'm starting to think bullshit too, because where is that going?
Like you're literally getting on the plane and then getting
off 75 pounds heavier unless you're, doing a lot of
pissing oh.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The pissing must have been absurd like he must have
just stayed pissing like it must have been like a
an actual fountain yeah just like non-stop extra large hefty
bag catheter yeah stood at the toilet while drinking the
100 beers anyways don't try that i would that that's
my takeaway from this i would not recommend anyone do
(05:10):
the wade bog bogs challenge unless it's uh waiting in
an actual bog.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
We.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is Mr.
Miles Gray. Coming out of retirement. Yeah, I decided coming
out of retirement. They said his workouts have been crazy.
Is this a story outside of Los Angeles? Aaron Donald
coming out of retirement. It was a national headline, which
(05:51):
is why I even bothered to ask.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I was like, is this good that he's coming out
of retirement as someone who is notoriously ignorant about most
things NFL after 1998?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah. It's at least interesting. It'll be interesting to see
because he was so good. So top of his form,
Aaron Donald, when he retired. And he's been out for
three years, but people say he's still in tip-top. Tip-topper.
My name is Jack O'Brien. We said that. This is
the episode where we tell you what was trending over
(06:21):
the weekend, what is trending on this Monday morning. But first,
we'd like to let you get to know us a
little bit better by telling you some things we think
are underrated, some things we think are overrated. Miles, what's
something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Underrated, how kids nickname, kids make up names for things
that end up It's underrated how a kid's imagination can
also end up coming up with a curse word or
something I wouldn't say in public a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
The thing being.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So Her Majesty went on a trip to visit a
friend and brought back the guy's child, like a little
school bus toy.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Sure. And he was playing with it, and he started
calling it Bussy. Bussy. Yeah. And... I was like, wait, what?
He's like, say it again, say it again. He's like, yo,
where's my pussy? I was like, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on. Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Your buddy was like, oh, that's a fun name. He's like, yeah,
this is Bussy. And he's like, because it's different. There's
school bus, but this one's Bussy.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You can't not react to that. And also, I'm not
trying to like... You're not made of steel. I'm not
showing my hand to him either. I don't want him to...
I'm not trying to be like, yo, what do you
call that shit? I was like, oh, yeah, okay, that's Bussy. Uh-huh.
And what else is going on with that? And I
was laughing so... I turned around and started laughing.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And which made him more curious he's like why are
you laughing and i'm like i was like no sorry
i was thinking and i just had to do the
thing that you do as a parent where you just
have to make up some outline like oh sorry i
was thinking of a thing that uh you uncle jeremy
said like on the phone last week made me funny
that made me laugh don't worry it's not doing.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Bussy um anyways keep telling me about them yeah dude
just that's crazy bro the people can go in and
out of the back yeah and then just like being
like what's wrong with me i'm a fucking.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Adult But I just got the biggest kick out of
this organic.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Renaming of the toy. That means you're alive.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And then I started laughing because then I had to
show Her Majesty the meme that Chris Crofton loves, which says, oh,
hell no, they burn in Spongebob's pussy.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
When it was like.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
The Macy's Day float that had the flame in the back.
And I was then explaining to her that Chris Crofton loves, like,
I just was, I was connected to so many things.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I just kept laughing about. Um, but anyway, shout out
to Bob real gen, uh, you know, random thought generators.
They're great. Great for content. These fucking kids. I'll tell
you what, man. Yeah, exactly. All right. My underrated, uh, Uh,
I'm carrying this over from the Garfield notebook dump. You
missed the Garfield episode. You were, you're out of town, but, um,
(09:17):
my underrated is India, the state of Indiana during the 1980s. Um,
which is something that this Garfield episode, uh, revealed to me. Um, because,
so I was talking about, so Jim Davis caught proud Indiana, Indianan, Indianian, um,
So is David, he went to college with David Letterman
(09:38):
at Ball State in Indiana and David Letterman is from Indianapolis.
And then we were talking in the Madonna episode about
how Michael Jackson was born in Indiana. Gary, yeah. Gary, Indiana.
So I'm just like, wow, Indiana was like holding down
the eighties. They had Letterman who like the Letterman show
(09:59):
that was like this cut edge comedy thing, like debuted
1980 thriller came out. 84 becomes the bestselling album of
all time. Garfield, fucking explodes. Like it starts in 80
or it starts in 78. And like by 81, it's
like seven of the 10 books on the bestsellers list.
(10:19):
It's crazy how much people fucked with Garfield. So then
I was thinking about it during the notebook dump. And
I was also like, Oh shit. Like John Cougar Mellencamp
was like the Springsteen for Indiana too. Yeah. Hurt. So good.
Jack and Diane, uh, pink houses. Like these are popular song,
(10:40):
like number one hits that are like portraits of life
in Indiana. Um, Axel Rose was from Indiana who locked
down the late eighties with paradise city. Um, and then
Blake in our conversation talked about how Bobby Knight and
Indiana university basketball was like dominant in 81 to 87.
And I started thinking about that. He also coached Michael
(11:00):
Jordan to gold medal in 84 and, Started thinking about that.
And then I was like, oh shit, Larry Bird. Right.
French lick. The most associated with a state that I
have for a professional basketball player. And it was like
Bird vs. Magic was like the entire 80s. It was
like a crazy... And then the movie Hoosiers came out
(11:24):
in the 80s and is like, you know, a favorite of...
of people who are like Larry Bird and the Hoosiers
guy play basketball the right way, if you know what
I'm saying. Screaming. A Christmas story set in Indiana. The
thing that really, that I was like, oh shit, Indiana
Jones comes out in the 80s and is called Indiana
(11:45):
for no fucking reason. Right. Whatsoever. Right. And then, so
after I recorded it, I couldn't, like, I kept thinking
about Indiana shit that happened in the eighties. The, uh,
Lou Holtz and Notre Dame was like a big deal
in the eighties. But the thing that really, uh, that
I wanted to add to my Indiana was the center
of the world during the eighties is that stranger things.
(12:07):
I feel like a show that was supposed to be
emblematic of the entire decade of the eighties. And like,
I feel like that's the one thing they absolutely do
nail is like their ability to, uh, like really, you know,
nail the essence of the eighties is, is also set
in Indiana. So like, it's like people know something about
(12:29):
the eighties in Indiana or like people in the eighties
were like, yeah, fucking India. Just name your character, Indiana.
And you got a hit on your hands.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's fucking weird. He was just going to be called
Eric Jones. But then I'm like, just what about Indiana?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah. Okay. Soy random. Yeah. And I have no good explanation,
which is why I like it. It's because it like
doesn't make any sense. It's just like randomly everything was
coming out of the, you know, 38th largest state in
the country. I love shit like that where you like can't.
explain exactly why it is, but it's just like, yeah,
(13:08):
the zeitgeist, there's something happening on a deeper level that I,
you know, we can't put words to that for whatever reason. Yeah.
For whatever reason, everyone's like the center of the universe.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The center of the universe is this random state above,
above Kentucky. What is something you think is overrated miles? Overrated, uh,
traditional elder care.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know, uh, takings your, your elderly loved ones to
like a convalescent home assisted living center. Uh, because you
got Costco and that's what I want to point out.
Every time I go to Costco, it's my favorite thing
to see the old discarded family members in the furniture
(13:51):
section where they're like, you wait here, we're going to
go shopping. You just, disassociate, look into the middle distance
with these eight other elderly people who are on this
sectional couch with you that are also in a similar situation.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Just playing bridge.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
There's something amazing about like every, every time. And this must,
I'm wondering if this has to be a universal constant
because When you're shopping at Costco, you're typically buying in
volume or something because you're paying that unit price.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You want that unit price to come down.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh, yeah. So I always see big family outings, but
it's just like there's something about just these cozy sections
in the middle part of Costco where there's a ton
of furniture.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
There's a bed if you even want to lay down. Yeah.
Just lay down. Test that out for two to three hours. Yeah.
But I think there's just something. There's something. Great. I
don't know. There's something heartwarming to me.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Because it reminds me of when I used to take
my grandma to the grocery store, but she was so old.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
We were like, bro, just sit here by the flowers.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Because we want to get you out of the house. Yeah.
You like flowers?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You're not going to do the 45-minute walk around and
put in shit. It's like, sit right there and enjoy.
Take your family to Costco. There's food around. There's plenty
of people. Someone's going to have an eye on them.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, drop by every couple hours with some free samples
for them.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Armful of little mini hot dogs, whatever they got out
on that little hot plate.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Go out there.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But Costco, I honestly think you might have a new
business model you can tap into.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I could definitely see them doing end of life. That's
the thing that happens in, I think, the last season
of Succession, right? Where they're like, we're going to pivot
to end of life care. Oh yeah. Like city of
the future for the elderly. Well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Cause people just see just, they're like, Oh, here's an
entire market. That's about to just emerge all at once
in the next right now to 10 years from now.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
But yeah, I just, I love the, I just love the,
there's an honesty about all of the old people who
are just left there while their families shop. And they're just,
they're not even using phones. They're not even reading. They're
just like purely on pause just right there.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah. Love to see it. You can watch whatever they're
showing on the TV displays in the TV section.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
The one that I go to, the TVs are kind
of off in another... Too far away. They're chilling inside
their own heads.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah. Comfortably.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Comfortably. It's a little bleak, but... Yeah, well, you know.
Depends on... Yeah. I'll try to put a positive spin
on it when I see it. Late stage capitalism. I
can't afford... the end of life care, but I can't
afford this cost code card. And I can't afford to
let you sit on this wonderful. Goddamn. That's comfy. Is
(16:45):
this micro suede? Wow. It's vegan, huh? Okay. Shit breathes. Um,
all right. My overrated also kind of related to the elderly, um,
is blue zones, which is a thing that I totally
fell for. You know, I, I, It's a fairly straightforward premise.
(17:06):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I didn't have this myth busted for me until, I'm
not joking, 10 days ago.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Oh, really?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
When I was on my trip and a friend brought up,
they're like, you know, blue zones are bullshit, right?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I was like, what? No.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
No. I saw so many infomercials about people in the
blue zones diet and that's how.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
They live forever. So the three famous ones are Sardinia, Okinawa,
and Loma Linda in California. And I lived in Loma
Linda for... About a month and a half while my
wife was doing a medical rotation. And so I thought
that that was going to convey on me. I was like, well,
(17:44):
that month and a half didn't count. Well, you didn't
age for sure. Yeah, I did not age. Uh, so
there's a book by a fucking statistician, uh, called morbid debunking,
modern longevity science, blue, uh, Oxford researcher named Saul, Justin Newman.
And he is looking into, uh, Like a lot of
(18:07):
these cases where people will be like, yeah, this person
lived to 116. What's their secret? And both in the
individual cases and in the blue zone cases, he's like,
usually their secret is they don't have a birth certificate. Yeah.
And so they're able to just say however old they
want to be. And the media is like, oh, hell yeah,
(18:30):
we got a story, folks. And I respect my elders.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I got to be like 105 at this point. He
was 88. But he looks into blue zones. And so
it started with a statistician looking into... The fact that
there are like more hundred year olds in Sardinia than
other places. And I didn't read, but I read a
New Yorker summary of the book and they don't get
into any debunking of Sardinia. So that one might be valid.
(18:57):
But what happens, how it goes from this one place
seems to have like very long lived people who more
frequently than others make it to 100. How it goes
from that to like, there are certain regions in the
world that have this magical property was a national geographic
article that came out the next year. Those like, okay, well,
(19:19):
how about we build on that? Let's turn this thought
out statistical research into a Buzzfeed article, the print journalism
equivalent of a Buzzfeed article. And the author of that
Nat Geo article trademarked the term started suing people if
they sold anything that had mentioned blue zones. Wow. Made
(19:43):
millions of dollars issuing municipalities blue Zones stamps of approval.
Went on to write best-selling books about Blue Zones, offer
cooking classes... speaking fees, found a company that made millions
of dollars. And yeah, it's just, you know, the way
that shit in America works, where it's just like there's
(20:05):
money to be made. And so we will exploit a loophole.
But in terms of the writing of the article, Loma
Linda was included because his uh, editor was like, we
got to have an American one or like this thing's not,
and people aren't going to give a shit. Oh my God.
That's how they ended. Yeah. Linda, California ended up in there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So, I mean, I think Loma Linda is slightly like
has a elevated, uh, length of life, but it's not
like this magical place where everybody's a hundred years old. Uh,
it's a place where, you know, due to the it's
seventh day Adventists. And so there are all, um, vegetarians.
So that can be helpful. Um, but, uh, Okinawa is
(20:50):
wild because I didn't realize this. Uh, so it says
among Japanese prefectures, uh, okinawa ranks first in consumption of
kfc and last in consumption of seafood sweet potatoes and
leafy greens uh its residents have japan's highest average body
mass index more than a third of okinawan men's smoke
um and some books about blue zones encourage people to
(21:12):
drink two glasses of red wine a day but okinawans
drink like tons of beer yeah and so what are
you on Yeah. And so they were like, so I
don't know, I guess you gotta eat KFC smoke and
drink beer. And they think that it goes back to
the fact that there was a devastating American bombing campaign
during the second world war that destroyed the infrastructure and
(21:35):
all its civil records. Um, and so Jesus Christ. So
it was just like, I don't know, most vibes. So
it just has fewer civil records and like birth certificates
for people who are currently, uh, hitting this age. And
then there's also the fact that, um, people can't, you
can collect money like at a certain age and at various,
(21:58):
like in various countries. Um, he tells a story that
I think I remember from the news that they went in,
in Japan on the, uh, respect for the aged day
in 2010, Japanese officials went to the home of a
Tokyo man, uh, to congratulate him on living to 111,
and they found a mummified corpse in his bedroom, and
(22:20):
he'd been dead for three decades, and his family had
just been collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars in pension money.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Hold on, let me check on him really quick.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah he's all right he's good he's doing all right
which also does put the mitch mcconnell thing into perspective
like you can pull that shit off for.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
A while i remember i think like a year ago
we talked about a lady who brought in a corpse
on a wheelchair to sign a check at a bank
yeah and then they're like lady this is a dead
body this is not a sleepy man this is a
corpse oh man it's funny my birthday is uh respect
for the elderly day oh really september.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
15th yeah god damn that's why you've always respected the
elders and brought them to.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Costco and i i deny them the peace of of
laying being laid to rest and just doing social security
scams that's right.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yep yep yep but yeah i don't know but that
i that totally got my ass i was like i
gotta live like The people in Loma Linda and Okinawa
to eat this KFC. Shout out Yum Brands. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But to have a new zone with me, how'd this
guy eat all this Taco Bell.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And live to 48? The Wade Boggs zone. People are
able to drink over a hundred beers.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
They're saying it's like, it's kind of like his hitting
map where it's like, you don't want to pitch to
Wade Boggs in the Wade Boggs zone, but then you
map that over earth.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
These are the spots you want to live. All right,
let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk
about some news. We'll be right back. And we're back.
We're back. Hey, and speaking of media scams, we're learning
(24:15):
that the Pentagon, I mean, we kind of had a
sense that the Pentagon was colluding with right-wing influencers when
they when they uh their entire press corps became comprised
of right-wing influencers yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
There's like the one guy in the clan outfit um
with the with the all over print american flag clan
costume there was uh laura loomer you know just all
kinds of really fun people who top not i'm joking
about the clan person but It feels like a real
character that we would eventually see in this idiocracy.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I was willing to believe that that was somebody who
would be... It's just so funny. You see that press pool?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It's just a guy in an American flag, KKK outfit, like, uh, Mr.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Secretary, Secretary, uh, yes, yes. People are asking why you're
so based. Um, so anyway. I assumed that that was
happening at a, like, Production level like, oh, well, we're
giving them access and that's all journalists seek is access.
I did not know that they were on the fucking payroll.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, well, there's definitely some we've now found are just
straight up.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Like, they're employees of the Pentagon. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And it's funny, too, because, like, right-wing pundits, like, they
always love to call people feds.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
They're like, no, that guy's not a real, that guy's
a fed. He's like, he's not a real Republican. That
guy's a fed. The government's making him do that. Like, well, shit.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Every accusation can be a confession because the Washington Post
revealed that Pete Hegseth is employing these pundits to push
his agenda in public against this backdrop right now, right? Where, like,
Iran just struck some more military infrastructure, and now Trump
is like, we're going to hit back. We're continuing to
(25:55):
spiral downward in this failed military campaign. So yeah, it
makes sense that he wants to pay people to get
out there and be like, hey man, talk up how
I'm good, and this is all necessary.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
This is from the Washington Post.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Quote, the Pentagon has secretly installed several conservative military veterans
with large online followings in government roles, declining to disclose
their assignments as they amplify Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's viewpoints
and attack those who scrutinize the administration. At least some
of the influencers have been assigned to civilian roles that
could lead to changes in policy. Neither the Pentagon nor
(26:32):
those involved have disclosed the government roles, despite the Trump
administration's claims that they are running the most transparent defense
department ever. Um, some of these people, like I've heard,
like not really heard of, cause I'm not on military
Twitter that much. One guy, this guy, Kurt Schlichter, he
is like a retired military, uh, air force Colonel and,
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or army Colonel. And he is always out here saying wild,
just nonsense stuff. He's like, when, when Scalia dies, like
there's going to be a civil war cause Scalia is dead. Um,
and last week, against all the talk about the trade
war with Canada, he decided to anthropomorphize Canada in an
(27:15):
op-ed where he said that, A, Canadians need to submit
to Trump in the trade war because we're better. And
he also said if Canada were a woman, she would
be a, quote, fugly, sexually dysfunctional wine woman with a
hate-has-no-home-here sign on the front lawn of the condo It
shares with five cats, all named after characters in Twilight.
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Americans don't think much of Canada, literally.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
We don't think of you.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Anyway, so this is, yeah, these are the kinds of just,
you know, galaxy-brained rhetoricians they've got on the payroll now.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I like that his, like, wild... you know, anthropomorphization of, like,
the worst thing he could imagine is somebody with a
hate has no home here. Yeah. Is that bad?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
They're so, like, just not in the real world anymore.
Everything reflexively is like, it's like a lib woman.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Right. That's the worst thing you could be. A woman
with cats.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And you don't think hate has any place in our society?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
So what is the He's like, I'd prefer a man
who says, hate fucking lives here with a bunch of
dogs that he feeds Miller Lite.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's America. That's what I want to be around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
The Pentagon has said that this is all, they accuse
the Post.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Of leaking classified information. That's what they do every time.
They say this is bullshit and also how you get
this classified information. Also, this is illegal.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And also, you're not allowed to have this information that
is classified and also totally not true. How'd you get
this fake information? How'd you get this fake information that
you're not allowed to have because you're not allowed to
have it? I did have the question, and this is
just an indication of where we're at. I was like, damn,
is the Washington Post allowed to say that? That person's
(29:15):
going to get in trouble. Are you fired, dude? You're
getting fired for doing journalism? You're going to be in
so much trouble, dude. You can't do journalism like that.
Not there, dude. You ain't on Substack? God damn.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think that's where they kind of, you know, they
still do have people doing journalism. I'm sure they just
have to be like, look, man, okay, you can't do
like another piece like that for like six months.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just do the, they launder. the
Trump bait, the, like, Trump-pleasing articles through the op-ed section. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And stuff, too, like, where they might, it's easier to
go after people in the cabinet than full frontal attack
on Trump and just be more like, Pete Hegseth's doing what?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All right. we have an update on, uh, the story
of freedom fuel. Yeah. Which, uh, as we, as we
covered gas prices have not gone down as promised, uh,
in the, in the aftermath of the aftermath. Yeah. The,
You know, once Trump got his sweet ceasefire that never happened.
(30:21):
And in fact, they've gone up except for in one
place where they sell freedom fuel. Is it are they
still doing the same pricing based on like Trump, like 47?
It's just lower. I know they're just keeping it on average.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It's the cheapest fuel around if you're in Pennsylvania or
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
It's like the two states where these things exist. New Jersey,
where you can't even pump your own gas. They make
somebody pump it for you. That's how expensive the gas
is in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I mean, I think the second this story came out,
everyone's first question was like, okay, who the fuck owns this?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And then we're like, okay, we've connected to it. It's
a billionaire trying to do favors for Trump.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, and another dude who owns some gas stations, again,
with connections to Trump world. The second part was like,
where the fuck are they getting this gas on the cheap?
Or are they just self-owning by completely... Saying like, all right,
we'll eat this deer leader for you give us some
kind of sweet deal down the road.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well, a new lawsuit may help answer that.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Oil supplier Mansfield Oil Company, this is from the New Republic,
sued a company that provided gas to Freedom Fuel, KRSM Inc.,
for acquiring over 1.1 million gallons of fuel worth about
$ 4 million.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Without paying for it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
According to the lawsuit, KRSM hadn't paid for the fuel
as of August 17th, despite getting the fuel from Mansfield
between May 21st and July 7th, which lines up to
when we saw the Freedom Fuels even be unveiled by
Trump around.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
4th of July.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
KRSM sold a, quote, portion of the fuel it acquired
to Freedom Fuel stations. We don't know how big a
portion that is, but Mansfield alleges in the lawsuit that
KRSM sold discounted fuel to Freedom Fuel, and was able to, quote,
garner such publicity because he, quote, never paid for it.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Oh, that's a good way to do it. Like, I
haven't been trying that because I've been paying, like, I've
been getting gas that's very expensive in my non-electric vehicle. Wait,
you're paying for it? So, yeah, yeah, I was paying
for it. That's your problem. You're paying for it. No, no, no, no, no.
Just steal it. Just steal it. Just don't pay for it.
(32:34):
Just don't. With this one trick, they don't want you
to know. We did. When we were talking about this before,
we were like, yeah, you know, it's probably some sort
of quid pro quo where, like, the person, they got
a wealthy investor to, like, pay for all the money
or pay for all the gas up front, and then, like,
they're getting some payoff down the line. But then we
(32:55):
were also like, that does seem like a little bit too...
sophisticated for trump like there's got to be something else
like very very stupid like his schemes tend to be
much stupider than that yeah it's uh steal the gas
yeah it's just don't never pay for it don't and
then ask for uh him to bail you out yeah which.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yep yeah yep i think maybe that's i think that's
probably what happens right they go uh mr president mansfield
oil's real They keep talking about how we stole the gas,
you know, like the thing you told us to do.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Like, what do you do? Yeah, that'd be fine. We'll just...
I'll stop it. Don't worry. Just keep on freedoming. Freedom
that fuel. So the freedom fuel was free to the... Yeah. Goddamn.
To the owners. Very revolutionary. Yeah. In many ways. Absolutely.
Hell yeah, dog. All right. And speaking of Donald Trump,
(33:50):
he does have... The way to get, you know, we've
been talking about how data centers have become very unpopular
and everyone's mad at them. You know, thanks to we
were talking last week about how the. a lot of
the backlash against data centers, which, uh, bring nobody any
(34:12):
benefits except for the billionaires who are building them, how
the entire, all the negative feelings about those are being
seeded in the American public by, uh, a Chinese propaganda campaign. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
It has to be, was their theory of the case. Um, anyways,
Donald Trump has, has a solution. He he's figured out
how to pitch the stuff, baby.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I wasn't sure how this senile bastard was going to
pull off a rhetorical masterstroke and convince Americans that shitty
data centers are good and needed.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
But he's only gone and done it, Jack. He posted
on Truth Social. Oh, nah. Hell nah, man. Trump's gone
and done it.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Quote, the only reason that communities throughout the USA should
not want data centers is if they want to end
up being backwards and poor. If they want to be
successful and rich with far lower taxes and jobs all
over the place, let data reign. The good news is
that there are plenty of other places that want them.
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If we kill the golden goose, you will only have
yourselves to blame. China could not be happier with this
anti data center movement.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Actually, they can't believe it is happening. President BJT. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I mean, Yeah, I know China seems to be fine
with their own policy of not needlessly wasting water to
fire up the meme maker machines.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
They have fewer data centers. They have like, you know,
hundreds of data centers instead of thousands. And they aren't
racing to build more. So it could be that they're
just like jealous of how awesome we are building data
centers for billionaire funding. Or it could be that this
country that has an advantage when it comes to robotics
(36:07):
seems to be catching up in AI while spending way
less money has the ability to do whatever the fuck
they want. Because they're not governed by public opinion, which
is bad, but they're not. They're just like, yeah, we'll
build data centers if we want to. Oh, you don't
want that? Get fucked. We'll disappear you, and you won't
even show up on Google image search anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
What kind of, like, 80s boomer mentality? This is like, oh, well,
you're against data centers? Well, China loves that, so I
hope you're happy. Yeah, it's the Russia, it's the Cold
War thing.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
What are you fucking talking about, bro? What kind of just.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
You're dusting off dumbass Sinophobic takes just to get people
to be like Fucking kill your own Land with the
data center Because.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You'll own China We're gonna be so rich Get in
loser We're gonna be so rich Unless you wanna be
backwards and poor hanging out eating at the table with
the kids playing magic the gathering like a loser if.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
We kill the goose you'll only have yourself it's interesting
though too because now it it's clear it's gotten to
trump to the point where he's like what the fuck
people are really pushing back against this like and they're
winning okay that's it guys look if we kill the
golden goose you're only gonna have yourselves to blame here
so he's on some level he's really acknowledging that the
(37:28):
influence of residents being up in arms by having these
nonsensical facilities near them.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Just explain like what, so show us in the data
centers that have been built so far, how it has
improved the communities that are around it, made everything better
for them. We'll wait right here.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
How am I supposed to be successful and rich when
I'm so fucking sleep deprived from the sound of a
data center next to my head?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Well, you'll get a good paying minimum wage job dumping
water on the data centers. Maybe I don't know. We
don't need you to do that. But yeah, it's just
China does not have a government where the main incentive
is trying to find ways to funnel money to rich people.
This is a great way to funnel money to rich people. 100%. Therefore,
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it is proliferating in the United States until people push
back and stop it from happening. Otherwise, it'll keep happening.
But other countries where that is not what the government
is designed to do, the government is not a wealth
redistribution machine for distributing money upward. They don't I don't
(38:38):
need these things that are just, don't create jobs, do
waste water, do create noise pollution, do harm the environment. Yeah,
they don't need them. It's not worth it to them.
Name some of the benefits now, Jack. You keep harping
on the cons. What about the pros? Data. I mean, data. Data, yeah.
(39:00):
So it's going to drive AI, which is the future. Oh,
I want to drive AI. Well, you can't do that.
China has the ability to drive AI. We do not
actually allow those cars to be sold here.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I hope you're happy because now China's driving AI and
you don't even get to sit shotgun.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay. Get in, loser. We're driving AI. We're driving AI. Okay.
All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
We'll talk about some other shit. and we're back we're
(39:40):
back you're back and uh in keeping with speculation of
how people are kissing Donald Trump's ass. Uh, we got
over the weekend, uh, an amazing example from Google, the
former do no evil company that just one day quietly
were like, sorry, we're, we're going to do a little evil.
(40:01):
That's not our motto anymore. Um, you can't, can't make
your motto something like so easy to like agree with
and then be just erase it and not have that
be suspicious as hell. But anyways, Google. So Donald Trump
in his trade war with Canada was like, we're changing
(40:22):
Lake Ontario to Lake America. And Google Maps just jumped
to it. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Mr. Trump, sir. And
for U.S. users on Google Maps, you will now see
it as Lake America, baby. The Great Lakes.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
It feels like instantly shitty when I hear that name.
Lake America, like, oh, that thing must be just filled
with old diapers.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
The color just immediately changes to shit brown. Right. As
of Sunday, Bing Maps haven't made the switch, but are
expected to, possibly affecting tens of users. MapQuest also wants
no part of this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, this is...
This is actually wild to me. Like, this is how
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our current system is set up, where, like, I remember...
at a time when people were like, well, it's good
that these companies are so big because they can stand
up to pressure from, you know, massive nations. And now
it's that, like, The more powerful the company, the less
they are willing to say no to powerful like countries
(41:32):
and other powerful people because they need to like stay
in Trump's good graces, like lest he get mad at
them and not continue to shower money on them. And
so only only a shit company that nobody uses anymore
is able to be like, hell no, man. We're MapQuest.
We stand for something. Fuck that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah. And I think, yeah, there's, uh, I forget who they're, there's, they're,
they're pressuring Apple to, to make sure they do it too.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
It's just, it's a, it's an all out. I think
they're all going to change except for map quest. Um,
but yeah, I mean, we, we've talked before about how
Google map way, I think it was back when they
changed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. Um,
that Google maps looks different in different regions to, uh,
according to them, organize the world's information. Um, but I
(42:22):
think they, they clearly rushed to appease Trump as quickly
as possible since even the government's geographic names, information system database,
which informs like which, you know, these maps are pulling from, uh,
had yet to make the switch as of Sunday when
they were like, yes, sir, here it is, sir. Um,
I do, this made me wonder, like, I think we will, uh,
(42:46):
like when there's finally good thorough reporting on this era
of corporations, just, you know, doing whatever they can to
appease Trump and make him happy and smile upon them
because it is the thing that is financially best for them. Like,
I feel like they have to have anywhere from like
(43:07):
a team to an entire department whose job is to
Customer service specifically for one cut for Donald Trump. You
know what I mean? They must have a team that
is thinking about ways to delight Donald Trump around the clock. Oh, yeah. Because,
you know, like they it would be the thing you
(43:28):
would do if you were like serious about your bottom line.
And like the looking at tariff rebates, like that's the,
this guy being an incompetent dipshit who favors corporations over
everything else, like has made them. I think, I think
I saw that it was like responsible for like 3%
(43:50):
of GDP growth over the, which there wasn't much to
go around. So it was like the main driver of
GDP growth in the last quarter was was just tariff
refunds to corporations. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I mean, this whole, like, the trade war, too, is
such an underrated aspect. This is potentially going to have ramifications, like,
on races in the midterms, which I think we'll talk
about on tomorrow's episode.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
But, like, man, just even, like, the sentiment with Canadian consumers, like,
I totally get it.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
They're like, what the fuck is wrong with these people, man? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
And, like, there was, like, a recent poll that was
done with Canadian consumers, and some people were like, yeah
dude like fuck anything with the if it's if it
even looks like usa on there like i'm fucking chucking
it in the trash or taking it to return it
at the.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Store just want to be states they just want to
be the 51st state.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Exactly that's all they want other people are a little
more like nuance and they're like well like you know
obviously like these companies that the products that i enjoy
and like the people that work there i don't want
to affect them i'm like oh you're Please, you don't
have to be so thoughtful and Canadian. Just go ahead
and skull fuck these companies with your boycotts.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
But yeah, I mean, that's just like a huge thing.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Like with the amount of trade that, you know, states
like Michigan or Maine does and just making things harder
and hostile and not thinking that's going to affect, you know,
the standing of your party, they're a bit stupid.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
A bit stupid. Yeah, I did. But if anybody knows,
if there's been reporting done on like how they approach
these decisions and like who is, who's making the decisions
to be like, like who, who within Google is like, guys,
we have a golden opportunity to please, to please hair furor. Um,
like let's be the first to do this even before he,
(45:44):
makes the official change in the database. Like I, yeah,
I want to know, sir. Yeah. I want to know
what that looks like because it's gotta be so pathetic. Um,
you know?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm sure it's the, that's like
the one time the CEOs like know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
They're like, yeah, man, I don't worry. I got this man.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I'll figure, I know how to, I know how to,
to please this tiny, insignificant human.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
How do you think I got to where I am?
By pleasing billionaires. I know, I know. And it's easy.
We don't have to think.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Just the second he says, I wish this happened, we're
just going to do it. And then we're going to
make a gold version of that and send it to him.
So we just sent him a gold Lake America chain
that he could just wear.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
And finally, Coyote vs. Acme came out over the weekend,
which is the... is like a space jam for legal thrillers.
It's a comedy. It's actually a comedy. This is a
movie that David Zasloff tried to kill off for tax purposes.
Because of the sex scene, right? And he was like, Guys,
(46:49):
we're all going to look away. You're all going to
avert your eyes while I watch this sex scene over
and over again. So there's no sex scene in this film.
There's a reference. I will not, never not tell this story.
If the opportunity comes up, there's a, you know, well-sourced
story about David Zaslav, you know, when he's taking over
(47:11):
one of the streaming companies that he's overseeing. Fleabag is
like one of their top movies, or maybe it wasn't
even theirs. But anyways, he's like, All right, guys, let's
all watch Fleabag together. And then pauses it because she's
jacking off to Obama, I think, in the first scene.
And he's like, all right, so here's the deal. We're
(47:31):
either going to stop this or we're going to watch it.
We're going to power through. And nobody looks at each
other the whole time. Everyone's like, wait, what?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Okay. And so he's like, and so we pressed play
and powered through and nobody noticed that I was furiously
jacking off the whole time. What a weird thing to
what a weird rule to set down on. while watching something, uh,
that has sexual content with other people. Got some weird
(48:04):
stuff going on for sure. I just need you to
not look at me. Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
It feels like some shit you say, like when you're
like a pubescent boy, you're like, Oh dude.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Me and the boys are all watching porn together. And
you're like, what's going on? What are we doing together?
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Watching this grainy porn from someone's cable black box.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Uh, and it would be like, all right, no one
be weird as we all stare at porn and just.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Still behind these curtains, poking my head out. I'm going
to go take a bath. Um, Anyways, it came out
and it did better than expected. Earned $ 15. 4 million domestically,
$ 23. 9 worldwide, which it's directed by David Green, who made
(48:51):
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Out of the Shadows and written
by the guy who wrote May December. I don't know
if it's a guy. Sami Birch, who wrote May December.
And based on a story by James Gunn and Jeremy Slater.
But it's got Will Forte, which anytime a movie stars
Will Forte, I'm on board. Yeah. Typically, you're going to
(49:14):
you're going to have laughs. You're going to have some laughs, baby. Um,
catch up entertainment, uh, is the distributor. They paid $ 50
million for the rights. Um, but Zasloff's tax write-off was
$ 30 million, meaning that the movie has already come close
to making the amount back, uh, that he was looking
(49:35):
to get from the tax write-off. from actual paying customers.
Just if he had just, you know, gone forward with
it and released it, he would have made more money.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Well, it was just a better time to cut losses
and anger people when we did the Zaslavian takeover.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
The Zaslavian way.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
It's crazy how he's just basically, with the Ellisons on
the scene, he's been able to kind of, like, sort
of uh enjoy a little bit of like obscurity at
the moment because everyone's focused even though he's part of
that whole takeover of uh our news and cable and
things like that but he must be loving.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
The one thing we know is that he likes people
not looking at him yeah so this is actually this
is great don't look away don't look at me all
right guys here's how we're gonna play this People are like, yeah,
I was in a boardroom with him. He came in, um,
(50:35):
and said, all right, guys, cards on the table. Here's
how we're going to play this for the next hour
and a half. You're going to negotiate with me and
you're not allowed to look at me. And no matter
how weird the sounds are that are coming from under
my desk, you're not allowed to look at me. Okay. Right.
And it was such an alpha move. Um, Anyways, uh,
(50:57):
the other big movie that came out that I was
kind of intrigued by, uh, was this Ridley Scott post-apocalyptic thriller.
The dog stars, um, only brought in $ 8 million, uh,
on an estimated 70 to $ 110 million budget. Um, it
just looked like such a middle of the road. Like I,
(51:20):
it looked so basic post-apocalyptic, you know, like there, there
wasn't any, I, I couldn't see anything in it that
I was like, oh, this is adding a new... I
guess the thing that it's adding is the person has
a plane, which is cool. But, you know, the first
Mad Max movie had a little flying helicopter thing. Yeah,
(51:41):
I guess it's just like.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Also, when you look at the marketing materials, I'm like, dude,
I don't know what the fuck this.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Like, it.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Doesn't say anything to you where you go, oh, this
is interesting. It's like the same, like... I don't know,
it looks pretty... bleak and pale wherever these guys are
with a gun in tattered clothes is this uh is
this somewhere in indiana i don't know what are we
looking if it's not indiana i'm out i'm out But yeah,
it's a shame.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
It's a shame.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
That also I knew nothing. I remember seeing the posters
and always being like, is this a joke?
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Like what? The dog stars? I think that was also
the title threw me. I'm like, is this a, is
there a dog in this? And where are they? I
think it would have done probably not, not great, but
it probably could have done fine if it got, if
it came out and was like a hundred percent on
Rotten Tomatoes and people are like, ah, Ridley Scott's done
it again. Right. But it came out and like, nobody
(52:34):
really noticed. thought it was good it's like in the
40s or 50s on metacritic and it it might indicate
that ridley scott like a thing that people like did
you watch napoleon no napoleon is like a very strange
movie like that joaquin phoenix is playing napoleon he's like
kind of sleepy the whole time and it's like it's
(52:55):
it's kind of interesting but it is also just a
little bit like What is happening here? It's very sleepy.
And that's what the reviews of this one are saying.
Gladiator 2, not sleepy at all. That movie was just crazy. Ridiculous.
That was so ridiculous. It was so ridiculous. I could.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
I was having trouble paying attention. Like, tracking everything. I
was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, I think those are his two. I think at
this point, you're either getting weirdly sleepy or, like, this
shit is... yeah like your brain on it goes house
of gucci napoleon gladiator 2 the dog stars it's like
every other one he's he's doing one for them as
in like put them to sleep and then one that
(53:43):
is like a fever dream that i had right right
right yeah yeah Anyway. All right. Those are some of
the things that are trending on this Monday, August 31st.
We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of
the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be
kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines while you still can.
Get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. Nope.
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And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
Bye. The Daily Zeitgeist is executive produced by Catherine Law.
Co-produced by Victor Wright. Co-written by J.M.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
McNabb.
Speaker 1 (54:14):
And edited and engineered by Brian Jeffries.
Yeah, but you almost always, are you thinking about coming
out of retirement? I keep reaching out. I keep reaching
out to all of these major universities and letting them
know that I still have four years of eligibility. Like I,
I get all those. When I was on the practice
squad for the Georgetown women's basketball team, that apparently like
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I had my lawyers look into it. That didn't count.
I could still play for you. Also, I barely remember
that because I was always so hungover, but fun times.
Great workout. Like, oh man, I hate posting that one
sweaty hungover guy. Yeah. They would fuck me up. Oh
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my God.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
His sweat just smells like a cork. Like not even
in a bad way.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
It's just so. It just authentically smells like a wine drenched. Yeah.
Not even a wine. It's like, that's a PD. It's PD.
That's pork. I'm smelling. Oh, sorry.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
I passed out face down in the bog last night. Ladies,
that's what you're smelling the bog on me. I think. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Passed out face down in a bog and didn't drown? No,
I just kind of absorbed the bog power. I breathed
through my ass. A different kind of Wade Boggs.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, yeah. Wade. I was doing a different. I was
doing the Wade Boggs challenge. which is apparently drinking 24
beers like wade boggs did it when he was playing
baseball but i thought it was i got drunk and
confused and thought it was waiting through a literal boggs.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah after that new cool song i wrote wade in
the bogger wade in the bog and then people didn't
like it but that was a good song just picturing
jack um like spiritual.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Just run my running stream of consciousness hung over commentary
the negro spiritual wade boggs did once claim he downed
over a hundred beers on a flight from boston to
l.a yeah that's a that's a classic It's like the
only thing I know. 100 beers. What? What? What a
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crazy clip. 100 beers on an airplane. Isn't that all
the beer on an airplane? I know, right? It's like, dude,
you drink literally all. We only bring 100 beers on there.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There's not that much room to store cans of beer
on a plane.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Are there eyewitnesses, or.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Is this just him being.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Like, I drank 100 beers on an airplane?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
I mean, Andre the Giant definitely did on a plane.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Well, there was, like, there was also that one restaurant
tab he ran up.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Like.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Andre the Giant. Yeah, like, those are at least, those
are documented.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Like, someone could be like, you don't know, I was there.
I wonder if, like, someone's... They were bringing him beers
on a forklift, you know? Yeah. Like, that's... Yeah. You
need a forklift to wait on that full. Like, that's their...
claiming to have drank 107 beers as a normal sized
human seems like it might be an exaggeration but it's
such a funny thing to like that is some uncle
(03:22):
rico shit to the yeah i drank 107 beers on
a single flight three how many hours that like five six.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Hours yeah yeah yeah between that's like a five five
so that's oh by the way logan to la somewhat
it's so funny in the red socks subreddit someone said
hey guys we all know wade boggs legendary drinker he
said i had the pleasure of sitting next to wade
boggs at a bar yeah it's a go.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Yeah i was reading the same thing and he claims
that he he he's like he would actually leave 20
percent left in the bottle so like he wasn't actually
finished which this was two years ago so wade boggs
is still fucking crushing it like still that's.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It's funny how Is he still crushing it or he's
still haunted by something he hasn't dealt with quite yet?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
That's 1,200 ounces of beer if he drank 100 beers
on one.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Wouldn't that kill you? That would definitely kill you, right?
Unless he has some weird... That's 75 pounds of beer.
I just have to call bullshit. an adolescent sized human
body worth of beer.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
I'm starting to think bullshit too, because where is that going?
Like you're literally getting on the plane and then getting
off 75 pounds heavier unless you're, doing a lot of
pissing oh.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
The pissing must have been absurd like he must have
just stayed pissing like it must have been like a
an actual fountain yeah just like non-stop extra large hefty
bag catheter yeah stood at the toilet while drinking the
100 beers anyways don't try that i would that that's
my takeaway from this i would not recommend anyone do
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the wade bog bogs challenge unless it's uh waiting in
an actual bog.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
We.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there is Mr.
Miles Gray. Coming out of retirement. Yeah, I decided coming
out of retirement. They said his workouts have been crazy.
Is this a story outside of Los Angeles? Aaron Donald
coming out of retirement. It was a national headline, which
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is why I even bothered to ask.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I was like, is this good that he's coming out
of retirement as someone who is notoriously ignorant about most
things NFL after 1998?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah. It's at least interesting. It'll be interesting to see
because he was so good. So top of his form,
Aaron Donald, when he retired. And he's been out for
three years, but people say he's still in tip-top. Tip-topper.
My name is Jack O'Brien. We said that. This is
the episode where we tell you what was trending over
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the weekend, what is trending on this Monday morning. But first,
we'd like to let you get to know us a
little bit better by telling you some things we think
are underrated, some things we think are overrated. Miles, what's
something you think is underrated?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Underrated, how kids nickname, kids make up names for things
that end up It's underrated how a kid's imagination can
also end up coming up with a curse word or
something I wouldn't say in public a lot.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
The thing being.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So Her Majesty went on a trip to visit a
friend and brought back the guy's child, like a little
school bus toy.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
Sure. And he was playing with it, and he started
calling it Bussy. Bussy. Yeah. And... I was like, wait, what?
He's like, say it again, say it again. He's like, yo,
where's my pussy? I was like, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on. Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Your buddy was like, oh, that's a fun name. He's like, yeah,
this is Bussy. And he's like, because it's different. There's
school bus, but this one's Bussy.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
You can't not react to that. And also, I'm not
trying to like... You're not made of steel. I'm not
showing my hand to him either. I don't want him to...
I'm not trying to be like, yo, what do you
call that shit? I was like, oh, yeah, okay, that's Bussy. Uh-huh.
And what else is going on with that? And I
was laughing so... I turned around and started laughing.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
And which made him more curious he's like why are
you laughing and i'm like i was like no sorry
i was thinking and i just had to do the
thing that you do as a parent where you just
have to make up some outline like oh sorry i
was thinking of a thing that uh you uncle jeremy
said like on the phone last week made me funny
that made me laugh don't worry it's not doing.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Bussy um anyways keep telling me about them yeah dude
just that's crazy bro the people can go in and
out of the back yeah and then just like being
like what's wrong with me i'm a fucking.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Adult But I just got the biggest kick out of
this organic.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Renaming of the toy. That means you're alive.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
And then I started laughing because then I had to
show Her Majesty the meme that Chris Crofton loves, which says, oh,
hell no, they burn in Spongebob's pussy.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
When it was like.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
The Macy's Day float that had the flame in the back.
And I was then explaining to her that Chris Crofton loves, like,
I just was, I was connected to so many things.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
I just kept laughing about. Um, but anyway, shout out
to Bob real gen, uh, you know, random thought generators.
They're great. Great for content. These fucking kids. I'll tell
you what, man. Yeah, exactly. All right. My underrated, uh, Uh,
I'm carrying this over from the Garfield notebook dump. You
missed the Garfield episode. You were, you're out of town, but, um,
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my underrated is India, the state of Indiana during the 1980s. Um,
which is something that this Garfield episode, uh, revealed to me. Um, because,
so I was talking about, so Jim Davis caught proud Indiana, Indianan, Indianian, um,
So is David, he went to college with David Letterman
(09:38):
at Ball State in Indiana and David Letterman is from Indianapolis.
And then we were talking in the Madonna episode about
how Michael Jackson was born in Indiana. Gary, yeah. Gary, Indiana.
So I'm just like, wow, Indiana was like holding down
the eighties. They had Letterman who like the Letterman show
(09:59):
that was like this cut edge comedy thing, like debuted
1980 thriller came out. 84 becomes the bestselling album of
all time. Garfield, fucking explodes. Like it starts in 80
or it starts in 78. And like by 81, it's
like seven of the 10 books on the bestsellers list.
(10:19):
It's crazy how much people fucked with Garfield. So then
I was thinking about it during the notebook dump. And
I was also like, Oh shit. Like John Cougar Mellencamp
was like the Springsteen for Indiana too. Yeah. Hurt. So good.
Jack and Diane, uh, pink houses. Like these are popular song,
(10:40):
like number one hits that are like portraits of life
in Indiana. Um, Axel Rose was from Indiana who locked
down the late eighties with paradise city. Um, and then
Blake in our conversation talked about how Bobby Knight and
Indiana university basketball was like dominant in 81 to 87.
And I started thinking about that. He also coached Michael
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Jordan to gold medal in 84 and, Started thinking about that.
And then I was like, oh shit, Larry Bird. Right.
French lick. The most associated with a state that I
have for a professional basketball player. And it was like
Bird vs. Magic was like the entire 80s. It was
like a crazy... And then the movie Hoosiers came out
(11:24):
in the 80s and is like, you know, a favorite of...
of people who are like Larry Bird and the Hoosiers
guy play basketball the right way, if you know what
I'm saying. Screaming. A Christmas story set in Indiana. The
thing that really, that I was like, oh shit, Indiana
Jones comes out in the 80s and is called Indiana
(11:45):
for no fucking reason. Right. Whatsoever. Right. And then, so
after I recorded it, I couldn't, like, I kept thinking
about Indiana shit that happened in the eighties. The, uh,
Lou Holtz and Notre Dame was like a big deal
in the eighties. But the thing that really, uh, that
I wanted to add to my Indiana was the center
of the world during the eighties is that stranger things.
(12:07):
I feel like a show that was supposed to be
emblematic of the entire decade of the eighties. And like,
I feel like that's the one thing they absolutely do
nail is like their ability to, uh, like really, you know,
nail the essence of the eighties is, is also set
in Indiana. So like, it's like people know something about
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the eighties in Indiana or like people in the eighties
were like, yeah, fucking India. Just name your character, Indiana.
And you got a hit on your hands.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It's fucking weird. He was just going to be called
Eric Jones. But then I'm like, just what about Indiana?
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah. Okay. Soy random. Yeah. And I have no good explanation,
which is why I like it. It's because it like
doesn't make any sense. It's just like randomly everything was
coming out of the, you know, 38th largest state in
the country. I love shit like that where you like can't.
explain exactly why it is, but it's just like, yeah,
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the zeitgeist, there's something happening on a deeper level that I,
you know, we can't put words to that for whatever reason. Yeah.
For whatever reason, everyone's like the center of the universe.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
The center of the universe is this random state above,
above Kentucky. What is something you think is overrated miles? Overrated, uh,
traditional elder care.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
You know, uh, takings your, your elderly loved ones to
like a convalescent home assisted living center. Uh, because you
got Costco and that's what I want to point out.
Every time I go to Costco, it's my favorite thing
to see the old discarded family members in the furniture
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section where they're like, you wait here, we're going to
go shopping. You just, disassociate, look into the middle distance
with these eight other elderly people who are on this
sectional couch with you that are also in a similar situation.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Just playing bridge.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
There's something amazing about like every, every time. And this must,
I'm wondering if this has to be a universal constant
because When you're shopping at Costco, you're typically buying in
volume or something because you're paying that unit price.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
You want that unit price to come down.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh, yeah. So I always see big family outings, but
it's just like there's something about just these cozy sections
in the middle part of Costco where there's a ton
of furniture.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
There's a bed if you even want to lay down. Yeah.
Just lay down. Test that out for two to three hours. Yeah.
But I think there's just something. There's something. Great. I
don't know. There's something heartwarming to me.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Because it reminds me of when I used to take
my grandma to the grocery store, but she was so old.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
We were like, bro, just sit here by the flowers.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Because we want to get you out of the house. Yeah.
You like flowers?
Speaker 2 (15:01):
You're not going to do the 45-minute walk around and
put in shit. It's like, sit right there and enjoy.
Take your family to Costco. There's food around. There's plenty
of people. Someone's going to have an eye on them.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, drop by every couple hours with some free samples
for them.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Armful of little mini hot dogs, whatever they got out
on that little hot plate.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Go out there.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But Costco, I honestly think you might have a new
business model you can tap into.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I could definitely see them doing end of life. That's
the thing that happens in, I think, the last season
of Succession, right? Where they're like, we're going to pivot
to end of life care. Oh yeah. Like city of
the future for the elderly. Well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Cause people just see just, they're like, Oh, here's an
entire market. That's about to just emerge all at once
in the next right now to 10 years from now.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
But yeah, I just, I love the, I just love the,
there's an honesty about all of the old people who
are just left there while their families shop. And they're just,
they're not even using phones. They're not even reading. They're
just like purely on pause just right there.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Yeah. Love to see it. You can watch whatever they're
showing on the TV displays in the TV section.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
The one that I go to, the TVs are kind
of off in another... Too far away. They're chilling inside
their own heads.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah. Comfortably.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Comfortably. It's a little bleak, but... Yeah, well, you know.
Depends on... Yeah. I'll try to put a positive spin
on it when I see it. Late stage capitalism. I
can't afford... the end of life care, but I can't
afford this cost code card. And I can't afford to
let you sit on this wonderful. Goddamn. That's comfy. Is
(16:45):
this micro suede? Wow. It's vegan, huh? Okay. Shit breathes. Um,
all right. My overrated also kind of related to the elderly, um,
is blue zones, which is a thing that I totally
fell for. You know, I, I, It's a fairly straightforward premise.
(17:06):
It's funny.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I didn't have this myth busted for me until, I'm
not joking, 10 days ago.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Oh, really?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
When I was on my trip and a friend brought up,
they're like, you know, blue zones are bullshit, right?
Speaker 1 (17:15):
I was like, what? No.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
No. I saw so many infomercials about people in the
blue zones diet and that's how.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
They live forever. So the three famous ones are Sardinia, Okinawa,
and Loma Linda in California. And I lived in Loma
Linda for... About a month and a half while my
wife was doing a medical rotation. And so I thought
that that was going to convey on me. I was like, well,
(17:44):
that month and a half didn't count. Well, you didn't
age for sure. Yeah, I did not age. Uh, so
there's a book by a fucking statistician, uh, called morbid debunking,
modern longevity science, blue, uh, Oxford researcher named Saul, Justin Newman.
And he is looking into, uh, Like a lot of
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these cases where people will be like, yeah, this person
lived to 116. What's their secret? And both in the
individual cases and in the blue zone cases, he's like,
usually their secret is they don't have a birth certificate. Yeah.
And so they're able to just say however old they
want to be. And the media is like, oh, hell yeah,
(18:30):
we got a story, folks. And I respect my elders.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
How old are you?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I got to be like 105 at this point. He
was 88. But he looks into blue zones. And so
it started with a statistician looking into... The fact that
there are like more hundred year olds in Sardinia than
other places. And I didn't read, but I read a
New Yorker summary of the book and they don't get
into any debunking of Sardinia. So that one might be valid.
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But what happens, how it goes from this one place
seems to have like very long lived people who more
frequently than others make it to 100. How it goes
from that to like, there are certain regions in the
world that have this magical property was a national geographic
article that came out the next year. Those like, okay, well,
(19:19):
how about we build on that? Let's turn this thought
out statistical research into a Buzzfeed article, the print journalism
equivalent of a Buzzfeed article. And the author of that
Nat Geo article trademarked the term started suing people if
they sold anything that had mentioned blue zones. Wow. Made
(19:43):
millions of dollars issuing municipalities blue Zones stamps of approval.
Went on to write best-selling books about Blue Zones, offer
cooking classes... speaking fees, found a company that made millions
of dollars. And yeah, it's just, you know, the way
that shit in America works, where it's just like there's
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money to be made. And so we will exploit a loophole.
But in terms of the writing of the article, Loma
Linda was included because his uh, editor was like, we
got to have an American one or like this thing's not,
and people aren't going to give a shit. Oh my God.
That's how they ended. Yeah. Linda, California ended up in there.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
So, I mean, I think Loma Linda is slightly like
has a elevated, uh, length of life, but it's not
like this magical place where everybody's a hundred years old. Uh,
it's a place where, you know, due to the it's
seventh day Adventists. And so there are all, um, vegetarians.
So that can be helpful. Um, but, uh, Okinawa is
(20:50):
wild because I didn't realize this. Uh, so it says
among Japanese prefectures, uh, okinawa ranks first in consumption of
kfc and last in consumption of seafood sweet potatoes and
leafy greens uh its residents have japan's highest average body
mass index more than a third of okinawan men's smoke
um and some books about blue zones encourage people to
(21:12):
drink two glasses of red wine a day but okinawans
drink like tons of beer yeah and so what are
you on Yeah. And so they were like, so I
don't know, I guess you gotta eat KFC smoke and
drink beer. And they think that it goes back to
the fact that there was a devastating American bombing campaign
during the second world war that destroyed the infrastructure and
(21:35):
all its civil records. Um, and so Jesus Christ. So
it was just like, I don't know, most vibes. So
it just has fewer civil records and like birth certificates
for people who are currently, uh, hitting this age. And
then there's also the fact that, um, people can't, you
can collect money like at a certain age and at various,
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like in various countries. Um, he tells a story that
I think I remember from the news that they went in,
in Japan on the, uh, respect for the aged day
in 2010, Japanese officials went to the home of a
Tokyo man, uh, to congratulate him on living to 111,
and they found a mummified corpse in his bedroom, and
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he'd been dead for three decades, and his family had
just been collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars in pension money.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Hold on, let me check on him really quick.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah he's all right he's good he's doing all right
which also does put the mitch mcconnell thing into perspective
like you can pull that shit off for.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
A while i remember i think like a year ago
we talked about a lady who brought in a corpse
on a wheelchair to sign a check at a bank
yeah and then they're like lady this is a dead
body this is not a sleepy man this is a
corpse oh man it's funny my birthday is uh respect
for the elderly day oh really september.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
15th yeah god damn that's why you've always respected the
elders and brought them to.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Costco and i i deny them the peace of of
laying being laid to rest and just doing social security
scams that's right.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Yep yep yep but yeah i don't know but that
i that totally got my ass i was like i
gotta live like The people in Loma Linda and Okinawa
to eat this KFC. Shout out Yum Brands. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
But to have a new zone with me, how'd this
guy eat all this Taco Bell.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
And live to 48? The Wade Boggs zone. People are
able to drink over a hundred beers.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
They're saying it's like, it's kind of like his hitting
map where it's like, you don't want to pitch to
Wade Boggs in the Wade Boggs zone, but then you
map that over earth.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
These are the spots you want to live. All right,
let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk
about some news. We'll be right back. And we're back.
We're back. Hey, and speaking of media scams, we're learning
(24:15):
that the Pentagon, I mean, we kind of had a
sense that the Pentagon was colluding with right-wing influencers when
they when they uh their entire press corps became comprised
of right-wing influencers yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
There's like the one guy in the clan outfit um
with the with the all over print american flag clan
costume there was uh laura loomer you know just all
kinds of really fun people who top not i'm joking
about the clan person but It feels like a real
character that we would eventually see in this idiocracy.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I was willing to believe that that was somebody who
would be... It's just so funny. You see that press pool?
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It's just a guy in an American flag, KKK outfit, like, uh, Mr.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Secretary, Secretary, uh, yes, yes. People are asking why you're
so based. Um, so anyway. I assumed that that was
happening at a, like, Production level like, oh, well, we're
giving them access and that's all journalists seek is access.
I did not know that they were on the fucking payroll.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, well, there's definitely some we've now found are just
straight up.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Like, they're employees of the Pentagon. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
And it's funny, too, because, like, right-wing pundits, like, they
always love to call people feds.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
They're like, no, that guy's not a real, that guy's
a fed. He's like, he's not a real Republican. That
guy's a fed. The government's making him do that. Like, well, shit.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Every accusation can be a confession because the Washington Post
revealed that Pete Hegseth is employing these pundits to push
his agenda in public against this backdrop right now, right? Where, like,
Iran just struck some more military infrastructure, and now Trump
is like, we're going to hit back. We're continuing to
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spiral downward in this failed military campaign. So yeah, it
makes sense that he wants to pay people to get
out there and be like, hey man, talk up how
I'm good, and this is all necessary.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
This is from the Washington Post.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Quote, the Pentagon has secretly installed several conservative military veterans
with large online followings in government roles, declining to disclose
their assignments as they amplify Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's viewpoints
and attack those who scrutinize the administration. At least some
of the influencers have been assigned to civilian roles that
could lead to changes in policy. Neither the Pentagon nor
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those involved have disclosed the government roles, despite the Trump
administration's claims that they are running the most transparent defense
department ever. Um, some of these people, like I've heard,
like not really heard of, cause I'm not on military
Twitter that much. One guy, this guy, Kurt Schlichter, he
is like a retired military, uh, air force Colonel and,
(26:53):
or army Colonel. And he is always out here saying wild,
just nonsense stuff. He's like, when, when Scalia dies, like
there's going to be a civil war cause Scalia is dead. Um,
and last week, against all the talk about the trade
war with Canada, he decided to anthropomorphize Canada in an
(27:15):
op-ed where he said that, A, Canadians need to submit
to Trump in the trade war because we're better. And
he also said if Canada were a woman, she would
be a, quote, fugly, sexually dysfunctional wine woman with a
hate-has-no-home-here sign on the front lawn of the condo It
shares with five cats, all named after characters in Twilight.
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Americans don't think much of Canada, literally.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
We don't think of you.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Anyway, so this is, yeah, these are the kinds of just,
you know, galaxy-brained rhetoricians they've got on the payroll now.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I like that his, like, wild... you know, anthropomorphization of, like,
the worst thing he could imagine is somebody with a
hate has no home here. Yeah. Is that bad?
Speaker 2 (28:08):
They're so, like, just not in the real world anymore.
Everything reflexively is like, it's like a lib woman.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
Right. That's the worst thing you could be. A woman
with cats.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
And you don't think hate has any place in our society?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
So what is the He's like, I'd prefer a man
who says, hate fucking lives here with a bunch of
dogs that he feeds Miller Lite.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
That's America. That's what I want to be around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
The Pentagon has said that this is all, they accuse
the Post.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Of leaking classified information. That's what they do every time.
They say this is bullshit and also how you get
this classified information. Also, this is illegal.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
And also, you're not allowed to have this information that
is classified and also totally not true. How'd you get
this fake information? How'd you get this fake information that
you're not allowed to have because you're not allowed to
have it? I did have the question, and this is
just an indication of where we're at. I was like, damn,
is the Washington Post allowed to say that? That person's
(29:15):
going to get in trouble. Are you fired, dude? You're
getting fired for doing journalism? You're going to be in
so much trouble, dude. You can't do journalism like that.
Not there, dude. You ain't on Substack? God damn.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
I think that's where they kind of, you know, they
still do have people doing journalism. I'm sure they just
have to be like, look, man, okay, you can't do
like another piece like that for like six months.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They just do the, they launder. the
Trump bait, the, like, Trump-pleasing articles through the op-ed section. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
And stuff, too, like, where they might, it's easier to
go after people in the cabinet than full frontal attack
on Trump and just be more like, Pete Hegseth's doing what?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
All right. we have an update on, uh, the story
of freedom fuel. Yeah. Which, uh, as we, as we
covered gas prices have not gone down as promised, uh,
in the, in the aftermath of the aftermath. Yeah. The,
You know, once Trump got his sweet ceasefire that never happened.
(30:21):
And in fact, they've gone up except for in one
place where they sell freedom fuel. Is it are they
still doing the same pricing based on like Trump, like 47?
It's just lower. I know they're just keeping it on average.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It's the cheapest fuel around if you're in Pennsylvania or
New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
It's like the two states where these things exist. New Jersey,
where you can't even pump your own gas. They make
somebody pump it for you. That's how expensive the gas
is in New Jersey.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
I mean, I think the second this story came out,
everyone's first question was like, okay, who the fuck owns this?
Speaker 1 (30:59):
And then we're like, okay, we've connected to it. It's
a billionaire trying to do favors for Trump.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, and another dude who owns some gas stations, again,
with connections to Trump world. The second part was like,
where the fuck are they getting this gas on the cheap?
Or are they just self-owning by completely... Saying like, all right,
we'll eat this deer leader for you give us some
kind of sweet deal down the road.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Well, a new lawsuit may help answer that.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Oil supplier Mansfield Oil Company, this is from the New Republic,
sued a company that provided gas to Freedom Fuel, KRSM Inc.,
for acquiring over 1.1 million gallons of fuel worth about
$ 4 million.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Without paying for it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
According to the lawsuit, KRSM hadn't paid for the fuel
as of August 17th, despite getting the fuel from Mansfield
between May 21st and July 7th, which lines up to
when we saw the Freedom Fuels even be unveiled by
Trump around.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
4th of July.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
KRSM sold a, quote, portion of the fuel it acquired
to Freedom Fuel stations. We don't know how big a
portion that is, but Mansfield alleges in the lawsuit that
KRSM sold discounted fuel to Freedom Fuel, and was able to, quote,
garner such publicity because he, quote, never paid for it.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Oh, that's a good way to do it. Like, I
haven't been trying that because I've been paying, like, I've
been getting gas that's very expensive in my non-electric vehicle. Wait,
you're paying for it? So, yeah, yeah, I was paying
for it. That's your problem. You're paying for it. No, no, no, no, no.
Just steal it. Just steal it. Just don't pay for it.
(32:34):
Just don't. With this one trick, they don't want you
to know. We did. When we were talking about this before,
we were like, yeah, you know, it's probably some sort
of quid pro quo where, like, the person, they got
a wealthy investor to, like, pay for all the money
or pay for all the gas up front, and then, like,
they're getting some payoff down the line. But then we
(32:55):
were also like, that does seem like a little bit too...
sophisticated for trump like there's got to be something else
like very very stupid like his schemes tend to be
much stupider than that yeah it's uh steal the gas
yeah it's just don't never pay for it don't and
then ask for uh him to bail you out yeah which.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yep yeah yep i think maybe that's i think that's
probably what happens right they go uh mr president mansfield
oil's real They keep talking about how we stole the gas,
you know, like the thing you told us to do.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Like, what do you do? Yeah, that'd be fine. We'll just...
I'll stop it. Don't worry. Just keep on freedoming. Freedom
that fuel. So the freedom fuel was free to the... Yeah. Goddamn.
To the owners. Very revolutionary. Yeah. In many ways. Absolutely.
Hell yeah, dog. All right. And speaking of Donald Trump,
(33:50):
he does have... The way to get, you know, we've
been talking about how data centers have become very unpopular
and everyone's mad at them. You know, thanks to we
were talking last week about how the. a lot of
the backlash against data centers, which, uh, bring nobody any
(34:12):
benefits except for the billionaires who are building them, how
the entire, all the negative feelings about those are being
seeded in the American public by, uh, a Chinese propaganda campaign. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
It has to be, was their theory of the case. Um, anyways,
Donald Trump has, has a solution. He he's figured out
how to pitch the stuff, baby.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
I wasn't sure how this senile bastard was going to
pull off a rhetorical masterstroke and convince Americans that shitty
data centers are good and needed.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
But he's only gone and done it, Jack. He posted
on Truth Social. Oh, nah. Hell nah, man. Trump's gone
and done it.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Quote, the only reason that communities throughout the USA should
not want data centers is if they want to end
up being backwards and poor. If they want to be
successful and rich with far lower taxes and jobs all
over the place, let data reign. The good news is
that there are plenty of other places that want them.
(35:16):
If we kill the golden goose, you will only have
yourselves to blame. China could not be happier with this
anti data center movement.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Actually, they can't believe it is happening. President BJT. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
I mean, Yeah, I know China seems to be fine
with their own policy of not needlessly wasting water to
fire up the meme maker machines.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
They have fewer data centers. They have like, you know,
hundreds of data centers instead of thousands. And they aren't
racing to build more. So it could be that they're
just like jealous of how awesome we are building data
centers for billionaire funding. Or it could be that this
country that has an advantage when it comes to robotics
(36:07):
seems to be catching up in AI while spending way
less money has the ability to do whatever the fuck
they want. Because they're not governed by public opinion, which
is bad, but they're not. They're just like, yeah, we'll
build data centers if we want to. Oh, you don't
want that? Get fucked. We'll disappear you, and you won't
even show up on Google image search anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
What kind of, like, 80s boomer mentality? This is like, oh, well,
you're against data centers? Well, China loves that, so I
hope you're happy. Yeah, it's the Russia, it's the Cold
War thing.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
What are you fucking talking about, bro? What kind of just.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
You're dusting off dumbass Sinophobic takes just to get people
to be like Fucking kill your own Land with the
data center Because.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You'll own China We're gonna be so rich Get in
loser We're gonna be so rich Unless you wanna be
backwards and poor hanging out eating at the table with
the kids playing magic the gathering like a loser if.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
We kill the goose you'll only have yourself it's interesting
though too because now it it's clear it's gotten to
trump to the point where he's like what the fuck
people are really pushing back against this like and they're
winning okay that's it guys look if we kill the
golden goose you're only gonna have yourselves to blame here
so he's on some level he's really acknowledging that the
(37:28):
influence of residents being up in arms by having these
nonsensical facilities near them.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
Just explain like what, so show us in the data
centers that have been built so far, how it has
improved the communities that are around it, made everything better
for them. We'll wait right here.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
How am I supposed to be successful and rich when
I'm so fucking sleep deprived from the sound of a
data center next to my head?
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Well, you'll get a good paying minimum wage job dumping
water on the data centers. Maybe I don't know. We
don't need you to do that. But yeah, it's just
China does not have a government where the main incentive
is trying to find ways to funnel money to rich people.
This is a great way to funnel money to rich people. 100%. Therefore,
(38:16):
it is proliferating in the United States until people push
back and stop it from happening. Otherwise, it'll keep happening.
But other countries where that is not what the government
is designed to do, the government is not a wealth
redistribution machine for distributing money upward. They don't I don't
(38:38):
need these things that are just, don't create jobs, do
waste water, do create noise pollution, do harm the environment. Yeah,
they don't need them. It's not worth it to them.
Name some of the benefits now, Jack. You keep harping
on the cons. What about the pros? Data. I mean, data. Data, yeah.
(39:00):
So it's going to drive AI, which is the future. Oh,
I want to drive AI. Well, you can't do that.
China has the ability to drive AI. We do not
actually allow those cars to be sold here.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I hope you're happy because now China's driving AI and
you don't even get to sit shotgun.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Okay. Get in, loser. We're driving AI. We're driving AI. Okay.
All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
We'll talk about some other shit. and we're back we're
(39:40):
back you're back and uh in keeping with speculation of
how people are kissing Donald Trump's ass. Uh, we got
over the weekend, uh, an amazing example from Google, the
former do no evil company that just one day quietly
were like, sorry, we're, we're going to do a little evil.
(40:01):
That's not our motto anymore. Um, you can't, can't make
your motto something like so easy to like agree with
and then be just erase it and not have that
be suspicious as hell. But anyways, Google. So Donald Trump
in his trade war with Canada was like, we're changing
(40:22):
Lake Ontario to Lake America. And Google Maps just jumped
to it. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Mr. Trump, sir. And
for U.S. users on Google Maps, you will now see
it as Lake America, baby. The Great Lakes.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
It feels like instantly shitty when I hear that name.
Lake America, like, oh, that thing must be just filled
with old diapers.
Speaker 1 (40:49):
The color just immediately changes to shit brown. Right. As
of Sunday, Bing Maps haven't made the switch, but are
expected to, possibly affecting tens of users. MapQuest also wants
no part of this shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, this is...
This is actually wild to me. Like, this is how
(41:10):
our current system is set up, where, like, I remember...
at a time when people were like, well, it's good
that these companies are so big because they can stand
up to pressure from, you know, massive nations. And now
it's that, like, The more powerful the company, the less
they are willing to say no to powerful like countries
(41:32):
and other powerful people because they need to like stay
in Trump's good graces, like lest he get mad at
them and not continue to shower money on them. And
so only only a shit company that nobody uses anymore
is able to be like, hell no, man. We're MapQuest.
We stand for something. Fuck that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah. And I think, yeah, there's, uh, I forget who they're, there's, they're,
they're pressuring Apple to, to make sure they do it too.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
It's just, it's a, it's an all out. I think
they're all going to change except for map quest. Um,
but yeah, I mean, we, we've talked before about how
Google map way, I think it was back when they
changed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America. Um,
that Google maps looks different in different regions to, uh,
according to them, organize the world's information. Um, but I
(42:22):
think they, they clearly rushed to appease Trump as quickly
as possible since even the government's geographic names, information system database,
which informs like which, you know, these maps are pulling from, uh,
had yet to make the switch as of Sunday when
they were like, yes, sir, here it is, sir. Um,
I do, this made me wonder, like, I think we will, uh,
(42:46):
like when there's finally good thorough reporting on this era
of corporations, just, you know, doing whatever they can to
appease Trump and make him happy and smile upon them
because it is the thing that is financially best for them. Like,
I feel like they have to have anywhere from like
(43:07):
a team to an entire department whose job is to
Customer service specifically for one cut for Donald Trump. You
know what I mean? They must have a team that
is thinking about ways to delight Donald Trump around the clock. Oh, yeah. Because,
you know, like they it would be the thing you
(43:28):
would do if you were like serious about your bottom line.
And like the looking at tariff rebates, like that's the,
this guy being an incompetent dipshit who favors corporations over
everything else, like has made them. I think, I think
I saw that it was like responsible for like 3%
(43:50):
of GDP growth over the, which there wasn't much to
go around. So it was like the main driver of
GDP growth in the last quarter was was just tariff
refunds to corporations. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
I mean, this whole, like, the trade war, too, is
such an underrated aspect. This is potentially going to have ramifications, like,
on races in the midterms, which I think we'll talk
about on tomorrow's episode.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
But, like, man, just even, like, the sentiment with Canadian consumers, like,
I totally get it.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
They're like, what the fuck is wrong with these people, man? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
And, like, there was, like, a recent poll that was
done with Canadian consumers, and some people were like, yeah
dude like fuck anything with the if it's if it
even looks like usa on there like i'm fucking chucking
it in the trash or taking it to return it
at the.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Store just want to be states they just want to
be the 51st state.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
Exactly that's all they want other people are a little
more like nuance and they're like well like you know
obviously like these companies that the products that i enjoy
and like the people that work there i don't want
to affect them i'm like oh you're Please, you don't
have to be so thoughtful and Canadian. Just go ahead
and skull fuck these companies with your boycotts.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
But yeah, I mean, that's just like a huge thing.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
Like with the amount of trade that, you know, states
like Michigan or Maine does and just making things harder
and hostile and not thinking that's going to affect, you know,
the standing of your party, they're a bit stupid.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
A bit stupid. Yeah, I did. But if anybody knows,
if there's been reporting done on like how they approach
these decisions and like who is, who's making the decisions
to be like, like who, who within Google is like, guys,
we have a golden opportunity to please, to please hair furor. Um,
like let's be the first to do this even before he,
(45:44):
makes the official change in the database. Like I, yeah,
I want to know, sir. Yeah. I want to know
what that looks like because it's gotta be so pathetic. Um,
you know?
Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm sure it's the, that's like
the one time the CEOs like know what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (46:00):
They're like, yeah, man, I don't worry. I got this man.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I'll figure, I know how to, I know how to,
to please this tiny, insignificant human.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
How do you think I got to where I am?
By pleasing billionaires. I know, I know. And it's easy.
We don't have to think.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Just the second he says, I wish this happened, we're
just going to do it. And then we're going to
make a gold version of that and send it to him.
So we just sent him a gold Lake America chain
that he could just wear.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
And finally, Coyote vs. Acme came out over the weekend,
which is the... is like a space jam for legal thrillers.
It's a comedy. It's actually a comedy. This is a
movie that David Zasloff tried to kill off for tax purposes.
Because of the sex scene, right? And he was like, Guys,
(46:49):
we're all going to look away. You're all going to
avert your eyes while I watch this sex scene over
and over again. So there's no sex scene in this film.
There's a reference. I will not, never not tell this story.
If the opportunity comes up, there's a, you know, well-sourced
story about David Zaslav, you know, when he's taking over
(47:11):
one of the streaming companies that he's overseeing. Fleabag is
like one of their top movies, or maybe it wasn't
even theirs. But anyways, he's like, All right, guys, let's
all watch Fleabag together. And then pauses it because she's
jacking off to Obama, I think, in the first scene.
And he's like, all right, so here's the deal. We're
(47:31):
either going to stop this or we're going to watch it.
We're going to power through. And nobody looks at each
other the whole time. Everyone's like, wait, what?
Speaker 2 (47:41):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Okay. And so he's like, and so we pressed play
and powered through and nobody noticed that I was furiously
jacking off the whole time. What a weird thing to
what a weird rule to set down on. while watching something, uh,
that has sexual content with other people. Got some weird
(48:04):
stuff going on for sure. I just need you to
not look at me. Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
It feels like some shit you say, like when you're
like a pubescent boy, you're like, Oh dude.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
Me and the boys are all watching porn together. And
you're like, what's going on? What are we doing together?
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Watching this grainy porn from someone's cable black box.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Uh, and it would be like, all right, no one
be weird as we all stare at porn and just.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Still behind these curtains, poking my head out. I'm going
to go take a bath. Um, Anyways, it came out
and it did better than expected. Earned $ 15. 4 million domestically,
$ 23. 9 worldwide, which it's directed by David Green, who made
(48:51):
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Out of the Shadows and written
by the guy who wrote May December. I don't know
if it's a guy. Sami Birch, who wrote May December.
And based on a story by James Gunn and Jeremy Slater.
But it's got Will Forte, which anytime a movie stars
Will Forte, I'm on board. Yeah. Typically, you're going to
(49:14):
you're going to have laughs. You're going to have some laughs, baby. Um,
catch up entertainment, uh, is the distributor. They paid $ 50
million for the rights. Um, but Zasloff's tax write-off was
$ 30 million, meaning that the movie has already come close
to making the amount back, uh, that he was looking
(49:35):
to get from the tax write-off. from actual paying customers.
Just if he had just, you know, gone forward with
it and released it, he would have made more money.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
Well, it was just a better time to cut losses
and anger people when we did the Zaslavian takeover.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
The Zaslavian way.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
It's crazy how he's just basically, with the Ellisons on
the scene, he's been able to kind of, like, sort
of uh enjoy a little bit of like obscurity at
the moment because everyone's focused even though he's part of
that whole takeover of uh our news and cable and
things like that but he must be loving.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
The one thing we know is that he likes people
not looking at him yeah so this is actually this
is great don't look away don't look at me all
right guys here's how we're gonna play this People are like, yeah,
I was in a boardroom with him. He came in, um,
(50:35):
and said, all right, guys, cards on the table. Here's
how we're going to play this for the next hour
and a half. You're going to negotiate with me and
you're not allowed to look at me. And no matter
how weird the sounds are that are coming from under
my desk, you're not allowed to look at me. Okay. Right.
And it was such an alpha move. Um, Anyways, uh,
(50:57):
the other big movie that came out that I was
kind of intrigued by, uh, was this Ridley Scott post-apocalyptic thriller.
The dog stars, um, only brought in $ 8 million, uh,
on an estimated 70 to $ 110 million budget. Um, it
just looked like such a middle of the road. Like I,
(51:20):
it looked so basic post-apocalyptic, you know, like there, there
wasn't any, I, I couldn't see anything in it that
I was like, oh, this is adding a new... I
guess the thing that it's adding is the person has
a plane, which is cool. But, you know, the first
Mad Max movie had a little flying helicopter thing. Yeah,
(51:41):
I guess it's just like.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Also, when you look at the marketing materials, I'm like, dude,
I don't know what the fuck this.
Speaker 1 (51:47):
Like, it.
Speaker 2 (51:47):
Doesn't say anything to you where you go, oh, this
is interesting. It's like the same, like... I don't know,
it looks pretty... bleak and pale wherever these guys are
with a gun in tattered clothes is this uh is
this somewhere in indiana i don't know what are we
looking if it's not indiana i'm out i'm out But yeah,
it's a shame.
Speaker 1 (52:08):
It's a shame.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
That also I knew nothing. I remember seeing the posters
and always being like, is this a joke?
Speaker 1 (52:13):
Like what? The dog stars? I think that was also
the title threw me. I'm like, is this a, is
there a dog in this? And where are they? I
think it would have done probably not, not great, but
it probably could have done fine if it got, if
it came out and was like a hundred percent on
Rotten Tomatoes and people are like, ah, Ridley Scott's done
it again. Right. But it came out and like, nobody
(52:34):
really noticed. thought it was good it's like in the
40s or 50s on metacritic and it it might indicate
that ridley scott like a thing that people like did
you watch napoleon no napoleon is like a very strange
movie like that joaquin phoenix is playing napoleon he's like
kind of sleepy the whole time and it's like it's
(52:55):
it's kind of interesting but it is also just a
little bit like What is happening here? It's very sleepy.
And that's what the reviews of this one are saying.
Gladiator 2, not sleepy at all. That movie was just crazy. Ridiculous.
That was so ridiculous. It was so ridiculous. I could.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
I was having trouble paying attention. Like, tracking everything. I
was like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, I think those are his two. I think at
this point, you're either getting weirdly sleepy or, like, this
shit is... yeah like your brain on it goes house
of gucci napoleon gladiator 2 the dog stars it's like
every other one he's he's doing one for them as
in like put them to sleep and then one that
(53:43):
is like a fever dream that i had right right
right yeah yeah Anyway. All right. Those are some of
the things that are trending on this Monday, August 31st.
We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of
the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be
kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines while you still can.
Get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. Nope.
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Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.
Dateline NBC
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