Curse of Mamdani, Time Travel Conspiracy Theories 04.28.26

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Jaquis and I on yesterday's episode we were recording, we're
talking about Missus Doubtfire. Is that one of the pieces
of nineties culture that you're roasting on your core?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It isn't only because I feel like there's been a
lot of coverage on the things that don't work, you know,
in that movie. So I feel like it's been covered
pretty well. But it is crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
It's a wild movie. Yeah, we just think it should
have They should have never It should have just been
misdoubt Fire, like the way that Medea is just Medea.
Like Robin Williams should have just played a character named
Missus doubt Fire.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
There's a lot of fun, no father story, no fire, yeah,
no sadness, no divorce.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
It's just like, what if Missus Doubtfire rocked and was
the best nanny of all time?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Because it's like, oh, there's this terrible father under all this.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
We don't want that. Yeah, exactly. This guy can't even
get his ship together enough to like order Chinese food.
Oh No.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
So the older I get and the more I'm like, yeah, man,
I could see why she was pissed when she came home.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yes, that is a movie that like was made for
men by men and doesn't fully work because it's just
like they're expecting men to be like, yeah, man, what's
her problem? And then you like see it and it's like, oh,
I think the rest of the people who were in
charge of making this like snuck in some some details

(01:34):
that it's like, oh, yeah, they're the you're the bad guy.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Oh totally. And I mean you think it's like a
movie of the time, but now we have this movie
coming out with Nate Bargatzi that's like this Dad who
can't Dad?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
You know, would you imagine Dad was in charge? Could
you fucking imagine how crazy create?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
What a crazy premose?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
And yet I think it's gonna work really.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Out.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four thirty six,
Episode two of Dirtilly's Eikegeist. The long awaited season four
thirty six. They say this is when when the show
gets good. It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast
where we take a deep dive into americans shared consciousness
through the day's news. We also have a new non

(02:28):
news history version of The Daily ess eeke Ice dropping
each Monday morning, where you do a deep dive into
the Zeikeeist through the lens of a different icon. This
week we got Carrie Fisher, Oh my, so much talent,
so much, so many good quotes, so many drugs shot,
a shocking amount of drugs. I knew they did cocaine

(02:50):
on the Ice Planet and Empire strikes back. I did
not know that that cocaine on the Ice Planet was
the tip of the proverbial cocaine Iceberg. So check that
one out. It's super fun and it's with Jamie Loftus
and Caitlin Dorante.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Fucking goodness, huge guest stars, all stars.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
It is currently as we record this, and I would
not lie to you about this. It is Tuesday, April
twenty eighth, twenty twenty six. And yes that means my
name is Jack O'Brien aka body like a flip, Body
like a flip phone, Body like a flip, body like
a flip phone. That is by courtesy of Paul gar

(03:32):
Event on the Discord in reference to last Friday's episode,
I believe when we had Jamie Loftus on guest co hosting,
Molly Lambert was the guest and we were talking about
when they tell you and yoga to like roll up
one vertebrae at a time, and I don't like that's
a fictional thing to me. I'm my body is. My

(03:55):
body has one place that it bends, and it's in
the middle. And I can like bend over the like
that and bend back. And I said, my bie, I'm
built like a flip phone. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be
joined in our second seat by today's guest co host,
the host of the Truly Great Live show Comdian Clash,

(04:16):
the host of crowd Control on Dropout, which has a
believe a new season coming up. It's Jakes.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Oh. I know y'all expected me to sing, but let
me tell you something. I'm not gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
The man's got to rest his Instagram.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
I gotta rest my voice. I got jobs coming up,
so instead I'll just say, what up, niggas? How are
we doing?

Speaker 3 (04:40):
No good?

Speaker 4 (04:41):
I always got to speak to my black people first
and then I bring it to everybody else. Hello, everyone,
how are you? I hope you are very good? Thank you,
thank you. I'm so glad you're here. Thank you so much.
What up, niggas? How are you all?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
There's two conversations.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
There's two conversations. What up Jack? Jack? Obe did I
tell you, did I tell you? I know we got
to bring our very special guests in, but I just
need to tell you I just did something with Cracked.
I had an interview during south By Oh really, and
they did a little promo with me, and I was
just like, man, I know the man who started.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
This launched a thousand interviews with Jaquith. Yes, yes, yes,
so I spoke. I spoke highly of you. Go to
people who didn't know who you were.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Who's out back. Yes, many generations of editors and talent
have come and gone since I started Cracked, but glad
to see them still out there, and apparently their taste
has gotten pretty good. If they're interviewing you, I'll say that,
all right, Jacquise. We're thrilled to be joined in our
third seat by a hilarious comedian, the author of the

(05:53):
New York Times best selling book Gay Science. You probably
know him from his live coverage of the twenty twenty
five papal conclave The Pope Games. If You're anything like
if you're a pope head like myself. He's currently on
tour roasting your favorite media for from the nineties with
his show Are You Afraid of the nineties. Please welcome

(06:14):
Rob Anderson.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
I feel like I should sing too. Hey, queens, I'll
stay out of the gays for a section.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Here you go.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I'll have ample conversations here on many levels. What's up, guys,
Thanks for having me. I love the pods. I'm happy
to be.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Here, very happy to have you, thrilled to have you.
What is your Can you give us a taste of
just like, what's your favorite piece of nineties culture to
kind of deconstruct You don't have to give us any
of your points, but I'm just curious, like, what are
what are some of your most influential pieces of nineties
media that you were raised on?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, I think TGIF was a real big thing for me,
which was if you're not familiar, it's all these shows
occurred on Fridays, like Boy Meets World and Sabrina the
Teenage Witch, and there were crossovers family matters, and they
all kind of showed up in each other's episodes, and
it was an incredible time.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Really, it was the original Marvel Cinematic Universe, you know,
TV Cinematic Universe.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
And that's when we had that's when we had good
theme songs. What oh yeah, whatever, happened to Predictability or
Family Matters. Uh man, I love loved the theme songs
back then.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
And then they kind of like step by Step had
like taken, had taken like the Thieves song from Full
House and like made a version of it, and then
it cut some of them kind of starting to sound
the same, but they were all good.

Speaker 4 (07:44):
They were all saying about the same person too.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, they're all all Even the Family Matters was saying
about the same dude who did Perfect Strangers, Full House,
Family Matters and step by Step that formula. Yeah, you
knew he was doing. He knew what he was doing.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
So for our for this icon version of the show
Rob that we do every Monday Morning where you do
a different, you know, hugely impactful icon, the first episode
was Einstein because I feel like he's just just so iconic,
fashion icon total. But our second episode was Ercle. So

(08:23):
that's the and we wanted to just communicate right off
the bat the span of icons that we were talking about,
and I feel like and Jaquith was the guest host
on that, so, oh my gosh, we know from tgif.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
We know the tgif that's a good one. That was
a good time. We had TGIF and I'll throw I'll
throw another one at you for those of us at
a certain age. We also had Snake, We have Friday,
and we had Saturday night Ickelodeon. The weekend was covered
for us. That's right on television. It was a beautiful time,
beautiful time.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
What a time to be alive. So same with right now,
also what a I'm to be alive. Rob. We're going
to get to know you a little bit better in
a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a
couple of the things we're talking about. We talked about
the attempted assassination at the Correspondence dinner yesterday. We're gonna
now dig into the conspiracy theories that have come flooding

(09:15):
out because they it's like their speed running the JFK
conspiracy process, like just everything immediately was like staged set up,
and then like they're they're just like working their way
through and there's some really like entertaining ones in there.
I will say there's one involvment involving time travel that

(09:36):
I'm kind of into. So we'll talk about those conspiracy theories.
We will talk about the fact that Donald Trump believes
the Iranian oil pipeline will simply explode from within if
the oil stops flowing, the fact that the New York
Mets are blaming Zora, Mom Donnie for losing twelve in

(09:56):
a row. And then we have to get into the
biggest biopic of all time dropped this weekend. That is
the Michael Jackson biography, which we I have not seen.
Jacques has seen. I've seen it. I haven't seen it yet.
Did you see it? Rob Okay? So it's I was

(10:19):
ahead of the time. I was very curious and had
a feeling it wasn't going to do that well because
I'm a genius. But I do just I think it's
a very very interesting cultural, pop cultural phenomenon. So I'm
excited to talk about how massively popular that was all
that plenty more. But first we do like to ask

(10:41):
our guest Rob Anderson, what is something from your search
history that is revealing about who you are.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I don't know how interesting it is, but the most
recent thing was a search for a power Shot three
confetti blaster. Because I am on tour now and I
do everything myself because I am like Virgo, like I'm
very in the weeds, and so I have confetti that
comes out at the edge of the show, and I

(11:11):
need a hard blast, like I need to soak people
in confetti. I don't want this little like poof, And
so I was trying to educate some of the different
venues on like the real good confetti machines that we
need in the good shit.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
So it's a machine. It's not like, because there is
a fun thing that I discovered one New Year's Eve
when I had kids that were too young. Is like
there's a thing that you like pull. I think you
twist it and it like explodes confetti out of it.
But like it's also it uses gunpowder to do, so
it's very loud and terrifying. It's basically a fireword. Love it, yeah,

(11:50):
but I love it. The one you're using is a machine.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Like it's actually, yeah, well, I could do a whole
show on confetti machines. Okay, But there's blasters that do
one big boom and then there's blowers which continuously feed
the audience with confetti. I love to do both. I
love the impact and then the continual hit. I'm telling you,
confetti changes everyone's mood, like it does. I mean not

(12:15):
that they need their mood change during a comedy show,
as if I bombed, but you end with confetti, they
forgot all your errors. They are like, holy crap, that
was amazing. So I really love to fill the whole
room with it.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
That sounds amazing, gunpowder. I want to I want to
know a person who has to. If I knew a
person who had a confetti blaster or a machine, every
comedy show I did would somehow incorporate that, because you
know how comedians, we'd just be like, oh, I know
somebody who got this, Like, oh, I can use it.
I'm not even thought of a confetti in the show

(12:49):
because I don't know anybody who has confetti blaster. But now,
but now, confetti is coming to LA. Y'all is coming
to the LA shows to blast yeall with some confetti
whether you like it or not.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
Row gets hit and it front Row get hit.

Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Does it come from you? Are you like, do you
have a device that you're like pointing out into the crowd.
Is it coming down? I always find it a little
like after a sporting event when the confetti comes down
from the ceiling, like it's cool for a moment, but
then I feel like it's better if like you're blasting

(13:28):
confetti out at people, like a big confetti cumshot.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
You know, it's funny you say that. I was inspired
to do this at the end of my show because
I saw Adele in Vegas and she she's dropping shit
left and right. She's got postcards or like little mementos
that come down in paper, and she and the whole time,
I'm just blown away by things. It's very simple concept
of paper coming at you from the ceiling, and so

(13:55):
I wanted to do that. And I think you have
to be in a really massive venue or one that's
proper built to drop from the sky. So I just
shoot them out at people from the stage, and I
do travel with one that is only two hundred bucks
and it hits people pretty good. But if I'm doing
a big theater, like fifteen hundred people or more, I
rent them out and they hit them hard.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
I love it. Do theater? Do the people who work
at the theater love you?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
They're just like pulling comfetti three months.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
You actually have to pay a clean up fee, so
I pay a grand or more for them to close
it up.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Wow, that's a showman right there.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, well, I don't have a choice. I'll pay it
every time because it's worth it.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Es no choice.

Speaker 4 (14:41):
Yeah, I like that, absolutely perfection.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Speaking of Carrie Fisher towards the end of her life,
and I didn't get to this during the icon episode,
but she did have a habit of bringing glitter wherever
she went and just like glitter bombing people.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
See that's jail, that's jail time. There is a cleanup
fee for that. You will be finding that for years.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I went to a Kesha concert once and I the
amount of glitter everyone was throwing. I swear I was
finding it for weeks.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
It was.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
That's a rough place to be.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, great, great, great use of your iconography. Though it's
like Bill Murray being like no one will ever no
one will ever believe you when he like runs up
and like hug someone, or like.

Speaker 4 (15:28):
He'll take up by their their food. Yeah that's what
you're be doing.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, what is something rob you think is underrated?

Speaker 2 (15:36):
You know? I we give we hate on boomers a lot.
Karen's complaining boomers because they are a wet blanket. But
if you've ever been in a situation where you want
to complain but you don't feel like you can or
you feel like it's going to be awkward. They're great
to have around. Like I was on a flight and

(15:57):
the Wi Fi wasn't working, and I think the screens
weren't working, and I don't bother flight attendants, like I
don't bother them in any way.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
They're very powerful when you're up there, you're in there,
dough man, Yeah, my god.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, when people get in fights with them. I see
clips of people getting in fights. I'm like, why are
you doing that?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
What they're thinking?

Speaker 2 (16:15):
They control your destiny? So I don't say anything. But
it was really annoying that the WiFi wasn't working. But
I had a you know, a complaining boomer right in
front of me. I'm like, oh, she's going to do it.
She's like, excuse me, where's the WiFi? And I'm like,
that's right, thank you, you did it for me. So
a little underrated in that as.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Using the powers of the boom are for good. Yeah,
sometimes sometimes I wish I it's like that, Uh, this
happened to me after a date once, and now me
and this person will text each other every time we
see this meme where it's like the dude who doesn't
like speak up about his order being wrong, but he
knows his girl will like like, excuse me, we acts

(16:56):
for mashed potatoes, and like I don't want to do it,
but I know she got me. Like sometimes you just
need that person who you know they got me because
they saying everything you want to say. But you don't
want to be the bad guy. You don't want to
be the bad guy in that situation. Or and in
that instance, I forgot to order the mashed potato, so
it was my fault, but but I had somebody in

(17:18):
my corner and that softened the blow for you.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Or she's eating it too, and she's like, we want
to be potato.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Fries because I.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Said I wasn't hungry, but I actually am. I'm going
to eat sweet potato fries. Yeah, it's nice. It's nice
to have you. Sometimes you gotta gas them up a
little bit, like yeah, I believe that.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
You know what, you know what, here's the thing about
here's the thing. As I get older and boomers, you know,
get on my nerves too. But as you know, I
got nieces that urgent alpha. Now, uh so like two
generations undermine and I'm starting to be like, man, I
get what. I'm a boomer. I'm a boomer.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
Now?

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Is this how? This is how I look? And I
get it. I get it. I'll be listening to them
talking and I'll be like, what the fuck are y'all
talking about? And then and then and then I called
my I did. I never thought I would say this.
I never thought I would say this. She was on
the phone with her when my oldest niece was thirteen,
was on the phone with her friend and they were

(18:18):
just talking, and I was just like, be nicer to your.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Friends, like I meet them some day, Like be nicer.
Stop being goes out and you don't want to complain'net
that friend someday. Yeah, there's a new season of Beef
that's totally different than the first one. Was a little
disappointed at first. That is totally different. But they have
some great observations about gen Z stuff in there.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
They make them a little bit dumb, like a.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Little too dumb, where you're like, guys, come on, this
is but but there are some great moments where she
they're like complaining about their their boss being aggressive at
work and she's texting her boyfriend her boyfriends like should
I call it please? What is Rob something you think
is overrated.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Okay, this is a little niche, but I have been
kind of digging into designer bags. I find them to
be kind of interesting, the urmez game and whatnot. And
there's a bag that I don't understand why people buy,
called the Goyard bag. If you guys, have you seen
this bag before?

Speaker 1 (19:26):
No, not a bag.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
It up.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
It is about a three thousand dollars bag that has
a history to it or whatever.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
But it is the ugliest bag I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
It looks cheap, it's like a it's got a pattern
on it that looks like a like a background of
like a Windows ninety five computer. And it used to
be I guess, hand painted, but it's still ugly and
now it's just screenprinted on canvas. It's the ugliest bag
I've ever seen. And I can't understand why people buy it,

(19:58):
why they pay three thousand dollars for it. I really
don't understand it. And for me, it's massively overrated as
far as a designer bag.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, I think a secret symbol to other rich people
who care about bags that you're also a rich person
that cares about bags, because nobody else is going to
look at that, And I look at that, and I'm like,
oh that they got that at TJ Max. Like that
is that looks like that looks like a bag you
would get for free. Wow, Like they'd be like, oh,
you need a shopping bag, Like, well, we'll throw this

(20:32):
in at the end. You didn't bring bags to this
expensive grocery store, Well we'll toss this.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
No.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Literally, three thousand dollars is wild, But.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
There's also so many other ways to project that you're
you have money. There's quiet luxury, there's tons of designers
and icons.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
This is so ugly. So like when I wear my
five thousand dollars for a code outside, that's how people
know I got money. Even if it's ninety degree, I'm
still wearing my hert. But I look good in it.
That's all I'm mad. That's all that matters. If you
don't spend the money, you gotta look good in the
money that you spend. It's yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
I just make sure I always make sure that my
blood boy looks healthy and taking care of so they
know I'm getting good blood from my blood boy when
I'm walking around with him on my back. And uh, the.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Most expensive thing you own Rob I own.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
I did buy a Louis Vaton so the movie Darjeeling
Limited they made a bag for that movie, only Louis
Vatan made it. And it's a cool looking bag. It's
like tan, it's got animal print on it. They decided
to actually make the actual bags this year. Pharrell is
the creative director there, and he came out with them
and I've never bought one before, and I went, oh God,
I gotta do it.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
I got to get this bag.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
So the thing is, when you pay a lot of
money for a bag, I baby it too much. I
am afraid to bring.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
It out, you know.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, limited limited shealing it had limited. Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Wow, that's a cool bag. It's got a little's it
got a little uh elephant on there. It's got elephit.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
I think it's got a zebra. Yeah, it's a direct.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
I think it's at least they're having fun with the
fact that it's wildly expensive. So I just saw on
one of our shows on the Big Money Players Network
that I work for, last Culture says had Lena Dunham
on and her overrated was or not overrated her? I

(22:33):
don't think so honey was Quiet Luxury, which is a phrase,
so is quiet luxury, just like having things that are
nice but that don't appear to be that nice. Is
that what that essentially means?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, I think it's the removal of logos. So if
you have that LVY monogram on there, removing that. But
there's certain distinctions of a bag where you'd go, ah,
that is that kind of bag. And I know that
because I have the money to buy one, so do they,
And I think that's what. So it's like not trying
not to be so tacky with things, and more so

(23:10):
if you know, you know, like a sweater from the
Row all the Row is Quiet Luxury, the Olsen Mary
Kate Nashley Olsen, their fashion brand, all of that. There
isn't a logo on anything, and it looks like something
you'd get anywhere. But like, if you know, you know.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Then that's the right.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah. I've be noticing that with like sometimes to this
point where you like, that makes it look tacky. I've
been noticing homiesaid, okay, the sunglasses that just have like
the name of the sunglasses just like a big bowl
letters plastered on like the side, and I'm just like
that makes it look worse, like the design looks cool,

(23:48):
and then you just got Burberry like on the side
of your face. I'm like, man, like, those would look
so much better if we didn't know they were I
don't need the glasses to know. I don't need glasses
to be Birbery to think they look tight and to
think they look expensive.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
But our Birdberry glasses even that, I feel like Birberry
nailed the scarf. And then that's it. Like they they
make bags and famously it was in an episode of
Oh God on.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
HBO Succession Succession Close.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
It was in an episode of Succession where he says
it's an outrageously capricious bag, or just like it's a
capricious bag, and someone because it's such a ridiculous pattern
on a bag. And I think they're kind of making
fun of the luxury logos and whatnot. But I do
find Burberry to be one that's a little capricious.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
Yes, maybe because of the episode, you know, you're right, Yeah,
even the scars, I'm like, man, THEO scars don't even
look good. I'm on me. They sell you. They say
it's timeless, so they're like, oh, it's timeless.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
There's a story some old actress who killed herself war
this once, you know, and then everyone goes, oh my god,
I need I need the story behind the bag or
the scarf. And I find that fascinating. I think it's
all ver camp I just think it's so campy, all
of it. So I've been digging in with the way
people get obsessed over these things.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
The Row. I'm looking at the bags from the Row
because when you type in the row, it's auto completes
a bag. By the way, shout out to Mary Kate
Nashley for being fans of death Row and Death Row
Records and naming their company after it. But they're they're
very quiet. These bags are very quiet. They don't have
anything that would distinguish them. I would look at that

(25:32):
and be like, oh, you have a bowling bag. You know,
so exactly.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
You know, the Elsons was in I knew they were
in fashion, but I didn't know that they were considered
high in or luxury fashion.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Oh yeah, they're really pulling the strings behind every major
world event.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
Should Yeah, yeah, I love them both.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
That's theory. We need to come away from the Thought
podcast with that they were behind the Correspondence Dinner.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
They wouldn't be so sloppy though exactly the oh yeah, yep.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
All right, let's take a quick break and we're going
to come back. We're going to talk about the conspiracy
theories and why the Olsen twins were behind it, but
they wanted it to not actually happen because it's like
sending them out. They they really need that ballroom. They
really need that ballroom. Ate, We'll be right back, and

(26:37):
we're back, and yes, so the White House Correspondence Center
dominated the news over the weekend. We talked to yesterday's
episode about it was fake, about how it was fake. No,
we talked about yesterday's episode like Trump is trying to
turn it into a anti Christian thing somehow, even though
like the only real thing we know about this person

(26:59):
who tried to you know, speed run like get run through.
His plan was just if I run really fast. It
kind of reminds me of like I will sometimes have
this thought where like if I'm on the top of
a tall building, and I'll be like, I bet I
could jump from this building and like land on that
other one over there, you know, just like a little bit,

(27:19):
because I would fall some but I'd be like pushing
my you know like that. It feels like something that
the second you tried to do it, you're like, oh,
this was a very bad idea. He was like, I'm
just gonna like run so fast past them that they're
not going to catch me, and they just were not
ready for him and also immediately caught him.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
There's a trend right now actually with I don't know
if you guys have seen this where people try to
see how far they can get into a scientology building. Yeah,
doing a speed run. Yeah, we talk Oh it's that,
but killing the president.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Right yeah, yeah, it seems like that's he's doing the
TikTok challenge of trying to get past secret Service and
somehow managed to not get shot. So I've dabbled in
JFK conspiracies and ended up coming up with a landing
on the conspiracy theory that the cover up was caused
by incompetence. I've talked about this a lot on the show.

(28:14):
I'm not going to dig into why, but basically it
feels like that's what. Like, the the Internet is speed
running all of the JFK assassination conspiracy theories, and I
think if I was doing every step of it along
with them. I would then come back to land on
incompetence again, like incompetence on both sides. By the way,

(28:36):
like I will say, usually when you read the history
of assassinations there that actually happened, there's a moment where
the assassin gets incredibly lucky. Like JFK rolled right past
the building where Oswald was working with like his top down,
and it was like he was right there. It was
like the perfect spot. Franz Ferdinand is maybe the best example.

(28:59):
Took a Detai tour and his car broke down right
in front of where Gabrielle prince Hip was buying a sandwich.
He had been like trying to assassinate him, had failed,
was like I'm gonna just go eat a sandwich then,
and then they like got a flat tire, like their
car broke down right in front of him as he

(29:20):
was walking out of a sandwich shop. So I think
it's a lot of incompetence and luck and lack of
luck and things like that. But the I mean, one
of the things we got was people hiding, like RFK
Junior just standing up not really knowing that he was
supposed to duck.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
We got Steve.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Seemed to be like ducking behind his pregnant wife they
were exiting. There's a lot of fun pictures, but in
terms of the conspiracy theories that began, they began immediately
the news. As the news was coming in, out staged
was the first thing that was trending on Twitter and
Blue Sky. So one of the things that people were

(30:06):
pointing to that was like, quote unquote mysterious is that
a mystery man held up a car, held up a card,
and then like moments later, a guns started ringing out
like everybody, he was right next to Trump, held up
a card. People looked at him, looked very troubled, and
then shots rang out. That person was mentalist Oz Pearlman,

(30:29):
and the card that he was holding up contained the
name that Caroline Leavitt is planning to name her unborn.
And so the reason everybody was looking at him that
way was because he was doing a magic trick that no,
apparently that's that's what they have it.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
The child child was shooting. Now, ye.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Shooting about to happen.

Speaker 4 (30:52):
But yeah, I'm gonna believe every conspiracy that comes out today.
He first of all, who hires a mentalist for White House?
He was he was a plan. That's a he was
a plan. And I had a mentalist at my U
at my birthday party last year. It was a fun party.

(31:14):
It was a fun party, but at a white house.
Corresponded dinner bullshit, bullshit. He was like shoot shooting now,
like you said.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, It's like, well, it's like hiring a mentalist for
a roast, like it's supposed to be a roast, and
he is like, cannot have that. So he's like, he'll
do some cool tricks and then I'll get up and
talk about how shit the media is. Was like basically
his plan for the evening. I guess, yeah, yeah. Levitt
herself had told reporters early in the evening, uh, there

(31:44):
will be some shots fired tonight. But obviously she was
referring to Trump's roast jokes, or was she Yes, she
definitely was, but you know, poor choice of words.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
I guess in this context, I think she was reminded
the people who forgot, like, hey, just so y'all know
it's gonna be a fake assassination attempt to do, you know,
because there's a lot of old people in that room.
They may have forgot. They was eating a pasta and
they shrimp and and they steak, and she had to
say that, and so he was like, oh, yeah, that's right.
At nine oh two, I was supposed to duck. That's

(32:18):
that's what that was.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
And after that interview she was like, Oh, this is
gonna be clipped. I can't wait for the clips going
to make it rounds.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
That's right. Nice. Yeah, her social media manager told her
to say that just in case something crazy happens. Fox
News correspondent Asa Hasni called into the station, but was
conspicuously cut off after she revealed that Carolyn Levitt's husband
told her, you need to be very safe.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, that was why.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
It was just like all these details, But she later
clarified she wasn't cut off, the service was just bad,
and also claimed that Levitt's husband was merely telling her
to be safe because the world is crazy.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Man. Let me tell you something. So many people on
the phone, and she the only one that her phone
got cut off. Nah, and I know how phone calls sound,
at least a few seconds before they get cut off,
and they know sound as clear and concise as she
founded before. She just got cut off mid sentence, the.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Service agent coming up and being like shish, I.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Love that you're fueling every one of these were.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Kidding, literally counterpointing it. And then at the end, Rob
you will of course explain how all of them were
planned by the Olsen twins.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
They sure were. Yeah, quiet luxury. No, these are questions,
are these are boys? Are bag people? These are not
the rope?

Speaker 6 (33:45):
These are quiet luxury for people. Yeah, yeah, very loud.
The most prominent conspiracy theory seems to be that this
was a false flag operation to justify Trump's stupid ballroom.
Hence why staggering number of right wingers responded the news
by calling for the ballroom to be completed. But I
think I would just say the reason that that's happening

(34:06):
is because the ballroom is a great idea and it
does need to happen. Now, I just think they're all on.
They knew exactly that this is what they know their
dear leader well enough at this point, you know, they
know the head of their cult. They know exactly what
this is going to be turned into, and that everything

(34:26):
for him is about closing a real estate deal. So
that that's where their brain goes because they've been well trained,
would be my guest.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
I do think though, that is interesting. Like, sure, maybe
it's a ballroom because he got up there and said
that stuff and everything like that, but like, that's not
why I think it was staged, and I think that's
not why a lot of people think the initial stage happened.
Sure they want the ballroom, but it also has been
kind of what everything feels like has been over the

(34:57):
past year or so, where press is getting bad, these
crazy things that are going to war and like the
Epstein files, and it seems like a distractions. That's where
the I think that's where a lot of the stage
and and the fakeness comes from. Is like this just
seems like another distraction and another attempt at the sympathy.

(35:19):
And the way it turned, like you know, possibly turned
like some people like, oh they tried like the first
assassination attempt. They're trying to kill him now, see man,
Oh my gosh. Yeah, the liberals are crazy and blah
blah blah blah blah. But also I just think it's
I think if there was a conspiracy, that this is
stage is more to garner some more that what they

(35:43):
feel is goodwill from peoples keep trying to kill this
president and all he's trying to do is keep us
safe and blah blah blah blah blah, and trying to
garner some like support on his side because they're about
to get molly wopped in the midterms.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah, I do. Yeah, I think that they have two things.
I personally don't think that it's intentional, but I do
think that they have two things that are helpful that
are working with one another. One is that they just
turn everything around like they're just any fascist government is

(36:20):
going to take any piece of conflict and like turn
it into an excuse to grab more power. And then
the other thing they have, which is also generally a
part of fascist governments, is called designed in competence, where
they bring people into their organization based on how loyal
they are as opposed to how good they are at
their jobs, and so they are not competent. So they

(36:43):
have like people like Cash Ptel and Pete haig Seth.
But the head of these organizations that have traditionally been
selected at least partially based on meritocracy and now are
just purely based on like whether they please this one
guy and how much he thinks they're going to back them,
And so you just have this increasingly chaotic universe of

(37:05):
like more and more incompetent people running things that have
massive that are like massive and powerful, and then they
are going to use that or at least try to
use every result of that increasingly chaotic you know, the
the entropy that is happening. They're they're going to use
the outcomes to try and like gain more power and

(37:27):
make it more violent and those two things just like
it's like in a feedback loop that's going to keep
feeding itself more and more.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
They aren't.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I think that if they could plan all of this,
we'd know already or we'll know soon, because they're not
quite They're not good and planning things like going off
what you just said, there'd be there'd be an unsecured
signal chat with Pete Pete heggscept somewhere about this, and
we find it pretty soon with a reporter on it,
you know. So yeah, it's it's definitely, uh a chaotic

(38:00):
situation all the time because no one knows what the
hell they're doing, and this is what kind of comes.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Of it do.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
I will say that I brushed off the fact that
everyone was saying this was stage because the internet does
say that about everything, you know, Madonna at Coachella was
a hologram, you know. So I think that when I
got to the end of this and I saw that
people were saying about the pow room, I'm like, oh, maybe, oh,
actually maybe because that that maybe I was feeling a

(38:26):
little bit of yeah, yeah, that it's yeah, that that
does seem like they're small minded enough to be like
let some like at the very least, because one like
my brain goes to, like, wait, so they like found
this guy and like trained him to do something terrible,
and it's just like, no, it would be that they're

(38:46):
kind of aware that this is coming and then let it, let.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
It happen in order to like create a justification for
the building of the ballroom, I guess. But I still
think that that's like a little bit too advanced for
the for who we're looking at. Like if you look
at the video of him running past the security checkpoint,
those guys look like they're playing, like actually playing grab ass.

(39:13):
Like they're just like hey man, like laughing and like
joking as the guy runs by. So there are sometimes
the Internet is just so big that the conspiracy theories
do get really good, and there is one so people
on Twitter found an account belonging to a guy named
Henry Martinez that back in twenty twenty three, posted only

(39:38):
one single tweet, and the tweet is Cole Allen, the
name of the assassin, and the profile picture is Pepe
the Frog wearing a tuxedo which everybody was all wearing
last night at the thing Martinez is. His background picture
is a piece of abstract art seemingly sourced from the
website for time Machine WHI, which I don't know what

(40:01):
that is, but the apparently it's.

Speaker 4 (40:05):
The time machine website.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
Is it? Is it talking about like the internet time
like the wayback machine.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
I think that's what that. I think that's what that is,
isn't it?

Speaker 6 (40:15):
No?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
I don't think so. It doesn't look.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
Because that is like a thing where you can like
go fine, like oh delete it like stuff right.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Time Machine is a unique alliance for the future. Time
Machine Organization is the leading international organization for cooperation and technology,
science and cultural heritage, and the institutional governing framework that
ensures the sustainability and economic independence of the time Machine Project,
which okay, that's that's not that like a time machine
will make sure the time Machine project continues off.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Me trying to get my word count in when I'm
writing a paper.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Exactly the triple space. So people think that this abstract
art also contains a callback to the image of Trump
and butt or Pennsylvania. But the art already existed in
twenty twenty two. So that's where the time travel comes in.
So that this is from a list of like explanations

(41:12):
or for what's going on that has already come out.
Number eleven. We're going to start with number eleven. The
more troubling one that the present is being modified from
the future with messages in the past which are not
very complex clues right there and plain sight that can
be identified once the events happen. That's like a fun
sci fi premise. You know, that's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Yeah, they're having that shows they're having fun with it.
I like that because it's not rooted in anything real
exactly or is it that or is it exactly? I
love the people think that this sloppy thing that just
happened is like Luigi Mangioni writing things on bullet casings,
Like Luigi was the sharpest of any of them, and

(41:56):
you think anyone doing something to sloppy is putting a
cover photo on Twitter that looks like another assassination. Assassination
for twenty twenty three, Like, come on.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Yees, it does go deeper, It does go deeper. Allen
interned at NASA, and A Henry Martinez from Lockheed Martin
supposedly co authored a NASA paper that year, and so
I think it's open and shut. It goes all the

(42:25):
way to the top, all the way to the moon.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
If there's anything that I learned when I saw Adventures
in Game is that time travel is possible. You know,
it's just we've thought, we've been thinking about it weirdly.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yes, pun travers possible, and you use it for stupid reasons.
All right, let's take another quick break and we'll come
back and talk about even stupid or bullshit. We'll be
right back, and we're back speaking of silly conspiracy theories.

(43:03):
So the Mets have lost twelve games in a row.
I do not pay attention to baseball this early in
the season, but this has even crossed out of the
world of baseball into the realm of things that I'm
aware of, that they are having a very bad season.
They every year they enter the season. Mets fans being

(43:24):
like I think we got it this year. Like I
know I've said this in the past, but this and then.
So they snapped the losing streak last week and started
another one this weekend when they were swept by the
also terrible Colorado Rockies, who are currently in last place
in the National League West. So people are suggesting that

(43:46):
the Mets haven't played well since Zora Mom Donnie met
with mister and missus met on April ninth, and right
wing media outlets like The New York Post and Fox
News have been working hard to try and paint the
mayor as some kind of reverse Grimace. I guess because
there there was a thing where Grimouth gave them a

(44:08):
bunch of like they met Grimace, came and visited them,
like the McDonald's. Yeah I met McDonald grimm Yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
I had no idea that Grimmis gave them good luck.
That's Grimis. Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (44:22):
Obviously, Hey, listen, if if if Mondonnie can clean up
like the things that he says he wants to clean
up and like do the things he says he wants
to do while simultaneously making cocky, egotistical New York sports
fans miserable, he is the greatest man alive. He is

(44:43):
the greatest man walking planet.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Absolutely if he did do this, I mean honestly doing
great things for the world.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
He did, he did do this. I think that it's
clearly a curse for sure, But that's on them, Like
don't they know how how romani curses work. Like he
passed that curse to them. They have to like have
you seen the ring or it follows or drag me
to hell? You got to pass that on to somebody else.
And they're not doing that. They're just sitting there not
passing the curse on. That's on them.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
They gotta they got to get somebody else that VHS tape.
They got to sleep with somebody else. They got to
do the things that you do.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Yeah, they need to have mister met have sexual relations
with a different mayor. And that's how there's a competing
theory that the Mets have actually been cursed since last summer,
when the team mistakenly paid tribute to the late Brian

(45:43):
Wilson by playing Cocomo on at a Mets game. They're
like an honor of the passing of Brian Wilson. Here
is why is that?

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Why would that mess them up? Because yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Brian So Brian Wilson and was like the genius of
behind the Beach Boys who made pet sounds and like
good vibrations, and then he kind of he like lost
it a little bit, you know, had mental health issues
and like stopped being involved in the making of Beach
Boys music. And the guy who was like the other

(46:19):
head of the Beach Boys, a guy named Mike Love,
like his whole thing. He was like, pet sound sucks,
Brian Wilson, you need to make more songs about like
babes and surfing, and like that's the only reason that
people like us. And so that was always his theory
and his big hit that he made without Brian Wilson,
the one big Oh I never knew that.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah, And so them playing when it wasn't playing to
honor the guy who was actually like the musical genius
behind some of their best music.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
In theory is what has brought the curse on the Mets.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
I get so.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
So they're really looking at anything like if something going
right with the they are looking at anything that's right.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
They're not above it.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Yeah, creative again, the best work, the best work being
done right now is by Conspiracy theorists, some of our
greatest writers and creators of fiction. All right, And finally,
so we had talked about the upcoming Michael Jackson biopic.

(47:25):
Michael specifically, I'm very curious how this was going to do,
because there is I've always been upfront that like Michael
Jackson is the most massive icon that we have, Like
he is a phase that kids go through, like dinosaurs
and sharks, like kids also go through like a Michael

(47:49):
Jackson face where they're just like this guy fucking rules,
like are you kidding me? And he's also just like
massive around the globe. Like I play tennis with a
German guy the morning before I record the iconograph, and
I talked to him about like each icon that I'm doing,
and he's always He's always. I'm like, do you have
one that you hear? He's like Michael Jackson, Like Jackson

(48:11):
is the number one, He's the best, he's the most famous,
he's the greatest like musician, Like so everybody, like everyone
from all these other countries fucking obsessed with Michael Jackson.
My thoughts were that that force was going up something
against some things that traditionally like don't aren't great for
a biopic. I feel like when usually the best path

(48:34):
is to find the highest caliber actor that you can
make look like the starring question, and this movie went
the root of just like finding someone who looks like
Michael Jackson kind of and like just make the movie.
So I was like, is is that really going to work?
Like the Tupac biography was an example of this, whereas

(48:56):
like you know, the ones that did really well, biopics
that did really well, they just like found an actor
who found them was like found the best actor for
it turns out it does not matter as it like
the fact that the movie kind of ignores the accusations
of sexual abuse didn't matter to people, or maybe like

(49:18):
my sense was that people don't want to know about those,
Like the fans of Michael Jackson don't want to know
about those, and so they want to have those written
out of the story so they can enjoy his music again.
And like that is what this music, what this movie does.
It's like an accusation erasing machine. So like it's from

(49:38):
that perspective. I don't know that it necessarily like the
accusations either helped or hurt, because it feels like this
if you are worried about them. This can just like
kind of takes them out of the out of play
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Here's what I think. Here's what I think. Here's here's what.
I knew the movie was going to be big because
I have Melanin and I knew Black People was about
to show up, and I knew we was about to
show up. I knew it without a shadow of a doubt.
And you know, with the Jaafar thing, Yeah, normally they
probably go with the best actor. But I think the

(50:17):
things that were working for him in that case is
one that he's Michael Jackson's nephew and seeing the movie,
so I think that. I think if you're gonna get
just somebody who kind of looks like him and it's
also related to him, I think that will trump getting
the best actor uh in the role because people are
just gonna be like, oh, we get to see his
nephew beat him, but like let's go and and then

(50:41):
I and then and I saw it. I saw the movie.
First of all, did.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
You get up and dance?

Speaker 4 (50:46):
I was thinking, I was singing. I was singing.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I wasn't dancing.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
I was saying my knees was hurting.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I was like a.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
Concert, which you know, is you know, for the culture.
I love it, And but I did see the movie.
I love it. I'll say that I loved it. Jaffar
Jackson was great, he was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
They're not good. And if it's just like you know,
if it because like having somebody who looks kind of
like them but can't act, it makes it feel like
a daytime or like a uh you know, made for
TV movie. The persons like a great actor.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Yeah, yeah, And we've seen and here's the thing, we've
seen the Michael movie with an actor and I love Flex,
love Flex, but like you know, the the old the
Michael Jackson movie with Flex Alexander was one of the
blights on on cinema that we could possibly get. Oh

(51:43):
my gosh, go just even look at pictures of it
and you will see, like, go look at Flex as
Michael Jackson and you will. You don't even need to
see the movie. You'll already know.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Uh oh no, no, no, no, oh my god, he's
a ghost.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
It's pretty terrible. It's pretty terrible. And it was a
bad movie in every single I want to watch this.
I'm watching this today, watch that.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Cab man in the mirror of the Michael Jackson.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
It was so bad. It was so bad. Everyone flips
his career. No, he was like, you are out of
Hollywood after that.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
You are not forgiving.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
But yeah, but people was ready for People was ready
for this. Jaffar Jackson was great, called everybody. It was
a very well acted movie. And then I'll say this
to the controversies. And this isn't me speaking on what
I think of the controversies or anything like that, but
I will say in the movie, it's been kind of
well known that this is very possibly going to be

(52:45):
a multi part movie, right, And the movie ends in
nineteen eighty eight. It ends at the beginning of the
Bad album, which means that, like we have the thing
that I'm not understanding. We didn't we didn't we didn't
get there yet, like the controversies and shit happened, like
where it was, like the trial and all of that

(53:06):
stuff was like the nineties. And if the movie ends
in eighty eight, of course we didn't get the controversy yet,
because that's likely coming in a second part of a movie.
Like that's how time works, right, And so like I
didn't under I can see if the movie ended in
nineteen ninety eight, and then we didn't and they glossed
over everything. I'd be like, yeah, that's fucking a while.

(53:27):
But if the movie ends in nineteen eighty eight before
that shit started, I don't understand why the justin, I
don't understand why the why the conversation is they didn't
even touch on that stuff. Yeah, bro, like he was
barely white at the end of the movie. Wait, now,
I had read.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
I had read that they actually did have some of
that in the movie, but they had to take it
out because the accident.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
There are a few things like that as well. But
I think what the thing was as well. First of all,
apparently the movie was clocking in four hours or something,
and so they were saying, so that's where the like,
we're gonna split this movie up. And I think the
controversy from what I've also heard from people within the
industry and stuff like that, was that the decision was

(54:14):
made to end it at the Bad Tour because everything
after that was such a different part of his life,
with the pill addiction, with the controversies with like everything that,
like once Michael Jackson became and if that happens, then
I think the jump in the gun of like this
stuff wasn't added, was too early. Now we get a

(54:35):
second part and none of that stuff is in there
by all means like that obviously they glossed over it.
But if it happens, if they get a second part
and they cover all of that stuff, then I think
it's just a matter of like they didn't want to
sit in a three hour movie when they were gonna
split up the two parts of his life. Possibly that's
what I think. Yeah, at least I think so.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
I do think like the third act was so there's
I think the report is that they had a third
act that did address it, and then because the movie
was like so it is the most like authorized biography
of all time, and they came through and were like, yeah, no,

(55:16):
we like legally can't have this. And I don't know
exactly what, like I don't know if it said if
it addressed them and dismissed them, and that's why they
like legally couldn't do that, but they had to like
rewrite and reshoot the third act in its entirety. But yeah,
like I want to see the movie about the making

(55:37):
of this movie, because the rumor has it that like
the Jackson family was so involved that Antoine Fuqua had
to direct the movie from inside of a van. Yeah,
his reps are like, that's actually how he likes to
direct movies. So I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah,
he likes to be in a movie hiding.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, you guys brought up a great point that is
so true that like Michael Jackson is so ingrained in people.
It's it's I think people who criticize the depiction of
him in this way or oh, it's not the full story.
I mean, you don't understand, like, uh, it's like religion
to some people. Like I think of it like he's
so ingrained in people's happiness that they will do anything

(56:21):
to believe that something isn't true and there isn't enough
evidence in some ways that they're able to just kind of,
you know, not think of that. And this movie's for
them and people who are going to come on.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
I think people want to believe.

Speaker 4 (56:35):
It's enormous.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
I mean I think of like how with my mom.
My mom's very religious and trying to explain to her
when like one of her cats dies that the Bible
and the things that are written by men and not God,
and that her animals may not be in the cloud
is gonna She'll never believe that. She has to believe
that all her her cats are in the cloud, and
then one day she's going to go up there, and
I'm not going to try to convince her otherwise. And

(56:57):
I think Michael Jackson is so deeply ingrained and people
that life is tough and the thing that they love
is Michael Jackson and that can't also be a thing
that's terrible. So I get it. You know, I don't
know where I stand. I'm not in that camp, I
think necessarily, but.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I well, all you have to see is that like R.
Kelly's music went the fuck away, Love Jackson music go away,
and there was just certain people who are like, yeah,
but not this one.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
I think that is something to a lot of especially
because like Michael Jackson is very defendant in the black
community and culture, and like, you know, like the thing
like people not taking this away from us is like
the overall like mindset, and I and and and sometimes

(57:48):
it gets on my nerves when people come at like
black people for that, like we as a culture, as
a community, don't know how to erase people from our history.
Like we race Bill Kinds and Bill Cosby was the
non h was a non music version of Michael Jackson.
So like we as a culture know right from wrong.

(58:11):
We don't agree with it like things like that. So
like that annoys me sometimes with with like the the
you know die or the dialogue surrounding surrounding it. But
like like like Rob said, it's just like people know
and then out it's it's the controversy. We can get
into the whole controversies. But I think people just wanted

(58:33):
to see a movie celebrating music and like Michael Jackson's
story that we all know, like there are no spoilers
in this movie, and and there's been every like we're
not going to the movie to see you know, I
do know about that, but I want to see that
one scene where we hear Michael talk about it like

(58:54):
that's not gonna be in the movie, no one, and
no one wants to and nobody like, yeah, that's not
gonna be in the movie, y'all, Like especially because and
you're not going to really learn anything new. So is
and I'm not saying that's why we shouldn't put things
in because if it's a part of history, it's a
part of history. It's just an interesting dialogue that the

(59:18):
critics hated and then some people hate. But I think
you're seeing with a lot of people who are actually
going to see the movie and enjoying themselves and liking
the movie. There was some type of disconnect between the
original like reviews and then the actual on the ground
review so people like this.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
It might be the biggest disconnect ever. Yeah, it was
a huge views. They were like a disaster, total total
l and the movie made two hundred and seventeen million dollars,
Like it beat every single biopic ever, including Oppenheimer, which.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
I mean this is kind of like very similar to
Bohemian Rhapsody in a lot of ways, like we have.
They didn't talk about aids or anything with Freddie Mercury
and they of that stuff right because people, I guess
didn't want to have to see that if they wanted
to enjoy them. People were very connected to it, like
there's a lot of control over it went through multiple directors.
It was a mess on that end, and it did

(01:00:10):
really well. So it's not specific to Mike, just specific
to Michael Jackson. All these things are happening. It's kind
of just like a bio picture situation.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Yeah, you know when when they make the fourteenth biopica
Martin Luther King, I still don't want to have a
scene where he fucking other women. I don't need that.
I don't need unless what if Flex plays him? You
know what I mean? I mean, just give me just
if Flex plays him. I just want the movie where

(01:00:38):
the movie is just about him sleeping with them in
white face and white face. I don't want to hear
nothing about a dream. I don't want to hear nothing
about it. I just want I want affairs.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Well, Rob Anderson, such a pleasure having you. Thank you
for having me. Where can people find you? Follow you
all that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Yeah, I'm on Instagram Heart Throb Anderson, TikTok, I'm heart
Robert and Yeah, I'm right now. I'm on tour, the
tail end of a tour. I'm in Boston and Raleigh
and Australia, and then my comedy special comes out June third,
so about in a month.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
You know right now, I've been into Christian remakes of
popular movies. So they had a they had on the
same day that Fifty Days of Gray came out, they
came out with a Christian version and I watched it.
It was so terrible, and I just love the trying
to adapt something popular with the Christian message. So I'm
right now. I'm also watching Finding Jesus instead of Finding Nemo.

(01:01:44):
Wo yep, they have a one called Finding Jesus and
Finding Jesus too, so I'm into those. They have instead
of high school musical, they have a Sunday school musical
about to watch that one. So I've been really into this.
It's a big thing for me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Oh that's not amazing, Yeah, fine, that's great.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Finding Jesus is very and.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
It's a rough watch. Okay, Finding Jesus is rough. They
basically the animation is they as the fish, have conversations
with each other just loops so like their faces don't
even match what they're saying in their lips. They just
loop them animation and I have to get through it
for the people, though, I have to get through it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:20):
Hilarious.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Jakeith, where can people find you their working media?

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
You've been enjoying, well, you know, you can always find
me in these streets and you can find me on
at Jackie's Neil Jackie'sneil dot com. Wherever you want to
find me, I'll be there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
There is a piece of media that I'm enjoying. This
was on Threads metas Threads and uh from mister metass
from mister Williams pret or Williams spreck, I don't know,
but it was after the stage assassination. But uh, you

(01:03:00):
know there's that video of Erica Kirk like walking through
and she's sobbing and blah blah blah, and then he writes,
stop laughing at Erica Kirk crying. It's a normal human
response to be scared the first time you are negatively
impacted by gun violence. It took me a second to
get it. And then once I got it, I was like, oh,

(01:03:20):
because she wasn't like yeah, it's so fucking funny, so brilliant.
It was great. It was great, so amazing. I love it.
I love all of Erica Kirk content bringing name oh same.

Speaker 1 (01:03:34):
A queen, diva diva, a little performer workimedia. I've been
enjoying Andrew at Intelligent back on November seventeenth, twenty seventeen.
This is an oldie, but a goodie. The ship Bart
Simpson gets away with makes me fucking sick.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
The idea.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
So watching the Simpsons from that point of view.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
I mean that's gotta be a rough watch.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
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bottom you will find the foot note. Foot is where

(01:04:26):
we link off to the information that we talked about
in today's episode. We also link off to a song
that we think you might enjoy, and when Miles is
a way, we do like to ask super producer Justin Connor, Justin,
is there a song that you think the people might enjoy?

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
Yeah, So anyone who is a fan of music from
like the Capcom Fighting game era and stuff like that,
they should enjoy this song because it has a punchy,
nostalgic like chiptune rhythm to it before it drops to
a half speed, big bassy bounce that you can.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Nod your head to. So this is so good by
justice and you can find that in the footnotes footnotes.

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