November 4, 2025 • 25 mins
In this edition of Daylight Trending Time, Jack and Miles discuss the passing of world-class war criminal: Dick Cheney, Trump threatening to defy judges' orders on SNAP benefits, a check-in on Election Day and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Daylight
Trending Time. We would also accept seasonal depressed trend Ah
that one courtesy of Nick Sepper Tyrannis more like Dick
Sepper Tyrannis. Hell yeah, because dick down, Dick down news
the news media has been dick down. Yeah, Dick in
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the box. I've seen that too, Dick in the box.
Dick Cheney is finally dead. Dick Cheney has died eighty four.
Dick Cheney is dyed names Jack that is Miles. This
is an episode where we tell you what's trending, but
really we're just over here pouring one out by one
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I mean piss because he's getting a hearty r I
p b rest in piss Bozo. Yeah, it is much.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's time for the James Worthy smoking a cigar memes
to come out. But it's funny though, too, because it
also looks like like maga freaks are also celebrating this too.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, yeah, because he was and that that was his
redemption according to the mainstream media. They love a fucking narrative, man,
they love a narrative. This guy and then in the
last years of his life he really opposed Donald Trump,
so showing some courage there.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He went from potentially killing up words of four millions
of people to then saying I don't like this Trump guy,
and it erased all of it, all of it magically,
magically restabilized the entire Middle East.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
That means amazing. Before we get into that very sad news,
you just showed me a video of an Irish girl
going to taco bell for the first time. That's my
work of media. Okay, all right, I won't spoil it,
but that is uh, that is something that was trending
on my heart. Uh, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's also like for me as an American, it's like
my very one dimensional idea of like an Irish berdon,
Like she has flowing red hair too, like the Peace
Could the Iris commercial.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's so cy a real accenting her dad to a fight. Well,
I don't know about that. I don't know if we
got that far just in my dreams. All right. So,
Dick Cheney died on Monday at the age of eighty
four due to complications of pneumonia and cardiac and vascular disease.
This motherfucker was a mess, creepy, fucking, leaking trash bag
(02:35):
and cardiac and vascular disease just jumped on. He didn't
get the I think for many years he was surviving
off that mister Burns shit. Like you're onder that Simpsons
episode where they're like, somehow you have every disease known
to man, and they're all keeping themselves in equilibrium, canceling
each other out. But of course our mainstream media is
(02:58):
paying their respects to a literal old monster, and you know,
torture horn Dog launched launched a whole fucking subgenre of
horror movies in my childhood where you know, fucking the
torture porn movies thanks to his saw film illegal Post
nine to eleven military campaigns.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Not to mention the insane expansion of authority for the
executive that happened under his watch too, and just kind
of being truly one of these people who would just
lie to the media and then the media's like okay,
and then you're like, uh, it's it's weird. It kind
of sets us up for now.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, it was, it's weird to be watching the like
the erasure, but yeah, I mean just back to like
the well, we'll get into the estimates. But people believe
he was responsible for, you know, indirectly or directly, the
deaths of as many as four point seven million people,
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just on a apologetic advocate of preemptive war and torture
in the wake of the September eleventh attacks, and widely
regarded as a war criminal who should have faced international prosecution.
The estimates of Iraqi civilian deaths range from hundreds of
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thousands to well over a million, depending on the source.
The war destabilized an entire region, paving the way for
the rise of extremist group like ISIS and contributing to
ongoing cycles of violence and displacement. I do just having
been an adult, like a full less you know, I
(04:42):
guess when they went so I was like in my
early twenties, and I think the first one or the
second one, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry fucking ancient, but
I think it often gets written out like it it's
like he was bad. He was like strong and he
(05:04):
was Yes, he was a brutal murder. He also sucked
shit at his job like.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
This, That's why he was so It's because he was
so bad at it was like to go harder.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
This veil eory going into the invasion was that it
was going to be a cake walk. Like they were
literally like, we're going to go in there, there's not
going to be anyone there. The people who are there,
it's gonna be like the Desert Storm where they just
like sweep in and the people are freed and it's
(05:37):
like basically a military parade through the streets of Iraq.
Like that was their theory of the case going in.
I remember like the coverage of the first day or two,
they were like, Yep, nobody's here. All good, just like
walking deeper and deeper in and instead he fucked an
entire region for generations, like needlessly. They made up a
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fake story sold it to the media. I think in
retrospect everyone assumes the media was like fully on board,
but like there was plenty of reporting. Like, you know,
I was a dumb like early twenties person, but I
was like well aware that this was bullshit, Like there
was enough reporting the you know, they were making up
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stories about webs of mass destruction. They like that there
was absolutely no justification and they just like had this
set like they're even before nine to eleven, people were
like this motherfucker wants to go to war with the Rock. Yeah,
so just so you know, that's number one on his
wish list. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But yeah, the the thing that's interesting to seeing like
all the coverage, it's like just all the uh, just
the lying about who he was or just going for
like the very objectively drue partsy like vocal critic and
former vice president. Okay, right, but maybe in these things
you got to talk about what the most effect, the
thing that they had the biggest impact on the world was,
(07:04):
and that was, like that was the destabilization of the
entire Middle East and all the domino effect of regional
wars that broke out because of this.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
The fumbling killing of millions of people, the fund fumbling
like accidental, but then like fully conscious, like just continually
doubling down on a decision that was very clearly wrong
to everybody, like the moment after moments after it was made,
(07:34):
and like it's it's just frustrated. Like these people who
are like on his side of like the world of
international relations, like call themselves realists right where they're like
we understand that like force is the only thing, and
like by even their own standards, he fucking sucked at
his job. He was terrible. He had like an unrealistic,
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self centered, you know, US centered worldview that was out
of step with the reality of the situation, and so
they got fucked up, like really badly, and millions of
people have suffered the consequence. And I just I can't
emphasize enough how much the world and the US would
run more efficiently and more people would be better off
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if someone like this faced accurate accounting of his career
from inside the mainstream media and just like generally and
then swift and forceful justice from the international community. Like
that is that's how the world should work, not like
as a bloodthirsty thing, as a like this can't go
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down in history as like well you know that some
say and others say, it's like, oh, he said going in,
this is what was going to happen. He was wrong,
and he kept doing that shit over and over until yeah,
Like just to get to the estimates, like there's an
anthropologist and a cost of war director at Brown who
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examines how war destruction like affects people and has estimated
that like the causal pathways from that initial like just
bullheaded decision to start the war and keep the war
going estimated three point six to three point eight million
indirect deaths in the post nine to eleven war zones,
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including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen. The total death
toll of those war zones could be at least four
point five to four point seven million in counting. Some
people were killed in fighting, but far more, and especially children,
have been killed by the reverberating effects of this motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, yeah, I got I don't know, Like every time
this happens, right, it's always like, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Man, he's like such a powerful vice bro. What a
like this person a little controversial, but a little strong
vice president. Yeah. Strong, powerful is like the words that
are being used. And he used that power to take
a shit on the world accidentally he sh his pants,
Like that's what happened. Like he's not He's not powerful
(10:12):
and like calculating and smart. He's powerful and a fuck up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's like when when people how many of these op
eds are going to have some kind of I mean none,
I mean I'm not out of like anything from a
CNN or a CBS or anything like that, but like
the one, like a good one will be Then put
that in the context of America's campaign of militarism, imperialism
abroad and how destructive that's been in the world, and
(10:38):
how maybe we need to look at these things again.
But again, we're not interreckoning with our past. But I
will say this, as the wise Genu and Roomy said
in K Pop Demon Hunters, will never fix it unless
we face it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Thank you. He was Actually that is one of the
cool things about changes a big K pop demon.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
He actually wrote that he wrote free or Came Capo
Demon Hunters from.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
George Bush painted the people who he killed and whose
lives he ruined, and Cheney wrote capop demon Hunter songs.
Did you imagine they would like?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I mean, if people don't know this, he actually wrote
k Pop Demon Hunters.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Also, that might be a maybe we give him a pass.
It was a great musical thing that everyone loves. Now
you know, someone's a piece of shit when accidentally shooting
your friend in the face was like one of the
more likable moments. Yeah right, but like that's the thing
people that is on brand him accidentally shooting his friend
(11:36):
in the face. People were like, wow, this guy like
made a mistake, Like he that's all he did. He
accidentally shot people in the face. For like he got
power by being like, oh, you're looking for a vice president.
Let me take a look for you, ads me. It
turns out and then just turns around. Let me look
around here, just as here I am. Yeah, oh look
(11:58):
at found one turned his hat backwards. It's still me,
still me, I know he yeah, he just a world
class piece of ship.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, and like like you said, it is the thing
of like he is the kind of guy where his
mistakes lead to terrible, terrible things.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Even hunting.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Somehow this guy bumbles into almost killing a guy.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You know, he was out there hunting like where where
like the people hold up frozen birds for him to
shoot at, Like that's probably why why didn't go so well?
Frozen birds? Yeah, they're just like dead already dead birds,
locked out birds. Yeah yeah, just toss them in the air.
Did you get that one? Here he comes again. It's
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coming back around, mister Chaney.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I'm just gonna put it on this chair and might
he just come up right to it and just blast
All right, there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That's my face. All right, let's uh, let's take a
quick break. We'll come back and talk about other shit.
And we're back. We're back, And just an update. We
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had talked about how two federal judges had ruled that
the federal government had to fund SNAP so that people
don't starve to death. Trump said on truth Social that
he's not going to fund the SNAP payments. Yeah, like
literally holding the US population hostage, like children are going
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to go hungry. He doesn't give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
This whole thing is just to make it again, he's
trying so hard to brand this as a Democrat thing,
where he's like, it will ownly, it'll only be refunded. Quote,
it'll be given only when the radical left democrats open
up the government, which they can easily do, and not before.
First of all, you can open it if you really
want to. Again, you can nuke the filibuster and grow
(14:00):
and go ahead and fuck people's healthcare over, because that's
what it's gonna that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
If you that's you go ahead, you can you can.
But again, this is real quick. Have you forgotten about
the Epstein thing? Real quick? No? No, up to them,
the radical left.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a it's a good it's
a two pronged attack on healthcare and also just hiding
the Epstein files. Okay, but and I'm sure he probably
made this threat again because the way that the people
in the White House are looking at is like the
polling is still kind of you could still look at
it and say, well, it's a little bit even even
though more people blame the Republicans, And because of that,
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they're probably like, this is fine, let's hold out, keep going,
keep pushing going, and say that it's the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But the longer that goes on, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Sure that that's going to be the case in terms
of people's perceptions, because they're like, why is the president.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Too hard about it? Yeah, it does seem like the
mainstream media could be put pointing out a little bit
more forcefully that they could end this anytime they wanted to,
with by Newking the filibuster.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But no, no, it's it's not a yeah, it's always
just like, you know, kind of just saying what he
said is sort of the way they report things and
not much more commentary, especially because that.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Might lot I don't want him to be mad at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
It does seem like his overall vibe is not like
the way he wants to be perceived is not is
not quite going through to people. About sixty three percent
of voters now disapprove of his job as president, numerically,
(15:36):
reaching the highest disapproval rating across both of his terms,
according to Cian Impulant, Like the previous I was sixty
two percent after January sixth. Yeah, Like so these less
popular than after January sixth. And people got over January
sixth because they had Biden empower to like, you know,
(15:58):
use his scapegoat. But and they could pretend that maybe
consequences were coming to right. But he's early in his
own term and like as unpopular as the day after
January sixth, and like there's nobody for him to really
rail against or blame for anything because he's in power.
(16:19):
Like I think generally the thing that hasn't worked that
well for him is when he's like whining and winging
about like how unfair everything is, Like that doesn't the
thing people want from him is to be like the
you know, I Loane can fix it and like making
fun of his you know, being a bully, Like that's
what he's there for. And so when he's and also
(16:42):
there's probably like deep down people understand that he was
given ten million dollars like at birth, like they so
for him to ever complain about like how unfair everything is,
like it's just that they want a bully like privileged
businessman who's gonna get shit done and the like I
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remember the messaging around him being like I actually won
the election, nobody's ever treated me more unfairly. Was like
a loser for him, and he had to like get
rid of that. And now you know, it seems like
his his latest thing. People are like, yeah, so you're
in power now. Yeah, and the economy is in bad shape,
(17:24):
which is also the thing that torpedo Biden and his
approval is when he got into power, uh, and was like,
I can't what am I supposed to do? Jack, I'm
just the dang president of the US. Because I mean
they're both right in a certain set. I mean, not Trump,
but like Biden was right that like the forces of
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capital are actually who are making the decision the president,
but he is that, you know what I mean. It's
like it so it's like stupid.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
You're there, you're the gardener. Okay, you're gardening. You're the
constant gardener. The other thing is like with the polling,
it only just makes me think, like if they don't
give a fuck about pulling. That should indicate that they
don't give a fuck about how voting's gonna work either.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
If I'm in that camp and you're as craven as
these White House people are, they're like, well, there's no
way we can have a fucking free election if we're
seeing right now that you're you're putting up January sixth
numbers in your fucking first year.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Canceling SNAP like on election day seems to send a
pretty clear message that like, uh, you know, enjoy your
last free election, assholes.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And you see, like, what the fucking you know, but
this is the thing everyone had. They'll go to their
you know, manufactured media environments, all the MAGA people who
are you know, even on SNAP benefits, they'll be fed
a steady diet no pun intended rhetorically in the media
of stuff like well, it's still the it's still the
immigrants obviously, which is the reason you don't have even
(18:57):
the thing that they're not eligible for, Like they're they
will they will just do what they have to do
and opulate the base and get them to believe one thing.
But I don't know, I mean, when your material conditions
really begin to wobble that intensely.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You know, you'll either wake up to it or you're
just going to go deeper into the fucking hole. Yeah,
and it does seem like a lot of people are,
you know, six and ten say that Trump's policies have
worsened economic conditions in the US. Right. Cost of living
is the biggest issue Americans are currently facing, and that
(19:31):
was one that he was pretty clearly clear he was
going to solve in his first day in office. And
it's yeah, it's actually so easy to solve.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I'm just I'm surprised, as someone who's as emotionally stunted
as him, that he didn't do what he probably does
in his personal life, which is just to buy his effect,
like buy affection from people, like or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think for people that he was just going to
be like Daddy Warbucks, let it come in and just
be like, yeah, let's let it rain. But instead he's
only show own interest in making deals with rich people
and trusting his like billionaire like oligarch friends, and they,
of course are the problem. They're the reason that people
can't afford food in the first place.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I feel like you would have got away with a
lot more if you put money in people's pockets to start,
like if that was his opening gambit, and people like,
well you got that money, and again.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The Democrats Republic tips here, but yeah, there.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I think it also goes to show that all the
people that are actually running the show are the you know,
the Heritage Foundation Project twenty twenty five ilk of the
and they're just like the second we're in there, we're
just Tasmanian deviling the fuck out of the federal government.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah. The people who got him in there are fucking
ghouls whose like policy decisions are like tear down everything
that has been given for free, turn it into like
a free market, free for all, and that just gets
them richer. Yeah. It is election day. Yeah, bomb threats
(21:02):
were called into various polling plays in New Jersey, causing
them to shut down temporarily.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So that's just like twenty twenty four when we had
bomb threats on election data start postpone or you know,
temporarily shut down polling places. But yeah, everything's happening. California.
We got Prop fifty. Make sure you go vote for
that if you have.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
In New York. Obviously it's the zorin race.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
The fucking Cuomo Trump Access, though really flexed its muscle
by just doing overt islamophobia. Trump called this is what
Trump said, quote any Jewish person that votes for us
on Mumdanni approven and self professed.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Jew hater is a stupid person. Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
So he's doing his Biden version of like, you ain't
black if you don't vote for me, but even worse,
you're stupid, Okay, And then fucking what Cuomo backed pack
put out images of like mom Donnie with like nine
eleven in juxtaposed with it very original, very damn Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, did you see the one the like ai ad
where it was like a bunch of criminals being oh, yeah,
you were for Mom Donnie.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah yeah, He's like, yeah, I can't wait for Mom
done to get in.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
One guy was like I'm smoking crack and it was
just like, what the I can't wait so I can
beat up my wife. Yeah, that's what Mom Donnie's got.
That's Mom Donnie's always been pro domestic violence, pro freed.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
He's like, I can smoke, I can smoke my drugs
at a safe injection site.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And I'm like, I think it's for intravenous drugs.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
But oh, okay Ai doesn't look Ai hasn't lived enough
to know about that kind of stuff. Then they but
it wasn't all racism though, because Trump then said Cuomo
has quote a record of success, and that's what I
mean again, goes to show you that there is really
only one party in this country.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's for capitalism.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, because when you have the Democrat, they have the
fucking Maga guy going after what was supposed to his
arch nemesis during the the lockdowns, and Andrew Cuomo being like, yeah,
this guy's got he's a good he's a good egg.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
That one just shows you.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It's like, well, when it comes to actually fighting, you know,
any kind of form of you know, economic equity.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, we're all in this.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
We dropped the act. We dropped the Act real quick.
We dropped it real quick. Oh and then Governor Abbott
said this shit, he said, fucking in Texas, he'said, quote,
after the polls closed tomorrow night, I will impose a
one hundred percent tariff on anyone moving to Texas from
New York City?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Are they being sold? Are people? How do you tariff
a person? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Again, these people aren't smart. They just use buzzwords to
get basic excited.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
So, yeah, the tariff, the New Yorkers have come here.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's like, but I mean, if you're gonna get a
little wonky here, like, aren't they going to bring ad
like tax revenues?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Is the is the theory that like all these people
who are planning on fleeing New York and we're like,
I'm not going to vote for Cuomo, I'm just gonna
leave New York are now going to vote for Cuomo
because he said they can't move to Texas. I have
no idea. I don't even know. I think that's just
him trying to be like, we're sticking.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
We're not gonna muddy this the lone Star state with
a bunch of Empire State riff raff. You guys, remember
the pace pecante fucking ads, the way we reacted when
we heard something was from.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
New York City, and we stand by those ads. Pick
up the pace That's right, all right. Those are some
of the things that are trending on this Tuesday, November fourth.
We're back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself,
get your vaccines, while you still can get your flu shots.
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Daylight
Trending Time. We would also accept seasonal depressed trend Ah
that one courtesy of Nick Sepper Tyrannis more like Dick
Sepper Tyrannis. Hell yeah, because dick down, Dick down news
the news media has been dick down. Yeah, Dick in
(00:24):
the box. I've seen that too, Dick in the box.
Dick Cheney is finally dead. Dick Cheney has died eighty four.
Dick Cheney is dyed names Jack that is Miles. This
is an episode where we tell you what's trending, but
really we're just over here pouring one out by one
(00:46):
I mean piss because he's getting a hearty r I
p b rest in piss Bozo. Yeah, it is much.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's time for the James Worthy smoking a cigar memes
to come out. But it's funny though, too, because it
also looks like like maga freaks are also celebrating this too.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Well, yeah, because he was and that that was his
redemption according to the mainstream media. They love a fucking narrative, man,
they love a narrative. This guy and then in the
last years of his life he really opposed Donald Trump,
so showing some courage there.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He went from potentially killing up words of four millions
of people to then saying I don't like this Trump guy,
and it erased all of it, all of it magically,
magically restabilized the entire Middle East.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
That means amazing. Before we get into that very sad news,
you just showed me a video of an Irish girl
going to taco bell for the first time. That's my
work of media. Okay, all right, I won't spoil it,
but that is uh, that is something that was trending
on my heart. Uh, it's beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's also like for me as an American, it's like
my very one dimensional idea of like an Irish berdon,
Like she has flowing red hair too, like the Peace
Could the Iris commercial.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
It's so cy a real accenting her dad to a fight. Well,
I don't know about that. I don't know if we
got that far just in my dreams. All right. So,
Dick Cheney died on Monday at the age of eighty
four due to complications of pneumonia and cardiac and vascular disease.
This motherfucker was a mess, creepy, fucking, leaking trash bag
(02:35):
and cardiac and vascular disease just jumped on. He didn't
get the I think for many years he was surviving
off that mister Burns shit. Like you're onder that Simpsons
episode where they're like, somehow you have every disease known
to man, and they're all keeping themselves in equilibrium, canceling
each other out. But of course our mainstream media is
(02:58):
paying their respects to a literal old monster, and you know,
torture horn Dog launched launched a whole fucking subgenre of
horror movies in my childhood where you know, fucking the
torture porn movies thanks to his saw film illegal Post
nine to eleven military campaigns.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Not to mention the insane expansion of authority for the
executive that happened under his watch too, and just kind
of being truly one of these people who would just
lie to the media and then the media's like okay,
and then you're like, uh, it's it's weird. It kind
of sets us up for now.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Yeah, it was, it's weird to be watching the like
the erasure, but yeah, I mean just back to like
the well, we'll get into the estimates. But people believe
he was responsible for, you know, indirectly or directly, the
deaths of as many as four point seven million people,
(03:59):
just on a apologetic advocate of preemptive war and torture
in the wake of the September eleventh attacks, and widely
regarded as a war criminal who should have faced international prosecution.
The estimates of Iraqi civilian deaths range from hundreds of
(04:19):
thousands to well over a million, depending on the source.
The war destabilized an entire region, paving the way for
the rise of extremist group like ISIS and contributing to
ongoing cycles of violence and displacement. I do just having
been an adult, like a full less you know, I
(04:42):
guess when they went so I was like in my
early twenties, and I think the first one or the
second one, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, sorry fucking ancient, but
I think it often gets written out like it it's
like he was bad. He was like strong and he
(05:04):
was Yes, he was a brutal murder. He also sucked
shit at his job like.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
This, That's why he was so It's because he was
so bad at it was like to go harder.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
This veil eory going into the invasion was that it
was going to be a cake walk. Like they were
literally like, we're going to go in there, there's not
going to be anyone there. The people who are there,
it's gonna be like the Desert Storm where they just
like sweep in and the people are freed and it's
(05:37):
like basically a military parade through the streets of Iraq.
Like that was their theory of the case going in.
I remember like the coverage of the first day or two,
they were like, Yep, nobody's here. All good, just like
walking deeper and deeper in and instead he fucked an
entire region for generations, like needlessly. They made up a
(06:00):
fake story sold it to the media. I think in
retrospect everyone assumes the media was like fully on board,
but like there was plenty of reporting. Like, you know,
I was a dumb like early twenties person, but I
was like well aware that this was bullshit, Like there
was enough reporting the you know, they were making up
(06:22):
stories about webs of mass destruction. They like that there
was absolutely no justification and they just like had this
set like they're even before nine to eleven, people were
like this motherfucker wants to go to war with the Rock. Yeah,
so just so you know, that's number one on his
wish list. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
But yeah, the the thing that's interesting to seeing like
all the coverage, it's like just all the uh, just
the lying about who he was or just going for
like the very objectively drue partsy like vocal critic and
former vice president. Okay, right, but maybe in these things
you got to talk about what the most effect, the
thing that they had the biggest impact on the world was,
(07:04):
and that was, like that was the destabilization of the
entire Middle East and all the domino effect of regional
wars that broke out because of this.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
The fumbling killing of millions of people, the fund fumbling
like accidental, but then like fully conscious, like just continually
doubling down on a decision that was very clearly wrong
to everybody, like the moment after moments after it was made,
(07:34):
and like it's it's just frustrated. Like these people who
are like on his side of like the world of
international relations, like call themselves realists right where they're like
we understand that like force is the only thing, and
like by even their own standards, he fucking sucked at
his job. He was terrible. He had like an unrealistic,
(07:58):
self centered, you know, US centered worldview that was out
of step with the reality of the situation, and so
they got fucked up, like really badly, and millions of
people have suffered the consequence. And I just I can't
emphasize enough how much the world and the US would
run more efficiently and more people would be better off
(08:22):
if someone like this faced accurate accounting of his career
from inside the mainstream media and just like generally and
then swift and forceful justice from the international community. Like
that is that's how the world should work, not like
as a bloodthirsty thing, as a like this can't go
(08:44):
down in history as like well you know that some
say and others say, it's like, oh, he said going in,
this is what was going to happen. He was wrong,
and he kept doing that shit over and over until yeah,
Like just to get to the estimates, like there's an
anthropologist and a cost of war director at Brown who
(09:06):
examines how war destruction like affects people and has estimated
that like the causal pathways from that initial like just
bullheaded decision to start the war and keep the war
going estimated three point six to three point eight million
indirect deaths in the post nine to eleven war zones,
(09:27):
including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen. The total death
toll of those war zones could be at least four
point five to four point seven million in counting. Some
people were killed in fighting, but far more, and especially children,
have been killed by the reverberating effects of this motherfucker.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, yeah, I got I don't know, Like every time
this happens, right, it's always like, oh.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Man, he's like such a powerful vice bro. What a
like this person a little controversial, but a little strong
vice president. Yeah. Strong, powerful is like the words that
are being used. And he used that power to take
a shit on the world accidentally he sh his pants,
Like that's what happened. Like he's not He's not powerful
(10:12):
and like calculating and smart. He's powerful and a fuck up. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's like when when people how many of these op
eds are going to have some kind of I mean none,
I mean I'm not out of like anything from a
CNN or a CBS or anything like that, but like
the one, like a good one will be Then put
that in the context of America's campaign of militarism, imperialism
abroad and how destructive that's been in the world, and
(10:38):
how maybe we need to look at these things again.
But again, we're not interreckoning with our past. But I
will say this, as the wise Genu and Roomy said
in K Pop Demon Hunters, will never fix it unless
we face it.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Thank you. He was Actually that is one of the
cool things about changes a big K pop demon.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
He actually wrote that he wrote free or Came Capo
Demon Hunters from.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
George Bush painted the people who he killed and whose
lives he ruined, and Cheney wrote capop demon Hunter songs.
Did you imagine they would like?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I mean, if people don't know this, he actually wrote
k Pop Demon Hunters.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
Also, that might be a maybe we give him a pass.
It was a great musical thing that everyone loves. Now
you know, someone's a piece of shit when accidentally shooting
your friend in the face was like one of the
more likable moments. Yeah right, but like that's the thing
people that is on brand him accidentally shooting his friend
(11:36):
in the face. People were like, wow, this guy like
made a mistake, Like he that's all he did. He
accidentally shot people in the face. For like he got
power by being like, oh, you're looking for a vice president.
Let me take a look for you, ads me. It
turns out and then just turns around. Let me look
around here, just as here I am. Yeah, oh look
(11:58):
at found one turned his hat backwards. It's still me,
still me, I know he yeah, he just a world
class piece of ship.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, and like like you said, it is the thing
of like he is the kind of guy where his
mistakes lead to terrible, terrible things.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Even hunting.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Somehow this guy bumbles into almost killing a guy.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
You know, he was out there hunting like where where
like the people hold up frozen birds for him to
shoot at, Like that's probably why why didn't go so well?
Frozen birds? Yeah, they're just like dead already dead birds,
locked out birds. Yeah yeah, just toss them in the air.
Did you get that one? Here he comes again. It's
(12:46):
coming back around, mister Chaney.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I'm just gonna put it on this chair and might
he just come up right to it and just blast
All right, there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That's my face. All right, let's uh, let's take a
quick break. We'll come back and talk about other shit.
And we're back. We're back, And just an update. We
(13:16):
had talked about how two federal judges had ruled that
the federal government had to fund SNAP so that people
don't starve to death. Trump said on truth Social that
he's not going to fund the SNAP payments. Yeah, like
literally holding the US population hostage, like children are going
(13:36):
to go hungry. He doesn't give a fuck.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
This whole thing is just to make it again, he's
trying so hard to brand this as a Democrat thing,
where he's like, it will ownly, it'll only be refunded. Quote,
it'll be given only when the radical left democrats open
up the government, which they can easily do, and not before.
First of all, you can open it if you really
want to. Again, you can nuke the filibuster and grow
(14:00):
and go ahead and fuck people's healthcare over, because that's
what it's gonna that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
If you that's you go ahead, you can you can.
But again, this is real quick. Have you forgotten about
the Epstein thing? Real quick? No? No, up to them,
the radical left.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a it's a good it's
a two pronged attack on healthcare and also just hiding
the Epstein files. Okay, but and I'm sure he probably
made this threat again because the way that the people
in the White House are looking at is like the
polling is still kind of you could still look at
it and say, well, it's a little bit even even
though more people blame the Republicans, And because of that,
(14:40):
they're probably like, this is fine, let's hold out, keep going,
keep pushing going, and say that it's the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
But the longer that goes on, I'm not.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Sure that that's going to be the case in terms
of people's perceptions, because they're like, why is the president.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Too hard about it? Yeah, it does seem like the
mainstream media could be put pointing out a little bit
more forcefully that they could end this anytime they wanted to,
with by Newking the filibuster.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But no, no, it's it's not a yeah, it's always
just like, you know, kind of just saying what he
said is sort of the way they report things and
not much more commentary, especially because that.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Might lot I don't want him to be mad at me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
It does seem like his overall vibe is not like
the way he wants to be perceived is not is
not quite going through to people. About sixty three percent
of voters now disapprove of his job as president, numerically,
(15:36):
reaching the highest disapproval rating across both of his terms,
according to Cian Impulant, Like the previous I was sixty
two percent after January sixth. Yeah, Like so these less
popular than after January sixth. And people got over January
sixth because they had Biden empower to like, you know,
(15:58):
use his scapegoat. But and they could pretend that maybe
consequences were coming to right. But he's early in his
own term and like as unpopular as the day after
January sixth, and like there's nobody for him to really
rail against or blame for anything because he's in power.
(16:19):
Like I think generally the thing that hasn't worked that
well for him is when he's like whining and winging
about like how unfair everything is, Like that doesn't the
thing people want from him is to be like the
you know, I Loane can fix it and like making
fun of his you know, being a bully, Like that's
what he's there for. And so when he's and also
(16:42):
there's probably like deep down people understand that he was
given ten million dollars like at birth, like they so
for him to ever complain about like how unfair everything is,
like it's just that they want a bully like privileged
businessman who's gonna get shit done and the like I
(17:03):
remember the messaging around him being like I actually won
the election, nobody's ever treated me more unfairly. Was like
a loser for him, and he had to like get
rid of that. And now you know, it seems like
his his latest thing. People are like, yeah, so you're
in power now. Yeah, and the economy is in bad shape,
(17:24):
which is also the thing that torpedo Biden and his
approval is when he got into power, uh, and was like,
I can't what am I supposed to do? Jack, I'm
just the dang president of the US. Because I mean
they're both right in a certain set. I mean, not Trump,
but like Biden was right that like the forces of
(17:46):
capital are actually who are making the decision the president,
but he is that, you know what I mean. It's
like it so it's like stupid.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
You're there, you're the gardener. Okay, you're gardening. You're the
constant gardener. The other thing is like with the polling,
it only just makes me think, like if they don't
give a fuck about pulling. That should indicate that they
don't give a fuck about how voting's gonna work either.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
If I'm in that camp and you're as craven as
these White House people are, they're like, well, there's no
way we can have a fucking free election if we're
seeing right now that you're you're putting up January sixth
numbers in your fucking first year.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Canceling SNAP like on election day seems to send a
pretty clear message that like, uh, you know, enjoy your
last free election, assholes.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
And you see, like, what the fucking you know, but
this is the thing everyone had. They'll go to their
you know, manufactured media environments, all the MAGA people who
are you know, even on SNAP benefits, they'll be fed
a steady diet no pun intended rhetorically in the media
of stuff like well, it's still the it's still the
immigrants obviously, which is the reason you don't have even
(18:57):
the thing that they're not eligible for, Like they're they
will they will just do what they have to do
and opulate the base and get them to believe one thing.
But I don't know, I mean, when your material conditions
really begin to wobble that intensely.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You know, you'll either wake up to it or you're
just going to go deeper into the fucking hole. Yeah,
and it does seem like a lot of people are,
you know, six and ten say that Trump's policies have
worsened economic conditions in the US. Right. Cost of living
is the biggest issue Americans are currently facing, and that
(19:31):
was one that he was pretty clearly clear he was
going to solve in his first day in office. And
it's yeah, it's actually so easy to solve.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I'm just I'm surprised, as someone who's as emotionally stunted
as him, that he didn't do what he probably does
in his personal life, which is just to buy his effect,
like buy affection from people, like or whatever.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
I think for people that he was just going to
be like Daddy Warbucks, let it come in and just
be like, yeah, let's let it rain. But instead he's
only show own interest in making deals with rich people
and trusting his like billionaire like oligarch friends, and they,
of course are the problem. They're the reason that people
can't afford food in the first place.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I feel like you would have got away with a
lot more if you put money in people's pockets to start,
like if that was his opening gambit, and people like,
well you got that money, and again.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
The Democrats Republic tips here, but yeah, there.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I think it also goes to show that all the
people that are actually running the show are the you know,
the Heritage Foundation Project twenty twenty five ilk of the
and they're just like the second we're in there, we're
just Tasmanian deviling the fuck out of the federal government.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah. The people who got him in there are fucking
ghouls whose like policy decisions are like tear down everything
that has been given for free, turn it into like
a free market, free for all, and that just gets
them richer. Yeah. It is election day. Yeah, bomb threats
(21:02):
were called into various polling plays in New Jersey, causing
them to shut down temporarily.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So that's just like twenty twenty four when we had
bomb threats on election data start postpone or you know,
temporarily shut down polling places. But yeah, everything's happening. California.
We got Prop fifty. Make sure you go vote for
that if you have.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
In New York. Obviously it's the zorin race.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
The fucking Cuomo Trump Access, though really flexed its muscle
by just doing overt islamophobia. Trump called this is what
Trump said, quote any Jewish person that votes for us
on Mumdanni approven and self professed.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Jew hater is a stupid person. Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
So he's doing his Biden version of like, you ain't
black if you don't vote for me, but even worse,
you're stupid, Okay, And then fucking what Cuomo backed pack
put out images of like mom Donnie with like nine
eleven in juxtaposed with it very original, very damn Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, did you see the one the like ai ad
where it was like a bunch of criminals being oh, yeah,
you were for Mom Donnie.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Yeah yeah, He's like, yeah, I can't wait for Mom
done to get in.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
One guy was like I'm smoking crack and it was
just like, what the I can't wait so I can
beat up my wife. Yeah, that's what Mom Donnie's got.
That's Mom Donnie's always been pro domestic violence, pro freed.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
He's like, I can smoke, I can smoke my drugs
at a safe injection site.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
And I'm like, I think it's for intravenous drugs.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
But oh, okay Ai doesn't look Ai hasn't lived enough
to know about that kind of stuff. Then they but
it wasn't all racism though, because Trump then said Cuomo
has quote a record of success, and that's what I
mean again, goes to show you that there is really
only one party in this country.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
It's for capitalism.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, because when you have the Democrat, they have the
fucking Maga guy going after what was supposed to his
arch nemesis during the the lockdowns, and Andrew Cuomo being like, yeah,
this guy's got he's a good he's a good egg.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
That one just shows you.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
It's like, well, when it comes to actually fighting, you know,
any kind of form of you know, economic equity.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, we're all in this.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
We dropped the act. We dropped the Act real quick.
We dropped it real quick. Oh and then Governor Abbott
said this shit, he said, fucking in Texas, he'said, quote,
after the polls closed tomorrow night, I will impose a
one hundred percent tariff on anyone moving to Texas from
New York City?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Are they being sold? Are people? How do you tariff
a person? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Again, these people aren't smart. They just use buzzwords to
get basic excited.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
So, yeah, the tariff, the New Yorkers have come here.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's like, but I mean, if you're gonna get a
little wonky here, like, aren't they going to bring ad
like tax revenues?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Is the is the theory that like all these people
who are planning on fleeing New York and we're like,
I'm not going to vote for Cuomo, I'm just gonna
leave New York are now going to vote for Cuomo
because he said they can't move to Texas. I have
no idea. I don't even know. I think that's just
him trying to be like, we're sticking.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
We're not gonna muddy this the lone Star state with
a bunch of Empire State riff raff. You guys, remember
the pace pecante fucking ads, the way we reacted when
we heard something was from.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
New York City, and we stand by those ads. Pick
up the pace That's right, all right. Those are some
of the things that are trending on this Tuesday, November fourth.
We're back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself,
get your vaccines, while you still can get your flu shots.
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